Metallica Inc.

[metalcritter666]

I haven't heard any Voivod. Is he still in Flotsam And Jetsam?

[Joe]

I haven't heard much of them, what do they play

[Endless Obsession]

I haven't heard much of them, what do they play

Thrash, Speed Metal, Heavy Metal

[DisposableHeroes]

Is he still in Flotsam And Jetsam?

Nope, he left once he joined Metallica

[Endless Obsession]

My 1000 post should be in my favorite thread.

[Mazeppa]

My 1000 post should be in my favorite thread.
Congrats :)

Just don't make a thread about it.

[Thor]

Congrats :)

Just don't make a thread about it.
Whoops. :D

[metalcritter666]

Congrats R. Blythe...

What does everyone think of Live Sh!t?

[Six Foot Revolver]

My 1000 post should be in my favorite thread.
Welcome to the members list :wave:

Congrats :)

Just don't make a thread about it.
I think I am going to for the big 5,000, which I wouldn't be that far away if I could get my friggin' account merge

[Endless Obsession]

What does everyone think of Live Sh!t?

The best concert(s) recorded in history.

[Mazeppa]

What does everyone think of Live Sh!t?
I think it's great.

I think I am going to for the big 5,000, which I wouldn't be that far away if I could get my friggin' account merge
Merge, now there's an idea...

[Sandtrap]

I really like hearing some of metallica's old demos...its really cool to hear what they sounded like before the real thing came out. Especially the ones in 81 and 82. Cool ****!

[LarsAgi007]

Hey Guys, Check out some of this Beatallica Artwork! Its pretty cool.

http://www.beatallica.org/fanart/sargent%20puppets.jpg

http://www.beatallica.org/fanart/Album%201%20Cover.JPG

http://www.beatallica.org/fanart/Beatallica_SOD_cover.jpg

http://www.beatallica.org/fanart/Sgto.%20Anger.jpg

http://www.beatallica.org/fanart/Beatallica_garage_dayz_2.gif

[Deth]

That's pretty cool, I love the old Beatallica.

[Endless Obsession]

Those pictures are sweet. My favorite is the Sgt. Anger one.

[blue3]

Cool artwork..

[Endless Obsession]

My second timne reaching 1000 posts should be in the metallica forum, my home away from home.

[appreciate_it]

well done. good loyalty.

[mr black]

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Someone threw a shoe or something in BDO 05 at Slipknot's Corey. The guy missed and corey said nice shot d!ickhead.

HAHA yeah that was hilarious! on coreys behalf he pwn'd that stupid kid

[LarsAgi007]

[QUOTE=PepsiMetal]Someone threw a shoe or something in BDO 05 at Slipknot's Corey. The guy missed and corey said nice shot d!ickhead.

HAHA yeah that was hilarious! on coreys behalf he pwn'd that stupid kid

This is the official Metallica thread....

Not the official Slipknot thread:thumb:

[DisposableHeroes]

yeah...echobrain is pretty un-metal. Jason used to be cool...

He plays in Voivod now, thats pretty cool if you ask me

[Deth]

Voivod are pretty cool. Plus he plays with Ozzy, though it's not much work for him lately.

[Huber]

My second timne reaching 1000 posts should be in the metallica forum, my home away from home.

You have an old account? What is it?

[DisposableHeroes]

Voivod are pretty cool. Plus he plays with Ozzy, though it's not much work for him lately.

Actually he left Ozzy ages ago man

[Joe]

Actually he left Ozzy ages ago man

He did? I was always wondering about that. I know he was in Ozzy for awhile but I wasn't sure if he left.

[lilmetallica]

Is there anyway to delete a thread?

[munky_magik]

Is there anyway to delete a thread?
Only a mod or admin can do it.

[Joe]

can't you delete your first post?

and my post count has dropped a lot, i think a thread was deleted

[Sandtrap]

does anyone know a website or something were I could get metallcia videos or live stuff or something like that?

[Joe]

launch.yahoo.com

YSI thread, except I can't figure out how to put Live $hit on my computer

[Deth]

Actually he left Ozzy ages ago man
How about that. I had no idea.

[munky_magik]

can't you delete your first post?

and my post count has dropped a lot, i think a thread was deleted
I doubt it. Even if you could the thread would still exist.
Burt deleted the Song Name Game thread recently, in case you had posts in that.

[Sandtrap]

launch.yahoo.com

YSI thread, except I can't figure out how to put Live $hit on my computer

I would use that but my connection is ****ing slow and I cant ever see but a few seconds of the video...I meant more of a place to download

[Joe]

ok try the YSI thread

[lilmetallica]

Did any body notice that at the end of King Nothing he just says "off to never-never land" for no reason. Whats up with that?!

[Deth]

I'm sure if you were James Hetfield, you would do the exact same thing. But because you're not, you probably don't understand.

[Joe]

I'm sure if you were James Hetfield, you would do the exact same thing. But because you're not, you probably don't understand.

That didn't make any sense. Explain?

[lilmetallica]

Please do...

[munky_magik]

I think he was meaning that if you were James Hetfield the reason for saying that would be clear because you would be Him.
Since you aren't him, and don't hold his knowledge it doesn't make sense to you.

[lilmetallica]

Ooooh but i might not do the exact same thing and he made it sound like he was james so i didnt know what was going on...(that happens alot :rolleyes: )

[Chu]

Should do a sort of Recommended listenning here, the catch, it can only be Metallica songs.
Person A say a Metallica song (Everyone will probably know them) and Person B has to do a review of the song, and then suggest some other songs, good idea?

[Joe]

sounds good,

Fade to Black

[lilmetallica]

Whose person B in this situation?

[Chu]

First person to call dibs on the song.

Person B ultimately becomes Person A :p

[Joe]

you are, because i was person A and named a song. now you review it and name a new song

Fade to Black

[lilmetallica]

Me.. oh ok.
it starts off with a real cool intro and then gets all heavy and cool thats some major point right there
the lyrics are really depressing but are also cool especially at the end when he says"death greets me warm now i will just say goodbyr..." youre like waiting for a gun shot er somethin scary...
all in all AWESOME SONG EVERY BODY LISTEN TO IT NOW!!!

[Joe]

name another song

NP: FTB Live MIAWTW Tour

[vashts80]

The Outlaw Torn

[Chu]

:o
That review really didn't do justice to it :p
You should include the solos?

Edit: I got The Outlaw Torn :D

The Outlaw Torn: #14 from Load.
Starts off all quiet with the drums coming in and some guitar playing some heavily muted chords and then a wah.
It eventually speeds up with the drums playing a bit faster and then a cool sounding guitar riff.
The guitar stops but drums are still going, bass comes in and then Hetfield starts.

Everything stops except for the drums and some effects from the guitar, Hetfield comes back in and the bass is playing a simple little pattern here.
It pretty much just repeats the same pattern here, heavy sounding guitar with a simple bass line and some drums.

Until about 5:13 when it all stops but the guitar effects come in again.
The bass is playing some sick riff (With pedals?) and then Kirk comes in with sweet effects again, I guess this is the beginning of a solo. It sounds kinda slow, almost like an electric violin could be playing it (Yes, violin's can play fast) it starts getting faster, and louder, at about the 6:16 mark, and the drums start speeding up until about 6:25 when the chaos begins again.
All the time Kirk's still playing with his wah, it's actually a very cool sound, similar to his little jizz after FWTBT live Woodstock '99.

At about the 7:00 mark Hetfield comes back with vocals, it goes back to a sweet riff, at 7:36 everything stops and the guitars are playing some cool chords again with the bass (effected?) pedals, and Kirk with some wah, a guitar comes in with a sweet riff, I'd say this is the best riff in the song, it slowly starts speeding up, its like building for a climax, at about the 9:08 mark it starts getting cool :p Only for a brief moment though, and just keeps playing through with a little bit of variation to that riff until the end.

Next song: Battery

[Joe]

The Outlaw Torn has many extremely cool hardcore riffs and some amazingly cool lighter riffs. It's got a really awesome solo too

NP: The Outlaw Torn S&M

edit: ok, chu "got it" so ill let him do it then ill do whatever he posts

[lilmetallica]

Is that me oh..

Dont Tread On Me.

[Joe]

It's kinda boring. DTOM is a lost track on the black album that really didn't catch my ear. I didn't really like it. The lyrics weren't anything special and the riffs were only ok

Welcome Home (Sanitarium)

[lilmetallica]

CHU why did you go to that idiot cutting thread its retarted!!!!
Never mind hes off ok.
Go to my thread if you get a chance songs you hurt yourself headbanging to. :thimb:

[Chu]

CHU why did you go to that idiot cutting thread its retarted!!!!
Ehh?

[lilmetallica]

never mind the thread that says Songs you hurt your self cutting to is a rip off of my thread songs you hurt yourself headbanging to.

[Chu]

I did the review btw, it's up there, do Battery now.

[lilmetallica]

is it my turn er gocaps?

[Chu]

I think gocaps...

[Endless Obsession]

You have an old account? What is it?

No i was at like 1000 even and they deleted the Song Name Game and that lost me like 10 posts so I reached it twice. Thats probly what happned to you Gocaps.

[Sandtrap]

I got "Welcome Home"!

Welcome Home(Sanatarium)/Track #4 Off Master Of Puppets.

The songs starts off with very little drums with light gutiar note picking. then picks up without durms into a steady acoustic riff, then the drums pick up and the steady acoustic riff is acompanied by LARS!!
The drums build an HAMMETT comes threw with a great, melodic six string solo. Great feel and adds alot of substance to the acoustic riff.
Then HETFEILD start vocaling and the lyrics are obviously very dark and angery. The song slowing building into the refrain while the verse lyrics are sung and the refrain comes quickly to a "santarium....leave me be!", "sanatarim...just leave me alone".
Then back to the acoustic riff and HAMMETT comes threw with another melodic ripper. Great stuff!
The second verse after HAMMETT's great ****! Changing points of veiw several times to show both sides of the "story". Then back into the refrain.
A new fast pace riff is included and a different over it so that you get a fast feel to the middle of the song. Then slowing down with chords and HETFEILD comes in with some more great stuff.
Now its time for HAMMETT's face melter of this song, with lots of wah and echo. Then a new riff harmoisized, a sort of 'And Justice for All' feel. And HAMMETT with more great stuff over it, ends on a great mid range high note.
Then a big ending with some fills by ULRICH. And thats the end!

[Endless Obsession]

Sandtrap now u have to post a song.

[Chu]

Sick review, that's the kind of review I meant :)

[Huber]

No i was at like 1000 even and they deleted the Song Name Game and that lost me like 10 posts so I reached it twice. Thats probly what happned to you Gocaps.

**** dude, I had a lot of posts in there too. Man, I liked that thread.

[metallicapeppermint27]

wow i love metallica this is my first post thingy so i had to do it in a metallica thread. as a guitarist id say i love Hit The Lights on Kill 'Em All

[Deth]

They got rid of the song name thread? Damn, that's where my posts went. A lot of them as well.

[Huber]

wow i love metallica this is my first post thingy so i had to do it in a metallica thread. as a guitarist id say i love Hit The Lights on Kill 'Em All

Cool, welcome to the boards.

[appreciate_it]

Hit the lights is a brilliant song. I'd have to say Whoever did Fade to black, it was a pretty hagged review for Metallicas Front Running songs. I mean, you didn't get into any depth of the song being created or anythin! No offence you're probably more of a local round these parts(haha) than me but did you know about fade to black:
They started writing it because all thier gear got stolen out of thier van the night before they were going to the ultimate place at the time, britain. passports, gear, money, everything.
"simply nothing more to give"

[SKoRioN]

Hey guys 'n' gals, haven't posted in a while but I thought if I'm gonna make one I may as well do it in the good ole Met thread ;)

What's happening ?

[metalcritter666]

I haven't been on for a couple days but I think there's a bunch of review type things going on...

[BassMasterMike88]

Is it me or does anyone else think Whiplash sounds quite abit like Hit the Lights? I guess they are just in the same key or somthing.

[Mazeppa]

They don't sound alike to me.

[Iceman-rocker]

their completely different. the only thing alike is the double picked/palm muted open note. but hit the lights is in a, and whiplash is in e.

suck it.

[wicked_child]

except for the fast shreds, they are not the same.

[wicked_child]

They got rid of the song name thread? Damn, that's where my posts went. A lot of them as well.

yeah. i love that game.

[IbanezSA]

metallica is an amazing band didnt like there new cd saint anger as much but they are still a very good band i mean cmon who couldnt love ...and justice for all

[Bartender]

Me. I'm not much of a fan of (most of) AJFA.

[metalcritter666]

I personally like St. Anger...I think ReLoad is their worst CD because the songs are just....missing something. St. Anger maybe repetitive and there is a lack of solos but the riffs are really great and the drumming is better than anything through the 90s (even if they sound a bit like trashcans).

[Leper]

fast drumming /= better drumming..I'm no expert on percussion but i thought Lars's work on St. Anger actually souded rather sloppy.

[Endless Obsession]

I like fast drumming more than slow. It really adds to the song.

[munky_magik]

Even if it's a slow song?

[Huber]

The drumming on St. Anger was okay. Nothing special, but I don't think it sounded "sloppy".

[Leper]

ok, well maybe it was just the tuning. Like i said, i'm no expert on drums.

[lilmetallica]

Yea there was a ring on the snare that sounds really weird...

[VicRattlehead99]

yeah i agree the drumming on st.anger was good but the drum itself ruined it for me that sound inoined the crap out of me.

[flamesofbodom]

I just noticed it on Sweet Amber. Ugh

[maddog87]

Who Is Metallica??!!!!???!!!

[lilmetallica]

Ummm well here I'll send you the entire story-
http://metallica.com/Band/history.asp
READ IT MEMORIZE IT TEST TOMORROW
6:00 my time.

[maddog87]

OMG i was jk

[Mazeppa]

OMG i was jk
Wow, brilliant joke.

[maddog87]

Wow, brilliant joke.
thanks. i feel so cool.

[lilmetallica]

:rolleyes:
Memorise it any way all of you
helpful stuff right there who needs sophisticated literature just tell me metallica's first tour equipment was carried in a stolen U-haul. thats all i need. :thumb:

[Hameed67]

Im a metallica fan for life, but they have not released a Real metal CD since the 90's and ST. Anger was terrible

[vashts80]

Robzilla's intro on The God That Failed > Newsted's intro imo

[metalcritter666]

Robzilla's intro on The God That Failed > Newsted's intro imo
Send it on the YSI thread :grin:

[vashts80]

gocaps uploaded it a few pages back on the YSI thread, not sure if it's still up or not though.

[LarsAgi007]

I was upset that Larz dismissed the idea of a Metallica greatest hits album! GRRR, I thought it was a good Idea.

[wicked_child]

I was upset that Larz dismissed the idea of a Metallica greatest hits album! GRRR, I thought it was a good Idea.

listen to s&m. :)

[metal_milita]

No offence man, but none of the reviews do justice to any of the songs. their not reviews..... their just... summaries or timelines. if anything, I would love playing a game where you in-depth analyze the lyrics/music. IN DEPTH. then again, that's gonna be un-fun and educational, so no ones prolly gonna be in.

[flamesofbodom]

Wait...you want us to write reviews?

[Deth]

Yeah, you guys aren't that great at reviews.

NP: Bleeding Me

[flamesofbodom]

I never wrote a review here though

[Sandtrap]

wow i love metallica this is my first post thingy so i had to do it in a metallica thread. as a guitarist id say i love Hit The Lights on Kill 'Em All

We are glad to have your first post! I have to say that Kill em' all is my favorite album too. :thumb:

[RustedPieces]

This idiot in one of my classes is convinced that Blink-182 has sold more albums then metallica. He's such a moron.

[Endless Obsession]

I was upset that Larz dismissed the idea of a Metallica greatest hits album! GRRR, I thought it was a good Idea.

Just get Live ****. Thats pretty much a greatest hits. Especially Seattle.

This idiot in one of my classes is convinced that Blink-182 has sold more albums then metallica. He's such a moron.

This idiot in my Spanish class thinks that more people like Jack Johnson than Slayer, and that he has sold more albums. Hes an idiot. Everyone in my school is brainwashed like that cause i live in a rich-jewish neighborhood so the majority of the peope either like rap or like acoustic guitar people. They really know nothing.

[Deth]

I'm in a Jewish community and it's about the same, but they're so nice! I love Jewish people.

[RustedPieces]

lol I think we're getting off topic.

[Endless Obsession]

I'm in a Jewish community and it's about the same, but they're so nice! I love Jewish people.

U love me.

Everyone knows that Rob is jewish right? :rolleyes:

[CemetaryGates9]

I'm turning slightly against Jews because some pussy Jewish kid was talking to the love of my life.

Now, someone change the topic.

[willis2441]

I'm turning slightly against Jews because some pussy Jewish kid was talking to the love of my life.

Now, someone change the topic.
hahahahahahaha thats great,im laughing my *** off

[Endless Obsession]

Now, someone change the topic.

OKay. I like how the little thing under your name(forget what its called) is a Metallica quote.

[willis2441]

Who Is Metallica??!!!!???!!!
sorry for the double post but...
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?1

[Chu]

Back to the reviews!
Sandtrap never posted a song to review, and gocaps never did Battery.
So, someone do Battery, or someone make up a song.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Good news!

Im not banned anymore and I got live sh*t.

I love when Kirk drags his guitar around and when they play the four horsemen

[metal_milita]

I never wrote a review here though
All posts do not directly apply to you...

[metal_milita]

Back to the reviews!
Sandtrap never posted a song to review, and gocaps never did Battery.
So, someone do Battery, or someone make up a song.
make up a song?

If you wanna start reviewin for real, not just

'starts off acoustic guitar, nice melody, then kicks you in the nutbag with some thundrous riffs before James starts barkin out the words etc'

then i'll be in once it starts.

fyi, im not talkin about the music theory etc, i just mean like review the song like you would analyze a book in english. each little parts is significant and why, and why did metallica choose to play the guitar this way with the lyrics and the drums that way etc. not based on quantity, but quality.

then again, im not necessarily the one callin the shots here either. have fun, do what you please. its a public forum (something the mods gotta realize)

edit: to post above mine, thats all summary. post that in a place where the people haven't heard metallica, we all don't need to know that because we all know it even better. we're passed the 'summarize your favorite song' in this thread, its been overdone (just like best song/best album/kirk or mustaine etc), lets try something new (for kicks) and ANALyze (don't ask why I did that)

[Endless Obsession]

Alright i understand, but why dont u do one to exemplify what u are trying to say.

[metal_milita]

Alright i understand, but why dont u do one to exemplify what u are trying to say.
Because I'm only on a 15 min break from my History IB Essay, my TOK paragraph, drafting house and a new composition. IB month because schools almost over, so I don't have time for even the forums now. thats why I post once in a blue moon

[Endless Obsession]

O sh!t its 1:19 in the morn here. Night. Maybe ill attempt one tomarrow.*

*later today

[metal_milita]

Hell fine i'll quickly try one

"BATTERY

title signifies violence. common ground (for a listener) to assume song will be fast paced and expected to have a shock value attached, whether by lyrics or music.

Yet this song starts off with a slow and simple acoutsic duo, relatively chromatic in one guitar and quite different with the other, creating a pleasant sound. This sweet and harmless intro opposes the title and whats to come in the song. EFfect resembles that of the starry tune in intro from Fight Fire with Fire, just a contradiction of whats to come. Why? Perhaps this makes the listener more relaxed in a state of mind so that when the song actually begins, the listener is shocked and startled. However, after the small acoustic riff, the sound simply changes to distortion and the drums pound away to emphasize the melody/harmony of the guitar. Common metallica trait for Lars to simply pound the tombs alongside the guitar. The effect is simply the song sounds metallicaish. Soon the intro riff stops and the with a small transiton, we're thrown into the fast riff. A bit after the first minute, and the song has built out of a weak and tuneful melody to a common metallica verse riff."

thats all i could do in the 15 minutes I can spare, as you can see it is a song summary,but the difference is how everything must be explained, it doesn't matter if whats said is 'right' according to different people, it presents a new opinoin and interpretation of the song. This was very rough, so pardon me, but thats my personal example that i could quickly come up with

[CemetaryGates9]

So we're reviewing Metallica songs for fun now, or what?

[metal_milita]

So we're reviewing Metallica songs for fun now, or what?
for fun, but lets make it serious so we don't end up talkin a bunch of crap like usual and we actually learn stuff and offer our own ideas.

o man i feel like my tok (theory of knowledge) teacher

[appreciate_it]

people get confused between the sound of lars' drums and lars drumming. i personally think his drumming is good, they just sound so horrible.

[wicked_child]

people get confused between the sound of lars' drums and lars drumming. i personally think his drumming is good, they just sound so horrible.

not really, depends on the album. my fave lars sounds are from reload, load, and ride. i hate the drums in st. anger and and justice. a friend told me they sound like cans.

[PepsiMetal]

people get confused between the sound of lars' drums and lars drumming. i personally think his drumming is good, they just sound so horrible.

Well he's not a phenominal drummer, but he fits metallica imo. The only album that his drums sound bad on is st. anger. But in concerts, his drums sound fine.

[fenderbender89]

So we're reviewing Metallica songs for fun now, or what?

yep

review a song. :)

[heavy metal kid]

The Unforgiven
The song overall:
Basically this song broke the orthodoxe rules of the power ballad, the song starts with a horn sound play backward, then start that accoustic fingerpick intro and the electric guitar lines sound like a old west melody.
Then the chords strike with the badass verse, then the chorus start with intro music.
thats the whole structure on the song, except for the interlude followed by the awesome guitar solo play over the verse chords somehow dissorted.
In a few words this song is the example of simplicity and greatness. 5/5

Lyrics:The lyrics are well done, somehow make you feel like you live in an already planned world. 5/5
Vocals:The vocals are very good, hetfield's voice was well done specially on the chorus. 4/5
Guitars:The whole guitars are very simple but are well done.4.5/5
Bass:The bass structure is like the guitars, but it's to overshadowed.4/5
Solo:The solo is a simple guitar work, but it sounds awesome, the solo shows a lot of energy and feelings. 5/5
Live:The song live has an extra accoustic intro and a different outro with solos, the song live shows a lot of power specially the solo.5/5

[Iceman-rocker]

Call of the ktulu

This song is easier to understand (at least i think so) when its broken down into all of its different parts.
the intro is pretty sweet sounding, the chords are picked out in a manner that is mysterious and intriquing. following this is a different set of chords that sound more evil. then it repeats back, but with the bass drum. it gives it a kind of anticipation of what comes next, and you soon discover- the dist. guitar and drums come in heavy and uhh heavy. it follows the same riff from before but with distorted-palmmuted-crunchy-niceness. This section of the song, some will say is very repetitive, because for about a minute and twenty seconds, it basically follows the same patterns. Finally it sets the path for the solo with the e string riff followed by a cool doubling of the riff higher up on the fret board (lead guitar) the solo is set perfectly, it is built to in just the right ammount of time, and in the exact right context. Thats what makes it so interesting. Although there isnt much variation in the solo (mostly all e minor pentatonic) it makes its message heard. after the solo it goes into double time repeating (once again that repetitive riff!) from before the solo.
the pre-outro riff kicks so much ***. its so freakin heavy. the harmony and melody duet is really cool. finally (around the 6 minute mark) it repeats the intro of the song (clean) and .. unexpectedly finishes nice and loud.

vocals: none. and none are needed.
guitars: 5/5 nice riffs, nice lead guitar.
bass: In the album version the bass does this cool slide with wah that makes it sound like some kind of animal.
Live: they only played this song live a few times (im assuming because its long and gives them more chances of screwin up. or maybe they just dont like it much) the s & M version of this song is incredible, the orchestra fills in all the parts that are "boring and repetive"


wow. ten minutes of my life down the drain. i should been just playing the song.. then id still have 3 minutes back.

[Chu]

Call of the ktulu

This song is easier to understand (at least i think so) when its broken down into all of its different parts.
the intro is pretty sweet sounding, the chords are picked out in a manner that is mysterious and intriquing. following this is a different set of chords that sound more evil. then it repeats back, but with the bass drum. it gives it a kind of anticipation of what comes next, and you soon discover- the dist. guitar and drums come in heavy and uhh heavy. it follows the same riff from before but with distorted-palmmuted-crunchy-niceness. This section of the song, some will say is very repetitive, because for about a minute and twenty seconds, it basically follows the same patterns. Finally it sets the path for the solo with the e string riff followed by a cool doubling of the riff higher up on the fret board (lead guitar) the solo is set perfectly, it is built to in just the right ammount of time, and in the exact right context. Thats what makes it so interesting. Although there isnt much variation in the solo (mostly all e minor pentatonic) it makes its message heard. after the solo it goes into double time repeating (once again that repetitive riff!) from before the solo.
the pre-outro riff kicks so much ***. its so freakin heavy. the harmony and melody duet is really cool. finally (around the 6 minute mark) it repeats the intro of the song (clean) and .. unexpectedly finishes nice and loud.

vocals: none. and none are needed.
guitars: 5/5 nice riffs, nice lead guitar.
bass: In the album version the bass does this cool slide with wah that makes it sound like some kind of animal.
Live: they only played this song live a few times (im assuming because its long and gives them more chances of screwin up. or maybe they just dont like it much) the s & M version of this song is incredible, the orchestra fills in all the parts that are "boring and repetive"


wow. ten minutes of my life down the drain. i should been just playing the song.. then id still have 3 minutes back.
Nah man!
Thanks for this :)

metal_militia got it exactly. But err, you should post a song to do now :x
I think someone should go over Fade To Black again, I'm sure that just like me, othyer people here have Fade To Black as their favourite song too..

[Deth]

To intrude on your conversation here, have you listened closely to the bass on The Call Of Ktulu? It's pretty crazy stuff, and lots of fun to play.

[FlyingPaul_83]

To intrude on your conversation here, have you listened closely to the bass on The Call Of Ktulu? It's pretty crazy stuff, and lots of fun to play.


My favorite song off of RTL (for now) it's got great riffs and a good solo and a kick *** intro

[wicked_child]

bass: In the album version the bass does this cool slide with wah that makes it sound like some kind of animal.

agree to that!!!

[mr black]

SHOTGUN reviewing "To live is to die". I'll do it when i can be bothered... which funnily enough is not at 1 o'clock in the morning on a school night, this fact one might argue also renders this post completely pointless...

[BassMasterMike88]

The Call of Ktulu is without a doubt the best track off of RTL, what i like is how it changes mood and dynamics so well and then goes back to the ominous intro riff towards the end, now thats one of the greatest examples of songwriting ever, the instermentals speak for themselves so well that it dosne't need and lyrics/vocals.

[Kurrpt]

can anyone PLEASE upload metallica one to me...i wanna learn the solos....

[slash is god]

And justice for all is one of the greatest most inspiring albums of all time...for me anyway

[slash is god]

can anyone PLEASE upload metallica one to me...i wanna learn the solos....
i might be able to do that for u but prob not until lter tonight i am at school right now

[Kurrpt]

thanks

[metalcritter666]

can anyone PLEASE upload metallica one to me...i wanna learn the solos....
Why don't you just get ...And Justice For All? It's a great album (has One on it)

[Kurrpt]

i have to save money for trip to disney world......hello pleasure island....

staying 11 days in a hotel room with my girl..........i think so

[misunderstood]

can anyone PLEASE upload metallica one to me...i wanna learn the solos....


Metallica - One (http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1AJ1VHR88PX7G2MVUWIA4H1NMR)

There ya go...Enjoy.

[stb654]

HI, im new to the forum, i just wanna say Metallica ROCK!!!
Does any1 know when we can expect a new Metallica album? I also heard it would be their last.
Does any1 know when Metallica r comin back to the UK??
I SOOOO wanna see them in concert :angry:

[metalcritter666]

Welcome to the forums :thumb:, yea, Metallica do rock...
Nobody's sure yet but most people here think it will be out in early 2006, possibly before then if we're lucky but it's difficult to know for sure...personally I don't think it will be their last.
I reckon Metallica will come to the UK in June 2006 so they can play Download in support of the next album...whenever it comes out

[wicked_child]

is it the rumored overload album?

[Six Foot Revolver]

Welcome to the forums :thumb:, yea, Metallica do rock...
Nobody's sure yet but most people here think it will be out in early 2006, possibly before then if we're lucky but it's difficult to know for sure...personally I don't think it will be their last.
I reckon Metallica will come to the UK in June 2006 so they can play Download in support of the next album...whenever it comes out
I hope it doesn't come out earlier :-/

[cliff solos for all]

is it the rumored overload album?

THATS PRETTY COOL NAME,BUT I DONT THINK SO

[cliff solos for all]

HI, im new to the forum, i just wanna say Metallica ROCK!!!
Does any1 know when we can expect a new Metallica album? I also heard it would be their last.
Does any1 know when Metallica r comin back to the UK??
I SOOOO wanna see them in concert :angry:

NO WAY IS IT THERE LAST ALBUM

[vashts80]

There's an edit button for a reason.

/spam

[metalcritter666]

is it the rumored overload album?
Does Overload = ReReLoad? Oh ****! :eek:

I hope it doesn't come out earlier :-/

...Why? :confused:

[Squirrel]

They were meant to start recording in january/february of this year

[RustedPieces]

Does Overload = ReReLoad? Oh ****! :eek:

You didn't like reload?

[Pantera in Chains]

I hope it doesn't come out earlier :-/

I hope it doesn't come out unless they fire Lars (in my dreams), nothing against his drumming really he's not great but alright he did some pretty decent drumming on ...And justice but he seems to be making a lot of wrong decisions. It would be great if they'd get Tempesta or Lombardo. I also hope they get a new producer, which they said they'd never do. So yeah I hope it never comes out. It's a pitty how they are still making it with their long lost glory which really ended after ...And justice. Although they had some half decent stuff after that. St. anger was just sorrily a musical distasterpiece but thankfully it did do the good deed of turning my formerly blinded fan boy eyes onto other Thrash metal greats like Megadeth and Testament.

[flamesofbodom]

I heard they got a new producer.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

So the new album is called Overload?

Also, I once read that Trujillo really likes thrash and old-skool metal so he may bring a classic feel to their music. Hopefully this will be the case.

[Chu]

SHOTGUN reviewing "To live is to die". I'll do it when i can be bothered... which funnily enough is not at 1 o'clock in the morning on a school night, this fact one might argue also renders this post completely pointless...
Just replying to this so you remember it :)

[lilmetallica]

Yay it feels soo good to be back!!!!!!! What happened to the reviews dude you were all like yea reviews yea real reviews i think you did 3 (wayyyyy better than mine on FTB though) and that was it so far......

[RustedPieces]

I hope it doesn't come out unless they fire Lars (in my dreams), nothing against his drumming really he's not great but alright he did some pretty decent drumming on ...And justice but he seems to be making a lot of wrong decisions. It would be great if they'd get Tempesta or Lombardo. I also hope they get a new producer, which they said they'd never do. So yeah I hope it never comes out. It's a pitty how they are still making it with their long lost glory which really ended after ...And justice. Although they had some half decent stuff after that. St. anger was just sorrily a musical distasterpiece but thankfully it did do the good deed of turning my formerly blinded fan boy eyes onto other Thrash metal greats like Megadeth and Testament.
Without Lars I highly doubt they would be as successful as they are now. Everyone else in the band was in previous bands before Metallica. But Metallica is Lars' first band ever, and they've sold about 100 million records. So I guess he has to be doing something right.

[guitarist.kid]

At my school, people are telling me that Metallica is S hit. I know they are gods so people tell me things like that: " I'll make a top 100 list of bands that are better than Metallica". I hate that so do you have advice to reply do these insults to the greatest thrash metal band ever?

[Pantera in Chains]

Without Lars I highly doubt they would be as successful as they are now. Everyone else in the band was in previous bands before Metallica. But Metallica is Lars' first band ever, and they've sold about 100 million records. So I guess he has to be doing something right.

Yeah it's called good marketing which sometimes comes down on the music like with St. anger, they sold out to money a long time ago and since then their music has been going downhill and is now at an all time low. A good example of good marketing is britney spears or j.lo or some **** like that.

[CemetaryGates9]

At my school, people are telling me that Metallica is S hit. I know they are gods so people tell me things like that: " I'll make a top 100 list of bands that are better than Metallica". I hate that so do you have advice to reply do these insults to the greatest thrash metal band ever?
Tell them to STFU. :thumb:

[BassMasterMike88]

^
Seriously how could they say that? If you can go 20 years with pretty much staying true to your original sound, then you have to be among the greatest rock legends of all time.

[RustedPieces]

If they didn't "sell out", I think they would just be denying themselves of bigger and better things. And honestly who wants to see 40 year olds head banging to old school thrash?

[CemetaryGates9]

I'd just say "Okay." and then walk off, but that's cause id rather chop my arms off than exchange more than 2 sentences with any person in my school

[lilmetallica]

At my school, people are telling me that Metallica is S hit. I know they are gods so people tell me things like that: " I'll make a top 100 list of bands that are better than Metallica". I hate that so do you have advice to reply do these insults to the greatest thrash metal band ever?
Just ignore them or say STFU or ask "ok how many instruments can your favorite artist play"...they say like none you say"HA james hetfield can play every instrument in his band your favorite group doesnt even have instruments how is it music" then proceed to KICK THEIR AS S!!! :thumb:

[RustedPieces]

yeah it pisses me off when these kids are like "Dude, Blink-182 is like totally rad" and they talk **** about good bands that actually have talent.

[CemetaryGates9]

It's their opinion, so i try to not care, but i do get a little bit irritated.

[Pantera in Chains]

At my school, people are telling me that Metallica is S hit. I know they are gods so people tell me things like that: " I'll make a top 100 list of bands that are better than Metallica". I hate that so do you have advice to reply do these insults to the greatest thrash metal band ever?

You just tell them hey they are among the biggest selling artists of all time, I mean although they did sell a lot more of their bad albums than their masterpieces but that's just cause they had to take a different road to get more money. I mean look at artists like Michael Jackson and Britney Spears they've sold a countless number of albums so they must be good. :lol:
Face it man they lost the title of greatest thrash metal band ever when they went radio friendly and started kissin up to mtv. There are many many talented bands that are really underrated and just because some band sells the most records doesn't mean there's the best. Expand your musical mind. I'm not trying to be an ******* and I still think that Kill 'em all - ...And justice for all are among the greats. This is all my opinion and I'm am not trying to be an *******. Sorry if I sound like one.
Wow sorry for making somebody read this. Just something I was pondering about. Seriously just krank up Kill 'em all in front of them and tell 'em Metal up your ****in ***.
Anyways what do you think is the greatest bassist Metallica ever had?

Ron Mcgovney (yeah right)
Cliff Burton (**** yeah) I think Metallica lost a big part of their attitude when they lost him and lost a huge part of their musical genius. RIP Cliff
Jason Newstead (pretty good, since he managed to step in and do a pretty decent job filling the shoes of such a master as Cliff Burton)
Rob Trujillo (a very good and solid bassist)

[RustedPieces]

In order of best to worst:
1. Cliff Burton (**** yeah, amazing bassist my favorite bassist of all time. RIP)
2. Rob Trujillo (Nice unique style)
3. Jason Newsted (He was ok. Ugliest person I've ever seen though :lol: )
4. Ron McGovney ( :confused: )

[FlyingPaul_83]

In order of best to worst:
1. Cliff Burton (**** yeah, amazing bassist my favorite bassist of all time. RIP)
2. Rob Trujillo (Nice unique style)
3. Jason Newsted (He was ok. Ugliest person I've ever seen though :lol: )
4. Ron McGovney ( :confused: )


That's exactly my list,

Has anyone heard Flotsam & Jetsam?

In case you don't know who ron mcgovney is, he is their bassist before Cliff, when they saw cliff they kicked him out, i heard he wasn't even that good anyway.

[RustedPieces]

That's exactly my list,

Has anyone heard Flotsam & Jetsam?

In case you don't know who ron mcgovney is, he is their bassist before Cliff, when they saw cliff they kicked him out, i heard he wasn't even that good anyway.
Yeah I knew who he was. And no i've never heard Flotsam and Jetsam. Any good?

[FlyingPaul_83]

Yeah I knew who he was. And no i've never heard Flotsam and Jetsam. Any good?


It's the band that Jason was in before he joined metallica,It's supposed to be bass fueled thrash metal, I've never heard it so i dont know if that is true, so has anyone ever heard them and are they any good?

[Pantera in Chains]

That's exactly my list,

Has anyone heard Flotsam & Jetsam?

In case you don't know who ron mcgovney is, he is their bassist before Cliff, when they saw cliff they kicked him out, i heard he wasn't even that good anyway.

Yeah he especially lacked the attitude and got kicked out cos Dave didn't like him. One time Dave spilled beer in his pickup when he was away and then when he plugged the bass in it just kaboom :lol: . He got thrown against the wall but was alright. Dave once said that when he was in the band it was like 3 men and a baby(mcgovney).

[vashts80]

If Lars was not in Metallica, Metallica would not exist, it is as simple as that.

NOW.

1) Robzilla
2) Cliff
3) Jason
4) Ron

.

[willis2441]

cliff was thier best bassist imo and rob is right behind him

[fatbandit]

Best, I think Rob... Favourite... Cliff! As a person, not just a bassist.

[Chu]

Cliff is the best, easily imo.
I haven't heard anything by Rob except for his Jungle solo where he starts Orion about mid-way, that's some fast fingers he's got, so it's promising. I can't wait to hear metallica with bass again :o
Imagine Metallica's fast riffs with a speed-funk bass, that, in my opinion, would be amazing.

Edit: Where's gocaps? :confused:
He hasn't been around for a while, and he owes me a Battery review :lol:

Edit 2:

Yay it feels soo good to be back!!!!!!! What happened to the reviews dude you were all like yea reviews yea real reviews i think you did 3 (wayyyyy better than mine on FTB though) and that was it so far......
The idea wasn't for ME to do the reviews, I thought maybe someone could do a review, then suggest a song (Or maybe a few songs) for the next person to review.

Feel free to review any song, I'd say maybe something from Load/ReLoad if you could, I'm sure there are good songs on those albums :)

[ThrashMaster27]

I hate these list things. Anyway, you can't say technically which Bassist was better, cause they are all very talented. Jason perhaps didn't join Metallica at the right time to flaunt his skills, cause he really is amazing. Cliff wasn't AMAZING as everyone says he was, but he was very productive with his bass. Rob is a great bassist...if you listen to the stuff he did previous to Metallica, it's easy to see why they recruited him.

So, basically I suppose it's all down to personal preferance. Most people seen to pick Cliff cause he was on Metallica best album, which is fair enough.

[fatbandit]

No, I pick Cliff because of his obvious talent, though to be honest, Rob is better. I respect Jason an awful lot, I think he was a *very* good player, but I think he wasn't as good for the band as Cliff (whether that was his fault or the band's remains a mystery though). Cliff may not be as good as say Victor Wooten, but hey, you see videos of him, and the control he has of his bass, the noises he could make, what he could do without thinking or looking, just going wild with his hair, and generally actually enjoying himself. Sure, Jason did that, but its nowhere near as apparent as Cliff. As I said before, Cliff as a person seals the deal for me. If ever I had an idol, or a role model (which for the most part I hate), it'd be him. Minus the drinking and pot maybe :lol:

Rob on the other hand has a very good history of music, he's had 20 more years of bass playing than Cliff had, and he has already been cited by Hetfield as being better than Newsted at creating lines, and at knowing what he is playing without being told. I also think he has very fast fingers, and a good ear for melody. Jason was far more rhythmic, while Rob has a good groove and melody. I expect great things from him. If only he didn't slap with distortion. That kills it...

Anyway, that's fro my point of view as a bass player. You may disagree :)

[ThrashMaster27]

I understand that. I always say that Cliff is a lost Lead Guitarist. The amount of Distortion that he applied to his sound, he may aswell have been one.

[BassMasterMike88]

I don't think it was just his use of distortion the made Cliff great, it was also that he refused to play just chord roots, instead he would be all over the fretboard, and he knew how to use bass wah REALLY well.

[ThrashMaster27]

That's what I mean. He didn't like to follow root notes. There's a lot of examples of it. That's why I don't think he should have been a Bass player. He seems more suited to a lead role.

[fatbandit]

So using roots = bass? Nah, don't think so.

And if you think he doesn't use roots, then listen again. He doesn't entirely in Sanitarium, Orion, Seek and Destroy and a couple of others, but he does in most every other song he played with them.

To me, he wasn't a lead player, he was an example of just another way the bass could be played. Especially at the time, he was a unique player. He still has a unique sound, even today.

[ThrashMaster27]

So using roots = bass? Nah, don't think so.

And if you think he doesn't use roots, then listen again. He doesn't entirely in Sanitarium, Orion, Seek and Destroy and a couple of others, but he does in most every other song he played with them.

To me, he wasn't a lead player, he was an example of just another way the bass could be played. Especially at the time, he was a unique player. He still has a unique sound, even today.

In most genres, most of the time, yes. It's not often where a Bassist actually contributes a lot to the writing process of a song. I'm aware of his tendencies to not stick to the norm. It's fair enough that you think he was an inventive bass player, I think that too, but I still think he would have been more suited as a Lead Guitarist. It's perhaps the fact that he had that tendency, that he created a unique style on Bass.

[fatbandit]

I agree that roots are often what the bass plays, hell, I should know! :lol:

However, I think its unfair to say 'you don't play roots, we're not letting you do bass' (bit more extreme than what you were trying to say, I know...). Dirk lance in Incubus played mostly interesting basslines, not roots. To say that he would have been best suited to a different instrument would be silly. Its the input that you get from different types of people that evolves the instrument. A drummer, for example, may add a more rhyhmic feel, while a guitarist is more melodic perhaps.

Cliff also had a classical background. I doubt sincerely he only played shred bass.

[Kurrpt]

hey can anyone hook me up with master of puppets. Im on a weird little thing where i wanna learn a bunch of metallica solos, and i dont have the track

[fatbandit]

Sure. Add me on msn dark____nation@hotmail.com (4 underscores) and you can have it. YSI smells.

[Kurrpt]

Sure. Add me on msn dark____nation@hotmail.com (4 underscores) and you can have it. YSI smells.


i dont have MSN, and my server wont allow me to install it (at work)

is there ANY way you could use yousendit or soundclick...?

[ThrashMaster27]

i dont have MSN, and my server wont allow me to install it (at work)

is there ANY way you could use yousendit or soundclick...?

If you can wait a bit, I can do it for you.

[Kurrpt]

dude im stuck in this hell hole till 5.....but i would so happy with you

[ThrashMaster27]

dude im stuck in this hell hole till 5.....but i would so happy with you

Yeah, Tell me about it mate. I was working the phones 'til 4pm. I'll try upload it as soon as possible, but I only have a 256k connection. It'll be here soon enough.

[DisposableHeroes]

It's the band that Jason was in before he joined metallica,It's supposed to be bass fueled thrash metal, I've never heard it so i dont know if that is true, so has anyone ever heard them and are they any good?

Flotsam are pretty good thrash

Ron was treated very unfairly in Metallica, i've read what he has to say

[fatbandit]

Hm. I use AIM (its chris6mm) too if that's any better for you. If not, let ThrashMaster upload it :thumb:

[ThrashMaster27]

Ok, I got MoP uploaded.

Metallica - Master Of Puppets (http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZQUELGBAS8NL2YW0GHFXQJ5Q4 )

Enjoy buddy.

[metalcritter666]

Has anyone here heard Ron McGovney...I haven't but if anyone has got any can you upload it? From what I have heard he James taught him to play bass in high school.

[wicked_child]

Has anyone here heard Ron McGovney...I haven't but if anyone has got any can you upload it? From what I have heard he James taught him to play bass in high school.

here ya go:

The Mechanix (http://hem.passagen.se/plomster/rm/mechanix-demo.ra)

[fatbandit]

Uhm, he will have played stuff like Hit the Lights pretty much as it is on Kill Em All I should think. In an interview, he said he doesn't play bass anymore, and he's not very good. I don't think he went any firther with bass after they replaced him TBH.

[!brandon]

god Metallica has got to be the most kick *** Metal/Rock band ever. =D My favorite song is Leper Messiah..

But when they released St. Anger, it completely changed their styles I think.

Should have kept the same but they're so original...that's what makes it good.

[Kurrpt]

Ok, I got MoP uploaded.

Metallica - Master Of Puppets (http://s33.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZQUELGBAS8NL2YW0GHFXQJ5Q4 )

Enjoy buddy.


hey i wanna thank you twice for this



THANK YOU




THANK YOU :thumb:


when i learn the solo, ill post if for ya..... im working on "one" taps right now

[shadow_stalker]

here ya go:

The Mechanix (http://hem.passagen.se/plomster/rm/mechanix-demo.ra)

Vocals on that sound **** to me, is that James singing?

[VicRattlehead99]

So did Dave Mustaine make the mechanix before he came to metallica?or did he come to metallica then made it with james and lars?

[Mazeppa]

Dave wrote The Mechanix when he was with Metallica. Once Dave left James changed the song a bit.

[shadow_stalker]

Changed for the better (in my god-like opinion).

[metalcritter666]

here ya go:

The Mechanix (http://hem.passagen.se/plomster/rm/mechanix-demo.ra)
That's absolutely horrible :lol: but then again it is a demo recorded in the early days...

The vocals make the song sound so bad.

Why is it tuned in F? I've found a live concert from '84 in Paris and everything is tuned to F...any reason?

Vocals on that sound **** to me, is that James singing?
Yes, yes it is.

[Joe]

Changed for the better (in my god-like opinion).

I agree

wow i haven't posted here in forever

[omegadjn]

Metallica Kicks A** because A)They Rock B)They've lasted the test of time (23 Years of Rock) and C)They're Original

[RustedPieces]

Dave wrote The Mechanix when he was with Metallica. Once Dave left James changed the song a bit.
I'm pretty sure Dave wrote The Mechanix before he joined Metallica. Read the booklet in the remastered Killing Is My Business CD by Megadeth. He talks about it in there.

[metalcritter666]

Changed for the better (in my god-like opinion).
Yeah he did, he added about 3 minutes to the song...I think the Version on the San Diego DVD is the link posted earlier.

[Joe]

Metallica Kicks A** because A)They Rock B)They've lasted the test of time (23 Years of Rock) and C)They're Original

obviously you're new, lol. welcome to the forums


i'm a little confused, so please don't flame me. I'm not really familiar with all of the tracks on Kill 'Em All (there are other albums I'd rather listen to) but I thought there wasn't a Mechanix. Isn't it named something different on KEA and then Megadeth had it as Mechanix?

[gecko5068]

hey, what do they say right before the solo in "master of puppets" I'm thinking razor burn, freezer burn, hit me, or bring the noise, but I think ill ask the pros...

[Endless Obsession]

Is it just me or does it seem like we have 5 new posters come in here everyday and post "omg metallica rowx my wurld".

[theguitarist02]

is it the rumored overload album?

better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.

[Joe]

it's just you :rolleyes: :lol:

to gecko, album it's "fix me," S&M it's "Fix me baby," and other various live concerts he might say other things, but mostly it's just fix me

[Endless Obsession]

better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.

Wow ive never heard anything like that in here before. Good call!

[Joe]

better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.

that was the most creative, original, and interesting post i have ever seen :rolleyes:

[PepsiMetal]

better not be. load and reload suck nuts. and for that matter so does st. anger. it would be nice to see them make an album in the style of Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets.

If you are expecting metallica to make something like mop or rtl, I think you should stop waiting for metallica's album. Metallica has evolved so much from those old days. I'll be happy whatever they release probably, as long as they stick to normal drums. Those drums in saint anger can get alittle annoying, but everything else is great imo. :thumb:

[Joe]

If you are expecting metallica to make something like mop or rtl, I think you should stop waiting for metallica's album. Metallica has evolved so much from those old days. I'll be happy whatever they release probably, as long as they stick to normal drums. Those drums in saint anger can get alittle annoying, but everything else is great imo. :thumb:123

The drums do get to me after awhile, but the riffs are incredible. I think the lyrics are pretty cool. The only thing I want out of this new album that I didn't get from St. Anger is solos.

[Deth]

I would be a lot happier if the songs were a little bit less streched out. They felt like 4 minute songs lasting 6 and a half minutes, if you follow me.

[Endless Obsession]

I would be a lot happier if the songs were a little bit less streched out. They felt like 4 minute songs lasting 6 and a half minutes, if you follow me.

Well thats basically what it was. And i wish that they weren as repetitive.

[Deth]

That's my point. I don't want to hear the same riff over and over. The loss of dynamics (aka soft parts) really hurt it, though I'm not sure how they would fit in with the rest of St. Anger.

[Chu]

obviously you're new, lol. welcome to the forums


i'm a little confused, so please don't flame me. I'm not really familiar with all of the tracks on Kill 'Em All (there are other albums I'd rather listen to) but I thought there wasn't a Mechanix. Isn't it named something different on KEA and then Megadeth had it as Mechanix?
You mean The Four Horsemen?

1. Hit The Lights
2. The Four Horsemen
3. Motorbreath
4. Jump in The Fire
5. Anesthesia (Pulling-Teeth)
6. Whiplash
7. Phantom Lord
8. No Remorse
9. Seek and Destroy
10. Metal Militia

I think that's track listing for Kill 'em All, maybe not though, it's just off the top of my head.

Edit: Gocaps! Where's my review of Battery :(

[vashts80]

Yes, that is the track list, and yes, there WAS a Mechanix. It was Mechanix up until Dave left, then Metallica's version became the Four Horsemen with an added 3 minutes or so and the lyrics were totally changed. Dave's version in Megadeth was/is still his original version of Mechanix.

[dorokusai]

123

The drums do get to me after awhile, but the riffs are incredible. I think the lyrics are pretty cool. The only thing I want out of this new album that I didn't get from St. Anger is solos.

Yeah, I agree. St. Anger was a pretty good album, despite what so many say, but it just doesn't have that metallica feel without a few good face-melting solos.

[heavy metal kid]

Oh, crap, sorry guys. I really didn't mean to post that one twice, I must have accidently double clicked it.

dude, you just triple post, next time use the edit button.

the original version of the mechanix is also on the "no life till leather" demo.

[ThrashMaster27]

Yes, that is the track list, and yes, there WAS a Mechanix. It was Mechanix up until Dave left, then Metallica's version became the Four Horsemen with an added 3 minutes or so and the lyrics were totally changed. Dave's version in Megadeth was/is still his original version of Mechanix.

Almost. They already remade Mechanix before Dave left the band. He also wrote all of the new parts that occur on the The Four Horsemen and a lot of the new lyrics.

[vashts80]

Uhm...no...Dave has said countless times that it was Mechanix up until he left and then they changed it after he left.

[metallicapeppermint27]

is Mechanix any good compared to Four Horseman?

[FlyingPaul_83]

The four horsemen is way better IMO

The lyrics are better,They added more to the song and The stuff they addded to the song is hood stuff.

The only thing better about the mechanix, is that it is faster.

[ThrashMaster27]

Uhm...no...Dave has said countless times that it was Mechanix up until he left and then they changed it after he left.

He was asked about it on the Megadeth forums. I'll find the actual quote he used and post it in a second. Anyway, he may not have recorded it with them or even played it live BUT he did write the new parts and some of the new lyrics...

close, but no cigar.

i wrote all of the mechanix when i was in panic.

i took it with me to metallica.

i wrote the new middle part to FH.

most of the new lyrics to FH were mine.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

He posted that on the official Megadeth forum.

[PepsiMetal]

He posted that on the official Megadeth forum.

Cool. Hetfield should post on tallica forums. Or does he? :confused:

Ahh, he should just come here and post in this thread. :thumb: I heard that guy from static X posts regularly on their forums. That's kinda neat.

[theguitarist02]

that was the most creative, original, and interesting post i have ever seen :rolleyes:
obviously my post was an opinion.

If you are expecting metallica to make something like mop or rtl, I think you should stop waiting for metallica's album. Metallica has evolved so much from those old days. I'll be happy whatever they release probably, as long as they stick to normal drums. Those drums in saint anger can get alittle annoying, but everything else is great imo. :thumb:
i've pretty much given up on them by now. it's basically no shredding or solos, and that's a lot of what i liked about metallica. but, there's always a chance.

[metalcritter666]

He posted that on the official Megadeth forum.

I highly doubt it was him.

[ThrashMaster27]

I highly doubt it was him.

If you were actually a member of the Megadeth forums, you'd know that it was him. He has his own spot where he speaks to everyone. Glen Drover even has his own Guitar thread where he helps Guitarists with Megadeth songs and any other concerns they have.

[Apocalyptic Raids]

I had always thought that Hetfield wrote those extra sections in The Four Horsemen. Shows what I know :lol:

I like Mechanix a little better, I just feel that verse riff seems unnatural at the tempo Metallica played it compared to Megadeth. Both version have their merits though.

EDIT: Here is a video of Metallica playing Mechanix with Dave. http://megadeth.uw.hu/videos.html. Its the one at the top I think.

[ThrashMaster27]

I had always thought that Hetfield wrote those extra sections in The Four Horsemen. Shows what I know :lol:

I like Mechanix a little better, I just feel that verse riff seems unnatural at the tempo Metallica played it compared to Megadeth. Both version have their merits though.

EDIT: Here is a video of Metallica playing Mechanix with Dave. http://megadeth.uw.hu/videos.html. Its the one at the top I think.

Yeah, I'm convinced that if the Megadeth version was better produced then it'd take the cake. I love both versions, so it isn't really a concern.

[metalcritter666]

If you were actually a member of the Megadeth forums, you'd know that it was him. He has his own spot where he speaks to everyone. Glen Drover even has his own Guitar thread where he helps Guitarists with Megadeth songs and any other concerns they have.
Oh right, I thought you meant the megadeth thread :lol:

[fatbandit]

Hmm. The bass is better in the Metallica version. Its more basic in the Mechanix that was posted a page or so ago. That comes from Cliff being better than Ron though (which is why the link was requested in the first place :lol: ). However, if FH was played at that tempo, it would be far better. The speed is rather funkay on that version.

[PepsiMetal]

i've pretty much given up on them by now. it's basically no shredding or solos, and that's a lot of what i liked about metallica. but, there's always a chance.

I dont know man. I mean every other album except st. anger had solos/shredding. They even add solos to st. anger in concerts. I mean it's not like their last 5 albums have had no solos or such. But kirk pretty much has most solos for st. anger they just for some weird reason didn't want to use them on the official album. Saint Anger would be so badass if they used normal drum sounds and added a few solos. :naughty:

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Well like I've said in previous posts, Trujillo is into thrash and old-skool so hopefully he can bring some form of classic influence to the band.

[Joe]

obviously my post was an opinion.

i've pretty much given up on them by now. it's basically no shredding or solos, and that's a lot of what i liked about metallica. but, there's always a chance.
i know your post was an opinion, it's just funny considering almost everyone else has said it.

and why give up? there's another album coming out soon and lars, we think, finally realizes he's stupid.

[Joe]

You mean The Four Horsemen?


Edit: Gocaps! Where's my review of Battery :(

Yes! I thought it was that...

I haven't been on in days... I'll work on a review

[Endless Obsession]

Well like I've said in previous posts, Trujillo is into thrash and old-skool so hopefully he can bring some form of classic influence to the band.

What you just said is basically saying that Trujillo is influenced by bands like metallica, so hopefully he can bring some Metallica influenced stuff into Metallica.

[Joe]

What you just said is basically saying that Trujillo is influenced by bands like metallica, so hopefully he can bring some Metallica influenced stuff into Metallica.

Which is good, because anyone that's influenced by Metallica and any band similar is most likely to be influenced by '80s Metallica.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

What you just said is basically saying that Trujillo is influenced by bands like metallica, so hopefully he can bring some Metallica influenced stuff into Metallica.
Not just Metallica, bands like Testament, Exodus, Saxon, Motorhead, etc.

[Joe]

Not just Metallica, bands like Testament, Exodus, Saxon, Motorhead, etc.

Yea, he said bands like Metallica. But you're right, maybe it will help bring back some old Metallica sound.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Or maybe they will create a new sound, new-skool heaviness (nu-metally, like St Anger) with Old-skool speed and rhythm. :amaze:

[metallicapeppermint27]

since everyone loves the old metallica on kill em all, rtl, mop, and ajfa, then y did they change???? or is this a question that everyone is wondering about...

[theguitarist02]

I dont know man. I mean every other album except st. anger had solos/shredding. They even add solos to st. anger in concerts. I mean it's not like their last 5 albums have had no solos or such. But kirk pretty much has most solos for st. anger they just for some weird reason didn't want to use them on the official album. Saint Anger would be so badass if they used normal drum sounds and added a few solos. :naughty:

In my opinion the music has gotten worse, on a steady decline since the Black Album, when they started to go mainstream, and I think St. Anger is their all-time low. Not just the lack of shredding/solos, but the tunes themselves. (Again, just my thoughts.) But, like some other people have said, Trujillo comes from a thrash/heavy metal background and might bring a nice new perspective to the band.

[Joe]

I'm perfectly happy shredless, I like Kirk's soulful solos so much better. Yes, the music has declined, but we'll see.

to metallicapeppermint: Bob Rock.

We'll have to wait and see what the new album is like. I'm hoping it's similar to the Black Album

[heavy metal kid]

i'm also hoping at least something similar to the black album, but i think is gonna be faster, robzilla is the main cause.

[Joe]

I'm optimistic because Lars realizes that they need solos and according to Kirk he hasn't seen fingers move that fast and play so well since Cliff. So for all you bass lovers, I'm thinking you'll hear some bass on the KEA/RTL/MOP level, and not the St. Anger level.

[Endless Obsession]

Eh i could care less about the bass.