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sixner
04-03-2006, 12:14 PM
So i've got a project to do in Music Theory II. (which is more like music history)... im the only person in the class NOT in the school band, so i know the least about most of the stuff we talk about... We have to pick a composer and do a full report on them.. The catch is, it cant be one we've already talked about... which is just about every major composer up to about 1900... rules out Beethoven, Bach, Tchaikovski, mahler, ect....
I dont really know any composers, so i was hoping one of you might have a suggestion for one... If you give me a name i'll double check my notes to see if im able or not... Any help is appreciated
bass related now - good tapping song reccomendations... stu hamm aside, and no more than 5 strings.
-Sixner
Left Shoe
04-03-2006, 12:33 PM
jack stamp, andrew boysen jr, pavel tschenokoff, mark camphouse, yasuhide ito, brian balmages, thomas ruedi , and frank ticheli (do ticheli, hes amazing)
EDIT: john barnes chance wrote Incantation and Dance, hes also amazing
EDIT: dana wilson, a very weird composer right there
EDIT #3: ernesto cavallini wrote my favorite clarinet solo (adagio - tarantella)
EDIT #4: Krzysztof Penderecki, would be a very good choice for this one, hes pretty revolutionary
sixner
04-03-2006, 12:37 PM
i'll look them up when i get home, thanks!
-sixner
AlmightyPancake
04-03-2006, 12:57 PM
John Cage. He revolutionized composition by popularizing chance in music as well as just composing some crazy stuff. 4:33...
darrell
04-03-2006, 01:10 PM
John Cage. He revolutionized composition by popularizing chance in music as well as just composing some crazy stuff. 4:33...
How did that go again?
*silence*
Oh. :thumb:
If I were you, I would choose it on a more famous composer that you haven't covered. John Cage is pretty good... but I'd stick to Romantic. Have you covered Chopin? Liszt? Berlioz? Schubert? Schumann? Wagner?
If it were me, I think I would do it on Niccolò Paganini. He's a virtuoso violinist. There are some awesome stories about how he would file down his strings on his violin so that they would be on the edge of breaking. Then during shows he would break them on purpose as to "scare" the crowd ("Oh noes! What will do!?!/shift1/!?!?"). Thing is he would practice playing the whole piece with 4 strings, and then take one off, and learn it with three... Then two... and then one. He would plan breaking a string just to show off how good he was. He's Yngwie Malmsteen's favorite composer, I believe. Unleash the f'n fury!!! :)
If you are interested in double bass, perhaps look into Domenico Dragonetti. He was a virtuoso (aren't they all? :) ) double bassist.
Good luck!
katana_manatee
04-03-2006, 01:16 PM
What about Edward Elgar? Composer of the famous cello concerto in E minor and Pomp and Circumstance?
moghes69
04-03-2006, 02:46 PM
just throwing it out there, but how about frank zappa.
bass&cookies
04-03-2006, 06:19 PM
rimsky korsakov(sp?) have you been over him?
Chaos
04-03-2006, 07:26 PM
Antonio Vivaldi ?
:Shrug:
Spazzout22
04-03-2006, 07:27 PM
John Cage. He revolutionized composition by popularizing chance in music as well as just composing some crazy stuff. 4:33...
How about John Cage is nutty. 4:33 then he goes further with 0:00 and writes himself into a corner. Also "Well, I don't really see things on a record player as music" So "perform anything" is music, but beethoven's 9th on your ipod isn't. Ya.... no. /rant
How about.... Ives, Shastakovich, Aaron Copland, what about Monteverdi (first person to use the word "Concerto"), Vivaldi, Couprin, I can look through my music history notes and give you 10,000 names if you like.
muthafunkabass
04-03-2006, 07:41 PM
I recommend Paganini, Malmsteen got me so into him.
AlmightyPancake
04-03-2006, 07:54 PM
How about John Cage is nutty. 4:33 then he goes further with 0:00 and writes himself into a corner. Also "Well, I don't really see things on a record player as music" So "perform anything" is music, but beethoven's 9th on your ipod isn't. Ya.... no. /rant
How about.... Ives, Shastakovich, Aaron Copland, what about Monteverdi (first person to use the word "Concerto"), Vivaldi, Couprin, I can look through my music history notes and give you 10,000 names if you like. He's right, in the way he meant. Music of his style is meant to be performed, not recorded and later listened. And since the purpose of the project is to discuss revolutionary composition, it's not difficult to use cage's chance compositions or overtone techniques.
Spazzout22
04-03-2006, 08:04 PM
He's right, in the way he meant. Music of his style is meant to be performed, not recorded and later listened. And since the purpose of the project is to discuss revolutionary composition, it's not difficult to use cage's chance compositions or overtone techniques.
Right, I was just expressing my dislike of his music. When he made that statement, he was actually defining music in general, which is why it makes me iffy. Totally not meaning to offend anyone here, I just don't like his music.
sixner
04-03-2006, 08:12 PM
Chopin? Liszt? Berlioz? Schubert? Schumann? Wagner? Antonio Vivaldi ?
Shastakovich, Aaron Copland, what about Monteverdi (first person to use the word "Concerto"), Vivaldi,
ALL done.... i actually did my last report on Monteverdi :thumb:
This john cage fella seems popular... *googles*
-sixner
JBass
04-03-2006, 08:14 PM
i dont know how its spelled but the one im thinking of is pronounced "Show-Pan"
sixner
04-03-2006, 08:17 PM
^chopin
we've already done it
-sixner
burtonbassist_101
04-03-2006, 08:27 PM
igor stravinsky
pytor tchaikovsky
john barnes chance
dmitri shostakovich
john phillip sousa :lol: just kidding
robert w. smith
john williams
robert strauss
leonard bernstein
gustav holst
morton gould
modest mussorgsky
thats all i can think of right now...sorry for the long list
Spazzout22
04-03-2006, 08:31 PM
I've once heard of this guy named like moatsart? Something like that, apparently he was good....
What about Wolf, Ockeghem, Lully, Liszt, Buxtehude, Verdi? Any of those? Are you needing to do modern composers or like obscure classical composers? OI Mussorgsky! I really like him totally forgot about him though,
sixner
04-03-2006, 08:42 PM
^teacher just said any composer we havent already covered... he was very vague on the description... didn't even tell us what we need to include? just... a report. *shrug*
and the "moatsart" is Mozart :lol:
burton, that first 1/2 is already covered...
-sixner
Thonk
04-03-2006, 08:52 PM
igor stravinsky
pytor tchaikovsky
john barnes chance
dmitri shostakovich
john phillip sousa :lol: just kidding
robert w. smith
john williams
robert strauss
leonard bernstein
gustav holst
morton gould
modest mussorgsky
thats all i can think of right now...sorry for the long list
Doesn't (didn't?) Soussa do tons of marching band arrangements?
Spazzout22
04-03-2006, 08:53 PM
Doesn't (didn't?) Soussa do tons of marching band arrangements?
Ya, he's one of the more famous Band composers. Stars and stripes forever, the classic "circus" music. Great stuff.
AlmightyPancake
04-03-2006, 09:05 PM
Right, I was just expressing my dislike of his music. When he made that statement, he was actually defining music in general, which is why it makes me iffy. Totally not meaning to offend anyone here, I just don't like his music.
Yeah man, I understand completely. It's just that a lot of people criticize him without understanding what he did for post modernism music.
Left Shoe
04-03-2006, 10:31 PM
i hate sousa
FunkMetalBass
04-03-2006, 11:29 PM
Andrew Lloyd Webber. TONS of info, wrote some of the most famous musical pieces in the history of theatre, and was an amazing composer.
EDIT: I doubt too many people are going to take that direction and go into musical theatre to find his/her composer.
AlmightyPancake
04-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Musical theatre is sorely lacking in any sort of revolutionary musical techniques... it's generally very processed.
Also, webber ripped off tons of other composers and musicians... Phantom alone ripped off pink floyd and Hannibal.
FunkMetalBass
04-03-2006, 11:48 PM
Since when was musical theatre about "revolutionary musical techniques"? If it really contained any, the focus would be drawn away from the visual preformance.
Secondly, who cares?
It can be an angle for stylistic writing.
It's like a Bill Gates essay. You can talk about how he became one of the richest men in the world by intelligently lying and stealing other ideas.
Left Shoe
04-03-2006, 11:55 PM
might not be musically revolutionary but where else are you going to have to read 16th note runs with double sharps in cut time in the key signature of F# major?
FunkMetalBass
04-04-2006, 11:42 AM
In jazz?
The jazz metal flum
04-04-2006, 12:08 PM
Do Micheal Tippet. I had do some essay last year on him. He's ment to have been a big influence in modern classical music.
sixner
04-04-2006, 12:17 PM
hm... i dont really like brass sections.. i like the older stuff alot more, harpsicords, violins, pianos.... stringed stuff. Brass sections remind me of marching band's (depending) and ive never been into that stuff.... hence me not being in the school band! haha...
im lookin up Tippett now...
-Sixner
pukeboy66
04-04-2006, 12:25 PM
didnt jaco do some orchestral compositions?
or am i just loony
sixner
04-05-2006, 12:17 PM
I'm doing Paganini... Thank you Mutha :thumb:
i was interested in the double bassist, but there was limited info, and i couldn't find any sound clip's... Paganini seems more popular, it'd be easier to do and im not real worried about this class... i've got seniorites n' what not...
-Sixner
darrell
04-05-2006, 12:51 PM
I'm doing Paganini... Thank you Mutha :thumb:
i was interested in the double bassist, but there was limited info, and i couldn't find any sound clip's... Paganini seems more popular, it'd be easier to do and im not real worried about this class... i've got seniorites n' what not...
-Sixner
No... thank Darrell! :)
If you check out the first page... I mentioned Paganini. If you wanted to do double bass, look up Dragonnetti.
Chaos
04-05-2006, 03:25 PM
What the hell is wrong with Sousa?
I only know stars and stripes and I think that's a cool piece :\
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