Metallica Inc.

[hethamulburton]

Fade to Black, talking about suicide, very poetic and meaningful. Plus easy to find a poem about someone about to commit suicide.

That's weird, cause it was written after James's gear was stolen. I can't imagine he'd kill himself over that.

Why does everyone call it "The One" it's just "One." No article. Just One. Feel the one-ness.
Originally Posted by roulette dares 3
i need to write an essay on a song of my choice and i decided to write one on a metallica song. What metallica song has the most poetic and meaningful lyrics that i can easily find a matching poem to? Replies apprecciated.

Which by the way is a great meaningful song to write your essay on. About war and coping with the results and ****. So is Ride The Lightening about capital punishment. And Master of Puppets about slavery. Depending on what class it's for, and how much the teach likes Ernest Hemmingway, do For Whom the Bell Tolls, as it ws written about the book. Or Disposable Hereos also about war. Sanitarium, about asylums and ****. Leper Messiah about drug addictions. Blackened and ...And Justice For All about gov. corruption, well most of that album is. You have a ton of material and I listed some songs that came to mind and about what they were written, so you can pick a song that fits a topic you wanna cover. Or do a little ALice In Chains, there's bound to be a poem someone wrote about shooting up, just as they sang about. And if you can do another song as a poem, I'd do Civil War(Guns N Roses) and Rooster(Alice In Chains) or One, these are songs about war. Leper Messiah and Mr. Brownstone(Guns). Your possibilities are boundless, happy hunting.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Right on man i'll help you out. harvester of sorrow

the thing that should not be

seek and destroy

for whom the bells toll here and you will love them all man metallica rocks man!

You don't have to read and quote from the first page, I don't think anyone from the first page posts in here anymore.

welcome to the forums :)

[Pantallica89]

[QUOTE=iliketoplaydrums10111]amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more than that i just can't any ive heard

[Pantallica89]

i'll help you out man eye of the beholder
harvester of sorrow

the thing that should not be

for whom the bells toll

seek and destroy listen to them and you will love man!

[Pantallica89]

thanks man this is my first time on here help me out man!

[FlyingPaul_83]

Don't triple post like that man, it makes people mad. Just edit your posts.

[ghost_81]

i have nothing to say...simply metallica is awesome :thumb:

[Pantallica89]

flyinng paul our whatever help me out :confused: :confused: :confused:

[hethamulburton]

copy ur messages then hit the edit button in ur first post... paste and repeat til u have one main post

[Bazarov]

hethamulburton, if you mean the song Master of Puppets is about slavery, I'd have to say, I dissagree, that song is about drugs.

[ghost_81]

hethamulburton, if you mean the song Master of Puppets is about slavery, I'd have to say, I dissagree, that song is about drugs.
yea i have to agree

[Bazarov]

But, in a way it is a song about slavery. Because it's a person who is a slave to his drug addiction, when his addiction orders him to do the drugs he does it. I heard that this song was aimed at Mustaine, can anyone confirm this?

[Pantallica89]

ok i got this down now so what does everybody think of and justice for all

it is my over all favorite :thumb:

[Huber]

AJFA is an awesome album. Many of the songs on it are classics.

[Bazarov]

ok i got this down now so what does everybody think of and justice for all

it is my over all favorite :thumb:

Yup, my favorite too, I just wish the bass was audible. :-/

[Pantallica89]

AJFA is an awesome album. Many of the songs on it are classics.


yes i definately agree eye of the beholder is my favorite but the bad thing about ajfa is they dont have enough base :)

[heavy metal kid]

AJFA is an awesome album. Many of the songs on it are classics.

the first four albums of metallica are classics.
And about Eye of the Beholder, i think it is one of the finnest lyrical song in the metallica history.

[Rats]

metallica sucks

[Bazarov]

metallica sucks

Wow, how about you keep the idiot bashing that has no proof of how they "suck" out of this thread?

[roulette dares 3]

thanks for all the suggestions but i think i should write my essay on fade to black bcause i really like that song. it's for my yr 11 english calss by the way and so far i know that the song is about suicide, but does anyone know the reason for the suicide in the song?

[SrV_FeN63'StRaT]

If anyone has any RARE Metallica stuff lemme know...

[GaggingOrder]

thanks for all the suggestions but i think i should write my essay on fade to black bcause i really like that song. it's for my yr 11 english calss by the way and so far i know that the song is about suicide, but does anyone know the reason for the suicide in the song?Jaymz was just pissed off, and the topper was that someone stole some really expensive Marshall amps he had.

[PepsiMetal]

metallica sucks

Metallica isn't for 8 year olds. :thumb:

[Six Foot Revolver]

metallica sucks
:lol: That actually made me lol :upset:

[GaggingOrder]

Presumably a song about suicide, it was written by Metallica after their equipment was stolen in early '84 and they had to start all over again. More specifically, James Hetfield wrote the lyrics in response to one of his amps being stolen. Not only was this amp his favorite, but it was also the first amp he ever owned so it had a lot of sentimental value to him. The song is about losing everything and wondering if it is worth going on. (thanks, Brad - La Crosse, WI)
This was written by group members James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich, Kirk Hammett, and Cliff Burton.
Kirk Hammett improvised while playing the final solo. He just thought about very depressing things while playing. (thanks, Nick - Paramus, NJ, for above 2)
A very meaningful song to former Bassist Jason Newsted, it was the last song he performed on tour with his former band members before going it alone and eventually picking up with Ozzy Osbourne. (thanks, Dane - Lamar, CO)
All from SongFacts.

Metallica isn't for 8 year olds. I liked I Disappear when I was 8.

[roulette dares 3]

thanks for the help.im sure this question has been asked before but what metallica solo would appeal to me as a new metallica fan (i got into them after listening to fade to black rather than their new stuff which is imo disappointing) besides from "one" and "fade to black" since i have already learnt those.

[GaggingOrder]

Master Of Puppets is a renowned solo. Blackened and God That Failed are my favorties. Also, Dyer's Eve is blazing fast and pretty nice.

[Chu]

Gocaps.. Since you can at least play the solo from Seek & Destroy.. Could you tell me how you go with fingering on it?
I'm sure I could do it, but I always screw up jumping from string to string, I just need to find a better way for 'fretting'(?) it, lol I suffer stubby fingers ^_^;

[Six Foot Revolver]

Metallica isn't for 8 year olds. :thumb:
Well it is definately a metal band for younger audiences in many ways

[GaggingOrder]

Yeah, if a little one is gonna like a metal band, chances are it will be Metallica. They're the metal band that people that don't know **** about metal know about. They are to metal what Stephen King is to modern macabre literature, more or less.

Metallica is the band all twelve year old kids listen to.

[superdigg]

so what's everyone think of Kill 'Em All? weird, most fans seem to like AJFA or even Black Album more than Kill 'Em All, but i think KEA has the most attitude, and keeps hitting you hard throughout the whole album

[hethamulburton]

I love Kill 'Em All, I like it better than AJFA and Black. It is one of my favorites all- time. Musically, it's not as complex as RTL or MOP, as most songs use the chugging riff thing they are famous for. But song like Hit The Lights, Four Horsemen, Seek And Destroy, and Metal Militia are now classics. Others like Whiplash Anestasia No Remorse and Motorbreath contain great riffs, and Phantom Lord too. Overall, I think though it seems to all lead back to the chugging riffs, this is the album they explored the most with their influences. Motorbreath and Phantom Lord have a punk feel to them. And the clean break in Four Horsemen has a definite Skynyrd feel. I don't know why thhis album is so underrated. Many of today's metal stars cite this as one of the albums that got them into metal in the first place. Note: I said "one of" not "the album"- I don't want any crap for that.
I forgot to mention Jump In The Fire, it's a decent song, but not anything special or to drool over.
And whoever said Metallica isn't for 8 year olds, doesn't understand that after Hells Bells was over Master of Puppets came on, and we continued on the way home from the hospital, on August like 3 or 4, 1988, a few days after I was born, they were making sure I was good to go. After that came Judas with Breaking the Law, and Guns with Paradise City. I loved the radio stations of back then.

[metallicafreak_31]

Does any1 know any more info on the new 2006 album?

[hethamulburton]

It's new... and it'll be out in 2006, and hopefully Lars lets Kirk solo.

New material has been added to the Vault section of livemetallica.com!
^^ actual quote from site.

[brettberry]

All from SongFacts.

I liked I Disappear when I was 8.
So that would make you 13 now, you are still a kid

[metallicafreak_31]

dus any1 hav any info on the new 2006 album?

[hethamulburton]

hethamulburton, if you mean the song Master of Puppets is about slavery, I'd have to say, I dissagree, that song is about drugs.

Well a slave to drugs then.


Quote:
Originally Posted by metallicafreak_31
dus any1 hav any info on the new 2006 album?



You could search yourself, I already checked the official site, nothing there. Besides new songs on livemetallica.com.

[hethamulburton]

Here guys check this out- a 55 minute song about Napster
btw- not the actual song, just news on it.

http://bbspot.com/News/2000/6/download_this.html




New info on album:


NEW ALBUM PLANS
Robert Trujillo recently spoke to The Tennessean about the group's upcoming studio album, which the band hope to begin recording in February.
"We already have over 50 hours of song ideas recorded," he said. "There's some speed, some of it is kind of raw and funky, most of it has that heavy groove which I think is a stand-out ingredient for Metallica. . . . James is throwin' down some killer riffs . . . and whatever it is man, it's gonna be heavy. We're getting really excited about doing an album as this team."

Trujillo also commented on Metallica's decision to bring out a number of rarely performed classics for their "Madly in Anger With the World" tour, which is scheduled to hit Nashville Thursday (Nov. 11).

''We're pulling out songs that haven't been played in 20 years, some that haven't been played at all," Trujillo said, gushing about "getting the guys to play songs like 'Dyers Eve' or 'Disposable Heroes', kind of fueling that."

''We'll basically learn it on the spot and go out and actually play the darn thing. . . . You'll get this amazing rendition of a particular song that hadn't been played, or you'll get a borderline mess. But that's the fun and the spontaneity of what we're doing now — and the new magic of this band."

Today's Metallica redresses a lot of what people have thought about the band: The reckless party atmosphere that earned the band the nickname "Alcoholica" early on is a return-to-form you certainly won't see on this tour.

"Everybody's pretty healthy these days," Trujillo said with a laugh. "As you get older, you change your lifestyle a bit; we obviously can't be drinking all night and then get up there and try to throw down. . . . We have a chiropractor, believe it or not, who travels with us and whips us back into shape so we can get onstage and hold it down."
Source: Blabbermouth / tennessean.com

Got it from
http://www.encycmet.com/news/2004-11-17.shtml

[Six Foot Revolver]

Here guys check this out- a 55 minute song about Napster
btw- not the actual song, just news on it.

http://bbspot.com/News/2000/6/download_this.html
That is really old and really fake

[PepsiMetal]

Well it is definately a metal band for younger audiences in many ways

That wasn't the point.

[hethamulburton]

That wasn't the point.

Then what was your point, you made it clear that they weren't for younger audiences.

[PepsiMetal]

Then what was your point, you made it clear that they weren't for younger audiences.

The guy said Metallica sucks and I replied. If you still dont get it, forget about it.

[hethamulburton]

The new Metallica sucks, but with the new parental advisory stuff, wouldn't you say Metallica is more for older people than 8, like teens and young adults.
Not arguing, just saying.

[Happy]

The new Metallica sucks
I prefer the new Metallica over new music. (like Teh KIllers, Bloc Party ect)

[hethamulburton]

Well yea I see your point, but I don't listen to the radio much except when a local station plays a 1 hour segment dedicated to bands of the 70's and 80's, like Hair, Heavy Metal, and Classic Rock. They wanna extend it to 2 hours so I made up like 20 email addresses and sent them a go ahead on it thing. They play Kill Em All stuff, and I was amazed I never heard that stuff on the radio before.

[Happy]

I wish i knew a radio station like that, Once i get a digital radio i can listen to planet rock, that plays some good tunes.

[hethamulburton]

We have XM satelte too, they have a pretty good station called The Boneyard, they play a lot of great bands, you've never heard on commercial radio. I haven't looked yet for one that plays metal like Slayer and Metallica yet, and haven't heard it on Boneyard either... the search will continue.

[FlyingPaul_83]

A few pages back rusted pieces gave a link to a metallica radio station.

[hethamulburton]

Yea they said they had new material for it.

[brettberry]

alright check this **** out, I went to wal-mart today to see what metallica stuff they carried and in the Metallica rack they had 4 cd's that were covers for metallica and I think were badass
The Blackest Album
The Blackest Album II
The Blackest Album III
And some kind of Orchestaestic cover for Metallica

I thought that was cool as hell

[FlyingPaul_83]

Aren't the blackest album tribute albums techno covers?

[Mazeppa]

alright check this **** out, I went to wal-mart today to see what metallica stuff they carried and in the Metallica rack they had 4 cd's that were covers for metallica and I think were badass
The Blackest Album
The Blackest Album II
The Blackest Album III
And some kind of Orchestaestic cover for Metallica

I thought that was cool as hell
The one with the orchestra was probably S&M.

[Britton]

I'm not sure about techno but they got an awsome bluegrass and cello stuff

[brettberry]

I'm not sure about techno but they got an awsome bluegrass and cello stuff
yeah, i think i remeber a bluegrass band covering them too. How cool is that?

[Agitator01]

alright check this **** out, I went to wal-mart today to see what metallica stuff they carried and in the Metallica rack they had 4 cd's that were covers for metallica and I think were badass
The Blackest Album
The Blackest Album II
The Blackest Album III
And some kind of Orchestaestic cover for Metallica

I thought that was cool as hell

That is only a few of many, I have

The Blackest Album
The Blackest Album II
The Blackest Album III
The Blackest Album IIII
Metallica Punk Tribute
Metal Militia (Includes Motorhead doing Motorbreath!)
Metalli Meyhem
Metallica Ultimate Tribute
Apocalyptica (Four cello-ists)
Metallica and tributes for all (Includes Rob Trujillo before he joined!)

There is a few I know I havn't got...

Metallica Hip Hop tribute is one of them, I am sure there are more by now.

[Schecterguitarist]

I do believe that metallica won't call it quits after a 2006 album. I think that hammet, ulrich, and hetfield are going to want to continue working with robert and try to see where they are going to end up. Besides, why would they want to stop!? some of u have said that they will but havnt sed why they would stop playing.....if u say they are going to quit then please post why so we can get some ideas

[Joe]

I do believe that metallica won't call it quits after a 2006 album. I think that hammet, ulrich, and hetfield are going to want to continue working with robert and try to see where they are going to end up. Besides, why would they want to stop!? some of u have said that they will but havnt sed why they would stop playing.....if u say they are going to quit then please post why so we can get some ideas

I don't think they'll stop either. I see them being kind of like the rolling stones, they'll be rockin until they die or until James is a mute.

That is only a few of many, I have

The Blackest Album
The Blackest Album II
The Blackest Album III
The Blackest Album IIII
Metallica Punk Tribute
Metal Militia (Includes Motorhead doing Motorbreath!)
Metalli Meyhem
Metallica Ultimate Tribute
Apocalyptica (Four cello-ists)
Metallica and tributes for all (Includes Rob Trujillo before he joined!)

There is a few I know I havn't got...

Metallica Hip Hop tribute is one of them, I am sure there are more by now.

Hip Hop tribute? I would hardly call that a tribute... The four celloists actually sounds pretty good, considering I liked S&M. Also the Trujillo one is pretty cool, as is the Blackest Album

[brettberry]

What the ****ing Hell!!!! who did a god **** mother ****ing hip hop tribute to Metallica? Tell me so I can assassinate them!

[Metalhead1409]

What the ****ing Hell!!!! who did a god **** mother ****ing hip hop tribute to Metallica? Tell me so I can assassinate them!
Did you see the Snoop Dogg preformance of Sad But true at MTV Icons

[VoodooChild24]

Did you see the Snoop Dogg preformance of Sad But true at MTV Icons

It was horrendus!!! :angry:

[brettberry]

Did you see the Snoop Dogg preformance of Sad But true at MTV Icons
I would have shot my tv if i saw that.

[Metalhead1409]

I would have shot my tv if i saw that.
It sucked! He was of beat with the music, fogot the words, didn't do the entire song, and to top that off, he ended with saying "Metallica, Beotch!"

[brettberry]

It sucked! He was of beat with the music, fogot the words, didn't do the entire song, and to top that off, he ended with saying "Metallica, Beotch!"
wwhhhhoaaaaaaa! where is he at? i am packing up my ruger and my winchester right now!!!

[Metalhead1409]

It sucked! He was of beat with the music, fogot the words, didn't do the entire song, and to top that off, he ended with saying "Metallica, Beotch!"
I forgot to say he also had some of his Hommies "dancing" behind him wile he was preforming

[brettberry]

I forgot to say he also had some of his Hommies "dancing" behind him
Give me their names they are getting shot too.

[Huber]

That Sad But True cover was just so they could have a token rapper.

[Metalhead1409]

That Sad But True cover was just so they could have a token rapper.
Yea. They tried to get as diverse as possible. He still sucked

[brettberry]

Yea. They tried to get as diverse as possible. He still sucked
He still is getting shot. I am pissed you guys shouldnt have told me that I am going to go off killing rappers now and spend life in prison

[Metalhead1409]

He still is getting shot. I am pissed you guys shouldnt have told me that I am going to go off killing rappers now and spend life in prison
Mind if I join you in punishing them? Its a worthy cause.

[brettberry]

Mind if I join you in punishing them? Its a worthy cause.
yeah but we need to raisy charity first. (for ammo and what not)
lets call it, were killing snoop foundation

[Metalhead1409]

yeah but we need to raisy charity first. (for ammo and what not)
lets call it, were killing snoop foundation
sounds good

[Metalhead1409]

:upset: http://www.metallica.com/Media/Misc/misc.asp?misc_id=11
Listin to the clip of the song on that link. Metallica made a song with Ja Rule. they made the music and james sings on it. Big let down :upset:

[blue3]

What the hell.. I never knew they made a song with Ja Rule.

[brettberry]

:upset: http://www.metallica.com/Media/Misc/misc.asp?misc_id=11
Listin to the clip of the song on that link. Metallica made a song with Ja Rule. they made the music and james sings on it. Big let down :upset:
*unpacks shotgun and ruger
*gets a hold of every Metallica cd he owns to throw it away

The deed is done guys, I am through with Metallica. You will not see me post in this thread again.

[Metalhead1409]

*unpacks shotgun and ruger
*gets a hold of every Metallica cd he owns to throw it away

The deed is done guys, I am through with Metallica. You will not see me post in this thread again.
What about Snoop?

[Futuro]

*unpacks shotgun and ruger
*gets a hold of every Metallica cd he owns to throw it away

The deed is done guys, I am through with Metallica. You will not see me post in this thread again.
YA **** em all :evil:

[Huber]

Heh, random Faith...

That song with Ja Rule was no big deal. Cooperating with rappers is nothing to be ashamed of. That song was kinda catchy. They also seemed to be happy to be playing with Metallica, showing more maturity then you're all right now.

[FlyingPaul_83]

*unpacks shotgun and ruger
*gets a hold of every Metallica cd he owns to throw it away

The deed is done guys, I am through with Metallica. You will not see me post in this thread again.

Yay. :p

[Futuro]

Heh, random Faith sorry bout that, i never post in here but im a big mettalica fan, it kinda made me sad. :upset:

[Huber]

sorry bout that, i never post in here but im a big mettalica fan, it kinda made me sad. :upset:

Oh no, I meant random as in,

"Whoa, Faith is randomly in this thread all of a sudden."

On another note, this thread has been lacking regulars lately...

[Metalhead1409]

Oh no, I meant random as in,

"Whoa, Faith is randomly in this thread all of a sudden."

On another note, this thread has been lacking regulars lately...
Regulars?

[Schecterguitarist]

What the ****ing Hell!!!! who did a god **** mother ****ing hip hop tribute to Metallica? Tell me so I can assassinate them!

Ja Rule and DMX did uinfortuantly, it was on the some kind of monster bonus dvd (disc 2)

[Huber]

Regulars?

There used to be like 10 or 11 of the same people always posting in this thread. it was great, but now I think because of vacation and summer a lot of them aren't here...:(

Not to say any of the newer members here are bad posters. I don't mean it like that.

[Schecterguitarist]

What does everyone think about other covers ppl hav done from metallica like Primus' the Thing That Should Not Be or Sum 41's medly performance of them at the MTV icon awards. One that is sickening to think of is avril lavigne doing Fuel. that just didnt seem right

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

I remember that. Avril sucked, Sum 41 doesn't deserve. Sadly, the best performer was either Staind or Korn

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

Heh, random Faith...

That song with Ja Rule was no big deal. Cooperating with rappers is nothing to be ashamed of. That song was kinda catchy. They also seemed to be happy to be playing with Metallica, showing more maturity then you're all right now.

Yeah, they showed it in the "Some Kind of Monster" movie. Metallica recorded some tracks they put together in like five minutes, and a couple gay rappers walked in and talked to Bob Rock. Metallica probably didn't even talk to Ja Rule about it

[Ibanex0110]

I think you guys are getting way too mad about the icon and rapper stuff. It's just those guys showing that they enjoy Metallica's music, just cause they may have done bad or whatever, it doesn't matter.

[Metalhead1409]

I remember that. Avril sucked, Sum 41 doesn't deserve. Sadly, the best performer was either Staind or Korn
what do you mean sadly? Korn and Staind are good bands

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

In my opinion I guess, I don't like Staind, and I'm not into rap-metal

[Schecterguitarist]

what about Korn's performance of One. A masterpiece, no doubt, i liked it a lot wen they did it cuz they tuned their guitars down whole step which gave it that nu metal tone but i hated and still hate the noise that Korn's bassist makes wen hes slapping it, it didnt work in this performance

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

I hated that bass sound throughout the entire song

[FlyingPaul_83]

Yeah those weird click noises he does. It was an alright performance. I liked metallica's performance the best :D

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

Of COurse.... :p

[FlyingPaul_83]

I really like how they played Hit the lights. That was awesome.

[Huber]

I remember that. Avril sucked, Sum 41 doesn't deserve. Sadly, the best performer was either Staind or Korn

That is so utterly false. Sum 41 was easily the best performance of the night.

[KillemAllforOne83]

I liked limp bizkets minus Fred Durst :wave:

[Futuro]

avril lavignes drummer can do double bass, that kinda shocked me.

[Huber]

avril lavignes drummer can do double bass, that kinda shocked me.

Isn't it Josh Freese. Or was that just one song?

[Dannyboy15]

Ofcourse he could use a double bass pedal. They're probably studio musicians dress as sk8er bois.

[Futuro]

Isn't it Josh Freese. Or was that just one song? heh...possibly.... what a waste of talent. :)

Ofcourse he could use a double bass pedal. They're probably studio musicians dress as sk8er bois. nice avatar :lol:

[Chu]

*Sigh* Gocaps, please answer my question.

Edit: I also wanna know how to find Kirk's sound, or tone, with my amp, I dunno brands or anything so could you just say like mid 4, bass 4, gain 4 etc. or whatever...

I have no idea what I'm asking tbh

[Schecterguitarist]

[QUOTE=Chu]

Edit: I also wanna know how to find Kirk's sound, or tone, with my amp, I dunno brands or anything so could you just say like mid 4, bass 4, gain 4 etc. or whatever...

Kirk and James both do this:gain, bass, and treble all go up to ten but turn there middle to zero. I use a digitech metal master wen i play metallica and it sounds perfect :thumb:

[Chu]

Kirk and James both do this:gain, bass, and treble all go up to ten but turn there middle to zero. I use a digitech metal master wen i play metallica and it sounds perfect :thumb:
Thanks man!

[Schecterguitarist]

one of the reasons why it is tough to find metallicas unique distortion (songs like Dmage Inc. or Baterry) is because wen james records a riff he multiplies the original 30 times, he then records all them playing at the sametime and thats wut we hear on albums like MOP or RTL. Thats true thrash metal

[GaggingOrder]

I've been told that they crank Bass to 8, Middle to 8, Treble to 10, and last time I checked it sounded alright to me.

[Joe]

*Sigh* Gocaps, please answer my question.

Edit: I also wanna know how to find Kirk's sound, or tone, with my amp, I dunno brands or anything so could you just say like mid 4, bass 4, gain 4 etc. or whatever...

I have no idea what I'm asking tbh

What question is this? let's see...

I hear all the way up except the mid is all the way off. also i agree with the guy about recording, do light distortion and clone/copy a lot for the real trashy sound

[DisposableHeroes]

one of the reasons why it is tough to find metallicas unique distortion (songs like Dmage Inc. or Baterry) is because wen james records a riff he multiplies the original 30 times, he then records all them playing at the sametime and thats wut we hear on albums like MOP or RTL. Thats true thrash metal

30 times is a bit hard to believe

[Happy]

30 times is a bit hard to believe
123, 2-4 times i woulda thought.

[Schecterguitarist]

I'm not 100% sure about recording it up to 30 times but ive been told the samething by my band/music theory teacher and my guitar teacher who are both big fans of metallica and both say that Hetfield records it 30 times, then again ive nvever herd it from metallica or cn it documented, but i do believe it is 30

[Schecterguitarist]

I've been told that they crank Bass to 8, Middle to 8, Treble to 10, and last time I checked it sounded alright to me.

I am a 100% that they turn their gain, treble, and bass all the way to ten and turn their middle all the way off, it is stated on the Metallica 1983-1986 most important riffs DVD

[metalcritter666]

Absolutely correct, but most amps sound better with less bass and some mids.


EDIT: during my long absense have I missed anything even vaguely interesting? :confused:

[hethamulburton]

I hate cranking the bass all the way up, instead of a louder booming sound, you get a muddy dull thud.

[metalcritter666]

I hate cranking the bass all the way up, instead of a louder booming sound, you get a muddy dull thud.
Yea, and sometimes you get a bass "fart". Which sounds horrible

[Huber]

Yea, and sometimes you get a bass "fart". Which sounds horrible

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[metalcritter666]

They call it that, because it does in fact sound like a fart

[Schecterguitarist]

does anyone here like some of the songs from St. Anger, im not the biggest fan of the album but the unnammed feeling is a sweet intro and that breakdown part in the middle where james says f**k a lot gets me rly pissed off in a good way

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

yes, it is an excellent album, listen to Sweet Amber

[Huber]

does anyone here like some of the songs from St. Anger, im not the biggest fan of the album but the unnammed feeling is a sweet intro and that breakdown part in the middle where james says f**k a lot gets me rly pissed off in a good way

St. Anger isn't hated as much as other places around here. I love the album.

[hethamulburton]

St. Anger has it's moments.

[Six Foot Revolver]

And the whole non St. Anger hating is all thanks to me :cool:


/Be's a prick about it

[Huber]

And the whole non St. Anger hating is all thanks to me :cool:


/Be's a prick about it

I like St. Anger because of all the countless arguments I lost with my friend about it. He ended up being very right.

That was like...6 months after the album came out. I felt like a dumbass every day for about 6 months.

[Six Foot Revolver]

I meant the general mood of the album in this thread you have got to admit that I was a large influence to that. If you can into this thread a couple of months ago and said "St. Anger rawks" then everyone would turn around and go "lolwtf StAnG@r SuXxX!!!!11!!1|


/Again be's a prick about it

[Huber]

I meant the general mood of the album in this thread you have got to admit that I was a large influence to that. If you can into this thread a couple of months ago and said "St. Anger rawks" then everyone would turn around and go "lolwtf StAnG@r SuXxX!!!!11!!1|


/Again be's a prick about it

Oh no, I didn't mean you didn't do anything. Everytime St. Anger came up in a thread I just wouldn't post. I understand what you did.

[hethamulburton]

I think I didn't like St. Anger cause it was too big a change in their writing too quickly.

[Huber]

I think I didn't like St. Anger cause it was too big a change in their writing too quickly.

Every album is a huge change. The last 4 were just more drastic.

[DaveTheAmazing]

I don't really understand why so many people dislike the album. When you compare it to their last one, reload, it seems quite an improvement, then again its all about your opinions

[Huber]

I don't really understand why so many people dislike the album. When you compare it to their last one, reload, it seems quite an improvement, then again its all about your opinions

So many people anticipated it as another MoP, because that's what it was rumored to be. So, they didn't compare it to Reload, they compared it to something like MoP, and became very disappointed. Soon, after those people heard it and hated it because they didn't get there MoP2 they picked at it about how bad it was, and soon people started to hate the album before they even heard it, because it had become the cool thing to do.

[Futuro]

no guitar solos.....that was the biggest dissapointment, but i still enjoyed it.

[hethamulburton]

Every album is a huge change. The last 4 were just more drastic.

Well I mean this one was too much, if there is a thing like that. The no solos, new drum sound, tuned down on all songs, distortion and bass so high you can hardly hear the guitar in some songs. It was too quick for me personally to take it in, plus, I didn't get St. Anger- the song- I didn't understand its meaning til I saw the video, and I liked it a bit more, I respected it and not trashed it all the time like I had before.

[Schecterguitarist]

I think metallica may make another album like St. Anger. I honestly think that would be cool cuz id like to see what other grungey drop c riffs they can come up with. I honestly dont want them to come up with another album like MOP or AJFA becuz they went down that path for 10 years and they hav done it already. I say that they should become new and inventive and continue creating and make nu metal an actually decent type of music

[Huber]

St. Anger wasn't even close to Nu-metal...

It was a new breed of thrash.

Also:

Nu-metal is more than just decent music already...

[Schecterguitarist]

St. Anger wasn't even close to Nu-metal...

It was a new breed of thrash.

Also:

Nu-metal is more than just decent music already...


yah i ges, but i'd still rather see them make another album like St.Anger cuz that old school thrash has been done and to unfortunatly quote Lars on this "metal is dead". Not the most briliant thing to say on his part but i want them to be new and inventive.........except as a lead guitarist they HAVE to put the solos back in atleast 2 or 3 songs instead of none

[hethamulburton]

yah i ges, but i'd still rather see them make another album like St.Anger cuz that old school thrash has been done and to unfortunatly quote Lars on this "metal is dead". Not the most briliant thing to say on his part but i want them to be new and inventive.........except as a lead guitarist they HAVE to put the solos back in atleast 2 or 3 songs instead of none

I agree with the solos thing. But that being a new breed of thrash, no. Maybe a new breed of Heavier dropped metal metal, but it's not thrash and doesn't fit into extreme. So it can go under unique wave of heavy metal, or something.

[PepsiMetal]

St. Anger wasn't even close to Nu-metal...

I hate when people say st. anger is nu-metal. They don't even know the definition of new metal and they classify any music they dislike as nu-metal.

I think st. anger is also kinda like speed/thrash fused together.

[Chu]

What question is this? let's see...

I hear all the way up except the mid is all the way off. also i agree with the guy about recording, do light distortion and clone/copy a lot for the real trashy sound
Just wanna know the correct fingering for Seek & Destroy solo :p

In the mean time, I have been working on Ride The Lightning... How can you say Burton just follows the guitar? :x
This song would(n't) work without the bass.. Ok, but wouldn't be as good :p

Edit:
I think st. anger is also kinda like speed/thrash fused together.
Definately, it has better, faster riffs then anything since Black album (Maybe I'm missing something.. I know Black album has a few fast song, Through The Never for example) it was just the tuning and drum sound which threw it out a bit.

Maybe I'm the only one, but I believe that St. Anger was actually closer to their original sound (Ok, the sound they 'defined' i.e. Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and a bit of ...AJFA, but that's really in its own league) then either of their previous 3 releases (Not including Live albums or Cover albums, obviously)...

[Agitator01]

What the ****ing Hell!!!! who did a god **** mother ****ing hip hop tribute to Metallica? Tell me so I can assassinate them!

Well it does not nessasarilly mean the album sounds hip-Hop, it means that the bands covering metallica are hip-Hop bands...

[hethamulburton]

Do hip-hop people even go around in bands.

[Chu]

Do hip-hop people even go around in bands.
Ignore this question :p

[heavy metal kid]

Do hip-hop people even go around in bands.

well, many hip-hop people like rock-metal bands, The beastie Boys, Cypress Hill and Body Count(Rap-metal)are good examples.

ups, sorry Chu.

[thelittledrummerboy]

no guitar solos.....that was the biggest dissapointment, but i still enjoyed it.


My Friend went and saw them when they came to Sydney last Year. He said the did 4 songs off St Anger, Fuel and the rest was from the Black album back. He also said that the songs off St Anger had solo's added to them.

Maybe thats an indication that they wern't pleased with not putting solo's on the record and will do it for the up - coming album. I don't know :confused:

[hethamulburton]

That was Lars who said no solos on album. Then he saw how big a mistake that was apparently.

[thelittledrummerboy]

Yeah there was an arguement on skom between he and Kirk wasen't there?

[Bazarov]

Yeah there was an arguement on skom between he and Kirk wasen't there?

From what I understood from the movie, there was an argument between Kirk and Lars throughout the whole album because Lars wanted no solos on any songs because solos are "classic"

[hethamulburton]

Solos make songs classic, in a good way.

[mr black]

Oh dear lord, i thought we settled the constant crying over no solo's a long time ago! :smash:

[hethamulburton]

Obviously, everyone that came to an agreement, is not present.

[roulette dares 3]

Does anyone know of a poem that would match the lyrics of fade to black...suicide from loss etc? It would be great to get a response.

[MAthiAS]

Do any members of Metallica train martial arts?

[Apocalyptic Raids]

Don't they play some of the St. Anger songs with solos live anyway?

Mathias: wtf why? :p

[Hells Bells]

i liked metallica's older stuff better than there new (who doesn't?), but my favorite song out of all would be master of puppets.

i like how it goes from there normal stuff in that song, to nice and soft and slow, then to unique solo's

i also like enter sandman, its a preety well balanced song.

lets try to keep this thread alive


Mosyt people do...pppft who likes st.anger? still an aweomse band though. would be even better if theyt didn't sell out. Wwell, with that out of the way , I definitely like hte stuff from Metallica's thrash era...aka Kill Em all, Ride the lightening, and puuppets.

[DisposableHeroes]

Mosyt people do...pppft who likes st.anger?

I do..kind of :p some songs are quite good, the others not so good..the production lets it down big time IMO

[Huber]

Mosyt people do...pppft who likes st.anger? still an aweomse band though. would be even better if theyt didn't sell out. Wwell, with that out of the way , I definitely like hte stuff from Metallica's thrash era...aka Kill Em all, Ride the lightening, and puuppets.

It'd be great if that was kept out of the thread. It will just start arguments about 50-100 pages long.

[kill_em_all]

Are there any metallica friends from aus here that can sing like hetfield and wouldnt mind coming to newcastle to join a band

[hammet_ownz]

no one can crunch like hetfield. love to help though man

[Six Foot Revolver]

Guess what Metallica song I am listening to :)

[metalcritter666]

Newcastle where?

EDIT: oh right, australia :-/

[hammet_ownz]

dyers eve. i ****ing love that song and its double kick

[kill_em_all]

Newcaslte, australia

[hammet_ownz]

im too far away for you mate, im in tassie. id love to help though, i play a bit of rythym guitar as well. too bad theres what, 3000 klicks between?

[kill_em_all]

Na thats kool. atleast i no there are still aussie guitarist who are metallica fans.

[roulette dares 3]

i agree i dont know many guitarists who are metallica fansin aus (i live in WA) anymore. i'm probably the only one out of my friends that attempt to play metallica solos, but ive only recently got into metallica after listening to fade to black.i learnt the solo to that and "one" because its got a really cool tap.

[Chu]

Are there any metallica friends from aus here that can sing like hetfield and wouldnt mind coming to newcastle to join a band
Canberra here :cool:
I can sing, play a bit of bass and some rhythm, I'm trying to learn some solos now, but i'm having some trouble.

[Kirk's Puppet]

Funny how people call Metallica sell-outs.

I write songs. I wrote a pop punk song 2 years ago, then I wrote a nu-metal song a bit after that. Last year, I started writing heavy metal songs. Recently, I'm writing ballads. These are all because of my exposure to more music. From pop punk to heavy metal to jazz and classic pop. Does that make me a sell-out?

Metallica started as 4 young kids who loved metal. They wrote really heavy thrash metal, then started to include their Hendrix/etc. influences in their songs, they turned more progressive. James is a big country fan, so he wrote really soft songs on Load/Reload. The band got into the raw nu-metal sound, so they wrote St. Anger.

Does that make them sell-outs? Rich people don't need to sell-out.

[Happy]

amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)
Well the first 5 albums are filled with decent songs.

[Joe]

Funny how people call Metallica sell-outs.

I write songs. I wrote a pop punk song 2 years ago, then I wrote a nu-metal song a bit after that. Last year, I started writing heavy metal songs. Recently, I'm writing ballads. These are all because of my exposure to more music. From pop punk to heavy metal to jazz and classic pop. Does that make me a sell-out?

Metallica started as 4 young kids who loved metal. They wrote really heavy thrash metal, then started to include their Hendrix/etc. influences in their songs, they turned more progressive. James is a big country fan, so he wrote really soft songs on Load/Reload. The band got into the raw nu-metal sound, so they wrote St. Anger.

Does that make them sell-outs? Rich people don't need to sell-out.

I agree. I've gone from pop to rock to heavy metal to hard rock. It doesn't make them sell-outs. I think a lot of the stuff they do is "just because they can" because they were fuor young guys (like this war video game they're thinking about. they'd do it just because they can and guys (as a whole) like war video games)

Well the first 5 albums are filled with decent songs.

and at least half of the rest of the albums are good

:lol: i've answered that post like five times

[DaveTheAmazing]

I'm very fond of the songs on load/reload that are country :)

[DisposableHeroes]

In Cliff's last interview before he died he had said that Metallica would be experimenting with softer sounds. So it annoys me when people say stuff like "they went whimpy after Cliff died" or "they wouldnt be like this if Cliff was still around". Cliff was the one introducing all the new sounds

[Schecterguitarist]

it annoys me when people say stuff like "they went whimpy after Cliff died" or "they wouldnt be like this if Cliff was still around". Cliff was the one introducing all the new sounds

I agree, just because you dont play ridiculousy fast and insane doesnt mean that youre a poor band. Some of their greatest songs are the ballads like Fade to Black which isnt fast for rythm guitar at all. The Unforgiven is a great ballad which is also a very simple song for lead guitar. the 2nd unforgiven was even better and still showed that soft ballads are indeed apart of metal and rock. I think that by going soft it showed how diverse they could be and not whimpy

[Schecterguitarist]

dont forget to vote for Cliff in the 100 best bassists poll!!!

[hethamulburton]

I think there have been enough tellings of us to vote for Cliff. Metallica didn't go whimpy, they followed where Cliff would've wanted them to go. He wanted them to constantly change how they write, and they did that on each album, naturally there were albums that changed a little too fast like Load, Reload, and St. Anger, and that's why a lot of people thought hey whimped out cause they weren't as heavy as they were before.

[Happy]

dont forget to vote for Cliff in the 100 best bassists poll!!!
I have already.

[TheShaneOMac]

Does that make them sell-outs? Rich people don't need to sell-out.

Selling out is not just for money.

[hethamulburton]

Selling out is too harsh a term. Selling out is like going from Jason or Freddy to Barney. They changed to mainstream rock, not a sell out, people change genres all the time.

[SeekandDestroy220]

I don't think it is fair to call Metallica sellouts beecause the'yre genre changes. When a band is around for 20 yrs there is obviously going to be some sort of change in they're sound. With that said, i think that St. Anger was nowhere near as good as some of thier other albums because of the nu-metal sound it has

[brettberry]

They only way I would consider that selling out is if they told the public years ago that they would stay the same. Sounds pretty lame to stay the same music all the time to me, yeah the messed up on st.anger but they are trying to find a different sound than everyone else.

[DisposableHeroes]

I think there have been enough tellings of us to vote for Cliff. Metallica didn't go whimpy, they followed where Cliff would've wanted them to go. He wanted them to constantly change how they write, and they did that on each album, naturally there were albums that changed a little too fast like Load, Reload, and St. Anger, and that's why a lot of people thought hey whimped out cause they weren't as heavy as they were before.

i agree with you there, i mean, had they wanted to play thrash and stick to it they would have probably kept writing in a Kill 'Em All vein.

[SeekandDestroy220]

i agree with you there, i mean, had they wanted to play thrash and stick to it they would have probably kept writing in a Kill 'Em All vein.
ya- it's ridiculous to say that they went whimpy, i think that slower songs like fade to black, one , the unforgiven 1&2, and nothing else matters are metallica's best songs

[Happy]

Who said they went wimpy?

[DisposableHeroes]

i've seen it posted before(not here), maybe not in those exact words either

[Britton]

Yea A lot of people call them "sell outs" but most of them are thirteen year old girls who don't know @#$! about Metallica

to live is to die is my faverite* Tallica song

[DisposableHeroes]

Yea A lot of people call them "sell outs" but most of them are thirteen year old girls who don't know @#$! about Metallica

to live is to die is my faverite* Tallica song

actually most of them are old school guys who were there from the start of the thrash scene, just check the Exodus message board ;)

[MegaMustaine]

Who said they went wimpy?

Everyone seems to think they did that after Black Album when the hair was cut.

Dont hate me for my username.

[Joe]

actually most of them are old school guys who were there from the start of the thrash scene, just check the Exodus message board ;)


Didn't Hammett play for Exodus before he joined Metallica? That'd be why all the Exodus fans bash on Metallica because they know Metallica has a better lead.

Everyone seems to think they did that after Black Album when the hair was cut.

Dont hate me for my username.

What's their point tho?

I won't.

[Mr. Black]

Listen to The unforgiven, Also, yestaday, Metallica's Master of Puppets got to number 11 in a radio phone in poll thing THey are just great.


Keep on Rockin'

[Happy]

Everyone seems to think they did that after Black Album when the hair was cut.

Dont hate me for my username.
I love you for your username.

[MegaMustaine]

I love you for your username.

:lol:

[Joe]

:lol:

I don't hate ya or anything, I just prefer Hammett's style

[brettberry]

Didn't Hammett play for Exodus before he joined Metallica? That'd be why all the Exodus fans bash on Metallica because they know Metallica has a better lead.
They both were brand spanking new bands when all that happened. Kirk did play for Exodus but when he was recruited to Metallica you gotta remember everybody in the two bands were like 17 and 18

[ironmaiden_420]

i just started to really get into 'tallica a few months ago, and i wish i had much sooner :) they're a great inspiration for my songwriting and guitar playing now.i have pretty much all their cd's 'cept for load, and anger. i was wondering if anybody could suggest some songs with easier solo's?this may have already been posted but this is a d*mn long thread and i don't want to go through it all.

[brettberry]

i just started to really get into 'tallica a few months ago, and i wish i had much sooner :) they're a great inspiration for my songwriting and guitar playing now.i have pretty much all their cd's 'cept for load, and anger. i was wondering if anybody could suggest some songs with easier solo's?this may have already been posted but this is a d*mn long thread and i don't want to go through it all.
The easiest solo of all time by metallica: Nothing Else Matters
A cooler easy solo: Of Wolf And Man

[ironmaiden_420]

thanks bro!:thumb:

[brettberry]

thanks bro!:thumb:
No prob dude, Any songs you need to know about or have any questions just aim me brettberry222 I can play every Metallica song written except stone cold crazy

[Schecterguitarist]

i just started to really get into 'tallica a few months ago, and i wish i had much sooner :) they're a great inspiration for my songwriting and guitar playing now.i have pretty much all their cd's 'cept for load, and anger. i was wondering if anybody could suggest some songs with easier solo's?this may have already been posted but this is a d*mn long thread and i don't want to go through it all.

The solo in the inro of One is pretty basic and check out the solo from the unforgiven too from realod, i think its another hetfield solo so its in a basic a minor pentatonic on the 15th fret

[hallowed_ironmaiden]

Everyone seems to think they did that after Black Album when the hair was cut.

Dont hate me for my username.


Yeah, your username is fine, its from the METAL GODS MAAANNNN!!!! ;)

[Joe]

All of the intro solos are fairly easy.

The outro solos of Sanitarium and Four Horsemen are fairly easy

Most of the Black Album solos are cool or easy

Don't bother with most of the AJFA solos until you can handle the others, they're amazing. Any James solo is fairly easy too (Orion, NEM) also the Reload solos are pretty easy. The middle solos of Sanitarium and MOP are really easy too

Sorry, that was a long list, but they're all pretty cool. just pick a song you like and stick with it until you know the whole thing and then it'll be easy

[brettberry]

yeah you might wanna stay away from ajfa unless you want to learn that badass intro to ajfa

[JonG]

yeah you might wanna stay away from ajfa unless you want to learn that badass intro to ajfa
I just got done learning the entire song. Some good fills in there. Fun to play and easy(except the 2nd solo).

[Huber]

The begining of AJFA is really, really fun to play. I wish I was good enough to learn the solos so I could play the whole song :(

[brettberry]

The begining of AJFA is really, really fun to play. I wish I was good enough to learn the solos so I could play the whole song :(
well, make a vow to yourself to learn nothing but solos from now on until you either get good enough to move on to other things or you fail. You do need to exceed in many fields before you stick to just one.

[kill_em_all]

im working on the fade to black solos so our band can kick maximum a** in this comp coming up. we dont have much competition only punk bands playin blink 182 stuff.
i wonder who will win

[brettberry]

im working on the fade to black solos so our band can kick maximum a** in this comp coming up. we dont have much competition only punk bands playin blink 182 stuff.
i wonder who will win
that isnt considered competition its considered a waste of time and/or money

[Happy]

Hey, my bands working on Orion for a concert later on this year(hopefully). The other bands cover the same songs all the time. I can predict that there will be Blink 182-First Date, Offspring-The Kids aren't alright(i think that's it) and Black Sabbath-Paranoid and Iron Man. At least playing Orion will be something more different.

[kill_em_all]

I agree
the solos in FTB are fairly easy but theres fast bits here and there. the 2nd solo is so easy though.

[kill_em_all]

we were thinking of doing an instrumental because we dont like our singer, hes got a girls voice. if we were to do and instrumental it would be Orion (i love the bass bit at 3:59)
the offers still open for any one interested in singing in my band (australians only)

[PepsiMetal]

im working on the fade to black solos so our band can kick maximum a** in this comp coming up. we dont have much competition only punk bands playin blink 182 stuff.
i wonder who will win

Pop punk bands will probably win. After all they are pretty poppy playing blink 182 and teens are probably the only people that will listen to that event, so you probably will loose. Unless you do like enter sandman. :thumb:

[Joe]

I agree
the solos in FTB are fairly easy but theres fast bits here and there. the 2nd solo is so easy though.

Agreed. I just can't get the one fast part in the intro solo down perfectly. I've got it for the most part. I can play the rest of the song

to all talking about ajfa: i was talking about the album... i can do the beginning of the song but i haven't bothered with the last 8 minutes of the song

Pop punk bands will probably win. After all they are pretty poppy playing blink 182 and teens are probably the only people that will listen to that event, so you probably will loose. Unless you do like enter sandman.

or some incredibly kickass other metallica song from the black album

[Happy]

But don't you think playing something that hasn't been played before(Orion) has a better chance of winning than a song that's been played at every concert played?

[Joe]

OMG!!!

NP: Blood Brothers by Iron Maiden

It's off the Brave New World cd, for any fans. am i crazy or does the intro sound like cliff's bass solo in orion?!?!?!

But don't you think playing something that hasn't been played before(Orion) has a better chance of winning than a song that's been played at every concert played?

Yes but because you're a local band people want to hear lyrics. If you're going to play it do not play the whole thing. Even Metallica only plays part of their instrumentals at concerts (besides one or two like S&M).

[Schecterguitarist]

I think a lot of people will dig orion at ur competition FLOWER DANCE, its jammed pack with great riffs and everyone will get a kick out of the bass solo. The songs got something for everyone: a wicked funky bass intro, slow somewhat "classical" interlude and some good old head banging metal

[Schecterguitarist]

i actually looked up the meaning of orion and why they called it that, its because Metallica thought the interlude was kind of spacey and "mystical" so they named it after the star constallation. The call of Ktulu is actually a book written by H.G. Wells that Cliff introduced to the band and he wanted to write song about it. There is also a quote from the book in the thing that should not be: Not death which eternal lie/Stranger aeons death my die.

[Happy]

I thought The Thing That Should Not Be was about a book called A Shadow Over Innsmouth.

[Skit]

I love how they got them name for creeping death:

Cliff saw something (I think it was a cloud in the sky) and he suddenly says
"Oh my god that things like creeping death!"

:lol:

[fatbandit]

I believe they were watching a film about the great plagues actually...

:smash:

[Schecterguitarist]

I thought The Thing That Should Not Be was about a book called A Shadow Over Innsmouth.

I dont know where the idea of the song came from but I read that that one quote was from an H.G. Wells book

[Schecterguitarist]

does anyone know whrere the idea of the unfrogiven songs came from??

[Joe]

It's pretty funny, these guys write songs about books a lot and they are the last four people on earth that I would imagine being well read

[CockeyedMaverik]

the drummer was an art collector right? why wouldn't he also be well read?

[Joe]

the drummer was an art collector right? why wouldn't he also be well read?

and an artist. it's just that i don't imagine these heavy metal heads with long hair, cigarettes, and beer to be well read people

[Happy]

I don't know, from SKOM i got the image that they are much smarter than they look.

[fatbandit]

You don't get to be a band that big without some smarts behind you...

:rolleyes:

Those guys are incredibly smart businessmen.

And Cliff was big into reading, he introduced them all to a lot of what they based some songs on, I'm sure, so they may not have been as well read if it wasn't for him. Besides, they grew up, they're middle aged men now, all with an education.

:smash:

[Happy]

Cliff introduced them to a lot of things and always kept open minded. Without him i don't think they would've been half the band they are.

[Chu]

It's off the Brave New World cd, for any fans. am i crazy or does the intro sound like cliff's bass solo in orion?!?!?!
I dunno, some Motherhead songs the intro sounds exactly like Anesthesia.

[Agitator01]

In Cliff's last interview before he died he had said that Metallica would be experimenting with softer sounds. So it annoys me when people say stuff like "they went whimpy after Cliff died" or "they wouldnt be like this if Cliff was still around". Cliff was the one introducing all the new sounds

As a matter of fact if Cliff wasn't playing his bass or playing gigs he was normally listening to his favourite genre of music, Classical...
Bach was one of many people he really admired.

Also to be truthfull after 23 years of playing daily I would change my sound also! firstly of all I would be board ****less if I heard thrash every day and night for 23 years!!!

[Burdcheese]

i actually looked up the meaning of orion and why they called it that, its because Metallica thought the interlude was kind of spacey and "mystical" so they named it after the star constallation. The call of Ktulu is actually a book written by H.G. Wells that Cliff introduced to the band and he wanted to write song about it. There is also a quote from the book in the thing that should not be: Not death which eternal lie/Stranger aeons death my die.

HP Lovecraft surely?

[munky_magik]

HP Lovecraft surely?
You should post more often, me thinks.

[angusmaster]

i can buy one metallica (my mom dont like them , but said i could buy one) which one should i get

[Burdcheese]

I just drop in occassionally nowadays. Decided I needed more from life than constantly posting on MX. I haven't even been posting about which CDs I've bought or gigs I've been too (or more significantly the ones I can't go to - **** university choices in the middle of Scotland :p)

I do intend to do an FA (or two) one day though.

[Burdcheese]

i can buy one metallica (my mom dont like them , but said i could buy one) which one should i get

Most people will say Master of Puppets.

I personally would try and guide you towards S&M - live album and (almost) best off. Gives the full impression of Metallica at their best. i.e. on stage. If you can only have one - I'd suggest that (provided the stores don't jack up the price on account of it being essentially a double album)

[kill_em_all]

it depends, if you into thrash metal get "kill em all"
if your into grunge get "st anger" (it sounds very grungy to me)
but if i were in your situation i'd get "master of puppets"

[Huber]

it depends, if you into thrash metal get "kill em all"
if your into grunge get "st anger" (it sounds very grungy to me)
but if i were in your situation i'd get "master of puppets"

Are we thinking of the same grunge? That was everything but grungey to me.

[Chu]

I say Ride The Lightning, but that's just me, most people think Master..
They're both great, but I think Ride's better.

[Huber]

I say Ride The Lightning, but that's just me, most people think Master..
They're both great, but I think Ride's better.

I think he'd be very happy with either of them. Might as well flip a coin.

[Endless Obsession]

it depends, if you into thrash metal get "kill em all"
if your into grunge get "st anger" (it sounds very grungy to me)
but if i were in your situation i'd get "master of puppets"

Thats not grundgy at all.

[kill_em_all]

i ment grungy by the tones and for example the end of "all within my hands ". dont get me wrong i love the album, i like grunge, its just my opinion on the album
NP:RIDE THE LIGHTNING (LIVE IN FRANCE)

[Chu]

NP:RIDE THE LIGHTNING (LIVE IN FRANCE)
That the one where he screws up and forgets the lyrics? :lol:

[kill_em_all]

YEA. they bought it out on cd. its got the four horsemen, damage inc, lepper messiah, motorbreath, ride the lightning, and hit the lights. james stuffs up on every song.

[Chu]

Haha

[FlyingPaul_83]

I would love to see them play ride the lightning in its entirety(sp?)

[brettberry]

I would love to see them play ride the lightning in its entirety(sp?)
most would, when i saw them they didnt play any of it or load/reload and st.anger

[Happy]

I would love to see them play ride the lightning in its entirety(sp?)
I have :cool:

[Schecterguitarist]

Has anyone been to a performance wen trujillo had a bass solo?? I would like them to giv robert a little to show off on this new album cuz from wut i saw on SKOM he was better then newsted. And i wen i say bass solo i mean like from the DVDs on the binge and purge box set in seattle and San diego

[Skit]

Yeah Rob owns Jason.

What bass solo (Rob) are your refering to? Jungle Essence?

[Schecterguitarist]

Wen Robert was auditioning for their new bassist Kirk even sed that he hadn't seen it been played since Cliff. I really hope Robert shows a bass solo in the next album (crossed fingers!!)

[hethamulburton]

Has anyone been to a performance wen trujillo had a bass solo?? I would like them to giv robert a little to show off on this new album cuz from wut i saw on SKOM he was better then newsted. And i wen i say bass solo i mean like from the DVDs on the binge and purge box set in seattle and San diego

Jason was weird, his hair in Live... ****ing disgusting.

[Six Foot Revolver]

Has anyone been to a performance wen trujillo had a bass solo?? I would like them to giv robert a little to show off on this new album cuz from wut i saw on SKOM he was better then newsted. And i wen i say bass solo i mean like from the DVDs on the binge and purge box set in seattle and San diego
Trujillo is Metallica's most talented bassist to date

[Schecterguitarist]

Yeah Rob owns Jason.

What bass solo (Rob) are your refering to? Jungle Essence?


I'm taslking about Newsted, i want to see rob play a long bass solo like Newsted did on the dvds

[hethamulburton]

Trujillo is Metallica's most talented bassist to date

I don't know, if Cliff had been around more, I think they'd be about even. Rob is faster though, he doesn't use a pick. You can't really say Rob is their most talented, because he has bee non one album, and most of that he didn't write. The next album and tour will be fair game for this opinion though.

[Moses]

Trujillo is Metallica's most talented bassist to date
Most talented and wierdest. I still think they should have taken Claypool when they had the chance. I mean sure his style is different but he wouldn't be writing the songs either. Has anyone heard the Primus MOP cover?

Would have given them a kick *** bottom end too.

[fatbandit]

Rob didn't even record on St Anger, don't give him props for it.

Trujillo is fast, this is true, indubitably faster than me, although when Kirk was amazed that someone could play Battery and Whiplash fingerstyle, he shouldn't be... Loads of people can, myself included.

Rob is more talented than Jason. That is a fact. Jason was not crap though. Having been playing for over 20 years probably gives him the upper hand over Cliff too...

:smash:

[Chu]

I liked the St. Anger bassline btw :D