View Full Version : Probably gotten this before, but why doesn't Hip Hop have it's own separate forum?
R.O. Da CEO
03-08-2006, 10:48 PM
I don't know, seeing as Hip Hop is World Wide and I haven't seen a genre bring together ALL races into one class like Hip Hop has. Just thought it would get more respect.
But I guess tracks like "Dope Money" continue to hold Hip Hop back. Last song on page
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But really I don't get it. I guess it still hasn't garnered the respect from everybody that's in music like i thought it had, but I was wrong. Haha, a musician forum without hip hop, damn, I'm lost.
morrissey
03-08-2006, 11:05 PM
It isn't a slight to hip-hop, but there simply isn't enough demand for it to have its own forum. All hip-hop threads get posted in this subforum and everyone gets along just fine. If/when there is enough discussion to validate subforum requests, it will happen.
Also the fact that a hip-hop forum would get spammed mercilessly by newcomers and even some more frequent users.
DuckinFutch8
03-09-2006, 01:05 AM
And because most of the people here are guitarists, who don't play a very big role in hip-hop, and the drummers and bassists are largely uninterested in it as well, with exceptions of course, and this influences what music people listen to as well...
antiant
03-09-2006, 01:13 AM
how do you know there isn't enough "demand" for it? Perhaps because of that attitude and others is why people kind of "skip" this forum and go elsewhere to find a hip hop forum to connect to, sometimes some of the reasons people don't visit this site that often is the limited amount of music represented, who cares if the forum doesn't have a "majority" what's the problem with that? who cares if there are limited posts at least there's a forum to discuss and eventually i'm sure over time people will gravitate and minds will open to new styles of music, but if you knock a suggestion down everytime what is the point? will get the same tired excuse as always "there's no demand" "hip hop isn't popular" or some other off the wall excuse, by the way hip hop isn't just music there's a lot of things to discuss within the realm of hip hop, but anyways instead of trying and trying to ask for a separate forum people will eventually give up and go elsewhere and it will continue to do this imo with no progression or change...i guess "22 pages" isn't enough of a demand
DuckinFutch8
03-09-2006, 01:18 AM
well, I mean, Ska has like 60 pages in two sections, Jam Band has a lot more too, and I don't think anybody really is asking for those to be their own sections...
antiant
03-09-2006, 01:19 AM
that's because they've probably given up as mentioned...afterwhile you can only beat a dead horse so many times until enough is enough to put it frank
G_Mac07
03-09-2006, 01:30 AM
The Rap/Hip Hop discussion thread has gotten 650 post in 7 months. Obviously, the thread isn't recieving too much traffic, so there is no need for a forum. If that thread was racking up that many posts each month, with a number of other Rap related threads being spawned every couple of days, then a Rap forum might be required. For now, a thread will suffice.
morrissey
03-09-2006, 01:46 AM
how do you know there isn't enough "demand" for it? Perhaps because of that attitude and others is why people kind of "skip" this forum and go elsewhere to find a hip hop forum to connect to, sometimes some of the reasons people don't visit this site that often is the limited amount of music represented, who cares if the forum doesn't have a "majority" what's the problem with that? who cares if there are limited posts at least there's a forum to discuss and eventually i'm sure over time people will gravitate and minds will open to new styles of music, but if you knock a suggestion down everytime what is the point? will get the same tired excuse as always "there's no demand" "hip hop isn't popular" or some other off the wall excuse, by the way hip hop isn't just music there's a lot of things to discuss within the realm of hip hop, but anyways instead of trying and trying to ask for a separate forum people will eventually give up and go elsewhere and it will continue to do this imo with no progression or change...i guess "22 pages" isn't enough of a demand
This is the place to discuss it, nothing is stopping people from discussing it to their heart's content, just like blues, polka, electronica, dance, ska, folk, classical, latin, and any of the other thousands of genres out there.
Bartender
03-09-2006, 06:00 AM
It's just better to keep the forums as far from atomisation as possible. You could have individual forums for a couple of dozen more genres of music; in fact a fair few other forums do. And they suck.
antiant
03-09-2006, 08:17 AM
It's just better to keep the forums as far from atomisation as possible. You could have individual forums for a couple of dozen more genres of music; in fact a fair few other forums do. And they suck.
what other forums are those if you don't mind telling?
Bartender
03-09-2006, 08:25 AM
I can't remember the names of them, because I stopped visiting and had no reason to remember. Sorry. There's one in particular I'm thinking of, but all I can remember is that it was blue and white and had a stupid number of separate forums.
Tomahawk
03-09-2006, 08:45 AM
how do you know there isn't enough "demand" for it? Perhaps because of that attitude and others is why people kind of "skip" this forum and go elsewhere to find a hip hop forum to connect to, sometimes some of the reasons people don't visit this site that often is the limited amount of music represented, who cares if the forum doesn't have a "majority" what's the problem with that? who cares if there are limited posts at least there's a forum to discuss and eventually i'm sure over time people will gravitate and minds will open to new styles of music, but if you knock a suggestion down everytime what is the point? will get the same tired excuse as always "there's no demand" "hip hop isn't popular" or some other off the wall excuse, by the way hip hop isn't just music there's a lot of things to discuss within the realm of hip hop, but anyways instead of trying and trying to ask for a separate forum people will eventually give up and go elsewhere and it will continue to do this imo with no progression or change...i guess "22 pages" isn't enough of a demand
Y'know... you could just make threads about hip-hop in this forum. That's actually allowed. It's not like you're being silenced by The Man here.
antiant
03-09-2006, 01:11 PM
Y'know... you could just make threads about hip-hop in this forum. That's actually allowed. It's not like you're being silenced by The Man here.
I'm well aware of that, kind of "interesting" how you added certain things to your statement which aren't even relevent to the topic at hand (also quite sad)...hmm a bit strange or perhaps hidden assumptions that read so clearly behind the words, but I don't know considering the demographics on this forum as well as other things, it's pretty predictable behavior at any rate all I was doing was merely asking "why" and the main reason for no forum, I got my answer and it rings loud and clear
Tomahawk
03-10-2006, 09:50 AM
That is a very long sentence. Kudos.
You know what's funny?
There is classical genre and there is the popular genre, popular genre gets forums by styles when there isn't even a general forum for classical music.
Bartender
03-10-2006, 01:50 PM
It's not funny at all. Look at the facts that the Hardcore/Emo forum has gotten about 100,000 posts in the year of its existence, and that classical has (maybe) 2,000 posts in total. Legitimacy and history and such have nothing to do with it.
If too many sections were made representing different genres, then there would be no need for this 'other music' section. I assume the idea was to provide a place for these genres to be discussed safely, without spam from some of the more ignorant newcomers or even regulars. For me, the balance is fine how it is. Although I have to say it's a shame that Hip Hop discussion isn't too active around here, it'd be nice to have a few more discussions going on around here.
antiant
03-10-2006, 06:19 PM
Although I have to say it's a shame that Hip Hop discussion isn't too active around here, it'd be nice to have a few more discussions going on around here.
not really considering who comes on here, it's pretty obvious to me at least, you can tell by the way people speak on here, you just have to look closer sometimes and you'll figure out all you need to know, sad, but true and when you "get it" the answer that is, it's best to go elsewhere if one is dissastisfied, no point in expressing your opinion it goes in one ear and out the other for the most part, either that or create your own forum and become your own boss so to speak (wish i knew how to do that@creating own forum)
It's not funny at all. Look at the facts that the Hardcore/Emo forum has gotten about 100,000 posts in the year of its existence, and that classical has (maybe) 2,000 posts in total. Legitimacy and history and such have nothing to do with it.
yeah, I know, it's pretty sad actually.
but I don't really care, because I have better places to discuss classical music :)
Here I can spa... uh post in the pit ect.
antiant
03-10-2006, 06:59 PM
yeah, I know, it's pretty sad actually.
but I don't really care, because I have better places to discuss classical music :)
Here I can spa... uh post in the pit ect.
LOL...so true
Robert Crumb
03-10-2006, 07:58 PM
As much as I'd like to see a hip hop forum around here, but I'm not proactive enough to make a real fuss. There are other places more geared towards hip hop that have decent forums. And I get news and stuff elsewhere. I don't know. Like I said, it would be nice but I'm not holding my breath.
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