A way of life?

[Nostalgia]

Hello, guys. I'm really going to start coming on now, instead of just browsing. I couldn't stay away for too long :) But I've always wondered this. In your opinion, is music a way of life? is it so controlling that it a way of life? For me, music kind of revolves around my life, once you really get into music, you can't really find your way out, right now that's where I stand. I know it sounds corny but, music isn't just music to me, It's like too hard to describe the gift of music. So, here's my question, is music so important to you that it acts as a way of life?

[Crysiss]

Music is important to me. Im not going to say it saved me, but all the days jamming I could've been getting locked up with friends.
Music is an art.

[robo2448]

Oh yeah, definitely. I feel like once I've heard certain artists, my whole perspective on life changes. Some artists just make me really think hard about things and just look at life differently. I feel enlightened thanks to music. But yeah, especially these days it's really saving me. Being a junior in high school with college and SAT's and pressure from parents and all that crap looming over me, music really helps me relax.

[Nepenthe]

Music is very important to me. It affects alot of what I do in life. I'd say as far as far as physical things go, music is the most important thing to me. All day I'm listening to music. Whenever I meet soemone new one of the first things I say is "So what kind of music are you into?", and this usually leads to a conversation, and later a new friend or acquaintance.

Going off of what robo2448 said, yeah certain bands in music, when coming in at the right time can completely change my life. When I heard Misfits back in 6th grade, I started wearing ripped up clothes and skateboarding. When I heard Metallica in 7th, I started playing guitar and wearing Anthrax shirts. When I heard Helloween in 8th, I started playing other instruments and looking past the radio for music. When I heard Burzum near the end of 8th, my life completely changed. I started really digging into the world of music and realizing what a rich and beautiful world it was. And though I don't feel like making a long *** post (though it's already pretty damn long) about all that's happened between then and now, I will say that I'm a much different person. Strange as it sounds, because of the music I started listening to, I started caring about school, I started reading, I started really getting good with the instruments I played, and overall I just became a much more intelligent person. Certain things lead to certain outcomes, but it really all leads to music in one way or the other. Somehow.

[Crysiss]

I honestly think that anyone that posts in a message board concerning bands wouldnt just say music is just music. If it were just music to them, They wouldnt be able to connect with the music if it weren't taken seriously

[Bazarov]

Well music's important to me, it offers me an escape from daily bullshit. A way of life? Yeah I guess so... a lot of the bands I listen to have changed the way I think, and my attitude towards things.

Whenever I meet soemone new one of the first things I say is "So what kind of music are you into?", and this usually leads to a conversation, and later a new friend or acquaintance.
Same here. In school that's about all I talk about in class. Right when my teachers say we're free to work after the end of a lecture, me and my buddies just gather around and start talking about music.

Silentscream stop lurking so much and get back to posting more often. Especially in the Slayer thread. Don't make me come all the way up to Washington and force you to post.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Music is an art to me as a musician and frontman, but it is also a release. My writing of and listening to Rock and more specifically metal has kept me from ripping people's spines out and eating them for dinner at points.

[Txus]

Music is my life really, I can't imagine living without it. Music plays a major role in my life and will always do.

[musicforlife]

Music is 85% of my life, eating and sleep is the other 15%.

[Riva]

Music, not just playing music, but music itself, is now intrisnically linked to me, I think. I wouldn't die without music, but I would become very morose, I believe.

[Jom]

So, here's my question, is music so important to you that it acts as a way of life?

No. It does play a role in my life, but not to the extent that it dictates how I live my life and it doesn't act like a way of life.

At the very most, it's a hobby. Hobbies are things people like or love doing.

A musician - someone who actually plays or performs music - would say yes to this question, obviously.

I am not a professional musician, and I have absolutely no desire to become one.

However, I understand people - musicians or not - when they say that music acts as a way of life for them. It just simply doesn't for me. It's there, and I'm grateful that it is, but it doesn't control my life at all.

[Nepenthe]

Well music's important to me, it offers me an escape from daily bullshit. A way of life? Yeah I guess so... a lot of the bands I listen to have changed the way I think, and my attitude towards things.


Same here. In school that's about all I talk about in class. Right when my teachers say we're free to work after the end of a lecture, me and my buddies just gather around and start talking about music.

Silentscream stop lurking so much and get back to posting more often. Especially in the Slayer thread. Don't make me come all the way up to Washington and force you to post.

Yeah probably 50% of all of my conversations with my friends is concernign music or related to it in someway. And I know that music is my 'way of life' when I say that it doesn't bother me at all when one certain subject takes up that much of my conversations haha.

For me, I'll hear music I really like, and so I'll look it up on the intraweb, and I'll start reading into like their lyrics, and just overall about their ideas and opinions and things theyre into and stand for. Varg really changed alot of my perspectives (though I'm not to keen on his racial opinions, of which by the way Anthrax helped me form alot of mine of...yeah that statement makes no sense to me either but I can't really think of how to word it) as well as the guys from Agalloch.

Music also affects alot of what I'm interested in at the time. When I go on a Summoning binge, I usually start reading/watching LOTR alot, etc.

[Nepenthe]

No. It does play a role in my life, but not to the extent that it dictates how I live my life and it doesn't act like a way of life.

At the very most, it's a hobby. Hobbies are things people like or love doing.

A musician - someone who actually plays or performs music - would say yes to this question, obviously.

I am not a professional musician, and I have absolutely no desire to become one.

However, I understand people - musicians or not - when they say that music acts as a way of life for them. It just simply doesn't for me. It's there, and I'm grateful that it is, but it doesn't control my life at all.

I definately see the point your making there. And I'm not sure it neccesarilly 'controls' my life. It just helps me down the path of it.

I am striving for music to turn into my life in one way or another. But the music world is not an easy one to make it into, so I also have a few other options as I'm not completely naive to not know the odds of making it. But as long as I'm able to do so, I will make both playing and listening to music a main focus in my life.

[Nostalgia]

Guys, I NEVER said any mods can post in my threads!

[Steerpike]

Not music specifically, but art has very much become my life. I'm a storyteller at heart, and I'm always thinking about new ways to express my stories in specific art forms.

And you know the old adage that life imitates art. I believe that's true.

[ArcLite]

For me, music isn't just something to listen to, but it's more a of a hobby. It's something to do and that I greatly enjoy. I can just listen to music while doing absolutely nothing else and be entertained. However, I always feel like something is missing when I'm doing other things and don't have any tunes playing in the background. Not to mention the doors that are openned when you start making your own music. I wouldn't say it's a way of life for me, but I'd probably spontaniously combust without it.

[Invicta_Veritas]

Guys, I NEVER said any mods can post in my threads!


I really don't think you have a choice in that one.

[Nostalgia]

No, I do. Riva's my slave. Dunno about Jom :(

[Riva]

Yes, bossman.:(

[Nostalgia]

I really don't think you have a choice in that one.
Crackin' the whip.

[Jom]

I'll be smashin' the banhammer if you don't stop derailing your own thread :smash:

[Nostalgia]

Ok, sorry.

[Jom]

Hahahaha, I was kidding, man :lol:

Anyways:

I definately see the point your making there. And I'm not sure it neccesarilly 'controls' my life. It just helps me down the path of it.

Yeah, that's perfectly fine. Music plays a substantial role in the enjoyment of your life. It's to be assumed that most people here are like that (save for a few Pit ruffians or something, heh).

I am striving for music to turn into my life in one way or another. But the music world is not an easy one to make it into, so I also have a few other options as I'm not completely naive to not know the odds of making it. But as long as I'm able to do so, I will make both playing and listening to music a main focus in my life.

I'm never going to knock anyone for his goal(s) he's setting for himself in life.

So, good on you. Best of luck for whatever happens. And since music is along the way for you no matter what, it makes life seem a little easier, I'm sure :)

[Nostalgia]

Haha, I wasn't sure if you were kidding or not. Do you think that music can play a harmful role in your life? like it can be almost too much? I find that when I'm thinking of music at school that I can't really concentrate. It is always a fun thing to think about, haha.

[Kage]

I'm either listening to or thinking about music about 95% of the day. Still, I can concentrate on anything I need to, write a lot, make good grades and school and carry on healthy relationships with real people.

Music is what keeps me away from doing anything foolish. It's like a drug, I can listen to it any time and my worries melt away, so it keeps me from doing actual drugs, etc.

[PepsiMetal]

Music is definetely a way of life. Just like how paintings are a way of life, or poetry, or even acting in broadways and such. It becomes part of your life you don't realize that it's your career now.

Listening to music can also be a way of life. Some artists completely change my moods and can be very inspirational. When I go a day without listening to music, and then I listen to it the next day, it feels so good. Almost like drugs. :)

Not that I had any. :lol:

[Moses]

Who would say music is important than sex? I know I would. I don't know if it's as important as love but music can distract me from it.

[Kage]

Music is more important than sex, for sure. More important than love...at this point in my life, yes, definately, but I've never been in love so I can't say. It's definately the most important thing (aside from family, friends and all that hullabaloo) in my life, or at least it ranks up there at the top.

[Moses]

I can only tell you that if you've never been in love, you don't know what it's like.

Music is pretty much what I've been trained to do since the age of 5 though, and I love doing it. It's all I ever am interested in looking deeper into.

[Riva]

Music isn't as important as love to me, but it is definately a passion of mine.

[Kage]

I can only tell you that if you've never been in love, you don't know what it's like.

Music is pretty much what I've been trained to do since the age of 5 though, and I love doing it. It's all I ever am interested in looking deeper into.
Love shmuv.

For someone like me, a poster boy for the introverted, music is the cure-all for life.

[Nostalgia]

If it's casual sex, of course music will be more important. I believe love> music, but definitely not sex.

[Moses]

Love shmuv.

For someone like me, a poster boy for the introverted, music is the cure-all for life.
I go back and forth between introverted and extroverted. It's either I'm just acting like an *** or I'm alone with my own thoughts. Wait till you do fall in love though.

Did you get that Pavarotti song that I sent you?

[Concubine]

Music is my inspiration and an escape world of my routine... That's how i see it... It isn't driving my way of life or anything...

[Kage]

I go back and forth between introverted and extroverted. It's either I'm just acting like an *** or I'm alone with my own thoughts. Wait till you do fall in love though.

Did you get that Pavarotti song that I sent you?
That's unusual...a mixtrovert. Sounds like you're an introvert who can be extroverted when he needs to be.

Yeah, I have the song but I haven't listened to it and I'm on my way to bed now. Remind me tommorow.

[PepsiMetal]

Music can't be more important than sex. There's probably nothing better in the world than having sex, having a child, and then living a good life with a family.

Family is always #1, and without sex family can't form.

[Moses]

That's unusual...a mixtrovert. Sounds like you're an introvert who can be extroverted when he needs to be.

Yeah, I have the song but I haven't listened to it and I'm on my way to bed now. Remind me tommorow.
Yeah, that is mostly what it's like. I find my self to be in the middle of most things like political issues, religion, you name it.

You're still in for a treat then.

Music can't be more important than sex. There's probably nothing better in the world than having sex, having a child, and then living a good life with a family.

Family is always #1, and without sex family can't form.
It's definately ideal to most people to have a family but I don't veiw it as a necessity. If I have the opportunity to gain my own family I'd love that but I could live without it if I still had the one I love.

[penelope weird hands]

"Life without music is an error" --- Friedrich Nietzsche

I agree.
It is a large part of my life, and I couldn't be as$ed living if it didn't exist.
I also have large ears.

[metalhead_matt]

just imagine the world without music. then you realise how crucial it is

[illdisposed]

metal is my life,and thats for sure.

[Sleepy]

I wouldn't be the same person as I am today without music.

Music > Sex

Love > Music

The question that begs to be answered is...Is love music?

I spend most of the school day playing out music in my head; in a way I am my own jukebox. Sometimes the rhythm helps me concentrate, other times it totally distracts me from doing what I need to do. Either way, anyone who has a problem with that can kiss my *** - I need my music. There's really only one thing more important to me than music - and she knows who she is :)

[the2stranger]

Music is very important in my life, but not crucial.
It's a form of escapism for sure and brings me lots of inspiration as well as a way to sort out my emotions.

I could say music is a way of living, atleast it's very important and music can change me a lot, it's not just music but lyrical standpoints as well and art in general

[Invicta_Veritas]

Being as that I can't play hockey anymore (multiple knee and ankle injuries) and I really hate math, music and lyricism have chosen themselves as my career path...... I don't really have anything else that i enjoy as much anymore......

[Jon]

Of course it is.

Besides music being my only real passion, it's my identity, future, social life, sex life, hobby, career, and cause of substance abuse.

Without the bands that make me me (Hanoi Rocks, New York Dolls, Dead Boys, Plasmatics, Sham 69, Ratt, Vain etc etc) I wouldn't be me.

I dunno if its me/my scene more than others, but this whole glam/punk thing is deeper than just nodding your head to a ****ing Motley Crue song, its all a part of my identity so deep that I just...my whole persona would be compromised if anything in the past 17 years had happened differently.

[JamJar]

I look back on when I was younger and think to myself, 'How did I ever live without listening to music?' Music is my one passion in life and has made me become interested in world and philisophical issues as a result of the bands I listen to. Music is the only thing I can see myself doing when I'm older and I really want to pursue some sort of career in it. The first music I ever really played was when i started the violin when I was about 7 (How I wish that I didn't quit playing it.). Now I play French Horn, Guitar, Bass and I'm currently learning piano. Music has consumed my life and is refusing to spit me out.

[Rattlehead]

i listen to music a hell of a lot. last summer i realised how much it rules me. my ipod broke and the insurance company took 3 months to post a replacement. the lead from my computer to my amp is not long enough and i never got round to buying a longer one, and my CD player skips all the time so i couldn't listen to music in my room except through my tinny monitor speakers. before i had just plugged my ipod into my amp all the time. also when walking my dogs all i had ever done was listen to my music. so that was three months nearly musicless. it really opened my eyes though. i was much more observant of life in general, but things got very boring for me. i read a hell of a lot more though, which made it ok(ish), but i was always missing something. the moment my replacement ipod came through the post i was ecstatic, and i ran upstairs, updated it on itunes and immediatly put it on shuffle. it came up with Black Sabbath, Black Sabbath(what are the chances????) i sat and listened through several orgasms of audio-pleasure. i havn't learnt at all till this day, i listen just as much, im just extremely proctive of the Pod.

[Shadius]

No. It does play a role in my life, but not to the extent that it dictates how I live my life and it doesn't act like a way of life.

At the very most, it's a hobby. Hobbies are things people like or love doing.

A musician - someone who actually plays or performs music - would say yes to this question, obviously.

I am not a professional musician, and I have absolutely no desire to become one.

However, I understand people - musicians or not - when they say that music acts as a way of life for them. It just simply doesn't for me. It's there, and I'm grateful that it is, but it doesn't control my life at all.

I know what you're saying. But the only reason you're here right now with 17,000 odd posts on this forum is because of music. In order to get that many posts in one and a half years, this forum must be a *huge* part of your life. Therefore; music has influenced, and pretty much dictated this huge part of your life.

Sorry to drag that from page 1, but I started reading it... Anyways. Music is a HUGE part of my life. Whether it's listening to or learning or playing or whatever, I love it. It's given my life more meaning, that and my girlfriend, and it dosn't bare thinking about what i'd be like without either.

[Nostalgia]

You have to agree that this forums itself, is way more then just music. Once you start participating and getting active on here, these people become your friends. Though you don't know them personally, that doesn't deny the fact that you have a relationship with 'em.

[GenuineImitation]

You have to agree that this forums itself, is way more then just music. Once you start participating and getting active on here, these people become your friends. Though you don't know them personally, that doesn't deny the fact that you have a relationship with 'em.

I agree with that.


Music is a large part of my life. Its a great way to relax and entertain. I listen to so much music, that I can turn my head into a portable Jukebox, just like FuryInArt. Music is a great way to express youself, wether its through lyrics, rythm or melody.

I talk about music alot with my friends. Not as much as I would like, but music isnt as improtant to them as it is to me. I dont know what I would do without music.

[Jom]

I know what you're saying. But the only reason you're here right now with 17,000 odd posts on this forum is because of music. In order to get that many posts in one and a half years, this forum must be a *huge* part of your life. Therefore; music has influenced, and pretty much dictated this huge part of your life.

I could turn and walk away from this forum and not come back. It wouldn't be hard for me at all because the people that I used to talk to talk to me with less and less frequency. There are only three users here that talk to me on a daily or every-other-day basis, practically, but me taking off wouldn't faze them at all. They'd get over it quickly.

All I'd have to do is not show up, delete all my MX/Sputnikmusic contacts from my messaging programs, and give myself anonymity through everything else, from Last.fm to never responding to e-mails.

But, I have responsibilities here. So I can't leave. This is a second job for me. It's no longer a hobby - it's work.

But I make it fun.

And hopefully others have fun with me. That's all I want.

[alexmonty12]

Music is a pretty big part of my life. I wouldn't be friends with most of my current friends if it wasnt' for music, I don't know what I'd do at home all the time, or what i'd talk about, or even arge about.

[Rattlehead]

yea, all my mates are my mates because i found that they listen to the same stuff as me.

but music dictates personality aswell, for some people. via a famous musician.

[Moses]

I could turn and walk away from this forum and not come back. It wouldn't be hard for me at all because the people that I used to talk to talk to me with less and less frequency. There are only three users here that talk to me on a daily or every-other-day basis, practically, but me taking off wouldn't faze them at all. They'd get over it quickly.

All I'd have to do is not show up, delete all my MX/Sputnikmusic contacts from my messaging programs, and give myself anonymity through everything else, from Last.fm to never responding to e-mails.

But, I have responsibilities here. So I can't leave. This is a second job for me. It's no longer a hobby - it's work.

But I make it fun.

And hopefully others have fun with me. That's all I want.
Yeah Jom, I never see you on AIM anymore. Wtf?

[Nostalgia]

So, I'm happy with the outcome of this thread. :)

[xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx]

music saves

[Shadius]

I could turn and walk away from this forum and not come back. It wouldn't be hard for me at all because the people that I used to talk to talk to me with less and less frequency. There are only three users here that talk to me on a daily or every-other-day basis, practically, but me taking off wouldn't faze them at all. They'd get over it quickly.

All I'd have to do is not show up, delete all my MX/Sputnikmusic contacts from my messaging programs, and give myself anonymity through everything else, from Last.fm to never responding to e-mails.

But, I have responsibilities here. So I can't leave. This is a second job for me. It's no longer a hobby - it's work.

But I make it fun.

And hopefully others have fun with me. That's all I want.

I don't think you could quit MX, unless something huge changes in your life. I've been a huge part of an online community before, to the extent that it becomes a job and a responsibility, and even if you say you're taking a break, and you happen to come online, there always that part of you that just wants to view the forums, in this case, the MX tabs forums. I'm still a part of my online community, and have been since I was 14, I'm 19 now, and it's taken this long for me to take a backseat to it and phase it out a bit.

Anyway, regardless of you ability to phase out this website that has undeniably become a huge part of your life. It was music that brought you here, I assume. So the music brough about a job and responsibility, in a similar way to that of a musician or producer, except you enable people to talk about music peacefully on a forum rather than creating it yourself.

Stop me if i'm being presumptous though, I can just draw a lot of parralels with what you're doing here and the kind of people who do this sort of thing, and what I've done.

Like has been said, I think the fact people would actually post regulary on here in any degree shows that music is more than just a small hobby, in most cases it's at least a big hobby, or even an obsession.

Just imagine how crappy life would be without music though.

[Nostalgia]

Yeah, I know that you could eventually quit but, I don't see myself... just walking away from this site. I owe too much to this forum just to be able to walk away.

If Jom walked away, this froum would change to a great extent.

[Jom]

I don't think you could quit MX, unless something huge changes in your life.

The only thing that would stop me from leaving is that I have a job to do on Sputnikmusic. I do my job well. Most people like the job I do and recognize that I spent a lot of time taking care of things they assign me to take care of or spend a lot of time working on the site. The people that think I'm terrible at my job aren't exactly exemplary users, but I'm always willing to change something if people bring it up with me.

I've been a huge part of an online community before, to the extent that it becomes a job and a responsibility, and even if you say you're taking a break, and you happen to come online, there always that part of you that just wants to view the forums, in this case, the MX tabs forums. I'm still a part of my online community, and have been since I was 14, I'm 19 now, and it's taken this long for me to take a backseat to it and phase it out a bit.

Sure, it's different for everyone. But it wouldn't be fair to the Sputnikmusic staff to say that I'm not going to do anything for the site. I can't just leave.

If I didn't have a job to do here? I could walk away. I wouldn't miss a lot.

Anyway, regardless of you ability to phase out this website that has undeniably become a huge part of your life. It was music that brought you here, I assume. So the music brough about a job and responsibility, in a similar way to that of a musician or producer, except you enable people to talk about music peacefully on a forum rather than creating it yourself.

You have a good point. But I still performed music before coming here in 2002. And I still talked to people in the real world about music. They may not have the same expertise as people here, but for some, ignorance is bliss.

Stop me if i'm being presumptous though, I can just draw a lot of parralels with what you're doing here and the kind of people who do this sort of thing, and what I've done.

Dude you are always more than welcome to state your thoughts. Don't think you can't, especially when you're addressing me. Now grant it, if you were like pussy vagina **** **** asshole, I'd be less willing to speak to you. But yeah.

Like has been said, I think the fact people would actually post regulary on here in any degree shows that music is more than just a small hobby, in most cases it's at least a big hobby, or even an obsession.

Just imagine how crappy life would be without music though.

I never contested that music isn't important. I'm just saying that I could still have my music and not share it or discuss it here.

If Jom walked away, this froum would change to a great extent.

Not really. I haven't made any significant impact on anyone's life here. I thought I could the first time around, but I didn't. So I started anew in August.

And, nope, I still haven't. But you see, I can't start over now. I'm bound by the job I have to do. And I like doing this job.

It really sucks when Chad is going crazy and there's spam attacks and other crappy things, but if I didn't have this opportunity, things would have taken a longer time to be remedied.

But whatever. That's not important.

[i am the robots]

I would have said music was a way of life a few years ago, but I've since grown up.

Music is a part of life, however music should not effect how you judge others.

[Sleepy]

Jom, don't leave :)

Eleventeen, music can still be a huge part of your life and not affect the way you judge others. I am one of 3 people I know who listen to death metal...luckily, I have more than 2 good friends out there. You don't have to dress/act/listen to the same music as someone to still be connected with them on a personal level.

[Nepenthe]

Jom, don't leave :)

Eleventeen, music can still be a huge part of your life and not affect the way you judge others. I am one of 3 people I know who listen to death metal...luckily, I have more than 2 good friends out there. You don't have to dress/act/listen to the same music as someone to still be connected with them on a personal level.

The sad part is, alot of times people who listen to certain music (I'm mainly pointing at rap and whatever category you want to put MCR in) alot of times are almost as idiotic as the music they listen to. I've found it's much easier to become friends with people of the same music interests as me, just because we seem to think on or near the same plane of thought, and thus get along well. I'm not trying to cast any stones here, but I find it very hard to become friends with people who listen to the music I previously stated for the sole reason that they alot of the times just aren't very intelligent people, and are usually quite immature. I do have a few friends who listen to that music though, but none of them are of my closest friends.

[Sleepy]

The sad part is, alot of times people who listen to certain music (I'm mainly pointing at rap and whatever category you want to put MCR in) alot of times are almost as idiotic as the music they listen to. I've found it's much easier to become friends with people of the same music interests as me, just because we seem to think on or near the same plane of thought, and thus get along well. I'm not trying to cast any stones here, but I find it very hard to become friends with people who listen to the music I previously stated for the sole reason that they alot of the times just aren't very intelligent people, and are usually quite immature. I do have a few friends who listen to that music though, but none of them are of my closest friends.

And I know very intelligent people who listen to pop music and don't have a desire to delve deeper into the music (I categorize just about everything from rap to MCR as pop-rap or pop-rock). It just depends on what interests someone.

One of my best friends is an utter Deathead - he isn't interested much in searching for music, but he loves all the stuff I introduce him to.

Another really good friend of mine really only listens to Indie Rock & Blues, but he's been an avid poster in the Alternative forums since before I registered here.

[Nepenthe]

And I know very intelligent people who listen to pop music and don't have a desire to delve deeper into the music (I categorize just about everything from rap to MCR as pop-rap or pop-rock). It just depends on what interests someone.

One of my best friends is an utter Deathead - he isn't interested much in searching for music, but he loves all the stuff I introduce him to.

Another really good friend of mine really only listens to Indie Rock & Blues, but he's been an avid poster in the Alternative forums since before I registered here.

Consider yourself lucky then. The only people that I come into contact with that listen to poppy stuff are completely obsessed with the likes of MCR and Fall Out Boy and refuse to believe that any other form of music is worthy of being made. Which is awful funny, because half of them used to be on the praise Metallica fit that all middle schoolers go on. And most of the people I know that are into rap, are pretty much just stereotypes, and they find nothing wrong with that. I can only think of 2 or 3 people I know that listen to pop stuff and don't really behave in these ways.

I mean, I'm not saying all listeners of these music forms are always complete morons, as one of my closest friends actually listens to both rap and Panic At The Disco, but he's also open minded when it comes to other genres and while not a huge fan of it, listens to my music whenever I'm around. But most of my first hand experiences with listeners of pop music is like that. Maybe the Dallas area is just awful...

[Sleepy]

Consider yourself lucky then. The only people that I come into contact with that listen to poppy stuff are completely obsessed with the likes of MCR and Fall Out Boy and refuse to believe that any other form of music is worthy of being made. Which is awful funny, because half of them used to be on the praise Metallica fit that all middle schoolers go on. And most of the people I know that are into rap, are pretty much just stereotypes, and they find nothing wrong with that. I can only think of 2 or 3 people I know that listen to pop stuff and don't really behave in these ways.

I mean, I'm not saying all listeners of these music forms are always complete morons, as one of my closest friends actually listens to both rap and Panic At The Disco, but he's also open minded when it comes to other genres and while not a huge fan of it, listens to my music whenever I'm around. But most of my first hand experiences with listeners of pop music is like that. Maybe the Dallas area is just awful...

You're sure EVERYONE you've come in contact with is a stereotype? You, my friend, should consider attending a liberal arts school :) That's what I'm doing for Sophomore year, probably until the end of high school.

[Nepenthe]

You're sure EVERYONE you've come in contact with is a stereotype? You, my friend, should consider attending a liberal arts school :) That's what I'm doing for Sophomore year, probably until the end of high school.

Heh, no, I made sure to mention that not EVERYONE I meet is, to make sure to avoid stereotyping on my part. But honestly, yeah, at my old school (I'm attending a college prep school now at which I like all the students, there's only 15 in the high school with me haha) pretty much everyone could fit right nicely into a stereotype. I guess I could've fit right into the 'metalhead' stereotype myself with my long hair and few friends now that I think about it haha.

I really hate to sound narrow minded myself, but most of my friends are all into the same type/s of music that I am into. And a good portion of the people who are into pop music that I meet are just really thickheaded people. Like I mentioned before, refusing to acknowledge any other forms and music, and believe me, their actual personalities are not too pretty either. As I said above, at my old school I just really didn't care for many of the people, and I really didn't become close friends to any of them. Where I am now in my new school I've become good and close friends with almost all of them, and have made many more friends that they knew outside of school.

[Sleepy]

I really hate to sound narrow minded myself, but most of my friends are all into the same type/s of music that I am into. And a good portion of the people who are into pop music that I meet are just really thickheaded people. Like I mentioned before, refusing to acknowledge any other forms and music, and believe me, their actual personalities are not too pretty either.

I'll take it from you, then - I don't exactly know your friends. There's always at least one rotten apple in every batch, in a lot of cases, many more.

[Moses]

Actually the more ignorant people I come in contact with are metalheads.

[Sleepy]

Actually the more ignorant people I come in contact with are metalheads.

And the more intelligent are...?

[Spiritofmosa]

too much metalcore makes me a very tough kid.

[Invicta_Veritas]

And the more intelligent are...?


Rap fans :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Sleepy]

Rap fans :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Yo dawg, I'm too intelghent fo' yo propa inglish!"

[Spiritofmosa]

actuallyafter passing the pop music stage when i was a kid. i got into only rock related music and i hardly touch any music beyond the genre(mostly into nu-metal and hard rock) ..
now i've gotten to know so many bands, bands like dredg and led zeppelin exposed me to classical , jazz and blues.. but i'm still sticking to rock.

[Moses]

And the more intelligent are...?
Classical, Jazz, usually classic rock and emo have less ignorant people.

[Sleepy]

Sorry, but I find a lot of emo kids mindless and insufferable. Those obsessed with Classic Rock are usually following trends, along with vintage t shirts and torn jeans (usually).

Although I agree wholeheartedly with the Classical and Jazz bits. Two other genres I quite like.

[Nepenthe]

Sorry, but I find a lot of emo kids mindless and insufferable. Those obsessed with Classic Rock are usually following trends, along with vintage t shirts and torn jeans (usually).

Although I agree wholeheartedly with the Classical and Jazz bits. Two other genres I quite like.

I agree with every statement you made there. Though I only have a slight interest in jazz, I have a large interest in classical.

[Sleepy]

Being in the school jazz band has really broadened my knowledge of the genre - it's not as enjoyable to me as metal, but it's up there :) Classical music, however, is wonderful. I can't remember why I thought it was so boring for all those years; I was so ignorant!

[Krabsworth]

Classical, Jazz, usually classic rock and emo have less ignorant people.

Sarcasm?

[Moses]

Sorry, but I find a lot of emo kids mindless and insufferable. Those obsessed with Classic Rock are usually following trends, along with vintage t shirts and torn jeans (usually).
I mean fans of emo music not emo kids. People that like classic rock probably populate most of my AP classes.

[Sleepy]

Raw educational intelligence isn't exactly the most practical intelligence :) I could be in courses further up the food chain if I wanted, but other interests conflict with spending that much time on school.

Therefore, I really think you shouldn't judge brainpower on what shirts your AP classmates are wearing.

[i am the robots]

Jom, don't leave :)

Eleventeen, music can still be a huge part of your life and not affect the way you judge others. I am one of 3 people I know who listen to death metal...luckily, I have more than 2 good friends out there. You don't have to dress/act/listen to the same music as someone to still be connected with them on a personal level.

Quiet you ;)

[Sleepy]

Quiet you ;)

Hint taken :cool:

[Spiritofmosa]

maynard james keenan seems like a smart fellar

[Moses]

Raw educational intelligence isn't exactly the most practical intelligence :) I could be in courses further up the food chain if I wanted, but other interests conflict with spending that much time on school.

Therefore, I really think you shouldn't judge brainpower on what shirts your AP classmates are wearing.
AP English always has alot of philosophical discussion in it and that's not raw educational intelligence. The courses don't really take any more time than regular ones.

They don't even wear classic rock t-shirts and I had never made any suggestion that they did.

[Nepenthe]

Raw educational intelligence isn't exactly the most practical intelligence :) I could be in courses further up the food chain if I wanted, but other interests conflict with spending that much time on school.

Therefore, I really think you shouldn't judge brainpower on what shirts your AP classmates are wearing.

Yeah when I refer to intelligence in my earlier posts I don't exactly mean none of those kids can finish their calculus homework in 3 minutes, I mean they are just very narrow minded and quite...well, immature. They just don't quite get 'it' (you decide what 'it' is). They are quite childish and are almost oblivious to the world around them. It's very sad actually.

[Sleepy]

AP English always has alot of philosophical discussion in it and that's not raw educational intelligence. The courses don't really take any more time than regular ones.

They don't even wear classic rock t-shirts and I had never made any suggestion that they did.

Sorry, you never made specific the class...and I thought that was what you were referring to. :rolleyes: Misunderstood you.

[Moses]

New addition to the people that listen to "intellectual music".

Post rock
Prog

AP English takes alot of intellectual prowess and you have to be able to make connections with rhetorical strategies.

The only assumption I can make is that the most intellectual people tend to be artists of some sort.

[Sleepy]

I really haven't heard much "Post Rock", so I don't know anything about there.

And yes, I think Prog would take intellect to recognize and appreciate. Although I still disagree with you about metalheads being ignorant - this forum is living proof that there are many, many exceptions to that assumption.

[Nepenthe]

New addition to the people that listen to "intellectual music".

Post rock
Prog

I've listened to more GY!BE and We Followed Tigers today than I care to mention. I'm currently in love with the genre right now. Along with Summoning. And Gandalf (not that crappy melodeath band, the better one, with the awesome 12 strings).

Add Haggard to that list of what I'm currently in love with. I'm halfway through my first listen of Eppur Si Mouve and I'm enthralled by it.

[Sleepy]

i have led zeppelin and funeral for a friend shirts....

And your poor punctuation and little care for proper grammar reinforces the point that shirts don't matter :thumb:

[Moses]

I really haven't heard much "Post Rock", so I don't know anything about there.

And yes, I think Prog would take intellect to recognize and appreciate. Although I still disagree with you about metalheads being ignorant - this forum is living proof that there are many, many exceptions to that assumption.
This forum is also living proof of ignorant metalheads also. The regulars are competent but I'd disagree with you if you said the majority was.

[Sleepy]

This forum is also living proof of ignorant metalheads also. The regulars are competent but I'd disagree with you if you said the majority was.

Is any forum here not a home for the incompetant as well?

However, I can name many, many well-spoken and educated members of R&M.

[Spiritofmosa]

And your poor punctuation and little care for proper grammar reinforces the point that shirts don't matter :thumb:
lawl..
anyway talking about intellegent music.
i think i listen to alot of dredg , tool , explosions in the sky ..these bands have openend my mind and made me a deep thinker;sometimes to a point of depression. i find some 'smart' guys rather arrogant though.

[Moses]

Is any forum here not a home for the incompetant as well?

However, I can name many, many well-spoken and educated members of R&M.
Truth be told there are more screw-ups in here than in the Indie forum.

[musicforlife]

I'm in AP classes and I promise that some not a lot but some of AP kids are open minded. Actually one of my favorite genres of music is classic rock. Also to the person who said that AP students never wear a classic rock T-shirt, I just happen to be wearing a Lynyrd Skynyrd T-shirt.

[Nepenthe]

Haha, back to the main subject, I just realized how crazy I was about music.

Just about every night I find a new band or song or cd that I just go crazy over if I really like it. I start iming and calling all my friends that are into the same music as me and just go ballistic telling them all about it and sending them links and uploading it and completely whoring the band/song/cd to them. Tonight it's Haggard's Eppur Si Mouve, last night it was Summoning's Stronghold, night before it was Gandalf's Between Earth And Sky. It's something different every night.

Anyways, to the point, tonight as I was whoring off the Haggard cd to all my friends I realized exactly what I was/had been doing. Whenever I hear good music that I just found, I just go nuts and try to let everyone I know hear it. I never really realized how passionate about music I was until that moment about 20 minutes ago.

[Sleepy]

Truth be told there are more screw-ups in here than in the Indie forum.

Screw-ups being the tardheads who come in here and make posts like: "ZOMGz SLIPKNOT IS SOOOOO KEWL!!!ONE!!!111"

Correct?

That could just be because the more mainstream (I have nothing against mainsteam in general...it's just that a lot of it sucks) Rock and Metal bands are more popular than most anything in the Indie forum - this is reflected by the amount of posts and users browsing R&M being much more than Indie.

anyway talking about intellegent music...
i think i listen to alot of dredg , tool , explosions in the sky ..these bands have openend my mind and made me a deep thinker;sometimes to a point of depression.

A band with no lyrics made you a deeper thinker and brought you to the point of depression? You must be quite impressionable.

(Sorry, cigaro, I'm giving you a bad time tonight :) Mucho <3's )

[Moses]

I'm in AP classes and I promise that some not a lot but some of AP kids are open minded. Actually one of my favorite genres of music is classic rock. Also to the person who said that AP students never wear a classic rock T-shirt, I just happen to be wearing a Lynyrd Skynyrd T-shirt.
I was saying that I wasn't judging their intellect on what shirt they were wearing. I actually talk to the kids and know what they listen to.

Screw-ups being the tardheads who come in here and make posts like: "ZOMGz SLIPKNOT IS SOOOOO KEWL!!!ONE!!!111"

Correct?

That could just be because the more mainstream (I have nothing against mainsteam in general...it's just that a lot of it sucks) Rock and Metal bands are more popular than most anything in the Indie forum - this is reflected by the amount of posts and users browsing R&M being much more than Indie.
I'm talking about alot of the elitists.

CoB has alot of idiotic fans so it's not all mainstream (even though CoB is becoming that way more and more).

[Nepenthe]

Screw-ups being the tardheads who come in here and make posts like: "ZOMGz SLIPKNOT IS SOOOOO KEWL!!!ONE!!!111"

Correct?

That could just be because the more mainstream (I have nothing against mainsteam in general...it's just that a lot of it sucks) Rock and Metal bands are more popular than most anything in the Indie forum - this is reflected by the amount of posts and users browsing R&M being much more than Indie.



A band with no lyrics made you a deeper thinker and brought you to the point of depression? You must be quite impressionable.

(Sorry, cigaro, I'm giving you a bad time tonight :) Mucho <3's )


Though Explosions has no lyrics, their music is deep enough to where it could definately cause you to have some pretty emotional reactions to it. Most post rock is like that. Godspeed You Black Emperor creates some of the most emotional music you'll ever hear without any vocals at all (though there are some spoken bits, but very few).

[musicforlife]

Originally Posted by Moses
I was saying that I wasn't judging their intellect on what shirt they were wearing. I actually talk to the kids and know what they listen to.

Okay.

[Sleepy]

Though Explosions has no lyrics, their music is deep enough to where it could definately cause you to have some pretty emotional reactions to it. Most post rock is like that. Godspeed You Black Emperor creates some of the most emotional music you'll ever hear without any vocals at all (though there are some spoken bits, but very few).

I know, man - I love both of the bands you just mentioned. I was just giving cigaro crap. Although Godspeed's spoken bits are absolutely breathtaking, IMO. I can't get enough of it.

[Spiritofmosa]

A band with no lyrics made you a deeper thinker and brought you to the point of depression? You must be quite impressionable.

(Sorry, cigaro, I'm giving you a bad time tonight :) Mucho <3's )

uhuh.. actually not relly depression ( 1 minute of depression before i reocvered ) . why u've never been affected by instrumentals before?

[Nepenthe]

I know, man - I love both of the bands you just mentioned. I was just giving cigaro crap. Although Godspeed's spoken bits are absolutely breathtaking, IMO. I can't get enough of it.

Beginning of East Hastings=orgasmic.

[Spiritofmosa]

i'm checking out godspeed now..

mmm.. ambient music

[gillygan]

I would have nothing to do without music.

Now that I think this, I love music even more :)

But for music being a way of life, I hate when people think they are there music. You can't "be punk" or "metal" or whatever...

[Nepenthe]

i'm checking out godspeed now..

mmm.. ambient music

Wonderful isn't it? What cd did you get?

[Epicurus]

Eh music in general is what I love so yeah it plays a role in my life.

[Spiritofmosa]

Wonderful isn't it? What cd did you get?
i downloaded a few songs they r arite.. check out delft (http://www.purevolume.com/delft)

[Slapping Penguin]

I eat metal, breath distortion, and sh*t brutality.

I am sooo metal.

[Spiritofmosa]

I eat metal, breath distortion, and sh*t brutality.

I am sooo metal.
Not tHAt kinD oF METAL you iDioT!!!

[Apocalyptic Raids]

No. It does play a role in my life, but not to the extent that it dictates how I live my life and it doesn't act like a way of life.

At the very most, it's a hobby. Hobbies are things people like or love doing.

However, I understand people - musicians or not - when they say that music acts as a way of life for them. It just simply doesn't for me. It's there, and I'm grateful that it is, but it doesn't control my life at all.
Same for me.

Although this will probably be changing in the future, since I'm studying to become a Sound Engineer.

[Spiritofmosa]

as a sound engineer izzint it that u control the music , not let the music control you.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

O_O

whatever you say mister

[sean2332]

I personallly think it's a way of life, it makes me not as angry all the time, if i can play my drums, it's been a good day, so much music has helped me deal with things, good and bad. And eventually i want to make it my life, all i want to do is play the drums for a career, that will make me happiest.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

3 simple words...
MUSIC is LIFE!!!!!

[deadvoodoodoll]

For the music is your special friend
Dance on fire as it intends
Music is your only friend
Until the end
- Jim Morrison

that right there sums up how i feel about music.
i really don't know what i would do with out it

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

For the music is your special friend
Dance on fire as it intends
Music is your only friend
Until the end
- Jim Morrison

that right there sums up how i feel about music.
i really don't know what i would do with out it
thats like saying we are the druggies and without our drugs we have nothing

and thats pretty true because my parents are trying to take my "inappropriate" metal away, but thats pretty much all i have when i comes to music and im not giving it up because i would be goin crazy without it

[Bazarov]

thats like saying we are the druggies and without our drugs we have nothing
and thats pretty true because my parents are trying to take my "inappropriate" metal away, but thats pretty much all i have when i comes to music and im not giving it up because i would be goin crazy without it

I would have to disagree with that.

The quote is saying that all we have in life as a friend is music, until we die. Not that without music we are nothing.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

I would have to disagree with that.

The quote is saying that all we have in life as a friend is music, until we die. Not that without music we are nothing.
i said it wrong, sorry. what i meant was that the quote the other guy put is definately true. i made it look like i was comparing both quotes but i wasnt trying to and i didnt mean to.

[Bazarov]

Oh. Okay then.

[Ladyshredder126]

Music was the only thing that got me through the hardest time of my life. It was the only thing that was always there for me, and listening to other people tell about their feelings, their pain and love and grief, let me know in a special way, I'm not the only one going through this, I'm not alone. Through playing my guitar, I was able to express emotions that... words just can't. I believe, as poetically stupid as it may sound, I am a child of music and I have a duty to share it with others.

Is music a way of life? Yes. What you believe is a way of life, where you go to school, who your friends are, what and who you love. I love music. I have realized that my friends are more important than anything, but music speaks to me like no other. It does not dictate my life, but it sure affects how I feel, which in turn affects how I act.

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

Music was the only thing that got me through the hardest time of my life. It was the only thing that was always there for me, and listening to other people tell about their feelings, their pain and love and grief, let me know in a special way, I'm not the only one going through this, I'm not alone. Through playing my guitar, I was able to express emotions that... words just can't. I believe, as poetically stupid as it may sound, I am a child of music and I have a duty to share it with others.

Is music a way of life? Yes. What you believe is a way of life, where you go to school, who your friends are, what and who you love. I love music. I have realized that my friends are more important than anything, but music speaks to me like no other. It does not dictate my life, but it sure affects how I feel, which in turn affects how I act.
couldnt have said it better

[Ladyshredder126]

thanks

[HAIL TRUE METAL]

thanks
no problemo