Metallica Inc.

[RiceMonster]

Holy Wars.
Kick The Chair.
Take No Prisoners.
Add Mechanix and My Last Words, Good Mourning/Black Friday and Tornado of Souls to that list as well. Those songs can beat out any Metallica song IMO.

I also think Dream Theater is better than Metallica. There songs are far more interesting, and adventuresome. Try and find an album by Metallica that can flow together as well as Scenes from a Memory, or any album that is a s unique, strange and adventuresome as Images and Words. Of course, this is my opinion.

[Joe]

Battery isn't even Metallica's best, hardest, or fastest song. Megadeth and Dream Theater also have tones of songs that are as fast and hard as battery. Yes Metallica influenced a lot of bands, but they were also influenced a lot by guys like Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and etc. The genre is rock. The subgenre they redefined and set a level of headbanging and heavy metal for bands like dream theater to take over one day.

[thebigyin]

Battery isn't even Metallica's best, hardest, or fastest song. Megadeth and Dream Theater also have tones of songs that are as fast and hard as battery. Yes Metallica influenced a lot of bands, but they were also influenced a lot by guys like Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, and etc. The genre is rock. The subgenre they redefined and set a level of headbanging and heavy metal for bands like dream theater to take over one day.

OK, but Dream Theater aren't Heavy Metal, they're Progressive Metal :p

[Josh]

OK, but Dream Theater aren't Heavy Metal, they're Progressive Metal :p
if you want a semi-thrash type song, download As I Am, one of my favourite Dream Theater songs.

NP: Metallica - One, S&M version. i prefer it to the studio version, it just seems better with the orchestra backing it.

[Digital Love]

if you want a semi-thrash type song, download As I Am, one of my favourite Dream Theater songs.

As I am Semi-Thrash? Hardly.

[hetfieldfan86]

Ok folks, ur right in that Holy wars, is a gr8 song..and Mustaine as written several others that hold up to most metal of the day, but i don't see how any of them match the pure ferocity and fire that Hetfield unleashes w/ Battery. And i never said it was their best. I do think its up there, cause so much "speed metal is just speed and noise w/ not a lotta coherence. I, along w/ many fans consider MOP their best song(and album). The way it hits 3 different keys, the mid-solo w/ harmony being one of the most recognizable melodic solos in metal. and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even. And to EddieVanHalen739, Dream Theater is an awesome group of musicians all of whom are basically virtuosos at what they do, i'm aware of that, but i know a lotta people that just find em too technical. I mean when u focus that much about ever single note and tone its just too technical...that not Metal....i mean the stuff Metallica was crankin out on Kill em all and RTL w/ all the attitude. Thats METAL. and which ever one of u mentioned Hendrix and Zeppelin everyone already knows they own it all..period....but thoses guys are classic..were talkin 60, and 70s.....Classic Rock, not Heavy Metal.....as far heavy Metal goes MetallicA is just the best. Metal isn't about havin the best drummer or bassist(whish Metallica had back in the 80s - Cliff Burton RIP) ever or hittin every note perfectly.

[RustedPieces]

and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even.
Shredding Solo - Anything off of Killing Is My Business.

Marty doesn't need to shred when he can pull off sweep arpeggios at 160 BPM. Ever heard 'Hangar 18'? There's 11 solos in that song that are all amazing.

Megadeth is a much more talented band instrument wise but with song writing its all down to opinion.

[thebigyin]

if you want a semi-thrash type song, download As I Am, one of my favourite Dream Theater songs.

NP: Metallica - One, S&M version. i prefer it to the studio version, it just seems better with the orchestra backing it.

I wouldn't quite say it was "semi-thrash"...... I've got Train of Thought already. Also, When Dream And Day Unite, Images and Words, Awake, Falling Into Infinity, Scenes From A Memory, Six Degree of Inner Turbulence, Octavarium.....

hang on, that's all their studio albums :p

[thebigyin]

As I am Semi-Thrash? Hardly.

Just read that^. Would have made my last post much easier if I'd read it earlier, eh? :rolleyes:

[Mazeppa]

and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even.
How about any of their solos on Rust In Peace? Also, if you listen to Friedman's solo album Dragon's Kiss, you realise that Friedman owns Kirk.

[hetfieldfan86]

Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.

[JACKROXYOU]

james is very good

[thebigyin]

Dream Theater is an awesome group of musicians all of whom are basically virtuosos at what they do, i'm aware of that, but i know a lotta people that just find em too technical. I mean when u focus that much about ever single note and tone its just too technical...that not Metal....i mean the stuff Metallica was crankin out on Kill em all and RTL w/ all the attitude. Thats METAL.

.......as far heavy Metal goes MetallicA is just the best.

Metal isn't about havin the best drummer or bassist(whish Metallica had back in the 80s - Cliff Burton RIP) ever or hittin every note perfectly.

Sorry, but SINCE WHEN WAS METAL NOT TECHNICAL?! :rolleyes:

Yeah, in my opinion Metallica IS the best HEAVY METAL band, but Dream Theater ain't HEAVY metal, it's PROG metal. As I said earlier.

And finally, OK, Cliff was brilliant..... but I still reckon that Myung is better. Either way, you can't say that Cliff was "the best bassist". Since when were you given the authority to decide on the World's Top Bassist?

[RustedPieces]

Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.
Ok, I like Metallica, I'm just sticking up for one of the greatest under rated bands of all time. And how can you judge a band when you are obviosly ignorant about them. I mean that they can play their instruments better, they have more technical riffs, and their solos are incredible as far as metal goes. And I said instruments not vocal chords, and the fact that you said James has a better voice is completely subjective.

[Digital Love]

Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.
I can't really be bothered getting into this argument, but; Technically Dream Theater blow Metallica out of the water on every aspect. It's not debatable, it's simple fact. If you can't see that then there's no point in arguing.
Also, The amount of records solds depicts a band's poularity, not their technical skill.

[Joe]

and name one solo by Mustaine or Marty Friedman that shredds as nicely as Kirks in Puppets or One even.

There are plenty. Actually, it's nice that Kirk really ISN'T a shredder. It means more talent and soul.

and which ever one of u mentioned Hendrix and Zeppelin everyone already knows they own it all..period....but thoses guys are classic..were talkin 60, and 70s.....Classic Rock, not Heavy Metal.....as far heavy Metal goes MetallicA is just the best. Metal isn't about havin the best drummer or bassist(whish Metallica had back in the 80s - Cliff Burton RIP) ever or hittin every note perfectly.

I'm joe, nice to meet you. Do some research buddy. Jimi Hendrix is Kirk's influence. If you haven't seen any live Metallica videos, you wouldn't know that. Led Zeppelin influenced EVERY guitarist (in some way) that is currently in rock or metal. And what sense does your last line make? It's just completely random. Yes I don't like DT as much as Metallica, but you're last line doesn't really hold together anything you're trying to say

[RiceMonster]

Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.
Try Herman Li and Sam Totman of Dragonforce as the best guitarist duo. Seriously, they compliment each others styles far better than Hetfield and Hammet can, while pulling off far cooler solos than Hammet. It's also two guitarists soloing, instead of just one. Megadeth even does this, which is far more interesting than just oen guitarist soling. Seriously, Heman Li and Sam totman do the same solo at the same time, and do awsome trade offs. Even the riffs to the songs show how well they play together. Download the songs "My Spirit Will Go On," "Blackfire" "Where Dragons Rule" and "Black Winter Night" for a taste of what they can do.

[thebigyin]

I can't really be bothered getting into this argument, but; Technically Dream Theater blow Metallica out of the water on every aspect. It's not debatable, it's simple fact. If you can't see that then there's no point in arguing.
Also, The amount of records solds depicts a band's poularity, not their technical skill.

'Zackly

[thebigyin]

Try Herman Li and Sam Totman of Dragonforce as the best guitarist duo. Seriously, they compliment each others styles far better than Hetfield and Hammet can, while pulling off far cooler solos than Hammet. It's also two guitarists soloing, instead of just one. Megadeth even does this, which is far more interesting than just oen guitarist soling. Seriously, Heman Li and Sam totman do the same solo at the same time, and do awsome trade offs. Even the riffs to the songs show how well they play together. Download the songs "My Spirit Will Go On," "Blackfire" and "Black Winter Night" for a taste of what they can do.

HELL YEAH!!! Goin' to see the 'Force at Edinburgh Liquid Room in September, and could not agree more.

Although, the 'Tallica duo are pretty **** good as well, I'll give them that.

[perriwinkle]

My opinion: Mustaine&Friedman > Hetfield&Hammett. Way greater.


Just listen to Hangar 18!

[hetfieldfan86]

Ok, i'd liek to start off by sayin yes I've heard Dragonforce..and yes they are kicka**. They prolly solo off eachother better than any band i've ever heard. and gocaps, ur right about Kirk. Thats probabaly why i liek him more than Mustaine. The fact that he writes solos like either of the first 2 from Sanitarium, intro to Fade to Black, Unforgiven, he just plays w/ more emotion and style than alotta other guys. and yes of course i know hes huge Hendrix fan i've seen most of Live Sh*t Binge and Purge and i have Cliff 'em all. Talk about songwriting skilld being subjective, Kirk and James
just have a knack for writing songs and riffs that sound huge! Ever since Kill em all if u think about it. ya know like the breakdown to clean part in Phantom Lord?.....and then like over half of RTL. They just have a bigger sound than most othwer bands/guitarists. That is why they RULE. Style. Tons of guys can shredd, even good shredd. Talk about Hangar 18 havin 11 solos. I've heard the aong atleast 100 times...and i can't hum any of em. Its not about quanity, quality people. U give Hammett room for 1 or 2, thats all u need.

[fatbandit]

Hm. About Cliff being the best... He was good, chuffin' good, I'll give him that. And as a bassist, yes, he influenced me, not just as a musician, but also as a person. So in that respect, yes he was good. He was also 24 when he died. That's a lot of unfulfilled potential... But who's to say he wouldn't have left after the Puppets tour and not bothered with bass ever again. So for that reason, the fact that he *could* have been great doesn't stand up. Yes, Myung is better. But Sheehan beats both of them. Sheehan can shred the hell out of Burton, and his speed, shred and tapping etc is far better than Myung's. Just don't listen to his band Mr. Big. They suck :lol:

:smash:

[Mazeppa]

ya know like the breakdown to clean part in Phantom Lord?.....
It's funny, Dave Mustaine wrote that song.

[metalcritter666]

Been a while since I've been here, have I missed anything?

[hetfieldfan86]

Ok, i've heard the name...and i swear i know this..but who is Sheehan again? and what band is he known for?.....Also, u guys know what I'm talkin about w/ Kirk and James sick ability to write huge meaningful riffs??. ..Sure the BlacK Album isn't as hardcore as all the stuff before but like every song on it is meant to be done live and sounds huge in every respect of the word. Yeeeeaah!

[RustedPieces]

It's funny, Dave Mustaine wrote that song.
Owned.

[Skit]

Hm. About Cliff being the best... He was good, chuffin' good, I'll give him that. And as a bassist, yes, he influenced me, not just as a musician, but also as a person. So in that respect, yes he was good. He was also 24 when he died. That's a lot of unfulfilled potential... But who's to say he wouldn't have left after the Puppets tour and not bothered with bass ever again. So for that reason, the fact that he *could* have been great doesn't stand up. Yes, Myung is better. But Sheehan beats both of them. Sheehan can shred the hell out of Burton, and his speed, shred and tapping etc is far better than Myung's. Just don't listen to his band Mr. Big. They suck :lol:

:smash:

Quoted for truth :thumb:

[guitarded_chuck]

Dude, how u gonna say "much" more talented? i mean Hetfield's even adorning ur user pic. and in what ways r they? C'mon bro 80, million records sold can be wrong. and Hetfield and Hammett are just the Metal tandem of all time. Well, don't get me wrong. KK Downing - Glenn Tipton and Murray and Smith are pretty good too. But as far rhythm to lead tandems. C'mon seriously....Hammett just picks up where Hetfield leaves off or at the same time. I think we both know the Might Metalli'men flow way more smooth and everyone knows James has a better voice.
:amaze:


I just listened to my old ...And Justice For All album, and it's darn good! In fact I think it's my favorite Metallica record. More epic songs, a very awesome progeressive feel throughout, and perhaps the peak of Hetfield's vocals and guitar, maybe Hammett's, and most definitley Ulrich's drumming. (even thought he was never great to begin with.) Although, people say that Lars can't even play Dyer's Eve live? The only downfall to the album is lack of Burton's influence and playing (yes he was quite skilled as a metal bassist) and that they had Newsted's bass turned way down.

I think my favorite Metallica song is To Live Is To Die. It is awesome and quite significant as far as the bands history goes.

[Joe]

My opinion: Mustaine&Friedman > Hetfield&Hammett. Way greater.


Just listen to Hangar 18!

heard it, nothing that special

yes, to live is to die is amazing

[fatbandit]

Hangar 18 is okay, but when you compare it to the rest of RIP, there's far superior songs. Take No Prisoners? Holy Wars?

I think I should just win the debate by saying Sheehan > all. And I would be right ;)

:smash:

[Immortalsoul]

Hey , I got a question. I was at circuit city the otherday and i saw this DVD "METALLICA: a yeah and a half in the Life of." And it was weird cause it the logo all in the block letters like from LOAD/ReLOAD but said and looked like like it was all from the black-era...cause James still had the hair and everything. And if u have seen it or know of it whats it like? Any good?


If you are a tru Metallica fan, and are interested in seeing them in the studio , back stage, etc yes it is a must have!

[hetfieldfan86]

So its lots behind the scenes stuff? Them jammin and screwin around and stuff? Sounds fun. I'll definitely have to pick it up next chance i get. Thanx for the tip!

[Immortalsoul]

Shredding Solo - Anything off of Killing Is My Business.

Marty doesn't need to shred when he can pull off sweep arpeggios at 160 BPM. Ever heard 'Hangar 18'? There's 11 solos in that song that are all amazing.

Megadeth is a much more talented band instrument wise but with song writing its all down to opinion.

It's ALL a matter of opinion

[Digital Love]

It's ALL a matter of opinion
No. How technically talented a badnd are has nothing to do with opinion.
Apart from people possiby exaggerating a band's technical talent because they are a fan.

[hetfieldfan86]

I gotta diasagree w/ u there Digital Love....cause there so many different soloing techniques and just techniques in general. With the exception of bands that suck compared to truly gr8 bands, it kinda does come down to opinion. Since people have such varying tastes and likes n what not some people just think certain things sound technicially better, when in fact it might not be any harder technically speaking

[Immortalsoul]

No. How technically talented a badnd are has nothing to do with opinion.
Apart from people possiby exaggerating a band's technical talent because they are a fan.


Kinda like all the mega deth fans?

[Digital Love]

Kinda like all the mega deth fans?
Becuase saying things like that makes you any better than them :rolleyes:

[Immortalsoul]

MegaDeth sales= 15 million sold ww

Metallica sales = 90 million sold ww

Let the records show for them selves.

[Digital Love]

MegaDeth sales= 15 million sold ww

Metallica sales = 90 million sold ww

Let the records show for them selves.
And what exactly is that meant to prove?

[Immortalsoul]

And what exactly is that meant to prove?

Man I'm not here to argue who is more technical in their music. It's all about style and creativity. In MY OPINION Metallica surpasses MegaDeth and according to the majority of the record-buying consumers they do(the sales charts show that). but my point earlier is that it is all a matter of opinion. what I think sounds technical may not to you. To each his own. I like a few megadeth songs, but, I'm glad they broke up and not Metallica.

[hetfieldfan86]

I see sooo much Megadeth goin down in this forum...maybe its cause the 2 bands kinda used to be rivals. and that Mustaine was in there in the beginning(don't tell me stuff like that like i don't know) but i'm just curious. Any ZAKK Wylde fans here? or better yet, u guys know if theres like BLS thread or Wylde or somethin? Cause if u wanna talk about underrated, sure u guys all prolly give him the respect he deserves. But Rolling had a list almost 2 yrs back supposed to be 100 best guitarist. and guess who was up there at #11? none other than Kirk Hammett, thats right....those guys get atleast some things right...but they had EVH down at 70?!! what?!!!.....anyway, i just feel like if u guys are gonna keep bringin up Mustaine and Freidman thought i might mention my personal favorite lead guitarist, who by the way i think is probably the best Metal guitarist ever....excpet for like Dimebag, and Randy Rhoads...w/ EVH in the somewhere.

[Digital Love]

Man I'm not here to argue who is more technical in their music. It's all about style and creativity. In MY OPINION Metallica surpasses MegaDeth and according to the majority of the record-buying consumers they do(the sales charts show that). but my point earlier is that it is all a matter of opinion. what I think sounds technical may not to you. To each his own. I like a few megadeth songs, but, I'm glad they broke up and not Metallica.
Metallica are more popular than 'Deth. That is down to opinions.
But the technical talent of a band is not because technicallity can actually be measured.

[Immortalsoul]

Metallica are more popular than 'Deth. That is down to opinions.
But the technical talent of a band is not because technicallity can actually be measured.



:thumb:

[hetfieldfan86]

Ya know this is gettin kinda stupid....just too u know. Technical, ...seriously lets get back to ROCK!!!!!!......METALLICA ROCKS! MEGADETH ROCKS!!... some us think Mega is better, more of us think 'Tallica is better.....now back to the rock and METAL!!!......
any of u guys know when Metallica's next release is due out? I've heard most likely '06....maybe even like next spring..what do u headbangers think its gonna sound like?? ideas??

[Immortalsoul]

any of u guys know when Metallica's next release is due out? I've heard most likely '06....maybe even like next spring..what do u headbangers think its gonna sound like?? ideas??[/QUOTE]


So hard to say. they are notorious, as you know, for this sort of thing.

[RiceMonster]

In MY OPINION Metallica surpasses MegaDeth and according to the majority of the record-buying consumers they do(the sales charts show that).
I am willing to bet the majority of the people buying those albums have either not heard a Megadeth song, or have not heard them at all.

but my point earlier is that it is all a matter of opinion. what I think sounds technical may not to you. To each his own. I like a few megadeth songs, but, I'm glad they broke up and not Metallica.
Well, Megadeth is still touring on gigantour, so they haven't officialy broken up. Also, incase you didn't notice, Megadeth can still write and release good material, unlike Metallica. Compare The System Has Failed to St. Anger.

/Thread regulars get pissed

[hetfieldfan86]

Personally, i think its gonna be good...maybe really good. I mean if u liked No Leaf Clover and all that kinda big epicy sounding stuff. Even though James is sober and everything now....i have a feeling thats the direction he was goin w/ things. And if were lucky maybe we'll hear some solos from Kirk. Regardless of everything else we know its gonna be decent cause we got Rob on board.

[Immortalsoul]

[QUOTE=EddieVanHalen769]I am willing to bet the majority of the people buying those albums have either not heard a Megadeth song, or have not heard them at all.


Yeah that could be true. and still further proves my point. they haven't heard of them because they are not as popular. Hey I like a few MegaDeth albums. I personally am not blown away by them. I hear Metallica weather it be from KEA or StAnger, and it just takes me. and as a guitar player myself, I prefer kirk's playing to Friedman's. simple as that. I am not trying to bash MegaDeth or their fans. I was just replying to an ignorant comment about how Megadeth's playing is more technical. The sales comparison may have been a little over the edge. My point the whole time was that is is all a matter of opinion.

[RustedPieces]

I was just replying to an ignorant comment about how Megadeth's playing is more technical.
It IS more technical, and by technical I basically mean it takes more skill. The amount of skill a person has is not opinion its a fact. Thats like saying "In my opinion the guy from Blink 182 is better then Yngwie Malmsteen". You may like the Blink 182 guys stuff better but it doesn't mean he has more skill than Yngwie.

[Immortalsoul]

It IS more technical, and by technical I basically mean it takes more skill. The amount of skill a person has is not opinion its a fact. Thats like saying "In my opinion the guy from Blink 182 is better then Yngwie Malmsteen". You may like the Blink 182 guys stuff better but it doesn't mean he has more skill than Yngwie.

How does it take more skill??? I have been playing guitar for a while now. I don't get it. it's pretty much the same style. there are differences, yes, but they are that differences not more or less skilled.



Listen to Justice. it is a pretty technical album. the guitar work is great and I just don't see Mustaine or Friedman playing as well. (at least not in MegaDeth). To be honest They are all great musicians. All successfull at what they do. I wish them all the best, but, my opinion still stands that Musicly and lyricly Metallica is the superior of the two. This is once again not a fact but my OPINION. If you don't agree, fine. You are entitled to your opinions as I am entitled to mine.

But hey this is a metallica thread right? well lets talk Metallica then and all be friends :amaze:
This is getting a little outta hand here

[Chu]

I don't know why everyone thinks Hangar 18's so good, Five Magics pwns.
If you want awesome guitar, anything from So far, So Good... So What!
Nearly every song on that album has a killer riff that's comparable to anything Metallica has done, in my opinion.
If you want emotion, Mustaine can show emotion in songs like "A Tout Le Monde" just listen to the main solo, and the outro solo.

I'm sure there are more songs, but I don't have ALL Megadeth albums, yet :evil:

Megadeth is alot more technical then Metallica.
We shouldn't even have to argue it, it's a known fact.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

I'm sure this has been said a million times, but I think Metallica's older stuff is the best. I own Ride the Lightning and the black album; I'm still kicking myself for not getting Master of Puppets when I had the chance. I despise the new songs and new album.

[Joe]

Yes, it's been said a lot.

The next thing you are doing is going to the store and buying Master of Puppets. Do not even BREATHE until you go buy it.

Hanger 18 is good, but the number of solos doesn't matter. If they were all like minute-2 minute long solos, then I'd really think it was something special, but Megadeth has better songs.

Listen to Justice. it is a pretty technical album. the guitar work is great and I just don't see Mustaine or Friedman playing as well. (at least not in MegaDeth). To be honest They are all great musicians. All successfull at what they do. I wish them all the best, but, my opinion still stands that Musicly and lyricly Metallica is the superior of the two. This is once again not a fact but my OPINION. If you don't agree, fine. You are entitled to your opinions as I am entitled to mine.

Technically for guitar and drums, it is by far the best Metallica album. I haven't heard a better group of songs that take that much skill out of Megadeth or Metallica (you notice I excluded Dream Theater because those guys kick everyone's *** when it comes to technical skill)

Ok now, enough Megadeth. It's the Metallica forum. (even though I'm off to bed, g'night mxers :wave: )

[JACKROXYOU]

HAPPY JULY 4TH!!!

Blasting metallica to crazy fireworks

[Chu]

I'm so glad to see Metallica fans appreciate Megadeth (Especially gocaps).

Edit: It's Tuesday 5th of July here :p

[xtreme_skatah]

Anyone know why Metallica didn't play in Live 8.

[Chu]

Because Metallica's all about money?

On a serious note, especially to gocaps, or any other guitarists here, can you guys play Orion?
I can play it completely (I can do parts of the solos, but all rhythm), just wondering if anyone else can?

[JonG]

I can. I can play all rhythm and lead.

[vashts80]

I am willing to bet that if you give Marty Friedman a few hours, he'll be able to play the entire AJFA album, rhythm and lead. Even now, when he's turned from thrash guitarist to j-pop guitarist.

[JonG]

Your point? Nobody cares.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Your point? Nobody cares.



exactly

[Chu]

I can. I can play all rhythm and lead.
How long have you been playing guitar?

[JonG]

About a year now. About 7 minutes, I start getting sloppy. I haven't fine tuned that part yet :\

[thebigyin]

I happen to be, as well as a Metallica and Dream Theater fan, to a lesser extent a Sum 41 fan.

But don't kill me yet.

Just wanted to ask if anybody else here thought Sum 41's "The Bitter End" was a complete ripoff of both "Throught The Never" and "Battery"? I certainly do, and have done since the first time I heard the song.

Here's a particularly funny (and yet frighteningly accurate) site for you all:

http://www.sum-ripoff.tk/

[RustedPieces]

Oh yeah I've been to that site, but even before I went there I heard that song and I thought it was a rip-off of battery. The solos sound very alike if I can remember correctly.

EDIT: WOW!! What a rip-off of battery!!

[Joe]

Because Metallica's all about money?

On a serious note, especially to gocaps, or any other guitarists here, can you guys play Orion?
I can play it completely (I can do parts of the solos, but all rhythm), just wondering if anyone else can?
I can play the first few minutes of it. I've looked through several tabs, never memorized it but I can play along if I'm listening to it.

EDIT: WOW!! What a rip-off of battery!!

TELL ME ABOUT IT!!! unbelievable

Anyone know why Metallica didn't play in Live 8.

I don't think this is the kind of cause that people would want heavy metal playing. They might have done it if it was for something else...

I'm so glad to see Metallica fans appreciate Megadeth (Especially gocaps).

(my name is joe)

[Huber]

I'm so glad to see Metallica fans appreciate Megadeth (Especially gocaps).

Edit: It's Tuesday 5th of July here :p

Most of the regulars in here like and/or respect Megadeth.


About the Sum41 thing, they've admitted countless times that they used some of there favorite songs by other bands in "Chuck". They talk about it like it's a tribute kinda.

You gotta love those guys though, the Metallica Icon performance they did was outstanding.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

Yes, it's been said a lot.

The next thing you are doing is going to the store and buying Master of Puppets. Do not even BREATHE until you go buy it.


Would if I could, Joe. I'm saving for a new guitar. :upset: No cds until I have the guitar in my hands.

[Agitator01]

To be truthfull I was always a metallica fan, about 1 month ago I bought Megadeth - A world needs a hero, just to see what the guys were all about... a week later I bought 5 more albums then the next day I bought youthanasia, one of those 5 albums was a double disk live album called ''rude awakening''

To be honest. I LOVE metallica, I LOVE megadeth but in all due respect as far as live goes Metallica have that really hard kick.. When mustain was singing i noticed alot of lazy singing, not even saying the words correctly... I also watched a video of them playing ''Peace sells'' on tv yesterday.. they just don't have the get up and go, the solos were good but they could never blow Hammett away...

below I have stated reasons as to why I have chosen metallica as best live band..

Jaymez hetfield is probably one of the best frontmen in the history of metal... He can really get a crowd going and his onstage moves and humour amuse me.

Kirk: He appears to be alot faster, his guitar sounds good all the time also (Down to the guys in the sound truck I know)

Jaymes: Has a really awesome clean voice... my favourite vocalist..

Lars: I think he can do better drum solo's, hes more certainly a better drummer... BUT, this is a big BUT, I think megadeth would take the lead for more creativity in drumming, also better drumming in tracks.. He is just more skillfull at playing drums in a band.

[RustedPieces]

Jaymez hetfield is probably one of the best frontmen in the history of metal... He can really get a crowd going and his onstage moves and humour amuse me.
Definatly. James is an amazing frontman. He gets the crowd going by like letting them sing parts of the songs and stuff like that.

[Joe]

Would if I could, Joe. I'm saving for a new guitar. :upset: No cds until I have the guitar in my hands.

Ok, so what guitar you buying? I know some friends that are really interested in the Kirk guitars, but I've never actually tried one. To be honest I love my epiphone. The fretboard is great. However, the wiring is cheap so it won't be long before you need to get the cable jack reqired. Personally Fenders I don't really like. If you have the assets, Gibsons and PRSs are incredible.

So back to Metallica, either get MOP or KEA. Then get the Justice album (technically, it's their best, since you're a guitarist)

Definatly. James is an amazing frontman. He gets the crowd going by like letting them sing parts of the songs and stuff like that.

Not only that, but I have major respect for him for singing the parts well and playing them at the same time. And he's also pretty fun to watch. It always seems like a better concert when the guys on stage are having fun, and James is always fooling around with the crowd and letting them sing and all. If you haven't seen Metallica (live, not DVD), you need to.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

Ok, so what guitar you buying? I know some friends that are really interested in the Kirk guitars, but I've never actually tried one. To be honest I love my epiphone. The fretboard is great. However, the wiring is cheap so it won't be long before you need to get the cable jack reqired. Personally Fenders I don't really like. If you have the assets, Gibsons and PRSs are incredible.

So back to Metallica, either get MOP or KEA. Then get the Justice album (technically, it's their best, since you're a guitarist)


I'm getting a Jackson DXMG Dinky w/ 24 frets. It's pretty awesome and I've heard a lot of good things about Jackson guitars. I know what you mean about the Fenders; I have a sucky-*** Fender Squire. The neck needs to be re-adjusted, it's fretting in many different places and the pickups need serious work. So I figured, **** it, I'll just get a better guitar.

Metallica. Right. :thumb: I definately want to get Master of Puppets, I have the song on my mp3 player and I love it. I remember the first time I ever heard it; I wasn't sure it was Metallica until I heard Hetfield's voice. The guitar **** is great. The only thing I've heard off Justice is Blackened; good song.

[BassMasterMike88]

James is always fooling around with the crowd and letting them sing and all. If you haven't seen Metallica (live, not DVD), you need to.

Honesty I think, letting the crowd sing practically ALL of the vocals on the R&M was pretty bad.

[hammet_ownz]

dyers eve is awesome. i just listened to it this morning and after i heard the double bass drum line i can understand why people think lars copied and pated it in the track. its pretty fast. every time i hear it i just shake my head and think that i cant even move my fingers that fast. hell, i cant even think that fast!

what you reckon? did he copy and paste it, or can it be done?

[Joe]

I'm getting a Jackson DXMG Dinky w/ 24 frets. It's pretty awesome and I've heard a lot of good things about Jackson guitars. I know what you mean about the Fenders; I have a sucky-*** Fender Squire. The neck needs to be re-adjusted, it's fretting in many different places and the pickups need serious work. So I figured, **** it, I'll just get a better guitar.

Metallica. Right. :thumb: I definately want to get Master of Puppets, I have the song on my mp3 player and I love it. I remember the first time I ever heard it; I wasn't sure it was Metallica until I heard Hetfield's voice. The guitar **** is great. The only thing I've heard off Justice is Blackened; good song.

I have a Jackson. It's got great sound, but you can't bend it well and get a good tone, at all (at least on mine).

Only Blackened?! Everyone has heard "One!!" There are some great songs on there

what you reckon? did he copy and paste it, or can it be done?

Possibly for the album, since yes you can do that. But live it's pretty incredible

[FlyingPaul_83]

I'm getting a Jackson DXMG Dinky w/ 24 frets. It's pretty awesome and I've heard a lot of good things about Jackson guitars. I know what you mean about the Fenders; I have a sucky-*** Fender Squire. The neck needs to be re-adjusted, it's fretting in many different places and the pickups need serious work. So I figured, **** it, I'll just get a better guitar.

Metallica. Right. :thumb: I definately want to get Master of Puppets, I have the song on my mp3 player and I love it. I remember the first time I ever heard it; I wasn't sure it was Metallica until I heard Hetfield's voice. The guitar **** is great. The only thing I've heard off Justice is Blackened; good song.


Listen to ..and justice for all the song. Incredible song. The riffs in that song are amazing.

To Gocaps:What kind of guita do you have? and Have you heard dyers eve live? Because you said live it's pretty incredible.

[TheDMV]

I like ...And just for all, but the faint murmurs of JAson's bass piss the hell out of em. I find some of the songs to be a litle repetetive but Kirk's solos deliver throughout.

[Bazarov]

The only thing I've heard off Justice is Blackened; good song.

Check out these great songs off of ...AJFA

And Justice For All (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3BXEL4HDMW8ET1MFBVSNX3OIKU)
One (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3RG630P9KFAKA16F39WUKNZUOW) My favorite Metallica. Inspired by the Johnny Got His Gun, not by Venom's song Burried Alive. :angry:
Harvester of Sorrow (http://s9.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3EUB5YBLU8UAT30LK8NBQNZO8K)

[hetfieldfan86]

Hey Bros, its me again..talkin about guitars? Sweet...check it..i gotta a real fender strat w/ an EMG-81 in the bridge..ya know? the same lead PU as used by Kirk and James...yeah thats right..it sounds freakin bada**. Clean, it s sounds soooo good for intros like Sanitarium, or One, or like Fade to Black. Incredible! espeacially through my 80 watt Fender princeton chorus..w/ chorus of course.....the gain isn't too heavy, so i recently gotta a Line 6 Uber Metal dist. pedal. Rock ON!!!!

[hetfieldfan86]

Btw, i just listened to that Sum-41 tune..and it defintely ripps off some Metallica...yeah, Through the Never, but the rest sounds to me like Damage Inc..not Battery..just what I'm hearing....ROCK ON!!!

[Chu]

Most of the regulars in here like and/or respect Megadeth.
Well now, yes, but I remember the last time the subject of Mustaine/Metallica came up everyone was flaming Megadeth, but no one had really heard any Megadeth as far as I knew, or maybe just the more common songs (i.e. Hangar etc.) I really love Metallica, they will always be Metal gods, but Megadeth is just as good in my opinion.

[Bazarov]

Btw, i just listened to that Sum-41 tune..and it defintely ripps off some Metallica...yeah, Through the Never, but the rest sounds to me like Damage Inc..not Battery..just what I'm hearing....ROCK ON!!!

Pfft Sum 41.

I have this one friend who is totally in to Pop-Punk. Anyway, I was at his house and Metal Mania happened to be on, and they played Metallica's one and this dumbass tried to tell me that Metallica ripped off the Blink 182's Adam's Song riff.

I had to explain to him that One, is a song about 16 years old.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Well now, yes, but I remember the last time the subject of Mustaine/Metallica came up everyone was flaming Megadeth, but no one had really heard any Megadeth as far as I knew, or maybe just the more common songs (i.e. Hangar etc.) I really love Metallica, they will always be Metal gods, but Megadeth is just as good in my opinion.


I agree

[hetfieldfan86]

[/QUOTE]this dumbass tried to tell me that Metallica ripped off the Blink 182's Adam's Song riff. [QUOTE] That is just plain sad. I mean there not even that similar. And more imoportantly were talking about a riff by METALLICA!!!....justa outa curiosity, can either of u guys play much of one?...like the long intricate clena intro>? or the classic Hammett solo at the end? i play the better part of it myself.

[Bazarov]

Well now, yes, but I remember the last time the subject of Mustaine/Metallica came up everyone was flaming Megadeth, but no one had really heard any Megadeth as far as I knew, or maybe just the more common songs (i.e. Hangar etc.) I really love Metallica, they will always be Metal gods, but Megadeth is just as good in my opinion.

Is that when people were arguing who is more technical and such?

justa outa curiosity, can either of u guys play much of one?...like the long intricate clena intro>? or the classic Hammett solo at the end? i play the better part of it myself.

I can play basically the whole song but Hammett's shred solos at the end I have trouble with.

[hetfieldfan86]

Sweet, can u pull off any Hammett solos? like flawlessy? i can basically do the first 2 from Sanitarium and the First from Fade to Black....and technically the harmony in the mid-solo in MOP is Kirk..which i luv to play. First solo i learned honestly.

[FlyingPaul_83]

justa outa curiosity, can either of u guys play much of one?...like the long intricate clena intro>? or the classic Hammett solo at the end? i play the better part of it myself.

I can play the first 2 solos( not much of a lead player) and all of the rythm parts.

[hetfieldfan86]

Hey Hrothgar..or Fltyingpaul_83...what kinda axe u guys jammin on?.....amps too....anything sweet?...any good pedals? I got stock Dunlop Crybaby, mxr Wylde Overdrive(good if u have a good amp w/ good crunch, will give u awesoem tone and sustain on either PU)

[Bazarov]

Hey Hrothgar..or Fltyingpaul_83...what kinda axe u guys jammin on?.....amps too....anything sweet?...any good pedals? I got stock Dunlop Crybaby, mxr Wylde Overdrive(good if u have a good amp w/ good crunch, will give u awesoem tone and sustain on either PU)

Dude, I play an LTD M-255. In my opinion ESP makes the best guitars in the world. I don't use pedals though. I used to, but I sold my Metal Zone after I got an amp with an effects board.

[hetfieldfan86]

thats sweet....whats in that again? I seriously want an ESP well, LTD for my next guitar after i get a good amp first......i played a KH-2 this spring..sooo nice....and the tone is sweet.....I plan on gettin the EX-400BD..ya know like James plays a lot...w/ the black diamond....and 2 EMG-81s......and the amp will be a Marshall AVT150 half stack

[Bazarov]

thats sweet....whats in that again? I seriously want an ESP well, LTD for my next guitar after i get a good amp first......i played a KH-2 this spring..sooo nice....and the tone is sweet.....I plan on gettin the EX-400BD..ya know like James plays a lot...w/ the black diamond....and 2 EMG-81s......and the amp will be a Marshall AVT150 half stack

Pretty sick.

Um..the M-255 has reveresed neck, floyd rose tremelo system, 24 frets (abalone inlays) if that's what you ment by what's in it. I have Seymour Duncan pickups installed.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Hey Hrothgar..or Fltyingpaul_83...what kinda axe u guys jammin on?.....amps too....anything sweet?...any good pedals? I got stock Dunlop Crybaby, mxr Wylde Overdrive(good if u have a good amp w/ good crunch, will give u awesoem tone and sustain on either PU)


Nope. I have a sh*t setup. I have a selfmade Flying V and an old peavey head with some random cab. or distorion I use a Ds-1 Distortion pedal. Nothing special, or even average.

Has anyone else gotten the september issue of Guitar world. In the article The Producers it says this:

How long can you go?

Eric Rachel Expains the nuts and bolts of getting good bass tone in your mix.

When metallica's ..and justice for all was released in the summer of 1988, listeners who were spinning the disc(or double-vinyl album) for the first time were often heard muttering these two things;"man these songs are, like, really long," and "Did they even bother recording Jason newsted for this thing? I can't hear any Bass guitar!" The first observation, while true, simply reflected the fact that James Hetfield and co. had deliberately chosen to push the limits of the chromatic riff as far as they possibly could. The second, however, raised an issue with much more far-reaching implications: When you've recorded your guitars to sound as heavy as possible, is there any way in heaven or hell to make the bass audible? It's a puzzler that haunts producers of extreme metal to this very day, and one that producer eric rachel has started to unravel.

[hetfieldfan86]

Thats an interesting point...something i tend to think is that is was the first album w/ out Cliff, who was almost always heard. I really think it has a lot to do w/ the bassist specifically. Ya know like Korn, or so many of these current bands that have 5-strings goin that are pretty present. I think it really all depends. BTW, i plan of installing a Floyd Rose whammy system on my stripped down Strat. and i was wondering how to go about it. since i'll have to have it routered and what not. Rcok on!!!!

[hetfieldfan86]

i'm srry, ROCK ON!!! and keep truckin, keep it comin, headbangers.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Thats an interesting point...something i tend to think is that is was the first album w/ out Cliff, who was almost always heard. I really think it has a lot to do w/ the bassist specifically. Ya know like Korn, or so many of these current bands that have 5-strings goin that are pretty present. I think it really all depends. BTW, i plan of installing a Floyd Rose whammy system on my stripped down Strat. and i was wondering how to go about it. since i'll have to have it routered and what not. Rcok on!!!!


I say YOU install on your own. It's cool knowing that you made your guitar better, not some guy in the back of your local guitar store. Just don't fu*k up.

[Bazarov]

Mine came with the Floyd Rose already installed, so I don't know how to go about installing one

[hetfieldfan86]

Do either of u know any guys who have done it?...I may just do that.....ya know for the fun and to save like 50 or 80 bux payin a guy....any help?..or know where i could like get some assistance or instruction.

[Bazarov]

I think if you go here, they'll show you??? I'm not quite sure. http://www.floydrose.com/instructions.html

[hetfieldfan86]

Thank you....tty tomorrow...P.S. ROCK ON!!!!!!

[fatbandit]

Psh. Ways to make bass audible? It should be audible anyway, in Justice, if it was mixed right. Either way, it all depends on the EQ. Some say lots of mids, will help it cut through, as with bass driven guitars, they leave more in the mid and treble ranges, which the bass can exploit. With the example of Korn, Fieldy is audible because of his EQ too. He cuts out all the mids, and boosts bass and treble, and combined with his 'rotating bitchslap' technique, you hear his characteristic click which he uses to be heard among the downtuned 7 strings.

:smash:

[Happy]

:smash: indeed.

[xtreme_skatah]

I think Metallica should remaster all their albums especially KEA and AJFA. They should do what Dave Mustaine did with his back catalogue

[fatbandit]

Why? KEA has bad production values? Sure. That's how KEA should be. AJFA has no bass? Sure. Put bass in, it stops being the same ol' AJFA. It could be cool, but I don't think they should replace the ones on general sale with remastered ones. Why not remaster St Anger with new drums while you're at it...? :rolleyes:

:smash:

[Happy]

They don't really need remastering IMO. Metallica remastered them in 1989 didn't they?

[Carlos Santana]

hey i was wondering, whos seen the Mtv napster Ad in 2000 or so with Lars in it?

[Huber]

I think the production is fine in all of the albums. There's no need for re-production. The albums with the more raw production, are pretty much raw albums.

[flamesofbodom]

Why not remaster St Anger with new drums while you're at it...?

Hmmm...

[Huber]

I'm doing Sweet Amber for the cover comptetition (hopefully), and the snare sound actually makes a difference. The tin can sound I almost like better.

[metalcritter666]

Any news on new 'Tallica album yet?

[Huber]

Any news on new 'Tallica album yet?


I don't think there is anymore news.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

Any news on new 'Tallica album yet?

There's a new one? I am way out of the Metallica circle.

[Huber]

There's a new one? I am way out of the Metallica circle.

They are working on one, that's all we know.

[Taste_My_Scythe]

They are working on one, that's all we know.

Oh ok, so it's not like there's a title out or anything. Good. I was beginning to feel really out of the loop, there.

[Joe]

To Gocaps:What kind of guita do you have? and Have you heard dyers eve live? Because you said live it's pretty incredible.

A Jackson and an Epiphone SG. I mostly use the SG

That is just plain sad. I mean there not even that similar. And more imoportantly were talking about a riff by METALLICA!!!....justa outa curiosity, can either of u guys play much of one?...like the long intricate clena intro>? or the classic Hammett solo at the end? i play the better part of it myself.

I can play most of that song perfectly. (Most)

I have sanitarium nailed, most of puppets (which you guys will hear cuz i'm submitting it. I'll tell you right now the main solo isn't perfect and the middle one is me improving, it's on purpose tho)

Oh ok, so it's not like there's a title out or anything. Good. I was beginning to feel really out of the loop, there.

No, nothing's out yet

[Joe]

wow it's been 3 pages and 8 hours since I last posted... no one's posted since???

So Metallica. What album and DVD do people want next? I want ReLoad and then Cliff Em' All

[Bazarov]

I'm thinking about buying Cliff Em' All, or actually any Metallica DVD for that matter. I have none.

[Chu]

Is that when people were arguing who is more technical and such?
Nah, someone came in ages ago and was asking who's better Hammett or Mustaine. ;)

I want Cliff 'em All, being in Australia though, it's not so easy :(
gocaps, I can't believe you don't have ReLoad?

[Joe]

I don't have it, but I want it. To be honest I really like what I've heard and I want to hear the rest. I don't have anything post black except S&M. I have a few various songs from YSI or friends, but none of the cds

Cliff 'Em All is probably online somewhere.

Hrothgar, get Live Sh*t Binge and Purge. It's the best (3 Cd's, 2 DVD's)

[Bazarov]

Hrothgar, get Live Sh*t Binge and Purge. It's the best (3 Cd's, 2 DVD's)


Hmmm I guess that's what I'll have to get at Best Buy next time I stop by.

[hethamulburton]

ill give 20 fake bucks for anyone who knows metallicas original bassist

[heavy metal kid]

Please use the edit button, and i think it is Ron Magovney(spell)

[FlyingPaul_83]

Ron mcgovney

[hethamulburton]

congrats to both of you

[hethamulburton]

what about who came up with initial riff for enter sandman
i mean the rough raw riff

[heavy metal kid]

kirk hammett then lars modify it.

[JonG]

"The rough raw riff".


Okay...

[hethamulburton]

i hate u guys ur too good

[heavy metal kid]

nope, but could you please stop double and triple posting?, someone with less patience can report you, and you can get banned. :thumb:

[hethamulburton]

thank you for the warning

[heavy metal kid]

thank you for the warning

That's nothing, i like the best for these forums, now before someone see your post delete them(only the double and triple).

[hethamulburton]

got it all
do anyone know if metallica is planning on a new album soon, im curious to see if they include solos this time

[FlyingPaul_83]

Yes there is a new album, we don't know anything other than that they are working on one.

[hethamulburton]

ssssssswwwwwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eetttt
i cant wait as long as they change the drum sound
anyone else hate that drum sound besides me

[Bazarov]

Wow, I didn't know they were working on one. Do you have a link?

I used to think that St. Anger was made to reach out to all the Nu-Metal fans and such so Metallica can get an even bigger fanbase, but after seeing Some Kind of Monster, I realized that Lars is a trendy bitch who controls almost every aspect of Metallica, and because he believes "Solos are classic" and "old" he'll most likely limit Kirk's soloing on the new album. But I hope not.

[hethamulburton]

id like to punch lars's face in man hes such an @$$

[xtreme_skatah]

^^^
True that

[JonG]

That's been said before, quit saying it over and over again. He may not be the best at drums but sure can sue people :)

[heavy metal kid]

That's been said before, quit saying it over and over again. He may not be the best at drums but sure can sue people :)

and he always wins, trust me.

[Bazarov]

I thought Lars dropped the Napster Case, once he realized it was hurting Metallica's fanbase.

I mean did any of you see that show on VH1 "Metallica Rules the World"? They showed clips of people out front of the courthouse braking Metallica CD/Records and ripping shirts up.

[GaggingOrder]

I thought it was pretty hip that he named all the users that downlaoded Metallica songs. It's like , "Hey, Lars just said my user name!" Lars is a decent drummer in my opinion, but he comes off as a really stupid person to me.

I think I'll hit 400 posts tonight.

[heavy metal kid]

I thought it was pretty hip that he named all the users that downlaoded Metallica songs. It's like , "Hey, Lars just said my user name!" Lars is a decent drummer in my opinion, but he comes off as a really stupid person to me.

I think I'll hit 400 posts tonight.

stupid i don't think so, he's a financial genious.

[Bazarov]

He's an artist too, he sold a few of his paintings and made like 2 million dollars.

[GaggingOrder]

I dunno, I don't know much about him, but he just looks kind of dumb and he talks funny.

He got goddamn drunk during the art auction.

[PepsiMetal]

I thought Lars dropped the Napster Case, once he realized it was hurting Metallica's fanbase.

Well is Napster available for free music sharing now? :lol:

Eminem, Metallica (lars), and RIAA pretty much shut the napster down.

[Kayetan]

That's what yousendit threads are for now.

[Bazarov]

He talks funny because he from Denmark. Eminem tried to shut down Napster too?

[Chu]

That's what yousendit threads are for now.
rofl

[skidlydidily]

:evil: metallica rule i havent heard a better band ever in my life :evil:

[Chu]

:evil: metallica rule i havent heard a better band ever in my life :evil:
You haven't listened to much music... Have you?

[Endless Obsession]

You haven't listened to much music... Have you?

Ive listened to all different kinds of music, and all different bands in that kind, and Metallica is still my favorite band ever.

[Chu]

Meh, you'll grow out of them eventually.

[trev913]

I just got Live **** a couple of days ago. Pretty good album.

[Endless Obsession]

EVERYONE GO VOTE FOR CLIFF IN THE TOP 100 BASSISTS POLL!!!

now!

[PepsiMetal]

You haven't listened to much music... Have you?

So you're saying a person can't have a favorite band? :confused:

Or are you saying he can only favor those underground unknown bands that are cool for that reason?

[heavy metal kid]

So you're saying a person can't have a favorite band? :confused:

Or are you saying he can only favor those underground unknown bands that are cool for that reason?

i think he's saying that there's better bands that metallica, 'cause the other guy said that he hasn't heard anything greater than metallica.

metallica is my favorite band, but i know there's way betters bands than metallica in the world.

[Huber]

A favorite and a best is very different. Metallica is one of my favorite bands, but I know they aren't the best.

[PepsiMetal]

i think he's saying that there's better bands that metallica, 'cause the other guy said that he hasn't heard anything greater than metallica.

metallica is my favorite band, but i know there's way betters bands than metallica in the world.

There are more talented bands out there, but best band is the one you like the best. And nobody really listens to music cause band is talented or not.

When someone says they're the best band, they probably mean they sound the best. Meaning they have best sounding songs. Not that they are the most talented.

[Huber]

There are more talented bands out there, but best band is the one you like the best. And nobody really listens to music cause band is talented or not.

When someone says they're the best band, they probably mean they sound the best. Meaning they have best sounding songs. Not that they are the most talented.

Sadly, that isn't true. Lots of people will say something is the best, because they are ignorant and think that it is better than everything else, and that's the literal meaning, and how some people mean it.

It's safer to say favorite.

[heavy metal kid]

There are more talented bands out there, but best band is the one you like the best. And nobody really listens to music cause band is talented or not.

i think the best band is really the best, not just your favorite.
when someone has a crappy band(not metallica) as his favorite and he close his mind saying that they are the best, people will disrespect his musical knowledge and he probably become ignorant.

[flamesofbodom]

A favorite and a best is very different. Metallica is one of my favorite bands, but I know they aren't the best.

I agree. They are my fav. band but there's plenty of dudes that could probably beat them in talent....like Michael Angelo Batio!

[Huber]

I agree. They are my fav. band but there's plenty of dudes that could probably beat them in talent....like Michael Angelo Batio!

My friend showed me some videos of him shredding. He's crazy fast.

[flamesofbodom]

He harmonizes with himself using his double neck. That has to say something

[heavy metal kid]

My friend showed me some videos of him shredding. He's crazy fast.

have you seen him playing the double guitar? is awesome.

/hearing s&m, i forgot how awesome that album was, i like to hear a No Leaf Clover studio version.

[Huber]

have you seen him playing the double guitar? is awesome.

Yeah, I saw that. Crazy dude.

[Joe]

Sadly, that isn't true. Lots of people will say something is the best, because they are ignorant and think that it is better than everything else, and that's the literal meaning, and how some people mean it.

It's safer to say favorite.
Yea like people that say the White Stripes is the best...

Metallica is my favorite band. They are now far from the best (even though if it were '86 I'd say they were both) because of bands like Dream Theater and etc nowadays.

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any news on metallica and the next album

[Ibanex0110]

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coolest thing ever

[Bazarov]

My friend showed me some videos of him shredding. He's crazy fast.

Is it the Speed Kill video?

[hethamulburton]

That's been said before, quit saying it over and over again. He may not be the best at drums but sure can sue people :)

I never said lars sucked i just hate that sound, and I think he was onto something back then. Cause now everyone in the music industry is pissed about downloading places.

[RustedPieces]

Metallica online radio station 24/7. http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=11362. :thumb:

[GaggingOrder]

Yea like people that say the White Stripes is the best...

Lars likes White Stripes...

coolest thing ever

Though completely irrelevant.

Metallica online radio station 24/7. http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=11362.

Nice.

[JACKROXYOU]

white stripes?

[*corpse*crawler*]

^^thanks guys
i have a question?

What do you think Metallica's new album will be like, if they come out with one, will they come out with another one??
i think it will be awsome like the rest of their albums

[Agitator01]

Originally Posted by iliketoplaydrums10111
^^thanks guys
i have a question?

What do you think Metallica's new album will be like, if they come out with one, will they come out with another one??


Yes it is official that they are hitting the studios early 2006 to create an album that will hopefully be realeased in the mid summer.

[whatduffhuck7]

i think it will keep getting worse like st anger. i hope they go back to there roots. that would be real nice

[Whale and Wasp]

i think its going to be 90s-ish for some reason

[Metalhead1409]

i think it will keep getting worse like st anger. i hope they go back to there roots. that would be real nice
St. Anger wasn't that bad. I think people hate it so much just because its Metallica and we have heard so much more better stuff from them. I think The new album will be better than St. Anger the new Bassest, Robert Trujillo is an awsom bassist and i think he'll change thing up just a little bit, but it would be awsome if they make atleast one more thrash album.

[Any Colour You Like]

Im with the guy above.If they come out with a new album it will be far better than st. anger because that crazy caveman of a bassist will be able to put his input and expertise into the mix unlike anger when by the time he joined all of it was written and all he did was play it

[thetrooper]

yeah i agree. im a fan of st. anger and all, but i think it could have been better. my personal fav. album is ...and justice for all. ive been a fan ever since my dad was playing one in the house. i was 2. metallica is the best band of all time. is anyone tired of jason and all of his b.s.? cuz i am. i can't believe he left METALLICA for some gay jazz band. i mean come on people its the best band of all time. i think ive rambled enough

[flamesofbodom]

They treated jason like **** and never played the songs he wanted live. He was a good bassplayer though. Listen to My Friend Of Misery

[Metalhead1409]

They treated jason like **** and never played the songs he wanted live. He was a good bassplayer though. Listen to My Friend Of Misery
What songs did they not play that he wanted to? I looked like he really enjoyed playing Seek and Destroy

[Metalhead1409]

I whatched the Some Kind of Monster DVD and it seem to the band that Jason left in hopes of breaking up Metallica. When they started recording and stuff, Jason wanted back in but the band didnt want him.

[flamesofbodom]

What songs did they not play that he wanted to? I looked like he really enjoyed playing Seek and Destroy

Thorn Within. It was his favorite song.

[Bazarov]

I think we're all hoping for an album that isn't St. Anger style, but the fact is Lars basically runs the band, and he thinks that solos are outdated, there will most likely be very little solos. And we'll probably have to listen to steel snare drums again. But I hope I'm wrong and they produce atleast another Black Album style, but I'd love for another ...AJFA.

[Metalhead1409]

From what i gather, Larz only wants to go in the direction of what every other band is going in. I say who cares whats going on now, Metallica is the greatest heavy metal band of all time and the solos are what made many of there songs great. Without solos, what do you have? The same on going beat that gets anoing way to fast.

[flamesofbodom]

**** Lars. I dont think Kirk will let that happen again anyway

[Bazarov]

Yes, that's true, in Some Kind of Monster him and Kirk got into a dispute about this. Lars said that solos were classical and outdated and to keep doing solos would be trendy. Kirk got pissed and told him that all the newer metal bands nowadays don't do solos and to stop doing them would be what is really trendy. And Lars won.

[JACKROXYOU]

lars is a drummer anyway what the hell does he know

[brettberry]

From what I gather, In my own debateable opinion, Lars wants to get more or a drum solo or even allow the drums be significant to their music. Which is kinda understandable seeing as how he isnt that good of a drummer and he barely gets any kind of a solo in the history of metallica. Try to understand that Lars isnt trying to be a bad person, you would probably do the same thing if you were in his shoes. I just think that after what happened between Lars and Napster made him lose a lot of fans. It broke my heart the day I seen a bunch of I HATE METALLICA signs on tv because of that.

[Metalhead1409]

I was really heart broken when they cut their hair

[Britton]

Me too

[RiceMonster]

Who cares if they cut there hair? Does it really affect the music?

[heavy metal kid]

i really don't give a damn, not even when they release their "sould out" albums, i respect them by their live shows and their old works, and if they can still play that i don't care how they look like.

and about the people saying we hate metallica on the tv, every band/person has haters.

[brettberry]

i really don't give a damn, not even when they release their "sould out" albums, i respect them by their live shows and their old works, and if they can still play that i don't care how they look like.

and about the people saying we hate metallica on the tv, every band/person has haters.

and that is understandable but you cant hate metallica because of what they did with napster. that is just plain stupid as hell. not saying that really its just it makes me mad.

[Metalhead1409]

Who cares if they cut there hair? Does it really affect the music?
they cut there hair and then went to release load and reload

[JACKROXYOU]

i really don't give a damn, not even when they release their "sould out" albums, i respect them by their live shows and their old works, and if they can still play that i don't care how they look like.

and about the people saying we hate metallica on the tv, every band/person has haters.

thank you

[Metalhead1409]

i really don't give a damn, not even when they release their "sould out" albums, i respect them by their live shows and their old works, and if they can still play that i don't care how they look like.

and about the people saying we hate metallica on the tv, every band/person has haters.
your right

[heavy metal kid]

they cut there hair and then went to release load and reload

yeah, but the live shows where awesome.

[JACKROXYOU]

they cut there hair and then went to release load and reload

you are a loser!!!!

they aren't sampson, the hair wasnt they're power source

[Chu]

you are a loser!!!!

they aren't sampson, the hair wasnt they're power source
rofl
Chill bro.

[JACKROXYOU]

he is the official 1000th person who think the hair cut was metallicas biggest mistake

you know what that makes them? gay!

[Metalhead1409]

you are a loser!!!!

they aren't sampson, the hair wasnt they're power source
I didn't mean to say there hair itself was where there music came from. Getting it cut was just a sign that they'er getting older and changing along with their music style. I do like Load and Reload and all the more reasent stuff but I just happened to like the older stuff better.

[brettberry]

he is the official 1000th person who think the hair cut was metallicas biggest mistake

you know what that makes them? gay!


LOL bro, I totally agree with you man. You know VH1 did a documentary on Metallica and mentioned them cutting their hair like it was a bad thing.

you know, i actually thin james looked a lot cooler with his hair short. he kinda looks like what i imagine satan would look like. :evil:

[JACKROXYOU]

good

[Metalhead1409]

he is the official 1000th person who think the hair cut was metallicas biggest mistake

you know what that makes them? gay!
So u sayin metallica's gay?

[JACKROXYOU]

no the people who care about they're hair

[brettberry]

So u sayin metallica's gay?


noooooo, dont go pickin fights now!

[Bazarov]

The whole hair dispute is stupid, who cares. Long hair doesn't make a metal band any better. Anyways, I have a question to those who saw Metallica on the Madly In Anger With The World tour.

When I was in line to buy my tickets there were a few people behind me that had been going to all the concerts to see them in America. He said he lived in Vegas and had seen them 6 times on the tour already. He said that the first two songs they opened with everytime was first Blackened, then Fuel.. and then random songs. At the venue you saw them did they first play Blackened then Fuel? If you can remember.

[heavy metal kid]

The whole hair dispute is stupid, who cares. Long hair doesn't make a metal band any better. Anyways, I have a question to those who saw Metallica on the Madly In Anger With The World tour.

When I was in line to buy my tickets there were a few people behind me that had been going to all the concerts to see them in America. He said he lived in Vegas and had seen them 6 times on the tour already. He said that the first two songs they opened with everytime was first Blackened, then Fuel.. and then random songs. At the venue you saw them did they first play Blackened then Fuel? If you can remember.

i remember they openned with blackened, but i dont remember with wich one was the second either Fuel or Harvester of Sorrow

http://www.livemetallica.com/stash.asp

check them here

[Bazarov]

Did they do the whole scene from The Good, The Bad, The Ugly when that Mexican is in the graveyard? Right before blackened they showed that scene on a huge *** screen.

[heavy metal kid]

Did they do the whole scene from The Good, The Bad, The Ugly when that Mexican is in the graveyard? Right before blackened they showed that scene on a huge *** screen.

yeah that was cool, before that they play on the screen some Some kind of monster pick.

wich venue do you go?

[Bazarov]

I was at San Diego. Kick *** concert, but they played nothing off of Ride the Lightning. That was a major bummer.

[heavy metal kid]

I was at San Diego. Kick *** concert, but they played nothing off of Ride the Lightning. That was a major bummer.

i went to san diego too, i was waiting for fade to black, but they did not played it, at least we got turn the page(they rarely play that), another think that bother me was that i wanted to hear live the unforgiven and they didn't played.

Godsmack were awesome too, the drumm duo was great.

[Bazarov]

Seriously, I had no idea that Sully could play drums. He was actually pretty good. When James asked for if we wanted a slow or fast song.. I felt alone because I cheered for a slow song because I thought it was going to be there last song and I wanted Fade to Black.

[brettberry]

Seriously, I had no idea that Sully could play drums. He was actually pretty good. When James asked for if we wanted a slow or fast song.. I felt alone because I cheered for a slow song because I thought it was going to be there last song and I wanted Fade to Black.
what did they play?

[Bazarov]

Last Caress, misfits cover.

[heavy metal kid]

Seriously, I had no idea that Sully could play drums. He was actually pretty good. When James asked for if we wanted a slow or fast song.. I felt alone because I cheered for a slow song because I thought it was going to be there last song and I wanted Fade to Black.


their last song is never fade to black, but i got to admit the show was awesome, cutting the end of nothing else matters with a pause to continue with master of puppets was great, also the pyro efects at the one intro were deafening.I really wanted to see Rob's new solo, this was my second time on a metallica show and it was great.

[FlyingPaul_83]

That sucks that they didin't play anything from RTL, Best Album IMO.
They didn't even play For whom the bell tolls? I thought that was a song that they always played? No creeping death either? **** thats too bad.

[brettberry]

Last Caress, misfits cover.

they asked us the same thing in atlanta and they played orion

[heavy metal kid]

Last Caress, misfits cover.

actually the last song was Seek and Destroy, but when he asked for the slow or fast song i think it was the misfits one.

[Bazarov]

Yeah, when he was all "San Diego, do yo want a slow song? Medium song? Fast song?" everyone cheered and he played that misfits song.

[heavy metal kid]

That sucks that they didin't play anything from RTL, Best Album IMO.
They didn't even play For whom the bell tolls? I thought that was a song that they always played? No creeping death either? **** thats too bad.

well, the first time i went to a metallica concert, i don't care wich song they play, the simple fact that i was going to see my favorite band make the concert worth.

but in this concert i missed RTL,is my favorite album, but they play great.

[brettberry]

I am going to change the subject here but what did everyone think when avril lavine played a metallica song at the mtv music awards in 2003?

[Bazarov]

I didn't really care for it. I mean it was better than Limp Bizkit's cover of Welcome Home.

[Metalhead1409]

I am going to change the subject here but what did everyone think when avril lavine played a metallica song at the mtv music awards in 2003?
:upset: :lol: :upset: :lol:

[heavy metal kid]

I am going to change the subject here but what did everyone think when avril lavine played a metallica song at the mtv music awards in 2003?

it was on the mtv metallica icon.

and the cover sucked, maybe avril, the musicians of her bands were ok.

[brettberry]

I think it sounded horrible

[Metalhead1409]

I think Korn had the best performance

[brettberry]

I think Korn had the best performance

when they did ONE? that was awesome but why didnt they do the last solo?

[Bazarov]

Her voiced really ruined it for me. No one can sing like James.

[Metalhead1409]

when they did ONE? that was awesome but why didnt they do the last solo?
I don't know maybe it was just beyond monkey or heads ability

[brettberry]

I don't know maybe it was just beyond monkey or heads ability

I can play it, i know monkey and head can. just because theyre that cool.

[lionelhutz88]

monkey and head are actually decent guitar players, they just don't show it. One is a pretty easy solo, actually. It just sounds hard.

[brettberry]

monkey and head are actually decent guitar players, they just don't show it. One is a pretty easy solo, actually. It just sounds hard.

exactly

[Chu]

It's something about respect for Metallica, so they didn't play the solo, kinda weird, but fair enough.

Edit: So Hrothgar, and heavy metal kid, you guys went to the same concert?
That would have been mad, but as said, it needed some Ride The Lightning.

[Metalhead1409]

it didnt sound right but it was still awesome

[brettberry]

well it sounds right if you dont compare to metallica but to korn

[Bazarov]

It's something about respect for Metallica, so they didn't play the solo, kinda weird, but fair enough.

Edit: So Hrothgar, and heavy metal kid, you guys went to the same concert?
That would have been mad, but as said, it needed some Ride The Lightning.

Yeah I'll take some RTL over Misfits anyday. Another thing that kind of was a bummer is that the San Diego Sports Arena has terrible sound quality. But whateve's, it was Metallica man.

[heavy metal kid]

Yeah I'll take some RTL over Misfits anyday. Another thing that kind of was a bummer is that the San Diego Sports Arena has terrible sound quality. But whateve's, it was Metallica man.

the sound was average, some solos were a little faded.

i don't know if you notice, but when Rob was playing his solo, the people were kind of confused, some part were cheering and the other was listening, but when he started to play the orion bass part, the whole arena explode into cheering.

[hammet_ownz]

i got a recording of one of robs solo's (thanks channel 'v' {australian MTV})
it sounds pretty funky, but not very metallica like. looking forward to new album but.

[Joe]

the sound was average, some solos were a little faded.

i don't know if you notice, but when Rob was playing his solo, the people were kind of confused, some part were cheering and the other was listening, but when he started to play the orion bass part, the whole arena explode into cheering.

At my concert, Rob's solo was amazing. He was doing all sorts of crazy tapping and stuff. The sound quality wasn't great, but if you get the cd it's better.

I just listened to the solo again, and they did Orion at the end. Cool... i didn't know they did that at the concert

[Apocalyptic Raids]

How much do they play of RTL these days anyway?

[iamkirk]

monkey and head are actually decent guitar players, they just don't show it. One is a pretty easy solo, actually. It just sounds hard.

So good they have to tape the strings down they don't use when they're recording to stop accidently hitting the wrong notes. Apart from that they're good at just playing bad live. Although the One cover was ok.

[fatbandit]

Uh, that was Sum 41, not Korn as far as I know. Anyway. If they do that, so what? People use all sorts of tips and tricks to make themselves sound better on CD. Hell, half the CDs out there have session musicians playing on them, not the band... :rolleyes:

They're not bad guitarists. I really hate people ragging on them for being Nu-Metal guitarists. I just hate Head for leaving and being a douche on account of God :)

:smash:

[Happy]

So what if Korn use tape to cover strings they don't play. Lars used a session musician on Metallica's early albums.

[hethamulburton]

I don't like Korn, their songs are too different I guess, lots of breaks with weird guitar parts, but I didn't now that about Lars, I know though that James is just as good, if not better than Lars on drums.
See Live Sh!t Binge and Purge- for the drum session I'm talkin about.

[Happy]

I don't like Korn much either. I heard that one of the reasons they stopped doing the drum duel thing was because James was getting better than Lars.

[hethamulburton]

It is true, James kept up and even beat Lars with his "hardest" stuff. The thing is, is that James was trashed while doing it, and Lars was prob only mildly intoxicated, so he could "concentrate". :lol:

[Joe]

How much do they play of RTL these days anyway?


All of it, I saw it a few months back

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