100 Greatest Drummers: Round 1, Poll B

[PinkFreud]

Second poll of this round. Top 5 get through. Please, if you can, download some of the recommended tracks and LISTEN to them. It'll not only help you be more educated with your vote, but you might find something new that you really like. There are some write-ups that I just copied from Wikipedia and the like so if people want to post write-ups in here for them, feel free. The ones without recommended listening are the ones without a proper write-up. Help?:thumb:

John Bonham – Led Zeppelin
Anyone on these boards who doesn’t know who John Bonham MUST be lying. He’s quite possibly the most famous drummer in rock history. His influence knows no bounds and his huge sound cannot be contained. He was powerful, he was tasteful, and he had a jack-rabbit right foot. Just listen to that bass drum in “Good Times, Bad Times.” If there was ever a definitive hard-rock drummer, Bonham would be fighting it out on the top.

Recommended Listening:
Moby Dick (Live or Studio, it doesn’t really matter)
Good Times, Bad Times
Achilles Last Stand
How Many More Times
Fool In The Rain

Ian Paice – Deep Purple
Paice is the only member of Deep Purple to have stayed with the band throughout every single one of their incarnations. He is tremendously skilled and is capable of mixing genres to form his own distinctive sound. When Deep Purple hit its third line-up with David Coverdale and Glenn Hughes, DP developed a funkier sound, freeing Paice up to display his chops more.

Recommended Listening:
Burn
Paint It Black (Live)
The Mule (Live)
Fireball
Space Truckin’

Flo Mournier - Cryptopsy
is the drummer of the Canadian death metal band Cryptopsy. He has been with the band ever since they renamed themselves from Necrosis to Cryptopsy. He is most known for his technical skills and speed incorporating double bass drumming and blast beats mixed with a jazzy play of rhythms. He is considered one of the most talented heavy metal drummers of all time.

George Kollias - Nile
is a drummer of considerable talent. He is the drummer for Death Metal Band "Nile". He played drums on the newest "Nile" release called "Annihilation Of The Wicked" which came out in 2005 on Relapse Records. Before that he played Drums for the Melodic Death Metal Band "Nightrage" and the Brutal Death Metal band Sickening Horror. He is known for his considerable speed and stamina with double-bass drums and behind the drumkit in general. His double-bass on the Album Annihilation Of The Wicked is considered to be the fastest ever recorded.

Carter Beauford – Dave Matthews Band
Carter Beauford is the most talented member of DMB. There, I said it. He’s capable of making a solid groove with DMB while also cutting loose in his side project with Victor Wooten. That being said, he IS the only redeeming factor of Dave Matthews Band and so, he must be an excellent drummer. And he doesn’t disappoint. Unfortunately, I’m not too well versed in DMB so I would appreciate any recommended tracks that people put forth.

Recommended Listening:
Tripping Billies

Pete Sandoval - Morbid Angel
Sandoval is known as one of the fastest drummers in metal, a great feat. He is also one of the few drummers to play blast beats with a single pedal and is often credited with introducing rhythmically precise blast beats. It's surprising that Sandoval is so proficient with his double bass considering that he didn't play it before he joined Morbid Angel. The band would often find him passed out over his drum set.

Matt Sorum – Guns ‘n’ Roses
I have no idea why Matt Sorum is here. I don’t quite understand it. He’s not a terrible drummer, just not a spectacularly interesting or important one. He occasionally showed flashes of true talent, so that’s good. He’s solid and he fit Guns ‘n’ Roses to a tee.

Recommended Listening:
You Could Be Mine

Paul Bostaph - Slayer, Exodus, Testament, etc.
Bostaph played with Slayer from 1994's Divine Intervention to 2001's God Hates Us All. He's also featured on Exodus' Shovel Headed Kill Machine. He is probably good. And fast.

Thomas Corn - Lykathea Flame
I found nothing about him, anywhere.

Thomen Stauch - Blind Guardian
Thomas Stauch was the man behind the throne for the terrific German power metal band Blind Guardian. Throughout a multitude of albums, he never ceased to amaze with his impeccable double pedal work and his ability to bust out some of the greatest fills ever recorded. Stauch went above and beyond keeping the beat, crafting his unique form of drumming that fit perfectly with the rest of the band. He left the band during 2005.


There it is. Please, help with the drummers who don't have proper write ups.

Vote away!

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

I'll be sure to vote for George Kollias when you put the poll up.

[Lord Abortion]

I think, although Kollias and Sandoval are both fantastic drummers, Thomen gets my vote.

[Shadows]

Although Kollias is really very good, I'll go with Flo.

[robo2448]

Ian Paice deserves some more respect. I never knew he was the only member to remain with DP all the way through.

[Bazarov]

I'm stuck between Pete, and Flo. Who ever needs the vote more will get mine.

[rik]

Flo.

[Seafroggys]

gee I wonder whose gonna win this one :rolleyes:

Ian Paice all the way! He is so awesome, one of my favorite drummers! And Paice > Bonham anyday of the week.

I'm still trying to figure out the solo at the end of Flight of the Rat by DP. Its insane.

[i am the robots]

Thomas Corn - Lykathea Flame
I found nothing about him, anywhere.

I'd suggest The Land Where Sympathy is Air

Got my vote :).

[Invicta_Veritas]

Gotta give Matt Sorum some credit.....ever watch the drum solos on live in Tokyo?

Plus I'm a huge Gnr fanboy, so he takes it for me.......

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

George Kollias hands down

[Stormrider]

I voted Kolias. Although I realy like Thomen...I hope he goes on aswell.

[temporary]

Ian Paice, this one was considerably easier than the last poll. I'm sure Bonham will sweep this, but Paice is an amazing drummer.

[i am the robots]

I don't know why, but it's pissing me off that Bonham and Paice are even being considered on a poll that Corn, Mournier, and Kolias are all on.

I mean, Bonham and Paice are good and all...

[PinkFreud]

Well, it could be argued that Bonham and Paice are GREATER than the three you named.

Plus, Paice ain't no technical slouch. He has one of the most beautiful single stroke rolls I've ever heard and he's so smooth, fast, and defined.

[i am the robots]

Meh, preferences that differ from mine piss me off.

[I'm Charming]

I voted Kolias.

[PinkFreud]

Well opinions that aren't mine are stupid! :angry:

[Shattered_Future]

Stauch.

I'll do a short writeup...

Thomas Stauch was the man behind the throne for the terrific German power metal band Blind Guardian. Throughout a multitude of albums, he never ceased to amaze with his impeccable double pedal work and his ability to bust out some of the greatest fills ever recorded. Stauch went above and beyond keeping the beat, crafting his unique form of drumming that fit perfectly with the rest of the band. He left the band during 2005.

[Stormrider]

I thought you were gunna vote for him Shattered :p

Meh, I'm starting to think my vote chould have gone to him...too late now.

[apple pie]

Sorum, Bonheam is overrated and the Zeppelin fan boys will push him threw

[MidnightRider]

Ian Paice gets my vote. Deep Purple's such a great band.

[Blue Collar Man]

George Kollias hands down. Just listen to any song on Annihilation of the Wicked. Especially Cast down the Heretic. I have never heard or seen anyone else play double bass that fast.

[PinkFreud]

Sorum, Bonheam is overrated and the Zeppelin fan boys will push him threw
The Zeppelin fanboys who have currently pushed him to a mighty 4th? I think the Zeppelin fanboys are a myth.

Plus, Sorum doesn't really deserve any votes here. At all.

[CaptainWaits]

Even though Bonham will/and maybe should win this poll, I'm either gonna have to vote for Beauford or Stauch (most likeyl Beauford), but I'll see how this poll plays out...

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

George Kollias is probably THE most if not one of THE most tech. drummers in this poll but to bad he probably won't win. Too many fanboys to see real talent.

[Quiksilver26]

Flo for sure

[CaptainWaits]

I just voted right away for Beauford. He's too good IMO to not get my vote.

[classicrockman]

Ian Paice. One of rock's most underrated drummers. Listen to "Space Truckin" if you don't believe me.

[Seafroggys]

I don't know why, but it's pissing me off that Bonham and Paice are even being considered on a poll that Corn, Mournier, and Kolias are all on.

I mean, Bonham and Paice are good and all...

ummmm......

i'm a drummer, and I know a lot of drummers, yet I've never heard of those three....

says things about their greatest, wouldn't you think?

And yes, Ian Paice is one of the most technically proficient drummers there is. His single strokes are way ****ing fast! And he has great grooves as well!

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

3/4 of the people here have never heard either kollias or mounier.... id put money on it

[guitrguy]

Bonzo ftw

I have never really gotten enough into Deep Purple to make a judgement about Paices skill.

3/4 of the people here have never heard either kollias or mounier.... id put money on itI have never heard of Mounier but I have heard of Mournier.

[Darkness]

3/4 of the people here have never heard either kollias or mounier.... id put money on it
Thats to bad to, because they're easily the most skilled there.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

ummmm......

i'm a drummer, and I know a lot of drummers, yet I've never heard of those three....

says things about their greatest, wouldn't you think?

And yes, Ian Paice is one of the most technically proficient drummers there is. His single strokes are way ****ing fast! And he has great grooves as well!

virgil donati = technicalty proficient :) ian paice is great... but hes not half the three drummers "youve never heard of before"... and if we follow what youre saying properly... youre basically saying the greatest drummer is the one that people know of most?

the greatest "anything" is probably playing in his basement somewhere and is waiting to be heard and beaten byc somebody better yet again...



have never heard of Mounier but I have heard of Mournier.



haha thats a bad typo sry :P

[Seafroggys]

Bonzo ftw

I have never really gotten enough into Deep Purple to make a judgement about Paices skill.


a shame really...Deep Purple is simply a superior band to LZ, with a superior drummer.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

Looks like the Zeppelin fanboys are at it.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

a shame really...Deep Purple is simply a superior band to LZ, with a superior drummer.

tru dat

[Seafroggys]

virgil donati = technicalty proficient :) ian paice is great... but hes not half the three drummers "youve never heard of before"... and if we follow what youre saying properly... youre basically saying the greatest drummer is the one that people know of most?

the greatest "anything" is probably playing in his basement somewhere and is waiting to be heard and beaten byc somebody better yet again...


greatness is measured by a lot of things. Influence, fame, skill, and sound. Sure Virgil is technically better then Paice, and maybe those other drummers are, but they're hardly as influential, they're not quite as famous, and I don't like their style. I LOVE Ian Paice's drumming style, and I love the music, which is enough in my right to vote for him.

Of course, that fame aspect will make Bonham win.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

greatness is measured by a lot of things. Influence, fame, skill, and sound. Sure Virgil is technically better then Paice, and maybe those other drummers are, but they're hardly as influential, they're not quite as famous, and I don't like their style. I LOVE Ian Paice's drumming style, and I love the music, which is enough in my right to vote for him.

Of course, that fame aspect will make Bonham win.

which to me proves that fame doesnt have much of a piece in the whole pie that is greatness... but i understand where you come from though...

EDIT: just a sidenote... id rather have an excellent drummer influence 10 other people then a good or soso drummer influence 1000...then again the good ons eventually get filtered out of the **** so it all wrks out :)

[Toaster]

Ugh.. Flo or Kollias.. such a hard decision..

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

Ugh.. Flo or Kollias.. such a hard decision..

coin toss really... although imo kollias is tighter then flo

[Toaster]

coin toss really... although imo kollias is tighter then flo

He's tighter for sure. He just doesn't reach for the blast speed that Flo does.. plus he hasn't proven himself in terms of longevity.

[CaptainWaits]

3/4 of the people here have never heard either kollias or mounier.... id put money on it
Thats to bad to, because they're easily the most skilled there.
Really :confused:

I've heard every drummer on this poll, and I am a drummer.....and hands down Beauford makes for the most skilled drummer on that list. He's also my favorite on the list, so me saying this could be a bit of fanboyism....but yeh know.

[Lunch]

I assume Bonzo will eventually win by a wide margin, but since it was relatively cllose I voted for him. I'd like to see Paice go through, but Bonham is my man.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

He's tighter for sure. He just doesn't reach for the blast speed that Flo does.. plus he hasn't proven himself in terms of longevity.

flo has greater stick handling especially in one handed stuff...imo i still think george takes it in the bass drum department... flo is very unique with it though...so ya coin toss :chug:

[Toaster]

Really :confused:

I've heard every drummer on this poll, and I am a drummer.....and hands down Beauford makes for the most skilled drummer on that list. He's also my favorite on the list, so me saying this could be a bit of fanboyism....but yeh know.
Clearly you haven't heard Cryptopsy's "Adeste Infidelis", Nile's "Cast Down The Heretic", or Lykathea Aflame's "Flowering Entities".

[paranoid923]

Flo and Corn in the same poll? Hard choice but I'm gonna have to support Corn (btw the band is called Lykathea Aflame :p).

If anyone is not familar with Lykathea Aflame check this out:
Land Where Sympathy is Air (http://www.obscene.cz/mp3/038.mp3) (right click and hit save as)
The link is straight from the record label so it should be fine on the forums

[Prince of Darkness]

Carter Beauford ftw

[guitrguy]

a shame really...Deep Purple is simply a superior band to LZ, with a superior drummer.
After hearing Smoke on the Water umpteen times one tends to shy away from getting into them.

Maybe you should upload some DP for the Daily Upload.

[CaptainWaits]

Clearly you haven't heard Cryptopsy's "Adeste Infidelis", Nile's "Cast Down The Heretic", or Lykathea Aflame's "Flowering Entities".
Alright, sure I haven't....but how much Beauford have you been in contact with?

Yeh, those 3 are all good drummers, and deserve their respect....but how can they be BETTER drummers than Beauford:p

[Dave de Sylvia]

Sorum's an extremely talented drummer; he's well worth his place on this poll. His drumming for Guns N' Roses wasn't up to much because all of his parts were essentially written before he joined the band. There's much better stuff on his solo album and the Neurotic Outsiders' album, as well as a few flashes for VR.

[Toaster]

Alright, sure I haven't....but how much Beauford have you been in contact with?

Yeh, those 3 are all good drummers, and deserve their respect....but how can they be BETTER drummers than Beauford:p

I'll cut you a deal. I'll download some Dave Matthews. Then you download those three songs and get back to me.

I'm voting for Flo.

[Deth]

Corn gets my patented "underdog special" vote.

[PinkFreud]

Sorum's an extremely talented drummer; he's well worth his place on this poll. His drumming for Guns N' Roses wasn't up to much because all of his parts were essentially written before he joined the band. There's much better stuff on his solo album and the Neurotic Outsiders' album, as well as a few flashes for VR.
Uploads? I've had and listened to all of GnR's albums and that's my only contact with him.

Also, are you doing Tommy Lee's writeup?

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

...stupid bonham fanboys

[Dave de Sylvia]

Uploads? I've had and listened to all of GnR's albums and that's my only contact with him.

Also, are you doing Tommy Lee's writeup?
Sure, I'll send you a couple songs and the write-up

[PinkFreud]

Cool. Do you have my email?

[guitrguy]

...stupid bonham fanboys
Please don't be stupid.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Cool. Do you have my email?
Is it the same one from the CR mailing list?

[PepsiMetal]

Blind Guardian's ex-drummer is amazing.

[Moses]

Why'd you rip on DMB? I like 'em.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Pete Sandoval

just listen to Terrorizer, people.

[Apocalypticon]

George Kollias for sure

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

Please don't be stupid.

im sry im not flooding a perfectly good poll with my overbiased zeppelin fanboyism...

[Seafroggys]

After hearing Smoke on the Water umpteen times one tends to shy away from getting into them.

Maybe you should upload some DP for the Daily Upload.

yeah, DP gets the **** treatment because of that song, and how its so damn oversaturated (probably the most oversaturated song) yet nothing else ever gets treatment. And SotW is there worst song, which makes the whole situation worse.

I'm downloading several songs right now, i'll upload my albums and these songs to my website so people can get them.

[PinkFreud]

im sry im not flooding a perfectly good poll with my overbiased zeppelin fanboyism...
No, you're flooding it with your overbiased Zappelin hatred. So shut up.

SOP, yeah, it's the same.

[guitrguy]

im sry im not flooding a perfectly good poll with my overbiased zeppelin fanboyism...
You complaining about John Bonham reflects you fanboyism for Mournier and Kollias.

I'm downloading several songs right now, i'll upload my albums and these songs to my website so people can get them.
Can you send me the link? My AIM SN is in my profile.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Smoke on the Water is an awesome song. :mad:

[BradJM]

Wow... It's too bad that Flo, George and Tom Corn are in the same poll because they are head and shoulders above the rest of these guys.

Corn gets my vote. Bringer of Elvenefris Flame brings a tear to my eye everytime I hear it.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

No, you're flooding it with your overbiased Zappelin hatred. So shut up.

SOP, yeah, it's the same.

i have no hatred for zeppelin... i have hatred for 13 year old zeppelin fanboys... perfectly good polls like these organized by perfectly good users always get trashed because of people like them...



You complaining about John Bonham reflects you fanboyism for Mournier and Kollias.




notice how i never even mention john bonham anywhere...
and although i love both Mournier and Kollias... they are not my favorite drummers...nor do i worship them blindly...



Corn gets my vote. Bringer of Elvenefris Flame brings a tear to my eye everytime I hear it.

ya i love that song... so wonderful :)

[guitrguy]

i have no hatred for zeppelin... i have hatred for 13 year old zeppelin fanboys... perfectly good polls like these organized by perfectly good users always get trashed because of people like them...
Pink Freud and I are both in College.


notice how i never even mention john bonham anywhere...
hmmm really this says other wise
...stupid bonham fanboys
idiot


and although i love both Mournier and Kollias... they are not my favorite drummers...nor do i worship them blindly...
Then why did you even bring up fanboyism?

[Broken Arrow]

I went Paice.

[PinkFreud]

Pink Freud and I are both in College.
Not to mention that I AM the perfectly good user who organized this.

[guitrguy]

Not to mention that I AM the perfectly good user who organized this.
hahaha ya.

[zabbit82]

Bonham gets my vote on this one. His skill (fastest single kick bass drum ever heard) and his drum sound (thank you Jimmy Page) are enough reasons to vote for him.

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

I went with Kollias. The man is a maniac.

[PinkFreud]

I went with Kollias. The man is a maniac.
Did you get my email?

[Kingofdudes]

Ugh I regret not going with Carter Beauford :-/ Oh well Flo deserves to go through too

[Dr. Jake Destructo]

Did you get my email?

Downloading it now, thanks. That bit about the sushi made me laugh.

[PinkFreud]

Yeah, dude. It's insane.

[Invicta_Veritas]

No love for sorum? come on, people, he shouldn't be wasted to shame that much.....

[PinkFreud]

Why. He's not better than any of the drummers in this poll.

[I'm Charming]

John Bonham leading this?

Meh. Shows what a joke it is.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

Not to mention that I AM the perfectly good user who organized this.


Pink Freud and I are both in College.


if both of you voted for bonham thereby proving my generalisations wrong then i sincerely apologize for my quick, unwanted words...


Then why did you even bring up fanboyism?


because thats the problem... not bonham or zeppelin... poll results speak for themselves i think (and its not just drummers or led zeppelin.. its happened everywhere: the vox poll, guitarist poll, metal band poll)....

once again after a closer read i can tell my words were ignorant and maybe even arogant and i do apologize... but i stand by what i just said... im not saying john bonham and the likes should have zero votes either... obviously they do deserve credit...like a previous user a few posts up voted for bonham and gave his REASONS...weither we agree or not does not matter... its blind fanboyism that irritates me...

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

If it went on pure technique you would probably see either George, Flo or Thomas S. leading the pack but again it goes back to fanboyism or lack of hearing them.

[PinkFreud]

I didn't vote for Bonham but I can make a damn good argument for him. This is GREATEST drummers, not best. There's a difference. It's based on ability, sure, but also influence, innovation, creativity, and more. Look at the big picture. He's one of the most famous drummers ever, he's certainly technically able. He, Moon, and Baker brought the drums into the spotlight of rock. They were original. Great for Mournier, Kollias, and Stauch but you have to realize that this is greatest drummer in rock and not most technical in metal.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

In that case we may as well end this for Lars Ulrich :rolleyes:

[PremierManiac]

John Bonham leading this?

Meh. Shows what a joke it is.
Why does Bonham being the leader make this poll a joke?

[gillygan]

I don't even listen to any of these bands, no point in voting...

/sigh

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

I didn't vote for Bonham but I can make a damn good argument for him. This is GREATEST drummers, not best. There's a difference. It's based on ability, sure, but also influence, innovation, creativity, and more. Look at the big picture. He's one of the most famous drummers ever, he's certainly technically able. He, Moon, and Baker brought the drums into the spotlight of rock. They were original. Great for Mournier, Kollias, and Stauch but you have to realize that this is greatest drummer in rock and not most technical in metal.

point taken...

but doesnt that make it kind of unfair in that case? i mean there will neve rbe another bonham or anything because theres so much of everything today... back then there was bonham and a some more (known i mean) today theres millions... so based on your definition...how is anybody suppose to be any greater then any drummer that came from that era?

[Jacaranda]

John Bonham leading this?

Meh. Shows what a joke it is.
****ING OPINIONS.

By god it could be worse. Stop bitching.

Went with Sorum because I wanted to.

[Seafroggys]

Smoke on the Water is an awesome song. :mad:

not really. But if you think thats awesome, wait til you hear the rest!

Bonham gets my vote on this one. His skill (fastest single kick bass drum ever heard)

Ummm.....no. Have you heard Fireball by Deep Purple? Ian makes it sound like a laid back double bass beat.....yes, its that fast.

[PinkFreud]

In that case we may as well end this for Lars Ulrich :rolleyes:
Riiiiiiight. Because all that I said could be applied to him.

Oh wait.

Doodle, I'm not saying my argument is perfect. I mean, I voted for Paice. I was just making an argument to show that everyone in these polls could be contenders.

Except Ulrich and Sorum...I'm looking at YOU Jacaranda.

Edit: Seafroggys.....Fireball was done on a double pedal. Paice's admitted that he can get fast enough on a single but it's not full sounding enough.

I'm sorry you had to find out like this.

[Lunch]

I can't believe this many people are complaining about Bonham being in the lead IN THE FIRST ROUND. It's not like he clinched an automatic victory. Just get over it. If you don't like how the polls run, don't participate.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

not really. But if you think thats awesome, wait til you hear the rest!



Ummm.....no. Have you heard Fireball by Deep Purple? Ian makes it sound like a laid back double bass beat.....yes, its that fast.

I think you're ridding Ian's dick a little to hard buddy. I know you like him but it's nothing but fanboyism that you are showing now. All of your post about about Ian.

[PremierManiac]

Ian does have an incredibly fast single though.

[PinkFreud]

Seeing as how Paice is in the poll, I don't really see a problem.

YOU, on the other hand, are shitting up my poll. Stop it.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

Seeing as how Paice is in the poll, I don't really see a problem.

YOU, on the other hand, are shitting up my poll. Stop it.

I'm sorry for that but I have a problem with fanboyism or people who can't stop talking about 1 person for hours on end.

[PinkFreud]

I'm sorry for that but I have a problem with fanboyism or people who can't stop talking about 1 person for hours on end.
He hasn't even posted that many times, dude. Open your eyes. You're the one who keeps bringing up "fanboyism." You're getting repetitive. Just stop.

[Jacaranda]

I'm sorry for that but I have a problem with fanboyism or people who can't stop talking about 1 person for hours on end.
No one cares what you have a problem with.

[TravisBarkerrules]

Matt Sorum is on there because he is kickass but yeah john bonham has to be the favorite but matt sorum is amazing because he can bring so much more to a song

[Moses]

^^^hehe

John Bonham leading is definately not somthing to complain about. He did alot of cool things for rock (Usage of the Purdie shuffle, bass ruff, some good hand foot trades). Anyone who complains about him is either not a drummer or just a metal drummer or hasn't paid attention to his playing.

I went for Carter Beauford though.

[YDload]

I wish Pennie or Dailor was in this one, so the other could be uncontested for my vote in poll A :mad:

But that's okay I went with Flo. Not many death metal drummers stand out for me in general, but this one does.

[I'm Charming]

How many advance from each poll?

[Maggot Dream]

John Bonham. I like Paice alot, but Bonham had more influence and better feel, in my opinion. Nothing wrong with Paice or Beauford though.

[I'm Charming]

Vote for Kollias, he's an excellent drummer and appears to need the votes.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I think 5 advance.

[I'm Charming]

I think 5 advance.


Ahh. Thanks..

[stoned_rat]

for carter beauford....include songs such as:

stay(wasting time)
and "ants marching"

enjoy.

[pizzapie88]

Easy. Thomas Corn.

[Futuro]

John Bonham here. Probably my all time favorite drummer.

[StreetlightRock]

Ill let my other Zeppelin croonies vote for Bonzo, Im at it with Paice 8)

[Seafroggys]

i'm hardly a Paice fanboy.

I'm MUCH more a Moon/Mitchell fanboy.....just you wait until Keith Moon is up!

[-The Frank]

Bonham

[Kyle]

Bonham always had this one won, I voted for him too. He was probably the first drummer who really made me pay attention to drum beats.

[Dave de Sylvia]

The Sorum army's a-marchin' :-D

To an eighth place finish :-[

[Kyle]

I actually really dislike Matt Sorum. Nothing against his drumming, but it's annoying how he still keeps up the whole sleazy rock star thing. Everyone else in VR has settled down, Matt Sorum is still ****ing around with groupies....pathetic.

[Dave de Sylvia]

Yeah but at least he doesn't issue press releases.

Oh man being a GNR fan is fun :rolleyes:

[Clunge]

How can you put Paice and Bonham in the same poll :'(.

Had to go with Paice though, his drumming is incredible.

[Kosmos Tree]

There are some awesome drummers in this poll, which makes it hard to deceide.

I think i'll vote Beauford.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I believe I need to hammer-smash everyone into voting for the underdog.

You will all vote for Matt Sorum :smash:

Notice how intimidated you are :lol:


No, really.
Reasons to vote for Matt Sorum:

1. Good, solid drummer----doesn't waste time with a bunch of fancy crap to show off.....he gets the job done.

2. Took over an extremely difficult position, having to enter GnR in the middle of the biggest recording process of 1990 and learn everything within weeks.

3. He's just that good.


You are all hereby ordered to watch Use your Illusion 1 and 2 live in Tokyo, and pay special attention to the drum solos. There will be a quiz next Friday.

[Futuro]

Took over an extremely difficult position, having to enter GnR in the middle of the biggest recording process of 1990 and learn everything within weeks.Heh, I was in a cover band and learned most every song in 2 days :p

He is a solid drummer though.

[Kyle]

1. Good, solid drummer----doesn't waste time with a bunch of fancy crap to show off.....he gets the job done..So you're saying that we should vote for him because he doesn;t do anything out of the ordinary? Sorum doesn't make the grade in this competition and you know it, I think voting for Ulrich is more justified than this.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I wouldn't vote for a solid drummer. Sorum's a tried and tested drummer, you don't get invited without audition to join bands like Guns N' Roses and The Cult unless you are something out of the ordinary. The guy's been an in-demand session player for a good 20 years and has played in dozens of bands from rock to pop to jazz and classical. His recording career has been rather plain but that's probably more to do with the conservatism of those who surround him. Can you imagine Slash letting someone else take the limelight? :eek:

[halfdeadhippo]

I voted for Corn. \m/



edit: Does anybody know if Billy Cobham or Lenny White are going to be in any of the polls?

[pixiesfanyo]

Carter

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I voted for Corn. \m/



edit: Does anybody know if Billy Cobham or Lenny White are going to be in any of the polls?
Search for the topic which gave a list of the 100 nominated.

[WeezerTool523]

John Bonham, doesn't get much better than that.

[anonym]

i had to choose between bonham and stauch..
waaa..

[Happy]

I think I'll go for Flo.

[YDload]

So you're saying that we should vote for him because he doesn;t do anything out of the ordinary? Sorum doesn't make the grade in this competition and you know it, I think voting for Ulrich is more justified than this.

Exactly, the reason you SHOULDN'T vote for Sorum is because he's nothing special! This is a poll for drummers that do things out of the ordinary, as in extraordinary. I can honestly say I've never paid attention to the drumming in any GNR song, ever. Matt Sorum does not do anything special, therefore he is not worthy of votes.

[Daven]

Thomas Corn all the way.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Anyone can learn a few tricks, show off, and look cool....just look at people who shred but know next to nothing about how to actually play guitar......part of being a musician is being tested under pressure, making things work, and showing you know what you are doing.........Matt Sorum does that.

I would rather listen to a good drummer that takes care of business than a crappy drummer who can do cool things and look good.


BTW, I'm really not understanding the theory people seem to be having of DMB's drummer being even near as talented as Sorum or any of the other drummers in this poll......

[Invicta_Veritas]

I wouldn't vote for a solid drummer. Sorum's a tried and tested drummer, you don't get invited without audition to join bands like Guns N' Roses and The Cult unless you are something out of the ordinary. The guy's been an in-demand session player for a good 20 years and has played in dozens of bands from rock to pop to jazz and classical. His recording career has been rather plain but that's probably more to do with the conservatism of those who surround him. Can you imagine Slash letting someone else take the limelight? :eek:

Quoted for Truth.

[Mr. Night V2.0]

Bonham Ftw!!!!

[YDload]

Anyone can learn a few tricks, show off, and look cool....just look at people who shred but know next to nothing about how to actually play guitar......part of being a musician is being tested under pressure, making things work, and showing you know what you are doing.........Matt Sorum does that.

I would rather listen to a good drummer that takes care of business than a crappy drummer who can do cool things and look good.

I don't see any "crappy drummer[s] who can do cool things and look good" in this poll. If anyone's trying to look good, it's Matt Sorum (http://www.robertmknight.com/photos/campfreddy/5-MattSorumVelvet-CampFreddie.jpg)! The fact is that he's boring, and you have no idea what the criteria for this poll were, so stop acting like you understand what you're voting on. It's one thing to say he's your favorite, but you're doing a terrible job of trying to create justification for it.

[Invicta_Veritas]

I don't see any "crappy drummer[s] who can do cool things and look good" in this poll. If anyone's trying to look good, it's Matt Sorum! The fact is that he's boring, and you have no idea what the criteria for this poll were, so stop acting like you understand what you're voting on. It's one thing to say he's your favorite, but you're doing a terrible job of trying to create justification for it.


Ok, stop.......
1. He is by far not my favorite.
2. He is by far not the most talented drummer.
3. You completely ignored the point. The fact that someone pulls off different or "fancy" sh*t does not necessarily make them talented (refer to guitar analogy).
4. I believe that Matt Sorum, besides having displayed talents in many different bands of completely different styles, is a very talented drummer that surrounds himself by talented musicians, thus making him worthy of consideration.......


But it's ok, whatever, you know.....opinions.... I know he won't make it very far if at all, and I wouldn't expect him to go very far or want him to win.......i just hate seeing good drummers completely overlooked.

[YDload]

Ok, stop.......
1. He is by far not my favorite.
2. He is by far not the most talented drummer.
3. You completely ignored the point. The fact that someone pulls off different or "fancy" sh*t does not necessarily make them talented (refer to guitar analogy).
4. I believe that Matt Sorum, besides having displayed talents in many different bands of completely different styles, is a very talented drummer that surrounds himself by talented musicians, thus making him worthy of consideration.......

So if he's merely "worthy of consideration," then why the hell would anyone vote for him? He's on the poll, then I guess he's done his job. And surrounding oneself with talented musicians certainly doesn't qualify them as a talented drummer, or else Lars Ulrich would actually DESERVE the votes he's gotten!

And yes, it's true that he's not the most talented drummer by far. That's why I wouldn't vote for him! I'd vote for guys that are just about the most talented, or as close as one can get in terms of creativity and skill in this poll.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Um, no.......Lars would fail in that category....with the exception if Kirk.

It does show something. Typically, if you surround yourself by people that know thier sh*t, you typically know your Sh*t, because they really wouldn't want to be associated with you if you didn't. A talented atmoshpere is more creative than one of Talent surrounded by stupidity.....

Like I said, It's fine......I wouldn't expect him to win (or want him to)...
I just hate it when people totally skip over musicians that are actually pretty good.

[wrathchild88]

Stuck between Flo and Ian Paice. I think Flo, but only just.

[Invicta_Veritas]

With as many metal fans as there are here, I'm quite surprised that more people haven't voted for George Kollias.......

[Kingofdudes]

BTW, I'm really not understanding the theory people seem to be having of DMB's drummer being even near as talented as Sorum or any of the other drummers in this poll......
Dont you even try to bash Carter. He is a great drummer with DMB, and does some amazing stuff on the side with Victor Wooten and Bela Fleck. He deserves to be ahead of a lot of the people in these polls, and is certaintly better than the "solid":rolleyes: players such as Sorum.

[Invicta_Veritas]

My, aren't we an angry panda.......

I didn't bash him. DMB has just never shown me anything interesting enough to catch my attention.......pretty boring band overall IMO.....
Plus, they were initially very annoying to me.

[Kingofdudes]

My, aren't we an angry panda.......
No, not really

I didn't bash him.
Saying that Sorum is more talented than him is bashing him :-/
DMB has just never shown me anything interesting enough to catch my attention.......pretty boring band overall IMO.....
Plus, they were initially very annoying to me.
Honestly have you listened to more than 2-3 songs by them? Besides he does stuff outside of DMB.

[Invicta_Veritas]

No, not really

Saying that Sorum is more talented than him is bashing him :-/

Honestly have you listened to more than 2-3 songs by them? Besides he does stuff outside of DMB.


1. Yes you are.
2. No not really.
3. No. Niether he nor they have shown me anything worthy of my further listening......if you honestly are that insistant of it, I will give them (and him) another shot.....Dave's voice is incredibly annoying to me though, so I can't promise anything.........give me a recommend listen (and don't be an arse about it). Or I can give you my email and have you send something to me (that can be done, right?).<<<computer idiot

[raz0r]

Carter Beauford, no competition.

[PinkFreud]

1. Yes you are.
2. No not really.
3. No. Niether he nor they have shown me anything worthy of my further listening......if you honestly are that insistant of it, I will give them (and him) another shot.....Dave's voice is incredibly annoying to me though, so I can't promise anything.........give me a recommend listen (and don't be an arse about it). Or I can give you my email and have you send something to me (that can be done, right?).<<<computer idiot
1. Don't try to tell people how they feel.
2. I absolutely HATE DMB and yet I can admit that he's a talented drummer. Miles ahead of Sorum.

Spat Out Plath, will you still send me some more Sorum material.

Solid drummers who are ONLY solid shouldn't be voted for. Ringo will get votes because he was incredibly influential and creative. Charlie Watts SHOULD get votes for also being influential and innovative. Matt Sorum should not.

[Lord Abortion]

Am I drunk, or has Pete Sandoval only got three votes?!

what the hell?!

Just listen to Altars of Madness, please.

[Invicta_Veritas]

1. Don't try to tell people how they feel.



it's called being humourous.......sad panda? have you never seen south park?

[Dave de Sylvia]

/crap
Christ, will you shut up. Sorum was doing well in the polls until you started arguing his case!

Spat Out Plath, will you still send me some more Sorum material.
Sure, I'm just now back from college so this is the first chance I've got.

[Lunch]

it's called being humourous.......sad panda? have you never seen south park?

I guess that makes you the annoying panda.

I hate DMB, but I recognize Carter as a great drummer.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I guess that makes you the annoying panda.

I hate DMB, but I recognize Carter as a great drummer.
I caught the last few tracks of a DMB concert on TV and he was ALL I noticed. I'm not even joking, I go blind and deaf within spitting distance of the man.

[guitrguy]

I caught the last few tracks of a DMB concert on TV and he was ALL I noticed. I'm not even joking, I go blind and deaf within spitting distance of the man.
Tunnel vision eh?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Tunnel vision eh?
What can I say? It's a gift :cool:

Velvet Revolver - Illegal i Song (http://s57.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=36D95KCINA9161CBN4VZW40ONS)

This link was never posted (hurry up PF)

[the2stranger]

Thomas Corn is amazing, super fast, but lays a lot of emotion in his drumming.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

*me hopes george gets more votes*

[temporary]

yeah, DP gets the **** treatment because of that song, and how its so damn oversaturated (probably the most oversaturated song) yet nothing else ever gets treatment. And SotW is there worst song, which makes the whole situation worse.

While I wouldn't call it their worst song, I completely agree with you on that (and what you said about them being better than Zeppelin.) DP will never, ever get the credit they deserve (besides the massive amount the influenced so many great bands.)

Edit: PinkFrued: I have a live version of Fireball where Paice play's it on a single pedal (as far as I know he never used double live,) and while its not quite as fast as in the studio is pretty impressive.

[Moses]

Carter Beauford > Matt Sorum.

In all areas Beauford owns Sorum, especially if you're only about "what fits".

[PinkFreud]

What can I say? It's a gift :cool:
This link was never posted (hurry up PF)
Got it.

[Thor]

Sweet! Flo's in 2nd!

[White]

Am I the only one who thinks John bonham is winning bedcause of his popularity??? cause no offense to Zeppelin Fans but Carter Beauford does kill Bonham. I'm sure there are other drummers on the list that are better, but Im not all to familliar with them.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

I'll just be happy if George Kollias makes it to the next round.

[Inpropagation]

4 votes for Sandoval? wtf?

[Dave de Sylvia]

Am I the only one who thinks John bonham is winning bedcause of his popularity??? cause no offense to Zepplin Fans but Carter Beauford does kill Bonham. I'm sure there are other drummers on the list that are better, but Im not all to familliar with them.
You'll find a neat correlation between being popular and winning popularity contests.

[White]

4 votes for Sandoval? wtf?

Only 14 for beauford, As I stated, these are realyl just poularity contest. you have like maybe 30-45% of the voters know anything about these drummers and what there weaknesses are. and the other 55-70% just like "Oh ya, Hes a good drummer Such and such a band is wicked"

[PinkFreud]

This is why I post write-ups and suggested listening. It's just that no one ever reads them. You yourself admitted that you haven't heard all of the drummers here. Perhaps you should check out the first post.

[Sleeper]

Carter Beauford

[Bazarov]

So I went with Pete.

[Roo_bass]

Kollias.

Cast Down The Heretic is just... thwoar!

[I'm Charming]

Kollias.

Cast Down The Heretic is just... thwoar!


Quoted for truth. Anyone who doesn't vote for Kollias is an idiot.

[PinkFreud]

Quoted for truth. Anyone who doesn't vote for Kollias is an idiot.
Let's not be stupid.

[guitrguy]

Quoted for truth. Anyone who doesn't vote for Kollias is an idiot.
:rolleyes:

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

Quoted for truth. Anyone who doesn't vote for Kollias is an idiot.

i voted for kollias... but i think were being a little to harsh here?

[I'm Charming]

i voted for kollias... but i think were being a little to harsh here?


Not really.

More technical + leagues faster = more skill

[guitrguy]

Not really.

More technical + leagues faster = more skill
Maybe for his genre, but we are talking about drummers from more then just metal. Drummers like Beafourd and Paice have more technical skill and applicable knowledge. You just assume because its metal its going to be more complicated.

[PinkFreud]

Most Technical =/= Greatest

Some more math for you.

[guitrguy]

Most Technical =/= Greatest

Some more math for you.
And to reinterate Metal drumming =/= more techincal than any drumming styles.

[PinkFreud]

This is true, too.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

Maybe for his genre, but we are talking about drummers from more then just metal. Drummers like Beafourd and Paice have more technical skill and applicable knowledge. You just assume because its metal its going to be more complicated.

applicable knowledge maybe/most likely... technical skill... i highly doubt it...

[Sleepy]

What's with this John Bonham stuff? Flo FTW!!!

[Moses]

applicable knowledge maybe/most likely... technical skill... i highly doubt it...
No, it's true. I bet Kolias couldn't play most of the things they can. Kolias is just not very different than alot of fast metal drummers.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

No, it's true. I bet Kolias couldn't play most of the things they can. Kolias is just not very different than alot of fast metal drummers.

If I remember correct Kolias is a Jazz train drummer. I'm sure he could easily play those guy's stuff and if you give him a listen he is a lot different then the average metal drummer and drummer's period.

[guitrguy]

If I remember correct Kolias is a Jazz train drummer. I'm sure he could easily play those guy's stuff and if you give him a listen he is a lot different then the average metal drummer and drummer's period.
Who did he study under?

[Moses]

I don't think he's a jazz drummer... I've heard most of Nile's stuff and alot of it is pretty fast but not rediculous.

EDIT: Okay, he's played jazz too. He studied under Yannis Stavropoulos for a little while.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

from his official site:

:: "He took private lessons from the Greek drum legend Yannis Stavropoulos and he started mixing his Jazz/ Fusion influences with his blazing fast drumming and trying to give another dimension on the classical death metal drumming."

EDIT: beaten to it

[SomeGuySomewhere]

I think Bonham is simply being voted mostly because his band is popular, probably just like Lars has/will be.

[guitrguy]

I think Bonham is simply being voted mostly because his band is popular, probably just like Lars has/will be.
Heres the thing Bonham actually has skill Lars has no skill nor creativity. Sure his name is the most recognizable buts its up there for a reason. Like PF has said earlier if you don't like it don't participate.

[SomeGuySomewhere]

awww muffin, did I hit a nerve? jkjk

I'm not complaining or anything, just I've notice in many music forums how all fanboys/non drummers always vote for Bonham and/or Lars and they usually come out as the "Greatest" Drummer(s) in these types of polls. Something I've always noticed.

[I'm Charming]

I agree with SomeGuy.

He's just getting voted so higly because of his name.

I think pointing out how the "known guys" get the most votes, instead of the most skill. I think that's a very good point.

Comparing him much less anyone to Lars is rather harsh though.

[SomeGuySomewhere]

Well, I simply said Lars, because he appears as often as Bonham does in "Rock/Metal" mags. when they speak of drummers. He has skill, no doubt about that, but I think his dick gets sucked way too much at times.

[I'm Charming]

Well, I simply said Lars, because he appears as often as Bonham does in "Rock/Metal" mags. when they speak of drummers. He has skill, no doubt about that, but I think his dick gets sucked way too much at times.

Yes it does.

[Dave de Sylvia]

I don't think Bonzo's had his dick sucked for a good three decades and with good reason but the guy is a legend, whether his technical skill matches any of the above drummers or not. His influence on rock and metal drumming is incalculable.

[SomeGuySomewhere]

so tr00

[I'm Charming]

Come on! Kollias needs the votes.

He's an excellent drummer.

Very technical, trained in jazz and credit to the fastest double bass ever recorded goes to him.

[Seafroggys]

the guy has got his dick sucked more than everyone of you here combined!

[PremierManiac]

credit to the fastest double bass ever recorded goes to him.
Not to discredit Kollias (he's a great drummer), but Tim Waterson has the fastest double in the world. http://www.timwaterson.com/main.htm
Don't get the idea that this guy is a good drummer, he's not. Just fast.

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

Not to discredit Kollias (he's a great drummer), but Tim Waterson has the fastest double in the world. http://www.timwaterson.com/main.htm
Don't get the idea that this guy is a good drummer, he's not. Just fast.

does he last as long as kollias though? thats the question... watch some of his vids on his website... his stamina is incredible

[SomeGuySomewhere]

Mmmm, only because I'm a bass player

Drummers>Bass players in the dick suck contest

[vashts80]

Man, why'd you have to put Flo, Pete and George in the same poll?

I voted for Pete, since Flo and George should both be getting into the next round anyway.

[CaptainWaits]

It's really a shame Beauford isn't getting many votes :(

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

I'm actually kind of surprised that Paul Bostaph hasn't gotten many votes, though I've never really liked him I thought the Slayer/Exodus boys would push him up a little more.

[Poofy 666]

I'm actually kind of surprised that Paul Bostaph hasn't gotten many votes, though I've never really liked him I thought the Slayer/Exodus boys would push him up a little more.
He's a damn good drummer, but compared to Flo, Corn, Sandoval, Kollias...

[Bazarov]

I'm actually kind of surprised that Paul Bostaph hasn't gotten many votes, though I've never really liked him I thought the Slayer/Exodus boys would push him up a little more.
I thought about voting for him.... for a second. Lombard>>>>>>>>>>Bostaph

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Bostaph is damn good.

But he is no Pete Sandoval.

[Txus]

Thomas Corn is a ****ing beast in the drums, he gets my vote.

[entruce]

Paul Bostaph is a horrible drummer, he ruined three great thrash bands.

If you're talking about best drummers, look into Gene Hoglan, Faust, Richard Christy, or AT LEAST Dave Lombardo

[PinkFreud]

Paul Bostaph is a horrible drummer, he ruined three great thrash bands.

If you're talking about best drummers, look into Gene Hoglan, Faust, Richard Christy, or AT LEAST Dave Lombardo
Get out, you idiot. It's one poll in a series of polls.

[Moses]

Paul Bostaph is a horrible drummer, he ruined three great thrash bands.

If you're talking about best drummers, look into Gene Hoglan, Faust, Richard Christy, or AT LEAST Dave Lombardo
Shut up bitch.

[guitrguy]

Paul Bostaph is a horrible drummer, he ruined three great thrash bands.

If you're talking about best drummers, look into Gene Hoglan, Faust, Richard Christy, or AT LEAST Dave Lombardo
OOO we have a smarty pants

[I'm Charming]

OOO we have a smarty pants

lawl. He's made 3 posts of utter crap.

[penelope weird hands]

I just downloaded Nile's Black Seeds of Vengeance.
Aand, welll... Wow.

I am now proceeding to vote for Kollias.

EDIT: Oh.. fvck. Did he even play on that album????

[metal_related_aneurysm]

I am so cut right about now. I haven't been on mx for a while, so I come on and look here. What do I find? Brann Dailor ousted by 2 freaking votes! I would have nearly forced a draw! I'm going to cry myself to sleep tonight -_-

I just hope that Lopez gets through.

Kollias gets my vote.

[willis2441]

bonham hands down

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

Wooooo George pullin' some votes in.

[i am the robots]

Paul Bostaph is a horrible drummer, he ruined three great thrash bands.

If you're talking about best drummers, look into Gene Hoglan, Faust, Richard Christy, or AT LEAST Dave Lombardo

Have you ever heard Flo Mornier or Thomas Corn? They make Lombardo look like a beginner.

[Moses]

Actually Lombardo never had any formal training and you can tell.

[temporary]

Actually Lombardo never had any formal training and you can tell.

I never knew that, actually. He impresses me because (me not being a drummer) he plays fast, and it usually takes some time for me to begin to see into a drummer's technique and whatnot, and since I listen to very little Slayer speed is all my impression of him is.

[Moses]

I mean even if you look to the stuff he did for Fantomas, you could tell it was a little bit amateur but nonetheless sounded good.

[guitrguy]

Actually Lombardo never had any formal training and you can tell.
I know somebody trained under him, but I can't remember who it was.

[I'm Charming]

I know somebody trained under him, but I can't remember who it was.

Lars?

[guitrguy]

Lars?
No body in thrash... I don't know why I can't remember the name or band he is in.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

Actually Lombardo never had any formal training and you can tell.

Then why does it say he got lessons?

[Dancin' Man]

George Kollias - Nile

His double-bass on the Album Annihilation Of The Wicked is considered to be the fastest ever recorded.

Faster than Liam from Mithras?

[White]

I'll just be happy if George Kollias makes it to the next round.

I did read the first post. Just I don't listen to many of those bands, and I actually did check out most of the drummers I was uncertain about on www.drummerworld.com, and I still stuck with Beauford, he has excellent skill and style.

[Moses]

George Kollias - Nile

His double-bass on the Album Annihilation Of The Wicked is considered to be the fastest ever recorded.

Faster than Liam from Mithras?
It's not the fastest ever recorded. Tim Waterson holds the Guiness Book of world records.
Then why does it say he got lessons?
You tell me.

[Kage]

Frankly, I dislike the type of drumming that seems to be represented in these polls.

[guitrguy]

Frankly, I dislike the type of drumming that seems to be represented in these polls.
what type do like then?

[Moses]

How someone can dislike Carter Beauford's drumming, I'll never know. Same goes for Ian Paice.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

On drummerworld under Lombardo's page it says he took a weeks worth of lessons before stopping with them because it was so boring.

[Moses]

Hmmm... I distinctly remember seeing Huber or Futuro saying that he had no formal training and reading it on drummerworld.

Either way a week's worth of lessons is nothing.

[Seafroggys]

Frankly, I dislike the type of drumming that seems to be represented in these polls.

what do you like?

I don't like metal drumming too much, which is why my vote went to Paice,who's also easily one of my favorites.

[CaptainWaits]

How someone can dislike Carter Beauford's drumming, I'll never know. Same goes for Ian Paice.
It bothers me that Beauford's only hit 18 votes so far. He's one of the BEST drummers, no question.

Do the top 5 in each poll go through?

[guitrguy]

Hmmm... I distinctly remember seeing Huber or Futuro saying that he had no formal training and reading it on drummerworld.

Either way a week's worth of lessons is nothing.
Haha a weeks worth of lessons is one lesson.

[Moses]

I get composition lessons every two weeks and regular piano lessons once a week. I love them but I have so much to do which was why I wasn't running this, and Pink Freud's enthusiasm on doing it also made it easy to just hand off.

[guitrguy]

I get composition lessons every two weeks and regular piano lessons once a week. I love them but I have so much to do which was why I wasn't running this, and Pink Freud's enthusiasm on doing it also made it easy to just hand off.
Composition is much different then instrumental lessons.

[Soul_Under_Arrest]

Who knows how many times his lessons were it could have been 1-7. Only Dave Lombardo knows.

[Moses]

Composition is much different then instrumental lessons.
Not really. I know since I take both. Piano is once a week and Composition is once every two. I wasn't trying to argue anything, just making discussion.

Either way Dave Lombardo is not a traditional drummer by any means.

[guitrguy]

Not really. I know since I take both. Piano is once a week and Composition is once every two. I wasn't trying to argue anything, just making discussion.

Either way Dave Lombardo is not a traditional drummer by any means.
I wasn't either I'm a music major and trust me they are very different. In terms of learning.

[Moses]

Why should I trust you when I know for myself? I just had my composition lesson yesterday and my piano lesson today. Obviously it depends on the teacher.

[guitrguy]

Why should I trust you when I know for myself? I just had my composition lesson yesterday and my piano lesson today. Obviously it depends on the teacher.
Compostion is not an instruement, I take alot more too leanr how to do, and is way more academic. Instrument lessons you basically get a piece of music learn and you tacher helps wiht phrasing and techniques. My theory classes meet four times a week, as apposed to my lessons that meet once a week.

[Moses]

Well my composition class is like this... I bring my song in that I'm working on at the moment and my teacher helps me with helping me decide what to do with what I have an possibly give me ideas about what to do next. It's not as academic as you might think, and it's also one-on-one with a composition teacher. It's not composition theory, it's songwriting composition.

My piano lesson is actually more academic than my composition lessons because it discusses the piece of music, what the composer was like, and how to go about practicing it and why.

Anyway that's how mine go, just because yours go different mean that I don't know what I'm talking about. Just like I said it depends on the teacher on how many times you meet.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Holy crap, people-come on...must we really argue about nothing?

[YDload]

Well, you're the one who started talkin about Matt Sorum, who is "nothing" next to the other drummers in this poll.

[penelope weird hands]

I am so cut right about now. I haven't been on mx for a while, so I come on and look here. What do I find? Brann Dailor ousted by 2 freaking votes! I would have nearly forced a draw! I'm going to cry myself to sleep tonight -_-

I just hope that Lopez gets through.

Kollias gets my vote.

Wow, I agree with everything there.

I wish Dailor got a draw with Pennie, moving them both and the winning 4 up, but it wasn't to be.. ;/

[sgrevs]

Mournier all the way!

[Slapping Penguin]

These are just popularity constest, and voting for your favorite band. John Bonham is not as good as many up there yet becaues Led Zepplin is soo good and all, he is on top.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Well, you're the one who started talkin about Matt Sorum, who is "nothing" next to the other drummers in this poll.


Piffle...... :rolleyes:

[Moses]

These are just popularity constest, and voting for your favorite band. John Bonham is not as good as many up there yet becaues Led Zepplin is soo good and all, he is on top.
Actually he's pretty good.

[Lunch]

Personally I voted for John Bonham just because Led Zeplin rules. I've never heard any other drummers before but I know that John Bonham is the greatest ever because he was in Led Zepplin and no one will ever be better than him. I also don't think he has any talent, ability, originality, or influence, but oh well, these polls are basically just popularity contests, right?

[Moses]

That's either ignorant or sarcastic.