going wireless

[simpsonsboy1716]

im going for a wireless does it matter if its bass or guitar or not? i was hoping to spend under 100 so if i dont like it it wasnt a waste. and im not a professional just a hobbyist so i dont really want to spend a lot of money on it.

thanks! :thumb:

[Chris K]

it's a waste if you're not a big pro. They're a waste for small players.

[Thonk]

From what i've heard, if you go wireless, you better look to spend a lot of money to get a good one.

[ViolenceBass]

My friends neighbor gave him one for free, it belonged to her husband, who was cheating on her. But I agree, unless you get one by chance, it is a waste if your playing something that a chord could easily give the same legroom.

[shacklecrow]

no matter how good the wireless system is, decent cables will beat it because your going to lose some signal just from the data being sent across air, so unless you need one due to moving round loads and your lead becoming lose and falling out or some other reason i wouldnt buy one.
Then again thats just my view, and its up to you :thumb:

[Untitled]

ANything under 100 will proberly be crap.

you need to spend at least 200 on one.

I agree you dont need one unless you're pro, but other wise check out Shure, there the only one i know that make good ones, i forget the other good companeys. But you wont get any of them for less then 200

[Son of Magni]

no matter how good the wireless system is, decent cables will beat it because your going to lose some signal just from the data being sent across air, so unless you need one due to moving round loads and your lead becoming lose and falling out or some other reason i wouldnt buy one.
Then again thats just my view, and its up to you :thumb:
I have to completely disagree with that. A *good* wireless has almost no detrimental effect on the signal. Whereas no matter how good a cable you get, if your cable is more than maybe 6 feet long the capacitance and inductance is killing your sound on a passive bass (not to mention transmission line effect). If you're active you can get away with maybe 12 feet. But I like to use a 20 foot cord when I was using one, and I think most people do. Which means, for me, wireless is an improvement.

[Radiobass81]

From what I've heard, the $50 Nadys are alright but are very fragile.

The Samson, which is $100 I think, is very reliable and sounds ace. I'm planning on getting it.

[Worrpigs]

i would wait for a better wireless than one that costs under 100 dollers, it will run on VHF frequencies and youll get alot of interuption. I have one a UHF, which is less cluttered, and I never use it, theres no use unless your on a gigantic stage where a cable will not cut it. Plus, cheap wireless units kill your signal, good wireless units are much more friendly to the tone you have set.

[Radiobass81]

I just want a wireless to stop having to buy cables...

[Rawb]

I just want a wireless to stop having to buy cables...

Strange, I've had the same set of cable for three years now.

[Radiobass81]

Strange, I've had the same set of cable for three years now.
Longest I've had a cable is a bit more than half a year. Monster Cable, I think it was.

This Radioschack cable is doing me good, though. The expensive one sucks, though.

[neatobassman]

it's a waste if you're not a big pro. They're a waste for small players.

I wouldn't say that. Last night at a show we did I stepped on my chord like 5 times and almost fell. It's useful not having it there.

[Akira]

I think that buying a wireless system under $100 is a really risky idea. I mean it could be okay, but it may very well be bad.

I am sort of interested in a wireless system, but last time I went to GC to look at them the guy at the counter told me that there really isn't such thing as a bass-specific wireless system, and that any one would work. I politely said I would consider it and walked away, knowing damn well there are bass-specific systems and not all guitar systems can handle the low frequencies.

And Chris K, I disagree. I am active when I play, and while length isn't an issue with cords, the fact that I will twist them around is.

[Rawb]

Longest I've had a cable is a bit more than half a year. Monster Cable, I think it was.

This Radioschack cable is doing me good, though. The expensive one sucks, though.

lol. yeah, the only practical way for preserving cables i guess is basically to take care of them. Don't step on them, roll them up nice 'n neatly, etc. :thumb:

But simpsonboy, I wouldn't go for wireless. It really isn't worth it. I suggest getting a longer cable, like maybe a 20 or 30 footer.

[Radiobass81]

lol. yeah, the only practical way for preserving cables i guess is basically to take care of them. Don't step on them, roll them up nice 'n neatly, etc. :thumb:
I take care of them nicely. I (and all my other friends) wonder how I am able to ruin them all :upset:.

[neatobassman]

I am sort of interested in a wireless system, but last time I went to GC to look at them the guy at the counter told me that there really isn't such thing as a bass-specific wireless system, and that any one would work. I politely said I would consider it and walked away, knowing damn well there are bass-specific systems and not all guitar systems can handle the low frequencies.

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I hate it when guys at Guitar Center don't know what they are talking about. lol. Some guy did that to me about some 1-Spot adaptors.

[nopicks4me]

i was lookin at sennheiser wirless systems for my bass. like the $800 ones on musiciansfriend. and i found that on ebay they are about half price brand new sometimes. idk if there are any now but its worth a try and that would be a steal. i was gonna get the "Sennheiser EW 172 G2 Instrument Wireless System" for about $450 i think. that was like 6 months ago. but i bought put my money towads a new bass instead.

[Akira]

I hate it when guys at Guitar Center don't know what they are talking about. lol. Some guy did that to me about some 1-Spot adaptors.
Yeah.
Guitar Center employees are generally really nice, but they aren't always the most knowledgeable.
But I can't be too mean, because I have had some people really help me out at GC.

[Thonk]

lol. yeah, the only practical way for preserving cables i guess is basically to take care of them. Don't step on them, roll them up nice 'n neatly, etc. :thumb:

But simpsonboy, I wouldn't go for wireless. It really isn't worth it. I suggest getting a longer cable, like maybe a 20 or 30 footer.
As SoM said, I think otherwise.

The longer the signal has to travel, the more it looses. Thus making a good wireless system better.

[neatobassman]

As SoM said, I think otherwise.

The longer the signal has to travel, the more it looses. Thus making a good wireless system better.

The thought of a longer signal path is very appliable while recording, but in a show situation it really doesn't matter unfortunately. During a show, those little details you put in your tone don't come through if you're miced. Like last night I just went through a Fender B25 and a SWR LA 15 and got a better tone than a guy who was playing through a Trace Eliot, some power amp and a Mesa 4x10. The bulk of your tone will be produced through a PA, but the little things, like having a shorter signal path, don't really matter.

[Son of Magni]

The thought of a longer signal path is very appliable while recording, but in a show situation it really doesn't matter unfortunately. During a show, those little details you put in your tone don't come through if you're miced. Like last night I just went through a Fender B25 and a SWR LA 15 and got a better tone than a guy who was playing through a Trace Eliot, some power amp and a Mesa 4x10. The bulk of your tone will be produced through a PA, but the little things, like having a shorter signal path, don't really matter.
So according to this theory, an Alembic, a Pedulla, a Sadowsky, and a Peavey will all sound the same anyways?

Some would argue that you should keep the best sound possible every step of the way.

[neatobassman]

So according to this theory, an Alembic, a Pedulla, a Sadowsky, and a Peavey will all sound the same anyways?

Some would argue that you should keep the best sound possible every step of the way.

With those basses, they all have different basic sounds. lol. Like I said, your basic tone will get through, but little things like how long your chord is don't matter. That's just my opinion.

[Son of Magni]

With those basses, they all have different basic sounds. lol. Like I said, your basic tone will get through, but little things like how long your chord is don't matter. That's just my opinion.
I know, I'm just being a pain in the a$$. But still, you will lose some of the character of your tone, especially in the higher frequencies, and the longer your cord is the worse it is. Sure the PA colors your sound. But that doesn't mean you should give up on tone right from the start.

[neatobassman]

I know, I'm just being a pain in the a$$. But still, you will lose some of the character of your tone, especially in the higher frequencies, and the longer your cord is the worse it is. Sure the PA colors your sound. But that doesn't mean you should give up on tone right from the start.

It does, but I don't think enough to really matter in a live situation. While recording, hell yea it matters though. lol. I'm done.

[PERFECTXDARK]

:angry:Yeah.
Guitar Center employees are generally really nice, but they aren't always the most knowledgeable.
But I can't be too mean, because I have had some people really help me out at GC.
Funny story,walked into GC looking for Music Books,went to the Scores and was browsing and this sales clerk was just walking in circles behind me and I said excuse me do you have any books on Jaco and he says "who" and I said Jaco Pastorious and he said oh I dont work in this department and walked away and then i went to the main desk to ask...and ooh was this the best...i asked if they had any jaco books and they said they didnt know who he was ...:confused: made me sad....and after all that there was like 3 diff jaco books lol.

/ends rant.

[slavanotas]

lol. yeah, the only practical way for preserving cables i guess is basically to take care of them. Don't step on them, roll them up nice 'n neatly, etc. :thumb:.

really good idea :chug:
In our band we set one rule - to kick:smash: anyone who step on cable.
It works :thumb:

[tim_commerfordism]

You don't need them tbh.

I mean IIRC Tim Commerford/Tom Morello didn't use them in RATM - see Grand Olympic Auditorium. I may be wrong, but im about 60% correct.

I want one, cables DO get in the way.
1 of my cables that I still use is nearly 2 years old now. I resoldered it when I broke it, once.