Just bought a crash cymbal....

[OMGH4X]

A 16 inch B8 Sabian Medium Crash....but when I hit it it sounds completely wrong. It rings on a tiny bit longer then the ride. At the drum kit I use at my school, they have the exact same crash, but it doesn't ring on that long. In songs I hear, the crash only rings on for 1, 2, or 3 seconds. Is it just my type of crash or the tightness or what...?

(It's as tight as it is going to go, by the way.)

[Loser]

Usually if you want to find out if something is related to the tightness of the stand... loosen it and test.

[SkaRabbit]

swap it with the school one.

[FL3P]

You dont want to over tighten it either way and once you get into a song that shouldn't be very noticeable. They arent great cymbals so dont expect too much.

[OMGH4X]

What do I loosen? The stand or the cymbal?

[FL3P]

Loosen the wingnut at the top of the stand

[SkaRabbit]

how do you loosen a cymbal?

[spirit]

Tightening the felts (and I can only assume that's what you mean) would lessen the sustain I'd have thought, due to restricting the motion of the cymbal. But you know the easiest way to find out? Slacken the wingnut a bit.

By the way, in songs, you only hear the crash for a short period of time because there are other instruments that are louder than the "post-crash" sustain of a cymbal. Cymbals are supposed to ring.

[OMGH4X]

Ok, I tried loosened the wingnut, but it didn't really help much.

[SkaRabbit]

use fatter felts.

[OMGH4X]

They're already kind of fat. How fat are you talking? How many inches?

[White]

don't tighten it as far as it can go, loosen it so it can move freely, not too freely but so i t can move. its better for the vibrations of the cymbal.

[rockindrummer]

It is going to ring regardless. If you don't like a ringy cymbal play all 8" splashes.

Cymbals are made to ring out, that ring you are talking about will allow for the cymbal to cut through guitars and other instruments.

Also make sure you keep the wingnut loose so that way you won't crack your cymbal.

[OMGH4X]

Yeah, you won't hear it as much if someone is singing, there are two guitars, a bass, and a keytar playing.

[thedisciple]

You keep it loose you'll keyhole it

[FockerTheLopper]

Sorry to say its a crap cymbal. Don't expect much out of it

[DethChamber999]

A 16 inch B8 Sabian Medium Crash....but when I hit it it sounds completely wrong. It rings on a tiny bit longer then the ride. At the drum kit I use at my school, they have the exact same crash, but it doesn't ring on that long. In songs I hear, the crash only rings on for 1, 2, or 3 seconds. Is it just my type of crash or the tightness or what...?

(It's as tight as it is going to go, by the way.)

Sell it and buy a Wuhan :thumb:

[aznriceball]

wuhans ring forever. what he needs for his situation are ear muffs.

[DethChamber999]

wuhans ring forever. what he needs for his situation are ear muffs.

Tru dat!

[440561]

1)The cymbal you have is probably different to the school one.
2)When you play something your not going to play and wait for the end of the cymbal, you just carry on. Thus the audience wont hear the cymbal from when you carry on playing. You gotta test the cymbal when you're playing not just by hitting it on its own.

[lmldrummer]

i bought a sabian 18 in. aaxplosion crash recently but i just used it in a gig for the first time yesterday and i thought in practice it rang forever, but at the gig i couldn't tell it at all so don't worry about it.
but if you are having trouble you should get a musicians friend magazine or just go to musiciansfriend.com and by "moongels" to dampen drums and cymbals, it works. 5$ for a 4 pack

[Drummer300btx]

^^^ Don't use moongels on cymbals. Cymbals dont need any dampening whatsoever.

To threadstarter: Why didnt you try out your cymbal before buying it? They let you do that.

[Denny]

Cymbals tend to sound different after a while, If it is brand new, that would explain why the older one you use at school sounds different. Its a pretty thick cymbal (I use on at church) so expect it to ring anyway.

[The Ska Man]

A 16 inch B8 Sabian Medium Crash....but when I hit it it sounds completely wrong. It rings on a tiny bit longer then the ride. At the drum kit I use at my school, they have the exact same crash, but it doesn't ring on that long. In songs I hear, the crash only rings on for 1, 2, or 3 seconds. Is it just my type of crash or the tightness or what...?

(It's as tight as it is going to go, by the way.)


The cymbal at your school has probably been used(and misued) plenty. Contributing to it's Patina, which influences sound greatly.

[Killroy]

my 16" B8 crash is my favorite cymbal, when i first got it, i thought it sounded terrible, but after alot of use and after the dust settles, i found i really like it...although i would prefer a 17" AAX studio crash over it... *drool*

[s00peRd00peRmaN]

tape some felt or rubber on the underside, or on the far side of the top if it falls off a lot. should lessen the reverb, and not like its a great cymbal so you dont have to worry about sound quality

[Nicko_Shmicko]

the room is probebly different to the one at school.

[Marky_Mark]

There are different acoustics in both of those playing areas.
<edit>woops Nicko basically said that

[Nicko_Shmicko]

There are different acoustics in both of those playing areas.
<edit>woops Nicko basically said that

it needs re-enforcement anyways :thumb:

[JamesXKillXyou]

swap it with the school one.

hahahaha yes! do it!

[JamesXKillXyou]

an btw, why didnt you test it? they allow you to do that... i mean your giving them YOUR money.

and 2nd of all. crashes are supposed to ring out. If you dont want a big sustain. then you shouldn't of got a medium cymbal. A light / fast crash would be best cutting sustain, would it not?

[styler]

....your crash is as tight as it can go? what?

with that aside.

in songs, theres editing, lots of it.

in your studio room there are different acoustics.

also. you get what you pay for.