Lesson Request Thread

[Left Shoe]

so...right now being lesson mod equates to...monitoring a forum that nothing happens in. Im going to say that this is because people capable of writing lessons arent sure what they need to cover or what people want covered. In this thread i want you to post things you want to have lessons written on, and if you feel you are well versed in the subject then feel free to write a lesson. Ill be writing a few myself.

Cheers.

[Sade]

If I wasn't such a racist that demanded immediate banning, then I'd probably write up some more tapping lessons.

[bassistuvdoom731]

I demand a lesson on vibrato. I think. There's a "proper" way to do it, that I completely ignore, but i hear its really easy once you get it. I wanna know.

[Spazzout22]

I demand a lesson on vibrato. I think. There's a "proper" way to do it, that I completely ignore, but i hear its really easy once you get it. I wanna know.

Shake a can of pop, it's the same motion only you don't move your fingers. Or are you talking about string bending vibrato

[Left Shoe]

Shake a can of pop, it's the same motion only you don't move your fingers. Or are you talking about string bending vibrato
write lessons, validate my job now O_O

[bottlerocket]

Stickied, until we figure out exactly what to do with this...it won't get any traffic in the lessons forum and will obviously get way more here.

-Gav

[HaVIC5]

I actually started writing a tapping method article, but I kinda have to develop the method first. It might take a bit, but I'll get it up.

[Guitar_fool202]

id like to see a lesson on slapping and 2 string slapping if anyone could do that. :thumb:

[Raz-The-Bass]

playing scales in differnet keys

[Raz-The-Bass]

ive got a lil lesson on soloing i wanna put up how do u post them?

[Tryxx]

I want Alex to make his whole recording lesson I told him to do.

[Omega Red]

i'll do one, raz i'll hit your subject

[skingle]

Would anyone mind doing a lesson on pinched harmonics?

Preferably with pics.

Thanks in advance.

[Tryxx]

If you'd like one with a pick, you should just check the guitar end of things.

[Omega Red]

If you'd like one with a pick, you should just check the guitar end of things.
i think he means pictures

[Tryxx]

Ah, ok. :lol:

[Omega Red]

i really want to do an indepth harmonic study

[pukeboy66]

i want a lesson on jazz solos

[muthafunkabass]

Can someone do a lesson on pinch harmonics?

[Manticore Guy]

I actually started writing a tapping method article, but I kinda have to develop the method first. It might take a bit, but I'll get it up.

That'll be insanely awesome.
And sade your articles have been great so far man, keep writing them:)

[darrell]

Can someone do a lesson on pinch harmonics?

Are they done on bass? I've never seen it... then again, I've never really paid attention to too many soloists.

[muthafunkabass]

Yeah. Neo-classical metal bass players.

[Omega Red]

Yeah. Neo-classical metal bass players.
like jaco and steve bailey

[Az_Holl]

Are they done on bass? I've never seen it... then again, I've never really paid attention to too many soloists.
Cough Billy Sheehan.

I'd call what Jaco and Bailey do artificials...i know its the exact same as pinchs, but to me its a metal guitar technique kinda thing.

Meh

[muthafunkabass]

Yeah, them too.....

[Az_Holl]

Yeah, them too.....
I could do a pinch one, but my video would only go for 15 seconds and i wouldnt be able to take pictures of myself....

[Sade]

Can someone do a lesson on pinch harmonics?

I can do that.

Maybe I'll do proper sweep and multi-octave arpeggio technique lesson, as well.

[muthafunkabass]

Cool. Yeah, Sade, I like your lessons.

[mastrrbasser]

i put up a lesson on walking basslines/analyzing chord progressions.

[bassistuvdoom731]

Sweet, sounds like we'll be getting some lessons that I'll actually gain something from.

Great thread.

[d-mart]

I can do that.

Maybe I'll do proper sweep and multi-octave arpeggio technique lesson, as well.

Your lessons help me out quite alot, some on sweeping and muti-octave arpeggios would be sweet.

Also some more advanced scale and mode lessons would be pretty cool.

[HaVIC5]

like jaco and steve bailey
Pinch harmonics are distinguished from normal artificial harmonics in that they are played with a pick. Jaco and Steve Bailey do not play with picks.

[Left Shoe]

Pinch harmonics are distinguished from normal artificial harmonics in that they are played with a pick. Jaco and Steve Bailey do not play with picks.
do we have any pick players that do this ?

[PainKiller8191]

it's not that hard, i can do it.

[Left Shoe]

i just wanted an example of a fmaous palyer doing it, write a lesson on it if you want

[PainKiller8191]

alright...

oh i just realized you said write...
no video lessons?

[Viscous Fridge Magnet]

Wouldn't mind a full lesson on three finger technizque if it wasn't too much hassle

[HaVIC5]

do we have any pick players that do this ?
I've never actually seen any bassists that utilize pinch harmonics, but it's entirely possible. I guess the reason is that it generally is easier to manipulate artificial harmonics with fingers on the thicker bass strings than with a pick.

[Sade]

I've never actually seen any bassists that utilize pinch harmonics, but it's entirely possible. I guess the reason is that it generally is easier to manipulate artificial harmonics with fingers on the thicker bass strings than with a pick.

Billy Sheehan does pinch harmonics quite easily without a pick. In fact, it's called a "pinch harmonic" because the way it was originally played was with the index and thumb fingers "pinching" the string.

[Left Shoe]

alright...

oh i just realized you said write...
no video lessons?
i dont care if you do a video or write one as long as you do one

[PainKiller8191]

alright it'll be up in a few days

[HaVIC5]

Billy Sheehan does pinch harmonics quite easily without a pick. In fact, it's called a "pinch harmonic" because the way it was originally played was with the index and thumb fingers "pinching" the string.
I've always heard that called simply an "artificial harmonic", I've never heard the term pinch harmonic applied to how one plays them with their right hand fingers. I know he does it, and a lot of people, most notably Steve Bailey who goes absolutely insane with them, but I've never seen a pick bassist do a pick-style pinch harmonic.

[PainKiller8191]

it's not very common because it's not half as powerful as it is on guitar, making it close to useless....

[pukeboy66]

phil, my band just turned funk.


so ....


can you do a funk slap lesson for me man?

[Left Shoe]

phil, my band just turned funk.


so ....


can you do a funk slap lesson for me man?
thats a big topic, care to be a bit more specific?

[pukeboy66]

well i really have no idea what im doing when im slapping.. and ive never played in a funk position so...

really just a lesson on technique and stuff like that

[bassistuvdoom731]

it's not very common because it's not half as powerful as it is on guitar, making it close to useless....

You need distortion. Ever try a pinch harmonic on clean guitar? It works but its not nearly as powerful. Most guitarists uses distortion on pinch harmonics. Either that, or your just not doing it properly.

[Scooch]

Anyone annoyed they just can't list the lessons and have to be in the recent posts or top rated categories to see what lessons are out there. I just wanted to go on, click music theory, all difficulties and get a list of all the lessons.

[muthafunkabass]

I would just like to say, read the Tritone Substitution lesson! It's great!

[IPolkaLikeThis!]

Have Led Zeppelin 678 post the EVH tapping less on again.

[The_Red_Death]

Anyone annoyed they just can't list the lessons and have to be in the recent posts or top rated categories to see what lessons are out there. I just wanted to go on, click music theory, all difficulties and get a list of all the lessons.

Yeah, I was really annoyed by that too. A list of all lessons in the different difficulties and categories would be much, much easier to navigate instead of trying to find the lesson you're looking for through the recent comments section.

[Brasseur]

ok, im about to start playing the bass and i was wondering, do you need lessons in the bass? i had 3 years of lessons with a lead guitar and i was wondering would they be basically teaching me the same techniques and also is it ok to play with a plectrom?

[katana_manatee]

ok, im about to start playing the bass and i was wondering, do you need lessons in the bass? i had 3 years of lessons with a lead guitar and i was wondering would they be basically teaching me the same techniques and also is it ok to play with a plectrom?

I suggest you make a thread in the Beginner's forum, you will get more people replying that way.

You would learn some of the same physical techniques but fingerstyle is also a good thing to learn. But lessons are not absolutely necessary. They can be very useful on getting you on the right track but you can make do without and you can figure stuff out and learn from the net and so on. It is an idea getting a few starter lessons to get used to fingerstyle technique but when you get the basics down you can go do your own thing if you want. All up to you. :thumb:

[bassistuvdoom731]

How about a lesson on how to apply Double Thumping in (making) music?

[Left Shoe]

How about a lesson on how to apply Double Thumping in (making) music?
like you would any other technique? whats got you hung up on this one?

[katana_manatee]

How about a lesson on how to apply Double Thumping in (making) music?

Er... It is just a technique, if you get double thumbing down you will find a use. First of all learn to play as much as you can of what you already know finger style, double thumbed. All you can do is experiment and learn other people's double thumb stuff. I think that is basically all that can be said on the matter, it is just a different way to play notes.

[bassistuvdoom731]

like you would any other technique? whats got you hung up on this one?

The fact that I cant seem to use it, well, like I can with any other technique. Dont ask me why, I just cant seem to make music with it.

Thanks for the advice though katanaa.

[Left Shoe]

when i first started on DTing quatre told me to just take songs i liked playing or listening to and learn them DTing. it definitley works, also run scales a bunch

[bassistuvdoom731]

when i first started on DTing quatre told me to just take songs i liked playing or listening to and learn them DTing. it definitley works, also run scales a bunch

I'll try that, thanks.

[Radiobass81]

I could try to do some on beggining improv. (w/ the pentatonic scale), hoping my english doesn't fail me.

I'd love to try and do a lesson for melodical playing/chordal playing, or maybe fingerpicking (the only technique I'd say I'm good at...).

[pukeboy66]

id like a lesson on chordal playing jorge

[Scooch]

If someone could post some stuff in the styles section, that would be great. I would like to learn how to play reggae, funk and blues style music.

[Walk In The Park]

Are there any books you all reccomend for learning how to read music on bass and reading music in general. thanks

[Left Shoe]

Are there any books you all reccomend for learning how to read music on bass and reading music in general. thanks
for something that huge id reccomend a teacher

[FunkMetalBass]

I've always heard that called simply an "artificial harmonic", I've never heard the term pinch harmonic applied to how one plays them with their right hand fingers. I know he does it, and a lot of people, most notably Steve Bailey who goes absolutely insane with them, but I've never seen a pick bassist do a pick-style pinch harmonic.

Quick overview.

Harmonics is subdivided into two categories: Natural and Artificial. Then, each of these two styles is divided yet again into three different categories: Tapped, Pinch, and General Playing (I don't think there is an actual term for it really).

Tapped - Tapping the area in which a harmonic is located in order to produce the harmonic. One-handed.

Pinch - Placing a finger over the location of a harmonic, and playing it with another finger, thumb, plectrum, etc. with the same hand. One-handed.

General playing - Place a finger over the harmonic area. With the other hand, pluck the string. Two-handed.

The term "artificial harmonic" basically just means that the string has been depressed, causing the scale of the string to shorten and harmonics to appear in different places. A new point of reference, if you will.

[Walk In The Park]

for something that huge id reccomend a teacher


I would but dont have enough money for one......any good books though??

[HaVIC5]

Quick overview.

Harmonics is subdivided into two categories: Natural and Artificial. Then, each of these two styles is divided yet again into three different categories: Tapped, Pinch, and General Playing (I don't think there is an actual term for it really).

Tapped - Tapping the area in which a harmonic is located in order to produce the harmonic. One-handed.

Pinch - Placing a finger over the location of a harmonic, and playing it with another finger, thumb, plectrum, etc. with the same hand. One-handed.

General playing - Place a finger over the harmonic area. With the other hand, pluck the string. Two-handed.

The term "artificial harmonic" basically just means that the string has been depressed, causing the scale of the string to shorten and harmonics to appear in different places. A new point of reference, if you will.
Several things.

I stand by my assertion that bass player's "pinch harmonics" are not called that when they are played with fingers in the right hand. I've never once heard them called anything else but "artificial harmonics". This may be a technically erroneous term, since there are plenty more ways to play artificial harmonics than just that, but it is the normal terminology.

Two, there are more ways to play artificial harmonics then that. What about the 2&6 harmonic in PoT when you fret the 2nd fret with your index finger to provide the secondary nodal point required for artificial harmonics and then play the harmonic at the sixth fret with your pinky? That kind of artificial harmonic borrows from the technique of violin players who can only manipulate the string with one hand as the other is required for bowing.

Three, "pinch" and tapped harmonics can be played with one or both hands. If its just one hand, though, you can't really do an artificial harmonic.

[Spaceman Spiff]

FMB, your descriptions of pinch harmonics and natural harmonics are exactly the same.

[Tryxx]

Phil, Coffee wrote this lesson quite awhile ago, I didn't see it in there. Figure you could put in solos or something. I don't want to post it because I didn't write it, was wonderinf if you could do something about it.

Solo Techniques 1: Breaking the root.
When I ask my pupils to solo in a scale I always get the same response on the bass: Taking the pattern of the apropriate scale, put it in a place high up the fretboard and play within the confines of the pattern. This is alright I s'pose but would never pass as a worthy solo. It just sounds like soloing in a scale and as we all know, the greats don't sound as if they're just soloing in a scale when they let rip, so I've devised a little lesson to try and combat it:

Take whatever scale you're using but don't play from root to root. Play from the 7th to the 2nd.

eg.

G|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
D|---|-0-|---|-0-|-X-|---|-0-|
A|---|-0-|-0-|---|-0-|---|---|
E|---|-0-|-X-|---|-0-|---|---|

there's a shot of a major scale. The roots are shown as 'X' so try and pick out the normal major pattern. Got it? good. The notes straggling on each side of the scale are what would follow if you went beyond the root. Try it out with whatever scale you're using. You don't have to stick to the single notes just beyond the roots. If you can work them out... go further out. It's all part of building up your 'fingerboard foresight', a must for any bassist.

So if ever you get stuck with just soloing within the confines of single patterns, just 'break the root' and your solos will have that little bit more character to them.
I hope that explains the basics of modes clearly enough. Any questions, don't hesitate to ask

-Coffee


Also, putting in those two sheets that I posted in the Old Forum thread would be cool, and I could send you another larger file over all the scales. (But I didn't write any of these.)

[Tryxx]

I'll try posting the scales one piece by piece.

All Scales

The collection that follows is every scale I have encountered in my life.
All scales are written in the key of C; the tone/semiton relationship can
be figured out from there.We are assuming these strings to be tuned into
fifths (EADG.) This d0cument may be used as long as its state is not
altered in any way, shape, or form; and so long as it is free. The author
of this d0cument is Andrew B. I may be contacted at:
sevas_x-3749263742369-yahoo.com (remove -3749263742369- and replace with
the at symbol "@.") Please tell me what you think and inform me of any
incorrect or missing scales. Thank you.

(Note: modes of scales that do not have names are not included.)


7 Tone Scales:

Ionian (Major Scale) Dorian
|-----------------2--4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|--------2--3--5-----------|-----------3--5--7--------|
|--3--5--------------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Phrygian Lydian
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------4--5--7--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Mixolydian Aeolian (Minor Scale)
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--5--7--------|-----------3--5--6--------|
|--3--5--7-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Locrian Melodic Minor
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--4--6--------|-----------3--5--7--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Dorian b2 Lydian Augmented
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--5--7--------|-----------4--6--7--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Lydian Dominant Hindu
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------4--5--7--------|-----------3--5--6--------|
|--3--5--7-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Locrian Natural 2 Super Locrian
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--4--6--------|-----------2--4--6--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|


Harmonic Minor Locrian Natural 6
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------3--4--7--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Ionian Augmented Dorian #4
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--6--7--------|-----------4--5--7--------|
|--3--5--7-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Phrygian Major Lydian #2
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------4--5--7--------|
|--3--4--7-----------------|--3--6--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Alt Double b7 Harmonic Major
|--------------------2--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------2--4--6--------|--------2--3--5--6--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--------------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Dorian b5 Phrygian b4
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--4--7--------|-----------2--5--6--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Lydian b3 Dominant b2
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------4--5--7--------|-----------3--5--7--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Lydian Augmented #2 Locrian Double b7
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------2--5--|
|-----------4--6--7--------|-----------3--4--6--------|
|--3--6--7-----------------|--3--4--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Hungarian Minor Oriental
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------4--5--6--------|-----------3--4--7--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Ionian Augmented #2 Locrian Double b3 Double b7
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------2--5--|
|-----------3--6--7--------|-----------3--4--6--------|
|--3--6--7-----------------|--3--4--5-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Double Harmonic Lydian #6 #2
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------4--5--8--------|
|--3--4--7-----------------|--3--6--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Alt Natural 5 Double b7 Hungarian Major
|--------------------2--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------2--5--6--------|-----------4--5--7--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--6--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Alt Double b6 Double b7 Locrian Natural 2 Natural 7
|--------------------2--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------2--5--6--------|-----------3--4--6--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Alt Natural 6 Melodic Augmented
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------2--4--7--------|-----------3--6--7--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Dorian b2 #4 Lydian Augmented #3
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------4--5--7--------|-----------4--6--7--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--8-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Neapolitan Minor Lydian #6
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------4--5--8--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Dominant Augmented Hungarian Gypsy
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--6--7--------|-----------4--5--6--------|
|--3--5--7-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Locrian Natural 3 Ionian #2
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--4--6--------|-----------3--5--7--------|
|--3--4--7-----------------|--3--6--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Alt Double b3 Double b7 Neapolitan Major
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------2--4--6--------|-----------3--5--7--------|
|--3--4--5-----------------|--3--4--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Lydian Augmented #6 Lydian Dominant Augmented
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------4--6--8--------|-----------4--6--7--------|
|--3--5--7-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Lydian Minor Major Locrian
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------4--5--6--------|-----------3--4--6--------|
|--3--5--7-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

[Tryxx]

Alt Natural 2 Alt Double b3
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------2--4--6--------|-----------2--4--6--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--5-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Enigmatic Minor Enigmatic
|-----------------3--4--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------4--5-----------|-----------4--6--8--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--4--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Composite II Ionian b5
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------4--5--6--------|-----------3--4--7--------|
|--3--4--7-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Super Lydian Augmented Locrian Natural 7
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------4--6--8--------|-----------3--4--6--------|
|--3--6--8-----------------|--3--4--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Dorian Augmented Alt Alt
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------2--5--|
|-----------3--6--7--------|-----------2--4--5--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--5-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Persian Algerian
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--4--6--------|-----------4--5--6--------|
|--3--4--7-----------------|--3--5--6-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Arabian Bartok
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--4--6--------|-----------4--5--7--------|
|--3--5--7-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Spanish Byzantine
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------3--5--6--------|
|--3--4--7-----------------|--3--4--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Ethiopian Gypsy
|--------------------3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------3--5--7--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--4--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Javanese Jewish
|-----------------2--3--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--5-----------|-----------3--5--6--------|
|--3--4--6-----------------|--3--4--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|


Hawaiian Leading Whole Tone
|-----------------2--4--5--|--------------------4--5--|
|-----------3--5-----------|-----------4--6--8--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

Mohameddan Overtone
|--------------------4--5--|--------------------3--5--|
|-----------3--5--6--------|-----------4--5--7--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--5--7-----------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------------|

5 Tone Scales:
Jazz Minor Minor Pentatonic Major Pentatonic
|--------------------4--5--|--------------3--5--|--------------2--5--|
|-----------3--5--7--------|--------3--5--------|--------3--5--------|
|--3--5--6-----------------|--3--6--------------|--3--5--------------|
|--------------------------|--------------------|--------------------|

Altered Pentatonic Kumoi Hirojoshi
|--------------2--5--|--------------2--5--|--------------1--5--|
|--------2--5--------|--------1--5--------|--------1--5--------|
|--3--4--------------|--3--5--------------|--3--5--------------|
|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|

Balinese Chinese Egyptian
|-----------------5--|--------------2--5--|--------------3--5--|
|-----------5--6-----|--------2--5--------|--------3--5--------|
|--3--4--6-----------|--3--5--------------|--3--5--------------|
|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|
Iwato Japanese Mongolian
|--------------3--5--|-----------------5--|-----------------5--|
|--------3--4--------|--------3--5--6-----|-----------5--7-----|
|--3--4--------------|--3--4--------------|--3--5--7-----------|
|--------------------|--------------------|--------------------|

6 Tone Scales
Whole Tone Augmented Pelog
|--------------------5--|-----------------4--5--|-------------------5-|
|-----------4--6--8-----|-----------5--6--------|-----------2--5-6----|
|--3--5--7--------------|--3--6--7--------------|--3--4-6-------------|
|-----------------------|-----------------------|---------------------|

Dominant Suspended Blues Minor Blues Major
|--------------2--3--5--|-----------------3--5--|----------------2--5-|
|--------3--5-----------|--------3--4--5--------|-------3--4--5-------|
|--3--5-----------------|--3--6-----------------|--3--6---------------|
|-----------------------|-----------------------|---------------------|

8 Tone Scales:
Diminished Whole Half Diminished Half Whole
|--------------------2--4--5--|--------------------2--4--5--|
|-----------3--4--6-----------|-----------2--4--5-----------|
|--3--5--6--------------------|--3--4--6--------------------|
|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|

8 Tone Spanish Bebop Locrian Natural 2
|--------------------1--3--5--|--------------------3--4--5--|
|-----------2--3--4-----------|-----------3--4--6-----------|
|--3--4--6--------------------|--3--5--6--------------------|
|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|

Bebop Dominant Bebop Minor
|--------------------3--4--5--|--------------------2--3--5--|
|-----------3--5--7-----------|-----------3--5--6-----------|
|--3--5--7--------------------|--3--5--6--------------------|
|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|

Bebop Locrian Add 5 Bebop Dorian
|--------------------2--4--5--|--------------------3--4--5--|
|-----------3--4--5-----------|-----------3--5--7-----------|
|--3--4--6--------------------|--3--5--6--------------------|
|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|

Bebop Bebop Major (Augmented 5)
|--------------------3--4--5--|--------------------2--4--5--|
|-----------3--5--7-----------|-----------3--5--6-----------|
|--3--5--7--------------------|--3--5--7--------------------|
|-----------------------------|-----------------------------|



There's the rest.

[Omega Red]

most of those scales are named wrong

[Tryxx]

Then you know what you must do!





Fix it! :p

[Left Shoe]

quatre if you wanna fix those scale names (which i coudlnt really imagine why not, its going to be hysterically fun) then you should go and post it in the lessons section.

tryxx ill make that coffee thread into a lesson tomorrow

[IPolkaLikeThis!]

Have Led Zeppelin 678 post the EVH tapping less on again.


bumped this beaceuse it is important.

[FunkMetalBass]

Oh c'mon, it's so simple. Tap - pull off - pull off - hammer on - repeat.

[darrell]

I'd like to see different slap and pop licks and patterns done. Perhaps tabs and videos... I think that would be really cool. For each video, maybe play the lick at normal speed... then slow, medium, and then back up to speed.

What do you guys think? It would really help me and other countless people here, but someone with skills would have to be willing to do this. It's a little bit of work.

[Soulfly666]

I'd like to see a more in depth lesson on modes. Unless what's already out there is all there is to it. Maybe something like playing a G Phrygian over a Cmin7 chord, and why one is able to do that and have it sound good. There's only so much you can do with just the basics, and I feel something like that would open up a whole can of worms.

:)

[Omega Red]

I'd like to see a more in depth lesson on modes. Unless what's already out there is all there is to it. Maybe something like playing a G Phrygian over a Cmin7 chord, and why one is able to do that and have it sound good. There's only so much you can do with just the basics, and I feel something like that would open up a whole can of worms.

:)
name the notes in the chord, anything with a triad or a 7th arpeggio that contains those same notes is usable

[Dot.]

Oh c'mon, it's so simple. Tap - pull off - pull off - hammer on - repeat.

got tabs, lol?

[Left Shoe]

got tabs, lol?
G - 12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19-12-15-19
you get the idea

[Dot.]

come on, dont be a jackass.

its more than just G-12-15-19 ad infinitum

[Left Shoe]

which song are you talking in particular, you take that pattern and adjust it as you see fit, you are over thinking it otherwise

[Dot.]

I know it is that pattern over and over in different places, and I got that down, but Led Zep guy had some fills and stuff in that lesson that I liked, but forgot.

[Soulfly666]

name the notes in the chord, anything with a triad or a 7th arpeggio that contains those same notes is usable

So if I wanted to I'd be able to use an Eb Ionian, Ab Lydian, or Bb Mixolydian? Or is that more playing in C Aeolian, but just starting on different scale degrees?

[Left Shoe]

its more using a scale that contains the chord tones, like...Cmaj7
C E G B
c ionian, c lydian, e minor +6 etc etc

[Soulfly666]

its more using a scale that contains the chord tones, like...Cmaj7
C E G B
c ionian, c lydian, e minor +6 etc etc

Ahh ok.

[Omega Red]

careful because an emin6 is 1 b3 5 major6

[Soulfly666]

careful because an emin6 is 1 b3 5 major6

So it wouldn't be a good choice? Or if I do decide to use something like that, just avoid the 6?

[Omega Red]

E minor is just fine, so is A minor or a minor 9

[Left Shoe]

careful because an emin6 is 1 b3 5 major6
woudlnt e minor 6 be E G B C?

[Soulfly666]

E minor is just fine, so is A minor or a minor 9

Because it contains most of or if not all the same tones as Cmaj7?

[systemfreak79]

okay. my band, well we are trying to write heavier stuff and more or less "metal" songs. I am tryign to think of bass lines but all my metal stuff is contained on the low e string and barely goes above the 7th fret. should I keep it the way it is? or should i venture up to the d and g strings? or should i combine both?

[Left Shoe]

do what sounds good

[Omega Red]

woudlnt e minor 6 be E G B C?
Emin6 is E G B C#.

[Soulfly666]

Cmin6 is E G B C#.

Cmin6 is C Eb G A, but I'm going to assume you meant Emin6.

[Left Shoe]

e minor 6 would be E G B C

[shortyBASSplayer17]

hey guys
i just wanted to ask
if somebody want to give me a advice for Ibanez 5strings

comments and answers are welcome

[Soulfly666]

e minor 6 would be E G B C

Quatre was right in saying that Emin6 is E G B C#. 6th chords, both major and minor, have a major 6th in them.

[Left Shoe]

hmm forgot about that part , my bad. how would you notate a minor 6th then?

[Omega Red]

b13

[Left Shoe]

lame *hates numbers past 7*

[Omega Red]

well play a chord with a b6 right next to the 5, its going to sound like ****

[Left Shoe]

itll sound like the first inversion of a I7 chord :p

[Omega Red]

of a major 7chord

[rickenbacker72]

id like a lesson on soloing

[Left Shoe]

id like a lesson on soloing
http://www.sputnikmusic.com/category.php?catid=6&i=3&d=0

theres where we keep our soloing lessons, we need more people writing lessons, but that shoudl get you started, if you need anyhting clarified ask in here and we will answer it or have someone write a lesson on it

[katana_manatee]

I'll be doing the blue bossa performance study soon. :thumb:

Although I might wait til my exams are done... So a couple of weeks prob. Ok I guess that isn't very soon. :lol:

[systemfreak79]

should i get a five string bass? i dont want to rely on the low b, but i think it would be cool and uselful to have it. and if so, which one? thanx

[Oz Rembrandt]

Hey, I remember a really extensive thread on here a while back about playing with a pick and puicking technique. I really love a lesson about playing with a plectrum, if anyones interested.

[bassistuvdoom731]

When is Sade coming back? I was looking forward to those sweeping/multi-octave arppeggio lessons.

[Az_Holl]

Hey, I remember a really extensive thread on here a while back about playing with a pick and puicking technique. I really love a lesson about playing with a plectrum, if anyones interested.
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237443

:thumb:

[Left Shoe]

When is Sade coming back? I was looking forward to those sweeping/multi-octave arppeggio lessons.
perma banned + he doesnt want to come back, so you are out of luck

[Kobaia]

When is Sade coming back? I was looking forward to those sweeping/multi-octave arppeggio lessons.
if you can double thumb, or use 4 finger technique i'll make some lessons

[HaVIC5]

itll sound like the first inversion of a I7 chord :p
That doesn't really sound too bad. The b13 next to the 5, unless it's in a dominant chord, like quatre said, sounds like some **** for the majority of the time. You'll rarely see a m13 chord for that reason. However, there are ways to make it sound useful. You can think of it, for example in the key of C minor, as an Abmaj7/C.

[bassistuvdoom731]

perma banned + he doesnt want to come back, so you are out of luck

Damn. and im not interested in sweeping via DT or four-finger.

[Left Shoe]

Damn. and im not interested in sweeping via DT or four-finger.
befriend him on aim, id do it for you but he and i dont get along

[Cerberust]

so is anyone actually going to post videos on here? I could prob offer up some basic slap technique, basic tap technique, and tabs for all the villain themes in the batman animated series. The Joker's is moderately flashy.

[Dot.]

befriend him on aim, id do it for you but he and i dont get along

I talk to him on myspace quite often...

[Left Shoe]

so is anyone actually going to post videos on here? I could prob offer up some basic slap technique, basic tap technique, and tabs for all the villain themes in the batman animated series. The Joker's is moderately flashy.
do it

[Oz Rembrandt]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=237443

:thumb:

Ithankyou

[funkyhoney]

i don't know if this has already been suggested, but i couldn't find it in the lessons section, would someone be able to do a lesson on how to double thumb, and how to best utilize it?

[Left Shoe]

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=49
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=47
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=35
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=81
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=68
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=392
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=375
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=365
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=483
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=482
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=450
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=425
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=486
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=614
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=607
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=699
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=649
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=648
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=645
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=644
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=806
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/article.php?a=724

EDIT: nevermind, those seem to be dead, any idea where these lessons went?

[dyuaru]

I tried using the search tool to find this but it doesnt seem to be working so I'm very sorry if it has already been requested.
I'm looking for a lesson on how to play modern funk bass. I've seen the Flea's instructional videos and they were quite helpful for playing funk but are there any lessons on funk with tabs?

Thanks for the help.

[Left Shoe]

i might write one, im not sure yet

[dyuaru]

If you could I would really appreciate it.
Funk is a style of bass that Ive wanted to pursue for a while now and it would be good if I found some online lessons to help me out.

[Left Shoe]

ill look up some resources, and get something written, funk is all about the feel. its going to be hard to put that in words

[milesflea03]

the topic is really long and it would've taken me all night to read all the requests but I'm requesting a topic on triplets because I CAN NOT do them and it just erks me and messes with my head.

[imnotapunk]

Im just starting to play bass but dont know how to fingerpick could someone tell me how and also whats the benafits to fingerpicking over the use of a pick?

[funkyhoney]

Im just starting to play bass but dont know how to fingerpick could someone tell me how and also whats the benafits to fingerpicking over the use of a pick?

the main reason people use a pick is for; 1) speed 2)tone 3) looks
to get the speed of using a pick with your fingers isn't easy.

picks offer a tone with far more "punch"

anyway, fingerstyle is fairly simple, resting your thumb on one of your pickups is the way most bassists go for. and alternate using your index and middle finger to brush over the string coming towards your thumb and resting on the next string up. say if you played a note on the d string, come to rest on the a.
but if playing on the e string, come to a rest touching your thumb

[willibassist]

the main reason people use a pick is for; 1) speed 2)tone 3) looks
to get the speed of using a pick with your fingers isn't easy.

picks offer a tone with far more "punch"

anyway, fingerstyle is fairly simple, resting your thumb on one of your pickups is the way most bassists go for. and alternate using your index and middle finger to brush over the string coming towards your thumb and resting on the next string up. say if you played a note on the d string, come to rest on the a.
but if playing on the e string, come to a rest touching your thumb

also telling girls that your good with your fingers is a:thumb:

[karmapavementplan]

I think there needs to be more kinda ground up theory lessons. I mean there was one of these, but it only helped me so much. Kinda a lesson that doesn't use loadsa jargon and just breaks it down simply as (at least I know this is how it was for me) it just intimidates people. In trying to learn theory, 9/10 times when I even see a beginner thread with loadsa jargon I just think "what the hell? Screw that I haven't a clue what is being said" - Cheers.

[Soulfly666]

I think there needs to be more kinda ground up theory lessons. I mean there was one of these, but it only helped me so much. Kinda a lesson that doesn't use loadsa jargon and just breaks it down simply as (at least I know this is how it was for me) it just intimidates people. In trying to learn theory, 9/10 times when I even see a beginner thread with loadsa jargon I just think "what the hell? Screw that I haven't a clue what is being said" - Cheers.

What sort of jargon are you refering to?

[funkyhoney]

can someone who has a lot of expirience with ERB's please write a lesson of how to ease the transition from a 4 or 5 string to a 6+?
like what excercises are good (string skipping etc.) for getting used to the extra strings, ustilising them, and not hurting your hands stretching to far.
whatever problems one mat encounter

[Left Shoe]

scales, two or three octave, or (for example) play the c major scale from your lowest c to your highest c

[DaveSavesTheDay]

I'm looking for an Intro to Tapping Guide on 6 strings.

Nothing to eleborate, and it must be a begginers guide.

Much <3 to whoever can help.

[Left Shoe]

I'm looking for an Intro to Tapping Guide on 6 strings.

Nothing to eleborate, and it must be a begginers guide.

Much <3 to whoever can help.
check sades lessons

[DaveSavesTheDay]

check sades lessons

Alright, thanks.

[DaveSavesTheDay]

I get this message any time I try to look at a lesson.

"Fatal error: Undefined class name 'vbulletinhook' in /var/www/html/forums/includes/class_bbcode.php on line 2224"

[Left Shoe]

I get this message any time I try to look at a lesson.

"Fatal error: Undefined class name 'vbulletinhook' in /var/www/html/forums/includes/class_bbcode.php on line 2224"
lessons are working fine now.

and i correct myself, i had forgotten about adams tapping lessons, these are far superior to those of sades.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/lesson.php?lessonid=236

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/lesson.php?lessonid=237

[bassopotomous]

I need scales, scales from around the world that don't fall under major and minor.
It's not really a lesson I know, but I tried posting a thread about it but nobody replied so **** it.

[Smokin' cowboys]

I need scales, scales from around the world that don't fall under major and minor.
It's not really a lesson I know, but I tried posting a thread about it but nobody replied so **** it.


This took me all of 2 seconds to find.. just typed in "bass scales" in google.

http://www.angelfire.com/id/bass/

[Frequently Tripping]

I need scales, scales from around the world that don't fall under major and minor.
It's not really a lesson I know, but I tried posting a thread about it but nobody replied so **** it.
Augmented, in either mode sounds really Egyptian.

HWHWHWHW

[Left Shoe]

Augmented, in either mode sounds really Egyptian.

HWHWHWHW

or
WHWHWHWH

[HELLonWHEELS]

Can somebody direct me to an intro to tapping on a 4 string please. :)

[Left Shoe]

did you check the lessons section

[HELLonWHEELS]

I checked it out. All i could find were advanced tapping lessons nothing for intro or intermediate.

[d-mart]

or
WHWHWHWH

Isn't that diminished?

[bassistuvdoom731]

I could use a lesson on truss rod adjustment. I know theres a general steup lesson, but it's somewhat insufficient. Pictures would help alot, as to sheephead's DT lesson.

[Left Shoe]

Isn't that diminished?

two types of diminished scales
whole half WHWHWHWH
and
half whole HWHWHWHW

[Roogen]

A lesson on double thumbing(i'm not even sure if thats the correct term for it) would be nice, it would be even nicer if it included video! Actually I remember seeing a post with a good video on mx that had vids of different types of slapping and popping, but that was like 2 years ago.

[Akira]

I can't write up a lesson, but check out this video from the master of double thumbing.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=M8hKjYg-FDg

[Left Shoe]

that video didnt help me at all when i was learning

[Akira]

that video didnt help me at all when i was learning

It never helped me either, but I was too lazy to find something better.

[EADG]

I would like to see a lesson on double thumbing that actually helps.. none of them have so far.

Most of the lessons I've read featured such descriptive wordings as "use your thumb like a pick" or "slap up and down", which is already pretty obvious.


I've been unable to grasp this technique for several years and basically need it explained in great detail, at a grade 3 vocabulary level, and spoonfed to me in order to get it.

[Left Shoe]

I would like to see a lesson on double thumbing that actually helps.. none of them have so far.

Most of the lessons I've read featured such descriptive wordings as "use your thumb like a pick" or "slap up and down", which is already pretty obvious.


I've been unable to grasp this technique for several years and basically need it explained in great detail, at a grade 3 vocabulary level, and spoonfed to me in order to get it.

i did this for someone in the casual i forget who. but here you go.
before i dt the g string
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/6174/predtnj3.jpg

drive your thumb through the string
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/595/throughstringhh7.jpg

now using your thumb nail, pop the string on your way back through the string
http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/2852/upstrokedtmk7.jpg

now for the pops.

first off the placement of your fingers, heres mine
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/6861/pluckplacementcm0.jpg

[Left Shoe]

i have both my pointer finger and my middle finger resting against the pick up, this is just an easier way than having them float about.

first pop. (some reason im doing it on the c string for the pops, whatev)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1857/firstpopvt5.jpg

the important part of this is to pop upwards, its the most economical way to do this, it also slams the string right into the frets getting that pop sound you are familiar with, but with much less energy involved.

second pop

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5825/secondpopcx7.jpg

lift up your middle finger like you did your first one, leaving your first one where it was at.



and rinse and repeat

[Spaceman Spiff]

Interesting...

I never tried that with my fingers on the pickup for the popping, but it seems to work pretty well. I always just had them floating, but I think I'll start doing it this way now.

Thanks. :thumb:

[Left Shoe]

i find floating to be way inconsistent, so yeah thats how i do it.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Me too, but I could never find a way around it.

[Pluperfect_Arson]

You should just make that into a video lesson.

I have just kind of gone along with double thumbing from what I have seen in videos, but I, by no means, have it down. I don't use it often enough to be anywhere near fluency.

[Left Shoe]

just send me a video camera

[Soulfly666]

I made a quick little vid on just double thumbing, but I didn't include the plucking part because of lack of time, I might later on though. It's pretty straight forward, just up and down with the thumb. That's all there is to it. It seems that this is easier for people with hitch-hiker thumbs, but since I don't have one, I just grow the nail on my thumb out, and that makes it a little easier to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9TJCF8DCMk

Hope this helps, :)
-Alex-

Edit: In order for the vid to show up well, you gotta wait a bit, it's 28mb.

[Soulfly666]

I think it'd be nice to have a nice little lesson on some more advanced chord theory. Something like 9th, 11th, 13th chords, tritone substitutions and how to resolve them, what notes should be left out or altered e.g. b9 #11, etc., and why. Ahh, my mind is going blank, but if I can think of anymore stuff, I'll add it as it comes to me. I those would be a good start.

[PERFECTXDARK]

i have both my pointer finger and my middle finger resting against the pick up, this is just an easier way than having them float about.

first pop. (some reason im doing it on the c string for the pops, whatev)

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1857/firstpopvt5.jpg

the important part of this is to pop upwards, its the most economical way to do this, it also slams the string right into the frets getting that pop sound you are familiar with, but with much less energy involved.

second pop

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/5825/secondpopcx7.jpg

lift up your middle finger like you did your first one, leaving your first one where it was at.



and rinse and repeat






Wow that helped my Double Thumbing quite a bit,I was floating alot before and I found it way to tireing for me this hleps it alot and more economic.

[PERFECTXDARK]

for something that huge id reccomend a teacher


1,2,3 I think having those books are good to study out of,but a teacher with a good musical background who is good at those styles and of course theory is crucial youll learn alot more then out of a text format.

- Brandon

[Tryxx]

I think there should be a lesson on auditioning of all types. For schools and such, how to pick stand alone bass pieces that are reputable, aranging pieces for them to feel full with just bass, etc.

[Left Shoe]

hmm that could be doable, but certain schools want different things

[Nick]

http://www.ibreathemusic.com/article/157

There's a good place to start on extended chords; written from a guitarist's perspective but still quite decent

http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/

also very good, you can skip right to the theory bit.

[Brandon_S]

I think it'd be nice to have a nice little lesson on some more advanced chord theory. Something like 9th, 11th, 13th chords, tritone substitutions and how to resolve them, what notes should be left out or altered e.g. b9 #11, etc., and why. Ahh, my mind is going blank, but if I can think of anymore stuff, I'll add it as it comes to me. I those would be a good start.

I agree with you, Waits for Left Shoe or HAViC to come to the rescue.

[Left Shoe]

i can teach it to you, but havic can teach it alot better than i can. he should write for like professionally published bass books, i will try to get him in here for this one.

[Brandon_S]

yes!

[HELLonWHEELS]

Can somebody link me too some classic double bass walking bass lines exercises.

[Left Shoe]

check out the lessons section at talkbass, i hope i dont get banned for advertising

[HELLonWHEELS]

check out the lessons section at talkbass, i hope i dont get banned for advertising

First place i looked. They don't have a lesson section, but i did check out the jazz technique place. A lot of help but no specific exercises or scales.

[Left Shoe]

im sure they have walking bass lessons there, i learned from them

[HELLonWHEELS]

im sure they have walking bass lessons there, i learned from them

links? I'll look again, but if you have nay bookmarked or would look to tab some simple jazz bass lines. I just don't really know what scales to work off of.

[Soulfly666]

links? I'll look again, but if you have nay bookmarked or would look to tab some simple jazz bass lines. I just don't really know what scales to work off of.

http://www.sputnikmusic.com/forums/showthread.php?t=487512

[samthebassman]

I have recently bought a upright doublebass and Im looking for a bit of advice on using a bow, any pro's want to help out?

[funkyhoney]

I have recently bought a upright doublebass and Im looking for a bit of advice on using a bow, any pro's want to help out?

german or french?

[samthebassman]

The bow? I have no idea, what are the differences?

[Nick]

they have different grips and if you grip wrong you can fcuk over your hand for good.

(not a bassist...)


I think french is more common though

[funkyhoney]

french is more common as many people think the german way is a lot cruder, and generally has a more adverse affect on your hand/wrist/arm.

French:
http://amazingbass.colorado.edu/FrenchBow1-sm.jpg
German:
http://www.uvm.edu/~mhopkins/string/images/germanBow1.jpg


inspect your bow if you have one already and then i'm sure you could easily find a book or online tutorial for bowing technique. getting a beginner double bass book will help, i used one... and then stopped.

[samthebassman]

Thankyou, it is a French bow, I just sound **** and cant make consistant notes

[funkyhoney]

Thankyou, it is a French bow, I just sound **** and cant make consistant notes

it takes time to get adept at bowing, do exercises like running long open note strokes on all strings, practicing your grip technique and making sure it's one consistent sound.

it's important to keep your wrist straight like in the picture, and move from the shoulder, not elbow.

[samthebassman]

I guess the bow should be kept horizontal aswell?

[funkyhoney]

correct :) i'm surprised some people who actually still play haven't come in here

[samthebassman]

oh well, thanks for your help, I guess practice makes perfect.

[Brandon_S]

Although,Having a Personal Upright Bass Teacher is best,I would like to see a small lesson on the key points of upright and certains things you might be able to work on yourself,even simple things as your stance,Basic Hand Positions,other rules that may apply to the upright and not the electric or vice versa.

[EADG]

Although,Having a Personal Upright Bass Teacher,I would like to see a small lesson on the key points of upright and certains things you might be able to work on yourself,even simple things as your stance,Basic Hand Positions,other rules that may apply to the upright and not the electric or vice versa.


Can't your teacher show you this stuff?

[Brandon_S]

I mean't to say,although haveing a personal upright bass teacher is best.

I wanted simple things to get the ball rolling before I started with my teacher,so I had a better understanding.

[Mort101]

id like to see a lesson on slapping and 2 string slapping if anyone could do that. :thumb:

I second this motion. In fact, are there any slap bass lessons available on this site?

[Left Shoe]

yes, as to where i have no idea anymore

[Jimbobntnr]

someone should ask the mod.

[Left Shoe]

i mean generally thats a pretty good idea, but hes pretty busy watching stupid youtube videos at 4:30 in the morning right now

[Mr. Jiggy Fly]

Hey Left Shoe. I was wondering, if I wanted to write a lesson, would I be allowed to, or is it scheduled (like the Featured Artist section)?

[Akira]

The lessons forum doesn't even exist anymore. If you want to just post a thread with a lesson, you are free to.

[Left Shoe]

you have my permission

[EADG]

Quick overview.

Harmonics is subdivided into two categories: Natural and Artificial. Then, each of these two styles is divided yet again into three different categories: Tapped, Pinch, and General Playing (I don't think there is an actual term for it really).

Tapped - Tapping the area in which a harmonic is located in order to produce the harmonic. One-handed.

Pinch - Placing a finger over the location of a harmonic, and playing it with another finger, thumb, plectrum, etc. with the same hand. One-handed.

General playing - Place a finger over the harmonic area. With the other hand, pluck the string. Two-handed.

The term "artificial harmonic" basically just means that the string has been depressed, causing the scale of the string to shorten and harmonics to appear in different places. A new point of reference, if you will.

I think it's more like this:


Natural = open string only, make the node with fret hand and pluck with other hand

ex. Portrait of Tracy

Tapped = open string or fretted, tap on the node with the pluck hand (usually index finger)

ex. NV43345

Artificial = open string or fretted (usually fretted), making a node with a digit on your plucking hand and plucking the string with another digit (usually node w/ thumb, pluck w/ index/middle)

ex. Birdland

Pinch = same as artificial, but done with a pick.

ex. lots of Van Halen and Between the Buried and Me songs (guitar).. never heard a famous bassist do it but it's possible

Harp = open string or fretted, make a node with your index finger and pick the string

ex. never seen this done, just read about it in a guitar magazine



To clarify, natural harmonics are the only kind that have to be done on an open string all of the time

The confusion between artificial and pinched is that a pinched is always an artificial, but an artificial is not always a pinched (it has to be done with a pick to be considered a pinch)

[Az_Holl]

Ok.. how about a little clarity here. Howabout first of all I separate out artificial and natural harmonics for you people, the way I did for Billy Sheehan (haha I'm so proud I taught him something)...

Natural Harmonics

A natural harmonic is usually the most common kind of harmonic. To play it, as most of us know, you use a fretting hand finger to touch the string gently, and pluck the string as normal with the right hand. The easiest spot for this is over the 12th fret, but 7 and 5 also yield loud and clear results. 4 and 9 carry the same note, and are the next easiest to play.

The way the harmonic works is that the string splits into sections depending on where you put your finger. At 12 the string is split in 2 parts, so each parts rings at twice the sounding pitch of the open string. This means that the 12th fret harmonic is one octave higher than the open string, and therefore the same note as the 12th fret itself.

The 5th fret harmonic divides the string into 4 parts, making a note 2 octaves higher than the open string, the same note as the 24th fret. As you may have guessed, a harmonic at 5 is the same note as a harmonic at 24, which is also the same note as a normal note at 24.

You might be wondering how the harmonic splitting up the string into segments is different from normal playing, as when you fret a note normally, you split the string into one 'dead' segment, and one 'sounding' segment. Harmonics are almost the same, except that you can usually play the same note in multiple places along a string (exception being 12th), and you don't have to keep fretting. For example, if I were to magically fret at the 33rd fret, I would get a very high note, as the sounding length of the string would be very short. To get the same note in a harmonic, I would have to divide the length of the string by the sounding length at the 33rd fret, and play a harmonic on any of those divisions.

Artifical Harmonics

As was just explained, natural harmonics are ways of dividing up the open string into segments, effectively reaching higher and higher notes. The difference with an artifical harmonic is that you don't divide up an open string, but a shorter length of string. How do you make your string shorter? Fret a note. So an artificial harmonic is any harmonic played in front of a fretted note on a string. Types include pinch harmonics, tapped harmonics, the thumb method, and the double fret method.

Pinch harmonics are usually done by guitar players, but, as Billy said by using our nails and a little skill we can do them too. In this case a note is fretted on the fretboard, and the harmonic division is made in the playing area with the right hand.

Tapped harmonics occur entirely on the fretboard. A note is fretted, usually with the left hand, and then the right hand hits the string against a fret further along the fretboard, and the contact with the fret makes the harmonic division. Try fretting a low C on the G-string, then hitting the string with your right hand finger at the 17th fret, you should get a nice high C note sounding.

The thumb method was pretty much invented by Jaco. The left hand frets a note, and the right hand thumb is placed at the location of the harmonic division. You then use your right hand fingers to pluck the string behind the thumb, sounding the note.

The last method is for the 2<6> harmonics in Portrait of Tracy (as well as the 9<12.8>). Fret with your left hand, then use another left hand finger to make the harmonic division. 2<6> is a bit of a stretch though, so try something like 12<15>..

I thought Morps was a good/concise description.

[Az_Holl]

And to my knowledge Matt, im the only person ive heard do a pinch harmonic on a bass with a pick... but someone must have done it.... damn them.

[EADG]

It was a good description, I tried to make mine as simple as possible though


and I do pinch harmonics with a pick on my bass

[Jaded]

You can do em with yer fingernails too.

[EADG]

You can do em with yer fingernails too.

Today I was doing pinch harmonics with a pick and making the node with the side of my hand


it was interesting.

[badtaste]

I would like someone to tell me what exercises I should be practicising. I really need a plan to follow as I'm too lazy to think for myself.

[Spaceman Spiff]

1. Major Scale & Modes
• 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys, asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time acc, dec, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


2. Melodic Minor & Modes
• 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys ascend, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


3. Harmonic Minor & Modes
• 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time acc, dec, acc+dec, dec+acc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


4. Symmetrical & Diminished
• 2 octaves 12 keys acc, dec, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time aasc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


5. Reading
• Rhythmic – Clapping & Slapping Rhythm book MODERN READING TEXT IN 4/4 by Bellson
• Chord Changes - Real Book Walking (ensemble playing)
• Melodic – Bach (traditional prepared piece)


6. Ear Training
• Pitch Singing
• Solfége
• Transcription


7. Pentatonic & Modes
• 2 Octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time acc, dec, acc+dec, dec+ac
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


Key:
ASC=ascend
DES=Descend
ASC+DES=ascend the first, descend the second, ascend the third, and so on
DES+ASC= descend the first, ascend the second, descend the third and so on


Broken intervals: in a scale broken thirds are R 3 2 4 3 5 4 6 5 7 6 R 7 9 R
broken fourths are R 4 2 5 3 6 4 7 5 R 6 9 7 3 R

and so on

Tone sequences: Four tone sequence is R 2 3 4 2 3 4 5 3 4 5 6 5 6 7 R 6 7 R 9 7 R 9 3 R 9 3 11

[Az_Holl]

Today I was doing pinch harmonics with a pick and making the node with the side of my hand


it was interesting.
thats how i discovered i could do pinch harmonics.

[badtaste]

1. Major Scale & Modes
• 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys, asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time acc, dec, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


2. Melodic Minor & Modes
• 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys ascend, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


3. Harmonic Minor & Modes
• 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time acc, dec, acc+dec, dec+acc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


4. Symmetrical & Diminished
• 2 octaves 12 keys acc, dec, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Triads & Inversions 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time aasc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time asc, des, asc+des, des+asc
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


5. Reading
• Rhythmic – Clapping & Slapping Rhythm book MODERN READING TEXT IN 4/4 by Bellson
• Chord Changes - Real Book Walking (ensemble playing)
• Melodic – Bach (traditional prepared piece)


6. Ear Training
• Pitch Singing
• Solfége
• Transcription


7. Pentatonic & Modes
• 2 Octaves 12 keys asc, des, start on lowest possible note and go to highest possible note
• Broken Thirds, fourths, fifths, Sixths, sevenths 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc with chromatic approach notes on a different scale degree each time acc, dec, acc+dec, dec+ac
• 2, 3, 4, & 5 tone sequences 2 octaves 12 keys asc, des, asc+des, des+asc


Key:
ASC=ascend
DES=Descend
ASC+DES=ascend the first, descend the second, ascend the third, and so on
DES+ASC= descend the first, ascend the second, descend the third and so on


Broken intervals: in a scale broken thirds are R 3 2 4 3 5 4 6 5 7 6 R 7 9 R
broken fourths are R 4 2 5 3 6 4 7 5 R 6 9 7 3 R

and so on

Tone sequences: Four tone sequence is R 2 3 4 2 3 4 5 3 4 5 6 5 6 7 R 6 7 R 9 7 R 9 3 R 9 3 11

Purrfect. Thanks very much for that.

[radtaste]

Painfully n00bish question: I've just realised my bass has two volume knobs, rather than two tone knobs. What's the deal?

[Soulfly666]

Painfully n00bish question: I've just realised my bass has two volume knobs, rather than two tone knobs. What's the deal?

That's not exactly a lesson request, but the extra vol knob most likely controls the volume of one of your pickups. Like on one of my basses I have a vol/vol/bass/treble configuration. One of the volume knobs is my master volume, and the other volume knob controls the volume on my bridge pickup. Make sense?

[EADGC]

I would like someone to tell me what exercises I should be practicising. I really need a plan to follow as I'm too lazy to think for myself.

That's kind of a pointless question seeing how you havn't told us what you want to accomplish

but tell me what exactly you want to get better at and want to do with your practice time and I'll be glad to give you some suggestions

[radtaste]

That's not exactly a lesson request, but the extra vol knob most likely controls the volume of one of your pickups. Like on one of my basses I have a vol/vol/bass/treble configuration. One of the volume knobs is my master volume, and the other volume knob controls the volume on my bridge pickup. Make sense?

Well, I figured if I was going to ask a question, it'd either be in the community thread, or make a thread about it (too small a question I thought) or in here, where people turn to more informed people for information. So I decided to ask in here.

And yes, I figured each knob was for a pickup, but I couldn't really tell the differences between combinations of knob settings.

That's kind of a pointless question seeing how you havn't told us what you want to accomplish

but tell me what exactly you want to get better at and want to do with your practice time and I'll be glad to give you some suggestions

Not really sure myself what I want to accomplish. Only thing I can think of right now is to memorise the fretboard better, to the point where I don't even have to think about it.

What else are exercises supposed to do? I guess there are certain patterns to remember (different modes and stuff), learning chords, etc...

[EADGC]

Not really sure myself what I want to accomplish. Only thing I can think of right now is to memorise the fretboard better, to the point where I don't even have to think about it.

What else are exercises supposed to do? I guess there are certain patterns to remember (different modes and stuff), learning chords, etc...


Do you mean memorize the fretboard as in names of notes etc?

there's a few tricks that make that much easier.

one is that any note +12 frets (octave) is the same note name. so if you can add/subtract 12 in your head quickly this cuts your work in half.

one is the 5 fret rule - if you go up 5 frets and down a string it will be the same note (and down 5 frets up a string). This only works if you're tuned in 4ths though.

another would be the octave pattern - up 2 strings and 2 frets is the octave with the same note name.


you just have to use these patterns to your advantage and it will make learning it much much easier.


as for what lessons do that's too open-ended to answer so you'd need to give some examples. Basically, exercises can teach you just about anything depending on what they contain.

[radtaste]

Do you mean memorize the fretboard as in names of notes etc?

there's a few tricks that make that much easier.

one is that any note +12 frets (octave) is the same note name. so if you can add/subtract 12 in your head quickly this cuts your work in half.

one is the 5 fret rule - if you go up 5 frets and down a string it will be the same note (and down 5 frets up a string). This only works if you're tuned in 4ths though.

another would be the octave pattern - up 2 strings and 2 frets is the octave with the same note name.


you just have to use these patterns to your advantage and it will make learning it much much easier.


as for what lessons do that's too open-ended to answer so you'd need to give some examples. Basically, exercises can teach you just about anything depending on what they contain.

Yeah, those basic patterns I've got down. I guess it's all about trying to consolidate those memories.

Well, I'm just trying to replicate what a beginner would learn from a teacher. I'm assuming there's a logical and general progression of things that can be learnt.

[Win A Rabbit]

Can someone recommend me some good lessons/exercises to speed up my picking fingers?

My fretting hand is up to speed, but fingerpicking kills me on bass. Which means I end up playing with a pick more, which means my fingers get farther behind. Vicious cycle.


(I'm primarily a guitarist, but love playing bass every now and then. Am looking to join a band playing bass, but figured I should get my fingerpicking up to speed first.)

[EADGC]

practice with a metronome

always alternate/use each finger an equal amount

maybe look into a ramp.

how many fingers do you use?

[Win A Rabbit]

Most of the time i play with a metronome or drums on my keyboard.

And on bass I only use pointer and middle fingers. Ring and pinky just don't feel right to me on bass.


I guess I'm assuming there are better ways to get up to speed than playing songs/scales to a metronome and bumping it up every now and then.

[Akira]

Not really. Play a scale. Get it perfect. Bump the tempo. Get it perfect. Bump the tempo. You get the picture.

People want there to be a secret to getting good technique, but most of it is really just woodshedding.

[EADGC]

Most of the time i play with a metronome or drums on my keyboard.

And on bass I only use pointer and middle fingers. Ring and pinky just don't feel right to me on bass.


I guess I'm assuming there are better ways to get up to speed than playing songs/scales to a metronome and bumping it up every now and then.


for me it's all about efficiency. That's why I use my thumb, index, middle, and ring. Split the workload between more fingers and your playing will be more efficient. It takes a lot of work though.

if you don't mind using a pick, a lot of people (myself included) find it easier to play faster stuff with one. Then you just need to work on alternating and accuracy.


so Akira's right, there is no secret to it. My advice is to always pay attention to what you're playing all of the time to ensure that you're being efficient, and just keep at it.


but honestly, I think stamina is much more important than outright speed.

[Win A Rabbit]

Alright, thanks guys. I was just coming from the mindset of snare drum, where the key to getting faster cleaner single strokes (or strokes in general) is to go through all the other patterns possible and get complete control over your strokes, not just play singles and bump up the metronome from time to time. I thought there'd maybe be some sort of "finger patterns" kind of thing or something that I wasn't aware of, to get more control over my fingers.

I wasn't looking for an easy way out, just the most efficient way to spend my time.

[Akira]

The biggest thing is to make sure you are alternating fingers every note. Don't get lazy and fall into a less regimented pattern.

[Win A Rabbit]

I noticed that if I'm playing something relatively fast that goes from adjacent string to string, I'll play index on D, index on A, middle on D, middle on A.

Bad habit?

[EADGC]

I noticed that if I'm playing something relatively fast that goes from adjacent string to string, I'll play index on D, index on A, middle on D, middle on A.

Bad habit?

There's no reason you shouldn't be able to do that alternating. But I skip fingers sometimes too. I doubt you'll find any musicians that play by "the rules" 100% of the time.

[Left Shoe]

look no further.

[Joelbassman]

Sooooo...Lessons huh.


Pretty cool if you ask me. What, with the fine section of lessons we have on this site.

Lol I remember when they were the only reason I came on here.

[EADGC]

yeah a lot of them are actually written very poorly.

[Left Shoe]

pfff i tried fixin them, some of them werent worth saving, deleted those

[Joelbassman]

Lol not blaming you Leftshoe, everyone just stopped caring and we lost a bunch of them.

[EADGC]

Yeah you can find much better lessons online with little effort so

[chronopops]

dude like i was hella gonna write some lessons, but i dont know you ****ing submit them.

[Joelbassman]

Calm down pops, jeez.

[FunkMetalBass]

I noticed that if I'm playing something relatively fast that goes from adjacent string to string, I'll play index on D, index on A, middle on D, middle on A.

Bad habit?

Nope. Consider it the difference between alternate and alternative plucking.

[FunkMetalBass]

pfff i tried fixin them, some of them werent worth saving, deleted those

How about my modes lesson? I thought it was pretty good when I wrote it (them).

[chronopops]

I bet it sucked, and had nothing to do with modes.

[Joelbassman]

I remember it, it actually did help.

[chronopops]

Let me see.

[Left Shoe]

How about my modes lesson? I thought it was pretty good when I wrote it (them).

no yours were fine, you knew what you were talkin about. but like sade teaching how to reharm the zelda theme by playin a minor 7th of every note under it, and **** like that, it had to go

[Left Shoe]

yeah dude exactly

[HaVIC5]

Word.

[Left Shoe]

oh they deleted the spam post in chinese, now we look like idiots adam.