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The_Riddler
04-04-2006, 05:33 PM
As most of you know, Lacuna Coil came out with a new album today entitled Karmacode. I am halfway through with listening to it now, and I have to say it's quite a good cd. It hasn't changed much from their last release, it's a bit heavier at least in my opinion, with the guitars.

Anyway, what is everyones opinion on this fronted females band or their newly released cd?

GenuineImitation
04-04-2006, 05:35 PM
I was never a big fan, but over the past few months, I have found myself enjoying their music more and more. I plan on getting this cd some time soon.

Crysiss
04-04-2006, 06:01 PM
What can I say, The only songs Ive heard from them is Heavens A Lie, Fallen and Our Truth.
They're pretty good.

I'm Charming
04-04-2006, 06:47 PM
I disagree with every word the TS said.


I've been listening to Karmacode since it was leaked.

It has several tracks that are excellent. The first three. Once you get past those, it's awful.

The guitars and bass are lackluster and dominate the music. Christina's voice takes a back seat and the guy sings more than her.
The vocals harmonies are missing.

It's nothing like Comalies, which wasn't great. The great vocals saved it.

1. EP
2. Half Life
3. In A Reverie
4. Unleashed Memories
5. Comalies
6. Karmacode

Ghoul Hunter
04-04-2006, 06:50 PM
Hmm, more guy vocals, it may be worth a listen.

Crysiss
04-04-2006, 06:56 PM
Sounds like you dont enjoy female vocals too much lol. I dont either but sometimes it can sound good in the right places.

King_Of_Terrors
04-04-2006, 07:01 PM
I didn't know it came out today...I thought it was out for awhile. Must be the leaked one the that the guy is talking about. I liked Comalies, Swamped is a sweet song. I am probably going to get this one soon.

Ghoul Hunter
04-04-2006, 07:02 PM
I really can't stand any of them, heh.

Crysiss
04-04-2006, 07:04 PM
The girls that scream can sound too whiny. Like Kittie, Flyleaf. But Angela from Arch Enemy has got the worst voice ever, I wonder how she would sound if she'd sing for real.

Cristina sounds much better then them IMO. Way hotter too :D

Invicta_Veritas
04-04-2006, 07:35 PM
The girls that scream can sound too whiny. Like Kittie, Flyleaf. But Angela from Arch Enemy has got the worst voice ever, I wonder how she would sound if she'd sing for real.

Cristina sounds much better then them IMO. Way hotter too :D

1. You my friend, are either on crack, or have never heard Arch Enemy.
2. You can't compare Scabbia's vocals to thiers realistically.....they are two completely different styles. Angela and Christina are both excellent at thier respective style.

Anyway, i love Lacuna Coil; haven't checked out the new cd yet but I will here soon.

I don't know about more male vocals though; thier male singer is quite terrible.

I'm Charming
04-04-2006, 07:55 PM
Swamped is a sweet song. I am probably going to get this one soon.

Ehh. It's okay.

I just laugh when a song says,

"when you're taught through feelings"

over and over.
lawl.

Shattered_Future
04-04-2006, 08:03 PM
Swamped I can't stand. Rather poor, really.

Good band though. What they lack in technical ability, they make up for in catchiness. I find them a good band when you don't really want to listen to something crazy technical, just kick back with some good music that you don't need to concentrate on much. In a good way, mind you.

I thought Karmacode was...different. It's best and worst point of it is the simplicity. It's irresistably catchy, but they turned into a nu-metal group, which, while not a bad thing, makes them a bit more generic sounding than what we're originally accustomed to.

That being said, the vocals are at their peak here (hooray for layering), the synth loops now actually use synths instead of just instruments the rest of the band doesn't play, and there's tons of ethnic-y sounding riffs, which is always a plus in my book.

The vocal harmonies are listening? Dude, are you goddamn deaf? There's TONS of harmonies on here, more so than any other release. The amount of vocals going on in the tracks are sometimes 4+.

Crysiss
04-04-2006, 08:04 PM
1. You my friend, are either on crack, or have never heard Arch Enemy.
2. You can't compare Scabbia's vocals to thiers realistically.....they are two completely different styles. Angela and Christina are both excellent at thier respective style.

Anyway, i love Lacuna Coil; haven't checked out the new cd yet but I will here soon.

I don't know about more male vocals though; thier male singer is quite terrible.

No, I am not on crack. Dont get me wrong, I buy Arch Enemy CDs and listen to them but the vocals just sound really bad.
I also realize it was bad to overemphasize my perspective.

And yes, the male vocals in Lacuna Coil aren't the best.

I'm Charming
04-04-2006, 08:08 PM
The vocal harmonies are listening? Dude, are you goddamn deaf? There's TONS of harmonies on here, more so than any other release. The amount of vocals going on in the tracks are sometimes 4+.

Ummmmm. Compared to previous releases and it isn't ****.

You need to come down off your fanboyism for female vocalists.

You're the only one I've heard speak highly of the vocals on this album and I've talked to plenty of people about it.

Shattered_Future
04-04-2006, 08:13 PM
No, I am not on crack. Dont get me wrong, I buy Arch Enemy CDs and listen to them but the vocals just sound really bad.
I also realize it was bad to overemphasize my perspective.

And yes, the male vocals in Lacuna Coil aren't the best.

Dude, Arch Enemy doesn't belong in a Lacuna Coil thread though. There's literally no comparisn.

Charming, if you listen to the vocals on the other albums, at most they only had one Cristina and one Andi singing together. This album, they layer the vocals a ridiculous amount, often to the point of 3 of each at certain parts. There's usually both of them singing at the same time.

And where the hell did you get my rampant fanboyism for female vocals from here? I said they were one of the better parts of the album, not OMG THESE ARE THE BEST EVER!!!1!1!ONE1!! I'll be the first to admit Cristina is generic to the max, and is by far not one of the best female vocalists out there. What she has is a catchy voice that's fun to listen to. Just like this band. They're catchy...they aren't going to win any awards for best songwriting ability, or most technicality. They're catchy, and they do what they do well.

So, in short, you lose. Have a nice day. :thumb:

Crysiss
04-04-2006, 08:19 PM
Shattered, I was making comparisons of other well known frontwoman, And I just defended myself after a blatant statement. My statement.

So how did everyone like Our Truth? It was quite a good track for something I heard on Faction.

I'm Charming
04-04-2006, 08:20 PM
Charming, if you listen to the vocals on the other albums, at most they only had one Cristina and one Andi singing together. This album, they layer the vocals a ridiculous amount, often to the point of 3 of each at certain parts. There's usually both of them singing at the same time.

And where the hell did you get my rampant fanboyism for female vocals from here? I said they were one of the better parts of the album, not OMG THESE ARE THE BEST EVER!!!1!1!ONE1!! I'll be the first to admit Cristina is generic to the max, and is by far the best female vocalist out there. What she has is a catchy voice that's fun to listen to. Just like this band. They're catchy...they aren't going to win any awards for best songwriting ability, or most technicality. They're catchy, and they do what they do well.

So, in short, you lose. Have a nice day. :thumb:


lawl. I can't stand the new album at all. Their guitars and bass are so lackluster I laugh.
She has an extremely beautiful voice, too bad she doesn't have a more skilled band around her.
Don't get the wrong idea, I love LC. I'm just not blinded by my fanboyism towards them.

Det_Nosnip
04-04-2006, 08:35 PM
I'll be the first to admit Cristina is generic to the max, and is by far the best female vocalist out there.

I'm assuming that you meant "is by far NOT the best female vocalist out there"?

Shattered_Future
04-04-2006, 08:36 PM
Shattered, I was making comparisons of other well known frontwoman, And I just defended myself after a blatant statement. My statement.

So how did everyone like Our Truth? It was quite a good track for something I heard on Faction.

Our Truth is decent, but hardly one of the best on the album, I thought...

Blinded by my fanboyism? Again, I said the band isn't going to win any awards for greatness...they aren't the single greatest band on the face of the Earth. They're a good band, is all. If you can't accept that I have an affinity for them, go ahead. My opinions are mine, yours are yours.

EDIT: Dammit. Thanks for that save Ted. :thumb:

Nepenthe
04-04-2006, 09:38 PM
I'll be seeing Lacuna Coil in a few months. They are going to be with Rob Zombie and Bullet For My Valentine (yuck).

I'm Charming
04-04-2006, 10:15 PM
Our Truth is decent, but hardly one of the best on the album, I thought...

Blinded by my fanboyism? Again, I said the band isn't going to win any awards for greatness...they aren't the single greatest band on the face of the Earth. They're a good band, is all. If you can't accept that I have an affinity for them, go ahead. My opinions are mine, yours are yours.

EDIT: Dammit. Thanks for that save Ted. :thumb:


Our Truth is the best song by far.

To: Black Wizard, I think both Rob Zombie and Bullet are awful. Lacuna is good live though, I've watched live videos on youtube. Christina Scabbia sings really well live.

Mr. Ron
04-04-2006, 10:18 PM
I enjoy some of their songs. Especially the female vocals.

HAIL TRUE METAL
04-04-2006, 10:42 PM
i dont really like the band though i find some of their stuff good. anyone gona see them at ozzfest?

Nepenthe
04-04-2006, 11:28 PM
Our Truth is the best song by far.

To: Black Wizard, I think both Rob Zombie and Bullet are awful. Lacuna is good live though, I've watched live videos on youtube. Christina Scabbia sings really well live.

Yeah I enjoy Lacuna and am excited about seeing them. I happen to like Zombie as well. But Bullet...eh, at least they don't make me vomit.

I'm Charming
04-05-2006, 12:46 AM
Yeah I enjoy Lacuna and am excited about seeing them. I happen to like Zombie as well. But Bullet...eh, at least they don't make me vomit.

I'm with you on bullet. I can't stand them.


Rob Zombie, ehh. I've always been very mixed about him.
Musically it never grabbed me nor lyrically. His whole "shockrock" thing seems rather childish too me. Meh. Maybe I'm just to serious. :p
He does have a few catchy tunes though, I give him that. He's also a very smart and nice guy.

Invicta_Veritas
04-05-2006, 01:24 AM
Catchy does not equal talent.
"Shock Rock" is a glorified term for modern mainstream industrial rock aimed at Junior High and High school kids, and to make it sound like something new and original.

White Zombie is okay. Rob's solo work is uninventive, unoriginal, and quite uninspiring........

I'm Charming
04-05-2006, 01:38 AM
Catchy does not equal talent.
"Shock Rock" is a glorified term for modern mainstream industrial rock aimed at Junior High and High school kids, and to make it sound like something new and original.

White Zombie is okay. Rob's solo work is uninventive, unoriginal, and quite uninspiring........


I know that and agree with you 100%.

Invicta_Veritas
04-05-2006, 08:51 AM
^^^^Awesome. Glad someone agrees.......
I mean he's an awesome person with a great vision, but I just really, really wouldn't choose to listen to him when I'm writing music for my band :lol:

Kurrpt
04-05-2006, 09:52 AM
i saw their ad in the guitar world. Fukker uses the same guitar i have (SRC sig 7 string)


can some upload some of this? Id love to check it out

Iron Bars
04-05-2006, 10:24 AM
I thought the new album wasn't as good as the previous one. The vocals are one of the better things on it. The layering is still as great as ever but I don't like the new guitar sound they use (though Comalies sound was much better).

Shattered_Future
04-05-2006, 01:47 PM
The guitars are kinda lame in this release, yes...

Che, you can find some stuff on Century Media's official website.

circlethedrain
04-05-2006, 01:54 PM
the cd was dissapointing i would give it like a c+ cause there was a few stand out tracks but nothing overly special.

LegionsofMarduk
04-05-2006, 01:59 PM
I didn't know they were coming out with a new cd. I like a few of their songs. I've actually got a few of their albums, but none of them are in very frequent stereo rotation.

Kurrpt
04-05-2006, 02:03 PM
The guitars are kinda lame in this release, yes...

Che, you can find some stuff on Century Media's official website.


Century Media eh.....?




/checks

Nepenthe
04-05-2006, 04:08 PM
Catchy does not equal talent.
"Shock Rock" is a glorified term for modern mainstream industrial rock aimed at Junior High and High school kids, and to make it sound like something new and original.

White Zombie is okay. Rob's solo work is uninventive, unoriginal, and quite uninspiring........

White Zombie easily beats Rob's stuff. That's a given. As far as Rob's stuff being unoriginal, yeah I'll definately agree, but that doesn't mean it's not some pretty enjoyable music to listen to.

Anyways, anyone else seen Lacuna Coil live?

circlethedrain
04-05-2006, 04:10 PM
i hope to see them live this summer, though i hope they only play two songs off their new cd: Within Me, and What I see though they will prolly have to play The Truth. =[

I'm Charming
04-05-2006, 04:12 PM
i hope to see them live this summer, though i hope they only play two songs off their new cd: Within Me, and What I see though they will prolly have to play The Truth. =[


Our Truth. ftr.

Within Me was one of the worst songs on the album.

circlethedrain
04-05-2006, 05:02 PM
Our Truth. ftr.

Within Me was one of the worst songs on the album.


Well, if i can't remember the name of the song then it can't be worth remembering. I like Within Me i can't help it.... :angry:

I'm Charming
04-05-2006, 05:06 PM
Well, if i can't remember the name of the song then it can't be worth remembering. I like Within Me i can't help it.... :angry:

Hopefully they play older stuff.