Metallica Inc.

[\m/Pete\m/]

^^you mean your ghost?

[meta guitar's ghost]

^^you mean your ghost?
Yeah, I'm in the forest of doom or something. :rolleyes: Oh well

[Six Foot Revolver]

The cheek of it :eek:

rant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
can i borrow som of your metallica albums
Jake says:
which one?
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
so i can copy them on 2 my media player
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
all of them if u can
Jake says:
umhmmm
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
a few at a time
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
if u dont mind
Jake says:
hmmmm
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
plz
Jake says:
I don't have all there albums on disk though
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
wich ones
Jake says:
kill 'em all, ride the lightning, master if puppets, ...and justice for all, black album and download 2004
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
that wil do
frant tik tik tik tik tik tik tock says:
wil u bring them 2morrow

[\m/Pete\m/]

what?

[Joe]

what?

lol that was an interesting post MXican

[Six Foot Revolver]

It is a convo I just had on MSN

[PepsiMetal]

It is a convo I just had on MSN

Uhh, download 2004? :confused:

Is that bootleg recording or official release? I got NEM live vid and it's pretty good.

[Six Foot Revolver]

Uhh, download 2004? :confused:

Is that bootleg recording or official release? I got NEM live vid and it's pretty good.
It's a bootleg

[Leper]

It is a convo I just had on MSN

Tell that mooch to go out and buy the albums :lol:

[PepsiMetal]

Tell that mooch to go out and buy the albums :lol:

If that mooch was any smart, he could just go ahead and download any song/album/etc. he wants without begging. :lol:

[Leper]

If that mooch was any smart, he could just go ahead and download any song/album/etc. he wants without begging. :lol:

Maybe he has dial-up like me :upset: in which case it would be easier to borrow/buy the albums.

[Joe]

oh man i hate dial up... it was awful when i had kazaa. but i got rid of kazaa and got dsl :D

[Leper]

oh man i hate dial up... it was awful when i had kazaa. but i got rid of kazaa and got dsl :D

Ya i hate it with a passion but unfortunately there's nothing i can do about it because dsl isn't available in our area yet for some reason :angry:

[Joe]

Oh I don't think this topic has been discussed. What is your favorite riff? Not like the whole song, like a few seconds of guitar or bass or drums. My favorite would have to be the seconds and solo right after the main solo in Sanitarium

100th post! :D

[metal guitar III]

Oh I don't think this topic has been discussed. What is your favorite riff? Not like the whole song, like a few seconds of guitar or bass or drums. My favorite would have to be the seconds and solo right after the main solo in Sanitarium

100th post! :D
Battery
metal guitar is back again :wave:

[SKoRioN]

What is your favorite riff?
Tough one, if I gave it some more thought I'd probably think of something different but I love the beginning part to RTL.

[Joe]

I'm going to go with fade to black. directly before the last solo. o and congrats to tallica666 on his 100th

[JACKROXYOU]

favorite riff again?

disposable heroes

[Carlos Santana]

anyone but me noice that Kirk stutters alot?

[metal guitar III]

anyone but me noice that Kirk stutters alot?
I havn't noticed him stutter, but then he doesn't talk much.

[Carlos Santana]

I havn't noticed him stutter, but then he doesn't talk much.
i was watching this interview on him behind the scenes of the FRANTIC video and he stuttered

[JACKROXYOU]

i was watching this interview on him behind the scenes of the FRANTIC video and he stuttered

yea he aint no politition

[Leper]

Why'd you change your name Metal Guitar?

[Carlos Santana]

yea he aint no politition
good point.

[metal guitar III]

Why'd you change your name Metal Guitar?
I was banned :-/

[Joe]

anyone but me noice that Kirk stutters alot?

oh yes! there was an interview at sundance film festival about SKOM and he stuttered so much

[bigpossum93]

Oh I don't think this topic has been discussed. What is your favorite riff? Not like the whole song, like a few seconds of guitar or bass or drums. My favorite would have to be the seconds and solo right after the main solo in Sanitarium

100th post! :D

of course for whom the bell tolls right before the first verse!

[Leper]

I was banned :-/

:confused: for what??!

[Joe]

:confused: for what??!

usually you can check the site forums and theres a thread, but whichever mod banned him forgot

[metal guitar III]

:confused: for what??!
Earlier there was this game thread in the pit started by a mod. The rules were that you could spam the thread as much as you wanted, but if your spam post arrived within 2 mins after the mods random posts you got banned. It was really fun, I had 2 accounts banned thanks to that game.

[\m/Pete\m/]

fav riff

the riff before the solo on Damage Inc.

that is metal at its finest

[Joe]

sounds like a fun game...of course everyone got banned. i thought it was cool the guy that did


-

[LarsAgi007]

anyone but me noice that Kirk stutters alot?

He doesn't really stutter... Just takes the time to choose words carefully :D

[LarsAgi007]

sounds like a fun game...of course everyone got banned. i thought it was cool the guy that did

Cool :) my brain is awash lol

[Darkness]

Does anyone know if Metallica ever played To Live Is To Die live before?

[Juicy_Forlorn]

I think they played part of it on one of the Live Sh*t DVD's.

[willis2441]

The Puppets solo aint that hard: infact its probably one of Kirks easyest.
are you kidding?

[Joe]

Does anyone know if Metallica ever played To Live Is To Die live before?
i don't think they ever have. i'm watching live sh*t now

[Joe]

are you kidding?
either he's kidding or can't play it right

[willis2441]

either he's kidding or can't play it right
123 yea,stupid noob

[Joe]

right before puppets, first dvd, they play some of to live or to die

[hatchedinalab89]

"You know a band is great, when they can play slow, and still blow you the **** away with talent."

Ok, unfortunately, i just registered, and don't have time to look through 638 pages of posts, but i will put my two cents in. Metallica - Greatest band, EVER. Who else do you know can make every generation go crazy for them? My grandmother, at 72 or so, listens to Metallica - Black Album, and loves it. I gave her a CD of a few hits, S&D, nothing else matters, master of puppets, sanitairum, etc..., haven't heard from her in about a week since then.

I think everyone's problem with St. Anger is that they used non-standard tuning. I haven't even tried playing any St. Anger songs, I'd much rather play standard tuning songs, because they just plain sound better. Sad But True, one full step down tuning, was a great song, and it's still a great song, with non-standard tuning, so maybe that's not everyone's problem. I heard Frantic in concert a few months ago, and I'll tell you, it ****cken rocked, and so did Sad But True, I personally don't mid the different tuning.

Now, for S&M, has anyone actually sat down, and listened to this CD all the way through? It's a collection of alot of Metallica's greatest songs, but with extra talent in the background. James - Best metal voice in music. Lars - One of the best drummers Iv'e heard. Kirk - I don't give a **** who their original guitarist was, he plays the solos live just as good as I heard on the CD. Rob - Yeah, he was recruited after a long time, but who cares? Would Metallica recruit a bassist that wasn't the best available. (The YES bassist is already taken unforunately.) And this dude can play, when I saw him in concert, he soloed with a distorted bass, and he was ****en jammin'.

Lastly.... how many bands try to imitate them? I realize that classic rock band to ever play set the stage for Metallica, and other 80's bands, but they just have such a unique sound. I was driving, and "The Hunter of Sorrow" came on. I'd never heard it, but I heard the first few notes, and I was like, METALLICA. Then I heard Jame's voice to confirm it. "Often imitated, never duplicated." How many new bands were at the T.V. Metallica Ultimate Tribute? They idolize this band. Even Linkin Park, Korn, and Blink182 were there, and they sound nothing like them, but their who they listen to when they were my age. (Yeah I'm only 15.) Godsmack, System of a Down, Tool, sound like Metallica, but not quite the same.

For the greatest songs Iv'e heard, I would have to say...

Enter Sandman (the song that got me into Metallica.)
Master of PUppets (the song i hated for a year, then liked it for some reason...)
One (no explanation needed, that last "Darkness, imprisoning me... part is just insane though.)
Ride the Lightning (the hardest solo Iv'e ever heard, even my guitar instructor was dumbfounded by it.)
Wherever I May Roam (this started me off with my guitar, I was only playing intro's until I heard this song.)

I'm also curious, how many people here have seen them live?

[Joe]

great post noob! and yes your exactly right about new bands

and my fav is fade to black

and i saw them live this last tour, it was amazing

ok, adios. yo veo un DVD de Metallica llama "Live Sh*T." Yo volvere en (awhile)

i think that means i am watching a metallica dvd called live ****. i will return in awhile...
(im practicin spanish, tests comin up)

[hammet_ownz]

hunter of sorrow? havent heard that one lately :)

nah havent seem em live, gotta travel to the mainland when they come to australia :(

[hatchedinalab89]

@hammet-AH, not hunter of sorrow, harvester of sorrow. just a rookie mistache lol. you definetly need to see them though. hopefully they'll tour again some time soon, they hadn't come to south florida for about five years, and there was no way i was gonna miss them.

[hammet_ownz]

heh lol

we are so disadvantaged down here in tas cos its a 400 dollar plane trip over to melbourne beofre you even get in

[KillemAllforOne83]

I've seen them live in 04. Best ****in show ever. I still can't belive i got to see my favorite band at the age of 11. My favorite song live was master of puppets

[ThrashMaster27]

My problem with St Anger was that it sucked, not the different tuning. I listen to plenty of bands that don't play in Standard E and it doesn't bother me.

[hammet_ownz]

nah they wont come back here until at least 2007 after they do the new album
so i hope they do the big day out then cos it would kick a lot of ***, the line up with them the other year was awesome, like Muse and shiit

[vashts80]

My favorite riff on guitar would probably be right before the Fade to Black solo; bass (since I am a bassist :x) is either the intro to Bells or the intro to My Friend of Misery

[Leper]

I saw them live on their latest tour, definitely kicked ***. After the concert i thought to myself "Wow, that's the first metal concert i've ever been to and i bet i'll never top it..that is until they come back :thumb:

[blue3]

I wish I saw them live

[playguitar]

My problem with St Anger was that it sucked, not the different tuning. I listen to plenty of bands that don't play in Standard E and it doesn't bother me.
123.

[Leper]

I wish I saw them live

never fear, there is still time :thumb:

[willis2441]

metallica kicks live

[Lightning_Rider]

i wish i saw them live 2

[Lightning_Rider]

By the way does anyone know if they are planning another album or another tour? What's up with them lately lol

btw, I think SKOM DVD was great.

[FlyingPaul_83]

either he's kidding or can't play it right


He's probably talkin about the solo in the slow part of the song cause that solo aint too hard

[FlyingPaul_83]

hello? anybody here?

[FlyingPaul_83]

"Death Greets me warm now i will just say goodbye" .......goodbye

[PepsiMetal]

hatchedinalab89,

Obviously lars isn't one of the best drummers, although he has good stage presence. And of course kirk and james aren't the best guitarists nor metal vocalist, but hey, it's all subjective. I dont like when people say Jimi Hendrix is the best guitarist because to many people he's not, etc.

[Huber]

The skill level of all the members of the band have been talked about a ton. Especially Lars. Let's try and get off of Lars for awhile atleast.

[metallicafan501]

there is no best guitarist

[\m/Pete\m/]

i am the best guitarist ever

[Leper]

IMO James is the best metal vocalist ever.

[blue3]

I like James voice a lot

[Po0osH]

Yeah i like his too, but I don't think he is the best, but very good.

[supra_speed]

This is my list of albums best to worst, imo:

Ride the Lightning
...And Justice for All
Master of Puppets
Black Album
Kill Em' All
Reload
Load
Garage Inc
St. Anger


Mine:

...And Justice for All
Master of Puppets
Ride the Lightning
Kill Em' All
Garage Inc

The rest I hate. So Unmetallica-ish. Or so un-thrashy metal

[supra_speed]

Yeah i like his too, but I don't think he is the best, but very good.

i agree. my fav is tom araya from slaya (slayer) :evil:

[Leper]

Yeah i like his too, but I don't think he is the best, but very good.

Just for fun who do you think has the best metal voice? (singing, not just growling as in death metal)

[Po0osH]

Just for fun who do you think has the best metal voice? (singing, not just growling as in death metal)
phil anselmo of pantera.

He has perfect clean vocals

He can hit high notes

He screams his *** off (Listen to the great southern trendkill)

[ArcLite]

For straight up singing, no one but Russell Allen of Symphony X for me.

[ThrashMaster27]

Rob Halford, without a doubt.

[Leper]

He screams his *** off (Listen to the great southern trendkill)

GREAT song :thumb:

[SKoRioN]

Off the top of my head I can't really think who I would say the best metal vocalist would be...I'll give it a thought.

Although I do think James has an awesome voice.

[metal guitar III]

phil anselmo of pantera.

He has perfect clean vocals

He can hit high notes

He screams his *** off (Listen to the great southern trendkill)
My choice aswell :cool:

[hatchedinalab89]

yea, you said lets get off lars, but one more thing about him.

@pepsi, the only other drummer that i can think of that's better is the rush drummer, surrounded 360 degrees in drums. If he isn't one of the best, then who is? maybe the best drummer isn't the one who can hit the snair the fastest, or make a drumrole out of a double bass pedal, (which lars is pretty good at by the way.), but maybe it's who can correspond with the music the best, and with For Whom The Bell Tolls, and the ending of all their live songs. With Lars just beating the **** out of his bass pedals, I'd have to say he's one of the best out there.

Btw, does anyone listen to System Of a Down? Theyre drummer sounds like he's playing live all the time for some reason, anyone noticed?

[Chu]

Mike Portnoy?

[wrongnote85]

the best drummers in my book are lars, gar samuleson from the first megadeth lineup, as well as nick menza. then neil perdt from rush and stuart copeland from the police. i know that's a far cry from metal, but the dude is ****ing killer! anyone agree?

[Chu]

I agree Nick Menza, Gar Samuelson and Neil Peart are good, there's probably no 'best' drummer though.

[metal guitar III]

I agree on Nick Menza

[wrongnote85]

i guess there are no police fans on the metallica thread

[metal guitar III]

Police fan?

[wrongnote85]

yeah man the police. stings band before sting? so lonely, every little thing she does is magic, material sun? im avoiding saying every breath you take for a reason, but yeah the ****ing police are awesome! very musical and just really cool in my book. check em out.

[Six Foot Revolver]

yeah man the police. stings band before sting? so lonely, every little thing she does is magic, material sun? im avoiding saying every breath you take for a reason, but yeah the ****ing police are awesome! very musical and just really cool in my book. check em out.
They're alright. I have heard better bands

[Leper]

yeah man the police. stings band before sting? so lonely, every little thing she does is magic, material sun? im avoiding saying every breath you take for a reason, but yeah the ****ing police are awesome! very musical and just really cool in my book. check em out.

They're fun to listen to, lots of very catchy tunes..Sting's voice is fun to imitate too. :D

[JACKROXYOU]

sting?

[Leper]

sting?

You've never heard of sting?

[\m/Pete\m/]

why is sting being talked about?

i'll go back

[Leper]

It's not really important, just a little side-discussion.

[\m/Pete\m/]

well heres a better one, anyone else notice that Pantera's ****ing Hostile sounds a lot like Metallica...even the solo sounds like it Metallica

Im not implying that they stole a song, but merely that its very Metallica-esq

[JACKROXYOU]

yea i did

[Joe]

so wait what's going on with sting?

[\m/Pete\m/]

nothin...someone just brought up the police and thats where sting came from

[hatchedinalab89]

back to metallica... wut does everyone think of* S&M?

[Lateralias]

I was thinking of buying a Metallica DVD, looking for more of a older Metallica era type music on the DVD.. but I have none, so can anyone suggest one?

[Chu]

Cliff 'em All.

[Lateralias]

That was quick, alrighty.. thank you

[Iplaythegeeeeetar!]

That was quick, alrighty.. thank you
also...live sh*t. it's post-cliff tallica, but they play a lot of the old stuff because it was in like 1992 and 1989.

[Thor]

also...live sh*t. it's post-cliff tallica, but they play a lot of the old stuff because it was in like 1992 and 1989.
They play the old stuff because thats what the majority of Metallica fans like. My friend went to their concert in Atlanta a few months ago and he said they only played like 1 or 2 new songs.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Which DVD is the bestto buy for me? ( i like there old **** more than their new ****)

[Carlos Santana]

ok earlier somone said that Jamyz had to do the solos on Kill'em All due to the recording studio limit or something...Is that true, not saying anything bad bout hetfields playing but im suprised if he did all the solos.

[FlyingPaul_83]

Which DVD is the bestto buy for me? ( i like there old **** more than their new ****)



oh. i just read the other posts. sorry

[Leper]

ok earlier somone said that Jamyz had to do the solos on Kill'em All due to the recording studio limit or something...Is that true, not saying anything bad bout hetfields playing but im suprised if he did all the solos.

I've heard that James even recorded some of the bass in some songs on kill em all..

[Carlos Santana]

I've heard that James even recorded some of the bass in some songs on kill em all..
NO WAY!!!!!!!....seriously though cause this guybehind a few pages said that and a bunch of guys started believing it...

[Leper]

NO WAY!!!!!!!....seriously though cause this guybehind a few pages said that and a bunch of guys started believing it...

No i read this a long time ago. Like a year or so. I think i might've read it in a metallica timeline of their career..not sure though.

[Joe]

not possible. no way james did them.

did i miss something? is there a reason people spell his name "jamyz???"

[Leper]

not possible. no way james did them.



The solos?..or the bass? Because im like 90% sure that james did some solos on kill em all, and about 70% sure that he did some bass..

[Joe]

The solos?..or the bass? Because im like 90% sure that james did some solos on kill em all, and about 70% sure that he did some bass..

Really? With such a great bassist like cliff? I know he did guitar solos, but bass?

[Joe]

so which songs did he do?

16000th post

[hatchedinalab89]

Iv'e never hear of James playing any bass solos, and if I remember correctly, Cliff the bassist for Kill em all, and I'm sure theyd find a way to fit him into a studio, even if there were studio limits. Just curious, do they record all different instruments at different times? Like drums, then guitar, then bass, then vocals? something like that?

[Carlos Santana]

he can shred?

[Joe]

no james can't. he's not a bad soloist but he's not a shredder

[willis2441]

didnt lars and james do a drum battle on live **** and james wins?

[6stringslinger]

I read that Cliff was the most "technically advanced" member of the group and Cliff taught James a lot of theory. Kirk said that Cliff could play some guitar and was actually becoming a good guitar player.

I read this in a recent issue of Bass Player magazine(one with Cliff on cover)

[willis2441]

I read that Cliff was the most "technically advanced" member of the group and Cliff taught James a lot of theory. Kirk said that Cliff could play some guitar and was actually becoming a good guitar player.

I read this in a recent issue of Bass Player magazine(one with Cliff on cover)
hmmmmmm

[6stringslinger]

Some one earlier was asking if Metallica recorded all thier instruments at the same time or record them seperately.

On St.Anger Bob Rock recorded the whole band playing together like in a large studio or garage. Bob said he did'nt want to use anything real fancy, just a raw stripped down sound. You notice on St. Anger you can hear some guitar feedback, fingers rubbing on the guitar strings, snare sounds like a tin can ..........that is why it sounds different than all thier other albums.

Normally they record all the instruments seperately

[ThrashMaster27]

The solos?..or the bass? Because im like 90% sure that james did some solos on kill em all, and about 70% sure that he did some bass..

James does one solo I know of on Kill 'Em All and that's the first solo on The Four Horsemen.

[willis2441]

Some one earlier was asking if Metallica recorded all thier instruments at the same time or record them seperately.

On St.Anger Bob Rock recorded the whole band playing together like in a large studio or garage. Bob said he did'nt want to use anything real fancy, just a raw stripped down sound. You notice on St. Anger you can hear some guitar feedback, fingers rubbing on the guitar strings, snare sounds like a tin can ..........that is why it sounds different than all thier other albums.

Normally they record all the instruments seperately
lars does rimshots,thats why it sounds like a can

[thelittledrummerboy]

It sounds crap, that what it is.

[mprules]

no i dont think so, he just basically has very little snare, i dont think lars could keep up with rimshots

[willis2441]

no i dont think so, he just basically has very little snare, i dont think lars could keep up with rimshots
trust me,he rimshots and he has a big snare

[thelittledrummerboy]

I heard alot of things that make that sound that aren't rimshots such as using two skins and strapping a piece of metal to the bottom of the drum to give it that hollow, metallic sound. but rimshots could be all it is. My friend said when he saw them in Sydney that the snare sounded like it always did.

[willis2441]

I heard alot of things that make that sound that aren't rimshots such as using two skins and strapping a piece of metal to the bottom of the drum to give it that hollow, metallic sound. but rimshots could be all it is. My friend said when he saw them in Sydney that the snare sounded like it always did.
he rimshots in the recordings

[\m/Pete\m/]

he can shred?

James does some pretty cool **** on the Cunning Stunts DVD. If anyone has that listen to his improvs in Fade to Black and Leper Messiah(the first part of the 2 dvd)

[6stringslinger]

I bet James can do a lot more things on the guitar than most people think. I don't know if we will ever hear what he is completely capable of.

[lecky]

im sure he could play lead if he really wanted to, he doesnt appear to be as quick as kirk but from the little teasers u see here and there, james can really let it rip when he wants, not to mention their riffs arent very easy to sing and play. but he doesnt seem to struggle at any point of any song - peace

[ThrashMaster27]

I'm sure he could pull off a few solo's, but he doesn't. Why? who knows. Metallica aren't a band that share Lead duties like Slayer, Megadeth, Priest etc etc. Perhaps James isn't good at creating solos, cause I can't see any reason he doesn't do more.

[mprules]

also i think he said at one time that playing leads would get in the way of his "drinking"

[lecky]

yeah this is true, any solos that he does do are scripted, MoP, nothing else matters...... but then again kirk just plays slightly modified versions of the albums solo's... its one for the ages why james doesnt solo more. frankly im not fussed i think that their lay out works a charm. and it'd have to wouldnt it coz theyve come a fair way

[metal guitar III]

I'm 99% sure that Kirk not James played the leads on KEA.

[EightyProof]

Does anyone know how these guys play the solos so fast like on One and the solo after the slow one on Master of Puppets?

[Six Foot Revolver]

Does anyone know how these guys play the solos so fast like on One and the solo after the slow one on Master of Puppets?
By being good

[EightyProof]

By being good

I know that but is there a special way they play them or is it just regular picking?

[metal guitar III]

I know that but is there a special way they play them or is it just regular picking?
Alternate picking is how I would do it.

[munky_magik]

Does anyone know how these guys play the solos so fast like on One and the solo after the slow one on Master of Puppets?
Practice.

[Squiggle]

theyre not especialy fast at all.

[fenderbender89]

theyre not especialy fast at all.

Kirk's sh*t is FAST

[Six Foot Revolver]

Kirk's sh*t is FAST :amaze:
I don't think it is anywhere near as fast as everyone says it is.

NP:Of wolf and man

[metal guitar III]

Kirk's sh*t is FAST
IMO, people like Marty Friedman and Jason Becker are sh*t fast. Much faster then Kirk.
NP: Testament-Into The Pit

[Squiggle]

Kirk's sh*t is FAST

no, go listen to some real guitar players.

[Six Foot Revolver]

no, go listen to some real guitar players.
I wouldn't go that far

[Squiggle]

i would, kirk is overhyped, sloppy and monotonous.

[metal guitar III]

i would, kirk is overhyped, sloppy and monotonous.
It's true that he's overhyped.

[Six Foot Revolver]

i would, kirk is overhyped, sloppy and monotonous.
I don't agree with one point you said there

[Chu]

Don't really need to be so hard on him.
It's obvious he hasn't heard much, if any Megadeth (And from that Marty Friedman), and I highly doubt he would have the fogiest idea who Jason Becker is.

You could instead, go about it in a different way and just recommend he listens to some Jason Becker or Marty Friedman (Maybe via Cacophony), and then listen to Kirk again and judge who has the speed.

[munky_magik]

IMO, people like Marty Friedman and Jason Becker are sh*t fast. Much faster then Kirk.
NP: Testament-Into The Pit
Rusty Cooley is much faster than them.
He sounds like a damn computer game :-/

[metal guitar III]

Don't really need to be so hard on him.
It's obvious he hasn't heard much, if any Megadeth (And from that Marty Friedman), and I highly doubt he would have the fogiest idea who Jason Becker is.

You could instead, go about it in a different way and just recommend he listens to some Jason Becker or Marty Friedman (Maybe via Cacophony), and then listen to Kirk again and judge who has the speed.
You're right. I used to think Kirk was the fastest, but then I just went discovering more music and guitarists.
EDIT: I will check out Rusty Cooley

[btoto]

Yesterday was my 20th birthday. I went to buy SKOM, but couldn't find a pirate version (which is cheap), so I bought a Yngwie DVD.

Shi, I'm getting old :upset:

[Chu]

You're only a fraction older then me though.
But how fast does time go by now, I could have sworn yesterday was 2002 :x

I haven't got around to watching the second disc yet. I really just wanna see the rest of the Mustaine interview.

[btoto]

Chu
----

I want to see that too. Too bad my list (of things to buy) is MEGAbig.

Yeah, time does run very fast. I remember the first time I saw/heard 'tallica on TV in 1998. And being at school back then I had no money to buy CDs or even cassetes. So I spent many nights in my friends room copying from his tapes.

Ah, good old days :p

[Six Foot Revolver]

My list of thing to buy is HUGE too :upset:

[munky_magik]

Yesterday was my 20th birthday. I went to buy SKOM, but couldn't find a pirate version (which is cheap), so I bought a Yngwie DVD.

Shi, I'm getting old :upset:
Happy Birthday for yesterday :chug:

[btoto]

munky magik
------------

Thanks a lot :beer:

[Joe]

no, go listen to some real guitar players.

well bad start noob. anyone that plays guitar would be a guitar player now wouldn't they? who do you like that's so special?

[Leper]

I agree that Kirk isn't the fastest solo-ist out there, but i definitely wouldn't call him a sloppy guitar player. Anyone who's seen him in concert would agree that his skills are quite sound.

[\m/Pete\m/]

I dont think Kirk gets the credit he really deserves. Sure he is over-rated to an extent, but i think thats mainly because of the fanboys only know of him because he's with Metallica. After i watch Live Sh*t B&P and he played that monsterous solo before he went into Little Wing, i gained a lot more respect from him.

Cooley is probably the fastest guitarist i have ever heard aside from Baitio, but i really cant stand stuff like that because there doesnt seem to be any real emotion in it. Its just kinda like "I can play THIS fast!...Oh yeah? I can play FASTER!"

The best instrumentalist's cd i have ever bought is Satch's Strange Beautiful Music

Satch owns all

[PepsiMetal]

Uh, who cares who's faster? A guitarist can be faster, but writes crappy music. Kirk isn't that fast, but I like the solos he writes. And he's not sloppy at all. His live performance solos are pretty much identical to the studio ones. What do you guys think about james? He's kinda better than kirk imo.

Satch owns all

Uh, definetely not all.

[Mister_Che]

Uh, who cares who's faster? A guitarist can be faster, but writes crappy music. Kirk isn't that fast, but I like the solos he writes. And he's not sloppy at all. His live performance solos are pretty much identical to the studio ones. What do you guys think about james? He's kinda better than kirk imo.

James' solos are much more interesting in my opinion. Case in point: Orion.

[\m/Pete\m/]

Uh, who cares who's faster? A guitarist can be faster, but writes crappy music. Kirk isn't that fast, but I like the solos he writes. And he's not sloppy at all. His live performance solos are pretty much identical to the studio ones. What do you guys think about james? He's kinda better than kirk imo.

His solo's in concert are different from the albums...if you've seen them before you'd know that he improvises a lot. As does the rest of the band

[Six Foot Revolver]

But the guy said kirk is overhyped, sloppy and monotonous.

[wrongnote85]

what solo does james play in orion? are you talking about the pretty part?

[PepsiMetal]

His solo's in concert are different from the albums...if you've seen them before you'd know that he improvises a lot. As does the rest of the band

I have like 15 of their live performances. I have all of those mp3 songs as well, and trust me, they sound pretty much the same. Plus his timing is almost always good.

[\m/Pete\m/]

i think its the part after the little bass solo isnt it?

[wrongnote85]

the bass figure by itself before the 3 part harmony or the actual bass solo after kirks and the key change in the middle?

[Joe]

it actually says in the little booklet in the cd i think

[Mister_Che]

I'm pretty sure he did all 3 solos. They just don't sound like Kirk to me...

[Josh]

doesnt james also play the solo in nothing else matters?

[PepsiMetal]

doesnt james also play the solo in nothing else matters?

Yes he does. It's pretty short though. :(

[Leper]

James's solos always seem more creative and original. I guess when you've written as many solos as kirk they start to get a little redundant.

/not bashing kirk.

[Chu]

I have like 15 of their live performances. I have all of those mp3 songs as well, and trust me, they sound pretty much the same. Plus his timing is almost always good.
The ending solo in Fade To Black from Cunning Stunts. Tell me Kirk plays that perfectly...

[shadow_stalker]

The ending solo in Fade To Black from Cunning Stunts. Tell me Kirk plays that perfectly...

I really don't like cunning stunts, there doesnt seem to be much energy put into it.

[Leper]

how unfortunate. Having never seen the dvd that is about all i can say.

[shadow_stalker]

I thought it was good, but then i watched the live **** DVDs and it just seemed...crap!

[\m/Pete\m/]

Cunning Stunts is an awesome dvd...one of my favs of all time

and pepsi if Harvester of Sorrow will ever upload from yousendit i'll post it on here. The last part he plays in the solo is ****

[Six Foot Revolver]

how unfortunate. Having never seen the dvd that is about all i can say.
Heh, same here

[\m/Pete\m/]

i think it'd be cool if they made like a Garage Inc. 2. Like covers that range from Pantera to like Shadows Fall or something

[wrongnote85]

i could only stand the 2nd disk of garage inc. it's electric and merciful fate where cool on the 1st disk though.

[Six Foot Revolver]

i think it'd be cool if they made like a Garage Inc. 2. Like covers that range from Pantera to like Shadows Fall or something
Yeah, that would be pretty cool. I would prefer them to create an original album though

[\m/Pete\m/]

^^ true

http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3DS6OYL6T4W5J3NMCCNXB1BCQ7

Heres Harvester of Sorrow live

edit: **** my bad guys that was a BIG upload...it wont be too bad if you got dsl

[\m/Pete\m/]

i could only stand the 2nd disk of garage inc. it's electric and merciful fate where cool on the 1st disk though.

I think Metallica made all of those songs better imo...except maybe Tuesdays Gone

but Astronomy and Turn the Page...much better than the originals

[Six Foot Revolver]

I don't think Sabbra Caddabra was as good as the original

[PepsiMetal]

The ending solo in Fade To Black from Cunning Stunts. Tell me Kirk plays that perfectly...

Im not saying he plays every solo on every concert perfectly. Im saying most of it is perfect. There isn't any guitarist that plays every solo every time perfect. We're all human. :thumb:

[\m/Pete\m/]

i dunno...that is one of my favorite songs off of GI

I like both versions, but i do like how much more upbeat 'Tally's is


Edit: to pepsi..i think Petrucci plays most of his 100% accurate note for note of the time, but then again he is amazing. Oh and did you download that song?

[munky_magik]

The Mercyful Fate originals> Metallica's efforts.

[Six Foot Revolver]

I think Metallica made all of those songs better imo...except maybe Tuesdays Gone

but Astronomy and Turn the Page...much better than the originals
Tuesdays gone just did not suit Metallica

[\m/Pete\m/]

Not a big King Diamond fan (vocal wise)

**** im postin the hell outta this thread right now, but anyways i think that Fuel has one of Metallica's best solo's imo

[Six Foot Revolver]

Not a big King Diamond fan (vocal wise)

**** im postin the hell outta this thread right now, but anyways i think that Fuel has one of Metallica's best solo's imo
Yep. A very good song all around IMO

[hatchedinalab89]

I think Kirk is a great guitarist, he lights up the ****en stage during every song in concert. Btw, Lars, James, and Kirk can all write plenty good music, you don't last 20+ years as one of the best metal bands out there, to finally being the best band EVER (imo as i have expressed before...), without having 3/4 or all four members writing good music. Between James and Lars, I never even knew that James soloed in any song, thats new to me. I'd like to see a new thrash album come out from them, with musicianship like Black Album, but faster. Only now, how about both of them solo at the same time? Some might say it'll sound sloppy, but how cool would it be to hear nothing but two guitarists just giving it all they got as a goodbye present to their fans?

[\m/Pete\m/]

I think Kirk is a great guitarist, he lights up the ****en stage during every song in concert. Btw, Lars, James, and Kirk can all write plenty good music, you don't last 20+ years as one of the best metal bands out there, to finally being the best band EVER (imo as i have expressed before...), without having 3/4 or all four members writing good music. Between James and Lars, I never even knew that James soloed in any song, thats new to me. I'd like to see a new thrash album come out from them, with musicianship like Black Album, but faster. Only now, how about both of them solo at the same time? Some might say it'll sound sloppy, but how cool would it be to hear nothing but two guitarists just giving it all they got as a goodbye present to their fans?

When they played One when i saw them both james and kirk played that little solo after the main one kirk does...sounded excellent

[PepsiMetal]

Edit: to pepsi..i think Petrucci plays most of his 100% accurate note for note of the time, but then again he is amazing. Oh and did you download that song?

Petrucci is great but I doubt he always plays perfect. And yes I downloaded the song and first thing that came to my mind was why is an audio file 60 MB? lol :lol:

That performance was ok, I dont like harvester of sorrow much though.

[\m/Pete\m/]

i just wanted to bring up something that bugged me that i read. Malmsteem was commenting about Vibratos and said that Kirk has the worst vibrato hes ever heard. He said it was because he has perfect pitch, but i dont hear anything wrong with them at all (well except maybe for KeA, Kirk even said that himself)

Does anybody else think that too?

[\m/Pete\m/]

Petrucci is great but I doubt he always plays perfect. And yes I downloaded the song and first thing that came to my mind was why is an audio file 60 MB? lol :lol:

That performance was ok, I dont like harvester of sorrow much though.

yeah i was like "why the hell is this taken so long?" then i looked and it was HUGE! Meh, to each their own, but the main thing i was gettin at was the improvision in the solo...you caught that right?

[munky_magik]

i just wanted to bring up something that bugged me that i read. Malmsteem was commenting about Vibratos and said that Kirk has the worst vibrato hes ever heard. He said it was because he has perfect pitch, but i dont hear anything wrong with them at all (well except maybe for KeA, Kirk even said that himself)

Does anybody else think that too?
Malmsteem is all about his ego. He thinks he is the best player alive, and feels he has the right to criticize every other player on the planet.
Ignore him.

[Six Foot Revolver]

Stupid question but who is Malmsteen?

[munky_magik]

Stupid question but who is Malmsteen?
Yngwie Malmsteem.
Formerly overwieght neo-classical shred guitarist.
Dominates the Melodic + harmonic minor.
Think Paganini on guitar.
With a horrible, horrible tone.
Has a massive ego.

[btoto]

Yngwie's got a great vibrato though.... :upset:

[\m/Pete\m/]

I dont know why he thinks he soo good, Satch could own him any day

[Six Foot Revolver]

Yngwie Malmsteem.
Formerly overwieght neo-classical shred guitarist.
Domintae the Melodic + harmonic minor.
Think Paganini on guitar.
With a horrible, horrible tone.
Has a massive ego.
Oh yeah, thanks. My mind kinda went blank.

[PepsiMetal]

yeah i was like "why the hell is this taken so long?" then i looked and it was HUGE! Meh, to each their own, but the main thing i was gettin at was the improvision in the solo...you caught that right?

Uh, I didn't notice it the first time, but I know what you mean now.

[AimlessDave]

I think Kirk is a great guitarist, he lights up the ****en stage during every song in concert. Btw, Lars, James, and Kirk can all write plenty good music, you don't last 20+ years as one of the best metal bands out there, to finally being the best band EVER (imo as i have expressed before...), without having 3/4 or all four members writing good music. Between James and Lars, I never even knew that James soloed in any song, thats new to me. I'd like to see a new thrash album come out from them, with musicianship like Black Album, but faster. Only now, how about both of them solo at the same time? Some might say it'll sound sloppy, but how cool would it be to hear nothing but two guitarists just giving it all they got as a goodbye present to their fans?

A goodbye present?
Did I miss something?

[Mister_Che]

A goodbye present?
Did I miss something?

I think he's going to put a hit out on Metallica.

[Six Foot Revolver]

/Is confused

[Rasta Rocker]

I think Kirk is a great guitarist, he lights up the ****en stage during every song in concert. Btw, Lars, James, and Kirk can all write plenty good music, you don't last 20+ years as one of the best metal bands out there, to finally being the best band EVER (imo as i have expressed before...), without having 3/4 or all four members writing good music. Between James and Lars, I never even knew that James soloed in any song, thats new to me. I'd like to see a new thrash album come out from them, with musicianship like Black Album, but faster. Only now, how about both of them solo at the same time? Some might say it'll sound sloppy, but how cool would it be to hear nothing but two guitarists just giving it all they got as a goodbye present to their fans?

......like the first four albums......

[btoto]

\m/Pete\m/
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Dude, Yngwie can tear Satch into pieces. He's a big ego, and most of his stuff sounds alike but as a guitar player (not composer) he's far better than Joe.

[munky_magik]

\m/Pete\m/
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Dude, Yngwie can tear Satch into pieces. He's a big ego, and most of his stuff sounds alike but as a guitar player (not composer) he's far better than Joe.
Yngwie is perhaps a better shredder than Satch. I say perhaps because We don't know the full extent of either of their abilities.

I don't know if you knew this, but if you hit the reply button in the bottom right corner of someones post then it quotes the person's message like this

[Joe]

I think Kirk is a great guitarist, he lights up the ****en stage during every song in concert. Btw, Lars, James, and Kirk can all write plenty good music, you don't last 20+ years as one of the best metal bands out there, to finally being the best band EVER (imo as i have expressed before...), without having 3/4 or all four members writing good music. Between James and Lars, I never even knew that James soloed in any song, thats new to me. I'd like to see a new thrash album come out from them, with musicianship like Black Album, but faster. Only now, how about both of them solo at the same time? Some might say it'll sound sloppy, but how cool would it be to hear nothing but two guitarists just giving it all they got as a goodbye present to their fans?

I agree with you completely (no IMO, it's more than us). Kirk is an amazing guitarist. They all actually write great music. St. Anger didn't disappoint me because of the lyrics or the riffs, it's that Lars thought solos weren't trendy.

I'd like this album to be better than the Black Album. I want it to have fast songs with awesome lyrics and cool solos. I can't wait until it's released.

Metallica isn't retiring anytime soon, unless you've heard otherwise. They will probably go on tour in a year or two after the release of the new album.

[Thor]

I'd like this album to be better than the Black Album. I want it to have fast songs with awesome lyrics and cool solos. I can't wait until it's released.

It would be rather hard to top the Black Album, because it is the album that Metallica is known for, thanks to Enter Sandman.

[Joe]

It would be rather hard to top the Black Album, because it is the album that Metallica is known for, thanks to Enter Sandman.

i never said it had to be more popular than the black album, i said i want it to be better (from a true fan standpoint)

[munky_magik]

i never said it had to be more popular than the black album, i said i want it to be better (from a true fan standpoint)
what exactly is a "true fan standpoint"?

[Thor]

what exactly is a "true fan standpoint"?
Fans like it more than the Black Album.

Sort of like how fans love Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets.

[\m/Pete\m/]

\m/Pete\m/
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Dude, Yngwie can tear Satch into pieces. He's a big ego, and most of his stuff sounds alike but as a guitar player (not composer) he's far better than Joe.

I know he could shredding wise, but as far the actual song goes (like you said), Satch owns. Hes much more creative and cover a much broader ground the malmsteem does. So in a sense Satch is a better guitar player, because he does more than scales at mach 9

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3RQHGRID8P5SU2UJ0SH0XY5QQ2

listen to this solo...Gnahh from Is there Love in Space?

[PepsiMetal]

Here are 3 metallica live performance vids. They are all from rock in rio 04.

One:
http://s2.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=02K8VAWJEDOAL0D7UL5OPCVQ9O

Sanitarium:
http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1XF4UOGZ6SZHC3AGFDODIGT51M

Hit the lights (Notice james plays the new Truckster):
http://s25.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2PVODL2EY2PSX3H3E0SLHDGUDF

:thumb:

[Josh]

Fans like it more than the Black Album.

Sort of like how fans love Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets.
IMO ...AJFA > MOP

[Joe]

what exactly is a "true fan standpoint"?

it was a bad choice of words. what i mean is a fan that doesn't only like the black album. a fan that knows that metallica has had better years (such as the cliff years). i think most "true fans" would believe that.

how about from my standpoint? it should be better than the black album.

i'm thinking it will be. they mentioned in SKOM how certain songs haven't been played like cliff since cliff and that rob made them sound better so i'm hoping because he makes "metallica sound better" (lars) that it will be better.

[\m/Pete\m/]

sweet i'll check em out.

are they as huge as mine?

retorical question, no one is bigger than me

[wrongnote85]

i agree. metallica was tight as hell during the cliff years. i've watched my copy of cliff em all about a million times and it never ceases to amaze me. they where very tight with jason on the justice and black tours, but when the whole alt metallica came around they lost it i think. i saw em last may and i think rob really did kick em in the *** because they played much better than they have over the last few years.

[PepsiMetal]

sweet i'll check em out.

are they as huge as mine?

retorical question, no one is bigger than me

:lol:

Hit the lights - 45 MB
Sanitarium - 70 MB
One - 105 MB

Something like that. :thumb:

[Josh]

i'm getting hit the lights now.

why does jason sing some of the songs on live ****?

[Chu]

Just watched the extended Mustaine interview, still too short.
But I liked it.
I wish Cliff was here....

However, I really do like St. Anger, I've been listenning to it massive amounts recently, probably my most listenned to album (Other then Train of Thought) for the past 2 weeks. It's my fav since ...AJFA for sure.

[\m/Pete\m/]

^^ see...they start to grow in numbers

welcome my friend

[Chu]

^^ see...they start to grow in numbers

welcome my friend
Still, not their best for sure, and I don't even like ..AJFA that much, but I prefer it over self-titled, Load and ReLoad without a doubt.

[Carlos Santana]

d/l the videos right now

[Six Foot Revolver]

My favourite Metallica album changes alot but my favourite at the moment is ..AJFA

[\m/Pete\m/]

My favourite Metallica album changes alot but my favourite at the moment is ..AJFA

thats usually my fav...that or Load

[PepsiMetal]

My favourite Metallica album changes alot but my favourite at the moment is ..AJFA

My favorite tallica album is AJFA as well. It hasn't changed in a while. When I started listening to metallica it was black album of course, but then I discovered AJFA, RTL, MOP and KEA.

[Carlos Santana]

is it me or does James sort of look like rammstein singer in the Hit The Lights video?

[btoto]

I know he could shredding wise, but as far the actual song goes (like you said), Satch owns. Hes much more creative and cover a much broader ground the malmsteem does. So in a sense Satch is a better guitar player, because he does more than scales at mach 9

http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3RQHGRID8P5SU2UJ0SH0XY5QQ2

listen to this solo...Gnahh from Is there Love in Space?

Yeah, as I said Satch is a better composer. But Yngwie can play like a motherfvcker. Too bad he always uses the same tricks. I improved a lot in my guitar playing after listening to Malmsteen.
I wish he put more effort into his solos. :upset:

Well, that's the problem with all virtuosos. Some time ago I bought G3 Denver DVD and apart from a few nice things it was a total disaster ! A whole hour of boringness and dissappointment. Joe playing the fricking blues scale up and down the fretboard, Steve riding his tremolo and producing those wierd "discovery channel documentary" sounds and Yngwie raping the minor scale to death ! :upset:

I did enjoy it a lot when they played and sang together in the end.

[Thor]

IMO ...AJFA > MOP
I'll second that. ...And Justice For All is an incredible album.

[willis2441]

I'll second that. ...And Justice For All is an incredible album.
i agree wth him too AJFA>MOP

[Joe]

wow really you guys? AJFA is amazing but i'm going with MOP. Master of Puppets I think had better guitar solos and bass by far. AJFA had better drums. I also think i like Orion better than To live is to die (not an instrumental, but mostly)

[willis2441]

wow really you guys? AJFA is amazing but i'm going with MOP. Master of Puppets I think had better guitar solos and bass by far. AJFA had better drums. I also think i like Orion better than To live is to die (not an instrumental, but mostly)
yes but to live is to die is a great tribute to cliff,how could you like it better than orion?

[Chu]

wow really you guys? AJFA is amazing but i'm going with MOP. Master of Puppets I think had better guitar solos and bass by far. AJFA had better drums. I also think i like Orion better than To live is to die (not an instrumental, but mostly)
I like this guy.

[Joe]

yes but to live is to die is a great tribute to cliff,how could you like it better than orion?

I don't. I said I like Orion better than To Live is To Die (TLITD is still incredible, just i like Orion more)

I like this guy.

:D :chug:

[metal guitar III]

wow really you guys? AJFA is amazing but i'm going with MOP. Master of Puppets I think had better guitar solos and bass by far. AJFA had better drums. I also think i like Orion better than To live is to die (not an instrumental, but mostly)
This is my opinion aswell.

[thelittledrummerboy]

I'm 99% sure that Kirk not James played the leads on KEA.

Didn't Kirk have to learn all the songs like a week before they recorded Kill 'em all? After they released Dave that is.

[metal guitar III]

He did have to learn Dave's leads pretty quick, but I don't know exactly how long.

[willis2441]

He did have to learn Dave's leads pretty quick, but I don't know exactly how long.
well,KEA was recorded in 17 days....

[Chu]

This is my opinion aswell.
I like this guy too.

Oh, and his mum :D

[LarsAgi007]

i'm getting hit the lights now.

why does jason sing some of the songs on live ****?

Because, in live ****, it hadn't been a great length of time since Jason had joined, and as we all know, Jason had some pretty big shoes to fill.... I know that he was rejected quite a bit at first, and therefore, the more Musically tallented he appears the better the outcome, i also think Jaymez likes the opertunity to go have a beer lol :chug: :naughty:

[thelittledrummerboy]

Weird

[thelittledrummerboy]

Because, in live ****, it hadn't been a great length of time since Jason had joined, and as we all know, Jason had some pretty big shoes to fill.... I know that he was rejected quite a bit at first, and therefore, the more Musically tallented he appears the better the outcome, i also think Jaymez likes the opertunity to go have a beer lol :chug: :naughty:

I like his grunt in Sandman, one and creeping death. When he does them live of course. Me personally, i like Jason. I think he's talanted and he brought a good attitude to the band and had a dynamic stage presence.

[metal guitar III]

I like his grunt in Sandman, one and creeping death. When he does them live of course. Me personally, i like Jason. I think he's talanted and he brought a good attitude to the band and had a dynamic stage presence.
IMO, anyone who denys Jason's stage presence, is a fool.

[PepsiMetal]

What did jason sing anyways? which songs?

[Joe]

Weird

i'd neg rep you for that post

well,KEA was recorded in 17 days....

only because they knew all the songs before they were signed. they practiced for years and years before they got the deal and started recording. by then they got everthing down easily

[LarsAgi007]

What did jason sing anyways? which songs?

Quite a few.... Not on the albums i dont think lol, Just live... On live binge and purge he sings 98% of Seek and destroy.... It that a mistake near the intro, or were they meant to stop?
They kinda just stop and all you hear is the bass drum with Jason shouting Eh! Eh! Eh! over the top of it lol...

[metal guitar III]

Jason also sings on Whiplash, apparently James finds the lyrics cringeful.

[thelittledrummerboy]

[QUOTE=gocaps99]i'd neg rep you for that post


Why? :confused:

[Joe]

Quite a few.... Not on the albums i dont think lol, Just live... On live binge and purge he sings 98% of Seek and destroy.... It that a mistake near the intro, or were they meant to stop?
They kinda just stop and all you hear is the bass drum with Jason shouting Eh! Eh! Eh! over the top of it lol...

on dvd 1 james burped...

[LarsAgi007]

i'd neg rep you for that post



only because they knew all the songs before they were signed. they practiced for years and years before they got the deal and started recording. by then they got everthing down easily

Yes, i agree there, also some of the Material for kill em all was written in other bands Jaymez was in previous to Metallica! :evil:

Yeah Lars holds up a piece of card saying 'BURP!!!' on it lol....