Metallica Inc.

[Nicholas Sutton]

Someone has to set fire to Lars' snare drum. That's just the beginning of my troubles with St. Anger.

[guitarded_chuck]

What do you guys think is Kirk's best guitar solo?

I would say either Dyer's Eve or Phantom Lord.

[MrMight]

dyers eve i say

[TheUnforgiven]

The Thing That Should Not Be solo has some crazy wah in it, but I'd say Dyer's Eve

[borisdablade]

i was at the sydney show on 21st and bdo 23rd and i must say it was ****ing awesome. For their solo show i managed to get about 5 metres from kirk, rob and james at different times in the show, the only dissappointment was i didnt get a guitar pick :(. I had like 10 go over my head, was so spewing. I even lost my voice at one point, screamed MUTHERF*CKER DIE a bit too hard during creeping death. Awesome show, anyone who doubts they are the best band in the world go see them live, they put every other band to shame. Perfect sound, great atmosphere, insane crowd...what more could you ask for.

I bet the singer from the strokes regretted pissing off the tallica fans by singing some of last caress, all you could hear toward the end of the set was the wizard of oz thing from frayed ends.

[borisdablade]

If you'd like a more in depth opinion on it, go to www.epinions.com, search for St. Anger, then look for my review of the album. It will be under the name sacrifice93. Tell me what ya think about it.

Sounds like a cliche review of st anger to me. You say it sucks balls. Yet you give no reasons other than "its repetitive". Why is it repetitive? You dont mention how that it is caused by the subtraction of lead work from the traditional dynamic of the songs. This song is crap, that song is crap. You sound like every other knob who knows nothing about music but has jumped on the hate st anger bandwagon because it is trendy.

[blackend_shadow]

does anyone know if 'tallica are coming to the north of england anytime?

[Brando]

I like:
Hero of the day.
Wolf and a man. Not that I havent heard a lot more songs, but thats my favorites.

[blackend_shadow]

this thread should just die..too much metallica, metallica is already dead.

your an idiot!

[wet surprise]

your an idiot!
youre a hardcore metallica fan arent you?.....DIE!

[ThrashMaster27]

youre a hardcore metallica fan arent you?.....DIE!

Do you want to see 5, 6, 7 Metallica threads a ****ing day? no, I didn't think so.

This thread is a good idea......it keeps people from making loads of Metallica threads that I'm sure you'd hate to see. So keep your trap shut.

[wet surprise]

Do you want to see 5, 6, 7 Metallica threads a ****ing day? no, I didn't think so.

This thread is a good idea......it keeps people from making loads of Metallica threads that I'm sure you'd hate to see. So keep your trap shut.
while youre at it..complain to the mods to make a metallica forum

[blackend_shadow]

youre a hardcore metallica fan arent you?.....DIE!

no not really i just felt like insulting someone :D

[NailHead]

this thread should just die..too much metallica, metallica is already dead.

I want to know what kind of ****head comes into a thread specifically designed for Metallica, and then says they suck, Idiot should know that he's gonna get insulted. Stupid ****head.

[superpeer]

Everything has been said really.

[non-conformist]

who agrees the first solo in trapped under ice is amazing?

[btoto]

i like this solo. but i don't really like the song. trapped under ice is just something like it's not finished. i don't know.

i like ride the lightening, creeping death, fade to black and fight fire with fire from this album .

but my favourite intro solo is no remorse. it just comes so sharp and insane ! wow !

[k*dd]

who here thinks Bob Rock could just die???

I do

Please lock him in so that he is at least 10000km from a studio with metallica

[TaMaRoCkStArCuStOm312]

i read up to page 34 but then i decided to just ask ... anyone know any tour dates for metallica and if they are goin on tour thanx

[borisdablade]

bob rock did black and that was awesome (i dont care if it was mainstream, that was just a tight alround good album), i liked load and reload too, but i reckon st anger would never have happened if they released them as a double cd set in 1994 as they originally planned.

[deftoned]

k*dd! You might be interested in our clan.. MX Titans of Thrash..

[wheelsbolivar]

I'm just starting to learn Metallica solos got any ideas on what would be a good one to start off with?

[Toozey]

Nothing Else Matters

[Per Ardua Ad Astra]

Enter Sandman

[superpeer]

Master of puppets, first solo

[Blanka Flip]

who here thinks Bob Rock could just die???

I do

Please lock him in so that he is at least 10000km from a studio with metallica

I SO AGREE WITH YOU DUDE. :thumb:

[wheelsbolivar]

i just bought s&m, i thought it was really well done, orchestra was amazing, any other metallica dvds as good or better out there?

[BlackNightFalling]

i've heard binge and purge: live $hit is good, i just bought Cunning Stunts, which came out before reload. they didn't even have the lyrics to fuel done yet. i thought it was pretty good.

[Chiefgeezer]

Hey Dudes what do you lot reckon is the easiest 'Tallica songs to drum to?

I find "For Whom the bell tolls" Particularly easy - what about you lot?

Sorry if this question has been asked many times btw but i couldn't be assed to read all of the threads. :D

\m/ >< \m/

[grungeguitarist]

I find that 'For Whom The Bell Tolls' is the easiest on guitar besides the songs on St. Anger.

[btoto]

yeah, i agree that bob **** should be sent to an asylum for jerks. he ruined everything. flemming was much better than him.

although i guess st.anger is better than load and reload. except the fact that i got very disapointed with kirk.

[sacrifice93.2]

yeah, i agree that bob **** should be sent to an asylum for jerks. he ruined everything. flemming was much better than him.

although i guess st.anger is better than load and reload. except the fact that i got very disapointed with kirk.

Thou art crazy.

[Spoot]

I find that 'For Whom The Bell Tolls' is the easiest on guitar besides the songs on St. Anger.

For Whom the Bell Tolls is cake, the intro to Call of Ktulu, and Sanitarium are easy as well. Most of the stuff on Black is pretty simple: Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters and so on...

I didn't even bother to listen to St. Anger all of the way through. I just bought it to see if what people were saying about it was really true. Atleast the stuff on Reload and Load was decent, St. Anger is just ridiculously poor.

[sacrifice93.2]

For Whom the Bell Tolls is cake, the intro to Call of Ktulu, and Sanitarium are easy as well. Most of the stuff on Black is pretty simple: Enter Sandman, Nothing Else Matters and so on...

I didn't even bother to listen to St. Anger all of the way through. I just bought it to see if what people were saying about it was really true. Atleast the stuff on Reload and Load was decent, St. Anger is just ridiculously poor.

That's the point I've been trying to get across for a long time, man. Even though my band does a cover of "The Unnamed Feeling", when I sing the bridge, I don't sound like I'm getting a stick rammed up my ***!

[Steve DeBerg]

I SO AGREE WITH YOU DUDE. :thumb:

:thumb: I second.

[ginggoth]

I know, why don't we discuss the best metallica album?
becuase seriously, i'm at a los, i love puppets, lightning and justice, all the same (kinda) love them all, can play them all, confused on which to name my most favourite!
what about you guys ?

GingGoth

[sacrifice93.2]

Black Album or Master of Puppets for me.

[soundcheckxx]

st. anger was good
its not my favorite but i like it more then load
thats just me

[superpeer]

Ride the lightning is my favourite album, I keep repeating it.

[btoto]

voting for KiLL eM aLL !

[NoHero9]

I cannot and will not pick one album. I have to choose four. ...and justice for all.
Master Of Puppets, Ride the lightning and kill em all

also I would pick S&M but its really only a collection of other songs.

[NoHero9]

With classic Metallica albums like these, can life get any better?
I submit that it cannot!

[btoto]

agreed

[sacrifice93.2]

can't help but agree.

[poserskaterboy]

kill em all was allrite, but ride the lightning, master of puppets and justice was the greatest i couldnt even begin to tell you how much i love them.

[Esp Griffyn]

Load and Reload were my favourites...

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^^

re-load came out when i was in 8th grade (98') and i remember being so upset with it, now as i look at their catalog...load and re-load are almost flawless albums. wonderful riffs, james' best vocal work (lyrics still go to the black album IMO) and i enjoyed the hard rock sound, i would have liked to hear more in that direction...hell, i loved no leaf clover...minus human...and i dissapear, very energetic well written music. i think now that st.whatever is out of their systems they hopefully will write some memorable **** again. load and re-load are masterpieces, simply put.

[JMetallica]

Personally, i wouldn't go as far as saying they were masterpieces, but they are certainly not as bad as everyone makes them out to be. The guitar work and riffs, as you said, are quite enjoyable for hard rock albums, and i certainly still listen to them with anticipation and joy. They just stray further from the metalpieces that their early material were. No leaf Clover is a MAD songs, plain and simple, probably my favourite song on S&M.

Oh, and life can get a whole lot better! :p.... there are countless better albums out there in all different genres of metal, they just have to be found. I fully encourage everyone who worships early metallica to break out of your glass prisons and scout around, your life will never be the same again :thumb:

[Metallica_no_1]

Ride The Lightning, but all albums (not St Anger though) i love.

[xtreme_skatah]

I would say Ride the Lightning

[MrMight]

paster of muppets for me

[NoHero9]

Kermits vocals on paster of muppets were awesome. Not to mention Gonzo singing back-up. :thumb:

[KirkIsKing]

I dont know what the best album is. Its a very hard choice between Master of Puppets and... Ride the Lightning. I also just bought the Kill Em all cd finnaly. absolutely lovely arrangement of thrash metal. I plan on getting load next.

[NoHero9]

ASTRONOMY..........A STAR!!!!


astronomy on garage inc. is an exellent blue oyster cult classic cover. love it

[suffocation]

By the way, anyone with fast connections, you should really download a live version of Creeping death (video) , played in Russia,
it's really cool, the russian police is battering the fans and during the 'die by my hand' they're all going 'DIE' part
It is kickass
i had that whole show on my pc before.

[RideTheSpiral]

BUMP!

[trem7]

hey im not new here i just havent posted yet i just read threads lol..... anyway my favorites song is master of puppets and i think its because i can play mostof it except for the part after the intro i cant get the right tabs for it. anyone have the right ones not the 2 3 4
01 01 01 etc bu the real ones? oh and i like enter sandman, its my ringtone :) and i just started guitar in september and broke mythumb in december and i couldnt play till january uh 15 i think but im not bad.

im glad my first post was in a metallica thread GO METALLICA!!!!

[guitarded_chuck]

http://mxtabs.com/guitartabs.php

Tabs will be on there.

[trem7]

http://mxtabs.com/guitartabs.php

Tabs will be on there.

Really? i never knew

im just kidding yeah i just downloaded the video from '89 and he plays it the way i hate it lol.

[SparkytheGreat]

I read the first few pages of this then skipped to the end...

My all time favorite Metallica song has got to be either Master Of Puppets or Ride The Lightning, its a real close tie.

My favorite member of Metallica had got to be Hetfield, great guitarist and a great singer.

and about St. Anger....


It still amazes me that Metallica made a nu-metal album, its just not what I'd expect from them. Great songs if your a fan of nu-metal, but if your a big Metallica fan (me) it was a big let-down.

[wheelsbolivar]

Hetfield is a great rythm guitar player. plays complicated riffs at an alarmingly fast speed, as for my favourite song, Harvester Of Sorrow or For Whom The Bell Tolls, great songs.

[hex135]

Hetfield is a great rythm guitar player. plays complicated riffs at an alarmingly fast speed, as for my favourite song, Harvester Of Sorrow or For Whom The Bell Tolls, great songs.

:confused: neither harvester of sorrow or for whom the bell tolls are fast at all. wat r u talking about alarmlingly fast speed??

even if u had said fast songs like 'fight fire with fire' or 'damage inc', those are just open E string really fast, which is the definitive of thrash metal, but isnt that hard at all, nonetheless. dave mustaine kills hetfield when it comes to speed and overall talent IMO. they have different styles when it comes to songwriting, sometimes i like mustaine's style better, sometimes james'.

[NoHero9]

He wasnt saying that they were fast(the two songs), he simply stated that they can play fast(James), and on the other topic, he said his favorites were harvester of sorrow and for whom the bell tolls.

[soundcheckxx]

I love ...and justice for all
but my favorite song is fight fire with fire.

[trem7]

i really cant believe how James can play so fast and sing at the same time.... i can't play slow and sing lol.

[Squirrel]

Which songs by Metallica are *alarmingly fast* ? :confused:

i really cant believe how James can play so fast and sing at the same time.... i can't play slow and sing lol.

If you look at what he's playing its simple stuff so not hard at all; mainly open E and powerchords - nothing fancy. Granted he is quite good at singing and playing but there's lots better.

[superpeer]

We know, it's not alarmingly fast, bad choice of words, apparently he hasn't heard a lot of fast stuff. But let's not whine about that. James is still a good rythm guitarist and writes good stuff.

[hahaimdead76]

Thank Allah...I mean God! Metallica has been a nuisance ever since I came to these forums.

[btoto]

you shouldn't compare yourself to hethfield and say that oh my ! he can play this and that but i can't. so i definitely suck. it's not true.

this guy's band has been exsisting for 20 years. plus he played for several years in phantom lord, obsession and leather charm high-school bands. plus he took piano lessons when he was a kid.

so what the hell do you want? at least 25 years. if i play for more than 25 years, plus have noth else to do, like most of us go to school and universities, i'd at lease become a hybrid of vai and malmsteen.

so, don't worry ! just pratice instead of complaining. thats what i'm doing right now. :)

[NoHero9]

btoto! You are very correct sir! i love you for making such a true statement that will help shift topics in this forum! keep up the conversation, but on a different note. :thumb:

New topic: Which Metallica songs(if any) are your favorite to play or sing? :)


Mine: The thing that should not be, Master of Puppets, Harvester of sorrow, the call of ktulu(im gonna learn the whole thing eventually, I SWEAR IT!!!!) oh and i love playing astronomy, although it is a blue oyster cult song.
:smash: :chug:

[Metallicat]

i love what Metallica did to astronomy, they added beef to it, it sounds a lot better than the original. The blue oyster cult isn't exactly heavy lol.

[NoHero9]

Amen brother. My sentiments exactly

[evildemonlemurs]

I just saw S&M and Cunning Stunts the other day and I was blown away. Me and my friend busted out some guitars and played a bunch of stuff because watching those got the adreneline pumping.

[Squirrel]

Lately i've been listening to loads of 'Bodom and In flames - the melodic death scene basicaly, but a few days ago i felt something was missing, so i put in MoP and was blown away like the time i brought it home for the first time. Just something about Metllica that words can't describe. Thought provoking lyrics, heavy / melodic / meaningful / powerful when its appropriate, they experimented and wrote the best **** music on earth.

I just had to say that :)

[mudvaynerock]

dudes **** the technicalities, metallica ****ing rule

[btoto]

to NoHero9:
------------

here's what i like to play: mop, one, nothing else matters, for whom the bell tolls, fade to black, 4 horsemen and leper messiah.
there are easy songs, i can't really play hard ones because i've ben playing for only 8 months.

and leper messiah is one of my favourite songs. shame that tallica guys never play it live. and i can't play it correctly. there is no perfect tab for this song on the net and i had to tab it myself.

[YDload]

So... how about that song "Escape?" Does it sound like Hetfield singing Iron Maiden or what? Especially in the chorus.

[Raijo]

So... how about that song "Escape?" Does it sound like Hetfield singing Iron Maiden or what? Especially in the chorus. Yeah, "Escape" just sounds so unnatural coming from Hetfield's pipes. Escape is a total contrast to RTL it doesn't seem to fit in at all and is just an all around poor song. It sounds so cheesy too, when I picture them performing it live I think of some hair band strutting about doing all these stupid poses. It's so not Metallica.

[Raijo]

to NoHero9:
------------

here's what i like to play: mop, one, nothing else matters, for whom the bell tolls, fade to black, 4 horsemen and leper messiah.
there are easy songs, i can't really play hard ones because i've ben playing for only 8 months.

and leper messiah is one of my favourite songs. shame that tallica guys never play it live. and i can't play it correctly. there is no perfect tab for this song on the net and i had to tab it myself.
I read of an occasion where Metallica played Leper Messiah live, apparently they dedicated to two local television evangelists

[xtreme_skatah]

I like Escape. I listened to it one day and I just got attached to it.

My fav songs are Blackened, AJFA, MOP. I used to love playing Fade to Black but I got bored of it 'cus I plyed it like three times everyday. Creeping Death is pretty cool to.

[JMetallica]

Escape is sweet, as is the song that appears before it. :D:D:D

[Ramsey]

so whats new....i haven't been to this thread even forum in ages..

[ABCthrashmetal]

so whats new....i haven't been to this thread even forum in ages..

Me niether, actually this is my first time in this thread so if i say anything that has already been said, sorry.
A question for the Metallica fans out there who play the guitar,
Can anyone tell me what key Metallica mostly play in? Why do they use this key?
Also what scale(s) does Kirk Hammet use in his solos?

[Squirrel]

Hammet is usualy using E pentatonic scales and a bit of Phrygian ( Where-ever i may roam ), im not too hot on theory so im probably not overly reliable.

[Orion7]

I'm finally seeing Metallica in concert on March 28th... I'm counting down the days. I'm just hoping they play all the good old stuff. But there are so many awesome Metallica songs out there. My favorites are Orion (see name), Fade to Black, Creeping Death, Battery (when you need something heavy), Four Horsemen, Sanitarium... well jeez i have too many to list. And I think the hardest Kirk solo is in Dyer's Eve... the drumming is wicked too. iliketoplaydrums check out the double bass in that song. Lars apparently can't even play it anymore. Is that true?

[Raijo]

I'm finally seeing Metallica in concert on March 28th... I'm counting down the days. I'm just hoping they play all the good old stuff. But there are so many awesome Metallica songs out there. My favorites are Orion (see name), Fade to Black, Creeping Death, Battery (when you need something heavy), Four Horsemen, Sanitarium... well jeez i have too many to list. And I think the hardest Kirk solo is in Dyer's Eve... the drumming is wicked too. iliketoplaydrums check out the double bass in that song. Lars apparently can't even play it anymore. Is that true?
He can't play it live. I think they had to use some special device or something to get him to play that fast. I'm not really sure, sorry, I just know he can't play it live.

[Olliee]

He can't play it live. I think they had to use some special device or something to get him to play that fast. I'm not really sure, sorry, I just know he can't play it live.


And thats just bull****....do you go on the Metallica web site and watch the met on tour videos? i guess not then.

first video for evidence that they may be playing it very soon....

Kirk is practising the dyers eve riff.

Rob busts in to the dyers eve bass line, on "what does rob do when he warms up"


and to top it off. all of the st anger drumming is faster then dyers eve.


edit - the dont play it because of the lyrics.. James was pissed off at his parents when he wrote it.

[Raijo]

And thats just bull****....do you go on the Metallica web site and watch the met on tour videos? i guess not then.

first video for evidence that they may be playing it very soon....

Kirk is practising the dyers eve riff.

Rob busts in to the dyers eve bass line, on "what does rob do when he warms up"


and to top it off. all of the st anger drumming is faster then dyers eve.


edit - the dont play it because of the lyrics.. James was pissed off at his parents when he wrote it.
Can you direct me to these videos?

[Squirrel]

and to top it off. all of the st anger drumming is faster then dyers eve.

Erm, which song on St. Anger is faster than Dyers Eve ...?

edit - the dont play it because of the lyrics.. James was pissed off at his parents when he wrote it.

So what ? they play Until it Sleeps and The God that Failed live and thats about his parents DEATH.. the reason they dont play it is mainly due to the fact that the band cant pull it off respectably due to Lars' poor drumming and that Kirk can't play the solo anymore.

[Olliee]

I read of an occasion where Metallica played Leper Messiah live, apparently they dedicated to two local television evangelists



http://www.allmetallica.com/info/songinfo/lmessiah.html


• Leper Messiah

(Hetfield/Ulrich)

Because of the instrumental style of the song it has also become one of Cliff's trademark songs for many fans.

Album:
Master of Puppets


The song live:
The first time the song has been played live was in the "100 Club" in London, England on a secret gig which has been afterwards called "Damage Inc." on August 20th '87. The entire song has been only played live various times on tour between '87-'89 and once in '92. On the Load tour Metallica played it instrumentally as a pre-encore jam. Such a "Leper Messiah" jam is also included on "Cunning Stunts" which was filmed in September 1997 in Fort Worth, Texas.


Jaymz's dedication:
Once on tour James sarcastically dedicated the song to Jim and Tammy Fey Baker, two TV evangelists who embezzled millions of dollars of charity money.

The claimed credits:
Dave Mustaine claimed he wrote the song's main riff and was not given credit by Metallica. The matter was settled quietly.


The subject matter:
It is about so called messiahs who make a good profit on other people's faith.

"Send me money, send me green"
"Heaven you will meet"
"Make a contribution"
"And you'll get a better seat"

[Olliee]

Can you direct me to these videos?

sure, ill try to get direct links, because you need to log in to watch them.

mms://wm.elektra.com/metallica/metallica_com/2003/mot/dec14_mannheim_300asf.asf

kirk


mms://wm.elektra.com/metallica/metallica_com/2004/mot/jan23_sydney_300asf.asf

Rob


copy and paste them in to internet explorer

:D page 68

[Olliee]

Erm, which song on St. Anger is faster than Dyers Eve ...?



So what ? they play Until it Sleeps and The God that Failed live and thats about his parents DEATH.. the reason they dont play it is mainly due to the fact that the band cant pull it off respectably due to Lars' poor drumming and that Kirk can't play the solo anymore.


Dyers eve is 192 bpm on guitars , master of puppets is faster then this 216 bpm

my world is 200 bpm , but on the cd st anger is te fastest song 216 i think maybe a bit slow.

• The God That Failed

(Hetfield/Ulrich)

The God That Failed" is a personal song for James.

Album:
Metallica


The song live:
The first time the song was played during a concert was at May 30th 1994 in Buffalo, NY. The song was only played live during the gigs of '94 and '95.


The background sound:
In the intro and end of the song there is the background sound of James reloading his rifle as it can be seen in the "A Year And 1/2 In The Year Of Metallica" video.


Why James wrote this song:
James wrote about his mother's death by cancer. She believed solely in her faith to heal her that she did not accept any medical aid. She died.


Song Interpretation:
It is about broken promises.



• Until It Sleeps

(Hetfield/Ulrich)

This song was the first single release of the "Load" album. Based on singles sales it is Metallica's fifth largest hit to date.

Album:
Load


The song live:
It was live performed at the 1996 Mtv Video Music Awards. It was just a fixed part of Metallica's live setlist on the "Poor Touring Me '96 - '97" tour.

The subject matter:
It is another dealing of Jaymz with the Christian-science. It was written by James to cope with the illness of his father by cancer.

"So tell me why you've choosen me ..."

[evilgummiworm]

who else in here thinks that the nothing else matters solo is the best solo, not only by metallica, but by anybody...bar none
hammet really nails it :chug:

[Raijo]

who else in here thinks that the nothing else matters solo is the best solo, not only by metallica, but by anybody...bar none
hammet really nails it :chug:
lol, Hetfield plays the "Nothing Else Matters" solo

[NailHead]

lol, Hetfield plays the "Nothing Else Matters" solo

well, you learn something new everyday. i didn't know that he played that solo cause i thought he was doing the acoustic guitar part, huh?

[Raijo]

well, you learn something new everyday. i didn't know that he played that solo cause i thought he was doing the acoustic guitar part, huh? I'd have to relisten to the song to know what you were getting at with the "acoustic guitar part" but if it was in the background while James was playing his solo it's possible it was an overdub.

[superpeer]

It's a pretty nice solo indeed.

[williwakeupdead]

Metallicas guitar solos are easy, especially all of the One solos. It's just a bunch of fazzle dazzle. Its just catchy .

[Josh1987]

Metallica is my most favorite band. Ive been a fan of them for about 1 year now, and I love most of their songs. I got a few of their CDs, I have Metallica figures with instruments. I know how to play lots of their songs on my guitar, im preety good at playing their songs. I love to play nothing else matters. Most of their songs are my favorite, but if i would choose my most favorite song from them I would choose Unforgiven. My most favorite solo from them is the Master of Puppets solo. :)

[superpeer]

Metallicas guitar solos are easy, especially all of the One solos. It's just a bunch of fazzle dazzle. Its just catchy .

since when does a solo have to be complicated to be good?

[Raijo]

Metallicas guitar solos are easy, especially all of the One solos. It's just a bunch of fazzle dazzle. Its just catchy .
Mind posting the last "One" solo, prove to us how easy you find it.

[xtreme_skatah]

Does anyone know why Lars can't play Dyers Eve live. Like if he can play it in the studio, why is it that he can't play it live. Is it cus of that injury he had when they were making the black album?

[guitarded_chuck]

Does anyone know why Lars can't play Dyers Eve live. Like if he can play it in the studio, why is it that he can't play it live. Is it cus of that injury he had when they were making the black album?

They can make you play anything in the studio...

[SilenceNOmorE]

The Nothing solo is done by James in the studio and live. Watch live footage of them closely. You'll see Kirk is just playing chords, and James is doing the solo on (distorted) acoustic. The reason they probably don't do Dyer's Eve live is just in the interest of preserving themselves (especially Lars, as this is one of Metallica's hardest drum songs to play) for the rest of the show. It's all well and good to bust out Dyer's in a show, but then if you're too knackered to play anything else fast, it kinda ruins it.

Aside from that I'd just like to say that if any Metallica song has been over-exposed, it's Sandman (with One a close second), and that may be a reason why some people forget just how ROCKIN a song it is, simply because they've heard it too many times. (I admit, I find myself skippin over it on the Live DVD's sometimes....) Admit it though, those who have seen Metallica live (I personally saw them at the Big Day Out in Perth, Australia last Sunday, life changing experience, purely phenomenal) can testify to the amazing atmosphere Sandman has, and you cannot help but headbang till your head FALLS OFF whenever that famous riff hits.....

[Bomsen]

I have a question that i been wondering alot about....Who or what the hell is Ktulu...This has kept me up alot of nights...I must admit I like the title, but what does it mean??? :confused:

[Raijo]

I have a question that i been wondering alot about....Who or what the hell is Ktulu...This has kept me up alot of nights...I must admit I like the title, but what does it mean??? :confused:
It's based on a short story, the same short story, "The Thing That Should Not Be," was based on. I can't recall which however.

The actual spelling of "Ktulu" is "Cthulu."

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Hetfield plays the "Nothing Else Matters" solo

I heard he plays the solo in Master of Puppets as well.

[guitarded_chuck]

It's based on a short story, the same short story, "The Thing That Should Not Be," was based on. I can't recall which however.

The actual spelling of "Ktulu" is "Cthulu."

I am fairly sure the book is named "Of Things Not Seen".

[guitarded_chuck]

I heard he plays the solo in Master of Puppets as well.

Hetfield and Hamment play the interlude, or some people call it the first solo. (but it is so easy). Hamment plays the better solo, or the last solo.

[superpeer]

Hetfield and Hamment play the interlude, or some people call it the first solo. (but it is so easy). Hamment plays the better solo, or the last solo.

Hammet (not Hamment) indeed plays the harder and faster solo, but it's not better, Hetfield's solo is so much better.

[guitarded_chuck]

Hammet (not Hamment) indeed plays the harder and faster solo, but it's not better, Hetfield's solo is so much better.

Nah, his solo isn't better. Mainly because it is so easy. It was the first solo, besides Teen Spirit solo, that I ever learned.

[sacrifice93.2]

well, you learn something new everyday. i didn't know that he played that solo cause i thought he was doing the acoustic guitar part, huh?
Watch S&M. Also, if you use distortion, it's not hard to play it on an acoustic guitar.

[superpeer]

EDIT: to guitarded chuck

I know it's easy, but it's not because it's not complex, that it can't sound well. complexity does not necessarily make a good solo.
I like it better, In my humble opinion. :)

[sacrifice93.2]

Complexity can really become signature to a band though. Metallica's St. Anger sucked because it was far too simple. Compare it to the Black Album, And Justice For All, and Master of Puppets, and try to tell me St. Anger was good. You'd have to be pretty ****ing stupid, or pretty ****ing tone deaf to say it.

[pants4sale]

yo people what did you think when metallica released there cover album. i loved it personally but some people say its against some metal rules or something, what do u people think??????

[guitarded_chuck]

I personally like Garage Inc. The Misfits covers are awesome, along with Am I Evil? and Whiskey in the Jar. And I don't see why people don't like bands doing covers. They are just showing appreciation for other bands.

[kreld]

hey guys, just wanted to know, is the second acoutic guitar in the intro to To Live is to Die identical to the first and if not, could someone give me a good tab/guitar pro/powertab file of it?
thx

[FoUrStRiNgFrEaK]

I personally like Garage Inc. The Misfits covers are awesome, along with Am I Evil? and Whiskey in the Jar. And I don't see why people don't like bands doing covers. They are just showing appreciation for other bands.

turn the page is sweet as well

[Metallicat]

Complexity can really become signature to a band though. Metallica's St. Anger sucked because it was far too simple. Compare it to the Black Album, And Justice For All, and Master of Puppets, and try to tell me St. Anger was good. You'd have to be pretty ****ing stupid, or pretty ****ing tone deaf to say it.

So if i tell you that i like it and that i think it's a good cd then you're calling me stupid and tone deaf? whatever man. It's sad that the majority of people who don't like st. anger only dislike it because it was released by Metallica. If it was released by a newer band then people couldn't compare it to other cds from that band and say it sux compared to their older ones.

On another note- If you read the "Bands whos last albums sucked" thread you'll see that obviously Metallica isn't the only band that has released a dissapointing cd lately. It's just that everyone was expecting so much more out of Metallica because they have so much talent that they're not putting to use. I guess if it makes you feel better to call me ****ing stupid or ****ing tone deaf then go ahead, i'm not holding you back.

[linkinpark1987]

To whoever asked what a Ktulu is, I don't know but it came from the same book that James read called Dagon that gave him the idea for The Thing That Should Not Be. It is about people who are sailing on the Mediterranian and something unexpected happens.

[Raijo]

Okay okay that's enough idle speculation as to what the "The Call of the Ktulu" and "The Thing That Should Not Be" is about. I am now going to tell you, and unlike some others I've actually researched this.

http://www.allmetallica.com/info/songinfo/thingy.html
The inspiration [for "The Thing That Should Not BE"]:
The song is based upon the short story "Shadow Over Innsmouth" by H.P. Lovecraft which has been written in 1936. "Shadow Over Innsmouth" was Lovecraft's sole story which has been released as a book when he was alive. His further short stories only appeared in his lifetime in a magazine called "Weird Tales".

The Cthulu (or the, "Ktulu," as Metallica called it) is a creature from the same story "The Thing That Should Not Be" is based on.

[williwakeupdead]

St. Anger sucked because there was a bunch of hype how there going back to there roots, and when you hear that you think oh better solos and riffs like Justice or Master OP, and then they release a piece of crap with no EQ and Trash can sounding drums with 0 solos, its a huge let down. If any other band released that CD would still suck, just like most bands today.

[NoHero9]

That was a pretty cool article raijo. do you got a link for that site?

or i guess ill type it in

[NailHead]

St. Anger sucked because there was a bunch of hype how there going back to there roots, and when you hear that you think oh better solos and riffs like Justice or Master OP, and then they release a piece of crap with no EQ and Trash can sounding drums with 0 solos, its a huge let down. If any other band released that CD would still suck, just like most bands today.

yea, thats why, no ****, it's actually why. their roots lay in hardcore thrash, the next one better be better than St. Anger or I'm gonna give up on 'em

[ZildjianDummer]

yea, thats why, no ****, it's actually why. their roots lay in hardcore thrash, the next one better be better than St. Anger or I'm gonna give up on 'em

if their next album sucks, dont give up on them because there new stuff sucks. Chances are they arent going to make 6 or 7 more cd's, id say at the most they'd make 2 more cd's although i hope they make more bc im a huge metallica fan. Master of Puppets and AJFA are 2 of the best albums i've ever heard.

and by the wayw, im going to a metallica concet in omaha may 12 :naughty:

[Kirk's Puppet]

Any ideas where I can download Metallica's Smoke on the Water Live cover? I downloaded the intro in WinMX but the queue is just too long now, the intro is really **** cool. I can't find it on LimeWire, I'm not using Kazaa...

[superpeer]

*Bump*

[guitarded_chuck]

Any ideas where I can download Metallica's Smoke on the Water Live cover? I downloaded the intro in WinMX but the queue is just too long now, the intro is really **** cool. I can't find it on LimeWire, I'm not using Kazaa...

If you don't use Kazaa, you won't find it, seriously.

[Six_Stringed_Demon]

Bump........And i heard 'The Thing That Should Not Be" is based on an underwater beast called Kracken, probably on that link............

[van_halen_is_god]

my favorite metallica solo by far is nothing else matters. its so simple yet so good.... what do u guys think... o yeah and why the **** wernt there any guitar solos on the new album ... that one pissed me off

[when_im_gone]

Kirks puppet try using winmx thats where i found it.

[sacrifice93.2]

So if i tell you that i like it and that i think it's a good cd then you're calling me stupid and tone deaf? whatever man. It's sad that the majority of people who don't like st. anger only dislike it because it was released by Metallica. If it was released by a newer band then people couldn't compare it to other cds from that band and say it sux compared to their older ones.

On another note- If you read the "Bands whos last albums sucked" thread you'll see that obviously Metallica isn't the only band that has released a dissapointing cd lately. It's just that everyone was expecting so much more out of Metallica because they have so much talent that they're not putting to use. I guess if it makes you feel better to call me ****ing stupid or ****ing tone deaf then go ahead, i'm not holding you back.
If Megadeth or Anthrax released St. Anger, I'd be pretty pissed off! Obviously you dont' know what the f*ck you're talking about. In fact, any band that released St. Anger would have made me angry. Metallica is not a band that releases albums with just 1 good song on them. They're way too good for that. I love Metallica, and they're one of the greatest bands of all time. I definately agree with that. Summer Sanitarium 2003 was a great Metallica show, but they had poor opening acts, excluding Deftones and MuDvAyNe, who ****ing rock. I don't think they're losing it, I just think they had a faux pa (false step) with St. Anger. If I haven't gotten my point across on that yet, you people are nuts.

[Agamemnon]

Allright here's a question for everyone.

What is your favourite Metallica song to play?

and

What do you think the easiest Metallica solo to play is?

:wave:

[Joeeddstealschickens]

At the moment I like playing Fuel and Ktulu,and the easiest solo is the opener to Fade to Black.

[steve6991]

If Megadeth or Anthrax released St. Anger, I'd be pretty pissed off! Obviously you dont' know what the f*ck you're talking about. In fact, any band that released St. Anger would have made me angry. Metallica is not a band that releases albums with just 1 good song on them. They're way too good for that. I love Metallica, and they're one of the greatest bands of all time. I definately agree with that. Summer Sanitarium 2003 was a great Metallica show, but they had poor opening acts, excluding Deftones and MuDvAyNe, who ****ing rock. I don't think they're losing it, I just think they had a faux pa (false step) with St. Anger. If I haven't gotten my point across on that yet, you people are nuts.
mate i totally agree with you. something about st anger that makes me wanna be sick. the drums are awfully tinny, the vocals and lyrics are ****house and the guitaring and bass is tuned down linking park chord crap :smash: :smash: :smash:

[borisdablade]

For ****s sake drop the st anger issue. The album flopped GET OVER IT. It was a necessary step, they gained a brilliant bass player out of it, proved they are still amazing live and can now focus on creating better music. They hadnt been in the studio for 6 years, let alone been a cohesive unit. That impacts on the song writing process. The next will be better, for if you dont like st anger, DONT F UCKING LISTEN TO IT. For Fu cks sake stop filling perfectly good post space with incesent whinging about what is done is done.

On a lighter note, does anyone think the solo in disposable heroes sounds really proggy??? Like DT or something?

[Disillusioned-X]

Well first off st anger i know isnt metallica's best album but you have to consider what metallica went through.
James went sober
Jason left
Bob rock played bass
Kirk injured for some parts of it and also came down from cocaine
Just to name a few

[NoHero9]

firstly, I agree with boris, secondly, I didn't even know kirk had a cocaine problem, and Thirdly, as of now, my favorite metallica songs to play are The thing that should not be, Master of Puppets(who doesnt love playing that?), Leper Messiah, the call of Ktulu, and theres a couple others i enjoy playing, but I dont wanna toot my own horn.

[JamesHetfieldJR]

amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)


A few other good ones are:
eye of the beholder :thumb:
nothing else matters
call of the ktulu
ride the lightning

[NailHead]

Kirk injured for some parts of it and also came down from cocaine


i didn't know that Kirk Hammet was addicted to cocaine. I thought it was just the drinking. I know that they all had to do something about that, even though James was the worst about it.

[borisdablade]

oh and sacrifice the reason your havtn got your point across is because you have no musical knowledge what so ever to support it. It seems everytime i turn around theres another thread with you whinging about st anger with nothing to support your claims. Stop being a bloody sheep, hating st anger earns you no browny points here.

[Agamemnon]

I reckon Sanitarium is a pretty cool song to play and the first solo for that is pretty easy. Also if you have two guitars For Whom The Bell Tolls is a machine song to play.

[dreadlord]

amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)

What About Seek Abnd Deystroy And Die Die My Darling Whicky In A Jar The Are Good Songs Also

[dreadlord]

i play guitar and i love metallica but i cant get the right destition sound to come out especley playing master of pupperts can any one help me with my problem?

[SlipKnoT_Glacius]

favourite song to play are ... Nothing Else matters, Unforgiven II, Master of Puppets (not the solo! I ain't that good yet!), Enter Sandman, Ktulu ...

easiest solo to pull off is Nothing else Matters

[Squirrel]

I think the intro solo in *One* is their easiest.

Currently playing Damage Inc' and fight fire with fire.

[xtreme_skatah]

My favourite song to play is AJFA

[Agamemnon]

favourite song to play are ... Nothing Else matters, Unforgiven II, Master of Puppets (not the solo! I ain't that good yet!), Enter Sandman, Ktulu ...

easiest solo to pull off is Nothing else Matters


Which solo do you play, the electric one or the acoustic one?

[rootboundapollo]

why does it seem that alot of people dont like ...And Justice for all as much?

[rootboundapollo]

1400...and to give it meaning...i like metallica

[borisdablade]

ajfa is a pretty challenging listen man, i hate the production on that album, it sounds flat as all fu ck. But you cant deny the song writing on there, hear those songs live esp the title track, they are just awesome.

[UnknowN Doodl3]

Allright here's a question for everyone.

What is your favourite Metallica song to play?

and

What do you think the easiest Metallica solo to play is?

:wave:


My fav(s) to play are:

-Fight fire with fire
-Leper Messiah
-Frayed ends of sanity (love the main riff)

got more but...

Probably the easiest solo is the first solo
in fade to black.

[Wanker]

Allright here's a question for everyone.

What is your favourite Metallica song to play?

and

What do you think the easiest Metallica solo to play is?

:wave:

1) For Whom the Bell Tolls (of course)

and

2)The first solo in Welcome Home

[UnknowN Doodl3]

1) For Whom the Bell Tolls (of course)

and

2)The first solo in Welcome Home


Yeah I forgot bout that one, it is fun to play. I like
messing with notes and the trem. arm at the end ( don't even
have a wah pedal yet).

[SilenceNOmorE]

As a drummer, my fav songs to play are Bells, (lots of room for improvisation and double kick bits) Ktulu, (same as Bells) Seek and Destroy, Battery, Roam, Puppetz, and Creeping Death, and Whiplash (Death and Whiplash are just REALLy awesome bang your head, have a lot of fun, scream and shout songs, and probably Metallica's best live :D)

I'm sick and tired of playing Sandman and One, and I simply can't play Blackened, although I wish I could.
edit: Blackened is 7/4 and 6/4 with occasional forays into 5,3, and 2/4, Jeez.

[UnknowN Doodl3]

^Can you play fight fire with fire on drums (I know its just fast and nothing special about it, but i<m curious)...

[UnknowN Doodl3]

i play guitar and i love metallica but i cant get the right destition sound to come out especley playing master of pupperts can any one help me with my problem?

I don't know about you, but I use a peavey rage practice amp with my boss
MD2 and my guitar is a black Ibanez and when I play master of puppets,
I put the distortion at 5(at on a scale of 10), The gainc boost at 8, the level at 6, and I put both tones at max, then with the amp, Bass at 3, Middle at
6 or 7 and Treble at 3. Thats how I play master of puppets with my equipment.

[yablo]

Dude, I looking at your list of tunes, I would personally suggest anything from Kill Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, and Garage Inc.. If you want a taste of Metallica's education, check out the New Wave of British Heavy Metal '79 Revisted CD. It was compiled by Lars and a friend of his that writes for the Kerrang! magazine in Europe. You'll hear some of the original versions of Metallica cover tunes such as "It's Electric, Blitzkreig, and Iron Maiden." Until Zakk Wylde popped up, I thought Metallica and Slayer were the last soldiers of good metal. UNITE METAL BROTHERS AND SISTERS!!! WE'RE DUE FOR ANOTHER WORLDWIDE DOMINATION! IT HAS BEEN TOOOOOOO LONG!!! yablo.................... :evil:

[YDload]

My favorite song to play is either Orion or Four Horsemen, but the easiest is probably Enter Sandman. Keep in mind this is on bass.

[dougefresh]

My favorite song to play is probably Fade to Black, Master of Puppets, One, or Creeping Death.

[amber]

I GOT METALLICA TICKETS. I'm really excited because I never thought that I would get the chance to see them live. I'm sure almost everyone on here has seen them twice lol but either way I can't wait!!!!

[Metallicat]

I GOT METALLICA TICKETS. I'm really excited because I never thought that I would get the chance to see them live. I'm sure almost everyone on here has seen them twice lol but either way I can't wait!!!!

I've only seen them once. They're awesome in concert.
Have fun :thumb:

[soundcheckxx]

i just saw them for the first time last summer

you are in for a great time man!!!

[metallica_f**kin_rulz]

i think metallica rocks and they should win sum soughta prize for the best band for so many years, kirks best solo was all of the solos he did in the binge and purge tour, it so rules

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

i just want to hear "disposable heroes" live. as for new songs, james needs to hit the bottle again.

[Steve DeBerg]

My favorite song to play is probably Creeping Death.

:thumb:

[Crocto]

nothing beats the opening breadfan (full version) and master of puppets (full version) when i saw them live.

my roommate showed me something really cool on the offical metallica forums. someone made a poll for the ultimate set list. apprently everyone, i think it got like 900 votes and counting, wants them to play dyers eve. which would rip cause that song is kick-***.

[mynamesucks]

I am hope fully going to see them this year at reading festival

[UnknowN Doodl3]

Does anyone if they are coming to montreal during Their 04' north american tour.
cause they keep adding dates on the official site every three days but I
didn't get a date yet. I 'm pretty sure by looking at other shows they will probably be coming in may, but a date would be nice.

thanx

[Thaiger19]

What album is the song whiplash on???

[Toozey]

Kill Em All

[kirk_wylde]

Ok I know the St.Anger issue is getting old. But I have to say if you heard there new live versions of St. anger songs you'd see they know they messed it up. They've started restructuring them.. kirk keept throwing solos in and the drums sound good. So if they can totally rehash bad songs and make them sound good then you know that they still have some talent left in them. Plus they are alot stronger now they got through all the pre St.anger stuff

[UnknowN Doodl3]

To kirk wylde:

Just read this, some guy posted this on the metalica forum:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I had a lot of doubts about St. Anger upon its release. After 13 years of disconnecting myself from Metallica (not the old albums), I wasn’t expecting anything that I would really like. With albums like Metallica, Load, and Re-load, it was really difficult for me to even imagine them changing from their softer direction. When the day finally came that St. Anger was released, I didn’t rush to the stores, instead, I borrowed a copy from a friend of mine, who had bought the cd. When Frantic started playing, I thought, “Nah, this heavy part will just be a small part of the song.�. But, to my surprise, it didn’t end. In fact the heaviness never ended throughout the album. I was shocked by this new direction, which was actually a modified direction of their old roots.

St. Anger is the modern day Kill ‘Em All. St. Anger is raw, simple, with simple lyrics, much like Kill ‘Em All was. Of course, St. Anger does not sound exactly like Kill ‘Em All, the circumstances are very different. One of the biggest reasons it sounds different, even though they are trying to get back to their roots, is because in their original roots, they had Cliff Burton and Dave Mustaine writing. Cliff is dead, and Mustaine hasn’t been a part of Metallica since 1983. There is nothing that can be done about that. So, they are trying to re-capture the roots without two major elements of the roots. Another thing to consider is the production capabilities of 1983, compared to 2003. Does anyone really believe that if Metallica had the money or production experience in 1983 that they have now, that Kill ‘Em All would have come out the same production as it did? I don’t think so. Also, how long has it been since they’ve actually written music with the attempt to capture the old roots spirit? It’s been at least 14 years. After 14 years of writing music totally opposite or alien to the old roots, it’s really difficult to just start writing in old root fashion and totally ignore the more recent writing styles. They’ve been conditioned to it, so it’s not going to completely disappear overnight. However, if they decide to progress from St. Anger like they progressed from Kill 'Em All to Lightning, Puppets, and Justice, it's only going to get better and heavier.

One of the aspects of St. Anger that gives an indication that old school influenced Metallica is back is in St. Anger the song. The lyrics in the chorus, "**** it all and ****ing no regrets, I hit the lights on these dark sets", those are lyrics that originated from Damage Inc. in a line that goes, "**** it all and ****ing no regrets, never happy ending on these dark sets". Normally, I am not a fan of recycled lyrics, but in this case, I feel an exception must be made because a strong point is being made by the band. They took that line from Damage, Inc. and they have modified it with, “Hit the lights on these dark sets�, with the “dark sets� representing all that is old school Metallica. If that is not a statement about their desire to return to their roots, I don’t know what is.

Is St. Anger the best Metallica album ever? No. Is it better than any of the first 4 albums? No. Is it the best Metallica album to come out since Justice? Absolutely. I keep reading about how people say St. Anger is worst than Load and Re-load, but how can it be worse, if St. Anger's music is 10 times heavier than those two albums combined??? I also read a post sometime ago that said that someone had to have sat in and played the drums in St. Anger because Lars is not that good. That person has either never listened to Master of Puppets or And Justice for All, or has no ear for drums. Lars has always been that good, he just hasn’t used his full potential in 14 years.

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What do you guys think.

[sacrifice93.2]

^^^
Heavy doesn't always mean good. I think Shinedown is more talented than Cradle of Filth, and CoF is heavier. As for reconstructing St. Anger, I think they should re-record it, and make the improvements that they're seeing they should have made. I think The Unnamed Feeling is awesome, but the bridge sounds like Hetfield is getting his guitar rammed up his ***.

[UnknowN Doodl3]

Thats almost the exact answer the guy got from his post in the metallica forum. I'm not going to copy the whole thread, but you should check it out.
What you say is true though.

[MetalliFanChris]

I need a guitar tab version of The Small Hours off Garage Inc. Can anybody help me? Send me an email please!!!

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^

check any site man lol, its a common tab...try www.ultimate-guitar.com


Also, rumors have it that Sharon Osbourne is trying to get Metallica to play Ozzfest.

[Jon]

*Prays*

They don't do the Ozzfest over here anymore, so it don't matter.

*Realises*

But wait, Metallica are playing Download (note the pun) which is instead of Ozzfest, which I'm going to probably.

[Wanker]

^^What is download?

[Jon]

Download = festival at Donnington Castle.

It has different festivals every couple of years on the same general date - first there was Monsters of Rock, then some Kerrang thing (I think), then Ozzfest, now Download.

[Squirrel]

I'm going to Download - mainly for Metallica ( again ).

Oh yeah, good to have you back Jon :chug:

[superpeer]

I might see Metallica at Werchter, If I go.

[Squirrel]

I might see Metallica at Werchter, If I go.

Go, go, go man !! you WILL regret it if you don't,

Where's Werchter ?

[superpeer]

Belgium of course. ;) http://www.rockwerchter.be/index.asp
There's a list of some bands that are coming. ( for now)

[btoto]

hey guys, could any of you tell me what the hell is the white crap kirk always has on his right hand ? i've read that it's because of palm-muting, but i didn't get it. can anyone please give me a clear explanation?

thank you

[Squirrel]

Belgium of course. http://www.rockwerchter.be/index.asp
There's a list of some bands that are coming. ( for now)

Thanks :thumb:

Btoto - some people wear bands or tape around their palmsto A: look cooler and B: it can give a rougher sound to your palm muting; try it with masking tape and it puts an edge to the tone.

[Morning_Glory]

I am a massive metallica fan and I am sorry for bringing this up but I have to.
What do you guys think of the whole napster issue? Do you think Lars was an asshole?

[RideTheSpiral]

Lars blows.

[Morning_Glory]

And why exactly does lars "blow" buddy?

I would now personally like to flame the living **** out of everyone who hates lars because of that whole napster issue.
You do understand that Lars volunteered to express the whole bands feelings about that, it wasn't just lars you know, he just decided to take the rap for it by announcing metallica's decision to fight that battle. Everyone seems to blame lars solely for the issue, they hate him because he was the only one who didn't want the music beong downloaded for free.
Well your wrong because it was the whole band who didn't want this man!
James Hetfield clearly said on an interview that the band nominated Lars to be the spokesperson for metallica, the whole band felt the same about the issue and hetfield said it was brave of Lars because the band knew that Lars was gonna take the rap for evrything.
All ppl who hate lars for this stupid **** are a bunch of ****ers, Lars is the life of metallica, without him there is no metallica!
Your all a bunch of cunts you know!

Lars Rules, man!

[LordDargon]

^^ Ok. So then the whole band blows :p

Their music (old stuff) is great, beyond great, it's perfect. But they, as people, are now greedy asswipes.

[Morning_Glory]

Why do you feel that they are greedy, I think the hate has moved nowadays from Lars to hetfield ever since st anger because evryone keeps saying he is a poser and evrything, I dont see anything worng with him. How come all these so called metallica fans seem to always hate a certain member of the band, whats the ****in point man?
You dont know these ppl so how can you hate them, it is not like they are pop stars acting all hard or posing all the time. Yopu can hate pop stars for these pruposes for when you see them on Saturday morning tv shows and **** but metallica? They are a metal band, anything other than the music remains between the band and family, you cannot hate them because you do not know them!

[LordDargon]

...they sold out hugely, load and re-load were not metal, St. Anger is... not GOOD metal, how are the NOT greedy?

[btoto]

Thanks :thumb:

Btoto - some people wear bands or tape around their palmsto A: look cooler and B: it can give a rougher sound to your palm muting; try it with masking tape and it puts an edge to the tone.

thanks pal. however i think it's useless. why didn't he use it before?

[superpeer]

...they sold out hugely, load and re-load were not metal, St. Anger is... not GOOD metal, how are the NOT greedy?

Maybe because they just didn't like the fact that people were downloading their songs.

For example, people download separate songs, but Metallica prefers them to buy albums, because :

They hear every song, like, the album is the painting, and people just download a part of it, plus they want people to read the lyrics. Just One possibility.

[Jon]

B.b.b.b.b.but Lars can play the intro to Nothing Else Matters! He rawks.

Not.


Now now kiddies. Do the right thing. If it is an album with one or two songs you like then the rest are fillers, download the songs you like. If it is a great album then buy it.

Thats why people don't buy rap albums.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Why do you feel that they are greedy, I think the hate has moved nowadays from Lars to hetfield ever since st anger because evryone keeps saying he is a poser and evrything, I dont see anything worng with him. How come all these so called metallica fans seem to always hate a certain member of the band, whats the ****in point man?
You dont know these ppl so how can you hate them, it is not like they are pop stars acting all hard or posing all the time. You can hate pop stars for these pruposes for when you see them on Saturday morning tv shows and **** but metallica? They are a metal band, anything other than the music remains between the band and family, you cannot hate them because you do not know them!

I see what you're saying, and I agree. Thing is, all the real hardcore fans don't like this new image they've made for themselves through St. Anger. I personally still like them just as much as ever. Also, I don't see anything wrong with any of the band-members, the only thing that annoys me about them is the way they treated Newsted but thats a different story!

[Jon]

Newsted was a twat who couldn't play.


Now Hetfield has his hair back, his sin of St Anger is redeemed...



Actually some of St Anger was good, if it was by ANYONE else I would like it as a nu-metal album, as it stands its a letdown and I want thrash
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[FACELESSnotBASSLESS]

^^ Ok. So then the whole band blows :p

Their music (old stuff) is great, beyond great, it's perfect. But they, as people, are now greedy asswipes.

Yeah... I don't understand where they went wrong. When the 'Wherever I May Roam' tour began after the Black Album was released, they allowed fans to record the concert and sell bootlegged material because they figured that people at the concerts already owned most of their stuff anyways. Somewhere, though, the fame got to them and now, yes, they are greedy asswipes.

And to whoever said Lars blows, I highly disagree with that. Lars began Metallica with Hugh Grant, James Hetfield, and I believe the bassist's name was Ron McGovney or something like that. He's been sitting with the band, trying new things since they began when they were teenagers. Even Hetfield didn't play guitar with the band at the start. Lars has pioneered the drums featured in metal, from just a high-speed constant beat or quickly played rolls, to something that brings out, even increases the quality of the band's music. To say he blows, I find, is like saying there should be no variety in metal drumwork.

[Morning_Glory]

Newstead was a twat eh?
I take it you are not a 'tallica fan then, I think he could play very well actually, I bet he can play about 50 times better than you, he was no cliff burton but he was a **** good bassist.
And what happened to newstead, someone said it was dissapointing the way he was treated. I thought he left because he didn't like the direction the band was taking and he wanted to get started on his side project.

[Squirrel]

Now Hetfield has his hair back, his sin of St Anger is redeemed...

They're really getting back to their old roots now; they're playing older songs more ( 4 horsemen, Damage inc, Fight fire with fire ), theyre re learning Dyers Eve and they seem to be playing smaller and more frequent gigs if you look at the videos on their site. It's amazing how great it feels to see Metallica back on track again; seeing them again soon :D :thumb:

Secondly, Battle of the Bands is coming up - we want to do 2 Metallica songs; we chose For Whom the Bell Tolls for pure chug and heaviness and Damage Inc for speed; anyone got any suggestions for other songs that may be easier or jsut sound better? Cheers.

[UnknowN Doodl3]

^^^If you want one with speed AND heaviness at the same time, try these:

- Fight fire with fire
- Leper messiah (that one isn't as fast, but its **** heavy and the solo is cool...)

[Jon]

Faceless:
Hugh Grant? What are you smoking?

Morning Glory:
I'm no bassist. Newsted was indeed a twat. Even MonkeyMan is cooler than him (Newsted didn't even look comical on stage).

Squirrel:
I know what they're playing nowadays...Lets not forget I was second row on the 20/12. We got an incredible setlist I thought (Go back maybe 30 pages and I did a review of the gig).

[Squirrel]

Squirrel:
I know what they're playing nowadays...Lets not forget I was second row on the 20/12. We got an incredible setlist I thought (Go back maybe 30 pages and I did a review of the gig).

Oh yeah dude im not saying you know nothing im just backing up your point etc ;), i know it sounded like i was a know all but iwas just saying it for others and elaborating your point. I saw them at Leeds and they were phenomenal; i waited 4 years to see them :)

[Squirrel]

- Fight fire with fire
- Leper messiah (that one isn't as fast, but its **** heavy and the solo is cool...)

Hmm good ideas but they don't really stand out as crowd pleasers; you've got to like thrash / metallica a lot to like those songs. Theyre not as accessable as, say, One.

[Jon]

So?

Fight Fire With Fire was great live. Battery is cool, just because its an amazing song.

If you've got a commercial sellout audience, try Fuel or Sandman (actually Fuel rocks and is crowd pleasing...)

[Squirrel]

^ True; we're aiming for crowd pleasing because not everyone that goes is a metahead. I mean we REALLY wanted to do some good heavy songs and stuff; we even busted out loads of 'Bodom but that just wouldnt be good at school ( oh yeah its at school BTW ). So we thats the situation we're in.

[UnknowN Doodl3]

Hmm good ideas but they don't really stand out as crowd pleasers; you've got to like thrash / metallica a lot to like those songs. Theyre not as accessable as, say, One.

I was going to suggest to live is to die but it has almost no vocals. I'm not sure if thats what you guys are looking for. If I were you I would stick to damage inc.( :thumb: ) and if not everyone is a metalhead like you say you might want to try lets say maybe fade to black... I think that one would be good.

[Squirrel]

Thats true ^ i think we'll stick to Damage Inc and For whom the bll tolls and a couple by other bands; we already know most of those 2 songs anyway.

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Hey,Squirrel,play Creeping Death.

And Newstead was a poor bassist.No one can ever be Cliff,but Rob Trujillo is better than Newstead ever was.He left the band because him and James Hetfield didn't get on too good,so he went and joined Vovoid.He said something to the press a while back about re-joining Metallica if James Hetfield asked him to "make his good songs great".When Trujiilo starts to write with the rest of the band then it will help them get broader ideas too.

[FACELESSnotBASSLESS]

Newstead was no good. I agree there. That's mainly why the band hazed him for over a year, and Hetfield still continued up to date. None of them got along and Hetfield didn't feel it was worth it for a musician who was less-than-great. Trujillo is better, but they desperately need another Cliff Burton...

[zeppelin_rules_62]

Desperately...

Old Metallica - Average
New Metallica - Disgraceful

[Jon]

How about Motorbreath? I love that song, and you don't need tons of distortion for it.

[Squirrel]

^ Thats a good idea but too late :( / :). We've decided on For Whom the Bell tolls and The Four horsemen ( i dunno why we overlooked it for so long ). BUT we are playing in assembly soon so Motorbreath would be cool :thumb:

[SilenceNOmorE]

What's with all the Metallica hate? It's just weird to hear all these self-proclaimed "hardcore fans" disiing the hell out of Metallica.
Cliff Burton= god-like. We all know that. He was one in a zillion. So I think it's pretty useless to bother comparing Cliff and Jason and Rob. As bassists, they all have their own particular style. (My only regret/wish is that they got another bassist who could sing, cos Kirk can't. :( )
I admit that St. Anger is flawed, the songs are too long yada yada, but it's still pretty **** good, maybe not ground-breaking and world changing like the black album or puppetz, but still pretty solid. I don't consider myself a "hardcore fan," simply cos I don't own all their albums and have really only been an avid fan since last year, but I do believe that every single note that Metallica have played is pure ****in genius. Maybe it's not a good thing to be a "hardcore fan." Cos all hardcore fans seem to ever do is bitch about how much their most favourite band in the world sucks.

P.S; Metallica is not greedy, they still allow the fans to bootleg, they actively encourage trading of live shows (after all, "illegal" tape trading was pretty much how Metallica gained a big reputation in `81 and `82.) What they are, is artists. They objected to in the Napster fiasco is that they did not get the chance to give permission to place their songs up for download. Those songs were put on Napster against their will, and that was what Lars objected to.

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Well said that man, though i can see where some of the hate comes from.If you own a copy of Load,then you'll know why.It is an album of ballads from a band who pretty much started thrash.Also look at the image change in the sleeve.They are all tarted up in eyeliner and short hair.Then look on the back of Puppets.Four angry young men stick a finger up at the establishment.They started to become what they had previously stood against.ReLoad was better,though style-wise the same.Fast-forward to 2003.An album of pure carnage,showing a band rediscovering what made them special.But guess what,no solos and bad editing made the 'hardcore' fans jump around screaming "nu-metal".Well f**k 'em,I say.St.Anger is a good album.Bad song editing but good album.However,I don't see 'hardcore' fans slamming ...And Justice for All cos of the mix.

[Squirrel]

Oh yeah when we do Battle of the Bands i'll see if a can get some recordings of us :thumb:

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Cool.And well done on choosing 'The Four Horsemen'.It's a class song.

[Squirrel]

^ Yeah, i can't believe we looked over it; i bunged in kill em All last night and listened, and the rest is history :)

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Kill'Em All is full of good oppurtunities for covers,like Phantom Lord,Motorbreath,Seek and Destroy and Hit the Lights. The only Metallica we do in my band is Enter Sandman and we might do Battery.

[milnersj01]

Damage inc is 1 hell of an ace song n ilike2playdrums thinx the lightenin solos hard well laddy/or girl? try tht solol i think its summat like 20.8 notes per second in 1 part.

[Jon]

...Thats not fast ;)

Just tremolo picking.



How about wearing spandex and playing Escape :lol:

[Morning_Glory]

It was not just klars objecting to napster, it was the hole **** band for ****s sake, they nominated lars to be spokesperson and front the campaign.
I ahve being paying guitar for a year and how the hell do you play that Four Horseman intro, the bit where it is palm muting switching between 5 and 7 on the a stering and hiting open E? It never sounds right when I play it.

d---------------------
a-5-7-5-7-5-7-5-7----
e-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0----

the bit above is what I cant nail, it never sounds right, when I play it I can only hear the e string, I can never hear the notes on the A string properly.

[Morning_Glory]

that damage inc solo isn't fast heh? Is that why its the 6 fastest shred solo ever?

[Squirrel]

^ I refuse to believe Damage Inc is 6th fastest. I can name 6 Petrucci solos alone that are faster.

[Joeeddstealschickens]

I saw a list of the top 10.They are:
1.Steve Vai-The Riddle(20.8 notes per second)
2.George Lynch-Wicked Sensation(19.8 nps)
3.Kirk Hammet-Damage INC(19nps)
4.Paul Gilbert-Addicted to that Rush(18.8nps)
5.Eddie Van Halen-You Really Got Me(18.7nps)
6.Joe Satriani-The Mystical Potato Head Groove(17.6nps)
7.Nuno Bettencourt-He-man Woman Hater(17nps)
8.Yngwie Malmsteen-Far Beyond the Sun(16.8nps)
9.Marty Friedman-Ashes in your Mouth(15nps)
10.Steve Morse-Tumeni Notes(14nps)

so there you go.

[Squirrel]

So where is Marcus Paus with 44 ? and Paul Gilbert with 40 ? ^, or am i being stupid and missing something here ?

[Joeeddstealschickens]

That's what the article said,I'm just writing it down.I haven't even heard half these songs!If you want to check it,it's in Total Guitar mag,issue 118.

[superpeer]

How about this :

Who the hell cares what the fastest solo is?

:)

[Joeeddstealschickens]

a)all the people who posted before you and b)it's just a point of intrest

[superpeer]

a)all the people who posted before you and b)it's just a point of intrest

I don't see what's so interesting about it.
Music is not a competition.

[RareMana]

thats probably cause your a guitar n00b who can only play power chords and you think tom delonge is the greatest guitarist ever.

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Music is not a competition.

You're right,though I never said it was.It's just like comparing how fast an athlete can run,or how slow a slug goes.It just comes from listening to a solo on a song and thinking "****,that's fast."We're just taking it a step further and wondering just how fast the solo is,and in comparison to other guitar solos.If you want to,then call it 'appreciating an artist for their talent'.The rest of us will call it 'comparing the speed at which some guitarists can shred'.

[superpeer]

thats probably cause your a guitar n00b who can only play power chords and you think tom delonge is the greatest guitarist ever.

Yeah, you're absolutely right, good point. :rolleyes:

You're right,though I never said it was.It's just like comparing how fast an athlete can run,or how slow a slug goes.It just comes from listening to a solo on a song and thinking "****,that's fast."We're just taking it a step further and wondering just how fast the solo is,and in comparison to other guitar solos.If you want to,then call it 'appreciating an artist for their talent'.The rest of us will call it 'comparing the speed at which some guitarists can shred'.

Alright, you have fun comparing solos. I'll keep out of it. :p

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Tom DeLonge has got some great (punk) solos if you don't mind,RareMana.Not that fast,but the one on Degenerate and the one on Reebok Commercial are great.

*slaps self in face for confessing liking of Tom DeLonge*

[UnknowN Doodl3]

I had an argument with two of my friends concerning the speed of the master of puppets solo. They were talking like it was the fastest solo on eath. Here's what one of them said:

"The solo is ****in hard its like 4 notes per second!"

I was laughing my head off!

But is it true that its really fast or does it just sound fast.

[Wanker]

^^While that solo IS fast, its still not as fast as the solos in Ride the Lightning.

[superpeer]

and they aren't as fast as the solo from damage inc.
And that is not as fast as some other solos.

Case closed :smash:

[UnknowN Doodl3]

One question for anyone who can play anything. How much time of guitar playing did it take for you guys to play the damage inc solo. I'm curious...

[UnknowN Doodl3]

Which, by all means, is The most incredible solo you've ever heard Hammet play and on which album is it. I want to know what people think, if this has been done before then give me a link.

[YDload]

I think the first Fade to Black solo is the most incredible one for me. It's certainly not hard or anything, but it gives you that nice tingly feeling.

[metaliq]

<something about metallica>

I dislike the new metallica cd. the sound quality seems crappy (to me at least) and it was too repative. And it just wasnt *metallica*.

I am wearing a master of puppets shirt right now. Go me.

</something about metallica>

[Wanker]

^Yeah, definitely that one and the last one in Welcome Home (Sanitarium) are both very memorable.

[Joeeddstealschickens]

The best Metallica solo is 'The God That Failed'.

[superpeer]

I like the 'ride the lightning' solo.
Also the 'blackened' solo and 'one' solo.

[NoHero9]

I like all of Metallica's solos. they all hit home. They all make me feel tingly, deep down inside, where im soft, like a woman.

also, I like a lot of wah wah in solos.

[cb_drummer@hotmail.com]

well if deres any drummers out there hoo fink METALLICA ROCK (an for anyone hoos anyone finks metallica rocks) Dyers eve is one of da best songs in da world i love how fast lars can play the double beater i got mine like awile ago and i cant play nearly as fast. for i like to play drums here are sum songs:One,Sanitarium,Blackened,I Dissapear,sweet amber,creeping death,da call of ktulu(that rules!!),master of puppets,Ride da lightenin,The Four Horsemen (dat rules too),mi freind in misery(one of ma favourites and for whom da bell tolls, hell they all rule. they r jus a few of me favss hehheh theres so many so jus go on a downloader like limewire or kazza an type in metallica THEY F***IN RULE!!!!! c yaz all

[cb_drummer@hotmail.com]

^ oh ok i get it. I think metallica is trying to say, if "any ones gonna play nu metal, we'll be the ones and we'll perfect it." Basicaly a big f u to nu metal bands today..
apart frm their not nu-metal but hey they rule anyways!!!!! i love one cos it has a wicked solo an i can play it on da drums (i finally got da double beater bit rite!YAYYAY c yaz all

[NoHero9]

wow that was a very annoying read. All that "fing" and "fank" and unfinished words.

try not to do that. Please

[Jon]

That's what the article said,I'm just writing it down.I haven't even heard half these songs!If you want to check it,it's in Total Guitar mag,issue 118.

Only n00bs / sk8r kids read Total Guitar. Its too commercial. I doubt that 5 of the readers have heard of TD Clark (Or even Mr Cooley for that matter (remember my guitar teacher has had a lesson from Cooley))...

[Joeeddstealschickens]

Only n00bs / sk8r kids read Total Guitar.Its too commercial

^Only closed-minded fools post statements like that.It is commercial because it is a magazine.I read TG cos it has a f**kload of tabs and backing tracks of songs I actually want to learn,like Hendrix or Metallica etc. The only other option on the market (really) is Guitarist,which has one 'classic track' every month,like 'Texas Flood' by SRV.I don't know about you,maybe your just a superhuman eletist whose guitar talent needs no help, but a lot of us play for enjoyment and hobby, and a mag like TG gives the oppurtunity to learn more songs and tehniques to further our playing.