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Mr. Ron
05-17-2008, 12:11 AM
Ok, just wondering.

BassRevelation1029
05-17-2008, 12:29 AM
why was vf banned? did i miss something?

Amit
05-17-2008, 11:09 AM
i think the expiration date on this amusement carton is up:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16343964&postcount=196

BridgeToSolace
05-17-2008, 11:21 AM
If you don't feed the troll, the troll does not continue to troll.

And you're clearly goading the idiot.

So stop :)

guitrguy
05-17-2008, 11:33 AM
why was vf banned? did i miss something?

he spammed the RM report thread. It wasn't from here.

RockStar
05-17-2008, 11:38 AM
If you don't feed the troll, the troll does not continue to troll.

And you're clearly goading the idiot.

So stop :)

You hit the nail on the head. I stir keyboard warriors. :chug:

guitrguy
05-17-2008, 11:40 AM
You hit the nail on the head. I stir keyboard warriors. :chug:

Well you can take that somewhere else.

BridgeToSolace
05-17-2008, 04:11 PM
You hit the nail on the head. I stir keyboard warriors. :chug:

Being fed isn't justification for trolling.

You are not justified here.

Iscariot
05-17-2008, 06:57 PM
isn't it possible to ban a user from an individual forum without banning their account from the entire site

i remember this was being talked about a couple of years ago but i don't know if it was actually being used

if this can be done why not just ban rockfag from the politics forum and let him do whatever he wants in the lesser forums where his lack of intelligence and social skills are more accepted

Smokey D
05-17-2008, 07:04 PM
I don't think that's possible.

BassRevelation1029
05-17-2008, 11:01 PM
Please ban VF that guy's just annoying.

Volumnius Flush
05-17-2008, 11:13 PM
Please ban VF that guy's just annoying.

What did I do to you? I am posting serious discussion only, and what is it to you anyway?

I haven't done anything but try to contribute into Der's black education thread. I had one post that was almost two pages long. And you think I was just joking?

BridgeToSolace
05-17-2008, 11:19 PM
He didn't say you were joking, he said you were annoying.

Volumnius Flush
05-17-2008, 11:26 PM
He didn't say you were joking, he said you were annoying.

He implied I was joking. That's been everyone's main argument for 3 years now that I am a gimmick and a troll who only comes here for laughs. I don't come here for laughs, I come here to socialize with other musicians my age, but instead everyone has been ruining my attempts for three years now.

Every time I come back from another 6 mos or year ban I have to deal with the same whining, bitching, and moaning. And I'm sick of it. I've done nothing to anybody here except mind my own business and say what I have to say.

I didn't do anything to deserve this call for my ban. I was just posting my opinions and beliefs.

BassRevelation1029
05-17-2008, 11:40 PM
no, I stated you were annoying. No implication necessary.

its obviously not a serious plea. I'd rather have Steve banned before you except steve is actually entertaining.

Volumnius Flush
05-17-2008, 11:45 PM
no, I stated you were annoying. No implication necessary.

its obviously not a serious plea. I'd rather have Steve banned before you except steve is actually entertaining.

Then you're a spammer due to the fact you posted in the most serious thread in the whole PNWI calling for my ban when you weren't even serious knowing full well that mods actually listen to the people occasionally and might just oblige your request.

BassRevelation1029
05-18-2008, 12:11 AM
Technically you're a spammer for replying to me.

Volumnius Flush
05-18-2008, 12:12 AM
Technically you're a spammer for replying to me.

Technically I was making a suggestion, which is what this thread is for.

I was suggesting that I should not be banned because if I were it would be without just cause.

Smokey D
05-18-2008, 12:13 AM
Nobody gets banned unless I actually read the thread and think it's ban worthy.

Volumnius Flush
05-18-2008, 12:19 AM
Nobody gets banned unless I actually read the thread and think it's ban worthy.

Thank you Smokey. Nice to see that we finally have some impartial mods around here. Because we sure didn't a year ago. I can't even remember who it was that banned me.

Der Übermensch
05-18-2008, 12:28 AM
I'm pretty sure Smokey was the only real PNWI mod back then too :p

BridgeToSolace
05-18-2008, 01:40 AM
The only reason I could see to ban VF is that every single thread he posts in invariable becomes about him rather than the issue at hand.

It's not entirely his fault, but again both the feeder and the troll are guilty.

Volumnius Flush
05-18-2008, 01:42 AM
The only reason I could see to ban VF is that every single thread he posts in invariable becomes about him rather than the issue at hand.

It's not entirely his fault, but again both the feeder and the troll are guilty.

I think it's my personality. Maybe it's overpowering or something.

Aaron
05-18-2008, 01:43 AM
I appologise for having a go at VF. I admit it's got out of control and will stop. Ignore-list go!

Smokey D
05-18-2008, 01:43 AM
I'm pretty sure Smokey was the only real PNWI mod back then too :p

He was banned by someone else though. My bans are never epically long.

BridgeToSolace
05-19-2008, 11:21 PM
Are the posts in the Debate thread ever open for discussion beyond the two not formally involved in the debate?

ie. a separate "Comments on debate" thread or something.

I wasn't around when we used to do these, so I'm not sure.

guitrguy
05-19-2008, 11:23 PM
I think the voting thread will be the one for discussion.

Speaking of which I'll post my final post tomorrow, I am feeling a bit lazy atm.

BridgeToSolace
05-19-2008, 11:24 PM
There's a voting thread? Sorry, I'm not familiar with the operations.

I just saw the "Pick a topic and debaters!" thing.

guitrguy
05-19-2008, 11:25 PM
Once I get my final post done, the debate is over. Then you guys vote to see who the winner was.

Volumnius Flush
05-19-2008, 11:46 PM
He was banned by someone else though. My bans are never epically long.

I think now it was SubtleDagger.

dei
05-20-2008, 12:24 AM
VF called me a large bundle of sticks.

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 12:25 AM
Dei insinuated that I should be killed.

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 01:24 AM
at times i would be inclined to agree

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 01:26 AM
at times i would be inclined to agree

That I should be killed?

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 01:26 AM
well i certainly am not agreeing that dei should be banned

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 01:30 AM
well i certainly am not agreeing that dei should be banned

Dei doesn't know how to take a joke. And I am not calling for his ban. I never call on people's bans unless they're purposely and intentionally spamming.

I resent the fact that you think I should be killed. But if you think you're man enough come get you some. I live in Texas.

Amit
05-20-2008, 01:32 AM
having to live in texas is punishment enough though

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 01:43 AM
Dei doesn't know how to take a joke. And I am not calling for his ban. I never call on people's bans unless they're purposely and intentionally spamming.

I resent the fact that you think I should be killed. But if you think you're man enough come get you some. I live in Texas.

you probably shouldn't invite an unstable schizophrenic man with military training to come kill you just saying i might decide it sounds like fun and pay you a visit

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 01:48 AM
you probably shouldn't invite an unstable schizophrenic man with military training to come kill you just saying i might decide it sounds like fun and pay you a visit

Well I am unstable and (supposedly) schizophrenic too so I guess we're almost equal.

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 01:50 AM
you're nowhere near my equal you should probably stop provoking me

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 01:55 AM
you're nowhere near my equal you should probably stop provoking me

Ooh I am so scared big bad Iscariot is going to come kill me over a post I made on MX! Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo! I am so scared. :(

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:01 AM
um it wouldn't be a far stretch for me i'm just giving you a heads up if you really want me to come kill you i'll gladly do so just so no one is encumbered by your moronic posts ever again i would consider it a service to the modern world who knows i'd probably even get a medal

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:04 AM
Smokey I would like to report this idiot above me who is making repeated threats against my life.

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:05 AM
you invited them and you also invited me to come kill you with the false impression that i won't actually do it

if you don't like having negative action taken against you then don't open your mouth and ask for it

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:06 AM
you invited them and you also invited me to come kill you with the false impression that i won't actually do it

if you don't like having negative action taken against you then don't open your mouth and ask for it

It doesn't excuse your inexcusable and while we're at it illegal threats you have made so far. Give me one reason I shouldn't go to the police right now.

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:09 AM
go ahead and call the police

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:14 AM
go ahead and call the police

I'm not going to call the police. You're full of **** and you know you;d get severely injured. Texas doesn't play around with puny threats. People down here will just shoot your ***.

Dr Hooch
05-20-2008, 02:16 AM
It doesn't excuse your inexcusable and while we're at it illegal threats you have made so far. Give me one reason I shouldn't go to the police right now.

Because you live in america and as a war vet jman is constitutionally incapable of wrong

Well I am unstable and (supposedly) schizophrenic too so I guess we're almost equal.

Look man i don't always agree with what he says but dude

seriously

he was definately in the army

and he was definately discharged for psychological reasons and uh

"JUST A THOUGHT"

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:17 AM
yeah uh gee i'm really scared of all you cattle ****ers down in texas

see the funny thing about everyone having a gun is that it makes it that much easier to obtain one within a few hours of stepping off the plane :)

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:20 AM
yeah uh gee i'm really scared of all you cattle ****ers down in texas

see the funny thing about everyone having a gun is that it makes it that much easier to obtain one within a few hours of stepping off the plane :)

Look if you're looking for trouble, you'll find it in Texas. Trust me dude, you don't want to mess with me.

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:20 AM
you do realize that all you're doing right now is tempting me more and more to follow through with this right

do you really want to die i mean i know you're stupid but are you really that stupid

Dr Hooch
05-20-2008, 02:23 AM
On a more relevant note

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16347216&postcount=18

This is banworthy, surely?

Some of the stuff he's spewing is getting absolutely disgusting.

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:23 AM
you do realize that all you're doing right now is tempting me more and more to follow through with this right

do you really want to die i mean i know you're stupid but are you really that stupid

Is that you in the avatar? You look pretty mean...

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:27 AM
Is that you in the avatar? You look pretty mean...

you'll know soon enough what i look like because i will be the last thing you see :)

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:31 AM
you'll know soon enough what i look like because i will be the last thing you see :)

You realize you will probably be banned for this? It is a shame, such a bad *** individual who kicks so much *** has nothing better to do than post 30000 times and shoot the breeze with 15 and 16 year olds. You must be really dangerous. You talk to teenagers everyday. What are you a pedo?

Dr Hooch
05-20-2008, 02:31 AM
You don't have to kill him.

Just pay him a visit. Look extremely menacing. Then offer to buy him a beer, and make it the least comfortable beer he's ever drunk.

He'll learn.

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:34 AM
You realize you will probably be banned for this? It is a shame, such a bad *** individual who kicks so much *** has nothing better to do than post 30000 times and shoot the breeze with 15 and 16 year olds. You must be really dangerous. You talk to teenagers everyday. What are you a pedo?

careful you might scare me with all of your tough defensive talk

You don't have to kill him.

Just pay him a visit. Look extremely menacing. Then offer to buy him a beer, and make it the least comfortable beer he's ever drunk.

He'll learn.

even if i did follow through with the idea i certainly would make sure he knew what a mistake he was making before i was done

i've always wanted to torture another human being

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:36 AM
careful you might scare me with all of your tough defensive talk



even if i did follow through with the idea i certainly would make sure he knew what a mistake he was making before i was done

i've always wanted to torture another human being

I would highly recommend staying in Portland :)

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:37 AM
why are you scared

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:39 AM
why are you scared

I am shaking in my boots. I am terrified! No really, I am terrified. I get the picture. You are one tough individual who doesn't need to be messed with. I see what you're saying. Just stay up there in Portland and everything will be fine.

Iscariot
05-20-2008, 02:41 AM
lol how funny first you invite me to come kill you and now you're practically begging me to stay in portland i'm leaning pretty heavily towards fulfilling your initial request tbqh

Volumnius Flush
05-20-2008, 02:46 AM
Thanks Wish!

J Rad
05-20-2008, 02:49 AM
i was only banned for one day what are you thanking him for

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 08:01 AM
On a more relevant note

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16347216&postcount=18

This is banworthy, surely?

Some of the stuff he's spewing is getting absolutely disgusting.

Oh come on, don't be a little girl. :rolleyes: People call me a racist, a bigot and etc. all the time on here and I don't whine, even though they're inflammatory and slanderous allegations. So if this isn't lifted then I'm leaving the site for good. Idiot whining annoys me.

Smokey D
05-20-2008, 08:08 AM
Oh Steve, don't threaten.

You flat out called him a Nazi, disparaged his ancestors and said he longed to kill Jews. That's far more virulent, and frankly unjustified on anything Jude has ever said, than what is sometimes said about you. Only ThaEnd ever said anything remotely similar about you.

I wouldn't have banned you, but I can see why Wish did. If you want to leave because someone called you out on being an idiot, go ahead. I don't want you to go. I like you and the conversation you generate. But I'm not going to lift the ban. You've got an alt to use if you wish. No one's stopping that.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 08:14 AM
I'm sorry but there's really no difference in saying someone is a Nazi and that someone is a bigot, or 'hates gays' or anything else. Heck it's no different than Amit's trolling of Ringworm. You didn't see Ringworm complaining on here.

I'm not going to keep on posting somewhere where users insist on running to mods every time I say something they don't like. If I'd said about Palestinians what Jude said about Israel, people would've complained on here anyway. Or at the very least hurled a bunch more ridiculous slurs.

"The Palestinian state is incompatable with peace"
"I wouldn't blame Israel for setting out to murder innocent Palestinians"

Smokey D
05-20-2008, 08:22 AM
A) If you got banned as many times people have requested it, you'd have been perm'd a long time ago.

B) People hardly ever run to the mods regarding your statements. Most of the time they just laugh you off.

C) I hardly ever ban people even when people have requested it anyway.

D) There is a difference between calling someone a Nazi or even a Nazi sympathiser and saying that they fantasize about killing Jews. Your statement was clearly not meant in jest, not even in part. It's one of the most vitriolic things I've seen directed at a fellow user in a long time. What you said about the Palestinians wasn't at issue. It was the fact that you directly attacked him.

E) I'm not going to undermine other mods' authority due to your threats. You made a bad call. Deal without your main for 4 days.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 08:27 AM
oh I don't want you to unban me, I hated it when mods undermined other mods' authority back when I was a mod. I'm not even E-peeved at the mod (Wish?) who banned me, who was an outsider looking in (which btw is never a good modding style; it'd be like you going in to the jazz forum and modding).

But this is kinda the point: because I have different views than a lot of other people, people look for reasons to ban me. I don't complain about all the "Jew fetish" stuff. I didn't complain when Jude claimed that I like to see 'Israel kill innocent civilians', and the other crap that gets said.

Smokey D
05-20-2008, 08:31 AM
Neither did he, to be fair.

And neither you nor he were banned for the substance of your comments. You were banned for blatant trolling and being offensive.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 08:39 AM
yeah well then I'll just whine and complain everyone trolls or is offensive to me.

PS my comment was clearly in jest, I can't fathom why anyone would assume otherwise.

Smokey D
05-20-2008, 08:42 AM
Then you misjudged.

Haxor and Jude were banned similarly.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 08:44 AM
If I'm not mistaken, Jude was making repeated racist "jokes".

Smokey D
05-20-2008, 08:46 AM
And he was banned for it.

guitrguy
05-20-2008, 08:46 AM
I do believe Jude got banned for saying coon not to long ago.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 08:56 AM
And he was banned for it.

...Repeated racist remarks vs one non-serious trolling post in the midst of other similar remarks coming from the opposite side...

Smokey D
05-20-2008, 08:58 AM
If Wish wants to unban you that's his prerogative. I'm not going to do it for him.

You both said stupid things and you both were punished. I'm not persuaded by your arguments. Let it rest.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 09:03 AM
*whines to the mods about Dei's remarks*

ringworm
05-20-2008, 09:10 AM
Heck it's no different than Ringworm's trolling of Amit. You didn't see Ringworm complaining on here.
fixed :)

when amits logged on, its like swimming under a pier, the bait is easy to spot, and if you snatch it just right, you can pull a lot of line out before he sets the drag :)

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 09:49 AM
Smokey, Wish wasn't the one who banned me.

dei
05-20-2008, 10:18 AM
Steve, I wouldn't be surprised if this account also gets banned.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 10:28 AM
fix'd.

semi
05-20-2008, 10:38 AM
i didnt ban you

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 10:43 AM
hmmm the plot thickens :eek:

guitrguy
05-20-2008, 10:46 AM
You have an alt, and relatively short ban. I don't see why its worth getting so worked up over.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 11:23 AM
You have an alt, and relatively short ban. I don't see why its worth getting so worked up over.

I wouldn't say worked up, but it's a pretty bs ban done by a mod who apparently doesn't even post in pnwi, at the behest of whining.

ringworm
05-20-2008, 11:39 AM
most of your bans are bs, tbo

i rarely, if ever, see you stoop to the level of insults that most in here direct at those of us that simply have a different opinion than they

dei
05-20-2008, 12:47 PM
What? He does it all the time.

Smokey D
05-20-2008, 04:01 PM
Whoops, my bad it wasn't Wish. I apologise to him.

This thread isn't just for me to look at. If other mods happen to browse here and see something they think needs action they're free to take it. I'm not silly enough to get territorial about this.

Iskandar
05-20-2008, 07:48 PM
No offense Steve, but you had that ban coming. Take it as a cue to tone done your rhetoric.

YDtoad
05-20-2008, 08:50 PM
uh huh glad you feel that way. You'll never see Serenity in here again.

dei
05-20-2008, 08:55 PM
Bye!

BridgeToSolace
05-20-2008, 09:18 PM
uh huh glad you feel that way. You'll never see Serenity in here again.

I call shenanigans on this.

It'll be more boring here without you, though, tbh

Dr Hooch
05-21-2008, 03:41 AM
It just means he's gonna use the toad account

BassRevelation1029
05-21-2008, 03:52 AM
I hope he brings back Zerokewl99999 for nostalgic purposes

totah
05-21-2008, 07:20 AM
Question:

Seeing that line crossing right through "Serenity" feels as good as seeing that clip of the Nazi getting hanged in the end of Schindler's List.

Is the above banworthy?

Dave de Sylvia
05-21-2008, 09:18 AM
1) why would it be banworthy?

2) why are you idiots so obsessed with getting each other banned recently?

guitrguy
05-21-2008, 09:37 AM
it makes my internet penis grow larger.

BridgeToSolace
05-21-2008, 12:31 PM
Is the above banworthy?

If you have to ask if it's ban worthy, it isn't ban worthy.

BassRevelation1029
05-21-2008, 02:39 PM
well all the nuts are banned.

I officially declare PAX PNWI

J Rad
05-21-2008, 03:24 PM
hey fu

mph4ever
05-23-2008, 12:51 PM
eh, whats with an alt on here? or should i just go and read the manual

mph4ever
05-26-2008, 08:46 AM
why was the thread on sex, masturbation and the churches closed? just wondering

Der Übermensch
05-26-2008, 10:34 AM
because it was getting absurd I assume

mph4ever
05-26-2008, 04:35 PM
oh, no structure then, huh?

guitrguy
05-26-2008, 05:24 PM
It was a tronn thread, they can only go so far without completely devolving.

Smokey D
05-26-2008, 09:16 PM
Because it was retarded from the outset.

By the way, alt means alternative account.

mph4ever
05-27-2008, 09:24 AM
cool, just wondering

totah
05-27-2008, 03:13 PM
1) why would it be banworthy?

'Cos I wanted to say it but I wasn't sure if it would be incitement/trolling etc. Now that I'm assured it isn't, I'll say it: Seeing Serenity get banned felt good. Really good. As if some sort of petty meaningless justice has been done.

2) why are you idiots so obsessed with getting each other banned recently?

Because Zero is an evil bigot who, I suspect, uses his ignorance as some sort of excuse to be a complete racist, sexist and dogmatic homophobe (respective to certain issues we discuss). That's to say, he's not just ignorant, he's hiding within his ignorance.

It's probably something to do with being on the internet as well.

Smokey D
05-27-2008, 04:39 PM
A world without Zero is less colourful. If everyone agreed on here, there'd be no point.

spitfirejunky
05-27-2008, 08:39 PM
Man some of you guys take this internet thing way too seriously.

Iscariot
05-28-2008, 01:48 AM
the idea that someone can assume someone else on an internet forum is an "evil bigot" because of the text they entered on their screen is pretty hilarious

for all anyone knows steve isn't behind any of his points at all maybe he's just trying to get a rise out of everyone in which cause i applaud him in his phenomenal success

Smokey D
05-28-2008, 01:54 AM
I'm sure he had to be trolling at least half the time.

His commitment to the gimmick is pretty incredible.

mph4ever
05-28-2008, 04:13 AM
it takes all sorts to maintain a good balance and maintain momentum

Volumnius Flush
05-28-2008, 06:48 AM
for all anyone knows steve isn't behind any of his points at all maybe he's just trying to get a rise out of everyone in which cause i applaud him in his phenomenal success

Yes he is certainly good at getting a rise out of people. Especially me!


His commitment to the gimmick is pretty incredible.

That it is Smokey. That it is.

totah
05-28-2008, 07:49 AM
Well it's granted that every judgement we make of someone on the internet is a judgement of them on the internet. And on the internet Zteve is an evil evil bigot. I say internet, I should probably say MX PNWI.

Dr Hooch
05-28-2008, 09:42 AM
Yes he is certainly good at getting a rise out of people. Especially me!

We're talking about irritation not erections

Volumnius Flush
05-28-2008, 09:36 PM
We're talking about irritation not erections

Oh, err... That's what I meant, irritation. :smoke:

Iskandar
05-28-2008, 11:32 PM
The worst part is that Steve isn't trolling.

Volumnius Flush
05-29-2008, 01:27 AM
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16380281&postcount=166

Please make him leave. He is just a troll and keeps posting inane bullcrap in my thread with no sign of any coherent thought or anything that could qualify as something from an average-intelligence human being.

He keeps posting random junk in my thread and he will not stop.

Reaganista
05-29-2008, 01:39 AM
tronn is actually really smart but there's an element of subtlety that goes over the head of most people who try too hard on here

also zero is only good when he starts the threads because then it's sometimes a crazy/interesting topic that hasnt been brought up on here but when he jumps into someone else's thread he always turns it into the same **** and it's not even worth reading really

siva_chair
05-29-2008, 02:29 AM
The worst part is that Steve isn't trolling.

How do you know for sure? Have you ever met him outside of this internet forum?

I know I have made stuff up just to mess with people on here. I think it is hilarious when people take it too seriously.

Whether Steve really and sincerely believes every single word he posts on here is irrelevant, he still should be applauded because he exposes how ridiculously serious people take this internet stuff.

dei
05-29-2008, 08:26 AM
Steve went to some mad Jesus school.

Dr Hooch
05-29-2008, 08:41 AM
Steve is a christian because it's the only religion with a saviour.

totah
05-29-2008, 01:29 PM
Steve is a christian because it's the only religion with a saviour.

Yeah? Their saviour is dead, shows how much they know. Now the Jewish mashiakh, he'll be invincible. When he comes, everything will be alright, just you wait and see.

Volumnius Flush
05-30-2008, 02:14 AM
Yeah? Their saviour is dead, shows how much they know. Now the Jewish mashiakh, he'll be invincible. When he comes, everything will be alright, just you wait and see.

I think it's mashiach.

siva_chair
05-30-2008, 02:19 AM
*sob* Leave Steve alone!!!

/Chris Crocker'd

BassRevelation1029
05-30-2008, 04:00 AM
Yeah? Their saviour is dead, shows how much they know. Now the Jewish mashiakh, he'll be invincible. When he comes, everything will be alright, just you wait and see.
you do realize its the same person?

I know I know, This isn't the place. Start a thread and we'll discuss biblical prophecy.
I think it's mashiach.
Either one works.

Dr Hooch
05-30-2008, 09:19 AM
I think it's mashiach.

I think it's hebrew

Volumnius Flush
05-31-2008, 02:10 AM
I think it's hebrew

I think you're right.

Dr Hooch
05-31-2008, 02:55 AM
I think you're right.

so the spelling is purely phonetic

Iskandar
06-03-2008, 01:29 PM
so the spelling is purely phoneticIn Biblical Hebrew it is, but not so much in Modern Hebrew, and besides it's a different alphabet so obviously transliterations will vary.

/dork

Volumnius Flush
06-03-2008, 03:08 PM
In Biblical Hebrew it is, but not so much in Modern Hebrew, and besides it's a different alphabet so obviously transliterations will vary.

/dork

Pwned Dr Hooch!

Iskandar
06-04-2008, 03:31 PM
But seriously, mashiakh is better.

Dr Hooch
06-04-2008, 03:42 PM
Pwned Dr Hooch!

WHAT

NO

what i mean is

you cannot correct the spelling of a hebrew word using a western keyboard because you're just approximating to our pheonetics

it's the equivalent of you correcting koran to qu'uran or something

Iskandar
06-04-2008, 04:02 PM
you cannot correct the spelling of a hebrew word using a western keyboard because you're just approximating to our pheonetics

it's the equivalent of you correcting koran to qu'uran or somethingThere are standards, though. Qur'an is more accurate than Koran.

Dr Hooch
06-04-2008, 04:33 PM
There are standards, though. Qur'an is more accurate than Koran.

only because it's a closer approximation of the sound though, surely?

Iskandar
06-04-2008, 05:04 PM
only because it's a closer approximation of the sound though, surely?As well as the original spelling.

mph4ever
06-05-2008, 05:06 AM
why am i seeing comments like vf says it like it is, nazis itt and close this thread on the pnwi threads home page?

Volumnius Flush
06-05-2008, 05:23 AM
why am i seeing comments like vf says it like it is, nazis itt and close this thread on the pnwi threads home page?

Those are tags.

mph4ever
06-05-2008, 12:43 PM
ok, but where are they gone?

i haven't seen them before

dei
06-05-2008, 12:54 PM
They were removed.

Wish
06-05-2008, 12:54 PM
mx disabled the feature earlier.

mph4ever
06-05-2008, 03:28 PM
thank you

mph4ever
06-07-2008, 06:41 PM
are we finished with all the down time?

Volumnius Flush
06-07-2008, 07:15 PM
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16396704&postcount=48

Intolerance of cultural differences.

Dave de Sylvia
06-07-2008, 07:26 PM
Thanks for pointing that out!

Volumnius Flush
06-07-2008, 07:27 PM
Thanks for pointing that out!

And what do you think you ought to do about it? A board which is a beacon of liberalism and tolerance can't possibly support this outrageous display of intolerance against the greatest state in the Union can it?

Dave de Sylvia
06-07-2008, 07:30 PM
This board isn't really a beacon of tolerance. It's owned by a conservative Christian ffs

Volumnius Flush
06-07-2008, 07:33 PM
This board isn't really a beacon of tolerance. It's owned by a conservative Christian ffs

Since when is Jeremy a conservative Christian?

Dave de Sylvia
06-07-2008, 07:35 PM
I'm not sure of the exact history. But I can confirm that it occurred at some point during his life.

Iskandar
06-07-2008, 07:35 PM
Jeremy has basically nothing to do with this board anymore.

Volumnius Flush
06-07-2008, 07:36 PM
I'm not sure of the exact history. But I can confirm that it occurred at some point during his life.

Well then why do you think he has such liberal mods fulfill his forum obligations?

Dave de Sylvia
06-07-2008, 07:38 PM
Because there aren't many conservatives around?

Volumnius Flush
06-07-2008, 07:41 PM
Because there aren't many conservatives around?

Be sure to let Jeremy know, if he wants a dedicated, responsible, forum patriot, conservative, Christian, fun-loving, tolerant, understanding, affable, and open-minded moderator to mod his website, I am totally laying myself on the line :)

Why was Iscariot banned?

Der Übermensch
06-07-2008, 07:44 PM
...tolerant,...
wtf?

Sorry but what is he? 20...21? And still under his parent's roof? Get real dog. I have been on my own since I was 18 for the most part. Make your own way in life... don't let others make it for you. And eww he goes to university, oh that really makes him a man!

If I was a whiney bitch like you, I'd ask the mods to ban you for a virulant wave of completly unwarranted attacks on my charachter without any substance on which to base them.

Lucky for you, I don't take people who fail at life seriously.

Dave de Sylvia
06-07-2008, 07:56 PM
Be sure to let Jeremy know, if he wants a dedicated, responsible, forum patriot, conservative, Christian, fun-loving, tolerant, understanding, affable, and open-minded moderator to mod his website, I am totally laying myself on the line :)

Why was Iscariot banned?
I will phone him as soon as possible to inform him of this laying!

Volumnius Flush
06-07-2008, 07:57 PM
I will phone him as soon as possible to inform him of this laying!

Thank you very much Spat Out! The sooner he gets the message the sooner I can get to work and clean this place up!

wtf?



If I was a whiney bitch like you, I'd ask the mods to ban you for a virulant wave of completly unwarranted attacks on my charachter without any substance on which to base them.

Lucky for you, I don't take people who fail at life seriously.

So two posts constitutes a virulent wave? :rolleyes:

Apollyon
06-07-2008, 09:24 PM
Why was Iscariot banned?

spam in l&r and comparing tronn's stickam girlfriend to anne frank

So two posts constitutes a virulent wave?

one post was enough for you to identify cultural intolerance

Volumnius Flush
06-08-2008, 05:54 PM
Your threads are songs full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Of course they have tons of replies: you're a habitual troll!

The math thread, in contrast, actually has mostly intelligent dialogue in it (except for your dumbassed microwave banter), since its tone was not set by a horribly inbred retard.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16397757&postcount=71

Insulting language.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16397789&postcount=77

Spam.

Volumnius Flush
06-08-2008, 07:16 PM
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16397992&postcount=78

Putting words in my mouth.

Apollyon
06-08-2008, 07:37 PM
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16397762&postcount=659
http://sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16398031&postcount=660

filling the report problems thread with trivial personal disputes

mph4ever
06-10-2008, 09:52 AM
when will the search function be back?

Der Übermensch
06-11-2008, 12:28 PM
What was VF banned for this time?

Iskandar
06-11-2008, 12:42 PM
Being a general nuisance, I suppose.

Hababi
06-11-2008, 01:36 PM
ok how about banning tha end for homophobic slurs and general thuggery:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16405090&postcount=44

Apollyon
06-11-2008, 01:45 PM
What was VF banned for this time?

probably for being vf

Dr Hooch
06-11-2008, 03:06 PM
ok how about banning tha end for homophobic slurs and general thuggery:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16405090&postcount=44

how can it be a homophobic slur if you're not even (openly) gay

it's just a slur

Dave de Sylvia
06-13-2008, 10:18 AM
ok how about banning tha end for homophobic slurs and general thuggery:

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16405090&postcount=44
It's only a homophobic slur if he's the one that's homophobic.

Volumnius Flush
06-17-2008, 11:16 PM
Blatant intolerance, trolling, and hate speech on part of one of MX's very one, Dei.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16417503&postcount=18

Mad debate skillz!

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showpost.php?p=16417613&postcount=400

Der Übermensch
06-17-2008, 11:43 PM
Wow VF, not even unbanned for a day and already acting *censured*.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 12:11 AM
Wow VF, not even unbanned for a day and already acting *censured*.

How am I acting censured? I am going through the proper channels to voice my beliefs in an MX democracy and where I am banned for alleged spamming, I believe equally one should be banned for cultural insensitivity and intolerance.

guitrguy
06-18-2008, 12:26 AM
You are reporting stupid ****, idk.

Dr Hooch
06-18-2008, 07:05 AM
How am I acting censured? I am going through the proper channels to voice my beliefs in an MX democracy and where I am banned for alleged spamming, I believe equally one should be banned for cultural insensitivity and intolerance.

MX is not a democracy it's a dictatorship and you are displeasing all our dear leaders

Iskandar
06-18-2008, 05:03 PM
Elect The Dropper for PNWI mod in 09.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 05:11 PM
Elect The Dropper for PNWI mod in 09.

Unfortunately for you, you will have competition.

Stevie II
06-18-2008, 05:13 PM
How am I acting censured? I am going through the proper channels to voice my beliefs in an MX democracy and where I am banned for alleged spamming, I believe equally one should be banned for cultural insensitivity and intolerance.

how about banning for intolerance of intolerance?

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 05:15 PM
how about banning for intolerance of intolerance?

Funny because now you're intolerant of my intolerance for intolerance. Maybe you're the one who should banned...

Iskandar
06-18-2008, 05:31 PM
Unfortunately for you, you will have competition.You're absolutely right. Der Übermensch would make an excellent moderator as well.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 05:36 PM
You're absolutely right. Der Übermensch would make an excellent moderator as well.

Both committed leftist liberal pretty boys. We need strong conservative leadership on this board. Being one of the few conservatives on this board, not constituting an actual vote, I accept my party's nomination for modship over PNWI.

Prepare for battle Dropper. You are going down.

Iskandar
06-18-2008, 05:39 PM
Too bad this board has barely any conservatives but lots of people who hate you.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 05:43 PM
Too bad this board has barely any conservatives but lots of people who hate you.

Many of the seasoned professionals on this board have high praise for me. I am loved by the MX Elite, the MX working class don't like my style, which I have plenty of, and the mods can see that.

And it is exactly why I would be such a good mod.

Iskandar
06-18-2008, 06:01 PM
No, actually, you're a joke here.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 06:03 PM
No, actually, you're a joke here.

Apparently you haven't seen my new thread on Cocoa Puffs. :rolleyes:

Der Übermensch
06-18-2008, 08:32 PM
How am I acting censured? I am going through the proper channels to voice my beliefs in an MX democracy and where I am banned for alleged spamming, I believe equally one should be banned for cultural insensitivity and intolerance.

I censured it so you wouldn't be able to report me for "intolerance" or "vulgarity" or what ever :p

Elect The Dropper for PNWI mod in 09.
You're absolutely right. Der Übermensch would make an excellent moderator as well.
Why thanks! If I remember right, we topped the "if you could elect the mods" poll here way back :p

I'll vote for you if you vote for me :chug:

Both committed leftist liberal pretty boys
Leftist Liberal?
Just goes to show how little you know about what I think. I despise Liberals (well, in terms of American politics) about as much as Conservatives. I won't even get into my feelings about the modern left, although I have certainly voiced them before.

Many of the seasoned professionals on this board have high praise for me. I am loved by the MX Elite
The only people who have been here longer than me I think are steve and DBoon. And even steve, the token conservative, doesn't think to highly of you I think. Despite his stubbornness, he isn't exactly an idiot.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 08:35 PM
Leftist Liberal?
Just goes to show how little you know about what I think. I despise Liberals (well, in terms of American politics) about as much as Conservatives. I won't even get into my feelings about the modern left, although I have certainly voiced them before.

You are a raving mad liberal. Admit it.

The only people who have been here longer than me I think are steve and DBoon. And even steve, the token conservative, doesn't think to highly of you I think. Despite his stubbornness, he isn't exactly an idiot.

Me and Steve are gay lovers. Just goes to show how little you know about what Steve thinks.

Der Übermensch
06-18-2008, 08:40 PM
You are a raving mad liberal. Admit it.
I am pro-gun.
I am anti-welfare.
I am against Aff. Action.
I am in support of small government.
I am an economic mutualist.
I am against any form of nanny state.
I am pro-strong military.
I am a political realist.

Hmm... I don't see the resemblance.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 08:41 PM
I am pro-gun.
I am anti-welfare.
I am against Aff. Action.
I am in support of small government.
I am an economic mutualist.
I am against any form of nanny state.
I am pro-strong military.
I am a political realist.

Hmm... I don't see the resemblance.

Compared to me you're a liberal.

ringworm
06-18-2008, 08:43 PM
I am pro-gun.
I am anti-welfare.
I am against Aff. Action.
I am in support of small government.
I am an economic mutualist.
I am against any form of nanny state.
I am pro-strong military.
I am a political realist.

we should agree all the time :)

guitrguy
06-18-2008, 08:44 PM
Funny because now you're intolerant of my intolerance for intolerance. Maybe you're the one who should banned...

You're just intolerant of people who joke about Christianity.

Iskandar
06-18-2008, 08:44 PM
I am pro-gun.
I am anti-welfare.
I am against Aff. Action.
I am in support of small government.
I am an economic mutualist.
I am against any form of nanny state.
I am pro-strong military.
I am a political realist.

Hmm... I don't see the resemblance.Actually, that makes you sound a lot like the archtypical libertarian.

Der Übermensch
06-18-2008, 08:45 PM
Compared to me you're a liberal.

Compared to you I'm Albert Einstein, but thats a different issue.

If you honestly think any of those view points fit me into a "Liberal" framework, you have a serious lack of understanding of what that word means politically.

Actually, that makes you sound a lot like the archtypical libertarian.
Exactly! Except for my lack of belief in the majority of their economic positions, I am very much in line with the American Libertarian party.
That being said, their economic positions alone would preclude me from ever wanting to see them elected to a serious position.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 08:49 PM
Compared to you I'm Albert Einstein, but thats a different issue.

And compared to irreligious Einstein, I'm Jesus Christ, so what's your point?

Der Übermensch
06-18-2008, 08:51 PM
That was an aside. My point was the rest of the post... the part you ignored because I assume you don't even know how to retort :)

dei
06-18-2008, 08:51 PM
Volumnius Flush would make a horrible moderator.

Iskandar
06-18-2008, 08:53 PM
Exactly! Except for my lack of belief in the majority of their economic positions, I am very much in line with the American Libertarian party.
That being said, their economic positions alone would preclude me from ever wanting to see them elected to a serious position.That warms the cockles of my heart because while libertarians are dependably liberal in the social arena, their economic policies are truly nutty.

Incidentally, how would you vote in America, if you voted at all?
Volumnius Flush would make a horrible moderator.He should be banned again, permanently.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 09:02 PM
He should be banned again, permanently.

For what might I ask? Differing political ideology? You sir are an intolerance agent in the vein of Hitler.

Der Übermensch
06-18-2008, 09:03 PM
That warms the cockles of my heart because while libertarians are dependably liberal in the social arena, their economic policies are truly nutty.

They fail to see that the over reliance on big business will mean that the coercive nature of government they rid us of will not go away, but just become privatized.

Mutualism is nice as it avoids that possibility (mostly) while maintaining a healthy, competitive economic environment.

Incidentally, how would you vote in America, if you voted at all?
He should be banned again, permanently.

I don't know who I'm voting for. I would have voted McCain, against Clinton, cause I despise her enough to do it out of spite.
Obama seems like a nice guy though (I've heard as much from a Sec. Service agent, who is a friends dad), so that isn't a reason now.

I might throw my vote, or maybe one of them will start to say things I like. ATM I don't care much for either.
Clueless old fart, and blind young idealist are the current impressions I have.
And if I am so hated, why am I in the top 200 reputation list?
Last I checked, I rounded out the top 100, and I would bet Dropper is a nice bit higher than that. So whats ur point?

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 10:02 PM
They fail to see that the over reliance on big business will mean that the coercive nature of government they rid us of will not go away, but just become privatized.

Mutualism is nice as it avoids that possibility (mostly) while maintaining a healthy, competitive economic environment.



I don't know who I'm voting for. I would have voted McCain, against Clinton, cause I despise her enough to do it out of spite.
Obama seems like a nice guy though (I've heard as much from a Sec. Service agent, who is a friends dad), so that isn't a reason now.

I might throw my vote, or maybe one of them will start to say things I like. ATM I don't care much for either.
Clueless old fart, and blind young idealist are the current impressions I have.

Last I checked, I rounded out the top 100, and I would bet Dropper is a nice bit higher than that. So whats ur point?

Oh so you're 50, maybe 75 places higher than me? Considerably more popular I see out of how many? 2300+ people. So you are in effect a whole 4%-7% more popular than I? Worth bragging about?

Der Übermensch
06-18-2008, 10:05 PM
No, I'm not bragging. You were the one bragging. I was just pointing out you are probably one of the lowest rated of the PNWI regulars.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 10:16 PM
No, I'm not bragging. You were the one bragging. I was just pointing out you are probably one of the lowest rated of the PNWI regulars.

And Steve is virtually hated but is something like #4, so what's your point?

Der Übermensch
06-18-2008, 10:21 PM
This is the most absurd discussion...

Here's a great thing for you to do.
Make a poll thread here, thats says "How many people think I, VF, am an awesome guy?"
That'll simply things.

Volumnius Flush
06-18-2008, 10:54 PM
"That'll simply things."? You may want to reconsider that one.

Look, if you are going to present yourself as a child, you will be treated as a child. I am done with this discussion.

pppoe
06-18-2008, 10:59 PM
Someone made a typo. Let's attack them for it.

VF, go troll somewhere else.

Volumnius Flush
06-19-2008, 01:11 AM
Repeat spamming by Iscariot in my new thread.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559194

There are additional spammers including Bordello and thunderzstruck but I do not believe this warrants a report. Only in the case of repeat spam which Iscariot is guilty of. Please do something about this unethical forum behavior mods.

Danger Bird
06-19-2008, 01:31 AM
why are you reporting your own spam thread?

Der Übermensch
06-19-2008, 02:06 AM
if you stopped complaining about trivial ****, we might dislike u a bit less.

OmG! omG! Look what VF called me! -->"liberal fag" mOds! YoU have 2 bAnz hIm for hIs IntOlerAncE! He'S beIng MEAAAN tO me!!!

Seriously, get over yourself, and stop it. You are pretty much the only one who complains about this crap.

Smokey D
06-19-2008, 02:38 AM
The more he reports **** here the more likely I am to ban him for being an idiot elsewhere.

Danger Bird
06-19-2008, 02:49 AM
vf keep reporting ****

mph4ever
06-19-2008, 07:53 AM
smokey, i'd missed your cool, calm and logical way of sticking to the point.

*EDIT
is trolling actually recongised as a medical condition anyhwere? is there treatment apart from banning because it surely cannot be good for the troll.

Dr Hooch
06-19-2008, 10:19 AM
Many of the seasoned professionals on this board have high praise for me. I am loved by the MX Elite, the MX working class don't like my style, which I have plenty of, and the mods can see that.

And it is exactly why I would be such a good mod.

Dude I must've been on these forums >5yrs now so i think I am pretty seasoned

and uh

no

you're at best adorable and at worst irritating

mph4ever
06-19-2008, 11:36 AM
Many of the seasoned professionals on this board have high praise for me. I am loved by the MX Elite, the MX working class don't like my style, which I have plenty of, and the mods can see that.

And it is exactly why I would be such a good mod.

what powers do mods have that you would like to have?

Der Übermensch
06-19-2008, 12:09 PM
He would ban everyone less conservative than steve I imagine.

Iscariot
06-19-2008, 03:14 PM
Dude I must've been on these forums >5yrs now so i think I am pretty seasoned

and uh

no

you're at best adorable and at worst irritating

i've been here about as long and i wouldn't even give him the courtesy of calling him adorable

Volumnius Flush
06-19-2008, 05:08 PM
why are you reporting your own spam thread?

I am reporting Iscariot for spam. Can't you read? My thread is utterly serious.

Iscariot
06-19-2008, 06:22 PM
go tell jeremy

mph4ever
06-22-2008, 10:22 AM
He would ban everyone less conservative than steve I imagine.

so, you mean everyone except steve would be banned

Der Übermensch
06-22-2008, 10:50 AM
i assume

totah
06-22-2008, 06:33 PM
I could fit in Steve's ideology. Why just the other day I took what I thought were thesis and antithesis and synthesised them into a whole new synthesis:

Anti-authoritarian egalitarianism

+

Technological surveillance state

(I mix in some of that Asimov ****, y'know what I'm talkin' 'bout)
=

Everyone gets a little robot film crew following them day and night and they get to edit their whole life and put it on an internationally-accessible network not unlike Myspace crossed with Youtube where we socialise locally and globally simultaneously and all communication has to rhyme (otherwise society will fall apart 'cos of the rhyme-engines in low orbit catching the rhyming soundwaves and converting them into cheap, clean, efficient energy called hiffop).

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 06:52 AM
6 posts/1 page/all spam

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559376&page=3

by 1338

1338 h4x0r
06-23-2008, 06:53 AM
That thread is pure **** anyway, so who cares?

It's an argumentum ad populum for Satan's sake

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 06:55 AM
That thread is pure **** anyway, so who cares?

It's an argumentum ad populum for Satan's sake

I am trying my best to contribute to the forum the only way I know how and people are trying to ruin me and my efforts. First and foremost you.

1338 h4x0r
06-23-2008, 06:57 AM
Your contributions are ****.

Here's a rough guideline on how to argue without getting your *** kicked btw:

http://www.xenu.net/archive/baloney_detection.html
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 07:00 AM
Your contributions are ****.

Here's a rough guideline on how to argue without getting your *** kicked btw:


I am not worried about debate skills. I am worried about contributing something new and original whether it is bunk or not. At least something to get people thinking, which half of these threads are very bad at.

"contributions are ****"? No worse than Danger Bird's or Rounder's. Or yours.

And you know what looks really pathetic is you trying to defend yourself when you know better than I do the mods probably aren't going to do anything.

dei
06-23-2008, 07:50 AM
Can someone please ban VF?

1338 h4x0r
06-23-2008, 07:55 AM
I am not worried about debate skills. I am worried about contributing something new and original whether it is bunk or not. At least something to get people thinking, which half of these threads are very bad at.

Problem is your threads usually get people ridiculing you because there isn't much to think about.

You really should read about logical fallacies and how to avoid them.


"contributions are ****"? No worse than Danger Bird's or Rounder's. Or yours.


Some of my posts are brilliant, some are unabashed stupidity.

I don't take posts too seriously where I say stuff like "I'm going to see Hypatia's thingies in Hell uh huh huh huh"

Hababi
06-23-2008, 07:59 AM
Can someone please ban VF?

only if 1338 h4x0r goes too.

dei
06-23-2008, 08:00 AM
No because he actually makes proper posts. VF is a troll.

Aaron
06-23-2008, 08:05 AM
1338 is a smart person who makes silly posts inbetween good posts sometimes.
VF is not a smart person; who spams when he gets emotional, which is all the time.

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 08:07 AM
You realize this discussion comes up every time I report someone? So because of people breaking MX Laws, I should be punished?

Hababi
06-23-2008, 08:07 AM
Vf is more entertaining.

Aaron
06-23-2008, 08:09 AM
"MX laws" lol.

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 08:11 AM
Vf is more entertaining.

Coming from the best mod MX has ever had, I think the current mods should respect his wishes.

1338 h4x0r
06-23-2008, 08:17 AM
Vf is more entertaining.

True, but VF is entertaining in a kind of peanut gallery way.

Try as I may, I can't write material that's as comically stupid as his.

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 08:20 AM
Try as I may, I can't write material that's as comically stupid as his.

Substance this forum needs. I contribute quite a bit of substance and without me and Steve, which everyone has seemed to be calling for as of late, this forum would not be the same and no other views would be represented no matter how ludicrous you may think they are. Grifta, Steve, and I are just about the only conservatives on this forum.

Aaron
06-23-2008, 08:20 AM
I'm conservative, just not in a nutbag way.

1338 h4x0r
06-23-2008, 08:23 AM
By whose standards?

You'd be considered a leftist here

dei
06-23-2008, 08:24 AM
You mean you and Steve are the only neoconservatives on this forum.

guitrguy
06-23-2008, 08:25 AM
Vf is more entertaining.

In the gory train wreck you really shouldn't be watching kind of way.

Aaron
06-23-2008, 08:26 AM
By whose standards?

You'd be considered a leftist here
Me? Really? I guess I'm fairly odd, but I consider my views conservative.

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 08:29 AM
You mean you and Steve are the only neoconservatives on this forum.

Well then who are the true conservatives then?

1338 h4x0r
06-23-2008, 08:29 AM
In the gory train wreck you really shouldn't be watching kind of way.

Don't defame the victims of train wrecks with VF comparisons

Der Übermensch
06-23-2008, 10:51 AM
Well then who are the true conservatives then?

I'm a traditional conservative!

dei
06-23-2008, 10:53 AM
No, you're a radical leftist.

totah
06-23-2008, 11:18 AM
Am I?

Der Übermensch
06-23-2008, 11:21 AM
No, you're a radical leftist.

Why does everyone say that!?

Dr Hooch
06-23-2008, 11:24 AM
Why does everyone say that!?

It's a joke from when steve asserted that Barack Obama was such.

Der Übermensch
06-23-2008, 11:26 AM
But I'm nothing like Obama either :-\

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 11:33 AM
Don't defame the victims of train wrecks with VF comparisons

Telling people not to defame people while defaming me. Real smart.

I'm a traditional conservative!

No. Here's proof.

No, you're a radical leftist.

Der Übermensch
06-23-2008, 11:33 AM
Please show me how this is so.

Volumnius Flush
06-23-2008, 11:41 AM
Please show me how this is so.

Because you're not in favor of school vouchers. Therefore, you are slightly farther to the left, though I can't say how much farther. But there's something you're liberal on.