Metallica Inc.

[JACKROXYOU]

not what they want

but what they can

[Endless Obsession]

not what they want

but what they can

Do u not like them?

Or are u saying they are too old to create a good album.

[Joe]

They are too old to make an album that had any intensity like RTL and MOP had, which is why we're all speculating a Black Album re-make basically. I think they can do some songs the style of the 80's but I think they're getting old.

Back to a few posts ago, Metallica should not be creating music for what people want to hear. That's when a band becomes a "sell-out." A band should create music for the artistic expression, not for the public opinion

[Endless Obsession]

Back to a few posts ago, Metallica should not be creating music for what people want to hear. That's when a band becomes a "sell-out." A band should create music for the artistic expression, not for the public opinion

Well i love metallica and almost everything they have ever made. And i really hate to say it, but they are sell outs thanks to Bob Rock. And so thats y i really hope that they got rid of him and it wasnt some kind of ****ing april fools joke.

[Chu]

did that guy say they were better with bob?
I didn't say they were 'better' with Bob, and it made perfect sense if you read it.
I meant exactly as gocaps said, they are too old to make 'good' music anymore, so I think them losing Bob Rock this late into their careers was a bad idea.
If anything, they should have lost Rock during or before Load.

[Joe]

^thank you. Losing Bob Rock wouldn't do anything big for they're career. They are getting old everyone, and they won't be able to produce music as well as they did 20/25 years ago no matter who the producer is. They're good friends with Bob which means they still have a producer which means that there is still Metallica music.

Don't worry everyone, you'll like the new cd. I bet on it.

[Sandtrap]

I was reading the Kill em' all Booklet and I saw this line about thanking all the ragers theyve played with...is that pernounced:

rag-ers or rage-ers...ragers like people who have rags or rage-ers like people with rage?

Can someone help me out with this termanology? thanks!

[Chu]

Don't worry everyone, you'll like the new cd. I bet on it.
Actually, I'm kinda thinking, if people hype it up to be this huge masterpiece, and what they come out with doesn't satisfy people, then it's going to be a St. Anger all over again. (Except St. Anger's hype was from Metallica themselves, saying the album would be a return to thrash days (Which it really was, compared to Load, but not so much compared to Master of Puppets), so people listenned to it, heard a new style and were like "This is ****", thus begun the St. Anger bashing, which if any of the self-titled Metallica fans truly listenned to, they would understand that it is good, it was made during a time, the closest the band has ever been to breaking up, Metallica are definately one of the giants in the music industry, so something that can make them consider breaking up, is obviously huge. Yet for some strange reason, people don't realise this, and compare this work, to previous work).

[Joe]

Very true. I'm excited just because I know that because of the bashing of the last album that this one will be better, or they wouldn't even bother with putting it out. I know that St Anger is good. It's a lot better than many people think. Yes I miss guitar solos, and yes the songs are long, but there isn't anything wrong with the riffs. In fact, they're incredible. Yes I do know it won't be as thrashy as Master of Puppets, but I also know that it won't suck

[Chu]

I wasn't talking about you, so much.
I trust your opinion, you seem a very open-minded person.

[Sandtrap]

I was reading the Kill em' all Booklet and I saw this line about thanking all the ragers theyve played with...is that pernounced:

rag-ers or rage-ers...ragers like people who have rags or rage-ers like people with rage?

Can someone help me out with this termanology? thanks!

can someone help me out!!!!!

[Joe]

I wasn't talking about you, so much.
I trust your opinion, you seem a very open-minded person.

I know, it was in general. and thanks

and to sandtrap, i have no idea. sorry

[Sandtrap]

should I start a thread about it?

[Chu]

should I start a thread about it?
Probably not, just wait until the boards become more active and more people log on.

[Sandtrap]

Probably not, just wait until the boards become more active and more people log on.

sorry too late

[Chu]

Heh, it's cool.
I just think it's gonna provoke some flaming.
You might get some help there, but at the cost of some people throwing in flames...

[FlyingPaul_83]

^thank you. Losing Bob Rock wouldn't do anything big for they're career. They are getting old everyone, and they won't be able to produce music as well as they did 20/25 years ago no matter who the producer is. They're good friends with Bob which means they still have a producer which means that there is still Metallica music.

Don't worry everyone, you'll like the new cd. I bet on it.



ok :thumb:

[willis2441]

hahahahahahahahaha yea!!!! :lol: later bob!!!!
cheers
:chug: :chug:

[vashts80]

ROFLCOPTER. Too bad you all believed it.

April Fools!

Posted by Crazy Metal

Thanks in part to the All Metallica staff for putting together the fake news article "Metallica and Bob Rock Part company" To assure all you Metallifans out there, the news is false and we thank everyone for participating in it and reading it on April Fool's Day

I have received several emails and people believed the news we posted. Everyone at the All Metallica staff apologize to those who were tricked by our joke, but at least we can say it worked!

-Crazy Metal (Webmaster)

[FlyingPaul_83]

so.......

This is a question for poeple who have seen metallica live.

Has anyone seen them play all of Ride the lightning? not in a medley

[blue3]

Okay then..

[blue3]

I haven't seen Metallica live :(

[FlyingPaul_83]

I haven't seen Metallica live :(


Me neither, but i'd like to know if anyone has because that would be nice to see kirk play that whole solo live.

[Chu]

Talking about James' solos.
He does the first part of the last solo in Creeping Death, well at least on Cunning Stunts, I believe.

[vashts80]

He playes the Nothing Else Matters solo as well, as if nobody knew that. lol.

[fatbandit]

Any news on this online band? At any rate, I'll be off now.

[DisposableHeroes]

so.......

This is a question for poeple who have seen metallica live.

Has anyone seen them play all of Ride the lightning? not in a medley

Yes, they also did Fight Fire With Fire that night

[DisposableHeroes]

Am i the only one who thinks this supposed ditching of Bob Rock is made up? I mean, it would be on the Metallica site and blabbermouth would be on it like flies to ****

[Mazeppa]

Am i the only one who thinks this supposed ditching of Bob Rock is made up? I mean, it would be on the Metallica site and blabbermouth would be on it like flies to ****
It is made up, scroll up and check post #19277.

NP: Dream Theater-Lifting Shadows Off A Dream

[DisposableHeroes]

Aha

I wonder how many people believed it

[munky_magik]

Most people would, I think.

[metalcritter666]

ROFLCOPTER. Too bad you all believed it.

April Fools!

Posted by Crazy Metal

Thanks in part to the All Metallica staff for putting together the fake news article "Metallica and Bob Rock Part company" To assure all you Metallifans out there, the news is false and we thank everyone for participating in it and reading it on April Fool's Day

I have received several emails and people believed the news we posted. Everyone at the All Metallica staff apologize to those who were tricked by our joke, but at least we can say it worked!

-Crazy Metal (Webmaster)
Bastard! i knew it was too good to be true....

[DisposableHeroes]

Most people would, I think.

Not I, probably because i'm constantly on the Metallica site and blabbermouth

[metalcritter666]

http://www.metmp3.com/Paris_23_11_84.htm

click here^^^^

this is awesome

[DisposableHeroes]

Found that site a while ago, glad to see the MP3's are actually working again

[Deth]

Not all of the mp3's are working, many of the later shows aren't doing anything for me.

[DisposableHeroes]

Arrrgh the later ones arent working, but the early ones are. Well at one point none of them worked

[Mazeppa]

*downloading bass solo*

[wrongnote85]

i was able to find the complete metal hammer concert form 85 not to long ago. it's the concert featured in cliff em all where they play horsemen, seek, and fade i believe. really really cool. i'd never heard them play ride or heros live before and they where both amazing.

[LarsAgi007]

i was able to find the complete metal hammer concert form 85 not to long ago. it's the concert featured in cliff em all where they play horsemen, seek, and fade i believe. really really cool. i'd never heard them play ride or heros live before and they where both amazing.

Its sounds totally amazing :D

[Sandtrap]

I was reading the Kill em' all Booklet and I saw this line about thanking all the ragers theyve played with...is that pernounced:

rag-ers or rage-ers...ragers like people who have rags or rage-ers like people with rage?

Can someone help me out with this termanology? thanks!

[shadow_stalker]

I was reading the Kill em' all Booklet and I saw this line about thanking all the ragers theyve played with...is that pernounced:

rag-ers or rage-ers...ragers like people who have rags or rage-ers like people with rage?

Can someone help me out with this termanology? thanks!

I think it means grumpy pricks that get annoyed at everything...if thats what you were asking about...

[Sandtrap]

I think it means grumpy pricks that get annoyed at everything...if thats what you were asking about...

I dont know...in the booklet it says 'thanks to "Trauma" and "Exodus" for supplying new Ragers.

That ofcourse refering to Cliff and Kirk at the time...but you could be right. hwo would you pernounce it?

[shadow_stalker]

I think its rag-ers, but that just be the way it comes out with my accent.

[Sandtrap]

I think its rag-ers, but that just be the way it comes out with my accent.

so have you heard it used in context with rock n roll?

[sydbickle]

Mettallica has just lost touch with their roots and by that I mean they are not playing in the vein of their thrash metal influencers such as Venom, Mottorhead, and the such. So I couldn't quite less give a **** if they gave Bob Rock the ole' heave ho. If it's for the better fine just don't give us more commercialized crap rock.

[shadow_stalker]

so have you heard it used in context with rock n roll?

I think i have but im not sure.

[Sandtrap]

Mettallica has just lost touch with their roots and by that I mean they are not playing in the vein of their thrash metal influencers such as Venom, Mottorhead, and the such. So I couldn't quite less give a **** if they gave Bob Rock the ole' heave ho. If it's for the better fine just don't give us more commercialized crap rock.

dude I just want to know what that word is and how its pernounced cuz I was gonna use it in a song....nothing more nothing less.

[shadow_stalker]

dude I just want to know what that word is and how its pernounced cuz I was gonna use it in a song....nothing more nothing less.

I think he was making a general statement on how he doesnt like how metallica sound now.

[Sandtrap]

I think he was making a general statement on how he doesnt like how metallica sound now.

well they used this term in 83...so I dont know why that would become a factor. I dont like metallica no either...Im trying to bring back the old 80s metal, shred. I just wanna know how to pernounce this word so I can put it into a song and bring back the 80s shread. I JUST WANNA KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS WORD!!!! ****...not that hard!

[munky_magik]

This one word itself isn't going to revitalise 80's shred metal.
Just decide on a pronounciation yourself and use it in one of your songs.

[Sandtrap]

This one word itself isn't going to revitalise 80's shred metal.
Just decide on a pronounciation yourself and use it in one of your songs.

thats true, I know what you mean. but id like to get my roots right.

[Joe]

is there even such a word?

[lilmetallica]

is there even such a word?
i think if you add an -ers to any word it makes a new word

[Joe]

that's a good point...

ok so back to metallica. i made this cd up in new york at FYE and they wouldn't let me put any metallica on it!

[lilmetallica]

y not? oh and if any one knows how do you construct a real good solo i cant figure out how

[Joe]

i don't know. i went to put it on the cd and it wouldn't let me burn. i got a bunch of other things, but no metallica

[Huber]

Whatever your making the CD with hates Metallica.

[lilmetallica]

did they schedule a release date on their new album yet?

[metalcritter666]

did they schedule a release date on their new album yet?
no. thats still months away yet. they're still recording or writing i should think. probably summer 2006. most people think spring 2006 but i reckon itll somehow be delayed...

btw...anyone clicked on the link i posted earlier...anyone know why they play FFWF in F?

[LarsAgi007]

no. thats still months away yet. they're still recording or writing i should think. probably summer 2006. most people think spring 2006 but i reckon itll somehow be delayed...

btw...anyone clicked on the link i posted earlier...anyone know why they play FFWF in F?

Yes, i feel there may be a delay, I know they are working on the Metallica computer game at the moment also. I know these band games have not really been much of a success in the past, but i do feel this one might just be half decent, But even if its not i will still get it just to have it lol, Any idea what consoles it is due to be released on anyone??? ex: XBox,PS2,N64?? Who knows???
I have not found any information on the new album as of yet, for example. what genre of music it will be, or even roughly the release date for it, I guess its mainly rumours.

[metalcritter666]

btw...larsagi007...where you from?

[LarsAgi007]

btw...larsagi007...where you from?

I am from the England, UK

[Chu]

that's a good point...

ok so back to metallica. i made this cd up in new york at FYE and they wouldn't let me put any metallica on it!
What's FYE? (Sorry, I'm Australian)

[metalcritter666]

I am from the England, UK
where in england?

[LarsAgi007]

Chester, Cheshire, You live nearby??

[metalcritter666]

Chester, Cheshire, You live nearby??
nah, i live near sunderland

[Sandtrap]

I just heard Mechanix when dave was with metallica...its like a recoding from 82. And it sounds great! As much as I love Kirk Im wondering what metallica would have been like with Mustaine if they had let him stay. I really think Mechanix is a kick *** song.

[willis2441]

so that bob rock thing was a hoax?

[Sandtrap]

so that bob rock thing was a hoax?

no he did join the band before robert and after james...

[Joe]

What's FYE? (Sorry, I'm Australian)

For Your Entertainment. It's a CD store

and what Bob Rock hoax? Bob Rock came in for the Black Album and has done each album since

[JACKROXYOU]

he left correct?

[Chu]

Nope, it turns out to be n April Fools'.
What a ****en crock of **** though, seriously, they better get new material..

[willis2441]

he left correct?
that was the hoax,he didnt leave

[Endless Obsession]

That seriously sucks. Dang. And it makes me look like an idiot cause i was telling everyone how he left. I feel stupid.

[Huber]

For Your Entertainment. It's a CD store

and what Bob Rock hoax? Bob Rock came in for the Black Album and has done each album since

There was an April Fool's joke saying he left.

[willis2441]

That seriously sucks. Dang. And it makes me look like an idiot cause i was telling everyone how he left. I feel stupid.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Huber]

/votes for Kirk Hammet in guitar poll

[RIP Dime]

does anybody know if metallica released any albums before kill em all? i mean like as a local band on a small label

[willis2441]

does anybody know if metallica released any albums before kill em all? i mean like as a local band on a small label
are you dr.paul?

[RIP Dime]

are you dr.paul?
i AM the doctor, at your service...but you didnt answer my metallica question

does anybody know?

[FlyingPaul_83]

No life till leather

[willis2441]

i AM the doctor, at your service...but you didnt answer my metallica question

does anybody know?
did your other screenname get banned?

[RIP Dime]

did your other screenname get banned?
idk but i never keep the same name. i just make one with my name in it to get started and change it to one i really want after a day or two

[RIP Dime]

No life till leather
wow that is rare they dont even have it on ebay

[willis2441]

idk but i never keep the same name. i just make one with my name in it to get started and change it to one i really want after a day or two
then youll always be a nOOb!:thumb:

[RIP Dime]

then youll always be a nOOb!:thumb:
whats wrong with bein a noob? theres a first time for everything till you get broken in

[willis2441]

whats wrong with bein a noob? theres a first time for everything till you get broken in
might as well build up some respect!

[FlyingPaul_83]

I just heard Mechanix when dave was with metallica...its like a recoding from 82. And it sounds great! As much as I love Kirk Im wondering what metallica would have been like with Mustaine if they had let him stay. I really think Mechanix is a kick *** song.


The four horsemen is better IMO. It has better lyrics. I read somewhere that that the mechanix is about When Dave mustaine was a machanic and when he had sex in the girls car with her

[ThrashMaster27]

The four horsemen is better IMO. It has better lyrics. I read somewhere that that the mechanix is about When Dave mustaine was a machanic and when he had sex in the girls car with her

Yes, it's something along those lines. I'd pick The Four Horsemen over Mechanix, cause of the bad production on the latter. I prefer Mechanix live.

[Abbath]

Just a question:

Does Metallica use the Line 6 Podxt Pro? I think I saw it in Some Kind Of Moster...just wondering.

[RIP Dime]

The four horsemen is better IMO. It has better lyrics. I read somewhere that that the mechanix is about When Dave mustaine was a machanic and when he had sex in the girls car with her
now THATS my kind of job...70 bucks an hour and sex in a car all day

[Huber]

The Four Horsemen is better than Mechanix, but Mechanix is still an awesome song.

[ESPguitars]

y not? oh and if any one knows how do you construct a real good solo i cant figure out how

if you want a simple solo

you can start from the penatonic scale and change it up, add bends and hammer-ons and such

[metalcritter666]

load/reload.

discuss.

[RIP Dime]

load/reload.

discuss.
i think i liked reload better. fuel was a good, catchy song and the unforgiven II is good too
but kill em all/ride the lightning/master of puppets/and justice for all are all still better than the loads i think

[Sandtrap]

The Four Horsemen is better than Mechanix, but Mechanix is still an awesome song.

I think four horsemen is a betters song...but for some reason I would rather hear and play mechanix. I dont know why though...

[Deth]

I liked ReLoad more as well. The two albums get to bad a rep and both have some very good songs on them.

[Musicless]

i like the solo in enter sandman

[Mazeppa]

I don't own Load or Reload, but the songs I have heard from those albums I didn't really like :-/

NP:Pantera-13 Steps To Nowhere

[RIP Dime]

NP:Pantera-13 Steps To Nowhere
GOOD SONG!!! :thumb:

[Deth]

NP: Opeth-The Moor

Better song.

[RIP Dime]

NP: Opeth-The Moor

Better song.
never heard it i wouldnt know
NP: damageplan-soul bleed

[Mazeppa]

Opeth-The Moor is an awesome song. I would agree that it's better. In fact, I will listen to Sill Life later.

[metalcritter666]

this is metallica thread, people.

[RIP Dime]

this is metallica thread, people.
oh i didnt realise that :confused: loll just kidding
NP: any metallica song on an album before garage inc...

[fenderbender89]

has metallica ever made a song called melbourne?
i hear it was played live in the 2004 Album LIVE IN ZARAGOZA 19/06/2004
i have no idea someone tell me if there playing new **** live in concerts for the new album.
if they are hell yeah! :chug:

[RIP Dime]

has metallica ever made a song called melbourne?
i hear it was played live in the 2004 Album LIVE IN ZARAGOZA 19/06/2004
i have no idea someone tell me if there playing new **** live in concerts for the new album.
if they are hell yeah! :chug:
i dont know if they have a song by that name but since it was played live it could very well be a cover...or just a new song they wrote as you said

[fenderbender89]

see i dont know because there is a tab of the solo to that song on mxtabs.
so it could be a cover but i dont know right now :confused:

[RIP Dime]

hmmm sorry i cant help i usually know this stuff but not this time :angry:

[fenderbender89]

no problem :wave:

[Sandtrap]

all I know about melbourne is its a city...I think in australia...but im not sure either.

[PepsiMetal]

Yes Melbourne is a city in Australia. I dont think they made a song melbourne but it was a solo just as they have tab at taborama.

http://www.taborama.com/archive/tab.php?tid=80529&aid=1&a=Metallica&t=Melbourne%20(live%20solo)&i=1

[Sandtrap]

what do you think the chances of a band like metallica would make it today?

[Daven]

really poor if they keep the actual style. They should retake the old style and play solos

[fatbandit]

BTW, Sandtrap, my guess is rage-ers rather than rag-ers. Watch Cliff 'Em All, and Hetfield introduces Cliff as the "major rager on the four stringed mother****er", ie, with major and rager rhyming.

[LarsAgi007]

BTW, Sandtrap, my guess is rage-ers rather than rag-ers. Watch Cliff 'Em All, and Hetfield introduces Cliff as the "major rager on the four stringed mother****er", ie, with major and rager rhyming.

??? What! lol, I love it on Cunning Stunts where they play fuel for the first time, they say that they don't even have a name for the song yet lol! :eek:
And about that April Fools thing! :o :lol: I must say whoever thought that one up did a good job lol :smoke:

[metalcritter666]

what do you think the chances of a band like metallica would make it today?
at the moment i wouldnt think theyd have a chance. but if metallica (and for that matter all the heavy 80s US bands ie. megadeth anthrax) went back to their older sounding stuff on the next album they might have a chance because it would be popularized again.

[munky_magik]

Metal is going to become popular again anyway.

[led_zep_luvr]

Metal is going to become popular again anyway.


WHEN?!?!?!?!?! i can't wait.

[Six Foot Revolver]

WHEN?!?!?!?!?! i can't wait.
it's coming back into trend

[fenderbender89]

??? What! lol, I love it on Cunning Stunts where they play fuel for the first time, they say that they don't even have a name for the song yet lol! :eek:
And about that April Fools thing! :o :lol: I must say whoever thought that one up did a good job lol :smoke:

LOL OMG i thought that was for real!!. when james got almost smacked in the face and Kirk was so close from getting hit.
At the end i saw the special features and saw that it was set up.
Well done!!
:p

[Joe]

It sucks though. Although I like it though, the posers start coming in by the millions instead of like the tens. It's like rap and hip hop these days. There are so many posers it drives the real people crazy. What's it going to be like now? I can't imagine anyone except for like me and maybe another 1 or 2 % of my school liking metallica

[led_zep_luvr]

It sucks though. Although I like it though, the posers start coming in by the millions instead of like the tens. It's like rap and hip hop these days. There are so many posers it drives the real people crazy. What's it going to be like now? I can't imagine anyone except for like me and maybe another 1 or 2 % of my school liking metallica


yea thats true.

[Sandtrap]

really poor if they keep the actual style. They should retake the old style and play solos

yeah I mean if they did the kill em all style music!

[Sandtrap]

BTW, Sandtrap, my guess is rage-ers rather than rag-ers. Watch Cliff 'Em All, and Hetfield introduces Cliff as the "major rager on the four stringed mother****er", ie, with major and rager rhyming.

hey thanks alot! Im gonna start using that word!

[lilmetallica]

i figured thats how its pronounced to gocaps99 -- it would suck horably especially with the people who think they know everythin and any thin about metallica and such

[Sandtrap]

i figured thats how its pronounced to gocaps99 -- it would suck horably especially with the people who think they know everythin and any thin about metallica and such

I know what you mean...its means something to like a certian band or sports team threw the thick and the thin...but then if that band or sports team comes back into fashion theres always gonna be people jumping on the "band"wagon because they wanna be cool. I hate that too! Ive played shows before and at the end of the gig everyone pretends there way into the music I played and all that becuase they want me to give them something or they want to meet the guys in the band or they want me to come jam with them and they just plain dont know anything about they kinda music I play up in the stage...they just think its cool that im fast, or that there are a bunch of chics back stage or something like that...which really is not cool. I even knew this girl one time that wanted to get with me so she tried to convince me that she like metallica and she listened to metallica because she saw me on stage playing some licks...which was super not cool!

But on the other hand I would love to see teh 80s speed/shred metal come back because I hate no other music more than the type that is commercialy active right now. I think all the nu-metal, black metal, all the heavy metal stuff and lighter rock right now is about the worst music this planets seen in the last...I dont know how many years. Probably since the beatles.

[lilmetallica]

AMEN!!!!! :thumb:
MY one friend (who shal remain nameless) had a metallica cd and thought he knew every thin til i asked if he heard their new song his reply the sandman one :amaze:

[Sandtrap]

AMEN!!!!! :thumb:
MY one friend (who shal remain nameless) had a metallica cd and thought he knew every thin til i asked if he heard their new song his reply the sandman one :amaze:

hahahaha

well that is the newest metallica I can stand...but not there newest song by far.

[LarsAgi007]

AMEN!!!!! :thumb:
MY one friend (who shal remain nameless) had a metallica cd and thought he knew every thin til i asked if he heard their new song his reply the sandman one :amaze:

LMAO, The amount of people I know who have said, I am a big Tallica fan My favourite song is ''The One'' By Metallica, I just laugh in their face and walk off! :smoke:

[vashts80]

"I think all the nu-metal, black metal, all the heavy metal stuff and lighter rock right now is about the worst music this planets seen in the last...I dont know how many years. Probably since the beatles." -- WTF? Black metal pwns j00, foo'.

(Not sarcasm.)

Venom was around back in '79, and Bathory was around in '84, right after the thrash metal scene exploded in California. I didn't know that it was ****ty music.

[RIP Dime]

hahahaha

well that is the newest metallica I can stand...but not there newest song by far.
i must agree :chug:

[metalcritter666]

http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/images/justice/justice143.jpg

[RIP Dime]

http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/images/justice/justice143.jpg
wow thats scary

[Sandtrap]

http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/images/justice/justice143.jpg

wow me and my band should do that for a gig.....not

[Sandtrap]

"I think all the nu-metal, black metal, all the heavy metal stuff and lighter rock right now is about the worst music this planets seen in the last...I dont know how many years. Probably since the beatles." -- WTF? Black metal pwns j00, foo'.

(Not sarcasm.)

Venom was around back in '79, and Bathory was around in '84, right after the thrash metal scene exploded in California. I didn't know that it was ****ty music.

I was refering to the current metal that is reffered too as black metal. the stuff were they sing so weird you couldnt understand what there saying(literaly)unless you read the lyrics off the page while listening to the song. I dont even know if I could follow along under those cirumstances.

[lilmetallica]

some of the metallica songs are like that the first time you listen to them but most you can understand

[Sandtrap]

some of the metallica songs are like that the first time you listen to them but most you can understand

yeah! I had trouble understand mechanix the first time I heard it...but that could have been the quiality. but anyways now I can sing along with it. but do you know the bands Im talking about were you could guess what word they just said?

[lilmetallica]

i dont know the band names butt ive heard the songs and it sounds like they're just sayin syllables or word fragments er somethin which do you like better puppetz(entire cd) or RTL (entire cd)

[Sandtrap]

i dont know the band names butt ive heard the songs and it sounds like they're just sayin syllables or word fragments er somethin which do you like better puppetz(entire cd) or RTL (entire cd)

Im gonna have to go with Ride The Good Old Lightning. I really like what they were doin in 81, 82, and 83 and I would give anything to get my hands on some free demo downloads from those time periods...but anyway I like RTL because kirk does some really kick *** things on that album. Trapped Under Ice has a Hammett buffet and I really love Fade To Black(should have done more like it in the 80s). Puppets was good, dont get me wrong, but I dont think it was anything compared to what they were doing in 84 and before. My favorite album overall Kill em all and any recordings before that!

[Joe]

some of the metallica songs are like that the first time you listen to them but most you can understand

yea most of the words you can understand, and once you read the lyrics all the words make sense.

I'm going to say Ride the Lightning. Ride the Lightning has my absolute favorite song, Fade to Black, and I think the guitar work is better. Yes Master of Puppets has some great guitar work, but I just like RTL a lot better. Master of Puppets was better recorded however

[JACKROXYOU]

yea most of the words you can understand, and once you read the lyrics all the words make sense.

the award for "post that makes you say DUH!!" goes to gocapps

[RIP Dime]

yea most of the words you can understand, and once you read the lyrics all the words make sense
, and once you read this post nothing makes sense...

[JACKROXYOU]

ahh rip dime hows it goin

[FlyingPaul_83]

i dont know the band names butt ive heard the songs and it sounds like they're just sayin syllables or word fragments er somethin which do you like better puppetz(entire cd) or RTL (entire cd)



you can tell by my avatar :cool:


I think it's better than puppets because all the songs on their are some oft the greates songs ive heard in my life. Fade to balck, call of ktulu, creeping death, all incredible songs. But you cant forget all the other songs because they are all great

[RIP Dime]

ahh rip dime hows it goin
im doin mighty fine :chug: and yourself

[willis2441]

you can tell by my avatar :cool:


I think it's better than puppets because all the songs on their are some oft the greates songs ive heard in my life. Fade to balck, call of ktulu, creeping death, all incredible songs. But you cant forget all the other songs because they are all great
justice beats em all IMO :thumb:

[Endless Obsession]

justice beats em all IMO :thumb:

I agree, a lot of people who are classic Metallica fans (not there new stuff) seem to not like it as much. I dont know much about bass so i wouldnt be able to comment on how that changed, but other than that it certainly sounds like there most advanced album musicially.

And it has everything you want.

1. Straight up Metal - Blackened
2. Softer song that is amazing - One
3. Gloomy - The frayed ends of sanity
4. Thrash/Speed - Dyers Eve.

[Sandtrap]

justice beats em all IMO :thumb:

dont know about that one...it lacks a non-political track. and one were you can tell kirk is a god. Justice was alright...but all the tracks sound teh same to me. you can hear ten metallica songs and tell which one if off jusitce just by the way it sounds. but everyone can have an opinion...i have no problems with that.

[Sandtrap]

I agree, a lot of people who are classic Metallica fans (not there new stuff) seem to not like it as much. I dont know much about bass so i wouldnt be able to comment on how that changed, but other than that it certainly sounds like there most advanced album musicially.

And it has everything you want.

1. Straight up Metal - Blackened
2. Softer song that is amazing - One
3. Gloomy - The frayed ends of sanity
4. Thrash/Speed - Dyers Eve.

Ok here I got with RTL:

1. Straight up Metal - Fight Fire With Fire
2. Softer song that is amazing - Fade To Black
3. Gloomy - Call Of Ktulu, For Whom The Bell Tolls
4. Trash/Speed - Trapper Under Ice

[FlyingPaul_83]

I agree, a lot of people who are classic Metallica fans (not there new stuff) seem to not like it as much. I dont know much about bass so i wouldnt be able to comment on how that changed, but other than that it certainly sounds like there most advanced album musicially.

And it has everything you want.

1. Straight up Metal - Blackened
2. Softer song that is amazing - One
3. Gloomy - The frayed ends of sanity
4. Thrash/Speed - Dyers Eve.


I love justice, just not as much as RTL.

It's probably my third fav, right behind puppets

One of my favorite songs on that cd is harvester of sorrow

[willis2441]

dont know about that one...it lacks a non-political track. and one were you can tell kirk is a god. Justice was alright...but all the tracks sound teh same to me. you can hear ten metallica songs and tell which one if off jusitce just by the way it sounds. but everyone can have an opinion...i have no problems with that.
well there are some really good tunes on justice
1:blackened-badass intro,good lyrics,good drums
2:...and justice for all-good beggining roff,soft,then into a hard riff,love the solo
3:eye of the beholder-pretty goos song,some times when i listen to it i mistake to for justice,but its a good song
4: one-flawless song,all i can say
5:shortest straw-good thrashy tune,badass guitar riff,good drums
6:harvester of sorrow:i really like this song,good tom part in the beggining,good solo
7:the frayed ends of sanity: one of the weaker tracks on justice,but still ghood,i like the speaker switching in the beggining
8:to live is to die-a good instrumental,their best,tribute to cliff,r.i.p.
9:dyers eve-a very good song,kind of shows the strengths of hammet,hetfield,and ulrichs songwriting ability,very passionate song

over all,id give justice a 9/10

[Sandtrap]

well there are some really good tunes on justice
1:blackened-badass intro,good lyrics,good drums
2:...and justice for all-good beggining roff,soft,then into a hard riff,love the solo
3:eye of the beholder-pretty goos song,some times when i listen to it i mistake to for justice,but its a good song
4: one-flawless song,all i can say
5:shortest straw-good thrashy tune,badass guitar riff,good drums
6:harvester of sorrow:i really like this song,good tom part in the beggining,good solo
7:the frayed ends of sanity: one of the weaker tracks on justice,but still ghood,i like the speaker switching in the beggining
8:to live is to die-a good instrumental,their best,tribute to cliff,r.i.p.
9:dyers eve-a very good song,kind of shows the strengths of hammet,hetfield,and ulrichs songwriting ability,very passionate song

over all,id give justice a 9/10

I agree it has some good tunes...but some of them all sound the same.

[larsROCKS]

Ok here I got with RTL:

1. Straight up Metal - Fight Fire With Fire
2. Softer song that is amazing - Fade To Black
3. Gloomy - Call Of Ktulu, For Whom The Bell Tolls
4. Trash/Speed - Trapper Under Ice

I agree RTL has everything you want, but so does ajfa not to mention master and kea hav alot of great songs as well. There all got there own styles so you cant really compare them. and with the load reload thing id rather load but the first 3 songs on reload are awsome

[LarsAgi007]

I agree RTL has everything you want, but so does ajfa not to mention master and kea hav alot of great songs as well. There all got there own styles so you cant really compare them. and with the load reload thing id rather load but the first 3 songs on reload are awsome

Yes, its kinda like a mix of songs, so people of all genres would probably like at least one song from the Ride the Lightning or Master Of Puppets :D

[vashts80]

I was refering to the current metal that is reffered too as black metal. the stuff were they sing so weird you couldnt understand what there saying(literaly)unless you read the lyrics off the page while listening to the song. I dont even know if I could follow along under those cirumstances.

Burzum is like that. Mayhem, for the most part, is like that. Darkthrone is like that on A Blaze. I don't really see the problem.

[Huber]

I prefer Ride The Lightning for an "everything you want album". It has catchy songs, beautiful but metal songs, and straight up kick your *** thrash.

[ThrashHead]

I prefer Ride The Lightning for an "everything you want album". It has catchy songs, beautiful but metal songs, and straight up kick your *** thrash.

I'm somewhat agree. RTL is my fav. Metallica album... next to AJFA.

[PepsiMetal]

and one were you can tell kirk is a god.

Good?


I would agree and say that AJFA is the best metallica album up to date. AJFA song is **** awesome. Along with one, blackened, to live is to die, etc... All songs on that album are great. ;)

[Chu]

Ride The Lightning is number 1
Kill 'em All/Master of Puppets, I'd probably say Kill 'em All's better, but not by much.
...
Hell, I say St. Anger's better then AJFA.

[Mazeppa]

Hell, I say St. Anger's better then AJFA.
No way, you really prefer St. Anger to AJFA?

NP: Dream Theater-Erotomania

[fatbandit]

MOP
RTL
...AJFA
KEA

There's the official order for fatbandit's choice, though the top three are almost interchangable. I always change my mind about which is best.

[Mazeppa]

For me the best are always just the first four albums, I can't decide on one album.

[planet_caravan]

The newer stuff of Metallica isnt half as good as the old stuff (this has been said before) but i talk to people and they say they love metallica and i go fav album and they say sumin like St Anger like that is their worst album. My favourite album would be either The "black" album or ride the lightning

[fatbandit]

Psh, I love the Black Album and Loads. But if I'm in a '**** **** up' kind of mood, nothing helps better than Justice. If you're listening to the later stuff, listen to it for what it is (finely crafted music, that is very listenable and all round quality stuff), not what it isn't. If you want to listen to old school thrash, go listen to KEA.

Still, one of my favourite albums is S&M. And one of my favourite tracks off of that is Hero of the Day, so its not as if the Load/Reload stuff is bad.

[planet_caravan]

Still, one of my favourite albums is S&M. And one of my favourite tracks off of that is Hero of the Day, so its not as if the Load/Reload stuff is bad.
Load is probably my favourite album and i am unfortunate enough to not have bought the S&M album but i will get around to it.

[planet_caravan]

oh and i meant like Reload and St Anger more St Anger cause i reakon they sold out...i should get the album and listen to it first tho lol before i start making these claims...reload does have fuel on it tho and the memory remains so that gives it credibility

[Kyle]

The newer stuff of Metallica isnt half as good as the old stuff (this has been said before) but i talk to people and they say they love metallica and i go fav album and they say sumin like St Anger like that is their worst album. My favourite album would be either The "black" album or ride the lightning
this post made me laugh :lol:

I would Probably say:
RTL
KEA
MOP
...AJFA

My top three are almost interchangable and i even go through phases when ..and justice for all sneaks in aswell. I think Ride The Lightening is the best because it still has that awesome heavy sound but shows evidence of the band maturing (fade to black). Although Master of Puppets also does this aswell and includes my favorite metallica song (Sanitarium), it just seemed to me that it didn't extend enough on RTL or take them to any new levels.
The reason fo my placement of KEA is that it is the bands debut and is flawless from start to finish, which is some acchievement. I probably prefer the more matured metallica albums and songs but KEA is metal from start to finish and is great when in a ****ty mood.

[planet_caravan]

i get it

[dougefresh]

Load is probably my favourite album and i am unfortunate enough to not have bought the S&M album but i will get around to it.

:lol: Alright.

[Kyle]

why
sorry, it is not your fault. It's just the way you worded it I think. And also you claim not to like the way the band have "sold out" and then say the black album is your favorite. It is not a problem that the black album is your favorite, its just a contradiction because it is widely considered this is when the band hit the mainstream.

[metalcritter666]

my favourite albums:

AJFA
MoP
RTL
Black
KEA

I put the black album in there too cause i think the black albums although less thrashy its still some of their greatest work. i think its better than kill em all cause kill em all had the least interesting guitar solos out of them all.

[Mazeppa]

I like the solos of KEA personally.

NP:Pantera-The Underground In America

[Deth]

I think the solos on KEA are too bluesy and pentatonic, and you can tell Kirk hasn't developed his own style yet.

[Mazeppa]

He had a simple style sure, but it fittted well with KEA.

NP:Meshuggah-I

[Deth]

You can tell Kirk learned alot between KEA and RTL.

[metalcritter666]

btw creeping_deth congratulations on 666 posts.

[LarsAgi007]

You can tell Kirk learned alot between KEA and RTL.


Your at Hells Doors!!! :evil: (Starts playing ''For Whom The bell Tollz'' :D

[Deth]

What?

Wait, I just got it.

[Mazeppa]

btw creeping_deth congratulations on 666 posts.
Yesterday when a couple people went off topic, you had to remind us that it was a metallica therad. Do I need to remind you?

NP:Machine Head-Davidian

[ThrashMaster27]

I think the solos on KEA are too bluesy and pentatonic, and you can tell Kirk hasn't developed his own style yet.

All he did was fiddle with Daves leads. They're hardly different. I'm not really suprised there's a change from Kill 'Em All to Ride The Lightning as they weren't his solos on Kill 'Em All.

[Sandtrap]

i heard metallica doin the blitzkrieg and I think lars drum work on that track is kick ***! sorry to change the subject...but that song is really rocking..though I never heard the blitzkrieg version I dont know how it could be much better.

[metalhed-05]

i thought it was kick a** too i really loved it. it was f***ing awsome.

[Master Of Nebulah Frost]

All he did was fiddle with Daves leads. They're hardly different. I'm not really suprised there's a change from Kill 'Em All to Ride The Lightning as they weren't his solos on Kill 'Em All.

I would say Hammett is better at creating solos when compared to Mustaine's. They're more memorable.

[FFbassist26]

the solos on KEA are just insane. i dont knnow how kirk can remember all those solos he wrote. even thinking it up and writing it down would have to be hard enough

[ThrashMaster27]

the solos on KEA are just insane. i dont knnow how kirk can remember all those solos he wrote. even thinking it up and writing it down would have to be hard enough

They're Daves ****ing solos! dammit, doesn't anybody read.

[FFbassist26]

I would say Hammett is the better musician when compared to Mustaine.
i have to agree with you on that one. mustaine did do some crazy stuff with megadeth though

[ThrashMaster27]

I would say Hammett is the better musician when compared to Mustaine.

Not as an all round Guitarist. Perhaps Kirk is a better Lead guitarist, but that's about it.

[Master Of Nebulah Frost]

I edited my post but you guy's quoted too **** fast. No biggy.

[Kyle]

yeah well i still think Hetfield > Hammett > Mustaine

[ThrashMaster27]

yeah well i still think Hetfield > Hammett > Mustaine

Explain why, otherwise your post is void.

[mr black]

oh and i meant like Reload and St Anger more St Anger cause i reakon they sold out...i should get the album and listen to it first tho lol before i start making these claims...reload does have fuel on it tho and the memory remains so that gives it credibility
massive thumbs down

[metalcritter666]

Yesterday when a couple people went off topic, you had to remind us that it was a metallica therad. Do I need to remind you?

NP:Machine Head-Davidian
its called being friendly, dude.
anyway, this isnt the same thing. i only reminded people yesterday because there were about 5 posts about pantera.

kirk actually didnt have much to do with the solos on KEA, it was mostly Daves and james' work. however he did get lessons from joe satriani after KEAs release and this is partly where he got his style from.
btw.......anyone heard any hammett-era Exodus?

[ThrashMaster27]

James didn't do any solos on Kill 'Em All, aside from the first one on The Four Horsemen. I also thought Kirk was taught by Satch before he joined Metallica.

I've not heard anything Hammett-Era Exodus, aside from Impaler.

[mr black]

nah i havnt but ive really wanted to hear some. and yeah hammet got the lessons after KEA

[metalcritter666]

James didn't do any solos on Kill 'Em All, aside from the first one on The Four Horsemen. I also thought Kirk was taught by Satch before he joined Metallica.

I've not heard anything Hammett-Era Exodus, aside from Impaler.
i thought james wrote some...........

but yeah. satch taught hammett between KEA and RTL.

[DisposableHeroes]

btw.......anyone heard any hammett-era Exodus?

Yup, its a bit more hard rock sounding i think. That i can remember of course

[fenderbender89]

Did Kirk ever make an album with Exodus before he went with Metallica?

[DisposableHeroes]

Nope

[BassMasterMike88]

kirk actually didnt have much to do with the solos on KEA, it was mostly Daves and james' work. however he did get lessons from joe satriani after KEAs release and this is partly where he got his style from.
btw.......anyone heard any hammett-era Exodus?[/QUOTE]

That would make sence, no offence to any megadeth fans in here but i think kirks post-KEA solo;s are way more complex then Dave/James material.

[Sandtrap]

does anyone know a dvd were I can get a whole lot of 80s footage...I really wanna dvd but I really dont want to have to watch the new ****. Is Cliff em' all a good buy for old footage?

[fenderbender89]

Can someone tell me when Metallica is going to play for their 2005 tour.

[Josh]

so did Mustaine play on the actual recordings for KEA, or did Hammett?

[btoto]

Kirk

[btoto]

That would make sence, no offence to any megadeth fans in here but i think kirks post-KEA solo;s are way more complex then Dave/James material.

Where can I hear Exodus era Hammett? I'd really like to have some early bootlegs. Because he didn't record with them. If I'm not wrong Bonded By Blood came out in 1985.

[DisposableHeroes]

To btoto: If you wanna hear some, add me on MSN and i'll send you some live bootlegs

[Huber]

Can someone tell me when Metallica is going to play for their 2005 tour.

I think their going to be in the studio and working on their album for the remainder of 2005

[btoto]

DiposableHeroes:
------------------

I'm on Dial-up 56. It'll take me hours to recieve them. Where did you download them??

Are they with Kirk on guitar???

[DisposableHeroes]

Kirk's on guitar, i downloaded from one of those yousendit thingums so i doubt it will still be available. Give me your e-mail and i'll send them via e-mail, they're in a folder

[LarsAgi007]

I think their going to be in the studio and working on their album for the remainder of 2005

Yes, the album will probably come out around March Next year... But if they could they may try and release it for christmas

[Kyle]

Kirk
Except Mustaine is on the first two songs...i think.
to sandtrap - If you buy Cunning Stunts DVD it has alot of the old stuff except it does have about 3 songs off load/re-load if i remember: fuel, aint my bitch. hero of the day. Towards the end they do a Ride the lightening / Kill 'em all medly though which is very very cool and consists of about 5 songs.

[lilmetallica]

james was the only singer right

[Joe]

Kirk

uh huh...

i'm pretty sure the album came out before dave was kicked out. dave did most of that album

and no tour this year, or at least i seriously doubt it. they're in studios

[Joe]

james was the only singer right

except on a few songs during Live Sh*t, yes he was/is

[Kyle]

james was the only singer right
yup.
But Kirk did every song on Kill 'em all except the first two.im pretty sure. but Dave wrote i all, ahh i dont even know myself anymore

[lilmetallica]

i cant wait for their new album hope it doesnt suck

[Mister_Che]

and no tour this year, or at least i seriously doubt it. they're in studios

Maybe during the end of the year while they promote their new album.

[FlyingPaul_83]

i cant wait for their new album hope it doesnt suck



It wont. None of their albums have sucked, so i doubt this will

[Kyle]

yeah it definately won't suck, but i am very interested to where it is gona go?
It wont be like St Anger because i doubt very much that they would do another non-stop aggressive record. They wont go back to their old style because it will look like they are going backwords or giving in. I do hope Kirk puts a bit of effort into this one though, He barely made any worthwhile contributions musicallt to St Anger

[lilmetallica]

It wont. None of their albums have sucked, so i doubt this will
this is true but i meant i hope its better than St. Anger just wosrded it wrong sorry

[PepsiMetal]

this is true but i meant i hope its better than St. Anger just wosrded it wrong sorry

I like st. anger more than load/reload. I dont really care what metallica releases, like he said all of their albums have been great. Some better than the others obviously. They can't have every single album be as great as each other. It would be pretty stupid that way.

[DisposableHeroes]

I reckon Rob will bring a certain groove to the band, but hopefully not overdo it too much

[LarsAgi007]

I reckon Rob will bring a certain groove to the band, but hopefully not overdo it too much

Yes, I do agree, Just look how much Metallica's style has changed with the different Bassists, Cliff Days.... Jason Days... And Bob Rock Days, i am sure the rob days will be pretty awesome :D

[metalcritter666]

yeah it definately won't suck, but i am very interested to where it is gona go?
It wont be like St Anger because i doubt very much that they would do another non-stop aggressive record. They wont go back to their old style because it will look like they are going backwords or giving in. I do hope Kirk puts a bit of effort into this one though, He barely made any worthwhile contributions musicallt to St Anger
what do you mean kirk didnt have much to do with it? he co-wrote every song? he had a few solos but lars and kirk didnt like them with the drop C tuning.

Originally Posted by LarsAgi007
Yes, I do agree, Just look how much Metallica's style has changed with the different Bassists, Cliff Days.... Jason Days... And Bob Rock Days, i am sure the rob days will be pretty awesome
I have a feeling Rob dislikes the st. anger stuff, but i remember him saying him in an interview its gonna be heavy (then again most of em are)

[lilmetallica]

what

[PepsiMetal]

what do you mean kirk didnt have much to do with it? he co-wrote every song? he had a few solos but lars and kirk didnt like them with the drop C tuning.

Im pretty sure it had nothing to do with the tuning. I remember on SKOM lars said solos were classic and he wanted something new. Kirk actually wanted solos on the album.

[metalcritter666]

Im pretty sure it had nothing to do with the tuning. I remember on SKOM lars said solos were classic and he wanted something new. Kirk actually wanted solos on the album.
nope, it was definately because of the tuning. kirk said it himself in an interview.

[lilmetallica]

how do you pronounce -ktulu

[Mazeppa]

ka-two-loo, that's how I say it

[Sandtrap]

To btoto: If you wanna hear some, add me on MSN and i'll send you some live bootlegs

hey count me in too...whats you screen name?

[willis2441]

got AIM?

[metalcritter666]

how do you pronounce -ktulu
kuh-too-loo

[Sandtrap]

got AIM?

yeah. Im HalvettesEld

[willis2441]

im willis2441 if any one wants to have a metallica convo or give me some bootlegs

[Deth]

What if they pull an Opeth and do a mellow album and a heavy album. I think that would be awesome.

[ytsedrummer]

But that would just be copying Opeth. And then if they DID do that, everybody would be bitching and complaining that Metallica copied Opeth. Metallica should just do their own thing.

That only worked with Deliverence and ****ation and I think it should stay that way.

[RiceMonster]

But that would just be copying Opeth. And then if they DID do that, everybody would be bitching and complaining that Metallica copied Opeth. Metallica should just do their own thing.

That only worked with Deliverence and ****ation and I think it should stay that way.
It could still be mellow and not sound like Opeth you know.

[metal_milita]

btw, I made a post a while back that I was inspired by MOP to write a song similarly structured (not intentionaly, but I realized it later)
here it is
http://s27.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0X8W8ZMV16C60YXH6SPHW0EWZ

[Huber]

That's incredibly similar to MOP

[metal_milita]

That's incredibly similar to MOP
ya sorta made me really unproud of that song all of a sudden because I was wondering why it sounded so good to me. The actual music is not similiar, but the structure is almost a complete rip off

[Endless Obsession]

What if they pull an Opeth and do a mellow album and a heavy album. I think that would be awesome.

Yeah, but not make it to much like Opeth, so they dont sound like posers.

[dementedbassist]

Robert Trujillo is the best bassist ever.

Look at avatar.

[Leper]

He's definitely not the best ever but he's pretty **** good.

[blue3]

Yeah he's a great bassist

[hammet_ownz]

fast fingers. dear god hes quick. battery <faints>

[DisposableHeroes]

nope, it was definately because of the tuning. kirk said it himself in an interview.

Actually, and in this is in his own words "It would take away from the callaborative nature of the songs"

To sandtrap: It's suicidalmonkeybutler@hotmail.com, i didnt come up with it so dont give me those looks :p

[Kyle]

what do you mean kirk didnt have much to do with it? he co-wrote every song? he had a few solos but lars and kirk didnt like them with the drop C tuning.
I just think that his presence isn't felt on St Anger. You can hear the drums, rythem and bass guitar really loudly but Kirk just seems crowded out. I think alot of it comes from the powerful new sound in the album and perhaps he just isn't a strong enough character to let himself be heard. I'm pretty sure Kirk wanted solos in that album, but he seemed to get persuaded otherwise.

[metalcritter666]

Actually, and in this is in his own words "It would take away from the callaborative nature of the songs"

To sandtrap: It's suicidalmonkeybutler@hotmail.com, i didnt come up with it so dont give me those looks :p
that, and the tuning.

[vashts80]

fast fingers. dear god hes quick. battery <faints>

Cliff played that with fingers as well...it's not actually that hard to train your fingers to be faster.

Edit: This isn't to bash Rob btw, Robzilla is my inspiration besides Steve Harris. However, people give Rob credit for playing Battery with fingers when Cliff did it too. :x