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Misfit_Fiend
03-24-2006, 06:04 PM
Does hardcore punk still exist?

or did it die in the 80's?
D & V
03-24-2006, 06:11 PM
my friend is in an 80's styled hardcore punk band
AIRIC
03-24-2006, 06:17 PM
I'm a hardcore punk.
iam2000pounds
03-24-2006, 06:22 PM
It still exists, I geuss.
Flagjacket
03-24-2006, 06:34 PM
Does hardcore punk still exist?

or did it die in the 80's?

Hardcore punk never happened. As it doesn't exist now, we can debate whether it existed at all in the first place.
Brain Toad
03-24-2006, 07:06 PM
There is still bands that play music similar to the hardcore of the 80s, yes.

Hardcore punk never happened. As it doesn't exist now, we can debate whether it existed at all in the first place.
I don't see it at as debatable. Of course there was bands in the 80s who played music that was called hardcore-punk, it was called that then and it is called that now.
superskankinactionhero
03-24-2006, 07:17 PM
i'm starting a hardcore punk band soon :) we just need to find a decent guitarist
DaveToopes
03-24-2006, 07:20 PM
Career Suicide!!
Times Ten
03-24-2006, 07:21 PM
It exists now, but it is corny as hell. 80s hardcore is awesome.
me likes punk
03-24-2006, 09:21 PM
Career Suicide!!


Hells yes!
Blk-Widow
03-24-2006, 09:26 PM
hardcore punk is not the same anymore...
faith and fiction
03-24-2006, 09:33 PM
Sure it is. You're just looking in the wrong places. That's like saying punk doesn't exist anymore when it clearly does. People just don't want to admit that things have changed a bit in the past; sure we need to stick to the roots but change is inevitable.

Also if you don't think Hardcore Punk existed, I tip my hat to you for being able to completely ignore a counter culture with 2 decades under it's belt.

If you want some good modern hardcore punk check out http://www.derangedrecords.com and listen to some to some of their bands.
DaveToopes
03-24-2006, 10:34 PM
Notice that Career Suicide is on Deranged Records.

Shane, good post.
Flagjacket
03-24-2006, 10:44 PM
Also if you don't think Hardcore Punk existed, I tip my hat to you for being able to completely ignore a counter culture with 2 decades under it's belt.

Satanic constructs, nothing more. Lies conjured up by the depths of Hell.
Lazybassplr56
03-25-2006, 12:26 AM
Good Hardcore Punk bands:

Career Suicide
****ed Up
Broken Needle
I Object!
Direct Control
Haymaker
A.N.S.
Strung Up

....just to name a few.
heyimsheep1
03-25-2006, 12:59 AM
i'm starting a hardcore punk band soon :) we just need to find a decent guitarist
No you don't! :p
Ghostfire3
03-25-2006, 01:42 AM
I'll take '80s hardcore over current hardcore any day.
faith and fiction
03-25-2006, 01:49 AM
I'll take '80s hardcore over current hardcore any day.Yes, we know, you're really cool and whatnot.

Now back to the point of the thread: hardcore still exists.
Brain Toad
03-25-2006, 01:55 AM
I'll take '80s hardcore over current hardcore any day.

As would I, but I'd take modern hardcore over modern hardcore-punk in the styles of the 80s. I like it, but some of it just isn't as good as the orginial 80s bands or the modern hardcore bands. Career Suicide and ****ed Up are fun though.
Ghostfire3
03-25-2006, 01:56 AM
Yes, we know, you're really cool and whatnot.

Now back to the point of the thread: hardcore still exists.

What do you mean "yes, we know" that's the first time I said it.
Brain Toad
03-25-2006, 01:58 AM
What do you mean "yes, we know" that's the first time I said it.
But many others have said it before you. It's a common complaint by punks (one I used to use myself) who have some sort of hatred for modern hardcore, but feel the need to love 80s hardcore and bring it up.
Ghostfire3
03-25-2006, 02:00 AM
Oh, I see. I didn't mean to be hating on current Hardcore. I was just saying that 80s Hardcore is great stuff.
IgniteYourAvail
03-25-2006, 05:15 PM
In the words of Madball:

HARDCORE! STILL LIVES!
Flagjacket
03-25-2006, 05:24 PM
In the words of Madball:

HARDCORE! STILL LIVES!
OMG billy your avatar is a Gunbound thingy! I sucked with that one. My thang was the elephant.
Liebensaft
03-26-2006, 12:42 PM
Aw man. I wish I was here for this thread.

Hardcore died in '82, dude. Duh. All punx know that.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-26-2006, 12:44 PM
http://www.derangedrecords.com/
Skippy Prat
03-26-2006, 02:07 PM
****in emo kids are killing hardcore with theyre gay *** ninja fighting dancing and saying theyre hardcore..........but we know better
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-26-2006, 02:14 PM
nobody is killing hardcore.
sketchyjoe
03-26-2006, 02:33 PM
Except this guy:****in emo kids are killing hardcore with theyre gay *** ninja fighting dancing and saying theyre hardcore..........but we know better
Brain Toad
03-26-2006, 02:38 PM
****in emo kids are killing hardcore with theyre gay *** ninja fighting dancing and saying theyre hardcore..........but we know better
In the words of Madball:

HARDCORE! STILL LIVES!

...
Culture Shock
03-26-2006, 03:04 PM
****in emo kids are killing hardcore with theyre gay *** ninja fighting dancing and saying theyre hardcore..........but we know better

Speaking of which, what is everyone's opinion of this new trend? I am not really a fan of hardcore and I would like to know what you guys think.
DaveToopes
03-26-2006, 03:10 PM
I like some of it, and some I don't like at all.
Brain Toad
03-26-2006, 03:18 PM
I used to hate modern hardcore. I thought it was ****ty and too metal influenced. Most of all I hated the vocals, the screaming and yelling was too much for me. But recently I grew to really like some of it. I don't like the extremely heavy bands that much and I still hate metalcore. But I've learned to love what's out there, especially the new posi bands and the melodic bands.
Culture Shock
03-26-2006, 03:45 PM
Well, I really just mean the fads associated with it for example, the girl pants, the white belts, etc.
DaveToopes
03-26-2006, 03:46 PM
I am definitely not a fan of the fashion associated with it.
Brain Toad
03-26-2006, 03:46 PM
The scenester/hipster/poser fads are always stupid, no matter what genre of music it claims to represent.
Lazybassplr56
03-26-2006, 03:47 PM
http://www.derangedrecords.com/

^^^^
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-26-2006, 03:48 PM
If anyone is just hung up on 80's hardcore, listen to ****ed Up and Career Suicide. Current hardcore isn't just mosh parts or octave chords.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-26-2006, 03:49 PM
Well, I really just mean the fads associated with it for example, the girl pants, the white belts, etc.
Has nothing to do with hardcore.
Brain Toad
03-26-2006, 03:51 PM
If anyone is just hung up on 80's hardcore, listen to ****ed Up and Career Suicide. Current hardcore isn't just mosh parts or octave chords.

What about group yells?
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-26-2006, 03:52 PM
What about group yells?
you will never take my group yells
DaveToopes
03-26-2006, 03:59 PM
I like group yells sometimes. I don't like when they're overdone though.
CarrionBirds
03-26-2006, 04:52 PM
Hardcore punk never happened. As it doesn't exist now, we can debate whether it existed at all in the first place.

huh

the only hardcore punk band i can think of around now is kill your idols, i dont even know if theyre still together
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-26-2006, 05:38 PM
Kill Your Idols are still going strong.
Feel The Darkness
03-26-2006, 07:08 PM
Annihilation Time

'nuff said.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-26-2006, 07:15 PM
That too.
Culture Shock
03-26-2006, 11:43 PM
Has nothing to do with hardcore.

Of course not. I just wanted to hear your personal views on it. Naturally it will be looked down upon. I just wanted to hear it from your 'hardcore' perspective if you will.
faith and fiction
03-26-2006, 11:49 PM
If anyone is just hung up on 80's hardcore, listen to ****ed Up and Career Suicide. Current hardcore isn't just mosh parts or octave chords.
Octaves rule, f'uck the haters.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-27-2006, 12:02 AM
Octaves rule, f'uck the haters.
octaves are fine, you know what i was getting at.
cuts_like_drugs
03-28-2006, 08:10 AM
Im confused. When you say modern hardcore you are saying CBK, Champion, Modern Life Is War, Bane etc yes?
DaveToopes
03-28-2006, 03:48 PM
Yes.
Jessizzle
03-28-2006, 03:50 PM
HARDCORE PUNK, NONE OF THAT OTHER JUNK! - the casualties
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-28-2006, 04:30 PM
Im confused. When you say modern hardcore you are saying CBK, Champion, Modern Life Is War, Bane etc yes?
when i say modern hardcore i mean any bands that are playing hardcore today.
Brain Toad
03-28-2006, 04:42 PM
when i say modern hardcore i mean any bands that are playing hardcore today.

^^^
DaveToopes
03-28-2006, 05:17 PM
Yeah, but 7 Seconds are still playing and they aren't modern hardcore.

/too technical.
A-Life-Less-Plagued
03-28-2006, 05:20 PM
stop talking and listen to the new ****ed up song

http://www.jadetree.com/news/article/70/660
DaveToopes
03-28-2006, 05:25 PM
That song is awesome. I can't wait for the new album.
Brain Toad
03-28-2006, 05:28 PM
Yeah, but 7 Seconds are still playing and they aren't modern hardcore.

/too technical.

So if a proto-punk band was still playing you wouldn't call them proto-punk anymore?

If you want it to cover all basis, then modern hardcore is any band that is making hardcore right now.
DaveToopes
03-28-2006, 05:32 PM
I never said that.