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Noyana
02-25-2006, 05:51 PM
excellent and emotionally draining movie.
If you haven't seen it, you should. and if you've already seen it - what did you think about it?
i think it's a piece of art that was very very well done.
i can't get through the movie without crying profusely. and it's the one movie where i can say that i don't really know why. there are so many things going on and the movie is so intense that it brings out emotions you didn't know you had and feelings you didn't realize were there.
PinkFloydFan082692
02-25-2006, 05:52 PM
I still want to see it
Ephemeral
02-25-2006, 05:58 PM
I really like the album, and the movie, but I get an uneasy feeling when watching the movie.
EightMilesHigh
02-25-2006, 05:58 PM
It's really good. I can't extend too much on that, just that it's really really good.
Like you said, it is brutally emotional.
Baliente
02-25-2006, 06:02 PM
I myself am a huge PF fan, but I don't get what makes it so emotional. Yeah it's an awesome movie, but parts of it didn't make sense and it was just wierd.
Noyana
02-25-2006, 06:05 PM
I still want to see it
Not only does it have a lot of pink floyd music in it, but it stands on its own as a movie - you don't have to be a fan to see it.
As Wiki puts it:
The film features music from the original Pink Floyd album, much of which was re-recorded by Roger Waters with different musicians and additional orchestration, some with minor lyrical and musical changes. The film is highly metaphorical and is rich in symbolic imagery and sound. It features virtually no dialogue and a non-linear storyline which is progressed entirely through Pink Floyd's lyrical music. Some consider it to be a long music video for the entire album.
The film is scattered throughout with fifteen minutes of elaborate animation sequences by the political cartoonist and illustrator Gerald Scarfe, who played a central role in developing the overall aesthetic of the production. The animation sequences include a bold and nightmarish vision of war, specifically of the German bombing campaign over England during World War II, set to the song "Goodbye Blue Sky".
Pink Floyd The Wall depicts the construction and ultimate demolition of a metaphorical wall. Though the film is highly interpretable, the wall itself clearly reflects a sense of isolation and alienation. Pink, the tragic hero of the film, is depicted at various stages of physical and mental development.
[spoilers] Summary of the Beginning/Middle of the Movie
We first meet Pink as a young British boy growing up in the early 1950's. Young Pink is heavily affected by the death of his father in World War II and as a result develops a close relationship with his smothering, overprotective mother. As the years go on, he becomes a successful rock star in the United States, but remains in a state of mental disarray and disillusionment. Pink married in the late '60s, but over the years, he and his wife grow further and further apart, with Pink concentrating on his music and his wife becoming involved with an anti-nuclear arms group. She eventually has an affair with the leader of the group while Pink is on tour. After the affair, Pink begins his complete and utter mental downfall. He shaves off all his body hair, and sits inside the boundaries of the wall. Drugs cause Pink to hallucinate at his shows; he believes that he has become the leader of a violent, racist, hate group, bearing strong resemblances to modern neo-nazi gangs. His concerts have become rallies, with Pink hysterically pointing out minorities in the audience and encouraging his faithful to "put 'em up against The Wall."
Noyana
02-25-2006, 06:07 PM
I myself am a huge PF fan, but I don't get what makes it so emotional. Yeah it's an awesome movie, but parts of it didn't make sense and it was just wierd.
I think it's tough because of the lack of dialogue.
Part of it could be due to the fact that there were several people producing it which leads to a mesh of creative ideas.
I think it's emotional, for me at least, because it reminds me of things and makes me think - about war, personal degredation, relationships, feeling alone, and the chaos that often times is life.
PinkFloydFan082692
02-25-2006, 06:18 PM
Not only does it have a lot of pink floyd music in it, but it stands on its own as a movie - you don't have to be a fan to see it.
As Wiki puts it:
The film features music from the original Pink Floyd album, much of which was re-recorded by Roger Waters with different musicians and additional orchestration, some with minor lyrical and musical changes. The film is highly metaphorical and is rich in symbolic imagery and sound. It features virtually no dialogue and a non-linear storyline which is progressed entirely through Pink Floyd's lyrical music. Some consider it to be a long music video for the entire album.
The film is scattered throughout with fifteen minutes of elaborate animation sequences by the political cartoonist and illustrator Gerald Scarfe, who played a central role in developing the overall aesthetic of the production. The animation sequences include a bold and nightmarish vision of war, specifically of the German bombing campaign over England during World War II, set to the song "Goodbye Blue Sky".
Pink Floyd The Wall depicts the construction and ultimate demolition of a metaphorical wall. Though the film is highly interpretable, the wall itself clearly reflects a sense of isolation and alienation. Pink, the tragic hero of the film, is depicted at various stages of physical and mental development.
[spoilers] Summary of the Beginning/Middle of the Movie
We first meet Pink as a young British boy growing up in the early 1950's. Young Pink is heavily affected by the death of his father in World War II and as a result develops a close relationship with his smothering, overprotective mother. As the years go on, he becomes a successful rock star in the United States, but remains in a state of mental disarray and disillusionment. Pink married in the late '60s, but over the years, he and his wife grow further and further apart, with Pink concentrating on his music and his wife becoming involved with an anti-nuclear arms group. She eventually has an affair with the leader of the group while Pink is on tour. After the affair, Pink begins his complete and utter mental downfall. He shaves off all his body hair, and sits inside the boundaries of the wall. Drugs cause Pink to hallucinate at his shows; he believes that he has become the leader of a violent, racist, hate group, bearing strong resemblances to modern neo-nazi gangs. His concerts have become rallies, with Pink hysterically pointing out minorities in the audience and encouraging his faithful to "put 'em up against The Wall."
well if it wasn't pink floyd, it wouldn't be the wall would it
Baliente
02-25-2006, 06:23 PM
I think it's tough because of the lack of dialogue.
Part of it could be due to the fact that there were several people producing it which leads to a mesh of creative ideas.
Yeah, but it was all Waters' idea. He sort of became a jerk after The Wall. Pretty much kicked everyone out of the band. While David was still in it, he would never listen to David's ideas and just do what he wanted to.
nobodyblossomsforever
02-25-2006, 06:32 PM
It was a great movie and album. This is the 40th time I've responded to a thread mentioning The Wall. O_O
Tillius
02-25-2006, 07:06 PM
I wanna see it.
nowitzki
02-25-2006, 07:48 PM
I love watching it just before I go to sleep, its awesome.
thunderzstruck
02-25-2006, 08:03 PM
i love it how the band hated the movie
BigTrav415
02-25-2006, 08:06 PM
I like the album more, even though the movie is extremely good. A cult classic in every sense of the word. I think the best way to describe how I feel about it is "too freaking dark". There is just too much that makes you feel down and sad or just emotionless. The animations make me feel wierd, and I don't know, parts of the movie just don't sit well with me. It's also actually got a bit of 80s cheeziness that takes away from it for me, like the swimming pool scene, with the camera lens just changing to red and it just spinning back and forth, it was just too corny. And I don't like depressing stuff. I wish that they could have put When The Tigers Broke Free and the longer version of Empty Spaces on the album.
standard
02-26-2006, 12:12 AM
I myself am a huge PF fan, but I don't get what makes it so emotional. Yeah it's an awesome movie, but parts of it didn't make sense and it was just wierd.
It's like a Floyd album.. Very small details. You need them all to figure something out.
Kurtz
02-26-2006, 12:16 AM
So pessimistic and downbeat, but it's good.
To me it takes a second view to really "get it". When I saw it the first time I had absolutely no idea what the hell I was watching.
Pop music sucks
02-26-2006, 02:19 AM
A great movie. I found the sequence where the Wall was being physically created to be very dramatic.
I like the album more, like BigTrav said, but the inclusion of When The Tiger's Broke Free on the movie is more fitting, I feel. Some parts of the movie seemed to be out of sequence, less logical than the album, if you will.
Great animations though, especially Goodbye Blue Sky and One Of My Turns.
And yes, parts of the movie really wrench my stomach.
JamminOnMy4String
02-28-2006, 11:05 AM
try shrooming and watching it.. haha, now that's a trip
Ghoul Hunter
02-28-2006, 11:08 AM
try shrooming and watching it.. haha, now that's a trip
That defeats the point that the movie was made on, still fun though.
hits of sunshine
02-28-2006, 11:12 AM
It's a great movie. I don't really understand how people don't "get it." I REALLY don't understand how people don't get Yellow Submarine, but that's another story. We'll save that for another day.
Hands down one of the best movies to watch when you're baked. Or if you're not.
maxwell_1888
02-28-2006, 06:25 PM
Excellent movie. Animations are incredible. Quite simple in this day and age but still extremely effective.
guitarded_chuck
02-28-2006, 09:13 PM
I'm a big Pink Floyd fan, but The Wall isn't my favorite album by far, and the movie is okay. It's interesting, for sure.
PinkFloydFan082692
02-28-2006, 10:34 PM
I don't really know what my favorite PF album is, but I really like the Wall and how it has a definite story
Leukeh
03-01-2006, 06:34 AM
We watched it in english so we could see how music effected the mood of the scene.
I was skeptical at first, having been told it was a movie with virtually no script, but it ended up being one of the most interesting movies I've ever seen. I'm not that big a Floyd fan, but it was an amazing movie. Some parts disturbing, but obviously neccessary.
It's got a huge script, just no words.
BigTrav415
03-01-2006, 08:17 PM
Apparently Bob Geldof (Pink) completely improvised the entire movie. The director/Waters just told him the story and gave him basic instructions. Pretty cool. I think my favorite scene is the One Of My Turns apartment-wrecking scene. I see myself making a YTMND someday with that :lol:
Pop music sucks
03-02-2006, 02:35 AM
It's got a huge script, just no words.Yeah, I think he meant dialogue.
strangerdanger
03-02-2006, 07:19 AM
Oh dear.
The Wall?
Grow up :)
Apparently Bob Geldof (Pink) completely improvised the entire movie. The director/Waters just told him the story and gave him basic instructions. Pretty cool. I think my favorite scene is the One Of My Turns apartment-wrecking scene. I see myself making a YTMND someday with that :lol:
God I hate what he did when he sang In The Flesh? and In The Flesh.
Oh dear.
The Wall?
Grow up :)
How so, Murray?
How so?
HazMan
03-03-2006, 05:28 AM
I remember the film, i bought it in a Pink Floyd/Must buy music related DVDs phase.
It reminded me of one of my favourite movies, Koyaaniqatsi actually. The way the music and surreal imagery interwined is something i enjoy a lot. That said its got a lot of flaws, but so does most things i like.
strangerdanger
03-03-2006, 08:11 AM
How so, Murray?
How so?
It's a music video. A very long and entertaining movie but for all the imagery and attempt at 'off-the-wall' video footage, it's just a music clip.
That the threadstarter cries in this movie tells me more about his body's inability to cope with teenage hormones than it does about the the emotional pull of the wall.
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