Pinstripes

[Metaldrummer616]

I have been reading around alot and found that most people on here dont like remo pinstripes or aquarian performance ll drumheads. How come?

[FockerTheLopper]

I think they're alright. They give great tones on low tuned drums.
Most will disagree but if it can happen on my forum it can happen on any set.

[nonsense!]

bcuz if u dont listn 2 rush and u dnt hav ambasdrs u r a n00b

But seriously, this forum gives great advice, but tends to be a little biased. A lot of people just don't like the tone of them. But if YOU like them, use them!

[billdrum]

Yes, they're great for lower tunings. I think they are ok in situations where you need to control overtones, like some mic'ing applications or an especially live room. However, for live generally unmic'ed playing, they will sound dead from 10 feet away from your drums.

[HeLLmO]

i don't think they are perticularly bad, u can get a good low tuning out of the pins, and after u break them in they can sound quite nice. but IMO there are many better heads, so i jumped at the chance to upgrade my pins, now i use coated emps and coated ambs

[ThugsRook]

I have been reading around alot and found that most people on here dont like remo pinstripes or aquarian performance ll drumheads. How come?
because we think they sound like crap, what other reason could there be?

[Trev]

I have pins, I bought them before I knew that people didn't like them. Combined with diplomats, they sound great. Although, I haven't tried any alternatives (on my kit, with me tuning) so I haven't really got anything to compare it with. I want to check out Ambs to see how that'll change my sound.

[Metaldrummer616]

so u like the sound of your pins

[Metaldrummer616]

are the ebony pinstripes like the same just black?

[Drum Phil]

I tend not to like G1's or whatever the remo version is. Im a G2/diplomat (i think thats right?) kinda guy :)

[aznriceball]

http://musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=407411

[ThugsRook]

are the ebony pinstripes like the same, just black?
nope ~ they are different.

[ThugsRook]

I tend not to like G1's or whatever the remo version is. Im a G2/diplomat (i think thats right?) kinda guy :)
G = Diplomat
G1 = Ambassador
G2 = Emperor
EC2 = Pinstripe
Hydro = wet Pizza Box

[aznriceball]

mmm, wet pizza box..

[flasportsfan88]

I got my pins tooned very low, it sounds pretty cool, even tho i have pacific factories underneath.

[santi3hg]

hey whats wrong with Aqurian II Bass head?!

[Metaldrummer616]

nothing, i have that same head on my bass. i like it alot.

[ant_182]

But seriously, this forum gives great advice, but tends to be a little biased.

I agree! I can't standit when people go with the "more experienced" drummers on here because they think they know what they're talking about. I think people should have their own veiws. Obviously ask for advice from experienced drummers, but ignor the "followers". :)

[jversluis88]

I've used Pinstripes. And despite that it was back when I couldn't tune very well at all, I didn't hate them. There are many better heads to choose from with a wider tuning range. But Pinstripes aren't the absolute garbage a lot of people make them out to be.

[Metaldrummer616]

which head would be better for dampening the srum without using any o rings; the aquarian performance ll drum head or remo pinstripes? i have coated emperors on my toms and hate them!!!!!! they requre too much dampening to get rid of the annoying ring, thats why i want a head that deadens the drum. so which one will do that?

[Murd_666]

Pinstripes are great for the larger toms and floor toms but when used on smaller toms it can kill a small tom like an 8 or 10".

[Metaldrummer616]

so would performance ll s do the same thing?

[Black Rose Immortal]

i would go clear g2's when u tune those they are, in my eyes, the best sounding head all around. I don't know how the aquarian heads sound but i would go pinstripe if u want that sort of sound.

[TaylorRules]

I've noticed many people on this forum appear to just take the word of others when they say somethings bad instead of actually going and trying the product in question out.

I personally had pinstripes on my old kit, and to tell you the truth I didn't mind them. I got a nice deep sound that I wanted out of them. The one on my 2nd floor tom (I bought it 2nd hand off eBay. The drum that is, not the head) sounded great, it appeared to be kind of old so maybe that's why. I do agree with Murd though, they do tend to destroy the sound of smaller toms. I completely killed the tone of my old 10" tom, made it sound just dead and flat.

[Metaldrummer616]

ok so ill propably get pinstripes unless someone can tell anything about the aquarian lls.

[Metaldrummer616]

so if i get pinstripes what should i put for the resonance side cuz i still have pearl ones for those?

[jversluis88]

Honestly, I would still recommend coated Emperors for a heavier head. You may hate them, but you just need to tune them correctly. As for resonant side heads, just get clear Ambassadors, or maybe ebony Ambassadors.

[Metaldrummer616]

ive spent countless hours tuning the emperors differently trying to find that good sound i want but i just cant get the sound i want, theres just way too much ring in them. what kind of sound do u get out of ur coated emperors? maybe i just need more practice on tuning. any tips?

[Metaldrummer616]

would i be able to get a good sound out of my coated emperors using a drum dial? since i cant get a good sound out of them by myself.

[Zildjian]

would i be able to get a good sound out of my coated emperors using a drum dial? since i cant get a good sound out of them by myself.

The drum dial is a good thing to have but u got to find ure sound...then use the drum dial to keep it like that....Pins arnt bad heads, i had them for awile, untill my friend stabbed my head with a stick

[jversluis88]

Tune your reso heads higher than your batters, and have your batters fairly low (but not too low). Also, make sure all your lugs are of even tension, if you can.

[Metaldrummer616]

so do u recommend me getting a drum dial? thanx for the tips, ill try that tomorrow

[Metaldrummer616]

jversluis88 wut kind of heads do you use?

[Metaldrummer616]

so would it help the sound of the drum any for me to upgrade my reso heads to an ebony ambassodor. maybe i could get a good sound with that instead of the pearl one,

[aznriceball]

no pins. learn to tune your emps. countless hours does not mean u mess with it every once in awhile and complain.

new reso = BIG difference.

also, i'd wager you dont play out..or even outside for that matter. there is hardly 'ringing' too much when you need to be heard over other instruments or are outside where there are virtually no bouncy accoustics.

[Metaldrummer616]

i tryed tuning the way someone suggested but i keep getting this sound thats like a eeeeeeeOOOOOOOOOOOOOzRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRmmmmmmmmm
i cnat get rid of it

[White]

I plan on buying two pinstripes pretty soom, just for my other two 12X13 and 13X12 drums, jsut for metal riffs lol

[Metaldrummer616]

oh yea, its only my two floor toms i cnat get a good sound out of the rest of my toms sound great.

[ThugsRook]

tune your floortoms reso heads higher, to take out the slop.

by design floortoms resonate more than racktoms due to their depth. you might wanna try a 2ply reso head on your floors if all else fails.

:chug:

[White]

tune your floortoms reso heads higher, to take out the slop.

by design floortoms resonate more than racktoms due to their depth. you might wanna try a 2ply reso head on your floors if all else fails.

:chug:

do what he says man! :eek: Just do it!

[MeaninglessPhoto]

I like them. I use them to record then live I use Ambs. They sound pretty nice on CD. I also put one on my 12x5 snare and goddamn, that snare rings and I have it cranked up and its not dead at all. Its beautiful.

[Metaldrummer616]

ok ye, ill do what he says , ill do i! :naughty:
can u give me some two ply resos that are god for the floortoms. i thank everyone, u guys rock!:chug:

[Metaldrummer616]

for the two ply resos should i just get like the ebony pinstripes for floor tom and ebony ambassdors for all my oter toms? i think maybe i will like my emps way more with new resos !