My Refinished Snare *Pics and Audio* [Archive]

moogoogaipan

03-22-2006, 09:23 PM

Ok... so here's my refinished snare.
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3681032&q=hi (here's audio... check it out and see if you like the way it sounds. Too deep for my taste, but its sounds like a good rock or punk snare.)

and here's the pics.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/moogoogaipan/IMG_0086.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/moogoogaipan/IMG_0085.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/moogoogaipan/IMG_0084.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/moogoogaipan/IMG_0083.jpg

moogoogaipan

03-22-2006, 09:27 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/moogoogaipan/IMG_0082.jpg

fullmetalhaallee

03-22-2006, 09:38 PM

Oh My God that is absolutly stunning!

Undisco Kidd

03-22-2006, 09:41 PM

That looks amazing.

Only thing I don't like is how much blank space there is in the 3rd pic, and the clutter near the strainer. Still, awesome snare.

puppet.master

03-22-2006, 09:45 PM

wow thats dead secks

be interesting to see how much money you could make off it

moogoogaipan

03-22-2006, 09:54 PM

Thanks guys... I'm glad you enjoy the way it looks. I'm gonna put it on ebay tomorrow and see what happens. I'm just curious what people are willing to pay.

Loyton

03-22-2006, 09:59 PM

Turned out alot better than Id thought.

Juicy_Forlorn

03-22-2006, 10:00 PM

Wow, that looks beautiful. Nice job :)
I'm interested to see how your other snare with the dragons is going to turn out.

Loyton

03-22-2006, 10:02 PM

Wow, that looks beautiful. Nice job :)
I'm interested to see how your other snare with the dragons is going to turn out.

Not positive, but I think he scratched that idea.

Confirm/deny?

moogoogaipan

03-22-2006, 10:10 PM

Not positive, but I think he scratched that idea.

Confirm/deny?
for now... i'm confirming. I will do it next... but I scrapped it for this snare. If this one brings in some money then I'll buy another shell and do it again.

drummingducktape

03-22-2006, 10:10 PM

dude that looks and sounds so awesome. nice work

moogoogaipan

03-22-2006, 10:32 PM

thanks guys.

InCasinoOut

03-22-2006, 10:33 PM

damn that is niiiiiiice. good job:thumb:

osiecki

03-22-2006, 11:05 PM

Absolutely birlliant. Get new hardware and more pics kthxxxx! :)

moogoogaipan

03-22-2006, 11:10 PM

well... I thought about hardware, but I'm not ready to throw down $60.00 dollars on something that isn't guaranteed to bring returns. My checking account is running low and I still have to save at least $30 for the Sonny Rollins concert this Sunday.
It will be a must on my later project, but money is tight right now.

osiecki

03-22-2006, 11:43 PM

Aah, ok. The Tama lugs are ruining it for me though. :(

moogoogaipan

03-22-2006, 11:47 PM

I'll say. That was also the killer for me... but overall I think it's an ok look. When it's incorporated into the set, it looks fine.
I did think about that though, I wasn't trying to be tasteless:thumb:

slickrick1688

03-22-2006, 11:50 PM

Oh my god! Sexiest drum ive seen....

LoneStarDrummer

03-23-2006, 12:08 AM

me gusto, hombre. me gusto mucho.

that's pretty badass looking.

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 12:15 AM

thanks again... the reception of this snare is a lot better than I expected and I thank you all for the positive feedback.

puppet.master

03-23-2006, 01:21 AM

when you put it on ebay make sure to give us a link so we can follow and prolly bid

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 01:27 AM

aye aye... will do. Good fun for everyone...

don't be surprised by a high "buy it now" price. I'm just gonna push my luck and see what exactly I can push for it. You guys are smart and might not pay as much as I'm gonna put up, but there's some people out there willing to spend that kind of money. a.k.a. rich kids.
the reserve will be lower... but I just gotta see.

puppet.master

03-23-2006, 01:36 AM

not bad thinking

Aaron

03-23-2006, 02:09 AM

Is that an artwood or is it a rockstar? Woah man, that's superb. If you were in australia I'd put down serious money for that. You going to put a better batter on there though? ;)

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 02:14 AM

You going to put a better batter on there though? ;)
It's a Rockstar.
I went to Guitar Center today looking for a Remo Fiberskyn, cause It would look good with it, but they were out. I'm gonna go in tomorrow and purchase a simple Coated Amb and maybe a new reso. Depends...

Aaron

03-23-2006, 02:20 AM

Get a coated-amb thats only been played with brushes, thats the look your after, grimey but textured

destroyer of senses

03-23-2006, 02:21 AM

looks good... but is that rice paper going to last and not get all chiped up???

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 02:22 AM

Get a coated-amb thats only been played with brushes, thats the look your after, grimey but textured
It would take me a while to get that. plus I'm hoping the buyer will be smart enough to realize that it's his responsibility to change the head.
I don't know... do most buyers anticipate using the heads that come with the drum for a long while.

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 02:23 AM

looks good... but is that rice paper going to last and not get all chiped up???
the rice paper is covered with about 15 layers of clearcoat.

Aaron

03-23-2006, 02:34 AM

I think most buyers anticipate buying a new head, but the head itself is very visible to the buyer and can influence purchasing, IMO.

Tim

03-23-2006, 03:25 AM

oh wow that thing looks awesome. Im sure youll get a good amount on ebay for it.

GhostNote

03-23-2006, 04:28 AM

Holy ****! dude, you're one badass drawer man that thing is oh so sweet! I'll bet you'll get a decent price for that on Ebay. Fukin sweet bro, keep that up. When i gather some money, i may but one off of you in the future.

-GN

knie

03-23-2006, 05:32 AM

Pretty professional looking, great job.

beaker_747

03-23-2006, 05:40 AM

Holy ****ing sex!!

White Riot!

03-23-2006, 05:45 AM

its nice but I wouldnt sell it

jversluis88

03-23-2006, 06:14 AM

The style and colours of the painting blend very well with the finish of the shell. Very nice looking.

I love the audio also. Unless I missed it in a previous post, what kind of shell is that?

GhostGrooveMike

03-23-2006, 06:17 AM

best refinished snare on here

Drum Phil

03-23-2006, 06:20 AM

Wow. Just wow. Thats all i can say man.

It kinda has this oriental vintage look going on which i like a lot.

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 06:45 AM

The style and colours of the painting blend very well with the finish of the shell. Very nice looking.

I love the audio also. Unless I missed it in a previous post, what kind of shell is that?
the reason they blend so well is because the finish of the shell is rice paper. I used spray adhesive to cover the standard Tama Rockstar shell with rice paper, painted the picture and then coated it with about 15 layers of clearcoat to seal the image and to secure the paper.

by the way... thanks for the positive response guys. Much better feedback than was expected.

RichHunt

03-23-2006, 08:56 AM

Very, very nice. I'm jealous.

Ming-a-Ling

03-23-2006, 09:03 AM

I still have to save at least $30 for the Sonny Rollins concert this Sunday.

I wish I lived in Knoxville right about now :( Sonny has been one of my favorite musicians for a long time now.

Nice job and the snare though.

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 09:48 AM

I wish I lived in Knoxville right about now :( Sonny has been one of my favorite musicians for a long time now.

yep, I must go and see him. He's not long for this world... and I don't want to miss an opportunity to see him in person.

In other news. I put a Coated Amb on the drum. I'll get some new audio up... it sounds much crisper now.

Joonas P

03-23-2006, 09:51 AM

I really like it! A whole drumset with that same finish would be stunning!

So you painted the trees yourself? That's really good work!

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 09:54 AM

So you painted the trees yourself? That's really good work!
Thanks... I enjoy painting.

I was thinking the same thing about a whole kit with that finish. It was such a pain in the *** to strip the stain off that drum though... I think If I do something like that, I'd start from scratch using brand new shells.
Pulling stains out of a drum is the most time consuming, back braking, labor.....
*cries* and I didn't even end up using the wood finish. It's a shame.

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 10:33 AM

ok... new audio of the retuned ambassador headed snare. Fresh off the press. Enjoy it now... its beefy... I'd like to know what you think. If this is the kind of sound you'd want on your kit.
http://www.soundclick.com/util/getplayer.m3u?id=3681032&q=hi

Drum Phil

03-23-2006, 10:48 AM

It sounds awesome with the strainer on :D

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 10:51 AM

It sounds awesome with the strainer on :D
I thought I might as well turn the strainer off for a second... just so if someone wanted to know what the off position sounded like I would have that covered.

Drum Phil

03-23-2006, 10:53 AM

good plan. Its got a lovely sound with the right amount of body and crack for my taste

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 12:43 PM

anyone else wanna comment on the sound of the snare... or the looks?

good news anyways... I'm using one of my parents paypal accounts so that I don't have to wait a million days to put the snare on eBay. Once I get it put up, i'll give you guys the link and you can watch it.

Ming-a-Ling

03-23-2006, 01:08 PM

The audio sounds good man. Make sure to put you have audio available in your eBay auction.

Comments on the looks. I think, for the most part it looks good for your first one. I don't think it looks professional, but I don't think it looks bad. I think you should have tried for crisper lines in alot parts of it. I know that was probably the look you were going for, but, to me, it sorta looks like someone just took a conte crayon and just made a mark. The blossoms also start to run together in areas, which I think looks good for the most part, but there are a couple of parts where the effect is lost on me. It's hard to explain, becuase I think them running together looks fine in alot of parts, but then there are parts where it looks a little off (like, in your 4th picture down, on the blossoms right above the butt.) I think the clear coat over the rice paper looks a little strange too. To me it sorta looks like shiny paper that you glued to the shell, rather then a gloss finish. It also looks like it sorta ripped or something near the badge.

Over all it looks good though man. There are just a few areas that could use improvement. I like that it's very unique, and something you don't see on alot of shells. That's going to help alot when you go to sell it. I would hold off on selling it for a little while though. I use spray adhesive alot, and I usually buy the best I can find, but I've never found one that holds indefinetly. I'm sure the clearcoat would add some life to it, but I can't imagine it would add too much. Maybe try contact cement next time. Dunno how it'd work on rice paper, but I know alot of people use it for wraps. Keep it up though man :thumb:

Zildjian

03-23-2006, 01:16 PM

thats beatiful

White

03-23-2006, 02:41 PM

Wow,you did a great job on that, I really like it.

Ming-a-Ling

03-23-2006, 04:33 PM

I appreciate the feedback.
2 things I must clarify.... this isn't an in your face thing... :smoke:
1) I'm not a novice in the art field in the least... much work displayed in New York from time to time... I am a novice in the Chinese Brush work... But everything is characteristic. The pedals often run together because it's about the flow, not about sharpness. That's stylistic.
2) I didn't like the flow of some parts, but I'm a perfectionist and I'd critique my art till it hurt... so I have to just sometimes let things go.

As far as this stuff goes, It's gonna hold pretty well... It's not just clearcoat.
It's several layers of contact cement dried and then after some drying time a thin sprayed layer of spray-adhesive... guaranteed stick. I've used this method for sticking paper to metal and it's very effective.
Then the clearcoat was applied over top.

but, that aside, thank you. I really do like feedback... but I'm not gonna wait. I'm gonna put it up anyway, there's someone somewhere who will pay money for this... hopefully. I'm not very patient, plus it's not like I have anything to wait for. I'm a student right now, so just going for it isn't gonna hurt...
tis all in good fun.:chug:

Ah, you did not say you used contact cement before, or else I wouldn't have mentioned it.

But yeah, I understand what that type of art is about, and the comment about the blossoms was pretty much for that one part. For the most part I liked how they flowed together. Just not in that spot. And I know what you mean about criticizing yourself to death. I'm probably more of a novice about art and I used critique myself too harshly. Any more I don't take it too seriously..but if you're going to be selling something you gotta try to make sure it's perfect. Good luck in the sale though.

edit: where did your post go??

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 04:36 PM

Ah, you did not say you used contact cement before, or else I wouldn't have mentioned it.

But yeah, I understand what that type of art is about, and the comment about the blossoms was pretty much for that one part. For the most part I liked how they flowed together. Just not in that spot. And I know what you mean about criticizing yourself to death. I'm probably more of a novice about art and I used critique myself too harshly. Any more I don't take it too seriously..but if you're going to be selling something you gotta try to make sure it's perfect. Good luck in the sale though.
yea... sorry.. didn't think not mentioning it would be bad... cool though.

no joke, though, perfection is key to selling. But some people enjoy this imperfect art... which is great, cause it makes my job easier.
But I just want to get this drum gone. Even if it sells for just $200 (breaking even). I just need some money to get a clean start with some smooth shells. The finish underneath the stain was damaged so I was forced to cover it with something

[edit] my other post was long and windful... this is short and gets my point across... my other sounded harsh also

Chippy569

03-23-2006, 04:36 PM

Moog, i'ma suggest you ditch the tama lugs for some small-footprint tubes... those lugs hide tooo much of the work!

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 04:38 PM

Moog, i'ma suggest you ditch the tama lugs for some small-footprint tubes... those lugs hide tooo much of the work!
I know... but money is the essence here. Once I get this gone, then I'll have enough money to start fresh and use the real ideas in my head and keep these drums clean. This one wasn't to par at all for what I want, but it came out decent... I hated hiding the artwork, but it looks alright and judging by the reactions of people in here, there's gonna be someone somewhere who wants this drum...even if for the minimum ($200)

Kainen

03-23-2006, 04:41 PM

holy crap dude that is AMAZING!!!

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 04:48 PM

holy crap dude that is AMAZING!!!

thank you... i'm glad you like it.

to Ming-a-Ling... see my point. Despite it's imperfections...that i'm doing my best to ignore, people still enjoy it... thankfully.:chug:

VTDS_xx

03-23-2006, 04:50 PM

Nice man. I hope it sells well.

Ming-a-Ling

03-23-2006, 05:02 PM

thank you... i'm glad you like it.

to Ming-a-Ling... see my point. Despite it's imperfections...that i'm doing my best to ignore, people still enjoy it... thankfully.:chug:

Heh, way to call him a sucker.

No, I know what you mean, I wasn't saying there wasn't going to be anyone who would want it. What I was trying to say was that I'd feel wrong selling something that I didn't feel I did a professional quality job on it. At least for that amount of money. (I'm not trying to sound like an *** towards you.)

Aaron

03-23-2006, 05:07 PM

thats beatiful
what?

milkmit

03-23-2006, 05:09 PM

methinks you need to post some photos of your snare in the creativity thread man! :)

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 06:04 PM

Heh, way to call him a sucker.

No, I know what you mean, I wasn't saying there wasn't going to be anyone who would want it. What I was trying to say was that I'd feel wrong selling something that I didn't feel I did a professional quality job on it. At least for that amount of money. (I'm not trying to sound like an *** towards you.)
nah, I feel ya. I know what you mean.. its cool:smoke:

[edit] but I would only feel bad if I knew it was going to fall apart. This snare has rarely been used since I replaced it pretty much as soon as I bought my snare... and that paper is on there good. It's not some flimsy paper... this rice paper is thick and it's extremely tough... I've been watching it since I finished to make sure... it soaked in all sorts of clearcoat hardening goodness.
If I thought that it was going to fall apart, then I'd most certainly not sell it.

Ming-a-Ling

03-23-2006, 06:12 PM

nah, I feel ya. I know what you mean.. its cool:smoke:

[edit] but I would only feel bad if I knew it was going to fall apart. This snare has rarely been used since I replaced it pretty much as soon as I bought my snare... and that paper is on there good. It's not some flimsy paper... this rice paper is thick and it's extremely tough... I've been watching it since I finished to make sure... it soaked in all sorts of clearcoat hardening goodness.
If I thought that it was going to fall apart, then I'd most certainly not sell it.

Good, and that's the main thing that counts, that you don't want to sell a sub-par product. I'm sure you'll find someone who's looking for a snare just like this. I hope you can get what you want for it. I hope to one day be confident enough in my drum-smithing abilities to try to sell one. I really wanna try to get good at wood burning. I love the look of shells with art that's woodburned into them.

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 07:57 PM

I love the look of shells with art that's woodburned into them.
that's a classically gorgeous look. Give it a shot... practice on some scraps. The only way to get better is to actually do it. :chug:

Ming-a-Ling

03-23-2006, 08:13 PM

I plan to. Gotta buy some wood burning supplies first and figure out a few techniques. And I have to get better at drawing more realistic stuff

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 08:23 PM

I plan to. Gotta buy some wood burning supplies first and figure out a few techniques. And I have to get better at drawing more realistic stuff
realistic, shmealistic... go for stylistic. As long as it communicates what you want it to.. that's what makes art. Drawing something to look realistic can be done by any artist... truly making your own style is difficult.
You'll find something that makes sense to you... just practice and imitate lots of different styles...
same approach as to drumming.

Ming-a-Ling

03-23-2006, 08:31 PM

I know. I suppose I should have clarified. I draw quite frequently. It's usually pretty cartoony, and lately I've said to hell with shading for the most part. What I guess I meant to say is, I need to get back into practice of drawing with a hard light source for more realistic shading. Normally I just do line work and a small bit of shading, which might work in wood burning, I'll definetly try it, but if it doesn't look quite right, I'll have to try more shading too.

moogoogaipan

03-23-2006, 09:06 PM

Ok... so here we go.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7401682934&ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1

If anyone wants to just see what happens. This is the link the auction.

[edit] If anyone knows why the hell I can't find my auction please tell me. The only reason I found the page was because I sent the link through my account to my e-mail. You can't find it just by browsing the sections or by searching. Please tell me that it updates and get's visible... cause I payed good money... I mean what the fuk.