100 Greatest Drummers: Poll 1, Round I

[PinkFreud]

Second to last round, right here. Don't ask about your favorite drummer or I'll get really angry. And no one wants that. No one at all. :thumb:

Martin Lopez - Opeth Thanks TojesDoLan
In the back of one of today's most acclaimed (and in the underground, most
controversial) Progressive-Death metal band, Martin Lopez is an Uruguayan
drummer who's been with Opeth for almost 10 years, along with his friend
Martin Mendez. Lopez is known for his great dexterity and technical
capabilities, but he is'nt very mentioned in terms of "speed". In my
opinion, his technique is ver good, anyhow.

Opeth:
Wreath
Deliverance (the last section is awesome)
Serenity painted Death
Blackwater Park

Tim Alexander – Primus, Attention Deficit
Tim Alexander is the eclectic drummer for Primus as well as the supergroup Attention Deficit. Alexander is extremely talented and creative. He uses his double bass sparingly, thank god, and incorporates many quick, well placed fills. His beats are inventive and he’s just a great drummer in general who is overshadowed in the band by Claypool.

Recommended Listening:
Jellikit
Spegetti Western
John The Fisherman
My Fellow Astronauts (Attention Deficit)
Nightmare On 48th Street (Attention Deficit)

Gene Hoglan - Death, Strapping Young Lad
Hoglan is the powerhouse drummer behind Strapping Young Lad. He's also worked with Death, Opeth, Testament, and Old Man's Child. He's nicknamed the "Atomic Clock" because of how extremely precise he is despite the technicality and complexity of the parts.

Stewart Copeland – The Police, Oysterhead
Stewart Copeland’s reggae influenced drumming, filled with rim shots and hi-hat rolls, was a breath of fresh air when the Police burst onto the scene. He’s one of the most powerful, hard hitting traditional style drummers. His parts may sound simple but the ghost notes and little things he throws in make it a lot harder to actually play. He’s also in the supergroup Oysterhead with Les Claypool and Trey Anastasio.

Recommended Listening:
One World (Not Three)
So Lonely
Message in a Bottle
Army’s On Ecstasy (with Oysterhead)
Little Faces (with Oysterhead)

Jose Pasillas - Incubus
Writeup Needed

Billy Cobham – Mahavishnu Orchestra, Jack Bruce, Jazz Is Dead
Billy Cobham is mostly a jazz drummer. I’m gonna get that right out in the open. However, Mahavishnu Orchestra, the early band he had with John McLaughlin, could be considered prog-rock as well. Anyway, he’s a very, very fast, complex, and innovative drummer. He has a lightning-quick style of playing that is respectable on its own but when it’s coupled with the time signatures they used and the complexity of their music it’s really unbelievable.

Recommended Listening:
The Noonward Race
Vital Transformation
Dream
One Word

Clive Burr - Iron Maiden Thanks YDload
Clive Burr played drums on Iron Maiden's first three albums, including their breakthrough classic The Number of the Beast. Although he was overshadowed by the outlandish replacement Nicko McBrain, Burr is definitely not inferior to him in terms of skill. Like McBrain, he rarely plays any song in a "bare-bones" style, choosing instead to offer inventive and awesome beats to whatever song he plays. Even the notoriously subpar Maiden song "Gangland" starts out with a heart-racing beat by Burr. Although he has now been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, putting his drumming days tragically behind him, Clive Burr will always be remembered for being a true metal warrior.

Recommended listening:

Iron Maiden
Wrathchild
Genghis Khan
Gangland
The Prisoner
Hallowed Be Thy Name


Cozy Powell – Jeff Beck Group, Rainbow, Black Sabbath, etc.
Cozy Powell was a powerhouse drummer who played with many groups, among them the Jeff Beck Group, Rainbow, and Black Sabbath. He had a huge sound and chops to spare. His legendary work with those groups provided a layout that many a heavy metal drummer has followed. His admirable double bass skill combined with his fast hands made him a studio star and one of the most respected drummers of all time.

Recommended Listening:
Stargazer (Rainbow)
A Light In The Black (Rainbow)
Ice Cream Cakes (Jeff Beck Group)
Glad All Over (Jeff Beck Group)

Tommy Lee - Motley Crue Thanks Spat Out Plath
Few drummers divide more than Tommy Lee. He probably sucks at math, but the real divisive issue is his skill as a drummer. Widely acknowledged as the best rock drummer around during the '80s by people who didn't really know what they were talking about, Lee quickly came to embody everything committed drummers hate: completely self-taught, technically short of brilliant and with questionable commitment to the instrument. Nevertheless, Lee has shown through his career with Motley Crue that he can be extremely creative despite being hindered by the confines of the conservative hard rock genre, particularly on debut album 'Too Fast For Love'. His true peak came in the '90s with the release of heavy metal monster 'Motley Crue' and the experimental rock album 'Generation Swine,' where he pushed his abilities further than ever. He's also unrivalled in this mastery of the cowbell. Un-rivalled.


Recommended tracks:

Let Us Prey
Power To The Music
Public Enemy #1
Shout At The Devil '97

Jay Wynne - Circle Takes The Square
Writeup Needed

Vote away!

[guitrguy]

Lopez FTW!!!!

[labrat]

Chris Adler.

[Lunch]

Tough call between Cozy Powell and Billy Cobham.

[Darkness]

Chris Adler.
...


I'll probably vote Lopez.

[Dried Muffin Remnants]

Easily, Tim Alexander. But it should be known that Martin Lopez has very good fills too. Tim's got the best, though.

[Elmo McCheese]

Martin Lopez. Adler and Hoglan aren't far behind though.

[labrat]

Honestly, hes just my favorite drummer.
I don't even know anything about drums,I play guitar.

[Seafroggys]

where's the damn poll! I've never participated in these things early on!

Probably Cobham for me.

[Darkness]

But he's not in this poll.

[Elmo McCheese]

Sixth one down

[I'm Charming]

Lopez ftw

[labrat]

Chris adler deserves to be listed up there.

[i am the robots]

I'd vote Lopez... a poll would be nice...

Chris Adler was on the last poll dumbass.

[Jacaranda]

The best one in the poll is Copeland, no exceptions.

[labrat]

I'd vote Lopez... a poll would be nice...

Chris Adler was on the last poll dumbass.


What last poll?

[guitrguy]

Chris adler deserves to be listed up there.
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Second to last round, right here. Don't ask about your favorite drummer or I'll get really angry. And no one wants that. No one at all. :thumb:
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[Jacaranda]

A poll that took place earlier.

Where is Charlie Watts!
:angry:

[Apocalypticon]

Clive Burr

[PinkFreud]

Chris adler deserves to be listed up there.
Shutupshutupshutupshutup. ****. Is English not your first language? Are you blind? Series of polls. This is one of them. Just stop talking. I don't even want to see an argument or rebuttal out of you. Just don't post in this thread again.

[guitrguy]

Shutupshutupshutupshutup. ****. Is English not your first language? Are you blind? Series of polls. This is one of them. Just stop talking. I don't even want to see an argument or rebuttal out of you. Just don't post in this thread again.
Man you weren't kidding about getting angry.

[Thor]

Lopez all the way on this one.

[heavy metal kid]

First to vote Tim Alexander, he's easily the best in this poll imo and my all time favorite.

[Sleepy]

Lopez FTW. He's an amazing, creative drummer and an even more amazing live performer.

[Prince of Darkness]

I wanted to go with Lopez, becuase of my love-affair with Opeth, but Gene Hoglan is just amazing. Mindblowing. Insane double-pedal.

[Futuro]

Gene Hoglan. Between him and lopez. But Lopez is doing fine.

[Daven]

Gene Hoglan without a doubt.

[PinkFreud]

Wow. I never thought it'd be a blowout this bad already. Alexander, Cobham, and Copeland definitely need to get through.

[Steerpike]

What last poll?

It really helps if you actually read the first post. Hell, reading the entire tread title probably would have helped.

In the past, whenever these polls were held, there's always been an overflow of people like yourself who are too god damn lazy to actually read the first post and put two and two together, and it's driving a lot of regulars insane.

Moving on...

I'm going to hold my vote for a couple days and see how Cozy and Stewart are doing.

[Prince of Darkness]

I also like Jose Pasillas lll, doesn't look like he's doing too good

[halfdeadhippo]

First to vote Tim Alexander, he's easily the best in this poll imo and my all time favorite.
Just out of curiosity, have you heard all the drummers in this poll?

I voted for Cobham, though Hoglan could give him a run for his money (in skills, not in the poll).

[robo2448]

Wow. I never thought it'd be a blowout this bad already. Alexander, Cobham, and Copeland definitely need to get through.

I voted Cobham. He deserves to win but Mahavishnu Orchestra isn't as popular as they should be on here.

[halfdeadhippo]

I voted Cobham. He deserves to win but Mahavishnu Orchestra isn't as popular as they should be on here.
I agree. I <3 Vital Transformation. He'll probably get owned by the "If I've never heard him, he must suck" factor, though.

[PinkFreud]

Have you heard Alexander's work with Attention Deficit though? It's really quite good.

[Mute Requiem]

It was tough between Hoglan and Lopez, but Gene's drumming is absolutely killer and always gives me that "Damn, I just got my *** kicked" feeling.

[ChrisAdlerisGod]

Gene Hoglan. Tommy Lee is over-rated!!!

[Lunch]

Gene Hoglan. Tommy Lee is over-rated!!!

Which is evident by all 0 of his votes....

[Phallus Dei]

If Copeland doesn't make it I'm kicking some ***.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

Gene Hoglan, no contest.

[StreetlightRock]

Cobham, 'cause im pretty damn sure Lopez and Hoglan are gonna have no problem.

[rockinbass17]

Only the 2nd to vote for Copeland....I hope he at least has a chance.

[niobium]

I wanted to vote for Copeland, but I went with Alexander. And how did Tommy Lee get on this list?

[CaptainWaits]

Herb gets mine

[Riva]

I voted Cobham over Hoglan because I'm a bloody elitist. :p

[Inpropagation]

Hoglan for me.

[Moses]

Tim got my vote. I figure Cobham will go through.

Contrary to what most people think, Tommy Lee can actually play. He just doesn't play out in Motley Crue.

[Nepenthe]

Tim got my vote. I figure Cobham will go through.

Contrary to what most people think, Tommy Lee can actually play. He just doesn't play out in Motley Crue.

Do you know of any videos or anything of him actually playing good? I'd just like to see what he's actually capable of.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Gene Hoglan.

Dark ****ing Angel \m/

[Moses]

A jazz drummer showed me at school on his portable DVD player. I'll try and find some on Youtube.

[YDload]

Tim Alexander is my favorite drummer ever! Once you listen to him in "John the Fisherman," you'll go back through all the other Primus songs and listen to the drumming more closely: it's insane. This guy never lets up: he brings some serious heaviness to that traditional Primus sound. Without him, they would just be silly and non-threatening, but percussion makes just as much of an impact on how "hard" a band is as guitars do.

Clive Burr

Clive Burr played drums on Iron Maiden's first three albums, including their breakthrough classic The Number of the Beast. Although he was overshadowed by the outlandish replacement Nicko McBrain, Burr is definitely not inferior to him in terms of skill. Like McBrain, he rarely plays any song in a "bare-bones" style, choosing instead to offer inventive and awesome beats to whatever song he plays. Even the notoriously subpar Maiden song "Gangland" starts out with a heart-racing beat by Burr. Although he has now been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, putting his drumming days tragically behind him, Clive Burr will always be remembered for being a true metal warrior.

Recommended listening:

Iron Maiden
Wrathchild
Genghis Khan
Gangland
The Prisoner
Hallowed Be Thy Name

[-The Frank]

Burr

[pulseczar]

Cobham definitely.

Cozy Powell was also part of the short-lived Emerson Lake & Powell of the 80s *the more you know*

[gillygan]

If you voted Tim Alexander your automatically cool :cool:

The intro to Eleven is so awsome.

[Stringbreaker]

Lopez Ftw.

[rhcp pman]

Definitely Martin Lopez. He's an outstanding drummer with a great style.

I would probably add "Death Whispered a Lullaby" to the recommended list. That probably has some of my fav Opeth drumming. It's from the Damnation album, so the song is more like Porcupine Tree style progressive rock, but Lopez REALLY rips up in the song, particularly in the later sections.

I also like Cobham, Copeland, Hoglan and Alexander. Pasillas is good as well.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

My vote went for Cobham.

Does anyone else think Lopez shouldn't really be winning this? He's a good fit for Opeth, but I don't really think he's anything too special. :shrug:

[PinkFreud]

Definitely shouldn't be winning, especially considering his company.

[Futuro]

Billy Cobham plays sloppy.

Ugh, Harmonic etude of Rim clicks during a drum solo.

[Serapheus]

Lopez, but Gene Hoglan was on my mind... Lopez is damn groovy and has the the tastiest cymbal work for me. :smoke:

[guitrguy]

Lopez, but Gene Hoglan was on my mind... Lopez is damn groovy and has the the tastiest cymbal work for me. :smoke:
I was actually notiving that earlier today. He play with such finesse that really rare in modern day drummers.

[Tusk]

Cobham isn't sloppy.

Tell you the truth, I never listen for drums when Mahavishnu is on, but im glad I did.. The Noonward Race has rather spectacular drumming.

[Leper]

I really love Stewart Copeland's drumming with the Police.

[Futuro]

Cobham isn't sloppy.

Tell you the truth, I never listen for drums when Mahavishnu is on, but im glad I did.. The Noonward Race has rather spectacular drumming.He smashes rims like no other. VERY sloppy player.

[penelope weird hands]

Argh, fvck!
Lopez and Alexander in the same poll. :/
But it seems Lopez will make it so my vote goes to Alexander. :thumb:
He cranks! The end of Frizzle Fry owns me hard.

Pasillas gets an honorable mention, he also has some great beats.

[Happy]

Cozy Powell no doubt.

[TakeWarning]

Martin Lopez. Absolutely amazing.

[Kosmos Tree]

Lopez: great feel and tasty playing

[Dragon_Prince]

Stewart Copeland is definetifely the best :)

[the2stranger]

Easy one :cool:
Lopez!

[Collis]

I wasn't sure between Powell and Copeland, so I went with the latter in the end ...

[rik]

Clive Burr.

[Lord Abortion]

Clive.

Gangland intro FTW

[Josh]

i went with Burr :)
although Cozy Powell is also awesome.

[PinkFreud]

He smashes rims like no other. VERY sloppy player.
He rim clicks too much but it doesn't matter. He's still an amazing player.

[Alien Six]

José Passillas II

:):):):)

[raz0r]

Martin Lopez.

Only one who comes close is Gene.

[erock]

Voted for gene hoglan. looks like opeth will take another poll regardless of who the better drummer MAY be.

[superpeer]

I'll vote the Circle Takes the Square guy, because he's good and has no votes.

[crag]

Clive Burr, i love that drum beat at the beginning of The Prisoner.

[Clunge]

Lopez.

[Futuro]

He rim clicks too much but it doesn't matter. He's still an amazing player.Nothing worse than fast sloppy playing man.

I never said he wasnt an amazing player, When he is with a band he plays great.

[PinkFreud]

Eh. I can ignore the clickies though. It's like when there's a really good vocalist but you can hear sharp intakes of breath too much. It's bad when you pay attention to it but when you focus on other aspects of their ability, it's not too bad. But the clicks are especially bad on his solo album.

[rhcp pman]

Voted for gene hoglan. looks like opeth will take another poll regardless of who the better drummer MAY be.
Well, he wouldn't be dominating if he wasn't a great drummer. Understandably, you'll get a few fanboy votes from people who vote for anything to do with their fav band regardless of what it is. But he is a damn good drummer.

[Tyr]

Martin Lopez all the way.

[Toaster]

Hoglan. Truly a beast.

[Duncster]

I wanna vote Tim... but the fact that Copleland isn't in position to go through is maddening!

[panthersfan16]

i voted for the fat guy. Fat people hit things good

[Electric City]

I don't know any of these drummers. Are there no drummers in any form of pop that are poll worthy? Because I think some of the drummers here aren't as good as some others.

Just my two cents.

[Phallus Dei]

Its an R&M poll any way... not a pop poll. The Police are Pop Rock though...

[DemonicRubberDucky]

Clive Burr. I listen to some of the stuff he does, it just plain amazes me!

[PinkFreud]

I don't know any of these drummers. Are there no drummers in any form of pop that are poll worthy? Because I think some of the drummers here aren't as good as some others.

Just my two cents.
If you don't know any of these drummers then how do you know if some aren't as good as others? You're just making yourself look stupid. Which drummers from pop would you put up here? Colaiuta and Freese from other polls have done and still do pop studio work.

[Dragon_Prince]

OMG if Copeland doesn't get through you can know for sure people here don't know anything 'bout drumming

[tom79]

I don't know any of these drummers. Are there no drummers in any form of pop that are poll worthy? Because I think some of the drummers here aren't as good as some others.
Just my two cents.
It's a series of polls, there will be other drummers better than ones there, and yeah, its rock and metal, not pop punk. :rolleyes:
And maybe there not mainstream enough for you to have heard any.
Anyway, for me, Burr

[Txus]

Lopez FTW, although it was hard to choose between him and Jay Wynne who in my eyes is amazing also.

[Poofy 666]

My Death obsession forces me to vote for Hoglan. Just listening to Dark Angel and Death makes me cream my pants.

[Pnut]

Lopez :thumb:

[eug008]

Martin Lopez followed by Gene Hoglan

[pulseczar]

I don't know any of these drummers. Are there no drummers in any form of pop that are poll worthy? Because I think some of the drummers here aren't as good as some others.

Just my two cents.

Coming from the guy with "eclectic" tastes.

[Kyle]

I voted Cobham.

I hope he gets through, it's tight down there.

[MidnightRider]

Went with Martin Lopez.

[italic zero]

I wanted to vote for José, as he is a very good drummer and doesn't have very many votes... but there was no way to justify going over Cobham, Lopez, and Hoglan.

[erock]

Well, he wouldn't be dominating if he wasn't a great drummer. Understandably, you'll get a few fanboy votes from people who vote for anything to do with their fav band regardless of what it is. But he is a damn good drummer.

Yeah man, I'm listening to Individual Thought Patterns right now and I am BLOWN AWAY by Hoglans playing. I don't think I have heard anything close to this caliber(the only guy that comes to mind is mike portnoy but he doesn't do it the entire song) Lombardo maybe but he can be sloppy live. Hoglan should take this one but if people like lopez better that's the way it goes.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Go Tommy!
Tim got my vote. I figure Cobham will go through.

Contrary to what most people think, Tommy Lee can actually play. He just doesn't play out in Motley Crue.
He plays plenty for the Crüe, just not really on the big singles.

[Moses]

Go Tommy!

He plays plenty for the Crüe, just not really on the big singles.
I mean't he doesn't play out that much, meaning he doesn't really show off.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I'd say he does. He doesn't take solos or anything, except during shows, but his beats are more than often very creative.

[lionelhutz88]

Hoglan ftw

[PinkFreud]

Clive Burr? Over Cobham and Copeland? Please.

[Moses]

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder how he got so many votes also.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Isn't there already like 7 Maiden drummers in the next round already?


Or one or something

[Shadows]

<3 Lopez

[Dave de Sylvia]

I'll be gutted if Copeland doesn't make it :(

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder how he got so many votes also.
Maiden fanboys

[Dragon_Prince]

NExt round we just need to put all the maiden drummers in one poll :P

[Werny]

Gene Hoglan, from what I've heard, is just a show off. I don't find his playing interesting or enjoyable at all. So I voted Lopez.

[comfortably floydian]

where is Nick Mason of pink floyd?

[Kingofdudes]

where is Nick Mason of pink floyd?
In the suckage round?


Seriously, read the ****ing first post

[Collis]

where is Nick Mason of pink floyd?

Did he even get through the qualification rounds? Well, if he did, the last poll is next, so wait ...

[temporary]

How is this happening, Cozzy Powell only has nine votes! Seriously the intro to Stargazer is insane.

Edit: Woah, Tim Alexander has way less votes than I thought he'd have, too. And Clive Burr is much higher than I'd expect (sure he's a fine drummer, but he's got nothing on a lot of the other drummers in this poll...)

[jpshortstuff]

Voted Lopez

[Sleeper]

Jose Pasillas

[Duncster]

OMG if Copeland doesn't get through you can know for sure people here don't know anything 'bout drumming
I know eh, this is completely rediculous :rolleyes:. Most of the drummers there probably wouldn't be on the list if it weren't for him. Most influencial drummer in rock history and hes not in the top 5? Should show this to the drum forum lol.
If you asked any of the drummers on the list who is the best on the list, I'm sure they would all say Copeland. Vinnie Calauita(SP) couldn't even fill his shoes with Sting.
Terrible.

Someone download Walkin on the Moon please?!
Edit: It wouldn't be so weird if this was a fav r&m drummers list, but its the greatest!

[PinkFreud]

I know eh, this is completely rediculous :rolleyes:. Most of the drummers there probably wouldn't be on the list if it weren't for him. Most influencial drummer in rock history and hes not in the top 5? Should show this to the drum forum lol.
If you asked any of the drummers on the list who is the best on the list, I'm sure they would all say Copeland. Vinnie Calauita(SP) couldn't even fill his shoes with Sting.
Terrible.

Someone download Walkin on the Moon please?!
Edit: It wouldn't be so weird if this was a fav r&m drummers list, but its the greatest!
As much as I'd like to see Copeland go through, most influential drummer in rock history is kind of....way off. And Colaiuta filled his shoes more than satisfactorily.

[Dragon_Prince]

@DuncTheToolaphile, not most influential but the best of the poll, I think he is one of the top 10 drummers of the world....

[PinkFreud]

@DuncTheToolaphile, not most influential but the best of the poll, I think he is one of the top 10 drummers of the world....
Eh. Cobham and probably Alexander are just as good and definitely better in a technical sense.

[Dragon_Prince]

No :)

[PinkFreud]

No :)
Er, yeah. Don't try to argue this. Thanks.

[robo2448]

Cobham definitely is. Cobham is one of the best technical drummers in the entire competition. I've only heard 1 Primus song, but judging from that 1 song, Alexander is a great drummer too. Copeland is great and certainly deserves to go on, but he's not the best or most influential.

[spoon_of_grimbo]

id say lopez. its a tough call between his and hoglan, but iv heard more opeth then SYL, so ill go with lopez.

[spoon_of_grimbo]

id say lopez. its a tough call between his and hoglan, but iv heard more opeth then SYL, so ill go with lopez.

[Duncster]

Tim (my fav drummer) wouldn't be doing the **** he is without copelands influence. He's still probably more influencial then any other rock drummers... I can't think of anyone nearily as innovative as him for his time. Not Bonham or Baker or Densmore... maybe Bozzio.
The stuff he did with his hats and kick drum were completely unheard at the time. His lack of mainstream sucess is a little annoying, but he gets enough praise from his successors to make up for it :p

I'm saying most influencial rock drummers... Cobham is a jazz drummer. He has the same sort of influence only towards jazz (mainly jazz fusion).
Edit: Probly shouldn't have said anything about Cobham because I've only seen a video and heard some jazz stuff. Haven't heard any real rock or metal from him at all.

[Duncster]

Not to mention his sidesticking influence! He made sidesticking into an art. A beautiful art. Not to mention his double kick! One of the first drummers to ever except double kick and include it onto his kit. There aren't many less conventional drummers out there. Not to mention his groove. Some of the sting songs have the tightest grooves.
I'm not even a real Sting fan either. :lol:

Sorry for the posts but this poll is pathetic! Not to insult the forum...
I don't know why I care, of course Lopez is gonna be doing better in an R&M forum. But its a greatest drummer poll and Stewart Copeland isn't gonna make it to the second round :lol:!!!!

Edit: Ok... maybe he is!

[PinkFreud]

Not to mention his sidesticking influence! He made sidesticking into an art. A beautiful art. Not to mention his double kick! One of the first drummers to ever except double kick and include it onto his kit. There aren't many less conventional drummers out there. Not to mention his groove. Some of the sting songs have the tightest grooves.
I'm not even a real Sting fan either. :lol:

Sorry for the posts but this poll is pathetic! Not to insult the forum...
I don't know why I care, of course Lopez is gonna be doing better in an R&M forum. But its a greatest drummer poll and Stewart Copeland isn't gonna make it to the second round :lol:!!!!
First of all, I still think you're overrating his influence by a lot. One of the first drummers ever to accept a double kick? The Police debuted in the 1978. Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, Cobham, Carmine Appice, and many more were using double kicks WAY before him. Not to mention that I've never seen a picture of him using a double kick. Maybe you mean double pedal, which I've also never seen or heard him use. Also, it must be noted that Copeland didn't play with Sting. He played with The Police. Colaiuta and countless others drum for Sting's solo career.

I love Copeland, really. But he's far from the most innovative, influential, and technically able drummer on here. This is just a poll, no use getting so upset. People vote by favorites here, if you haven't noticed.

[Duncster]

Shouldn't it be called R&Ms favourite drummer then? Why is it the greatest drummer if people are supposed to vote on who they like more, which could mean picking Dave Grohl over Neil Peart. Yes I meant double pedal. Yes I meant the police. He uses his double pedal extremely suttely in songs like.. Walking on the Moon (only song I've heard it on), for quick doubles n triples.

Edit: About the double pedal I got that based off of an article I read in DrummerWorld, so I don't have many examples to back it up with. In walking on the moon he uses it as a stutter kick. Like what Pourtnoy does in Erotomania.
I'll try and stop editing my posts.:p

[PinkFreud]

Because Greatest is easier? And some people actually make an effort to seperate favorite from greatest.

Edit: I'm also still not hearing the double in Walking On The Moon. Specify what time they're at?

[Seafroggys]

Copeland has influenced my drumming in absolutly no way. Its sad, as even my teacher, who is a jazz drummer, really likes Copeland (and Moon!)

[Duncster]

Gotta goto work, I'll reply to that later. Its VERY suttle. And within the first 2 minutes I think. My drummer was amazed I picked it out at the time.

[White]

Martin Lopez, just because hes gonna win lol.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Go Tommy!

[Kreator2112]

why is tommy lee on this poll? he cant even play the quads.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I'm not really a fan of drum solos tbh, but it seems to be what some people like, so here's on of Tommy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBX8tcGIktk&search=tommy%20lee)

[Hive]

Just a question about this poll series...
Has a poll/will a poll include the drummer from Atomship? That guy is honestly the tightest drummer I have ever heard, and fits really well with the band's sound.
Check out Plastic People and Mothra for those who want a sample.

[guitrguy]

Just a question about this poll series...
Has a poll/will a poll include the drummer from Atomship? That guy is honestly the tightest drummer I have ever heard, and fits really well with the band's sound.
Check out Plastic People and Mothra for those who want a sample.
Chad's really not that famous, which is unfortunate.

[YDload]

Maiden fanboys

I don't think so. I love Maiden but I still voted for Tim Alexander. Nicko is the favorite among most of the forum's die-hard Maiden fans, but either way both of them are extremely talented so just watch it!

[MBS]

Billy Cobham.

[Maggot Dream]

Copeland. Great drummer, and he needs the vote.

[Steerpike]

I held off, and wanted to vote ofr Cozy, but Stewart needed the vote to get through.

[rhcp pman]

Shouldn't it be called R&Ms favourite drummer then? Why is it the greatest drummer if people are supposed to vote on who they like more, which could mean picking Dave Grohl over Neil Peart. Yes I meant double pedal. Yes I meant the police. He uses his double pedal extremely suttely in songs like.. Walking on the Moon (only song I've heard it on), for quick doubles n triples.

Edit: About the double pedal I got that based off of an article I read in DrummerWorld, so I don't have many examples to back it up with. In walking on the moon he uses it as a stutter kick. Like what Pourtnoy does in Erotomania.
I'll try and stop editing my posts.:p
Dude, I love Stewart Copeland (and I like Sting and the Police) - he is an innovative and amazing drummer, and he had a lot of influence on people like Tim Alexander and Mike Portnoy.

I know Copeland is a terrible victim of audiences, in the sense that he's often doing a lot more than it sounds like he's doing and a lot of listeners don't pick up the skill involved. But this happens with other drummers too. A lot of listeners don't know that Nicko is a metal drummer who uses a single bass drum, so that makes his drumwork that much more impressive - but people might not realise this. It's not obvious to everyone how much better Dave Lombardo's bass kick sounds compared to many other drummers - due to his calf muscle technique.

Many people wouldn't pick up the skill in feel/groove involved in Californication's drumming - and there are even some drummers who will claim to be able to play it, but the feel/groove just doesn't sound right - the accents on beats just won't sound right. And I suppose some people might not pick up on Carey's 4 way independence when he uses it. Bonham is underrated because he can naturally attain a nice sound, while some more modern drummers require triggers to get a full sound. Enough examples though...

Stewart Copeland is unquestionably awesome, but to be honest, I think one is justified in voting for other great drummers like Lopez, Hoglan, Alexander and Cobham over Copeland. I certainly wouldn't admonish them for it - I voted for Lopez.

I voted for Nicko in one of the rounds, but I don't think Clive Burr really deserves my vote, despite me being a huge Maiden fan.

Sorry if I got a couple of terms wrong - I don't have a lot of knowledge on drumming.

[Duncster]

Good post pman. So true. Drums are just that kind of instrument. People in general won't pick up on truly great drumming unless it's a speed thing or a solo, or just really in your face. Californications a great example, as is most of Chads work. I never thought he was that good until I started playing bass and learning how to listen to that stuff.

As for the stutter kick I was talking about in Walking on the Moon, it is at about 28 seconds. He is also playing a closed highhat at the same time, which eliminates the possibility of it being a double kick(right?). That just makes it even more astonishing. I can't for the life of me figure out how in hell he did that... seriously! Such amazing drumming in the song.
I've NEVER heard another song where the kick was on the 2 and the 4. Thats why I think he's so great. I love how he makes his sidesticking and highhat echo in the little drum breaks in the song.

[raz0r]

As for the stutter kick I was talking about in Walking on the Moon, it is at about 28 seconds. He is also playing a closed highhat at the same time, which eliminates the possibility of it being a double kick(right?). That just makes it even more astonishing. I can't for the life of me figure out how in hell he did that... seriously! Such amazing drumming in the song.
That could quite easily be a recording glitch, or a small inconsistency in his foot control, buzzing the note into two seperate notes. Eitehr that or he could be using X-Hats, meaning it could be a double pedal.
I've NEVER heard another song where the kick was on the 2 and the 4.
That's not exactly uncommon. I've heard plenty songs with that in them. Waay too many to name.

[heavy metal kid]

Just out of curiosity, have you heard all the drummers in this poll?

Yep, almost all their work and I still think Tim Alexander is better.

[dfcslings]

gene was in dark angel too back in the day, pretty sick thrash band

if u guys didnt kno hes like 300+ pounds, just that alone should make him in the lead but all the damn opeth fanboys :mad:

[guitrguy]

That's really commom*. I've heard plenty songs with that in them. Waay too many to name.
*fix'd

[guitrguy]

gene was in dark angel too back in the day, pretty sick thrash band

if u guys didnt kno hes like 300+ pounds, just that alone should make him in the lead but all the damn opeth fanboys :mad:Listen to Martin's drumming then compare it to other metal drummers. He has much more control than alot of metal drummers. Martin also does not over power everthing with blast beats and over used double bass. His cymbal work is great as well.
He huts them with finesse as opposed to hammering away at the cymbal.

[PinkFreud]

I've really just never been attracted to his playing. Whatever. Next poll will be up tomorrow. I'm too burned out to do it right now.

[Phallus Dei]

Yes! Copeland!

[lost_profits]

My vote went for Cobham.

Does anyone else think Lopez shouldn't really be winning this? He's a good fit for Opeth, but I don't really think he's anything too special. :shrug:

I prefer Lopez over Hoglan any day. I just can't get any feel out of Hoglan's playing. I'm not denying hes good, I just think Lopez's work on tracks like Closure, The Amen Corner, Deliverance have personality of their own.

[spoon_of_grimbo]

of the drummers in this poll whose work i've heard, (which is most of them), i'd have to say that they all have their own distinct style. personally, i find martin lopez' style the most interesting. its distinctive, it compliments the music, its technically but not overbearing, its a trademark of the opeth sound, and like diabolus said, the cymbal work is immense (one particular example that comes to mind is at the beginning of "harlequin forest" off the new album).

this is why i voted for lopez, and why i think the win is deserved. its just a shame that he's having to take time off with all the panic attacks now.

[Serapheus]

of the drummers in this poll whose work i've heard, (which is most of them), i'd have to say that they all have their own distinct style. personally, i find martin lopez' style the most interesting. its distinctive, it compliments the music, its technically but not overbearing, its a trademark of the opeth sound, and like diabolus said, the cymbal work is immense (one particular example that comes to mind is at the beginning of "harlequin forest" off the new album).

This is why i voted for lopez, and why i think the win is deserved. its just a shame that he's having to take time off with all the panic attacks now.

I couldn't agree anymore, one of the reasons I can listen to Opeth repeatedly is too catch all of Lopez's little off-time cymbal hits, his tasty fills and try and air drum to him. He also has the ability to hold a really fast double bass line while playing a slower pattern with his hands (Intro of Master's Apprentices).

[raz0r]

*fix'd
:/


In what way was any part of that sentence "fix'd"

[guitrguy]

:/


In what way was any part of that sentence "fix'd"
Changed the words to say that its really common to have kicks on 2 and 4

[Dave de Sylvia]

Go Tommy!

[Lunch]

Changed the words to say that its really common to have kicks on 2 and 4

Isn't that the same as when he originally said "that's not uncommon"?

[guitrguy]

Isn't that the same as when he originally said "that's not uncommon"?
I just amplified it basically

[PinkFreud]

Go Tommy!
Haha....the poll's over. At least he's not last though!

[Dave de Sylvia]

Haha....the poll's over. At least he's not last though!
This wouldn't have happened at tommylee.tv :(