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British Kid
04-18-2006, 05:08 PM
I recently realized that I am in need of a better rig. Recently, i've been spending money on basses when I realized that i really need more power and tone for playing. Right now, i'm considering this plan:
Sell Ampeg 8x10 (i love it, but it's just huge) for ~$700
buy used Ampeg 410HLF cab (local classifieds) ~$300 (probably less, he's willing to negotiate)
*unsure of order for the next two*
buy used Ampeg SVT-3Pro (local classifieds again) for ~$600 (once again, negotiable)
Sell my other crap, most of which, i've been trying to sell for months which consists of: Ampeg Portabass 2x10 cab, Ampeg BA-115AV combo amp, Traynor YBA200 Bassmaster amp, and a Crate BXH-220.
this is an attractive deal for me, since i love ampeg tone, and the prices seem right. however, with the Ampeg SVT410HLF i'd be unable to use another cab, since it is a 4ohm cab and the SVT-3Pro doesn't handle anything less than 4 ohms. With this cab, would i even need another 4x10 or 1x15 cab to get a decent variety of tones and power/loudness/volume?
hellonearth07
04-18-2006, 08:32 PM
i think i seen somethin around on the internet of a way to bridge 2 amps in a way to get the same ohms that each posses... ie 2 cabs, 4 ohms each, run into this hub( i have to see if i can find it) and then into the head, and 4 ohms is fed into each cab....
i have to see if that hub would actually work and were i found it. When i do i'll post a link
i think i seen somethin around on the internet of a way to bridge 2 amps in a way to get the same ohms that each posses... ie 2 cabs, 4 ohms each, run into this hub( i have to see if i can find it) and then into the head, and 4 ohms is fed into each cab....
i have to see if that hub would actually work and were i found it. When i do i'll post a link
It wouldnt work. You cant make impedence dissappear like that.
I think.
/Shoots flashlight with "EDGE"on it at the sky
hellonearth07
04-18-2006, 08:42 PM
its series-parallel wiring....
i'm still tryin to figure out the schematic for the hub to do that tho, still looking for the link too
Radiobass81
04-18-2006, 08:44 PM
Seriously, does it ALL have to be Ampeg? The head I understand, but just look for the most transparent-sounding cabs you can find, so the tone comes from the head, and you'd save a ton. Ampeg isn't cheap.
Isn't the Sansamp made to replicate an SVT? You could get that and add a power-amp, to save some money, if not.
hellonearth07
04-18-2006, 09:05 PM
:upset:.... i cant find that schem anymore.... but i know it'll work, it works off the basses of series-parallel wiring somehow tho. not sure on what that is, google it, i dont feel like explaining
SLKBassist
04-18-2006, 09:13 PM
Seriously, does it ALL have to be Ampeg? The head I understand, but just look for the most transparent-sounding cabs you can find, so the tone comes from the head, and you'd save a ton. Ampeg isn't cheap.
Isn't the Sansamp made to replicate an SVT? You could get that and add a power-amp, to save some money, if not.
123. Or get the Ampeg SVP (the ampeg pre version of the svt) and a cheaper poweramp
British Kid
04-18-2006, 09:28 PM
Seriously, does it ALL have to be Ampeg? The head I understand, but just look for the most transparent-sounding cabs you can find, so the tone comes from the head, and you'd save a ton. Ampeg isn't cheap.
Isn't the Sansamp made to replicate an SVT? You could get that and add a power-amp, to save some money, if not.
no, it doesn't all need to be ampeg, but that's what i can get used. Any new stuff is gonna cost more.... more cost = bad (in my case).
British Kid
04-19-2006, 06:46 AM
*bump*
Radiobass81
04-19-2006, 06:14 PM
no, it doesn't all need to be ampeg, but that's what i can get used. Any new stuff is gonna cost more.... more cost = bad (in my case).
You could just get the stuff I mentioned used.
I see tons of Sansamp for sale in Talkbass and all. Besides, even if you get it new, you'd stil lsabe money, maybe.
Wintermute
04-19-2006, 06:16 PM
i think i seen somethin around on the internet of a way to bridge 2 amps in a way to get the same ohms that each posses... ie 2 cabs, 4 ohms each, run into this hub( i have to see if i can find it) and then into the head, and 4 ohms is fed into each cab....
i have to see if that hub would actually work and were i found it. When i do i'll post a link
Not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but the idea of feeding 4 ohms into a cab is basically gibberish.
British Kid
04-19-2006, 07:16 PM
Not entirely sure what you're trying to say, but the idea of feeding 4 ohms into a cab is basically gibberish.
yeah, i don't get this... i googled it, but all i found were series/parrallel diagrams for wiring speakers... nothing about a "hub".... :confused:
British Kid
04-20-2006, 06:58 AM
*bump*
thelowsoundofbass
04-20-2006, 07:43 AM
The wireing of two 4 ohm cabs together and still having them at 4 ohms is impossable. The only way to have two 4 ohm cabs, run them together through a 4 ohm head and still have them running at 4 ohms if to run each through a different channal. Now maybe if you could make a channal splitter you could do it.
lowsound
British Kid
04-20-2006, 07:46 PM
eh, sounds like too much work. I guess that the SVT410HLF with the SVT3-Pro would probably be fine, as all the reviews i've read from people that used that setup had plenty of power and volume.
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