Leave it to the pro's, eh?

[Chameleon]

I suppose technically this is another video thread where I rag on some poor innocent kid, but imo this is a bit more valid than your run of the mill "LOL this d00d treyes 2 play vic and fales".

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=bass+expert+village

That's a collection of video's from the same guy. Now I don't really know anything about "expert village" except that if this kid is a representative of them, it's a rather misleading title.

I don't believe to be a good musician you know to know a lot of theory or technique or whatever, but I DO believe that unless you're recognised as having a very unique or special gift (which you could try to pass on to others) you should be qualified in some sense to teach. That means you should have knowledge on just about all available techniques and YES, you should be able to teach theory, and read music, in case your students desire it.

This guy however, makes so many mistakes it's just not funny in that series of videos. I just thought I'd point out that for any beginners out there, these are NOT the kind of videos you want to learn from.

kthxbye.

[Belfast Bassist]

I cant stand that guys voice!! The one about fret markers does not give me confidence in that guy..

[Hardinge]

the last video about making basslines is alright

[Visti]

"and when you mix the slap and the pop, you get sort of a.. poppy.. slappy.. sound.."

[Chameleon]

the last video about making basslines is alright

You might like the line he plays, but the video is horrible as an educational tool. For a start, he doesn't mention anything about the importance of playing root notes to accent chords, doesn't mention passing notes, and he's talking about very simply chords as well.

He also doesn't say how he constructs the line rhythmically, or how he thinks about phrasing..he just says that he knows what notes he's "allowed" to use, then plays that.

[sinister]

He's explains the entire of how to write a bass line in 1:16! hot damn!
The only problem he leaves out all the information.

Some of the other videos could be useful to begginers though, but thats the only one I watched.

[Sade]

I think I should make an instructional video on how NOT to use theory to create music.

[Hardinge]

You might like the line he plays, but the video is horrible as an educational tool. For a start, he doesn't mention anything about the importance of playing root notes to accent chords, doesn't mention passing notes, and he's talking about very simply chords as well.

He also doesn't say how he constructs the line rhythmically, or how he thinks about phrasing..he just says that he knows what notes he's "allowed" to use, then plays that.

true

[lateralus423]

Sade FTW

[Visti]

I think I should make an instructional video on how NOT to use theory to create music.


Like absent of any theory at all? Do you have a specific method when you sit down and write stuff?

[Left Shoe]

and ifyou mute the 12th it also tells you where you are


this guy doesnt really help much

[Thonk]

Yeah, those videos are pretty bad.

[Hardinge]

yeah he is too vauge

[Akira]

Holy ****. You know you suck when you move up the neck an octave to play a triad that you could have played in first position by playing G on the open G string instead of the 5th fret of the D string. That is messed up logic.

[T2k5]

His slapping is so bad it makes me cry. :upset:

[Thonk]

Holy ****. You know you suck when you move up the neck an octave to play a triad that you could have played in first position by playing G on the open G string instead of the 5th fret of the D string. That is messed up logic.
:lol: I thought the same thing.

"You can't play these two notes together because they are on the same string.."

[trumpeter]

meh...don't rag on the guy...hes just trying to be helpful...but he isn't/

[doodooking]

Uh, on the c minor chord vid, he says he cant play the chord on the A string 3rd fret, D string 1st fret and D string 5th fret, so he needs to move it an octave up...

His bass looks nice though

[_GanondorF_]

Uh, on the c minor chord vid, he says he cant play the chord on the A string 3rd fret, D string 1st fret and D string 5th fret, so he needs to move it an octave up...

His bass looks nice though

OMG... im gonna cry this guy is quality!

[Hardinge]

His bass looks nice though

i thought that

does anyone know what bass it is

[Sade]

Like absent of any theory at all? Do you have a specific method when you sit down and write stuff?

Usually I'll think to myself "Hrmm, what sort of melody do I want? Do I want a busy, complicated melody across several strings, or a simple chordial one? Then I decide on a mood by implementing a bassline.

The key to the mood of a piece is ALL in the bassline. I rarely, if EVER, think of "which notes" to play. Most of the time I don't even use any scales at all.

[Thonk]

i thought that

does anyone know what bass it is
The headstock looks like Fender.

[LewsTherin]

I think its a fender dimension
http://www.fender.com/products/prod_images/basses/0135800347_md.jpg

[Thonk]

Hm..his EQ has 1 less knob and it's a natural finish. I don't think that's it.

[Hardinge]

and the bridge pick up looks like a soapbar

[irishslappop]

he has probably the worst slapping technique i have ever seen.

slap it like your mad at it?? WTF is that?

[Left Shoe]

he honestly cant think hes good enough to name his site expert village

[LewsTherin]

Hm..his EQ has 1 less knob and it's a natural finish. I don't think that's it.


Eh, I tried.

[Panda Licker]

I think it comes down

to if you think you can do it better

Do it

and if not, leave the people who are trying alone

[Chameleon]

I think it comes down

to if you think you can do it better

Do it

and if not, leave the people who are trying alone

I think it comes down to you shutting your panda licking mouth.


Too hostile? Ok. I acknowledge your opinion sir, however I shall have to respectfully disagree with it since it makes no sense (oops....I forgot, 'IMO').

[BassVirtuoso]

I don't think his voice could sound any gayer.

I'm going to sign up for Expert Village and make videos too.

[chipmunk2510]

Haha "You can explore more to what the dots mean..."
That cracks me up.

[T2k5]

Haha "You can explore more to what the dots mean..."
That cracks me up.
I don't have any inlays so I can't explore! NOOO! :smash:

[TheBassStylee]

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> mike

[Sade]

"Expert Village" sounds like the spin-off of a softcore adult movie on Cinemax.

[BassVirtuoso]

The site says he's been playing for 10 years. The first 9 must have been spent finding a cute strap to match his eyes.

[TheBassStylee]

NOOOOOO!!
theres no video on how to plug a cable into my bass!!
*cries*
youve let me down dalton! ill get you for this!

[Bass_swede]

Have you ever wanted to pump out a bass line like you hear in many songs? If so, the bass guitar may be the right instrument for you! The bass guitar is one of the easiest musical instruments to learn to play. Unlike the guitar the basic bass guitar has only four strings.

With this video series you will be able to learn about the bass guitar and everything you need to know to start playing. Begin by learning the parts of the guitar. Our expert will break down the parts of the bass guitar so you understand what each part does. Also learn how to tune your bass guitar with an electronic tuner and tune by ear. Our expert then teaches different lessons on how to play the instrument. Learn chords, scales and techniques. You can even learn to write your own basslines. With some practice and guidance you can be jamming in no time!


^^^^

[Akira]

That makes me want to cry. ^

[Bass_swede]

http://www.fatbackcircus.com/

his band's music is actually quite cool, it doesn't make him a better teacher though..

[LewsTherin]

"Expert Village" sounds like the spin-off of a softcore adult movie on Cinemax.


/thinks he's seen that one



Bass_swede, yeah, that wasnt bad. His lessons still suck though.

[BassVirtuoso]

Is he retarded!? DID YOU SEE HOW HE TELLS THEM TO STRETCH THE STRINGS? Oh my god I can't believe he's actually telling people to pick the bass up by a string and shake it around wildly. I'm emailing this site.

[LewsTherin]

Is he retarded!? DID YOU SEE HOW HE TELLS THEM TO STRETCH THE STRINGS? Oh my god I can't believe he's actually telling people to pick the bass up by a string and shake it around wildly. I'm emailing this site.


I hadnt watched that one before. Thats horrible!

[irishslappop]

ive concluded that hes is out to stop bassisits from ever becoming good.

[faelun]

i kinda liked his tone but beyond that....no

[darrell]

Is he retarded!? DID YOU SEE HOW HE TELLS THEM TO STRETCH THE STRINGS? Oh my god I can't believe he's actually telling people to pick the bass up by a string and shake it around wildly. I'm emailing this site.

Haha... what an ***.

[basgitarist]

hahaha its amazing what he does to his bass :D:D:D

[Left Shoe]

on the string stretching one it really sounds like hes masturbating
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5156461864044323814&q=bass+expert+village for fast reference

[trumpeter]

Does anyone actually strech their strings like that....


I fret 24 and pull up with my other hand and slide all the way back to the headstock.

[Left Shoe]

i just play, i dont stretch them ever

[trumpeter]

Well...I've only changed my strings once so thats what I did.


My guitarist friend says stretching helps a lot


I doubt this unless you put them on right before a gig.

[black-knight]

lol he called the machine heads.....tuning forks hehe

[Esp Griffyn]

His tone is terrible, and the slapping video is just bad.

[bottlerocket]

What kind of bass is that? It's some sort of Fender...

He's a decent player from the sounds of things but a bad teacher. Maybe he was just nervous? Regardless, I don't think he's fit to be a teacher. :amaze:

He called tuning pegs tuning forks. :lol:

Stretching the strings? What the hell is that? That could snap a tuning peg or rip the string right out of the bridge saddle...he picked up the bass by the string and began treating it like a yo-yo. That is not good nor should that ever be done. :rolleyes:

-Gav

[LewsTherin]

What kind of bass is that? It's some sort of Fender...

He's a decent player from the sounds of things but a bad teacher. Maybe he was just nervous? Regardless, I don't think he's fit to be a teacher. :amaze:

He called tuning pegs tuning forks. :lol:

Stretching the strings? What the hell is that? That could snap a tuning peg or rip the string right out of the bridge saddle...he picked up the bass by the string and began treating it like a yo-yo. That is not good nor should that ever be done. :rolleyes:

-Gav


Or snap the nut. Thats what Id be most afraid of.

[bottlerocket]

^ Regardless, it's not a bright thing to do...at all...and it's only begging for your bass to break somehow. :lol:

Neck warp, anyone?

-Gav

[Rasta Rocker]

Originally Posted by ExpertVillage.com
Have you ever wanted to pump out a bass line like you hear in many songs? If so, the bass guitar may be the right instrument for you! The bass guitar is one of the easiest musical instruments to learn to play. Unlike the guitar the basic bass guitar has only four strings.

With this video series you will be able to learn about the bass guitar and everything you need to know to start playing. Begin by learning the parts of the guitar. Our expert will break down the parts of the bass guitar so you understand what each part does. Also learn how to tune your bass guitar with an electronic tuner and tune by ear. Our expert then teaches different lessons on how to play the instrument. Learn chords, scales and techniques. You can even learn to write your own basslines. With some practice and guidance you can be jamming in no time!

When did Mark Hoppus set this up?

[trumpeter]

probably yes.

[bottlerocket]

When did Mark Hoppus set this up?

http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/history/hist225g/images/size_d/LCL15.gif

Boo! Bad joke!

-Gav

[Rasta Rocker]

har har har

[trumpeter]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/image2/yugo_police_beating300.jpg

Yeah


Bad Joke.

[gronk]

I'm pretty sure it IS a Dimension. One of the tone control knobs is missing. Or it could be a Zone.

For ages people have been telling me I should be a bass teacher. I never thought I am qualified enough to do it. But those video's give me hope. If HE can teach someone how to play bass, then I should be giving Victor Wooten some pointers :lol:

[LewsTherin]

I'm pretty sure it IS a Dimension. One of the tone control knobs is missing. Or it could be a Zone.

For ages people have been telling me I should be a bass teacher. I never thought I am qualified enough to do it. But those video's give me hope. If HE can teach someone how to play bass, then I should be giving Victor Wooten some pointers :lol:

Zone's have a different headstock.


It looks like a Dimension to me too. Different model year, diff specs, maybe?

[Left Shoe]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/russian/image2/yugo_police_beating300.jpg

Yeah


Bad Joke.
...


thats a bad joke


...


http://www.couronne.net/images/june27/rio25.jpg

[zink182]

Zone's have a different headstock.


It looks like a Dimension to me too. Different model year, diff specs, maybe?


it's special edition precision bass.. :)


this guy should burn his bass and stop playing
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2995004669724805080&q=bass

[trumpeter]

:chug:

that thing is horrible...make it go away

[BassVirtuoso]

Bad Joke

http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/curr.jpg

[Left Shoe]

i dont get it

http://www.shout.net/~bigred/Rasputin.gif

[trumpeter]

HAHAHA


Rasputin.

[bottlerocket]

Left Shoe: :lol:!!! +1 GP

BV: :lol:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! +3 GPs for that one!\

-Gav

[trumpeter]

http://www.prairiefuture.com/gallery/photos/Gavin.JPG


Google image serach for Gavin

"Gavin at two years old"

[bottlerocket]

OK, guys...chill...back on topic. :p

-Gav

[trumpeter]

so yeah


bad bass lessons suck.

[will66]

he keeps rubbing his nose like he just finished a line before he did his lesson.

[trumpeter]

maybe thats why he sucks?

[muthafunkabass]

this guy should burn his bass and stop playing
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2995004669724805080&q=bass
why?

[bottlerocket]

^ Yeah, I agree...he's probably just learning.

Jeez, since when did it become "cool" to pick on new bass players? It never used to be like this...again, the forums have changed way too much. :(

*sigh*

*thinks back to 2003/2004 days*

-Gav

[will66]

heh sounds like my grandparents, "ahh the good ol' days" :p

[Panda Licker]

I think it comes down to you shutting your panda licking mouth.


Too hostile? Ok. I acknowledge your opinion sir, however I shall have to respectfully disagree with it since it makes no sense (oops....I forgot, 'IMO').
It means that he's atleast trying to get what he knows out there to help other bass players


You on the other hand spend your day... arguing on a messageboard. If you can do it so much better than him, then close close yer ****in browser and go make a video

[Left Shoe]

i didnt see anyhting wrong with that video, he seemed right on with the music. i think as a forum we have gotten alot more hostile. i mean there are occasionally some videos that warrant having a good laugh at, but not with the frequency weve been doing it at. on top of that, if you are going to try and be witty and make fun of a video. please actually be witty.

[mastrrbasser]

^ Yeah, I agree...he's probably just learning.

Jeez, since when did it become "cool" to pick on new bass players? It never used to be like this...again, the forums have changed way too much. :(

*sigh*

*thinks back to 2003/2004 days*

-Gav


isn't that zink in the video? isn't that zink saying that the dude in the video should burn his bass? who is the person on the forums with a black jazz bass with seymourduncans and a badass II bridge? Zink 182 maybe? I could be wrong, but it seems like he was making fun of himself, not someone else.

[LewsTherin]

i didnt see anyhting wrong with that video, he seemed right on with the music. i think as a forum we have gotten alot more hostile. i mean there are occasionally some videos that warrant having a good laugh at, but not with the frequency weve been doing it at. on top of that, if you are going to try and be witty and make fun of a video. please actually be witty.


123.

Im no big fan of (i think it was) Tool, so I dont really know how the song goes, but from hearing it on the radio, I didnt notice anything wrong.

[zink182]

isn't that zink in the video? isn't that zink saying that the dude in the video should burn his bass? who is the person on the forums with a black jazz bass with seymourduncans and a badass II bridge? Zink 182 maybe? I could be wrong, but it seems like he was making fun of himself, not someone else.

hahaha.. just seeing if anyone reconized me :)

[mastrrbasser]

hahaha.. just seeing if anyone reconized me :)



guess they didn't :lol:

[bottlerocket]

i didnt see anyhting wrong with that video, he seemed right on with the music. i think as a forum we have gotten alot more hostile. i mean there are occasionally some videos that warrant having a good laugh at, but not with the frequency weve been doing it at. on top of that, if you are going to try and be witty and make fun of a video. please actually be witty.

http://www.lakehousecreations.com/images/ThankYou/Thank%20You%202003%20(12).jpg

I agree the guy's not the best at bass but that doesn't mean we can say stuff liek "omfg wut an idiot lol." He's learning.

Also, yeah...PLEASE be witty...there's no inbetween. :p

-Gav

[Left Shoe]

mastrrbasser casual now!

...

[mastrrbasser]

mastrrbasser casual now!

...
i'm there man! *flys to the casual*

[zink182]

guess they didn't :lol:

guess not :upset:

[Crudd-Bucket™]

It's funny how bad his slapping technique is

[BassVirtuoso]

http://www.lakehousecreations.com/images/ThankYou/Thank%20You%202003%20(12).jpg

I agree the guy's not the best at bass but that doesn't mean we can say stuff liek "omfg wut an idiot lol." He's learning.

Also, yeah...PLEASE be witty...there's no inbetween. :p

-Gav

I think you missed it.

[basgitarist]

how could you agree on that, zink played the little riff perfectly so what's tha FUZZ?

[MyFriendOfMisery]

it's special edition precision bass.. :)


this guy should burn his bass and stop playing
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2995004669724805080&q=bass
Doesnt the main riff go from the d and g strings to the a and d strings in the chours? If so i think thats the only major problem with it. Other than that, if Im right, you did a pretty good job.

edit: my bad i didnt notice you did change strings, Im so sorry.

[Spencer]

Hm..his EQ has 1 less knob and it's a natural finish. I don't think that's it.

during the learning the parts of your bass video you can see it does have that eq knob but its just the pot the knob is msising.

[fleakeepr666]

Um.

No.

That hurt a little to watch those.

[FunkMetalBass]

Man, the last video upsets me. He should be using the DORIAN mode, not the AOLIAN for the F#minor. Either that, or the Emaj should be the Mixolydian while the F# stays as the Aolian.

[FunkMetalBass]

heh sounds like my grandparents, "ahh the good ol' days" :p



I don't know if you know this, but that was a Wednesday.

Okay, I am officially not going to quote him anymore.

[Jamie]

Zink: I recognised you straight away :p


Those videos are just horrible... I'm going to look into e-mailing them about that string stretching video.

[Led_Zeppelin678]

ROTFL

That slap vid is horrible. His technique just sucks, he has no descriptive faculty whatsoever...when he started playing Higher Ground I just started laughing.

Wow.

[FunkMetalBass]

So yeah, to two-hand tap, you...like that and...sorta like this crazy doohickey...then like that. You play like this by using...errs...and....uhhs.

There. Now you're a professional.

[museic]

he said slapping was the best technique...since when was there a best technique?

ahhh well

[Pr0bAss]

do you know tony levin??
what do u think of him?

[basgitarist]

he should give up funk fingers all together

[Chris K]

do you know tony levin??
what do u think of him?

Wow, that came from the left field.

He's not really that great.

[Jamie]

hahaha!! Funniest video is the Getting Started video. How he nearly forgets about having a lead :p and then out of nowhere right at the end, "you'll also... err, need.... errr.... curiosity."

:lol:

[ludwig109]

i know the Techniques bad and hes got stuff wrong but is the slap riff he does at the end of ''Bass Guitar Basics - Learn Hammer-on and Pull-off Techniques''
taken from a song cause i really liked that.

[Chameleon]

It means that he's atleast trying to get what he knows out there to help other bass players


You on the other hand spend your day... arguing on a messageboard. If you can do it so much better than him, then close close yer ****in browser and go make a video


Haha, you're funny.

You're also an idiot.

I can do it so much better than him. To be honest, the fact that I give people advice (usually correct, if I do say so myself?) around here on chords, theory etc shows that I know what i'm talking about more than that guy.

Does that mean I owe it to the bass community to go out, buy a camcorder and start making videos? No.

If he was giving harmless advice to his mates, that would be fair enough but he's not. He's telling ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO LISTEN, to pick their bass up by the strings, and bounce it up and down. With regards to his slapping/picking etc, that's just mediocre, i'm not bashing him for that, but he's not fit to be a teacher.

I don't care if you agree with that or not, it's true. Hell, even Gav said so and you know how much he loves noobs.

[Panda Licker]

Haha, you're funny.

You're also an idiot.

I can do it so much better than him. To be honest, the fact that I give people advice (usually correct, if I do say so myself?) around here on chords, theory etc shows that I know what i'm talking about more than that guy.

Does that mean I owe it to the bass community to go out, buy a camcorder and start making videos? No.



Be careful bud


if your ego swells up anymore it's going to cut off the oxygen flow

[Chameleon]

Be careful bud


if your ego swells up anymore it's going to cut off the oxygen flow

Dude, there's a difference between me having a big ego and thinking i'm a good musician, than me saying that I know some stuff about theory and bass playing.


You're a dick. Hahahahaha.

[kilian]

Sorry.. I just have to say this.

But that guy is just gay :lol:

[PaulR]

It means that he's atleast trying to get what he knows out there to help other bass players


You on the other hand spend your day... arguing on a messageboard. If you can do it so much better than him, then close close yer ****in browser and go make a video
Surely he's helping people by warning them about these lessons?

[Hardinge]

i think this guy has taken enough **** from us now

[Esp Griffyn]

Be careful bud


if your ego swells up anymore it's going to cut off the oxygen flow

Seriously, some of the things shown in those videos are actually counter productive, ie his bad slapping technique and string stretching technique.

And btw, if we criticise his stuff, it doesnt automatically mean we have to make our on videos just so everyone knows we arent just mouthing off.