Metallica Inc.

[Chu]

Now for Kirk and Dave...

Speed- Dave > Kirk
Skill - Kirk > Dave
Soul - Kirk > Dave
Riff Writing - Dave > Kirk
Luckier, richer, and more famous - Kirk > Dave
My favorite - Kirk > Dave

that's all in my opinion
Never thought I'd agree with you!
But, I agree with you, to a point. was the Luckier, richer, and more famous needed though?
My personal favourite is Dave, I also think Dave has more soul then he is often given credit for. Whether he has more soul then Hammett, I'd probably say Hammett.

Edit: The few songs I like Kirk's solos (Fade To Black for example) I think Kirk has huge emotion in, I don't think Mustaine could ever have that much emotion in a solo, so I prefer Kirk in that sense, but unfortunately, Kirk didn't write enough good solos :(

[PepsiMetal]

Am I the only one that likes James' solos more than both dave's and kirk's? They're all great, but james just puts that jiffy jiff into it. lol

[ThrashMaster27]

Am I the only one that likes James' solos more than both dave's and kirk's? They're all great, but james just puts that jiffy jiff into it. lol

Perhaps if he did more solos then we could have a good comparison between the 3, but until then I think you'll be the only one.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

Ill just come in here by saying :
In New Zealand, we had this Top 1000 Rock songs of All Time on The Rock FM. And Enter Sandman won. The thing I hate more than the idea of a countdown of this magnitude on a mainstream radio channel, is casual Metallica fans, the people that think Enter Sandman is the greatest, heaviest song ever invented. For shame NZ for shame. :upset: And Master Of Puppets was nowhere to be seen in the countdown. All Black Album, Load, Reload and St. Anger songs. :amaze: There was One.....but that's it.

[madlyinangerwithu]

Perhaps if he did more solos then we could have a good comparison between the 3, but until then I think you'll be the only one.

i love james's solos he does solos in concert if u go to their concerts u will see that they are all skilled. id have to say they are all very skilled and we are all lucky to have skilled musicians in this genre. most bands just hit their instruments and scream bands like metallica, megadeath, slayer, etc. are good at what they do and i dont care what band it is as long as its metal. each of them have areas that are better.


edit: i just wanted to add, just because somethings mainstream does not make it bad nor does it make it good. enter sandman is a great song and it is heavy, no not the heaviest MOP runs circles around it but enter sandman is great and deserves to be up there. its finally nice that the world sees Metallica as a force in music

[PepsiMetal]

Ill just come in here by saying :
In New Zealand, we had this Top 1000 Rock songs of All Time on The Rock FM. And Enter Sandman won. The thing I hate more than the idea of a countdown of this magnitude on a mainstream radio channel, is casual Metallica fans, the people that think Enter Sandman is the greatest, heaviest song ever invented. For shame NZ for shame. :upset: And Master Of Puppets was nowhere to be seen in the countdown. All Black Album, Load, Reload and St. Anger songs. :amaze: There was One.....but that's it.

What is your point? Some people like saint anger more than other albums. Not everyone likes every same kind of song and music. Some people like good charlotte more than metallica. So what? It's their own musical preference really. I mean you can find on the street many people that would prefer black album over the first 4 albums. Not everyone likes the raw thrashy type. I dont think there is a right answer to which songs, albums, bands, etc. are best. :thumb:

And I agree with madlyinangerwithu, enter sandman is a great song. It doesn't really matter if it's not as thrashy, or if it's more popular, etc.

[madlyinangerwithu]

ill agree with u too a certain extent pepsimetal. people have the right to their own tastes. but does that mean their good? some people like brittany spears and we all know that shes a poser to music. she and all those other "bands" make music s*** and i cant stand that people like them. i just want to puke knowing that they are making millions of more dollars then real bands like metallica and megadeath. it is an insult to me. metallica are "sellouts" because they cut their hair and sued napster but brittany spears is great even though shes more of a sellout then anyone else.

[PepsiMetal]

Right, britney spears, and all other crappy pop stars are all garbage. But pop itself still has good artists/bands. Britney Spears is like good charlotte of pop punk.

[madlyinangerwithu]

...when everyone else writes your songs, coreagraphs your dance moves, lipsyncs to the song, plays no instrument, and dresses like a s***. i c nothing good in that and its garabage how everyone treats metallica, at least they dont pretend to be something their not! i have no problem with punk bands its just rap and pop that pisses me off


edit: does anyone like the song I Disappear?

[ThrashMaster27]

i love james's solos he does solos in concert if u go to their concerts u will see that they are all skilled. id have to say they are all very skilled and we are all lucky to have skilled musicians in this genre. most bands just hit their instruments and scream bands like metallica, megadeath, slayer, etc. are good at what they do and i dont care what band it is as long as its metal. each of them have areas that are better.


edit: i just wanted to add, just because somethings mainstream does not make it bad nor does it make it good. enter sandman is a great song and it is heavy, no not the heaviest MOP runs circles around it but enter sandman is great and deserves to be up there. its finally nice that the world sees Metallica as a force in music

I've seen Metallica twice. I never doubted his skill on Guitar, when did you see that? Point is he rarely solos on Metallica records and that's what was being discussed.

Finally?!?! They've been popular as hell since the Black Album. The world does see Metallica as a force in Music and not just Metal either.

[madlyinangerwithu]

did i not say they were a force in music? yes he does not do a lot of solos and thats because he cant have the spot light the whole time. he cant just start doing solos when hes the singer because then what would kirk do? :)

[PepsiMetal]

Right, james is rhythm guitarist and kirk basically does most solos, but that's just because he and james want him to. Imagine if james did whole guitar parts, and vocals. That would leave kirk out of the band basically. I like James' solo in NEM, although he should have made it a bit longer. It's too short. Hmm, did james or kirk write that solo? :confused:

[Griffin_Page]

did i not they were a force in music? yes he does not do a lot of solos and thats because he cant have the spot light the whole time. he cant just start doing solos when hes the singer because then what would kirk do? :)

You have a lot to learn about music, my friend.

Since when does being the singer mean that you can't play lead guitar? I'm guessing you've never heard Death, Bodom, Megadeth... actually, I'm going to guess that maybe you've never heard any other metal band?

Oh, and contrary to what Kirk Hammett says about his non solo playing now (I've already proved myself, Metallica fans knwo that i can write solos).... solos are not just some guy in a spotlight wanking off (sadly it is a lot), its supposed to add something to a song.

[heavy metal kid]

Right, james is rhythm guitarist and kirk basically does most solos, but that's just because he and james want him to. Imagine if james did whole guitar parts, and vocals. That would leave kirk out of the band basically. I like James' solo in NEM, although he should have made it a bit longer. It's too short. Hmm, did james or kirk write that solo? :confused:

i think james wrote that solo, besides the song was written by hetfield and ulrich.

[madlyinangerwithu]

You have a lot to learn about music, my friend.

Since when does being the singer mean that you can't play lead guitar? I'm guessing you've never heard Death, Bodom, Megadeth... actually, I'm going to guess that maybe you've never heard any other metal band?

Oh, and contrary to what Kirk Hammett says about his non solo playing now (I've already proved myself, Metallica fans knwo that i can write solos).... solos are not just some guy in a spotlight wanking off (sadly it is a lot), its supposed to add something to a song.


:) <--- indicated at joke...
griffin_page never heard of a joke?


edit: Ive heard a ton of other metal bands its basically the only type of music i listen too. but your right i havent heard death or bodom but megadeth is a great band...every solo in metallicas history has added somthing to their songs thats why everyone got upset when st. anger didnt really have any which is why i agree with u on that part but of course people didnt see the power in st. anger not many guitar solos but lots of drums which is cool.

edit: james wrote all the lyrics to NEM...because he missed his wife and kids. Lars helped write the music...

[LarsAgi007]

i wunna learn how to make that sound real bad its not a pick scrape and i doubt its a regular slide maybe a weird setting on his amp any ideas...?

Although a drummer I do play guitar in my spare time, Hence the Gibson Epiphone next to me!

I can create a similar sound using a normal guitar slide...

If I but the guitar to Rhythm and remove all distortion, resulting in a clean sound and put the slide accross all the strings, strum and slide to fret 6, and continue it will sound really wrong, add distortion, turn down bass on amp, add reverb and do it again :thumb:

[Endless Obsession]

Although a drummer I do play guitar in my spare time, Hence the Gibson Epiphone next to me!

I can create a similar sound using a normal guitar slide...

If I but the guitar to Rhythm and remove all distortion, resulting in a clean sound and put the slide accross all the strings, strum and slide to fret 6, and continue it will sound really wrong, add distortion, turn down bass on amp, add reverb and do it again :thumb:

A Gibson and Epiphone are two different things.

[madlyinangerwithu]

Whats the best way to learn how to play bass? i have a bass book but its not helping much? what can i do to make myself better?

[munky_magik]

Whats the best way to learn how to play bass? i have a bass book but its not helping much? what can i do to make myself better?
Practice.

[madlyinangerwithu]

ive been practicing for a year and a half...i need help with transitions from one string to another. are there any good sites that can help?

[Deth]

Sorry for the crappy response, but practice, practice and then practice some more. We can help with specific things, but stuff like that must be done over and over again.

[madlyinangerwithu]

yeah i understand its just frustrating...its something ive always wanted to do...be in a band i even bought this bass...its a squire but still its something to learn on...got a crate amp tho...

[Deth]

Are you any good? Can you play any 'Tallica songs?

[Happy]

When going from one string to another try to get the stroke in the direction of the string. So if the string you're going onto is below the one you're playing then move downwards in a downstroke. If it's above move upwards in an upstroke. Really lame advice I know, but it works.

[munky_magik]

When going from one string to another try to get the stroke in the direction of the string. So if the string you're going onto is below the one you're playing then move downwards in a downstroke. If it's above move upwards in an upstroke. Really lame advice I know, but it works.
Don't do that. Or if you're going to do it practice the oppostie as well otherwise you'll just pigeonhole yourself in terms of what techniques you can do.

[madlyinangerwithu]

i can play my friend of misery, motorbreath, for whom the bell tolls, enter sandman, and part of harvester of sorrow. I have a metallica tabs book that goes up to load so i just try to learn songs

[madlyinangerwithu]

im not good with notes so i just try to play them basically fast, or as fast as i can...i need to learn notes. btw.. whats hammer is that like a slap?

edit: i can play the songs only when im looking at the tabs not besides misery because its one riff long...

[munky_magik]

Learn (http://www.cyberfret.com/techniques/index.php)

[madlyinangerwithu]

wow thats a good site thanks munky_magik, is there an area for just bass? but a lot of this will help.

edit: I found the bass part nm. thanks again that will help me a lot.

[munky_magik]

Behold: the wonders of Google (http://www.cyberfretbass.com/)

[RustedPieces]

I just realized that there isn't really any hard Metallica riffs to play.

[Endless Obsession]

I just realized that there isn't really any hard Metallica riffs to play.

True. The two hardest IMO are Damage Inc. and Dyers Eve, but i can play both.

[RustedPieces]

True. The two hardest IMO are Damage Inc. and Dyers Eve, but i can play both.
Yeah Dyers eve is kind of tough, but it's not that hard.

[AIC/EAZY-E]

What is your point? Some people like saint anger more than other albums. Not everyone likes every same kind of song and music. Some people like good charlotte more than metallica. So what? It's their own musical preference really. I mean you can find on the street many people that would prefer black album over the first 4 albums. Not everyone likes the raw thrashy type. I dont think there is a right answer to which songs, albums, bands, etc. are best. :thumb:

And I agree with madlyinangerwithu, enter sandman is a great song. It doesn't really matter if it's not as thrashy, or if it's more popular, etc.

My point was it wasnt the best 1000 songs, just a popularity contest. :angry:

[willis2441]

I just realized that there isn't really any hard Metallica riffs to play.
yea,try playin the solos,but like the rythim is really easy

[greenantgods]

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not (i just went straight to the last page to post) But I don't like much of Metallica...there old stuff is great...but in my opinion with the death of cliff metallica lost there soul (as quoted by lars ulrich) but anyways...no cliff=no good

[Chu]

Thanks for that.

:rolleyes:

[Steve DeBerg]

I don't know if this has been mentioned or not (i just went straight to the last page to post) But I don't like much of Metallica...there old stuff is great...but in my opinion with the death of cliff metallica lost there soul (as quoted by lars ulrich) but anyways...no cliff=no good

I'd just like to say that And justice for all came after Burton died. Thought I'd throw that out there.

[PepsiMetal]

My point was it wasnt the best 1000 songs, just a popularity contest. :angry:

Right, but really every person will tell you different 1000 best songs. Popularity contest still means that people like that song more than the other.

[clay063]

Whats up yall first time here this i a little of the subject but
check it out i got a little problem that may be someone can help me with. i ve been playing for almost a year now (mostly metallica, tool, system of a down, etc.) now the question that my be a metallicat may be able to point me in the roght direction i m going camping yeh i said it camping with my family and of course since i go no where with out my guitar i know some little s>>t is going to ask me to play some camping songs (most of them are not into my music) so besides throwing my guitar at them can you suggest any "campin songs" i can play. nothing to cheesy

thanx

[madlyinangerwithu]

because one person said metallica was sellouts now no one likes them...black album was great load and reload were good and st anger was pretty **** good. nobody wants to admit that metallica is a great band because its "cool" to hate them. nobody has a good reason for not liking them. someone said their sound changed and thats why they dont like them anymore but honestly has any of their albums ever sounded the same?...cliff was a great member of metallica, god rest his soul but his death did not stop them from bringing out great albums. ill be the first one to admit their old s*** was the best but people dont see the emotion power of their new stuff. All i got to say is if i hear anymore sellout talk im gonna get mad. people need to grow the F*ck up honestly.

[m3tallica]

couldnt have said it better myself :)

[madlyinangerwithu]

i knew i wasnt alone...

edit: its not the fact that they dont like metallica its the reasons they dont like metallica that piss me off. most of them never even heard of metallica until the whole napster thing and they base their whole opinion on what others said...stupid

[m3tallica]

i know!! talk about following the crowd...so much for thinking for themselves.

[Kage]

because one person said metallica was sellouts now no one likes them...black album was great load and reload were good and st anger was pretty **** good. nobody wants to admit that metallica is a great band because its "cool" to hate them. nobody has a good reason for not liking them. someone said their sound changed and thats why they dont like them anymore but honestly has any of their albums ever sounded the same?...cliff was a great member of metallica, god rest his soul but his death did not stop them from bringing out great albums. ill be the first one to admit their old s*** was the best but people dont see the emotion power of their new stuff. All i got to say is if i hear anymore sellout talk im gonna get mad. people need to grow the F*ck up honestly.
What the hell are you talking about? You know how many Metallica fanboys there are? Some of us don't like their music, that's it. They're hugely overrated and I think their music just sucks.

[Endless Obsession]

What the hell are you talking about? You know how many Metallica fanboys there are? Some of us don't like their music, that's it. They're hugely overrated and I think their music just sucks.

You are an idiot. Dont just come into an Official thread and talk badly about the band without justifying what you are saying. Its not rightto go into a thread say "this bands music sucks" then leave.

Why?

[m3tallica]

^^ i know, i dont get it..whats the point coming in here if ya dont like the band...to cause fights? what the hell.

[Endless Obsession]

^^ i know, i dont get it..whats the point coming in here if ya dont like the band...to cause fights? what the hell.

They can come here, as long as they have a good well-stated reason as to why they dont like their music. But to come into a thread and say "they suck" and leave, its just like Why?

[madlyinangerwithu]

Kage just proved me right...

edit: as i stated also i dont care if u dont like metallica as long as u dont use everyone else's stupid reasons that they saw on tv...metallica was and is still underrated...all they get is crap from everyone...they deserve everything they have and more...

[m3tallica]

yeah fair play they have there own opinions but yeah.....pppssshhh

[Endless Obsession]

Kage just proved me right...

edit: as i stated also i dont care if u dont like metallica as long as u dont use everyone else's stupid reasons that they saw on tv...metallica was and is still underrated...all they get is crap from everyone...they deserve everything they have and more...

You have good ideas, but in the future please use proper punctuation. Im sorry if i seem like a douschebag its just really unapealing to read something that isnt punctuated.

[madlyinangerwithu]

He hasn't been active since you guys started replying...and, to be quite honest with you, you are wrong in places.




No-one likes them? That's news to me. Metallica still headline some of the biggest festivals worldwide, and their albums sell millions on release. They're huge, basically...saying no-one likes them is completely incorrect....as for having good reasons for not liking them, what would you count as a good reason? People might not like Hetfield's voice, thrash metal in general (their older stuff), Kirk Hammett's soloing style...I've seen those reasons given for why people don't like Metallica, and I fail to see why any of them are invalid.

I didnt mean no one likes them I just meant they lost a lot of their original fans. Yes they are still popular. But most of the people who hate them hate them because they heard someone say it on MTV or something. Yes people don't like their newer stuff or even their older stuff but I think that the whole sellout thing has gotten old. Or they hate them because they went "mainstream" which I dont think is right. I think the only reason they went mainstream was because they are good, doesnt make them sellouts. If you dont like their music fine im cool with that, its just whenever someone finds out I like them they give me this ten minute talk that Ive heard a thousand times, like they've been listening to them for along time which half of them ever really heard them. I think its stupid people have to follow the "in" crowd...

Edit: Sorry Blythe...

[munky_magik]

^^ i know, i dont get it..whats the point coming in here if ya dont like the band...to cause fights? what the hell.
This thread was not created to kiss the band's ***. It was created to stop the forums being overun by Metallica threads. This thread serves as an all purpose Metallica discussion thread, which includes negative discussion as well.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Back to topic......Metallica rock :)

[madlyinangerwithu]

Agreed

[m3tallica]

aye

[lilmetallica]

how do you get a real long user title thingy any one know...

[JonG]

I <3 Orion. My fav instrumental out of the 4 albums.

Learning to play it, tis fun.

[Endless Obsession]

how do you get a real long user title thingy any one know...

Yes i know.

[lilmetallica]

yea i notticed you did how? *makes puppy dog face*

[Endless Obsession]

yea i notticed you did how? *makes puppy dog face*

If i told you i would get banned, dont reply back because this is enough spam already.

[lilmetallica]

Sooooo...MoP or FWTBT? for me its ummm puppetz probably close though real close...

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Fave instrumental = The Call of Ktulu

[Huber]

Mine is To Live Is To Die. Orion and The Call of Ktulu are tied for second though. I couldn't choose between the two.

[willis2441]

my favorite instrumental is orion,that song kicks

[RustedPieces]

Orion is the best instrumental I've ever heard by any band.

[JACKROXYOU]

it is nice instrumental

wow its been awhile (been in scotland)

[Chu]

What the hell are you talking about? You know how many Metallica fanboys there are? Some of us don't like their music, that's it. They're hugely overrated and I think their music just sucks.
Awesome :thumb:
Unstoppable, even.

Orion is their best song, in my opinion.

[PepsiMetal]

What the hell are you talking about? You know how many Metallica fanboys there are? Some of us don't like their music, that's it. They're hugely overrated and I think their music just sucks.

No, they're not overrated. They have succeeded many things that many metal bands haven't. They have one of the largest fan bases of metal bands, they have sold huge amounts of records compared to other metal bands, some of their albums are rated at top charts at one of the best metal albums, same with some of their songs, etc...

Every band has fanboys. The reason metallica has more than most bands is because they are good. Fanboys wouldn't be as obessed with them if their music sucked.

I mean if Maiden sold 20 million copies in one album, whether it is good or not, they would be called soldouts, pop, crap, etc... People just can't stand seeing a metal band succeed into music industry and have a large fan base.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I mean if Maiden sold 20 million copies in one album, whether it is good or not, they would be called soldouts, pop, crap, etc... People just can't stand seeing a metal band succeed into music industry and have a large fan base.
People call them sellouts because they changed to a more commercial style of metal, not purely because they sold lots of albums.

[ThrashMaster27]

No, they're not overrated. They have succeeded many things that many metal bands haven't. They have one of the largest fan bases of metal bands, they have sold huge amounts of records compared to other metal bands, some of their albums are rated at top charts at one of the best metal albums, same with some of their songs, etc...

Every band has fanboys. The reason metallica has more than most bands is because they are good. Fanboys wouldn't be as obessed with them if their music sucked.

I mean if Maiden sold 20 million copies in one album, whether it is good or not, they would be called soldouts, pop, crap, etc... People just can't stand seeing a metal band succeed into music industry and have a large fan base.

Music is subjective. I'm sure Britney Spears has her legions of fans that go around thinking she's the most amazing person alive. Aswell as Good Charlotte, Blink 182 etc etc. I'm guessing you don't think that? Same goes for Metallica. How many albums have they sold? I forget the total it says at the start of SKOM. I think Coroner should have sold millions of albums, cause they're amazing, but sadly they aren't well enough known.

Metallica fans can say what they want. The Black Album WAS a drastic change from ...And Justice For All, which got them more fans. Fanboys are fine, but you have to be able to deal with negative critisism without resorting to petty insults. I think Kirk Hammett sucked on Load and Re-Load, but that's my opinion. Perhaps what's why they don't let him solo anymore, I don't know.

You say it like Maiden don't sell a lot of album. Most of their albums go near the top of the charts on release. They never drastically altered their style, so I doubt you'd get anyone calling them sell outs. Well, perhaps the metal purists cause Bruce cut his hair, but that's just daft.

[PepsiMetal]

No, selling out means changing music style to something else for the main purpose of earning more money. There are so many other different reasons a band can change. Bands can change because they're tired of their old music and want to move on to something new. Metallica has sold about 90 million albums I believe. Iron Maiden has also sold 50 million + (That's the best I could find) which is still not as close to metallica considering maiden has made more albums than metallica. I like many other bands, but still do not claim them to be nowhere as best bands. The only bands that I think are one of the best are metallica, maiden, and black sabbath. Yes, it's my opinion just like everyone else's. Nothing special. Just trying to say that what metallica has done is not easy to accomplish and many metal bands couldn't do it even if they tried. Excluding the top 2 of course.

[ThrashMaster27]

Thrash (Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, And Justice For All)
Metal (Metallica)
Hard Rock (Load, Re-Load)
Nu-Metal (St. Anger)

The changes haven't really been favourable in my opinion, but it has gathered them a lot more fans. I don't say they sold out. If they wanna change their music it's up to them. My key point is not everyone has to like it, plus you're obviously gonna get people saying they sold out when James says things like "We'll never make a music video".

Fine, he was young and stuff and I don't really care that they made countless music videos after he said it. Sadly there will be many Metallihaters aswell as many, many fanboys. Kinda balances itself out in an odd kind of way.

[Chu]

plus you're obviously gonna get people saying they sold out when James says things like "We'll never make a music video".
Hah, that's the main reason I question their change.
I'd like to see what other people think about it too.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Thrash (Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, And Justice For All)
Metal (Metallica)
Hard Rock (Load, Re-Load)
Nu-Metal (St. Anger)

The changes haven't really been favourable in my opinion, but it has gathered them a lot more fans. I don't say they sold out. If they wanna change their music it's up to them. My key point is not everyone has to like it, plus you're obviously gonna get people saying they sold out when James says things like "We'll never make a music video".

Fine, he was young and stuff and I don't really care that they made countless music videos after he said it. Sadly there will be many Metallihaters aswell as many, many fanboys. Kinda balances itself out in an odd kind of way.

Like the balance between the jedi and the sith.........

[LarsAgi007]

Yeah Dyers eve is kind of tough, but it's not that hard.

As a drummer, I can play the intro to Dyers eve on guitar, I think the ''And Justice for all'' intro was pretty tricky, not difficult, it was just a pain in the *** to get around!
Mama said took be a week or so also

For all Metallica fans! The link below is a lecture about selling out!! I think its worth reading, It brought tears to my eyes!!!
Link 1 (http://www.allmetallica.com/columns.php?id=42)
This is probably going to be incredibly sexist-sounding, but I still am surprised when I come across a girl, or a woman, who is into heavy metal music. And I don't just mean those girls who know of Metallica's post-1991 music, with the odd Megadeth song - I mean girls who know their metal, from No Life 'til Leather to Napalm Death, from Master of Puppets to Mayhem's Pure ****ing Armageddon.

I'll admit, it's bad - when my girlfriend showed me her extensive Metallica and Megadeth collection, when she told me she was into Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath, I was surprised (pleasantly, of course). Growing up in the Persian Gulf, heavy metal is still very much a sub-culture, and people were surprised that me, with my clean-cut, professional image, listened to metal from Load to Emperor. Hell, I get that in the United States, too. My fellow columnist Adam has already spoken on metal stereotypes, so let me steal that idea and run with it.

Women and metal, heaven and hell?


This is probably going to be incredibly sexist-sounding, but I still am surprised when I come across a girl, or a woman, who is into heavy metal music. And I don't just mean those girls who know of Metallica's post-1991 music, with the odd Megadeth song - I mean girls who know their metal, from No Life 'til Leather to Napalm Death, from Master of Puppets to Mayhem's Pure ****ing Armageddon.

I'll admit, it's bad - when my girlfriend showed me her extensive Metallica and Megadeth collection, when she told me she was into Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath, I was surprised (pleasantly, of course). Growing up in the Persian Gulf, heavy metal is still very much a sub-culture, and people were surprised that me, with my clean-cut, professional image, listened to metal from Load to Emperor. Hell, I get that in the United States, too. My fellow columnist Adam has already spoken on metal stereotypes, so let me steal that idea and run with it.

Women and metal, heaven and hell?

Rock music, and in particular heavy metal, has always been thought of as a man's domain. Maybe it's all the testosterone, the aggression, that has made a female metalhead a rare commodity. It's not easy to imagine a girl mixing it up in the pit when Slayer take the stage and blast "Angel of Death". If you caught the VH1 special "When Metallica Ruled The World", you'd have noted Lars Ulrich mentioning that they started to see more girls at their concerts after the Black Album came out, than before. Maybe this makes sense, a song like "Nothing Else Matters" is a tad more accessible than, say, "No Remorse". And in the mindset of girls being into the emotional, lovey, ballady stuff, it's very easy to comprehend Metallica being a band with a rising female audience if they (the band) show a softer, gentler side.

[VoodooChild24]

You just want to hate Metallica because of how they succeeded and your favorite band didn't make it!! Metallica has prepared the way for a lot of successful bands right now that if not for Metallica, they won't have inspiration and desire.

Many have tried to copy their music and figure out their fomula for success, but none has come even close.

Metallica is the best band of the new era, next to ACDC, Iron Maiden and Led Zep,
Wake up Metallica Haters and smell the coffee! Thius band will KICK YOUR ***!!!

Let me tell you something about sell-out. In life, there is evolution - and that is a normal process. It's a universal truth that something evolves from here to there. Even you haters evolve in the course of you mealsy lives, from your wants, likes, needs, desire, etc...

Metallica evolved and you can't handle it!! They create a different, more melodic music, make videos and you call them a sell out. Learn to adapt to the current issue and sorroundings so you will be able to survive. Making a video is not being a sell-out. So what if James contradicted himself. But that's the nature of the beast and business. What is important is they still make good music and still KICKS YOUR ***!!!!!

Metallica Rules!!

[Deth]

Wow, that was quite an outburst. We can handle it though, what with this being the Metallica thread and all.

[munky_magik]

You just want to hate Metallica because of how they succeeded and your favorite band didn't make it!! Metallica has prepared the way for a lot of successful bands right now that if not for Metallica, they won't have inspiration and desire.

Many have tried to copy their music and figure out their fomula for success, but none has come even close.

Metallica is the best band of the new era, next to ACDC, Iron Maiden and Led Zep,
Wake up Metallica Haters and smell the coffee! Thius band will KICK YOUR ***!!!

Let me tell you something about sell-out. In life, there is evolution - and that is a normal process. It's a universal truth that something evolves from here to there. Even you haters evolve in the course of you mealsy lives, from your wants, likes, needs, desire, etc...

Metallica evolved and you can't handle it!! They create a different, more melodic music, make videos and you call them a sell out. Learn to adapt to the current issue and sorroundings so you will be able to survive. Making a video is not being a sell-out. So what if James contradicted himself. But that's the nature of the beast and business. What is important is they still make good music and still KICKS YOUR ***!!!!!

Metallica Rules!!



Most important part of this post:

/fanboy

[VoodooChild24]

Most important part of this post:

/fanboy


Most important part of this post......Your a tool!

[Endless Obsession]

Fave instrumental = The Call of Ktulu

That is tied with Orion and To Live is to die. I really cant make a decision, they are all such incredivle songs.

[Deth]

Most important part of this post......Your a tool!
Actually, Munky is one of the most respected and productive members on these boards. Learn to love him.

[munky_magik]

Most important part of this post......Your* a tool!
Refl...*you're.

But seriously...you're making broad, sweeping generlisations about why people dislike Metallica. You say people that jump on the "It's cool to hate bandwagon" are bad but I'd say you're just as bad for saying that that's the reason that most people hate 'Tallica.
Alot of people grew up with early Metallica - Early Metallica being no radio play, videos, etc... - so when Metallica turn around a make a video to those fans the band sold out.
Admitedly, yeah. Alot of people dislike Metallica because they don't like the direction that they changed musically. But also alot of people hate them becuase they think that the music they've made, from beginning to present, is utter shite.

[podbassist]

I <3 Orion. My fav instrumental out of the 4 albums.

Learning to play it, tis fun.

It's fun to learn on both bass and guitar.

[Endless Obsession]

It's fun to learn on both bass and guitar.

The bass part during the slow part is amazing. One of my favorite performances by Cliff.

[RustedPieces]

James didn't even know any music theory when he wrote Orion and it's amazing.

[Joe]

You just want to hate Metallica because of how they succeeded and your favorite band didn't make it!! Metallica has prepared the way for a lot of successful bands right now that if not for Metallica, they won't have inspiration and desire.

Many have tried to copy their music and figure out their fomula for success, but none has come even close.

Metallica is the best band of the new era, next to ACDC, Iron Maiden and Led Zep,
Wake up Metallica Haters and smell the coffee! Thius band will KICK YOUR ***!!!

Let me tell you something about sell-out. In life, there is evolution - and that is a normal process. It's a universal truth that something evolves from here to there. Even you haters evolve in the course of you mealsy lives, from your wants, likes, needs, desire, etc...

Metallica evolved and you can't handle it!! They create a different, more melodic music, make videos and you call them a sell out. Learn to adapt to the current issue and sorroundings so you will be able to survive. Making a video is not being a sell-out. So what if James contradicted himself. But that's the nature of the beast and business. What is important is they still make good music and still KICKS YOUR ***!!!!!

Metallica Rules!!

Can you say fanboy?

The only thing they did that was selling out was making videos and making St. Anger sololess. Just because they did those things doesn't mean that as a whole they are sellouts.

[Joe]

James didn't even know any music theory when he wrote Orion and it's amazing.

He knew some, but learned a lot from cliff

[Carlos Santana]

and if am wrong, im pretty sure Cliff wrote all of Orion (guitar and bass)

[ThrashMaster27]

and if am wrong, im pretty sure Cliff wrote all of Orion (guitar and bass)

I don't think so. The Master of Puppets inlay credits both James and Cliff with the writing process. The only other information it says is...

2nd Guitar Solo - Hetfield
4th Solo/Bass - Burton

[Darkness]

Anybody have Dream Theater doing Battery...


Sorry I keep bugging you guys for these but I really want this concert...

[Endless Obsession]

Anybody have Dream Theater doing Battery...


Sorry I keep bugging you guys for these but I really want this concert...

I have all of them, but im not home until Monday. If you still dont have it by then just post and i will get it to you.


what solo the first or second bass solo and what r the tabs for it mx is wrong i think, o **** i think i just double posted sorry.

I might be able to help you if you could understand your post.

[Endless Obsession]

what are the tabs for the bass solo in orion near the end. mx dosent even have it is says bass riff 1 2 3 n so on.

OO.. Idk i play guitar. I would just go on google and type in "orion bass tab". If not then i dont know what to tell you.

[Thor]

metallica PWNS
Please, no 1337 sp33k. You will get flamed for using it.

...on another note, I'm also trying to learn Orion on bass right now too. It's kicking my *** because I can never concentrate.

[Endless Obsession]

Please, no 1337 sp33k. You will get flamed for using it.

...on another note, I'm also trying to learn Orion on bass right now too. It's kicking my *** because I can never concentrate.

O cmon hes aloud to say pwn everyone does.

I never played bass before (guitar) and i just tried to learn some lines. I learned the orion one right after the slow part. Then i tried learning Classical thump. Its hard. HARd.

[Huber]

Yeah, saying something pwns is no big deal. I garauntee you it will be popular to say in actual speech in a few years. GO to a cyber cafe filled with the little kids playing Counter-Strike, they all say "Head Shot! Pwned!" and that lingo is the future. Going as far as to put as many numbers as possible into your words is stupid though. That's just a cry for approval.

[Thor]

O cmon hes aloud to say pwn everyone does.

I never played bass before (guitar) and i just tried to learn some lines. I learned the orion one right after the slow part. Then i tried learning Classical thump. Its hard. HARd.
Yeah, bass isn't as easy as everyone thinks it is.

Has anyone ever recorded any covers of Metallica songs? If so you should post them on here because I would like to listen to them. :thumb:

[Huber]

Yeah, bass isn't as easy as everyone thinks it is.

Has anyone ever recorded any covers of Metallica songs? If so you should post them on here because I would like to listen to them. :thumb:

I can record some drums for some songs if you guys want, and then you can record your guitar/bass part over it if you want. That'd be pretty fun.

Caution: It will be poor sound quality

[Endless Obsession]

I can record some drums for some songs if you guys want, and then you can record your guitar/bass part over it if you want. That'd be pretty fun.

Caution: It will be poor sound quality

Do it. Then i can record the rhythm part. Someone can record the bass. Then some1 the solo. Then some1 the vocals. And we will have our own little Metallica tribute song. I think MXican had this idea a while back, and maybe have each Official thread do one and have people vote on the best. It would be fun wouldnt it.

[Huber]

Do it. Then i can record the rhythm part. Someone can record the bass. Then some1 the solo. Then some1 the vocals. And we will have our own little Metallica tribute song. I think MXican had this idea a while back, and maybe have each Official thread do one and have people vote on the best. It would be fun wouldnt it.

The Tool thread has made backing tracks for eachother for a ton of songs, that's where I got the idea.

Pick a song, something you know everyone else can play cause it's pretty easy.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Yeah, saying something pwns is no big deal. I garauntee you it will be popular to say in actual speech in a few years. GO to a cyber cafe filled with the little kids playing Counter-Strike, they all say "Head Shot! Pwned!" and that lingo is the future. Going as far as to put as many numbers as possible into your words is stupid though. That's just a cry for approval.
I know I sound dumb, but why is 'owned' sometimes spelt with a 'p'? Enlighten me please.

[Thor]

Well I will be happy to record the bass for you guys. Pick any old Metallica songs, and I'll be happy to lay down a fat bass line for you guys. Maybe we should start on something easier like Seek and Destroy. After that we can work ourselves up to something more difficult.

[RustedPieces]

Yeah do Seek & Destroy, or Four Horsemen. Jump In The Fire would be cool too.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

This may be a bitch of a request, but could you do Battery? That bastad has had me going for quite a while.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Do the four horsemen :thumb:

[Huber]

Going once, going twice?

[kill_em_all]

can anybody recommend any easy metallica guitar solos. im stuck in a rut, i cant find a heavy/easy metallica song to do.i need help (not st anger,drummer doesnt have double kick)

[hotguitarchick]

can anybody recommend any easy metallica guitar solos. im stuck in a rut, i cant find a heavy/easy metallica song to do.i need help (not st anger,drummer doesnt have double kick)

The solo from Nothing Else Matters is really easy but you probably don't want to play that.

[LarsAgi007]

can anybody recommend any easy metallica guitar solos. im stuck in a rut, i cant find a heavy/easy metallica song to do.i need help (not st anger,drummer doesnt have double kick)

Alot of Kirk Style solos are pretty solid lol, Try the first solo from Master of Puppets, thats pretty simple, the rest are not simple though lol.... And you say no solos from S.t Anger...
The good news is S.t Anger has no solos, also, even if your drummer doesn't have double bass you can still modify the bass drum beats slightly instead of

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The solo from Nothing Else Matters is really easy but you probably don't want to play that.

I am not one to argue but Its not really easy, and if I am correct in thinking your a girl, I would assume your taking the.... No offense but girls just don't seem to be able to handle anything musically except the vocals...

Look at the drummer from the whitestripes
Avril Lavignes Guitaring
That female bassist from ozzfest...

The list goes on...

[Chu]

I can do vocals for anything off Kill 'em All, and possibly Ride The Lightning (Don't ask me to even try Fade To Black though).
/sexy voice ;)

[LarsAgi007]

I can do vocals for anything off Kill 'em All, and possibly Ride The Lightning (Don't ask me to even try Fade To Black though).
/sexy voice ;)

Loves nothing more than playing seek and destroy on drums with band to warm up :D

[Chu]

Sick, learn Motorbreath and we can do a sick cover =D

[hotguitarchick]

Alot of Kirk Style solos are pretty solid lol, Try the first solo from Master of Puppets, thats pretty simple, the rest are not simple though lol.... And you say no solos from S.t Anger...
The good news is S.t Anger has no solos, also, even if your drummer doesn't have double bass you can still modify the bass drum beats slightly instead of

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The solo from Nothing Else Matters is really easy but you probably don't want to play that.

I am not one to argue but Its not really easy, and if I am correct in thinking your a girl, I would assume your taking the.... No offense but girls just don't seem to be able to handle anything musically except the vocals...

Look at the drummer from the whitestripes
Avril Lavignes Guitaring
That female bassist from ozzfest...

The list goes on...

girls are just as good at guys at anything musical as well as vocals. there's nothing to say we aren't. guys are so **** sexist :angry:

[Skit]

The girl on the SKOM bassist auditions ruled :thumb:

[Iceman-rocker]

girls are just as good at guys at anything musical as well as vocals. there's nothing to say we aren't. guys are so **** sexist :angry:

hey, i know some chicks that are ****ing great at guitar. dont listen to
Sh itheads like him. btw that would be so hott to hear a chick sing ride the lightning. :thumb:

[Deth]

I play bass. We should do two songs with different groups to see whose is best.

[Iceman-rocker]

Yeah, bass isn't as easy as everyone thinks it is.

Has anyone ever recorded any covers of Metallica songs? If so you should post them on here because I would like to listen to them. :thumb:

www.artistlabel.com/bands/177

listen to the ride the lightning, and to live is to die. The other stuff is crap we just got bored and recorded.

btw, the link wont work, your gonna have to type it into the url box urself.

[mr black]

Hey that cover of 'to live is to die' is very good. The drums, dont sound quite...real, but mabye i just have a lack of faith. Anyway :thumb:

Also another easy song to play with no solo's is 'For whom the bell tolls'

[Iceman-rocker]

The girl on the SKOM bassist auditions ruled :thumb:
Hell yea. :lol:

[fenderbender89]

The girl on the SKOM bassist auditions ruled :thumb:


yeah she played seek and destroyed pretty good.
but Metallica would never pick a girl to be there new bass player even if she was the best out of all of them.

So they picked rob.
That crazy guy is going to make a great new album for metallica. Because remember Bob Rock did all the bass lines for St. Anger.
So this is going to be robs full new album with metallica with his own bass lines mabye even bass solos for songs. If he did that the CD would rule. :thumb:

[Endless Obsession]

It should start like this:

Drummer Makes Track
Bassist Uses Track and Records Bass part
Rhythm Guitarist uses that track and plays James' part
Lead guitarist uses the newest track and adds Kirk's part
Vocalist Sings over the track

I think that we should do seek and destroy. Shotgun on Rhythm Guitar. If anyone can play the solos, then post it. Also if you can do drums, bass, or vocals post.

So i guess so far its:

Drums: Sliptallica
Bass: Metal_Head 617
Rhythm Guitar: R. Blythe :D
Lead Guitar:
Vocals:

Go!

[munky_magik]

In theory everyone should be able to record their parts separately, just as long as they all make sure that they're all playing at the same tempo.

[Huber]

I can do drums. My play time is limited though, so if I start "flaking" someone else can take over.

[Endless Obsession]

In theory everyone should be able to record their parts separately, just as long as they all make sure that they're all playing at the same tempo.

That would give everyone a chance to participate, but it would be a lot harder, cause if you got off by a little bit, it ruinst he whole thing.

[Thor]

It should start like this:

Drummer Makes Track
Bassist Uses Track and Records Bass part
Rhythm Guitarist uses that track and plays James' part
Lead guitarist uses the newest track and adds Kirk's part
Vocalist Sings over the track

I think that we should do seek and destroy. Shotgun on Rhythm Guitar. If anyone can play the solos, then post it. Also if you can do drums, bass, or vocals post.

So i guess so far its:

Drums:
Bass:
Rhythm Guitar: R. Blythe :D
Lead Guitar:
Vocals:

Go!
Get me for bass, OK?

I just finished Orion today on bass, I'm so proud of myself. :thumb:

[LarsAgi007]

girls are just as good at guys at anything musical as well as vocals. there's nothing to say we aren't. guys are so **** sexist :angry:

I am not saying that girls are not as good as guys, I am saying girls are not given the same opertunities as men, they are never taken seriously!
I would love to know why there are limited women in the R&M scene, something that I will always want to see is more women rocking out!....

By the way, Do you think your could do me a little demo of some of your guitaring??? I dont think I have ever heard a girl play Metallica, Would be nice to here it... I will play it to my female guitarist, her ambition is to beat all male guitarists so when she finds out another girl is better than her she will freak :lol:

[Huber]

That would give everyone a chance to participate, but it would be a lot harder, cause if you got off by a little bit, it ruinst he whole thing.

Yeah, it's safer doing drums first, but it could work without doing something first. It'd just be harder, but at the same time faster.

[spenser93]

Get me for bass, OK?

I just finished Orion today on bass, I'm so proud of myself. :thumb:

what r those **** tabs on bas for orion the two solos.

[Thor]

Ok, so now this is who is doing Seek and Destroy. Correct me if I am wrong.

Bass - Metal_Head_617
Guitar - R. Blythe
Drums - Sliptallica

Who is doing vocals?

[whatduffhuck7]

i dont know i i could play seek and destroys solo, never tried. there is probably someone who is more qualified than me, but if you need someone i could do lead. somebody else should do it though. only been playing for about 3 1/2- 4 years

[JonG]

I'm downloading Cliff Em All right now. Anybody like? My friend requested it to me.

[JACKROXYOU]

I'm downloading Cliff Em All right now. Anybody like? My friend requested it to me.

buy it you punk

[Chu]

I could do vocals!
And I would the best Rhythm guitarist :naughty:

[NoHero9]

cliff em all was ok, some of the songs have terrible production, of course, like lights being shi'tty, people being in the way, being too far back, but all in all, ok stuff. I give it two perimian nubs in the up position!

[NoHero9]

dammit, if i had a microphone, I could play all kinds of kirk solos, Seek and destroy is one of the first metallica solos i learned so i could easily do it, but im too poor for computer equipment :mad:

[Alexpc007]

lol im new to this topic so shall i read all the 900 pages? :D

[NoHero9]

yes, every word, and dont return to this page until you are through. I'm yankin' ya, I missed about 889 of the pages.

[spenser93]

Ok, so now this is who is doing Seek and Destroy. Correct me if I am wrong.

Bass - Metal_Head_617
Guitar - R. Blythe
Drums - Sliptallica

Who is doing vocals?

i could do bass for seek n destroy but i have no way of getting it on my comp and my amp n guitar suck and i dont have a wah so it woint sound as good

i could also do leper messiah i no almost that whole song except the solo and pre solo interlude

[metalcritter666]

yes, every word, and dont return to this page until you are through. I'm yankin' ya, I missed about 889 of the pages.
Nah, that would take hours. It gets repetitive after a while anyway.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Does anybody remember the rumour about James dying on Christmas Day? A link was put up in the News section of the official site denying this rumour.

[Joe]

Ok, so now this is who is doing Seek and Destroy. Correct me if I am wrong.

Bass - Metal_Head_617
Guitar - R. Blythe
Drums - Sliptallica

Who is doing vocals?

I'll help on stuff, i can't sing

[Thor]

i could do bass for seek n destroy but i have no way of getting it on my comp and my amp n guitar suck and i dont have a wah so it woint sound as good

i could also do leper messiah i no almost that whole song except the solo and pre solo interlude
I'm doing bass, can't you read?

I could do vocals!
And I would the best Rhythm guitarist :naughty:
Well in that case we have our final lineup!

Bass - Metal_Head_617
Lead Guitars - R. Blythe
Drums - Sliptallica
Rhythm Guitars/ Vocals - Chu

[Hard_Rocker_Revived]

Any news on a new Metallica album?

[Thor]

Any news on a new Metallica album?
They are taking a vacation and then are going back into the studio to record.

3,000th post!

[Hard_Rocker_Revived]

They are taking a vacation and then are going back into the studio to record.

3,000th post!

Cool thanks. It's just, back in 2004, there was a lot of talk about Metallica returning to studio in January 2005, but now that months have passed since then, and I was wondering what the word on the street was in recent times.

[Chu]

I was joking about the rhythm guitarist by the way, the only song I ever bothered to learn by Metallica was Orion, oh sexy Rhythm it is.

[Thor]

I was joking about the rhythm guitarist by the way, the only song I ever bothered to learn by Metallica was Orion, oh sexy Rhythm it is.
Well can you still do vocals for us? R. Blythe can probably just do both guitars.

[Whale and Wasp]

lol im new to this topic so shall i read all the 900 pages? :D
believe me, there are a lot more important things to do in life

[Chu]

Well can you still do vocals for us? R. Blythe can probably just do both guitars.
I dunno, if you want I could give it a shot.

[RustedPieces]

I dunno, if you want I could give it a shot.
So who's doing what? Can we see a list of people so everything is organized?

[FlyingPaul_83]

Quoted from metal head 617

Well in that case we have our final lineup!

Bass - Metal_Head_617
Lead Guitars - R. Blythe
Drums - Sliptallica
Rhythm Guitars/ Vocals - Chu

:thumb:

[Thor]

Well I don't think that Chu is going to do guitars anymore, but I think that R.Blythe is going to do both rhythm and lead.

[JonG]

Out of the first four albums, what is everybodys favorite opener?

Hit The Lights, Fight Fire With Fire, Battery, Blackened?

I'm stuck between Battery and Fight Fire With Fire.

[Thor]

Out of the first four albums, what is everybodys favorite opener?

Hit The Lights, Fight Fire With Fire, Battery, Blackened, or Enter Sandman?

I'm stuck between Battery and Fight Fire With Fire.
Those are five albums, buddy.

But out of those, I think that Battery comes out on top.

[RiceMonster]

Battery for me too.

[Cunha]

Out of the first four albums, what is everybodys favorite opener?

Hit The Lights, Fight Fire With Fire, Battery, Blackened, or Enter Sandman?

I'm stuck between Battery and Fight Fire With Fire.

Not neceserally a great song, but Hit the Lights had a real big impact on me back in the day. So I'd say that would be my favorite.

[NoHero9]

battery, fo sho. the moron put five. aha, ha.

[JonG]

I wrote four before I realized Enter Sandman didn't stand a chance.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Battery

[Rothmans]

Battery.

[heavy metal kid]

fight fire with fire is my favorite openner, is not as fast as battery but it sonds heavier.

[NoHero9]

alright, I apologize for that moron remark, but thats true, enter sandman can exit my life.

[Joe]

I've learned the intros to all of those openers, and haven't learned anything past it (except enter sandman. i can do everything but the solo (which i haven't tried))

[Joe]

Well can you still do vocals for us? R. Blythe can probably just do both guitars.


i can do rhythm. i don't completely know the S&D solo, but i know all of the rhythm parts

[guitarcreep13]

I don't want to ackwardly change the subject like this but I have a question that I need the answer really fast

What should I buy for Sheet Music?

Master of Puppets & Ride the Lightning
-or-
Master of Puppets & ...And Justice For All
-or-
Ride the Lightning & ...And Justice for All

[PepsiMetal]

Master of Puppets & ...And Justice For All

:thumb:

[FlyingPaul_83]

I don't want to ackwardly change the subject like this but I have a question that I need the answer really fast

What shoutld I buy for Sheet Music?

Master of Puppets & Ride the Lightning
-or-
Master of Puppets & ...And Justice For All
-or-
Ride the Lightning *...And Justice for All


Idsay either RTL and ALFA, or MOP and RTL

either way get RTL sheet music

[heavy metal kid]

What should I buy for Sheet Music?

Ride the Lightning & ...And Justice for All
rtl AND ajfa are the best for music

[fatbandit]

Bah, starting the internet Metallica band up again (not that it got started in the first place...)? And I see I've been ousted from bass? Boo sucks.

Well, if you want to do some and share some duties of it with me metal_head? Not necessarily share duties on one song, that's just silly.

If you're going to do it, I'd suggest have the drummer record at the same tempo as the CD. Sometimes the guitar or bass cue things in songs, not drums, so that could be a problem (such as the intro for Seek and Destroy). Also, one person needs to have all of the tracks, so that they can mix them. A big consideration is what program is being used to record all of the tracks.

[Thor]

Bah, starting the internet Metallica band up again (not that it got started in the first place...)? And I see I've been ousted from bass? Boo sucks.

Well, if you want to do some and share some duties of it with me metal_head? Not necessarily share duties on one song, that's just silly.

If you're going to do it, I'd suggest have the drummer record at the same tempo as the CD. Sometimes the guitar or bass cue things in songs, not drums, so that could be a problem (such as the intro for Seek and Destroy). Also, one person needs to have all of the tracks, so that they can mix them. A big consideration is what program is being used to record all of the tracks.
Form your own Metallica cover band on here. I'm sure there are other people on here who want to do the same. We can have a contest to see who is better.

Sliptallica, when are you going to have those drums ready?

[fatbandit]

I would but I'm lazy. If anyone on here can do drums and guitar and the like, hit me up on MSN (dark____nation@hotmail.com with 4 underscores).

If I can't get people, do you fancy letting me slip into a song somewhere? I get very bored without stuff to do :thumb:

[Thor]

Record Pulling Teeth and post it if you can't get anyone else to record with you.

[RustedPieces]

I would but I'm lazy. If anyone on here can do drums and guitar and the like, hit me up on MSN (dark____nation@hotmail.com with 4 underscores).

If I can't get people, do you fancy letting me slip into a song somewhere? I get very bored without stuff to do :thumb:
I would be able to do rhythm but I'm not really in a situation where I can record a lot.

[Squirrel]

dont get sheet music, just download power tab and save your money

[fatbandit]

Because that would be fun, eh? Its a bass solo, not a Metallica song. Not quite the same degree of accomplishment. And maybe I would if I had enough leads to hook my pedals up to my computer.

Is not being in a situation to record a lot 'not in a situation to record at all'?

[RustedPieces]

Because that would be fun, eh? Its a bass solo, not a Metallica song. Not quite the same degree of accomplishment. And maybe I would if I had enough leads to hook my pedals up to my computer.

Is not being in a situation to record a lot 'not in a situation to record at all'?
No, its like once a month. But once we get into the summer I can probably do more.

[Chu]

What song do you plan on doing first?
I'd love to do vocals, but have never tried a Metallica song, I don't really have very good recording equiptment (Microphone + Computer :/) so it could be hard for me to get a recording.

That said, I'd still love to do Metallica vocals, I don't know what song/s though.
I think I'd like to do something from Kill 'em All, maybe Jump In The Fire.

[Thor]

What song do you plan on doing first?
I'd love to do vocals, but have never tried a Metallica song, I don't really have very good recording equiptment (Microphone + Computer :/) so it could be hard for me to get a recording.

That said, I'd still love to do Metallica vocals, I don't know what song/s though.
I think I'd like to do something from Kill 'em All, maybe Jump In The Fire.
Well we put you down for doing Seek and Destroy, so try and learn those.

[RustedPieces]

So Seek & Destroy is the song you guys are doing?

[Chu]

Well we put you down for doing Seek and Destroy, so try and learn those.
Ok, I will start now :)
When you do guys want a recording by? I don't really know how fast I could get a decent recording, but I'll start ASAP, the lyrics aren't very different, so I'll be able to get them down soon.

[Thor]

Ok, I will start now :)
When you do guys want a recording by? I don't really know how fast I could get a decent recording, but I'll start ASAP, the lyrics aren't very different, so I'll be able to get them down soon.
Well this is how we are going to do the recording:

1. Sliptallica records drums
2. Metal_Head_617 records bass
3. R. Blythe records guitars
4. Chu records vocals

Then you can put it all together and then we have our song.

[RustedPieces]

I hope it doesn't take a long time. I want to hear it.

[guitarcreep13]

dont get sheet music, just download power tab and save your money

those suck. They are always wrong. And I don't want to buy the sheet music to learn it. I already know how to play it. I want to do it as a 'collecting' thing, ya know?

[flamesofbodom]

Power Tabs are the most accurate tabs on the internet. Sheet music is wrong more than it should be.

[Happy]

Yes, they're the most accurate, but only the ones that are correct. You get people who rate it wrong because it doesn't match the tabbook, tabs that are off and there's not a full collection of albums or bands.

[Sandtrap]

Well this is how we are going to do the recording:

1. Sliptallica records drums
2. Metal_Head_617 records bass
3. R. Blythe records guitars
4. Chu records vocals

Then you can put it all together and then we have our song.

What song are you guys doin? :confused:

[flamesofbodom]

Do one song from each album
Like:
Seek & Destroy
Creeping Death
Master Of Puppets
Blackened
Nothing Else Matters
Until It Sleeps
Fuel
No Leaf Clover
Frantic/St. Anger

[LarsAgi007]

What song are you guys doin? :confused:

Last I heard I think it was seek and destroy.

[Squirrel]

those suck. They are always wrong. And I don't want to buy the sheet music to learn it. I already know how to play it. I want to do it as a 'collecting' thing, ya know?

You are **** at the internet if you get bad powertabs.

[cliff solos for all]

Do one song from each album
Like:
Seek & Destroy
Creeping Death
Master Of Puppets
Blackened
Nothing Else Matters
Until It Sleeps
Fuel
No Leaf Clover
Frantic/St. Anger


Seek & Destroy
Creeping Death
Master Of Puppets
Blackened
Enter sandman
Until It Sleeps
Fuel
No Leaf Clover
Sweet Amber

[Thor]

Do one song from each album
Like:
Seek & Destroy
Creeping Death
Master Of Puppets
Blackened
Nothing Else Matters
Until It Sleeps
Fuel
No Leaf Clover
Frantic/St. Anger
That's a good idea, about doing one from each album. I'll talk it over with the rest of the crew.

[Chu]

I'd like to do something from the first 3 albums, I don't know if I'd want to do something I don't like :p

[Thor]

Yeah, everything past Black Album pretty much sucks. I would like to do some of these songs, if anyone in the crew sees this:

Blackened
Orion
The Thing That Should Not Be
Creeping Death
No Remorse
Battery

[Chu]

Yeah, everything past Black Album pretty much sucks. I would like to do some of these songs, if anyone in the crew sees this:

Blackened
Orion
The Thing That Should Not Be
Creeping Death
No Remorse
Battery
I wouldn't mind doing Creeping Death and The Thing That Should Not Be.
If the rest of you guys wanna do the other songs, I'll fit them in :)

[JACKROXYOU]

another set of favorites list

this list has been done at least 10 times

[flamesofbodom]

Do at least one acoustic song

[Thor]

Try reading stuff.
Way to set the record straight.

Anyways, after we do Seek and Destroy let's do The Thing That Should Not Be.

Do at least one acoustic song
I guess that is a good idea. If I had to do an acoustic song I would do Fade to Black.

[JACKROXYOU]

ah i see

my bad munky

[Chu]

Way to set the record straight.

Anyways, after we do Seek and Destroy let's do The Thing That Should Not Be.


I guess that is a good idea. If I had to do an acoustic song I would do Fade to Black.
I ask we don't do Fade To Black, the song is so good how it is, I don't even want to think what would happen if we ruined it :P
I wouldn't mind doing Unforgiven..

Maybe Sanitarium, that's pretty easy, and equally as good.

[Thor]

I ask we don't do Fade To Black, the song is so good how it is, I don't even want to think what would happen if we ruined it :P
I wouldn't mind doing Unforgiven..

Maybe Sanitarium, that's pretty easy, and equally as good.
Sanitarium is a pretty good song, but Nothing Else Matters would be fun to do as well.

[Chu]

Yeah, that could be cool.

[Thor]

Just asking, why don't you have an avatar?

[fatbandit]

Bah, I see I have failed to gather together another band? :lol:

Out of interest, what program are you guys using to record? And which of you is putting it together/mixing?

[Chu]

Just asking, why don't you have an avatar?
Haven't found anything I like.

Well, I'm just going to use a microphone straight onto my computer for vocals, dunno how the rest will do their instruments.

[Thor]

Chu, do you know if you can put everything together and mix it? You are the last person to record, so just see if you can do it when you are done singing.

Sliptallica, how are those drums coming?

[Chu]

Chu, do you know if you can put everything together and mix it? You are the last person to record, so just see if you can do it when you are done singing.

Sliptallica, how are those drums coming?
I doubt I can...

[Thor]

If you're using a recording program capable of Multi-tracking it shouldn't be too hard to mix them.
Do you think you can mix them for us? I'm new to recording so I don't want to mess things up.

[Huber]

Chu, do you know if you can put everything together and mix it? You are the last person to record, so just see if you can do it when you are done singing.

Sliptallica, how are those drums coming?

I'm not going to be able to get it done as fast as we'd probably want, because my house is full of idiots. If anyone else wants to do drums, go for it.

[Thor]

I'm not going to be able to get it done as fast as we'd probably want, because my house is full of idiots. If anyone else wants to do drums, go for it.
How long are we talking? I don't have to have this done immediately, but sooner is better than later.

[Huber]

Thursdays are when my family actually leaves and I get to play, and I could do something then. This weekend however my family (except me) is going out of town and I could do more/better if allowed that weekend. Again though, if you can find someone else it'd be better. LarsAgi plays drums I'm pretty sure.

[Thor]

Sweet. Anyone else want to do drums since Sliptallica apparently can't?

[LarsAgi007]

How long are we talking? I don't have to have this done immediately, but sooner is better than later.

I could do Seek and destroy tommorow, but I have a problem... I would have to record the drum parts on tape as thats the only method of drum recording that I have, How would I get it onto my PC? I could of course play the tape and record through mic??? But however the quality could be a major issue.

[Huber]

I could do Seek and destroy tommorow, but I have a problem... I would have to record the drum parts on tape as thats the only method of drum recording that I have, How would I get it onto my PC? I could of course play the tape and record through mic??? But however the quality could be a major issue.

You can record to your tape player, and then just plug in the recorder through the line in. Then load up Audacity and hit record.

[Joe]

I ask we don't do Fade To Black, the song is so good how it is, I don't even want to think what would happen if we ruined it :P
I wouldn't mind doing Unforgiven..

Maybe Sanitarium, that's pretty easy, and equally as good.

yea don't do fade to black. i'm not even sure why we're doing S&D either, it's too good of a song.

Sanitarium is pretty easy. we could do stuff off the black album too, because it wouldn't be too awful if we ruined it.

the unforgiven and the unforgiven II would be fun

[Chu]

we could do stuff off the black album too, because it wouldn't be too awful if we ruined it.
:lol:

[Joe]

well i'm write... i like all the songs on the cd but it wouldn't be a complete embarassment if we effed 'em up.

ok yea it would, but i wouldn't mind as much

[Huber]

Yeah, it'd be like.

"Oh well, atleast it wasn't Master of Puppets."

[Thor]

I could do Seek and destroy tommorow, but I have a problem... I would have to record the drum parts on tape as thats the only method of drum recording that I have, How would I get it onto my PC? I could of course play the tape and record through mic??? But however the quality could be a major issue.
Send it to me and I'll just lay some bass down. I don't think that the quality will be that bad.

[Chu]

Maybe we should start with St. Anger :p

[Huber]

I could do Seek and destroy tommorow, but I have a problem... I would have to record the drum parts on tape as thats the only method of drum recording that I have, How would I get it onto my PC? I could of course play the tape and record through mic??? But however the quality could be a major issue.

If you're worried about quality, do a lot of testing with the positioning of your recorder.

[Whale and Wasp]

aiiieeee i wish i was a better guitarist :upset:

[Huber]

aiiieeee i wish i was a better guitarist :upset:

Yeah, me too. That'd be cool.

[trev913]

Yeah, me too. That'd be cool.

I'll drink to that. My main problem is getting a good tone. I've actually used a bass amp lately, cause I want something with bottom end. But I can't get the gentle crunch that I want.

[RustedPieces]

You guys should do Orion if Chu doesn't want to do vocals. That would be pretty cool.

[NoHero9]

I wish I had a way to record onto the computer, it would be incredibally fun to record a song on here. :upset:


im no computer nerd, so if anyone has pointers....I have a little crappy tape recorder, and possibly a cord that could connect it to the computer, somehow, but I know nothing of this, any advice? I wanna record for this so bad.....

[Huber]

You should be able to record something to the tape recorder, then plug it into the line-in port on your computer, then get something to record with on your computer (I use Audacity and like it) then start recording with the program and hit play on the tape recorder.

[Chu]

im no computer nerd
Please don't get nerd and geek mixed up.

[Deth]

I stole this idea, and now we are going to do a cover in the Opeth thread. We should do a face off.

[incubliss]

what's happening in the world of Metallica these days?

new album?
new tour?

what's going on?

(there's ALOT of pages here, and i'm not gonna read them all, or search. the search is too vague)

[Thor]

I stole this idea, and now we are going to do a cover in the Opeth thread. We should do a face off.
I think the Tool boys are going to do it as well. We all can have a cover showdown. We just need to get all of the Official threads to do it.

what's happening in the world of Metallica these days?

new album?
new tour?

what's going on?

(there's ALOT of pages here, and i'm not gonna read them all, or search. the search is too vague)
Metallica took a vacation after touring and then they are going to enter the studio to begin recording their new album.

[incubliss]

are they still on vacation now?

[Deth]

I think the Tool boys are going to do it as well. We all can have a cover showdown. We just need to get all of the Official threads to do it.

I think that would be a great idea. Then everyone could vote and stuff.

Imagine the Slipknot cover...

[RustedPieces]

I think the Tool boys are going to do it as well. We all can have a cover showdown. We just need to get all of the Official threads to do it.
We should get the Megadeth thread too.

[Deth]

Every offical thread, no exceptions.

Unless they WANT to be made fun of by the good threads.

[RustedPieces]

Ok, I posted in the Megadeth forums about this.

[Thor]

We should get the Megadeth thread too.
We need to get everyone to do it. I'll play for the Slipknot thread on bass if no one else wants to. I was a huge fan of these guys last year so I know a lot of their stuff still.

[Deth]

Since you are probably the most respected guy here Metal_head, could you pitch this to the mods to make an official competition?

This will kick *** if everyone does it.

[Thor]

Since you are probably the most respected guy here Metal_head, could you pitch this to the mods to make an official competition?

This will kick *** if everyone does it.
I can give it a shot. I'll see how it goes.

*feels loved because I was called respected* :)

EDIT:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061205&postcount=6217

There you go.

[RustedPieces]

I can give it a shot. I'll see how it goes.

*feels loved because I was called respected* :)

EDIT:
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8061205&postcount=6217

There you go.
This is going to be awesome.

[Deth]

Only time will tell now.

And I do love you Metal_Head :).

[Thor]

Only time will tell now.

And I do love you Metal_Head :).
Finally, I'm getting some respect around here. :D

[RustedPieces]

Looks like they're liking the idea in the Deth thread. :)

[Thor]

Well I just hope that the mods like it. I think if everyone else wants to do it then they will agree.

[Dude3]

This is pretty cool. Every band's thread having a competition against eachother. Right now, I'm planning on doing it for the Megadeth thread.

[RustedPieces]

This is pretty cool. Every band's thread having a competition against eachother. Right now, I'm planning on doing it for the Megadeth thread.
What instrument do you play?

[Thor]

I'm pretty sure he plays guitar.

[Deth]

I think it'll be tough for some threads though. Like vocals in the Maiden thread and drummer(s) in Slipknot. But that's too bad.

[Deth]

I think it'll be tough for some threads though. Like vocals in the Maiden thread and drummer(s) in Slipknot. But that's too bad.

[Huber]

If the Iron Maiden thread can't get a good enough vocalist, they can do Big Orra, and not all of Joey's stuff is to hard. There should be a song for every thread to do that they can get together.

[Five Magics]

how do you upload your part onto here?