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Specialsauce
03-02-2006, 09:34 PM
im stuck in a rut.... i know i can be a good player, but i need songs that actually challenge me.... im pretty much beyond all the songs in te beginner songs thread, but i cant find anything thats not so hard that i cant play it, or so easy its boring and un entertaining for me and those who have to listen to me play...
So it boils down to this - i need entertaing songs, that are chalenging, well take me a while to figure out, but arent so amazingly hard that i wont be able to play it..... help please
thelowsoundofbass
03-02-2006, 10:09 PM
look into the red hot chillie peppers and rage against the machine. also start to learn some theory so you can make your own songs.
lowsound
neatobassman
03-03-2006, 01:07 AM
Primus and Rush. Also, start learning theory and playing with other people. And if you're already in a band, or jam with certian people, branch out and play with other people, that will help you hear different influences and all that jazz.
Led_Zeppelin678
03-03-2006, 01:20 AM
Primus and Rush. Also, start learning theory and playing with other people. And if you're already in a band, or jam with certian people, branch out and play with other people, that will help you hear different influences and all that jazz.
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The Complete Idiot's Guide To Music Theory is an INCREDIBLE book if you want to try and learn some theory. Playing with other musicians will make you much better yourself.
aarono
03-03-2006, 01:23 AM
I find the bass to be a social instrument. I'm not in a band due to living in a redneck town (very few musicians), but one time I did doodle around with my friend when he was on keyboard. We didn't accomplish much or sound good, but damn did I have a fun time.
Buh_Sheeky
03-03-2006, 01:49 AM
Stu Hamm or Billy Sheehan have some tunes that sound fun. Jaco too, but that's just what I'm diggin' at the moment.
I find the bass to be a social instrument. I'm not in a band due to living in a redneck town (very few musicians), but one time I did doodle around with my friend when he was on keyboard. We didn't accomplish much or sound good, but damn did I have a fun time.
Totally right dude. A bass and a keyboard is really all you need. After practices when our drummer and guitar player pack up and leave, me and the keyboard player will stay an extra hour or two and just jam. He'll set up a drum loop, I'll find a groove I like, then he will go crazy on the keys. This is a situation where you definitely need to have something recording you. The other night we came up with this ****ed up Egyptian/funk/trip hop song that was totally out of this world. It was brilliant! But now I have no ****ing clue what it was we were playing.
Oh sorry. I don't mean to stray too far off topic. I don't get very involved with the complicated stuff. I get my kicks by playing Thin Lizzy tunes. They won't pose a huge challenge, but they're fun and interesting.
neatobassman
03-03-2006, 12:46 PM
Totally right dude. A bass and a keyboard is really all you need. After practices when our drummer and guitar player pack up and leave, me and the keyboard player will stay an extra hour or two and just jam. He'll set up a drum loop, I'll find a groove I like, then he will go crazy on the keys. This is a situation where you definitely need to have something recording you. The other night we came up with this ****ed up Egyptian/funk/trip hop song that was totally out of this world. It was brilliant! But now I have no ****ing clue what it was we were playing.
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I totally know what you mean about recording Jam sessions. My band has had so many jam sessions that blew our minds, but we can't listen to them ever again. lol. But I guess that's what makes them great. Kinda like a one night stand
Fast_Food_Klepto
03-03-2006, 01:42 PM
One of the most overlooked albums for great challenging bass would have to be Jean Luc Ponty's Cosmic messenger. ****ing incredible.
2muchket!
03-03-2006, 01:48 PM
Try some Billy Talent, RATM or if you want more of a challenge try some cliff buton era Metallica thats what I'm playing at the moment
SpiderFromMars
03-03-2006, 01:50 PM
try just improvising and expanding on some of those easy bass lines you know. i find you can make any song challenge you like this.
twankie
03-03-2006, 02:00 PM
Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Around The World.
I dunno. This tune was something that certainly helped me build up my chops when I was still learning but you may be passed this point. Fast finger placing, lots of cool little fills and the last chorus is quite fun rythmically (sp?).
chaosMK
03-03-2006, 03:33 PM
I would suggest to focus on technique development for a while. This will improve your playing overall and versatility a lot more than learning songs.
Check out scales and modes to build up your right hand and try as many different variations of them as possible.
Train sick rhythms with your right hand and thumb.
Start exploring tapping, harmonics, tapped harmonics.
These are all directions you can go.
I stopped learning other bassists songs once I got to around your level, and worked on technique. This helped me develop a more original style than a lot of cover masters.
Raz-The-Bass
03-03-2006, 03:41 PM
try the intro to Black sabbath - NIB i usually learn a song in two hours max one and a half days later im only half way there and for a real challeng Led Zeppelin The lemon song (althought the tabs on here are all wrong one is pretty close if u want the proper version ill either scan or tab the sheet music coz i got the book for Zeppy 1 and 2
Totally right dude. A bass and a keyboard is really all you need. After practices when our drummer and guitar player pack up and leave, me and the keyboard player will stay an extra hour or two and just jam. He'll set up a drum loop, I'll find a groove I like, then he will go crazy on the keys. This is a situation where you definitely need to have something recording you. The other night we came up with this ****ed up Egyptian/funk/trip hop song that was totally out of this world. It was brilliant! But now I have no ****ing clue what it was we were playing.
Oh sorry. I don't mean to stray too far off topic. I don't get very involved with the complicated stuff. I get my kicks by playing Thin Lizzy tunes. They won't pose a huge challenge, but they're fun and interesting.
As les claypool says: "if it was that good, you'd remember it" ;)
I have an excellent classical style arpeggio riff i got from bass guitar magazine... is it legal for me to post it? :lol:
Raz-The-Bass
03-03-2006, 04:04 PM
As les claypool says: "if it was that good, you'd remember it" ;)
I have an excellent classical style arpeggio riff i got from bass guitar magazine... is it legal for me to post it? :lol:
ahah nice giff
tapped harmonics.
explain please
Raz-The-Bass
03-03-2006, 04:08 PM
The Tits
ahah nice giff
huh..tabs are back.... iv been gone too long :(
MyFriendOfMisery
03-03-2006, 04:24 PM
I would say something of "The Black Album" by Metallica. All of them are pretty easy Execept for My Friend of Misery, Through the Never, and Struggle within, which are a little harder.
Bplay
03-03-2006, 08:09 PM
Try some of Wooten's stuff, or maybe some metal songs, you know, straight 16ths at 220 bpm :)
rossini
03-04-2006, 05:41 AM
Primus will make you and better and more interesting bass player
Son of Magni
03-04-2006, 12:03 PM
One of the most overlooked albums for great challenging bass would have to be Jean Luc Ponty's Cosmic messenger. ****ing incredible.
Yeah, that's Ralph Armstrong right? He is so SOLID!
Hardinge
03-04-2006, 12:13 PM
try some stuff by the who
Left Shoe
03-04-2006, 01:12 PM
Try some Billy Talent, RATM or if you want more of a challenge try some cliff buton era Metallica thats what I'm playing at the moment
good call on the billy talent, love those guys
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