Master john myung. i wish i could be like him

[eraman75]

i don't know about you guys, but i really admire this bassist. i wish i could be like him someday.

[EinzingerIsGod]

He is very good. It's too bad DT puts him so low in volume in the mix most of the time.

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

Admire him, but don't copy.

He's one of my greatest role models, as well.

[bottlerocket]

He's OK, I guess. I'm not a fan of his work. I find it boring and I hate his tone. He has no sense of groove, either. For him, it's all technical work and intricate lines, even though he's not as good as he thinks he is.

Marcus Miller > John Myung

Just my opinion, though. I find Myung bores me to tears. I can't stand Dream Theater.

-Gav

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

He is very good. It's too bad DT puts him so low in volume in the mix most of the time.

That's not really true, except on ToT and some parts of Octavarium.

[Pastorius]

For him, it's all technical work and intricate lines,

That's really not true, and is quite an ignorant thing to say.

"Stop, you're being ignorant, it's ignorant!" - Michael Jefferson

[Duncster]

No sense of groove.
Rediculous Gav, just rediculous :lol:
Listen to the groovin on Images and Words :o *Listening to take the time*

[eraman75]

i see. ill try to search for marcus miller. thanks for the info.

[Esp Griffyn]

No sense of groove.
Rediculous Gav, just rediculous :lol:
Listen to the groovin on Images and Words :o *Listening to take the time*

123123123


So true, the bass onthat album kicks!

[Sade]

I don't like Myung either, but the man has serious chops, skill, and groove.
Again, I'm not a big DT fan; but the man is a talented god damn bass player. Very talented.

[burtonbassist_101]

i like myung alot, although i dont really like his tone on some of DT's songs, such as Ytse Jam. but I admire his speed and his tapping abilities.

i do agree with gav on one thing, that he doesn't really groove most of the time. i'd like to hear some myung fretless work :p

[eraman75]

i have his 1st instructional video here and i think i need to improve my hand speed. hehe. its like john myung in slow motion.

[Pastorius]

Christ I hate when people suggest fretless = groovier.

A bassist with groove will groove whatever bass he uses. Fretless basses have become the new in thing, and I hate it.

[bottlerocket]

I'm not saying he's not good, I just find him boring. All I've heard is speed (not really that fast, either). I'll check some other stuff out, then. Reccomendations?

-Gav

[burtonbassist_101]

i have his 1st instructional video here and i think i need to improve my hand speed. hehe. its like john myung in slow motion.

how long have you been playing?

[Sade]

i like myung alot, although i dont really like his tone on some of DT's songs, such as Ytse Jam. but I admire his speed and his tapping abilities.

i do agree with gav on one thing, that he doesn't really groove most of the time. i'd like to hear some myung fretless work :p

Again, what are you people talking about?

First off; they're considered a "progressive metal" band. Heavy groove is not something, in my opinion, that is very significant in the songwriting process.

Plus, listen to anything off Images and Words, or Awake. The stuff grooves like no other. Specifically "Learning to Live," "Scarred," "Take the Time," and "Lifting Shadows."

[burtonbassist_101]

I'm not saying he's not good, I just find him boring. All I've heard is speed (not really that fast, either). I'll check some other stuff out, then. Reccomendations?

-Gav

solar groove
new millennium
glass prison

those are some good songs that showcase myung a little more

[Sade]

I'm not saying he's not good, I just find him boring. All I've heard is speed (not really that fast, either). I'll check some other stuff out, then. Reccomendations?

-Gav

Ok, so three octave arpeggio sweep follows across a chromatic pattern at 210 BPM in 15/8 isn't fast to you?

So sorry?

[Pastorius]

I quite like the bass in Erotomania, even though you'll deem it just speed. Vacant is a good song as well, nice and simple.

Plus, another point is, you don't want a groovy bassist in prog metal. It just wouldn't fit that well.

[Sade]

I don't even like Myung or Dream Theater and I'm defending him. Teehee.

The Glass Prison is a crappy song.

[Duncster]

:rolleyes: If myung threw a funk lick into one of their songs would you say he has groove? No, you would say his bassplaying is out of place for the music. Myung has been put into a lose-lose situation here, give em a break.

Gav- Download Take The Time and Learning to Live.

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

He's OK, I guess. I'm not a fan of his work. I find it boring and I hate his tone. He has no sense of groove, either. For him, it's all technical work and intricate lines, even though he's not as good as he thinks he is.

Marcus Miller > John Myung

Just my opinion, though. I find Myung bores me to tears. I can't stand Dream Theater.

-Gav

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't how a 'sense of groove' is factored in. I think one problem a lot of bassists have is thinking of 'groove' in a funk sense. That's not what Dream Theater is, though. Grooving in a progressive rock band like DT is entirely different than grooving in the sort of project Miller might involved in.

Not as good as he thinks he is? That's simply a laughable statement. If I know anything about Myung, he's not a showoff and he doesn't think of himself as anything extraordinary. That is reflected perfectly in his body of work with DT.

Also, I love his tone, circa '99-'02.

[Pastorius]

I don't even like Myung or Dream Theater and I'm defending him. Teehee.

The Glass Prison is a crappy song.

I love the guitar/keyboard solo off in that song.

[burtonbassist_101]

Again, what are you people talking about?

First off; they're considered a "progressive metal" band. Heavy groove is not something, in my opinion, that is very significant in the songwriting process.

Plus, listen to anything off Images and Words, or Awake. The stuff grooves like no other. Specifically "Learning to Live," "Scarred," "Take the Time," and "Lifting Shadows."

sorry, i was just referring to the stuff that i've hear thus far. i havent heard every DT album. i guess i shouldn't have said "most of the time."

[ebe9]

good bassist.....

prefer others though

[Sade]

I quite like the bass in Erotomania, even though you'll deem it just speed. Vacant is a good song as well, nice and simple.

Plus, another point is, you don't want a groovy bassist in prog metal. It just wouldn't fit that well.

Ok thanks gogo.

Everytime on this forum this is how it works:

/fast player

OMG NO GROOVE

/groovy player

OMG BORING

Ok.

[eraman75]

i am not really a bassist. i was just forced to play bass 'cause we could not find a new bassist. i started playing pure bass for about 4 months now.

[Sade]

I understand where you're coming from, but I don't how a 'sense of groove' is factored in. I think one problem a lot of bassists have is thinking of 'groove' in a funk sense. That's not what Dream Theater is, though. Grooving in a progressive rock band like DT is entirely different than grooving in the sort of project Miller might involved in.

Not as good as he thinks he is? That's simply a laughable statement. If I know anything about Myung, he's not a showoff and he doesn't think of himself as anything extraordinary. That is reflected perfectly in his body of work with DT.

Also, I love his tone, circa '99-'02.

I was just about to comment on that. Myung is very shy. He doesn't like bass solos, being high in the mix, anything. He's as reserved as can be possible. The other band mates push him into solos more than he does.

[Pastorius]

You forgot comparing completely different bassist as well Sade.

"Hey guys, I was just thinking, the bass in the new Iron Maiden album is really cool, isn't it?"
"NO VICTOR WOOTEN IS WAY BETTER THAN THE MAIDEN BASSIST HE IS INFINITELY BETTER LISTEN TO (insert reeled off list of Wooten songs here)"

[eraman75]

i agree with that. john is not a show off type of bassist. his perfect for petrucci and portnoy.

[burtonbassist_101]

I was just about to comment on that. Myung is very shy. He doesn't like bass solos, being high in the mix, anything. He's as reserved as can be possible. The other band mates push him into solos more than he does.

that's very true... good point

[Sade]

You forgot comparing completely different bassist as well Sade.

"Hey guys, I was just thinking, the bass in the new Iron Maiden album is really cool, isn't it?"
"NO VICTOR WOOTEN IS WAY BETTER THAN THE MAIDEN BASSIST HE IS INFINITELY BETTER LISTEN TO (insert reeled off list of Wooten songs here)"

I was going to hit on that too, eventually.

My original comment to Gav was going to be something like:

"Yah man omg peanut butter and jelly sucks I like steak."

[eraman75]

iron maiden is a great band. no question about that.

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

Oh, recommendations:

For groove:
Learning to Live
Take The Time
Scarred
A Change of Seasons
Trial of Tears

For fretless work:
Peruvian Skies
Through Her Eyes

For speed:
The Test That Stumped Them All
Honor Thy Father
The Dance of Eternity
Fatal Tragedy

[peeted]

yea myung is a god. his stuff with platypus/jelly jam is pretty damn good too.

[Roo_bass]

I love John Myung's playing style, it fits perfectly with DT; and he can groove, Lifting Shadows Off a Dream is a great example of this.

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

1,002 posts.

[Sammy_L_D]

Damned good bassist.

As for everyone talking about "lacking groove", what "groove" are you talking about?

Groove is simply keeping the rhythm tight in conjunction with all else that is happening with the song.

In metal, the groove is simply linking with the double kick.

[Sade]

^There you go. Boom.

Kthx go.

[Thunder Fingers]

Meeeeeh....

I realy think even Prefer Phil Lynnot is better than him, phil had a style over him, Muyung dont.... same with entwistle from the WHO, entwistle vs Muyung that is...

I dont think Muyung's solos is impressive...

[Machines]

He suits Dream Theater perfectly. He has the ability to sit back and hold it together, and then to shred along with Petrucci and Rudess should it be neccessary.

He is indeed very shy and modest, which I think should endear him more than a mediocre bassist thinking he's the next Wooten.

Myung cannot be compared to any virtuoso - since he isn't one, he's a bassist in a band. He isn't trying to write solo projects - but I bet if he did, they'd be good.

[bottlerocket]

I was going to hit on that too, eventually.

My original comment to Gav was going to be something like:

"Yah man omg peanut butter and jelly sucks I like steak."

That's...not what I said at all and it's a horrible argument. I prefer bassists that can groove. Myung doesn't groove. I never said he SHOULD groove, I just said I don't like the fact he doens't. I don't like DT nor that type of music. There's nothing wrong with that...I respect him as a musician but I'm not particularly fond of him. =/

Jeez, say one little thing and 340986703498634098 people jump down your throat...:rolleyes:

-Gav

[Phalanx]

If you want to be like John Myung, do exactly what the guitarist is doing an octave lower.

Just so happens that Myung plays with John Petrucci which is why his lines are so tricky

[bottlerocket]

^ The way you put it, you make it out like he blindly follows Petrucci...

-Gav

[katana_manatee]

Well why complain that he doesn't groove if the style of music is not meant to have that consistent feeling that gets you moving?

He is simply doing what fits in a style of music that obviously doesn't appeal to you so why complain he has no groove? How do you know? All you have to say is you don't like his music and that's fine, but to complain he has no groove isn't fair.

I personally really like Dream Theater, I do enjoy a bit of shred and stuff every now and then. Myung is very good at what he does and he has some very good technique.

[bottlerocket]

^ OH MY GOD. Christ, guys, read this:

I prefer bassists that can groove. John Myung doesn't groove. Ergo, I don't really like Myung.

I never said he was crappy. I never said he was bad. I just prefer bassists that can groove. I'm not putting down the genre, nor am I putting down Myung. I just don't like his work.

Holy crap, guys, it's an opinion...jeez.

-Gav

[Duncster]

^ OH MY GOD. Christ, guys, read this:

I prefer bassists that can groove. John Myung doesn't groove. Ergo, I don't really like Myung.

I never said he was crappy. I never said he was bad. I just prefer bassists that can groove. I'm not putting down the genre, nor am I putting down Myung. I just don't like his work.

Holy crap, guys, it's an opinion...jeez.

-Gav
I don't think its opinnion at all. Groove is groove. You can't say someone doesn't have groove. Especially someone whos been playing bass with one of the most talented bands in history for 20 years. Stop saying myung has no groove, and people won't jump on you. Myung does have groove. Myung grooves. Dislike him for other reasons. not because he can't groove. HE GROOVES!
Download Solar Groove. You said yourself you havent head much from them, and you certainly havent listened to take the time or learning to live, so stop basing your oppinion on nothing. Thats ignorance.

[Duncster]

Er.... I just realized this is an argument over the word groove. So I'm gonna stop arguing it. after this post (hopefully)
But how do you like emo bands. Most of those bassists have 1 100th the "groove" myung does

dictionary.com for groove
A situation or an activity that one enjoys or to which one is especially well suited: found his groove playing bass in a trio.
Therefore myung DOES groove, and groove amazingly well.

[Esp Griffyn]

Meeeeeh....

I realy think even Prefer Phil Lynnot is better than him, phil had a style over him, Muyung dont....

Are you on a Lynnot whoring sesh just cause you bought that Ibanez bass? :confused:

[Esp Griffyn]

I prefer bassists that can groove. John Myung doesn't groove.

I, and many others, disagree.

[katana_manatee]

^ OH MY GOD. Christ, guys, read this:

I prefer bassists that can groove. John Myung doesn't groove. Ergo, I don't really like Myung.

I never said he was crappy. I never said he was bad. I just prefer bassists that can groove. I'm not putting down the genre, nor am I putting down Myung. I just don't like his work.

Holy crap, guys, it's an opinion...jeez.

-Gav

All you had to say in the first place was simply you prefer more groove orientated bassists but your words were "He has no sense of groove", but how the hell do you put groove in such a context? The whole feel almost requires that groovy playing not be there otherwise it wouldn't be that style. So by saying he has no sense of groove makes it appear like there is something really wrong about his playing but his timing is impeccable.

At least you have said it is simpy preference but the way you presented it was almost as if it was factual that he had no groove. Having said all that if you don't like him fair enough, and I prefer more groove style playing myself. :lol:

[Akira]

Myung has absolutely insane chops, but I am not really into his playing. I can appreciate it for what it is, but he just seems kind of meh to me. I defiantely respect his abilities though.

[Raiven]

No one else has said it so I may aswell:

"I'd like to see you try and do what he does".

BUt before I post this I bet it's been closed due to someone going off in a hissy fit so I don't know why I'm typing.

[Thunder Fingers]

Are you on a Lynnot whoring sesh just cause you bought that Ibanez bass? :confused:

No, i have just ended up as a Huge Phil Lynnot fan! :p I love his style and way he was!

Im not only whoring him becouse i bought that bass... i bought that bass becouse im whoring him, and iom realy glad i did! :D

[PaulR]

OMG POCKETS!!!!11!oneshiftone!!1!!

[Duncster]

OMG POCKETS!!!!11!oneshiftone!!1!!
I think, aside from all the arguing, we can ALL agree with this bold and true statement.

[bottlerocket]

Whatever, guys, I'll just stop posting in this thread...sorry for any confusion with my post. I didn't mean to say Myung sucks. My bad and sorry if you read my post wrong or if I worded it wrong.


But how do you like emo bands. Most of those bassists have 1 100th the "groove" myung does

DISCLAIMER: This is not said with a mean tone. This is completely void of any sarcasm and is not at all an attack on you.

Have you ever listened to Saetia? Hot Cross? On the Might of Princes?

http://www.myspace.com/onthemightofprinces
http://www.myspace.com/saetia
http://www.myspace.com/taramelos
http://www.myspace.com/circletakesthesquare

Please, don't try to talk about a music genre you know nothing about. I'm not trying to sound like a genre Nazi, but that's a fact; you don't listen to emo nor have you ever heard an emo band. This is what really pisses me off. People always pull "the emo card" on me, saying, "omfg well u listen 2 a janrah with bad bass." It has awesome bass. That My Chemical Romance and Hawthorne Heights crap isn't emo. So please, don't try to bring that up because, I say this as respectfully as possible, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Aaaaaand I'm out! Sorry again for any confusion.

-Gav

[Esp Griffyn]

but that's a fact; you don't listen to emo nor have you ever heard an emo band.

Warning: Above statement may not be fact

Caution: Above statement may be complete BS

[katana_manatee]

Ach it happens Gav, your forgiven. :)

[Raiven]

Refl

Emo defense post number 32536

[Duncster]

Whatever, guys, I'll just stop posting in this thread...sorry for any confusion with my post. I didn't mean to say Myung sucks. My bad and sorry if you read my post wrong or if I worded it wrong.



DISCLAIMER: This is not said with a mean tone. This is completely void of any sarcasm and is not at all an attack on you.

Have you ever listened to Saetia? Hot Cross? On the Might of Princes?

http://www.myspace.com/onthemightofprinces
http://www.myspace.com/saetia
http://www.myspace.com/taramelos
http://www.myspace.com/circletakesthesquare

Please, don't try to talk about a music genre you know nothing about. I'm not trying to sound like a genre Nazi, but that's a fact; you don't listen to emo nor have you ever heard an emo band. This is what really pisses me off. People always pull "the emo card" on me, saying, "omfg well u listen 2 a janrah with bad bass." It has awesome bass. That My Chemical Romance and Hawthorne Heights crap isn't emo. So please, don't try to bring that up because, I say this as respectfully as possible, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Aaaaaand I'm out! Sorry again for any confusion.

-Gav
Fair enough, your right, I've never heard of any of those bands. All the bands that I've heard and have been told are "emo" had terrible bassists who played root notes every song, which is why I said what I said. I don't know anything about emo and you clearly know nothing of Dream Theater, but I'd like you to reccomend me a specific song from one of those emo bands that has a solid "groove" (in your oppinion). I just want to hear it because im baffled by what you take "groove" as. I never thought of emo bands as funky, but Like you said I know nothing about it so I want to hear the groove of teh emo which is stronger then DT's in your oppinion.

(all the myspace links said "unable to load file")

[bottlerocket]

I wouldn't call it groove by my definition, I was going by the definition someone else said that Myung "grooves" in light of prog music or something. I consider groove to be like stuff by Marcus Miller.

Saetia songs:

Postlapsaria, Corporeal, Woodwell, Some Natures Catch No Plagues

-Gav

[Duncster]

He's OK, I guess. I'm not a fan of his work. I find it boring and I hate his tone. He has no sense of groove, either. For him, it's all technical work and intricate lines, even though he's not as good as he thinks he is. Noone had even said the word groove when you posted this. Not that it matters anyway. Argument over?

[bottlerocket]

^ Yes, I never said I wasn't the first person to bring up groove, I was talking about your relation of groove to emo. :p

Yeah whatever...there was no argument, in my eyes, anyway, haha. :lol:

-Gav

[Duncster]

ahh i see. yeah im done :o

[muthafunkabass]

I like his style and il ike the way he's cuts through. Great bassist.

[Left Shoe]

for saetia, venus and bacchus, bassist uses harmonics


*hates myungs playing*

[Riouken]

Yeah man. I agree. Myung has no groove.


I prefer a groove.


I love it when they are grooving, Oh sorry, i meant groovin'. Groovin'. GROOVIN'. Sorry I had to add that. That apostrophe needs to be there if I want to be tradiitonal and old school... thus wiser.




Keep it groovin', on and on.

[naut]

Please, don't try to talk about a music genre you know nothing about. I'm not trying to sound like a genre Nazi, but that's a fact; you don't listen to emo nor have you ever heard an emo band. This is what really pisses me off. People always pull "the emo card" on me, saying, "omfg well u listen 2 a janrah with bad bass." It has awesome bass. That My Chemical Romance and Hawthorne Heights crap isn't emo. So please, don't try to bring that up because, I say this as respectfully as possible, you have no idea what you're talking about.

no offense guy, but you've done your fair share of genre generalization as well.

[mastrrbasser]

i respect myung but i dilike his tone and would really like to see some of his other projects before i can fully judge him (jelly jam and some other stuff)

[Jody LeCompte]

Gav, I hate when you do thinks like that. Why in the hell would Myung olay like Marcus Miller? You know...those genre things everyones talking about lately...

[asshead27]

He's OK, I guess. I'm not a fan of his work. I find it boring and I hate his tone. He has no sense of groove, either. For him, it's all technical work and intricate lines, even though he's not as good as he thinks he is.

Marcus Miller > John Myung

Just my opinion, though. I find Myung bores me to tears. I can't stand Dream Theater.

-Gav

what your saying makes sense (although i am a huge DT and John Myung fan), but i dont really see how you can compare john myung and marcus miller. first becase marcus miller is a soloist, while john myung is in a more of a rythm position. and secondly that they are completely different styles. although i agree to a certain extent, i just dont think of it as a fair comparison in john myung's behalf

*edit* after posting this, i read the rest of the thread and realised this had been covered (plenty), so yea, ignore everything i just said

[Jody LeCompte]

I just hate the "No groove" bull****. Groove wasn't invented on bass, and its not only on bas. Nor should I be obligated to groove at every point and time I'm holding a bass...

[Sade]

For god's sake, groove is simply staying in time. Do you listen to progressive metal to tap your foot and go clubbing to? No. You don't.

I'm sorry also, Gav; but the bassists from the bands you mentioned can't hold a candle to what Myung has to do in DT.

Not to mention you couldn't pay me to listen to that crap.

[Chris K]

Meeeeeh....

I realy think even Prefer Phil Lynnot is better than him, phil had a style over him, Muyung dont...

you have to be ****ing kidding me.

[Riouken]

I agree Jody.


I know Gav never suggested, so this isn't pointed at him. But that all relates to the "roles" of bass. I beleive bass has no role. It's jsut another vehicle for music, however you play it is upto you.

I have come across many many many people. Traditional old schoolers that believe in this clsoe-minded view that bass is there for one reason. And they always seem to try and patronise and seem "wiser" than you. You are looked upon as the little kiddy having fun playing notes, not a musician. It's the egotistical elitism of a conservative twat that gets to me the most.

[bottlerocket]

Holy crap, guys..try to stay with me.

I NEVER SAID MILLER WAS BETTER THAN MYUNG. I said I prefer Miller to Myung because I prefer that style of bass.

Come on, guys, it's not that tough of a concept. Seriously.

For god's sake, groove is simply staying in time. Do you listen to progressive metal to tap your foot and go clubbing to? No. You don't.

I'm sorry also, Gav; but the bassists from the bands you mentioned can't hold a candle to what Myung has to do in DT.

Not to mention you couldn't pay me to listen to that crap.

I never said they were better nor do I care if you like them. :lol:

-Gav

[eraman75]

i don't think the might of princes is impressive though.

[Left Shoe]

i don't think the might of princes is impressive though.
you can think whatever you want, i fell asleep through live at budokan, i doubt that could happen with OTMOP. but thats my personal taste

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

Do not ever mistake Budokan for their peak performance. Dream Theater live is something the experience of which can never be accurately expressed.

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

Also, having had to share bills with emo/hardcore/etc. bands 6+ times before, their sets were horribly boring and simply nauseating on a musical level.

[Left Shoe]

Do not ever mistake Budokan for their peak performance. Dream Theater live is something the experience of which can never be accurately expressed.
that money would be better spent on new diaries and girl pants.

[thelowsoundofbass]

I like myung and DT, they are both extreamly talented.

lowsound

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

that money would be better spent on new diaries and girl pants.

Not if one enjoys Dream Theater more than emasculating oneself by wearing women's clothing and participating in said feminine activity of maintaining a diary.

[BassRevelation1029]

He's OK, I guess. I'm not a fan of his work. I find it boring and I hate his tone. He has no sense of groove, either. For him, it's all technical work and intricate lines, even though he's not as good as he thinks he is.

Marcus Miller > John Myung

Just my opinion, though. I find Myung bores me to tears. I can't stand Dream Theater.

-Gav
totally agree. No groove is borin for me, even if you can spit out crazy speeds with four fingers

[StrangeVision]

All groove is is locking in with the beat or drums or whatever of whatever kind of music you're playing, in which case, Myung does it very well. You people need to stop saying he has no groove, because it just isn't true. Just because it isn't jazz or funk doesn't mean it has no groove. And Gav, you say you are not a fan of this type of music so how can you judge whether or not the groove is present, especially since you say nobody knows what emo is and no one is "qualified" to find a groove in that genre.

[katana_manatee]

I've seen DT live. They put on a very good show.

[Jody LeCompte]

^ I always figured theyd be kind of empty without 10 Petruccis on stage

[bottlerocket]

Holy crap, guys...let it go.

LET IT GO.

:rolleyes:

-Gav

[Jody LeCompte]

Holy crap, guys...let it go.

LET IT GO.

:rolleyes:

-Gav
We're only discussing their live show...

[d-mart]

Does'nt sound that empty, same as any band live really. Does'nt he use loop pedels live?

Theres so much trash talking about Myung but i cant think of another bassist that could do his job as well as he does.

[bottlerocket]

We're only discussing their live show...

Read post a few posts up kthnx.

-Gav

[zink182]

Does'nt sound that empty, same as any band live really. Does'nt he use loop pedels live?

Theres so much trash talking about Myung but i cant think of another bassist that could do his job as well as he does.

ermm.. I think Chris Squire could do it pretty well. or geddy lee.. both prog rock legends..

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

^ That's false. Both Squire and Lee are masters of the instrument, but, on a technical level, they can't touch Myung. Dream Theater requires a level of physical ability and endurance that I don't believe they have. Of course, that's not to say Myung is overall better than either of them, because that's just absurd.

Also, about their live shows: Petrucci uses no loop pedal, and DT shows sound great, even with only 1 of him. :thumb:

[Visti]

I'd like his ability, that's for sure, but I'd use it to play different music. Not that I don't like Dream Theater's music, I just think they could do more.

[d-mart]

like?

[zink182]

classical ?

[Pastorius]

Polka

EDIT: Gav, the reason people aren't letting it go it because neither are you. You're saying you've lost the 'argument' (whatever that is) in a kind of "Oh yeah, you got me. I lose, oh god, you're the best" sarcasm kind of way. Like a father lets his child win at football.

[Jody LeCompte]

Tribal drumming is the absolute coolest thing.

[Pastorius]

Tribal drumming is the absolute coolest thing.

Apart from Myung. Myung is the best bassist ever in any situation.

*holds flame to fuse*

Hey, that's a good emo band name.

[BassRevelation1029]

my, look what this forum has become. Cant we agree to disagree anymore?

[burtonbassist_101]

apparently not...

[Ich Habe Sheisse]

Has become? It's always been like this.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but seriously.

[darrell]

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^^^
The above post is as useful as this thread.

[bottlerocket]

Pastorius: That's not what I was saying at all. It's possible, as it always is with the Internet, that my tone was read wrong, but that's not what I was saying at all...oh well.

-Gav