need some talented guitar players help/advice

[mcrguitarplaya0]

Alright ive tought myself how to play guitar pretty good in three years. I can play a lot of things by coheed and cambria, metallica, blink 182, greenday, sum 41, system of a down, avenged sevenfold and bands like that.

I just can't seem to come up with good stuff i my own. Ive written lyrics but cant really put a guitar part to it. Im lookin to start a band within the next year or so, so i would really appreciate it if someone could give me some advice on how to come up with soe good stuff

[Strokes77]

www.musictheory.net

[jakerc]

agreed..learn some music theory. you don't need to go real advanced, just maybe some scale construction, intervals, chord theory, modes, etc. and if you teach yourself, make sure you learn how it applies to guitar. you can know all the theory in the world, but if you can't apply it to the fretboard it doesn't mean a thing.

[bee eye zee zee why]

theory is very important but work on your ear aswell, playing what you hear in your head is almost as important, many get by just on their ear but theory is never going to eb invaluable to your playing.

[Alive]

theory is very important but work on your ear aswell, playing what you hear in your head is almost as important, many get by just on their ear but theory is never going to eb invaluable to your playing.

Invaluable means thta something is worth more than you can imagine; its value is too high to contemplate. I assume you meant that theory will be very valuable, not that it won't be invaluable.

[Timm]

you hardly ever come up with good stuff by going comletely by accident (read: screwing around)
you might get ideas though, and if it's just two chords
then you have to start to think about how it should progress from there
theory helps heaps there

and if you write lyrics then just sing them or hum them and think about what kind of music you want to go with that
it doesn't have to be in detail, just a rough idea and then just work on it

[bee eye zee zee why]

i meant it as a negative, sorry if i messed up, i figured i was helping the thread starter rather than giving the rest of the board a perfect grammer lesson, sorry if i posted in the 'wrong section'......

[Maggies_Farmer]

I wouldn't say theory is the most important. Being creative is.
Pretty much all my stuff has come out of just playing around on the guitar.
Theory does help though, but if you are trying to get into theory and you aren't having that much fun with it then just leave it for now.
There's no point taking the fun out of the best thing ever. You can always go back to it later.

Sometimes you might hear another piece of music and get ideas of it.
Sometimes just putting on a beat/metronome and playing can yield something good.
Never sit there and try and force something out, it probably wont happen.
In my experience it has usually been sitting down, maybe watching tv, noodling around, then BANG, a killer riff or something.
Try and come up with melodies in your head. Just try anything, if it sounds good, grab the guitar and work it out.

Obviously if you aren't that great on the guitar then you may have problems noodling around and just playing anything. Just keep playing guitar is the main thing. The more you play the more chance you'll have of coming up with something.

As a rule:
If you are watching tv or posting on a forum, you're probably not coming up with a great song.

[Hep Kat]

i meant it as a negative, sorry if i messed up, i figured i was helping the thread starter rather than giving the rest of the board a perfect grammer lesson, sorry if i posted in the 'wrong section'......

Just be glad he/she was mature enough to help correct your mistake in that manner.

Rather than go, "OMG spelling error! stfu n00b," or something stupid like that.

[Alive]

^^Exactly. I was only making sure everyoen knew what you meant, and not the opposite.


I wouldn't say theory is the most important. Being creative is.
Pretty much all my stuff has come out of just playing around on the guitar.
Theory does help though, but if you are trying to get into theory and you aren't having that much fun with it then just leave it for now.
There's no point taking the fun out of the best thing ever. You can always go back to it later.
Never sit there and try and force something out, it probably wont happen.
In my experience it has usually been sitting down, maybe watching tv, noodling around, then BANG, a killer riff or something.
Try and come up with melodies in your head. Just try anything, if it sounds good, grab the guitar and work it out.

That second bit is good advice and all, but creativity comes easily through thoery.

If you have to sit there and work out what notes sound quite good together (eg a major scale) you are wasting time. But if you play a major scale, you can find out what notes can be easily used and still use nondiatonic (non-scale) notes, where you see fit.

I wasn't having a go at you mate, just putting down my own thoughts.:thumb:

I think what you said comes from you having done enough ear training (wither actually practising it or just playing guitar) that lets you know what notes are goign to sound good, even subconciously.

[Pom-Bear]

Is there a specific way to learn all the chords that fit with a certain scale? or is that the CAGED theory or something

cause i find it easy to solo/improvise in scales but find it hard to find a rhythm line to fit over it since i dont kno all the notes of an individual chords i only kno where they r and some of the names

[wademachine]

i suggest learning a song you like, then get a few idea's of it, and write something where you use some idea's gotten from it, i've made a few thigns up this way, but make sure you don't rip the song off entirely, because that my frund is illegal, and we wouldn't want some asshole to come along with a ****en baseball bat and ****en hit you int ehf cuken groin