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CreepingDeath~
03-04-2005, 09:07 PM
Ok I'm usually not mad at grammer errors, considering i make a lot, but is it supposed to be "are?"

"Metallica are the best"
"Led Zeppelin are the best"
etc etc

"metallica" is a single group; therefore, isn't it "is"

like "Metallica is the best?"

sorry, it's just like a pet peeve in this forum when people say a group are the best
I have never thought of that...
I think it's is, but I don't really pay attention to it..

bigpossum93
03-04-2005, 09:09 PM
You know, if there was no Iron Maiden, there would be no Metallica.

iron maiden had no influence on james and lars it was DIAMOND HEAD ................oh yeah kirk is THE best out there

thelittledrummerboy
03-04-2005, 09:15 PM
im only 13 and know barely anythign about music but guys lets be honest metallica are the best band in metal history name a band with better riffs and solos kirk is the best guitarest alive in a metal band keep up the entrys :thumb: ..........i have there concert in texas 1997 (cunning stunts) and i wish i could have been there :angry:

I doubt they would have let u in. U were probally only 5 or 6 years old.But none the less it's a great concert.It's where i first really started to get into Metallica :)

disturbed artist
03-04-2005, 09:16 PM
yeah

thelittledrummerboy
03-04-2005, 09:18 PM
Yeah What?

llauoykcuf
03-04-2005, 09:19 PM
it isn't that hard just pay attention in english class

You, apparently haven't been in any english classes lately.

lecky
03-04-2005, 09:19 PM
hey that was my dickhead little 13 year old brother who is a poser bopper, forgive his ignorance for saying kirk is the best and i hope u appreciate the beating i gave his punk ***. sometimes the young'ns have just gotta learn

Joe
03-04-2005, 09:19 PM
yeah

bad first post. it's not like an AIM chat or something you gota post more than "yeah" or people aren't gunna like you

vashts80
03-04-2005, 09:26 PM
mate iron maiden haev 2 lead guitarests i think its alot easyer when u do half the fukin solos

A) Three leads
B) Hetfield writes most of the riffs, the only riffs Kirk writes usually are the solos
C) Maiden switches between the three leads very often, you can tell
D) All three Maiden guitarists share solo duty, but the bass is up-front 98% of the time
E) Learn how to spell
F) Should I continue?

Oh, by the way: Whoever said that Lars and James weren't influenced by Maiden, Lars and James were influenced by NWOBHM. That includes Maiden, Motorhead, Diamond Head, Sabbath (I think), Priest, etc.

Also, to the same douche, stop being a fanboi and figure it out. Marty Friedman and Chris Poland, Dimebag Darrell, Dave Murray, Jason Becker, etc. They can all run CIRCLES around Kirk. Even Hetfield can. And he's rhythm.

thelittledrummerboy
03-04-2005, 09:29 PM
yeah lol

thelittledrummerboy
03-04-2005, 09:33 PM
yeah lol

Kirk isn't bad by no means, i'm just sayung thats he's not the only decent guitarist in the world. Expand your musical influences man, theres a big world out there.

6-String_Slinger
03-04-2005, 09:34 PM
origionally posted by thelittledrummerboy
yeah lol

lol i love it


yeah i have been in enlish class considering i go everyday................

CreepingDeath~
03-04-2005, 09:35 PM
iron maiden had no influence on james and lars it was DIAMOND HEAD ................oh yeah kirk is THE best out thereLars was out in England and he saw Iron maiden and diamond head and some others play, so he decided to make his own band.
And Kirk is not the best out there.

llauoykcuf
03-04-2005, 09:35 PM
hey that was my dickhead little 13 year old brother who is a poser bopper, forgive his ignorance for saying kirk is the best and i hope u appreciate the beating i gave his punk ***. sometimes the young'ns have just gotta learn

lmao :p

thelittledrummerboy
03-04-2005, 09:42 PM
lol i love it


yeah i have been in enlish class considering i go everyday................

Thank you :thumb:

CreepingDeath~
03-04-2005, 09:45 PM
hey that was my dickhead little 13 year old brother who is a poser bopper, forgive his ignorance for saying kirk is the best and i hope u appreciate the beating i gave his punk ***. sometimes the young'ns have just gotta learnYeah, I thought something was up when I read your profile and it said you were born in 1987 :p

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-04-2005, 10:01 PM
I'v been messing around playing some of the songs from St.Anger, the droptunning is acually kinda fun for awhile :lol:

Of course the old Metallica was godly though, and WAY funner to play

Endless Obsession
03-04-2005, 10:10 PM
They can all run CIRCLES around Kirk. Even Hetfield can. And he's rhythm.

If your gonna try and be tough, know what you are talking about. hetfield isnt nearly as good as kirk when it comes to lead.

vashts80
03-04-2005, 10:18 PM
I didn't know that, because I could have sworn that Hetfield writes all the riffs except the solos. :rolleyes:

bigpossum93
03-04-2005, 10:27 PM
If your gonna try and be tough, know what you are talking about. hetfield isnt nearly as good as kirk when it comes to lead.

darn skippy, lars never went to england, he had english records imported to him in cali, oh yeah i forgot.......kirk is THE best

CreepingDeath~
03-04-2005, 10:44 PM
darn skippy, lars never went to england, he had english records imported to him in cali, oh yeah i forgot.......kirk is THE bestLars did go to england.

AimlessDave
03-04-2005, 10:53 PM
People say that Kirk didn't play on St. Anger because there were no solos, but actually he played more on St. Anger than he did on any of their older, classic albums. Hetfield would do all rhythm tracks and Kirk would just solo.
On the Loads and St. Anger, Kirk can be heard in the right speaker, while James is in the left.

Endless Obsession
03-04-2005, 10:55 PM
People say that Kirk didn't play on St. Anger because there were no solos, but actually he played more on St. Anger than he did on any of their older, classic albums. Hetfield would do all rhythm tracks and Kirk would just solo.
On the Loads and St. Anger, Kirk can be heard in the right speaker, while James is in the left.

No you are wrong, Kirk played a lot of the rhythm with him.

AimlessDave
03-04-2005, 11:05 PM
No you are wrong, Kirk played a lot of the rhythm with him.

Hm, well maybe it was just the Black Album. Have you ever seen "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica?" James did pretty much all the rhythm on the album, and did all the guitar work in Nothing Else Matters, even the solo.

PepsiMetal
03-04-2005, 11:06 PM
I remember seeing on SKOM kirk was arguing with lars about having solos. Even bob rock said he thinks there should be solos where they're needed, but not going solo crazy. Anyways, is there a reason why they didnt have any solos in there? They all seemed to want them except lars.

Endless Obsession
03-04-2005, 11:09 PM
Hm, well maybe it was just the Black Album. Have you ever seen "A Year and a Half in the Life of Metallica?" James did pretty much all the rhythm on the album, and did all the guitar work in Nothing Else Matters, even the solo.


Hmmm..no i havent seen it but yeah its definitly possible, ill take your word over mine when it comes to black album, but i know in there earlier albums its both of them most of the time.

vashts80
03-04-2005, 11:15 PM
But you totally miss my point. James writes all the riffs except the solos. Kirk just plays the lead riffs that James writes.

AimlessDave
03-04-2005, 11:25 PM
I remember seeing on SKOM kirk was arguing with lars about having solos. Even bob rock said he thinks there should be solos where they're needed, but not going solo crazy. Anyways, is there a reason why they didnt have any solos in there? They all seemed to want them except lars.

Well...yeah, Lars was the one who brought forth the idea of what he called "riff-o-rama" things. Kirk said that there should be solos (so the album won't sound like a "trend") yet he wasn't interested in playing normal solos. Bob Rock simply said that there shouldn't be a rule of solos or not solos.

I read that later it was a group decision to take the solos out, so that the feel of the album would be the whole band jamming and nobody taking the forefront. I do think that the album would be much cooler if there were solos, though.

lecky
03-04-2005, 11:54 PM
yeah i think metallica lost a lot of their substance when they removed the solo's, the album sounds like my band jamming with james singin over it... as lars says it feels "stock". but in turn this is probly what makes me like st anger more than other people

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-04-2005, 11:59 PM
st anger is good nu-metal

but nu-metal isnt very good to listen to

6stringslinger
03-05-2005, 03:04 AM
Well I finally heard Junglessence the bass solo by Robert Truijo......it is pretty f***** sick!! It is 7:00 minutes long. I like the little part in the middle when Kirk joins in on Orion.
Like I mentioned in the earlier post he did not solo when he was in Columbus,Oh.

I think he is a bad a** bassist. I have damm near have all of his work he did with Infectious Grooves. Want to hear a bad a** song from him check out "Punk it up" by Infectious Grooves he is slapping at lightining speed!! I think he can run circles around Newsted.

ThrashMaster27
03-05-2005, 04:10 AM
Well I finally heard Junglessence the bass solo by Robert Truijo......it is pretty f***** sick!! It is 7:00 minutes long. I like the little part in the middle when Kirk joins in on Orion.
Like I mentioned in the earlier post he did not solo when he was in Columbus,Oh.

I think he is a bad a** bassist. I have damm near have all of his work he did with Infectious Grooves. Want to hear a bad a** song from him check out "Punk it up" by Infectious Grooves he is slapping at lightining speed!! I think he can run circles around Newsted.

He could most likely run circles round Cliff Burton aswell. I'm still convinced Cliff Burton should have been a Lead Guitarist instead of a Bassist....mind you I suppose he gets credited for being an 'Inventive' Bassist now, which he was in fairness.

jaymz_is_god
03-05-2005, 06:26 AM
Rob is a great bassist. As was Cliff, but I think it's difficult to compare them beacuse they have very different styles.

Six Foot Revolver
03-05-2005, 08:00 AM
Is it just me or is there a discussion on which bassist is better everyday in here?

munky_magik
03-05-2005, 08:09 AM
More like compairing bassists, "best" discussions just cause trouble.
NP: Marty Friedman - It's The Unreal Thing
Most things cause trouble on this site.

Josh
03-05-2005, 08:43 AM
all the bassists in metallica had their own time in the base, its not like any of them got kicked out because of arguing; burton was killed in the crash, and as far as i know newsteds left without any arguments or anything, did he just want a change? and now they've got trujillo, but why bother arguing about who was / is better when they have a perfectly good bassist now?

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 09:03 AM
I doubt they would have let u in. U were probally only 5 or 6 years old.But none the less it's a great concert.It's where i first really started to get into Metallica :)

I know, all the planning that must have gone into Enter Sandman.. I bought it like 7 months ago, and i watched the 1st disk over and over again... Then one day i noticed the second disk lol, i saw enter sandman and was amazed as all these people dropping from the roof lol....
Also, on Motorbreath isnt Kirks guitar, with the blue mercury in it amazing lol

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 09:10 AM
all the bassists in metallica had their own time in the base, its not like any of them got kicked out because of arguing; burton was killed in the crash, and as far as i know newsteds left without any arguments or anything, did he just want a change? and now they've got trujillo, but why bother arguing about who was / is better when they have a perfectly good bassist now?

Jason left the band because he was in another project with a band he created called Echobrain... Echobrain got there first gig, and Jaymez hetfield told Jason that he couldnt take his second band to this level because he felt it would affect the Monster of Metallica....
Jason didnt understand why he couldn't play with his other band, and therefore left Metallica to play the gig with Echobrain..
Jaymez said the reason he didnt want Jason to play in echobrain is incase he enjoyed it more than Metallica, anyways i am led to believe that echobrain didnt become much of a success.... I know Jason did try and get back into the band after he had left, but the members said 'No!' he kept being really funny with the band and tryed to get them all down.... But they ended up using Bob Rock as Bass player untill The auditions for bassist was completed, in which Robert Trujillo got :)

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-05-2005, 09:29 AM
Personally, I like Jason Newsted the best for Metallica bassist.

JACKROXYOU
03-05-2005, 09:58 AM
cause???

Pisungen
03-05-2005, 10:34 AM
all the bassists in metallica had their own time in the base, its not like any of them got kicked out because of arguing; burton was killed in the crash, and as far as i know newsteds left without any arguments or anything, did he just want a change? and now they've got trujillo, but why bother arguing about who was / is better when they have a perfectly good bassist now?

That's bullsh!t man!

1st: Jason "got kicked" due to the fact that James didn't want him to go on with two projects. It was either Metallica og Echobrain.

2nd: No doubt that Rob really is a great bass player, But we haven't seen him doing anything very cool yet. Like Burton doing solos and interludes (Pulling Teeth, and almost interludes on KEA(Four Horsemen), MOP(Master of Puppets) and RTL(Fade to Black))

All the bassist are very different, and has diffrent effects on the music. Burton played the bass like an inviduel instrument. Jason followed the guitars and did as James told him.

I can't say much about Rob yet, cuz he hasn't been in metallica for an complete album recording process...

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 10:35 AM
Personally, I like Jason Newsted the best for Metallica bassist.


I think Jason Newstead was an amazing Bassist for Metallica, But i feel he didnt seem to have the image that fitted in with Metallica... You look at the pics with Cliff.. He fitted in great, look at pics with jason though... He seems to stand out, Rob fits in better than jason.

Just my opinion though :evil:

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 10:37 AM
That's bullsh!t man!

1st: Jason "got kicked" due to the fact that James didn't want him to go on with two projects. It was either Metallica og Echobrain.

2nd: No doubt that Rob really is a great bass player, But we haven't seen him doing anything very cool yet. Like Burton doing solos and interludes (Pulling Teeth, and almost interludes on KEA(Four Horsemen), MOP(Master of Puppets) and RTL(Fade to Black))

All the bassist are very different, and has diffrent effects on the music. Burton played the bass like an inviduel instrument. Jason followed the guitars and did as James told him.

I can't say much about Rob yet, cuz he hasn't been in metallica for an complete album recording process...

I accually saw Rock AM ring, which took place just before S.t Anger came out, and i must say Robs bass playing was accually awesome, He had also changed alot of Jason's work and replaced it with his own... But yes i agree we havn't saw him play bass for any of his own work with Metallica just yet

Pisungen
03-05-2005, 10:45 AM
Btw When we're talking about good bassist we're about how creative they are... Not how good they play... Ofc Jason rocked doing the bass, but in the studio is kinda .... boring?

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 10:50 AM
Btw When we're talking about good bassist we're about how creative they are... Not how good they play... Ofc Jason rocked doing the bass, but in the studio is kinda .... boring?


How creative they are???? I am a drummer, and a guitarist.. I am highly creative but as far as playing of the bass goes its awfull because i rarely play it..... Its not just how creative they are... Its how good they play it also

munky_magik
03-05-2005, 10:52 AM
How 'good' somebody is at something depends entirely on peopls definition of the word.
If you are going to discuss how 'good' someone is then agree the defnition before hand so that no confusion arises.
I'm sick to death of people trying argue about how good someone is, when in fact they're talking about completely different things.

CreepingDeath~
03-05-2005, 11:10 AM
I think Jason Newstead was an amazing Bassist for Metallica, But i feel he didnt seem to have the image that fitted in with Metallica... You look at the pics with Cliff.. He fitted in great, look at pics with jason though... He seems to stand out, Rob fits in better than jason.

Just my opinion though :evil:Yeah I agree, I think Rob fits in to Metallica with his awesome crabwalk and how he twirls his hair around :D

vashts80
03-05-2005, 11:45 AM
The crabwalk is fun to do, I do it all the time in school. Only problem is that I pulled a muscle doing it the other day, cos I bent my leg the wrong way. :(

CreepingDeath~
03-05-2005, 11:47 AM
The crabwalk is fun to do, I do it all the time in school. Only problem is that I pulled a muscle doing it the other day, cos I bent my leg the wrong way. :(I guess it's a just a special skill then :D

Pisungen
03-05-2005, 05:53 PM
How creative they are???? I am a drummer, and a guitarist.. I am highly creative but as far as playing of the bass goes its awfull because i rarely play it..... Its not just how creative they are... Its how good they play it also

Surething... I'm talking about when you compare Jason and Cliff...

Btw. Just watched SKOM, and noticed a really cool riff... It's in the "Unnamed Feeling" part... Just after they've talked trou the lyrics, and Lars Pisses james of... Can't find it anywhere on St. Anger... It's kinda speedy

Pisungen
03-05-2005, 05:57 PM
How 'good' somebody is at something depends entirely on peopls definition of the word.
If you are going to discuss how 'good' someone is then agree the defnition before hand so that no confusion arises.
I'm sick to death of people trying argue about how good someone is, when in fact they're talking about completely different things.

That's why i tried settling it ;)

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 06:20 PM
I guess it's a just a special skill then :D

Must be (Attepts going downstairs doing the crab) lol :evil:

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 06:23 PM
That's why i tried settling it ;)


I did understand... I pointed out that a good bass player does not nesassarily mean they are creative... You can be the most creative guy in the world but if you can play the instrument well, then its not going to sound good Eg: Playing drums with pencils :D

CreepingDeath~
03-05-2005, 06:26 PM
It must be hard for Rob makin' that face he does, crabwalking, twirling his hair, and playing bass at the same time. :cool:

CreepingDeath~
03-05-2005, 06:29 PM
I did understand... I pointed out that a good bass player does not nesassarily mean they are creative... You can be the most creative guy in the world but if you can play the instrument well, then its not going to sound good Eg: Playing drums with pencils :D
Can or can't? :confused:

I think pencil drumming is cool :upset:

Pisungen
03-05-2005, 06:41 PM
Can or can't? :confused:

I think pencil drumming is cool :upset:

I think it's can't :wave:

CreepingDeath~
03-05-2005, 07:05 PM
I think it's can't :wave:
Okay, that's what I thought.. :)

LarsAgi007
03-05-2005, 07:29 PM
I think it's can't :wave:

Yea its cant lol

metal_milita
03-05-2005, 10:42 PM
Personally, I like Jason Newsted the best for Metallica bassist.
Same.
Someone said something about how Jason looked very out of place with Metallica, I totally disagree with that. That guy has a pretty metal face and knows how to perform, and he also can do very good growls (Live Sh*t). IMO, after Cliff passed away, he was the god-sent replacement who would try to mantain Cliff's legacy, but never pass it. As far as I see Cliff, it was rarley about his playing... It was about his presence and performance. Jason did his job on every single one of those Metallica never realized this (self admitted), and coincidently, in the 4ish albums Jason was with them, their fanbase became 10X bigger. As soon as he left, Metallica seemed to have lost its mind. Not that I'm bashing Rob, but his performance leaves me cold and his image just makes Metallica seem like an everyday trucker band (don't ask me to explain, i have no clue why :confused: ).

btw, since I haven't been on this in about 4 days, i just noticed the new rep thing. Funny because just a few days before I was battling about that topic with some morons in another thread. Repping was starting to be used as a weapon to enforce your opinions, and in the end only the biggest were able to keep up. Thats just missing the entire point. Kudos to the mods.

Joe
03-05-2005, 10:42 PM
It must be hard for Rob makin' that face he does, crabwalking, twirling his hair, and playing bass at the same time. :cool:

Well he's been playing with Ozzy for years, and I think they said he's around the same age as the rest of the band (38-42 range prolly) so he's had a long time to practice multitasking :thumb:

edit: i haven't been on all day. where'd my stars go?!

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-05-2005, 10:47 PM
Same.
Someone said something about how Jason looked very out of place with Metallica, I totally disagree with that.


Claypool tryed out for Metallica the same time as Newsted did. Claypool is an awesome bassist, but he would be totally out of place in Metallica. Primus is a great band for Claypool.

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-05-2005, 10:49 PM
Not that I'm bashing Rob, but his performance leaves me cold and his image just makes Metallica seem like an everyday trucker band (don't ask me to explain, i have no clue why :confused: ).
:lol:

llauoykcuf
03-05-2005, 10:50 PM
Claypool tryed out for Metallica the same time as Newsted did. Claypool is an awesome bassist, but he would be totally out of place in Metallica. Primus is a great band for Claypool.

Jason was out of place with metallica too, though, and in my opinion claypool is the better bassist...So it surprises me that he wasn't picked over jason, but your right, claypool did fit very well in primus

metal_milita
03-05-2005, 11:04 PM
Jason was out of place with metallica too, though, and in my opinion claypool is the better bassist...So it surprises me that he wasn't picked over jason, but your right, claypool did fit very well in primus
Jason only felt out of place because the other band members did not give him enough credit/creativity etc. He wasn't out of place becaues he wasn't the right man for the job (IMO).

6stringslinger
03-05-2005, 11:18 PM
What is Jason doing now, I know he is not with Echobrain or Ozzy, he must be still playing with Voivod. I read in an old interview that James shot down alot of Jason's ideas because his(Jason's) riffs sounded like Black Sabbath.

lecky
03-05-2005, 11:34 PM
yeah jason is still playing with voivod. i love rob as metallica's bassist, i mean seriously the guy is so hard not to love, watch him play battery its incredible how nuts he goes and how fast he can pluck, also he has the most powerful power stance of any guitarist ive seen. jason was a good bass player i liked all of his little interlude things he did live, however i dont think he was creative enough on stage, he just follows the guitars

vashts80
03-05-2005, 11:37 PM
The reason why he followed the guitars was because most of the riffs were wrote that way, IIRC.

As far as the whole bassist issue goes, and I've said this before, I believe that Rob is the most skilled of their three, but Jason had the most stage presence. I have started taking a liking to the crabwalk, though. It's teh pawnage.

ozzy7788
03-05-2005, 11:37 PM
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itspuddingtime00
03-05-2005, 11:40 PM
yeah jason is still playing with voivod. i love rob as metallica's bassist, i mean seriously the guy is so hard not to love, watch him play battery its incredible how nuts he goes and how fast he can pluck, also he has the most powerful power stance of any guitarist ive seen. jason was a good bass player i liked all of his little interlude things he did live, however i dont think he was creative enough on stage, he just follows the guitars

I think jason was plenty creative enough. Rob just looks weird IMO with metallica.

6stringslinger
03-05-2005, 11:41 PM
I wonder if Jason will have regrets about leaving Metallica, I dont think he would go crawling back and I would say the decision is final, I doubt they would take him back.

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-05-2005, 11:56 PM
I wonder if Jason will have regrets about leaving Metallica, I dont think he would go crawling back and I would say the decision is final, I doubt they would take him back.
they are not going to kick out rob for jason.

Though, I would perfer Jason.

PepsiMetal
03-05-2005, 11:59 PM
Does Robert ever use a pick? All the vids I've seen including one on SKOM he used no pick. What do you guys think if metallica found a female bassist like the one that did seek and destroy on SKOM. Wouldn't that be cool or what?

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-06-2005, 12:01 AM
Does Robert ever use a pick? All the vids I've seen including one on SKOM he used no pick. What do you guys think if metallica found a female bassist like the one that did seek and destroy on SKOM. Wouldn't that be cool or what?
i dunno, i dont usually like girls in bands for some reason.

6stringslinger
03-06-2005, 12:13 AM
No, I don't think Rob uses a pick.

metal_milita
03-06-2005, 12:44 AM
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FlyingPaul_83
03-06-2005, 12:55 AM
Rob is super good at fast plucking, i think thats cooler than playing with a pick

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-06-2005, 12:58 AM
Rob is super good at fast plucking, i think thats cooler than playing with a pick
Newsted was an awesome pick bassist though. You have to give him that.

Chu
03-06-2005, 01:13 AM
Didn't Newsted want to get back into Metallica?

I thought the girl that did Seek & Destroy ****en rocked, she could be the bassist for my (Uncreated) band anyday!

sg_sacrifice
03-06-2005, 01:13 AM
But you totally miss my point. James writes all the riffs except the solos. Kirk just plays the lead riffs that James writes.


Actually, James doesnt write all the riffs, kirk wrote the main riff in enter sandman

vashts80
03-06-2005, 01:13 AM
Rob actually does use a pick sometimes, according to a few interviews I read, but it's fingers 99.9% of the time.

Edit: sg_sacrifiice: Okay, James writes 99.8% of the riffs. Happy? He still writes a hell of a lot more than Kirk ever did/does.

sg_sacrifice
03-06-2005, 01:16 AM
Rob actually does use a pick sometimes, according to a few interviews I read, but it's fingers 99.9% of the time.

Edit: sg_sacrifiice: Okay, James writes 99.8% of the riffs. Happy? He still writes a hell of a lot more than Kirk ever did/does.

ya, i know, im just puttin it out there, and ya james does seem a lot better than kirk, i still love kirks classic solos

sg_sacrifice
03-06-2005, 01:23 AM
so is metallica for sure gonna release another album?

Huber
03-06-2005, 01:31 AM
I'd say for sure.

6stringslinger
03-06-2005, 02:24 AM
The Metallica website says they are now in the studio. To get to the part of the website where it says this you have to have a password or be in the Metclub or whatever.

I think they might be in the studio for a while, i heard rumors about an album this summer, I kind of doubt that......but I have been wrong once or twice in my life

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-06-2005, 02:24 AM
so is metallica for sure gonna release another album?
I expect they will be realeasing albums even after all the original members are dead.

Chu
03-06-2005, 04:45 AM
Actually, James doesnt write all the riffs, kirk wrote the main riff in enter sandman
And that's such a good song :p

lecky
03-06-2005, 05:34 AM
im sorry but i dont find pick bassists to be nearly as skillful as pluckers, i mean any half decent guitarist can play bass with a pick, its the plucking where its at. rob and cliff are/were both better than jason IMO (although again i love jasons interludes)... still i dunno im gunna have to say i love them all and what theyve done for metallica, and i can leave it at that

Pisungen
03-06-2005, 06:06 AM
But no matter what you say, there's only one real bassist for metallica, Cliff Burton, no matter how good he is, he was one of the original four (assuming that metallica wasn't a real band until "KEA")

Six Foot Revolver
03-06-2005, 06:38 AM
But no matter what you say, there's only one real bassist for metallica, Cliff Burton, no matter how good he is, he was one of the original four (assuming that metallica wasn't a real band until "KEA")
No. They have all done there part for Metallica and are/were all real bassists for metallica

lecky
03-06-2005, 07:04 AM
thankyou mxican thats what i was tryin to say

Pisungen
03-06-2005, 08:56 AM
No. They have all done there part for Metallica and are/were all real bassists for metallica

Ofc they've all done something for metallica, but what I'm saying is that they'll never get a bassist that have been trough the same stuff as the other James, Lars and Kirk has... They've started their career together, and no-one will be able to get in and be like one of the others... see my point? A bassist isn't all about skill...

shadow_stalker
03-06-2005, 09:01 AM
I went to a party last night and watched Cliif Em All, Cliff was brilliant. :cool:

I really want that, but i can never find it :angry:

shadow_stalker
03-06-2005, 09:02 AM
But no matter what you say, there's only one real bassist for metallica, Cliff Burton, no matter how good he is, he was one of the original four (assuming that metallica wasn't a real band until "KEA")

Cliff wasnt the origional metallica bassist, just like Kirk wasnt the origional guitarist.

Pisungen
03-06-2005, 09:04 AM
Cliff wasnt the origional metallica bassist, just like Kirk wasnt the origional guitarist.

That's why i wrote assuming that it all started on KEA...................

Pisungen
03-06-2005, 09:05 AM
Btw. anyone got the answer on why they offen play tune ½ step down live?

shadow_stalker
03-06-2005, 09:09 AM
You have to get it online, I've never seen it in a shop.

I hate ordering online, unless it is off amazon, i will wait till someone i know has it then steal it off them :lol:

Thor
03-06-2005, 09:12 AM
Cliff wasnt the origional metallica bassist, just like Kirk wasnt the origional guitarist.
Who was the original bassist then?

Pisungen
03-06-2005, 09:12 AM
You have to get it online, I've never seen it in a shop.

It's not even buyable in denmark! :(

Pisungen
03-06-2005, 09:14 AM
Who was the original bassist then?

I beleive it was Ron McGovney... Or was it DeeDee?

shadow_stalker
03-06-2005, 09:17 AM
I beleive it was Ron McGovney... Or was it DeeDee?

I think it was the first one.

JACKROXYOU
03-06-2005, 10:09 AM
mcgovney for sure

JACKROXYOU
03-06-2005, 10:53 AM
any guys down load the concert they went to

explorer ken
03-06-2005, 11:57 AM
I love Fade to Blacks lyrics.
fade to black is a good song, the lyrics are ok and the sound is cool.

6stringslinger
03-06-2005, 12:24 PM
Mcgovney was the bassist until Lars and James went to some bar and heard Burton playing with some other band and they were awed by his bass playing.

Enter Burton
Exit Mcgovney

Chu
03-06-2005, 12:45 PM
Mcgovney was the bassist until Lars and James went to some bar and heard Burton playing with some other band and they were awed by his bass playing.

Enter Burton
Exit Mcgovney
Trauma.

MA5TERofPUPPET5
03-06-2005, 01:14 PM
I beleive it was Ron McGovney... Or was it DeeDee?

The very first lineup was lars at drums and james at guitar, vocals, and bass (that was for a really short period)
Than ron mcgoveney took bass and dave mustaine took lead guitar. Than after they booted dave, kirk came and after they booted ron, cliff came. Cliff got smushed and Jason Newstead took up bass. A while ago, jason left and metallica's producer, bob rock took up bass and did most of saint anger. Not even a year after bob, ozzy's ex-bassist, Robert trujillo (one good mother-plucker) joined and so today, the lineup is

Vocals/Guitar: James Hetfield
Lead Guitar: Kirk Hammett
Bass: Robert Trujillo
Drums: Lars Ulrich

:D :D :D :D I'm a met nerd :D :D

Six Foot Revolver
03-06-2005, 01:15 PM
The very first lineup was lars at drums and james at guitar, vocals, and bass (that was for a really short period)
Than ron mcgoveney took bass and dave mustaine took lead guitar. Than after they booted dave, kirk came and after they booted ron, cliff came. Cliff got smushed and Jason Newstead took up bass. A while ago, jason left and metallica's producer, bob rock took up bass and did most of saint anger. Not even a year after bob, ozzy's ex-bassist, Robert trujillo (one good mother-plucker) joined and so today, the lineup is

Vocals/Guitar: James Hetfield
Lead Guitar: Kirk Hammett
Bass: Robert Trujillo
Drums: Lars Ulrich

:D :D :D :D I'm a met nerd :D :D
Did Zakath say you can steal his avatar?

Chu
03-06-2005, 01:20 PM
I'm pretty sure Mustaine was in Metallica with Cliff.

RiceMonster
03-06-2005, 01:24 PM
I'm pretty sure Mustaine was in Metallica with Cliff.
You're correct. Cliff joined before Dave got the boot.

Chu
03-06-2005, 01:28 PM
Which would mean, what MA5TERofPUPPET5 posted is not really correct.

Edit: So to this:
I'm a met nerd
I say, go find more sites and read up more, you hardly qualify as a nerd.

JACKROXYOU
03-06-2005, 01:58 PM
Did Zakath say you can steal his avatar?

i thought i recognized that ***

Deth
03-06-2005, 02:11 PM
Was anyone here lucky enough to see Dyers Eve live? I did, and it blew everything else away. Incredible.

vashts80
03-06-2005, 02:14 PM
I haven't actually seen it, but I have the soundboard audience version of the LA show on 3/5 when they played it for the first time in it's entirety. The crowd went absolutely ballistic.

SKoRioN
03-06-2005, 02:30 PM
I've only really known abou Metallica for a few months and they're already probably my favourite band. I'm going to get some of their albums but I want to see some live performances.
What would you guys recomend me looking out for ?

Thx in advance.

Deth
03-06-2005, 02:31 PM
It was like the 4th time on the tour they played it but it was insane. This was on 11/6 btw, 6/11 if your in Britain.

Deth
03-06-2005, 02:33 PM
I've only really known abou Metallica for a few months and they're already probably my favourite band. I'm going to get some of their albums but I want to see some live performances.
What would you guys recomend me looking out for ?

Thx in advance.


in order of importance (IMO)
1.Master of Puppets
2. ...And Justice for All
3. Ride the Lightning
4. Black Album (Metallica)
5. Kill 'Em All
6. Reload
7. Load
8. St. Anger

See them live if at all possible. You'll be happy you did. :D

sg_sacrifice
03-06-2005, 03:49 PM
I've only really known abou Metallica for a few months and they're already probably my favourite band. I'm going to get some of their albums but I want to see some live performances.
What would you guys recomend me looking out for ?

Thx in advance.


Get the first four albums (Kill em' all, ride the lightning, master of puppets, ...and justice for all) they're the best metallica albums , and get the black album too, but definately try to get LIVE ****: BINGE AND PURGE

SKoRioN
03-06-2005, 03:54 PM
Cheers, I'll have a look into them.
I need to get a part time job. Maybe once my GCSE's are over I'll try get one and get some money in, then I'll try get a few of them.
Until then I'll scrounge as much money as I can from around here...

LarsAgi007
03-06-2005, 05:15 PM
Is it just me or does www.metallica.com not seem to be getting updated at all??? I am begining to think we have been forgotten about!!!!! or is it just me being picky lol

(If you see this Metallica!!!! YOU RULE!!!)

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-06-2005, 05:24 PM
The Metallica Studio Albums... My list from best to worst... IMO

1. Master of Puppets
2. Black Album (Metallica)
3. Ride the Lightning
4. And Justice For All...
5. Kill 'Em All
6. Reload
7. Load
8. St. Anger

Whale and Wasp
03-06-2005, 05:28 PM
Is it just me or does www.metallica.com not seem to be getting updated at all??? I am begining to think we have been forgotten about!!!!! or is it just me being picky lol

(If you see this Metallica!!!! YOU RULE!!!)

i personally think that website sucks...there are sites with a TON of more information on metallica than it (www.metallicaworld.co.uk)

i think that metallica.com would be really kickass if the actual band themselves made it

The B
03-06-2005, 06:19 PM
So what site has the most info on it than that one?



Keep Bassin'!!!

sg_sacrifice
03-06-2005, 06:47 PM
This is my list of albums best to worst, imo:

Ride the Lightning
...And Justice for All
Master of Puppets
Black Album
Kill Em' All
Reload
Load
Garage Inc
St. Anger

Leper
03-06-2005, 06:47 PM
The Metallica Studio Albums... My list from best to worst... IMO

1. Master of Puppets
2. Black Album (Metallica)
3. Ride the Lightning
4. And Justice For All...
5. Kill 'Em All
6. Reload
7. Load
8. St. Anger

That's a tough topic for me to comment on. Master of Puppets is the best IMO, but then AJFA, RTL and KEA are very hard for me to pick one over the other.

hammet_ownz
03-06-2005, 07:17 PM
do you mean like the music or the producing?

sg_sacrifice
03-06-2005, 07:33 PM
I meant the music

the_abused
03-06-2005, 07:43 PM
Its stilla hard topic wether your doing producing or music


METALLICA KICKS A** ANYWAY

Hammerheart
03-06-2005, 07:45 PM
Kill Em' All
Master of Puppets
...And Justice For all
Ride The Lightning


in order, then metallica stopped.

Rasta Rocker
03-06-2005, 07:50 PM
Kill Em' All
Master of Puppets
...And Justice For all
Ride The Lightning


in order, then metallica stopped.

correct...undisputed

sg_sacrifice
03-06-2005, 07:50 PM
^ yeah

metal5711
03-06-2005, 08:44 PM
Master of Puppets kix more *** than ANY OTHER MetallicA album. But yeah, AJFA and RTL are very close behind.

hammet_ownz
03-06-2005, 08:47 PM
i reckon kill em all ****s all over them all, then master of puppets then ride the lightning

i might just be an idiot though lol

Joe
03-06-2005, 09:29 PM
This is my list of albums best to worst, imo:

Ride the Lightning
...And Justice for All
Master of Puppets
Black Album
Kill Em' All
Reload
Load
Garage Inc
St. Anger

ima say...

RTL
MOP
KEA
AJFA
Black
RL
L
GI
SA

Endless Obsession
03-06-2005, 09:30 PM
This is my list of albums best to worst, imo:

Ride the Lightning
...And Justice for All
Master of Puppets
Black Album
Kill Em' All
Reload
Load
Garage Inc
St. Anger

For me it would be

AJFA
Ride The Lightning
Master of puppets
Kill em all
black album
st anger
garage inc
reload
load

but there is no real difference in the first 4, just what i felt like at the moment.

Joe
03-06-2005, 09:36 PM
well there is a diff, the first three have bass. i just like the songs on rtl then the songs on mop then the songs on ajfa etc

bass_boost
03-06-2005, 09:46 PM
I'm begin to play metallica's song there's approximatly 6 months. I play bass and a got to friends that play guitars. I didn't know how great metallica was before i began to play their songs! I am the only one that have this feeling? I got more fun by playing than by listening! Anyway, i just like to know if Trujilo is playing with Ampeg and ESP?

Joe
03-06-2005, 09:53 PM
I'm begin to play metallica's song there's approximatly 6 months. I play bass and a got to friends that play guitars. I didn't know how great metallica was before i began to play their songs! I am the only one that have this feeling? I got more fun by playing than by listening! Anyway, i just like to know if Trujilo is playing with Ampeg and ESP?

I don't know what he plays, but I agree with you. Before I actually started playing Metallica, I didn't realize how technically skilled they really are. It was a lot harder than I thought to learn their songs

PepsiMetal
03-06-2005, 10:07 PM
This is my list of albums best to worst, imo:

Ride the Lightning
...And Justice for All
Master of Puppets
Black Album
Kill Em' All
Reload
Load
Garage Inc
St. Anger

Mine would have to be this:

And justice for all
Black Album
Master of Puppets
Ride the lightning
Kill Em' All
Saint Anger
Garage Inc.
Reload
Load

Most people hate black album, I think it's very good. Especially wherever I may roam. :thumb:

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-06-2005, 10:10 PM
I love the black album. Most people DO like it. And yes, Wherever I May Roam is an awesome song.

Joe
03-06-2005, 10:13 PM
I do to. There are a lot of good songs on there. I don't like DTOM and a few others, but i really like many of the songs on it

Endless Obsession
03-06-2005, 10:24 PM
Mine would have to be this:

And justice for all
Black Album
Master of Puppets
Ride the lightning
Kill Em' All
Saint Anger
Garage Inc.
Reload
Load

Most people hate black album, I think it's very good. Especially wherever I may roam. :thumb:

WHAT?! Nobody hates the black album.

Its just not as good as there first 4.

Hammerheart
03-06-2005, 10:26 PM
The black album is the most overrated album in the universe.

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-06-2005, 11:08 PM
The black album is the most overrated album in the universe.
you're stupid.

blink-182 is overrated. they are ****, and yet some fags like them.

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-07-2005, 12:10 AM
What is the song "Shoot me Again" about?

Chu
03-07-2005, 12:19 AM
Best albums, in my opinion are as follows:

Kill 'em All
Ride The Lightning
Master of Puppets
Garage, Inc.
St. Anger
...And Justice For All
Self-titled
Load
ReLoad
S&M

Any albums I missed?

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-07-2005, 12:22 AM
Best albums, in my opinion are as follows:

Kill 'em All
Ride The Lightning
Master of Puppets
Garage, Inc.
St. Anger
...And Justice For All
Self-titled
Load
ReLoad
S&M

Any albums I missed?
Wtf? You like St.Anger better then S&M, AJFA and the black album? What are you, stupid?

Chu
03-07-2005, 12:25 AM
I guess so.

Westy
03-07-2005, 01:35 AM
the songs on st.anger just aint as good as on mop, black and rtl ...

top 3 lol

mop
rtl
black

lecky
03-07-2005, 02:56 AM
nah the black album is the album metallica tried to write hook's. and it all came out a bit corny for me. previously their genious had just produced hooks naturally, so yeah id agree that black album is an overated metallica album. also 'bass boost' i agree with ya; tallica songs are great fun to play, specially the solos/interludes

Pisungen
03-07-2005, 03:09 AM
No doubt about this:

Master of Puppets (James Totally outriffs any other album)
Kill 'em All (trashy!)
Ride The Lightning
... and justice for all
Metallica

Don't care much about the rest. True there are some great tracks like Breadfan, Bleeding me etc, but not enough to impress me...

And ye Metallica is an overrated album... The riffs aren't that great(pretty simple) and most the solos are wah abuse...

Pisungen
03-07-2005, 03:10 AM
Wtf? You like St.Anger better then S&M, AJFA and the black album? What are you, stupid?

It's better than S&M... S&M is just a metallica cover to me...

lecky
03-07-2005, 03:20 AM
No doubt about this:

Master of Puppets (James Totally outriffs any other album)
Kill 'em All (trashy!)
Ride The Lightning
... and justice for all
Metallica

Don't care much about the rest. True there are some great tracks like Breadfan, Bleeding me etc, but not enough to impress me...

And ye Metallica is an overrated album... The riffs aren't that great(pretty simple) and most the solos are wah abuse...

yeah genious metallica is an overated album........... idiot

Metallica Rules
03-07-2005, 05:27 AM
Does anyone got the Video on Fade To Black 2004 sydney?
I just got mine, and lol it's really funny when James sang wrongly..

lecky
03-07-2005, 05:51 AM
yeah, still put on a good show tho

Metallica Rules
03-07-2005, 07:09 AM
Yup, really a good show, just too bad james sang wrongly, if not totally perfect!

ThrashMaster27
03-07-2005, 07:33 AM
yeah genious metallica is an overated album........... idiot

Erm, it is an overrated album. You even said it was, you plank.

metal5711
03-07-2005, 08:20 AM
What is the song "Shoot me Again" about?

"Shoot Me Again" is about the "Revenge or rather the fight against the desire for revenge" according to encycmet.com. It just shows what revenge does to people and what it makes them do -- shoot people again.

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-07-2005, 09:55 AM
"Shoot Me Again" is about the "Revenge or rather the fight against the desire for revenge" according to encycmet.com. It just shows what revenge does to people and what it makes them do -- shoot people again.
thanks :)

Chu
03-07-2005, 10:16 AM
Easiest Metallica song on guitar? (Don't worry bassists, your time will come soon).

I think it's without a doubt Jump In The Fire.
Edit: That's not including solos, I just don't do solos to be honest.

btoto
03-07-2005, 10:28 AM
I play Jump In the Fire except the last solo. Although I can improvise it

Chu
03-07-2005, 10:31 AM
It's easy aye.
Maybe I should learn the solos?

btoto
03-07-2005, 10:40 AM
Chu
----

Yeah, they're very easy. It's just I'm already sick off learning 'tallica. It was interesting when I just picked up guitar but now I'm more into writing my own stuff.

Although you should learn Jump In The Fire solos. They gave me a few ideas about improvising.

:thumb:

Chu
03-07-2005, 10:57 AM
Well, the reason I haven't tried the solos, I'm kinda new to guitar, only been playing since the beginning of this year, but I've been on MX long enough to pick up a number of different pointers.
I can play Jump In The Fire until the first verse, I'm still kinda learning it, well, there are a few parts I'm not great with timing, an example being:

|------------3-|
|------------3-|
|------------1-|
|-1-3-3-1-3---|

Anyway, I'm petty sure you know the part I'm talking about. Begins around 0:22 Mark I believe.

btoto
03-07-2005, 11:17 AM
Chu, Ok, wait............let me check


Oh here it is:

I tabbed this song by ear, so that's how I play it:

1)--------------------------|------------------------------|
2)--------------------------|------------------------------|
3)--------------3-----------|---------------5-x-x-x--6-----|
4)--------------3---3-3-5--|----------------5-x-x-x--6----|
5)--------------1---3-3-5--|----------------3-x-x-x--4----|
6)-1-3-3-1-3-1-----1-1-3--|--1-3-3-1-3-1-----------------|

3 times x = palm mute that chord 3 times

:thumb:

Chu
03-07-2005, 11:27 AM
Yeah, that's it.
I can do it, just not real speed, at the moment at least.
I'm just playing the same thing over and over, building up speed :)

btoto
03-07-2005, 11:36 AM
Chu
----

Well, if you've been playing since the begining of this year it's OK. Speed will come after you practice a lot. And remember, playing guitar 3-4 hours every day is much more useful than picking it up on a weekend and playing till night. So, good luck !

:thumb:

Chu
03-07-2005, 11:47 AM
Thanks man :)

wrongnote85
03-07-2005, 12:04 PM
does anyone know the correct solos to traped under ice?

fenderbender89
03-07-2005, 12:08 PM
does anyone know the correct solos to traped under ice?

go to Mxtabs.

fenderbender89
03-07-2005, 12:12 PM
I have a really good feeling that Metallica IS going to have solos are their new album. :thumb:
I just saw SKOM it was cool.
on the bonus disc theres a clip of metallica playing with some rapper and on the song they showed Kirk playing a kick *** solo for the song! I think Kirk can still pull off those solos for the new album. :thumb:

Chu
03-07-2005, 12:29 PM
Probably, but in my opinion it's just gonna be wah abuse.
Thus useless. But whatever pleases the masses, I guess.

wrongnote85
03-07-2005, 12:35 PM
go to Mxtabs.

no solos for any of the trapped under ice versions they have. i think they're cool and really want to learn em. anybody hook me up?

as for solo's on a new album, i think they all know they ****ed up with St. Anger, and i think there will be solos on the new one.

munky_magik
03-07-2005, 12:43 PM
Power Tab Program (http://rhythm.harmony-central.com/~ftp/software/windows/guitar-bass/powertab.zip)

Trapped Under Ice Power tab (http://www.powertabs.net/killmesarah/tablature/metallica-trapped_under_ice.zip)

I'mhungryForASandwich
03-07-2005, 01:35 PM
Easiest Metallica song on guitar? (Don't worry bassists, your time will come soon).

I think it's without a doubt Jump In The Fire.
Edit: That's not including solos, I just don't do solos to be honest.
im thinking "Enter Sandman"

Leper
03-07-2005, 01:51 PM
im thinking "Enter Sandman"

In my experiences Wherever I May Roam has proved to be pretty basic. Turn the Page also, tho im not sure if covers count for this topic.

Pisungen
03-07-2005, 02:11 PM
I'm thinking "Nothing Else Matters" :) First song i learned playing to the end...

Edit: Oh and all you guys who are looking for tabs... Buy Guitar Pro and go to www.mysongbook.com ... really some good **** in there... almost sheet music... if this by anyhow is illigal please tell me :)

Leper
03-07-2005, 02:19 PM
I'm thinking "Nothing Else Matters" :) First song i learned playing to the end...

Edit: Oh and all you guys who are looking for tabs... Buy Guitar Pro and go to www.mysongbook.com ... really some good **** in there... almost sheet music... if this by anyhow is illigal please tell me :)

There are so many fairly accurate Tab websites that are free, why would you spend money for maybe 1 corrected note?

Pisungen
03-07-2005, 02:23 PM
There are so many fairly accurate Tab websites that are free, why would you spend money for maybe 1 corrected note?

It's not tabs it's nodes... Sheet music...

Edit: Oh and by the way... I didn't pay... my sponsor pays stuff like sheet music and software ;)

Huber
03-07-2005, 02:46 PM
Sometimes people just prefer sheet music. I definetly prefer it for drums, but I like tabs for guitar better.

Leper
03-07-2005, 02:50 PM
It's not tabs it's nodes... Sheet music...

Edit: Oh and by the way... I didn't pay... my sponsor pays stuff like sheet music and software ;)

Oh ok, i thought it was just another tab site. :thumb:

Joe
03-07-2005, 03:10 PM
To everyone... BUY THE REAL TAB BOOK! It's definitely worth it. They have everything that both Kirk, James, and any other recorded guitar part plays. It's most definitely worth the money.

and thanks for the vote in the Feb thingie :thumb:

Leper
03-07-2005, 03:13 PM
To everyone... BUY THE REAL TAB BOOK! It's definitely worth it. They have everything that both Kirk, James, and any other recorded guitar part plays. It's most definitely worth the money.

and thanks for the vote in the Feb thingie :thumb:

no prob, i noticed your name was absent for a while so i set out to make things right. lol :thumb:

Six Foot Revolver
03-07-2005, 03:15 PM
no prob, i noticed your name was absent for a while so i set out to make things right. lol :thumb:
Thanks aswell :thumb:

bassplayer5540
03-07-2005, 03:34 PM
If he likes those songs he likes Metallica.

well if he only can name master of pupets,fade to black, the one, enter sandman and the unforgiven hes a poser those are the songs that are most famous if u like metallica you can name more tahn that

Six Foot Revolver
03-07-2005, 03:39 PM
well if he only can name master of pupets,fade to black, the one, enter sandman and the unforgiven hes a poser those are the songs that are most famous if u like metallica you can name more tahn that
Just because he likes those songs does not mean he is a poser

Pisungen
03-07-2005, 03:43 PM
To everyone... BUY THE REAL TAB BOOK! It's definitely worth it. They have everything that both Kirk, James, and any other recorded guitar part plays. It's most definitely worth the money.

and thanks for the vote in the Feb thingie :thumb:

I bought the AJFA tab book... and blackened was incorrect... that really pissed me of... since then I've always tabbed my own music...

Six Foot Revolver
03-07-2005, 03:44 PM
Hey MXican, we've been nominated as n00bs! :thumb:
/high five
Boo yeah!

/Spam+

Six Foot Revolver
03-07-2005, 03:52 PM
I was looking for a bass one in my local shop the other day and all I could find was reload :upset:

wrongnote85
03-07-2005, 03:52 PM
I've got MOP, and I havn't found any mistakes, worth getting I would say.

yeah i've got it too and it's helped with the solos a lot. some of the rythem parts in it are incorrect i've noticed, like the pre chours riff in the title track has one part that's not right. that's really about it i think.

as for the poser thing, man he may just be new to this. i know that i recently started listening to venom and the only songs i know are the ones that are "popular" (black metal, to hell in back, heavens on fire). that doesn't make me a poser does it?

Joe
03-07-2005, 03:57 PM
I bought the AJFA tab book... and blackened was incorrect... that really pissed me of... since then I've always tabbed my own music...

I've got RTL and MOP and they are both perfect

SKoRioN
03-07-2005, 04:18 PM
I saw a Metallica tab book in a local music shop a few weeks ago. Would you say it is worth buying or should I just stick to MX tabs ?

Six Foot Revolver
03-07-2005, 04:26 PM
I have:
KEA
MOP
Black album
I have found them to be very accurate, more accurate then mx or other internet tabs.
Edit, post 666 :evil:
Yup, official tablature books > tab forums

Edit:1,083 posts :evil:

Pisungen
03-07-2005, 04:27 PM
Our rhythm guitarist got the KEA tab book, he has not complaints about that. I photocopied some of the book, and everything I saw was fine, so good tab book aswell.

Well tell me... how is the Blackened main riff ( the one just after the backwards intro) ?

SKoRioN
03-07-2005, 04:29 PM
I might have to look into getting some tab books then.
I'm only a beginner so I suppose it doesn't matter that much right now as I can't even do most of what will be in the books anyway but with a bit of practice....ah who am I kidding.

Pisungen
03-07-2005, 04:41 PM
I might have to look into getting some tab books then.
I'm only a beginner so I suppose it doesn't matter that much right now as I can't even do most of what will be in the books anyway but with a bit of practice....ah who am I kidding.

I saw a beginners book the other day, with simplified version of Enter Sandman, Nothing Else, Fade to Black, Unforgiven and One... pretty good for learning... it had a CD with backing tracks too...

Joe
03-07-2005, 04:59 PM
Yup, official tablature books > tab forums

Edit:1,083 posts :evil:

Agreed, i like the tab books a lot

2,573 posts :chug:

Chu
03-07-2005, 05:00 PM
I might have to look into getting some tab books then.
I'm only a beginner so I suppose it doesn't matter that much right now as I can't even do most of what will be in the books anyway but with a bit of practice....ah who am I kidding.
man, don't give up like that. You could be good one day, and if you give up, you'll never know! You have to put in a lot of hard work man, but it will pay off for sure.

By the way, sick avatar, I have a poster of that on my wall :p

willis2441
03-07-2005, 05:33 PM
i just bought some kind of monster,i love it,it was also the last copy in my city,san jose.

Fernandes Power
03-07-2005, 05:55 PM
Tis good...

thelittledrummerboy
03-07-2005, 06:20 PM
I didn't find it all that interesting. Imo

Joe
03-07-2005, 06:24 PM
I didn't find it all that interesting. Imo

I liked it. But now i'm going to go watch Live Sh*t and eat girl scout cookies (man those things are good)

vashts80
03-07-2005, 07:24 PM
well if he only can name master of pupets,fade to black, the one, enter sandman and the unforgiven hes a poser those are the songs that are most famous if u like metallica you can name more tahn that

The One? WTF? It's "One".

BTW.

Unforgiven
Master of Puppets
Fade to Black
Enter Sandman

Am I a poser? Am I? AM I?!

Joe
03-07-2005, 07:26 PM
The One? WTF? It's "One".

BTW.

Unforgiven
Master of Puppets
Fade to Black
Enter Sandman

Am I a poser? Am I? AM I?!

if you like anything besides only enter sandman your not a poser

metal_milita
03-07-2005, 07:37 PM
i personally think that website sucks...there are sites with a TON of more information on metallica than it (www.metallicaworld.co.uk)

i think that metallica.com would be really kickass if the actual band themselves made it
u'd be surprised. even wikepedia (or something) kicks ***. it covers practically anything i can think of about metallica/their music/albums/events etc

metal_milita
03-07-2005, 07:44 PM
if you like anything besides only enter sandman your not a poser
not really true... as a matter of fact not true at all

Joe
03-07-2005, 07:46 PM
not really true... as a matter of fact not true at all

you can like enter sandman, but if its the only thing you like your hardly a metallica fan

PepsiMetal
03-07-2005, 08:21 PM
How can you be a poser by liking a song? I mean sure I can agree that if you like just one metallica song, you're not really a fan, but poser? Come on. It's not like Im going on national TV announcing that I like enter sandman. But I do like most of metallica's songs though.

willis2441
03-07-2005, 08:24 PM
i really dont consider people posers if they like enter sandman or king nothing.but if they say they know everything about metallica and they dont then their a poser.but if they just like one song from them they probly havent heard anything else.i dont like to put people in groups,i hang out with anyone if their cool :thumb:

Joe
03-07-2005, 08:25 PM
How can you be a poser by liking a song? I mean sure I can agree that if you like just one metallica song, you're not really a fan, but poser? Come on. It's not like Im going on national TV announcing that I like enter sandman. But I do like most of metallica's songs though.
But it's enter sandman, there biggest but far from best hit. That's what i mean. if the ONLY song you've heard is enter sandman, i don't think you can call yourself a fan. It's like saying your a zeppelin fan but only ever hearing stairway.

Rasta Rocker
03-07-2005, 08:38 PM
I was a Zeppelin fan for a while, and hadn't listened to stairway....

just a little fun fact for you all

Joe
03-07-2005, 09:00 PM
I was a Zeppelin fan for a while, and hadn't listened to stairway....

just a little fun fact for you all

but thats what i mean. you cannot call yourself a zeppelin fan if all you have heard is stairway. if you've heard more and dont like it then your hardly a fan

guitarloser
03-07-2005, 09:04 PM
There are a lot of posers in life (i may be one on certain issues) i think it gets annoying to have people tell you that your wrong about something and they have no clue what they are talking about

Joe
03-07-2005, 09:05 PM
There are a lot of posers in life (i may be one on certain issues) i think it gets annoying to have people tell you that your wrong about something and they have no clue what they are talking about

if i could rep you i would/ good post

Endless Obsession
03-07-2005, 09:06 PM
Yup, official tablature books > tab forums

Most of those books, or the ones ive seen arent actually "official". They are just really accurate, but they arent actually puut out by the band.

guitarloser
03-07-2005, 09:07 PM
if i could rep you i would/ good post
thanks anyways

Joe
03-07-2005, 09:10 PM
Most of those books, or the ones ive seen arent actually "official". They are just really accurate, but they arent actually puut out by the band.

The ones with the full page cover like the album are good, and look on the back

guitarloser
03-07-2005, 09:16 PM
i've never used an official tab book, i just get them off the web

KILO5203
03-07-2005, 09:41 PM
I learned Creeping Death today. It's not as hard as I was expecting.

willis2441
03-07-2005, 11:00 PM
i dont know how to read drum tabs :upset: i just learn by ear

Huber
03-08-2005, 12:08 AM
Drum tabs are awful. Sheet music is far superior. Learning to read music is key.

guitarcreep13
03-08-2005, 12:20 AM
tabs are easier than standard sheet music Only on guitar (To me)

DJ69
03-08-2005, 01:20 AM
Can someone please help me. There is this really cool upbeat metallica song that i heard, and i dont know what the name of the song is or what album its from, but i think it may be from load or reload. I know i havnt given you much info, but if someone could just name some really upbeat metallica songs and i might be able to figure it out

ArcLite
03-08-2005, 01:23 AM
Can someone please help me. There is this really cool upbeat metallica song that i heard, and i dont know what the name of the song is or what album its from, but i think it may be from load or reload. I know i havnt given you much info, but if someone could just name some really upbeat metallica songs and i might be able to figure it out

Wish I could help chief, but upbeat+Metallica doesn't really narrow it down much. If you think it's off of Load or Reload it might be Fuel. That's about all I can give you. What you can do is go to Amazon.com and listen to the 30 second samples from the songs until you find it.

DJ69
03-08-2005, 01:27 AM
awesome man thanx

\m/Pete\m/
03-08-2005, 02:57 AM
oh to whoever said the Blackened tab is wrong is in fact wrong themselves. My g/f got me the AJFA tab book for my b-day la couple years ago and as far as i can play its accurate

NamJam
03-08-2005, 06:28 AM
I understand that this might not have anything to do with the current flow of the thread, but I'm too lazy to read through 600+ pages.
May I first state, that IMO, Metallica is THE BEST Thrash/Heavy Metal band in existance, and have been for the last 20+ years.

But right now, I can't be more pissed off at them. I listened to St. Anger, and I'm like "What the f*ck?", I then decided to watch their documentary, 'Some Kind of Monster'. Right near the end, where they were having auditions for their new bass player, right as Robert Trujillo starts to play, they play their old songs. Battery, etc. PERFECTLY FINE. So, why in the blue hell did they almost completely change the way they played? They told Kirk no solos ffs... no solos!!! What the hell?! Kirk even send that he didn't want to follow the trend of nu metal. Which all sounds the same. But now, their just starting to follow the trend they started which has been totally f*cked up. Metallica's 'Black Album' (Which is actually called 'Metallica') seemed to me the last album they would release that would be worth listening to all the way through, ruling out S&M and Garage Inc. Don't get me wrong, Load and Reload have SOME decent songs, (that very small list consisting of Ain't My bitch, until it sleeps, bleeding me, mama said, the unforgiven II and Low Man's Lyric) Other songs of course are decent, but they aren't Metallica. Now I'm only 16 years old, wouldn't that kinda make me lean towards today's music, rather than completely shun it out, and listen to good, older music? I seriously hate music nowadays because it's just crap. It all sounds the same. I sincerely hope Metallica can pick up the slack of St. Anger with their new album, they are my favourite band of all time, and the only songs I try to learn on my guitar..(got master of puppets down pat :D)

These are all just my opinions, thanks for reading ^^
~NamJam

lecky
03-08-2005, 06:37 AM
man kirk said he didnt want to do the old style solo's and said he was bored withem. still that mistake aside i respect a metallica fan that sounds like he loves em as much as me.... and master of puppets i bet u cant play the final solo :D - peace

metallicamaniac16
03-08-2005, 06:41 AM
Holy $hit, people. I've been gone for maybe a month, and the thread has increased by 200 pages!!!

metallicamaniac16
03-08-2005, 06:43 AM
man kirk said he didnt want to do the old style solo's and said he was bored withem. still that mistake aside i respect a metallica fan that sounds like he loves em as much as me.... and master of puppets i bet u cant play the final solo :D - peace
yea, that last solo's a beast ;)

guitarloser
03-08-2005, 07:31 AM
Drum tabs are awful. Sheet music is far superior. Learning to read music is key.
yeah, i find it real hard to figure out the rhythms sometimes
sheet music is much easier

cheeb
03-08-2005, 07:33 AM
amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)

We can start with Sanitarium, Leper messia, Ride the Lightning and Dyers Eve.

cheeb
03-08-2005, 07:35 AM
yea, that last solo's a beast ;)

The Puppets solo aint that hard: infact its probably one of Kirks easyest.

cheeb
03-08-2005, 07:51 AM
Well lets give this thread a kick in the ***:

What is your most favorite metallica solo?

I like the ride the lightning solo, because honeslty imo its the hardest one, and i just like it. I also love the unforgiven two solo. it is alot better than the unforg. 1 solo imo...

Ride the Lightening is an amazing solo one of there hardest, But there are harder like Creeping Death-thats a **** hard solo however the hardest solo is Dyers Eve on ....And Justice For All.
(Im glad to see im not the only person who likes Ride, most of the people i Know dont like it)

KILO5203
03-08-2005, 08:01 AM
I agree, RTL is my favorite solo. I can play the beginning of it, but thats it.

cheeb
03-08-2005, 08:10 AM
I dont understand y everyone thinks the puppets main solo is so hard. And why does it take so long for people to reply to these threds... Do u all live in America or something?

cheeb
03-08-2005, 08:28 AM
Do any of u giys have the Live Metallica Fanclub 2001 CD. If u dont i advise getting it its the best cd ive ever heard.

KILO5203
03-08-2005, 08:39 AM
I dont understand y everyone thinks the puppets main solo is so hard. And why does it take so long for people to reply to these threds... Do u all live in America or something?
Alot live in America and are at school or somewhere else this time of day.

shadow_stalker
03-08-2005, 08:53 AM
i dont know how to read drum tabs :upset: i just learn by ear
I hate drum tabs, they are slmost always crap, besides its more fun to make your own stuff up for them anyway.

Six Foot Revolver
03-08-2005, 10:51 AM
Alot live in America and are at school or somewhere else this time of day.
Yup, but I have noticed that alot of the metallica thread are actually British

JACKROXYOU
03-08-2005, 12:31 PM
not me

\m/Pete\m/
03-08-2005, 01:10 PM
or me

JACKROXYOU
03-08-2005, 01:21 PM
straight from texas son

are there a lot of brits here?

SKoRioN
03-08-2005, 01:40 PM
I am :)

Boy how it sucks...

chickbassist
03-08-2005, 01:50 PM
METALLICA KICKS @$$!!!! i love them so f*cking much! i saw them on their madly in anger with the world tour!! they played dyers eve! they hardly ever play that song cause its so fats they dont liek too! im really glad they got rob trujillo, hes pretty cool, i didnt like newstand! but burton was the best of em all! **** bus! makes me sad! yeah metallicas my fav band, i know everything about them! theyre probably one of teh last bands from the 80's! man i wish id been alive in the 80s, thats where all teh good **** came from!

munky_magik
03-08-2005, 01:52 PM
:lol: newstand

armed with a guitar
03-08-2005, 01:56 PM
finally got round to learning 'whiskey in the jar' on my guitar...god that songs ace!! :thumb:

\m/Pete\m/
03-08-2005, 01:58 PM
straight from texas son

are there a lot of brits here?

Texas eh? Well i got you beat with Wyoming....son

Six Foot Revolver
03-08-2005, 02:04 PM
I'm a brit :cool:
and here and munky magik is Scottish

Joe
03-08-2005, 02:21 PM
Yup, but I have noticed that alot of the metallica thread are actually British

Yea, these forums are full of people all over the world (that speak english i assume)

meta guitar's ghost
03-08-2005, 02:23 PM
Hello, for the next ten days you will see me as metal guitar
/was banned :-/