[Recording] Opeth - Night in Silent Water

[ironmanx]

http://media.putfile.com/Night-in-Silent-Water-cover

Ive began recording some stuff again, and last night I did this. It's a cover of Opeth's - The Night In Silent Water. I used Sonar 4 for everything except the guitar effects, which I used Guitar Rig 2 for. There is no bass in this yet.

To me it sounds kind of "hollow". I'm trying to find a way to make it sound bigger, hard to explain. Anyone got any tips to tweak the sound?

I am putting my guitar directly into my soundcard. I was thinking of getting a PODXT to help with the tone and effects. Any suggestions?

Anyways here it is, its not complete, I got to do the acoustic part next.

Also I did To Bid You Farewell, and as you know its acoustic. Is there anyway to replicate an acoustic guitar through the PC? This is the best sound I got..

http://media.putfile.com/To-Bid-you-farewell-cover

Thanks for your time.

[Toaster]

For the first recording, it sounds pretty full to me, considering you have no bass. I'm not too sure if you panned your guitars. If you didn't, try doing one hard left and one hard right, or even two in each channel. Your drums weren't loud enough, try making them a bit louder in the mix. The guitar tone sounded fine to me, almost identical to the original, although I think the original had some delay on it.

[Strokes77]

bass will add a tremendous amount of depth to this...

Also like suggested, one of the best things I've learned (i'm new to recording) is the multitracking thing.

Best is if you can record the guitar 2-3 different times, playing it exactly the same... and have each one panned different. If this isn't possible, then even just copy/pasting the track into 4 different tracks, and panning them hard left/right helps alot.

Another thing, imo, you need the BBE Sonic Maximizer plugin. I have posted the link several times, and there should be a current yousendit on guitar forum if you search. It will work wonders on this song.

Also, check out the "Rythm Compression" thread by AES or TBF I think stickied in the guitar forum.

Finally, pod xt will allow you to get better tones imo. especially with the extra model packs... think "big bottom"...


Good luck

[Cain]

Opeth only used two tracks of guitars on most of the Morningrise songs: all he needs to do is put the harmony in either ear and set that up.

The bass on these songs is really hard though, good luck.

And it's "Night and the Silent Water."

[Fretboardninja]

bass will add a tremendous amount of depth to this...

Also like suggested, one of the best things I've learned (i'm new to recording) is the multitracking thing.

Best is if you can record the guitar 2-3 different times, playing it exactly the same... and have each one panned different. If this isn't possible, then even just copy/pasting the track into 4 different tracks, and panning them hard left/right helps alot.

Another thing, imo, you need the BBE Sonic Maximizer plugin. I have posted the link several times, and there should be a current yousendit on guitar forum if you search. It will work wonders on this song.

Also, check out the "Rythm Compression" thread by AES or TBF I think stickied in the guitar forum.

Finally, pod xt will allow you to get better tones imo. especially with the extra model packs... think "big bottom"...


Good luck
yes big bottom pwns... and sonic maximizer is good. the yousendit is expired.. some one needs to reupload it. copying and pasting doesnt help the fullness. and try reamping the guitars

[ironmanx]

Hey, thanks for the tips. hey helped out so much with the overall sound. I applied the panning of left and right to Black Rose Immortal and it sounds wicked!

http://media.putfile.com/Black-Rose-Immortal-cover

Also, how can I go about adding Bass to my stuff. I don't have a bass guitar, and Synth bass sounds horrible. Is there some good programs out there?

Also if you could repost BBE Sonic Maximizer on yousendit I would appreciate it.

[Biancazzurri]

hey...how did you eject the drums? because i know how to play advent and i have only acoustic guitar and it sounds good i think
but the problem is drums
without drums it sounds ****

[ironmanx]

I used a DXI Synth Rack in Cakewalk Sonar 4. The Cakewalk TTS-1.

I don't have a great souding drum program yet, but this will hold me over for now.