Need Help With Political Issues...

[~*+|+*~]

Need Help With Political Issues...

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Hello everybody. My band is very similiar to the famed Rage Against The Machine. We play rap/metal or rapcore or whatever you want to call it. The only differences between Rage and us is that: we are not famous, we arn't nearly as good, and most importantly we are Conservatives not Liberals.

Now we need some help for all those who are of either stanidng, please post some political issues that we can sing about. We really could use help and please remind us where each party stand on each issue you post.

We need those ideas so we can write the lyrics to our songs. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you!

[jarviss]

http://www.politics1.com/issues.htm

-G

[Kalvarium]

Well, I am from a different country so dont ask me.
If I were you, I'd discuss something I DO undestand about.

Its like writing a poem with someone elses emotions.
And after all, what one party does might be a good thing to someone and you might find it outrageous.


My piece of advice, if it means anything to you, is look up the coutry's political history, find things that you find appalling or something worth writing about and develop from there. It might take a while at first but will avoid any embarassments as you know what your talking about and theres more passion going on.

Good luck .

[pitchfork]

Just read a newspaper, even i know about american politics and i'm english.

Sing about what you know, as with anything whats the point if it doesn't affect you?
Think about your anger at bush for being such a right wing asshole if you share that view on him thats a start.

[Mispeled]

Gay marriage.

[jarviss]

Gay marriage.

sounds like a proposal
:eek: :wave:

-G

[jarviss]

Well, I am from a different country so dont ask me.
If I were you, I'd discuss something I DO undestand about.
Good luck .

100% great advice...

i mean..you talk about being "like rage against the machine"
but they were 100% behind their feelings adn that emotion came out in their songs...
to try to pretend or push or force somethinjg....may not be as effective.

you gots to believe, brothah!
-G:smoke:

[irtehmitchell]

not only are you republicans, but you don't know why.

[ebv-dave]

Your singer will find it more fulfulling to rap about what he/she actually feels rather than how people's political views on a forum contrast eachother. Plus being like RATM is great, but going out of your way to become a replica of them is abit over the top.

[dirtyp]

that makes no sense at all, if your on some polititcol **** you should knowissues and most importantly have your own stance.(
not only are you republicans, but you don't know why) most of them dont.why else would they beleive in that brainwashed garbage. im not going to waist my time listen to your music cuz i know its a joke by the post you made, if you want to know some rebulican issues think snatching food out of babys mouths,selling your sole to corporations, that will get you started,as far as been like rage there the opposite so i dont understand where you stand











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[Alive]

So if you don't know of any issues, what are you conservative about?

[Aus_rock_god]

Depleted Uranium Shells.

[laduke8908]

NOt to be a broken record but if you write about what you don't believe in than more often than not people will feel the fakeness behind it. Not only that but you'll join the countless bands who speak about politics as a promotional tool, not as a way to educate/tell people about the wrong doings the govt is doing (or it could be praising the way the govt handles a situation). Its all about holding true to yourself, it'll feel better and sound stronger. IF you don't know the issues re examine them, go to google news look at current events, you might just change your mind as to your political affiliation.

[Mispeled]

sounds like a proposal
:eek: :wave:
You seriously wanna get married? <3 :D

[Zero0Bass]

I can almost feel you guys' outrage with the state of society!

Seriously though, if you dont care about politics...dont ****ing sing about politics. Its also kind of pointless (in my humblest of opinions) considering that bands like RATM sang to incite change, whereas you guys would just be calling on people to....do exactly what they're doing already, and for no apparent reason (since you dont know what/why you believe in conservatism).

Sing about **** you care about. Guess that about covers flogging the dead horse that is this thread.

And i just realized that you can't curse in these forums. I've been away too long. Damn you censoring things!

[Magnus55]

Yes, honestly if you need to have other people come up with political issues for you to make music about, then you aren't really political to begin with. You're just a band trying to be political, which makes you a poser. Find a different genre, chances are you'll get ripped to shreds.

...not only are you republicans, but you don't know why) most of them dont.why else would they beleive in that brainwashed garbage...

Oh thats laughable. I suppose saying "I hate the government, it's bad and evil" just because "anarchy" and "rebellion" is the latest punk rock fad, that is somehow less of a brainwashing eh? Please anybody can whine and complain about the issues and criticize the government, when is the last time you did anything remotely signifcant?

You want to know some Republican issues? There are a bunch of very very ignorant people called "democrats" who are currently working on a bill that will get the illegal immigrants who snuck into this country, leech off of welfare, drive on our roads, use our utilities, all the while not paying any taxes-- turned into American citizens. These Democrats can't get American citizens to vote for them, so they need to turn illegal immigrants into voters just to get elected. How pathetic is that?

Oh, and Dirtyp... most rappers try to stay on the beat when they rap, not in between it.

[Jovianknight]

I find your post enraging. Seriously, give up on music. If you need other people to tell you the issues that you will sing about, your music will suck. Like, do you think Zack asked people "hmm, i am a [broad sweeping political generalization], help me think of some issues that relate to this so i can write about them". Write about something you're passionate about. God, you suck.

[~*+|+*~]

Well thanks to all though who actually posted something worthwhile. It helped a bit. We know all of the like politicl views and outlooks of things, however what I should have asked is what rather would you like to hear in a song about? Like which controversial issues...And to Joviant Knight who posted above this ^^^ Why would I quit music when all I was doing was simply asking for some other opinions and suggestions? Besides I would kick your *** at guitar anyday so shut the f*** up.

Thanks for the input so far. :thumb:

[neatobassman]

Well, if you don't know what to sing about. DON'T SING ABOUT IT. If you don't know any issues, you aren't going to know the facts or have an intellegent opinion and there won't be any real meaning. You are being the lowest form of a "poser". Lyrics without real emotions behind it are lame. Sing about stuff you have actual feelings and thoughts about.

[black guy]

Don't be in a political band if you can't even come up with your own issues to sing about. Do something you feel passionate about. God damn.

I find the idea of a conservative rap metal band very entertaining.

[Jovianknight]

WellAnd to Joviant Knight who posted above this ^^^ Why would I quit music when all I was doing was simply asking for some other opinions and suggestions? Besides I would kick your *** at guitar anyday so shut the f*** up.


Hahaha. Oh mercy me, please give up.

[Nicko_Shmicko]

i saw a band called "the rights" they sung a song called "Bush was Right" I thought it was a joke, turns out it was perfectly serious.

[dirtyp]

i do do things im not a whiner and im making a cd about my views without the help of other people. and the ignorant democrats cant pass a bill in congress or senate without the help of ignorent republicans supporting it, and bush was the one that started the guest workers program almost two years ago. and i beleive it was regean that had the amensty program wich made them full citizens. so check the record. and back to the point theres a difference between republicans and conservatives just like theres a difference between democrats and liberals. calling your self conservative far right and not knowing the issuess is retarded. im a liberal i dont support the democratrs on most issuess im a socialist. this year i will try for the second time to get elected to the city council wich doesnt do much for big time politics but its my steeping stone, last year i was 70 signatures short of being on the ballot and i already have enough for this year so will see what the voters think

[Zero0Bass]

i know literacy tests have been outlawed for voting...but can we please bring them back as a prerequisite to running for office?

come on, people.

[pitchfork]

i saw a band called "the rights" they sung a song called "Bush was Right" I thought it was a joke, turns out it was perfectly serious.
Should've jumped on stage and started pummeling them for being commies.

[dirtyp]

that wouldnt work bush cant speak or write

[Mispeled]

that wouldnt work bush cant speak or write
Does a Bachelors in History from Yale count?

[dirtyp]

my city was the one that made it legal to take ones property and sell it to the highest bidder. it was a 5 to 4 vote on the city council and supreme court wich made it a federal law, this is a more important issue then your pettines. they tore down 70 homes to build a hotel and museam, 5 years later they cancelled the hotel and they might build the other project. 70 people lost there homes to corporate greed that had a bad plan that didnt work out, now they can come for your house and there doing in nationaly now

[Semple]

The thing that made Rage so good is that they knew what they were talking about, and they felt very, very strongly about it by nature.


If you actually have to ask for issues to write on, you might be biting off a bit more than you can chew.


I'm not trying to offend you, here, or anything, but it's the truth. You should be trying to make people feel the same way you feel when you listen to Rage, when people are listening to you. If these political issues aren't burning a hole in you, then you shouldn't be trying to write about them.


Good luck.

[~*+|+*~]

:chug: well I'll work on it...like you guys all suggested..."Sing about what we have emotions about and what we know about" that sounds good to me...
You've all been great help!

[Linkinbassist]

:chug: well I'll work on it...like you guys all suggested..."Sing about what we have emotions about and what we know about" that sounds good to me...
You've all been great help!

...how?! they just ripped you to ****!!

[DillingerEscp]

Its funny, I was just thinking about rage today... They were communists (absolute morons) anti capitalism, anti corporation, yet they were signed to a major label and probably made some big wig fat cat rich as hell off of every radioplay, concert ticket, and CD they sold.
One word for allll politically liberal bands today:
GIMMICK

Green day makes me sick, I would love to debate them, they can hide behind a sea of fans to not answer to an intelligent question, but if they couldnt do that, id take them out in the forum of ideas in a heartbeat...

God, liberal bands are obnoxious...

But if you guys claim to be conservative, yet do not know of any issues today... how can you say youre conservative/politically active at all ? If you dont know any issues, then obviously politics doesnt mean that much to you.

[DillingerEscp]

that wouldnt work bush cant speak or write

I sense that someone is in a dire need for a grammar lesson.

[gaslight]

"Of" a grammar lesson.

[Phototropic]

Don't be in a political band if you can't even come up with your own issues to sing about. Do something you feel passionate about. God damn.

I find the idea of a conservative rap metal band very entertaining.

I was about to type something like this

Its like me wanting to write James Blunt style cack but asking other people for stories about how they feel after relationships

Get your own experiences and write about them man, don't ask other people to do your work

[headshrinker]

LOL the American goverment is a joke, and ashamed to be British with our Tone licking Georges *** everytime he says somthing. Somebody needs sorting out! No offence to americans, they them selfs are nice ppl alot of my familly live in the states!

[~*+|+*~]

alrighty then...i guess we will just be ourselves! Thanks!

[Zero0Bass]

I sense that someone is in a dire need for a grammar lesson.

yeah i was making fun of dirtyp with my previous comment. he thought i was talking about bush.

i wouldn't waste my time with bush. dirtyp on the other hand...now theres a joke ripe for the taking.

[dirtyp]

the jokes on you.. you cant talk bout someones grammar then make a grammar mistake that would be hypocrtitical..... and I was responding to you that if bush cant speak in full sentences on tv in front of millions, I dont have to take my time with my writing for a few bums

[faithr]

This is a riot from begining to end....It shows the state of our nation people choosing sides not knowing what side there on or why. And Rage were far from communist you must be realy old to repeat that ww2 rhetoric. The fact of you thinking green day is politicol is laughable, And bands arent going politicol for fame its the opposite.

[Mispeled]

Green Day doesn't sing about politics, they sing about social issues. Those are two very different things.

I was responding to you that if bush cant speak in full sentences on tv in front of millions
"Is our children learning?" is technically a complete sentence, despite redneck accent. :p


Anyway, ~*+|+*~, good luck with your band.

[faithr]

what about putting our familys on the table.

[dirtyp]

I remember that too, He was talking about how its hard to put food on the table.. I guess he wants us to eat our family

[~*+|+*~]

Anyway, ~*+|+*~, good luck with your band.

thanx mate! :chug:

[Magnus55]

Its funny, I was just thinking about rage today... They were communists (absolute morons) anti capitalism, anti corporation, yet they were signed to a major label and probably made some big wig fat cat rich as hell off of every radioplay, concert ticket, and CD they sold.
One word for allll politically liberal bands today:
GIMMICK

Green day makes me sick, I would love to debate them, they can hide behind a sea of fans to not answer to an intelligent question, but if they couldnt do that, id take them out in the forum of ideas in a heartbeat...

God, liberal bands are obnoxious...

But if you guys claim to be conservative, yet do not know of any issues today... how can you say youre conservative/politically active at all ? If you dont know any issues, then obviously politics doesnt mean that much to you.

Hear Hear! Finally someone with some sense. :)

Oh and "faithr" = "Dirtyp". He's a loser like that who needs to back himself up with a second account because no one in real life will.

[Nicko_Shmicko]

Besides I would kick your *** at guitar anyday so shut the **** up

your very modest, and also intelligent. Do you? really want to write songs about political views that arnt your own? Note sarcasm in first sentence, judging by your inteligence so far, you might not have noticed it.

[Phototropic]

Well thanks to all though who actually posted something worthwhile. It helped a bit. We know all of the like politicl views and outlooks of things, however what I should have asked is what rather would you like to hear in a song about? Like which controversial issues...And to Joviant Knight who posted above this ^^^ Why would I quit music when all I was doing was simply asking for some other opinions and suggestions? Besides I would kick your *** at guitar anyday so shut the f*** up.

Thanks for the input so far. :thumb:

Somehow I highly doubt this if you have the immaturity to come in here and ask us to write your songs for you, plus its completely irrelevant to what the thread is about

Deflate your ego?

[Magnus55]

Yes ~*+|+*~, that's quite the powerful boast considering you don't know how well any of us play. Lets see it then. Post some of your guitar work up.

[faithr]

Hey asshole im a girl check the link I posted, Theres 3 songs on it.. I know hes far more talented then you but I dont know how he could switch his voice