Metallica Inc.

[Joe]

I'm assuming you've never actually listenned to Kill 'em All?

no it's just i couldn't possibly pick from that album. so i picked songs other than KEA

[Joe]

Well it wouldn't be possible for you to like the album version better cause there is no bass on it :rolleyes:

Well there's bass in every Metallica song, but you can't hear it in half of them

[shadow_stalker]

Well it wouldn't be possible for you to like the album version better cause there is no bass on it :rolleyes:

i knew that, was asking for a joke.

*was also hoping he would say something like "yes the album version rocks" so i could laugh, but he didn't* :upset:

[Joe]

i knew that, was asking for a joke.

*was also hoping he would say something like "yes the album version rocks" so i could laugh, but he didn't* :upset:

THE ALBUM VERSION ROCKS!! but live is better

:thumb:

[shadow_stalker]

Well there's bass in every Metallica song, but you can't hear it in half of them

To me that is the only weak point of the justice album, you can't hear any bass (if there even is bass on it)

[Joe]

To me that is the only weak point of the justice album, you can't hear any bass (if there even is bass on it)

i agree completely. i love AJFA, it's just the producer did a poor job of evening out the volumes

[Chu]

no it's just i couldn't possibly pick from that album. so i picked songs other than KEA
And by Kill 'em All I wasn't just trying to say the obvious Anesthesia.
**** like Jump In The Fire, The Four Horsemen etc. All have bloody amazing basslines imo.

[CreepingDeath~]

Well there's bass in every Metallica song, but you can't hear it in half of them

What I meant is there is no bass in AJFA, and One is in AJFA, so you have to like the live version better for bass, because there is no bass in the studio one.

[vashts80]

Some people ask if they just never recorded the bass and made up the excuse that the mix got ****ed up and the bass can't be heard. I'm one of these people.

[Joe]

And by Kill 'em All I wasn't just trying to say the obvious Anesthesia.
**** like Jump In The Fire, The Four Horsemen etc. All have bloody amazing basslines imo.

yea, KEA is full of amazing bass

where is it?

http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=300287&page=1&pp=25

or from the main page--> misc --> site --> Rep ID thread

[Joe]

Some people ask if they just never recorded the bass and made up the excuse that the mix got ****ed up and the bass can't be heard. I'm one of these people.

I really doubt it. Jason was the new bassist on that album. The only album they would use that as an excuse could be St Anger bcuz it was between jason and rob. jason did most of ajfa, you just can't hear it

[shadow_stalker]

Some people ask if they just never recorded the bass and made up the excuse that the mix got ****ed up and the bass can't be heard. I'm one of these people.

i often wonder that aswell, i just used to think that they actually made justice during the time after Cliff died and before Jason joined.

but considering what a small gap it was i don't think so

[Chu]

Some people ask if they just never recorded the bass and made up the excuse that the mix got ****ed up and the bass can't be heard. I'm one of these people.
There is bass on it, you know....

[shadow_stalker]

There is bass on it, you know....

yeah but its just that its so quiet you tend not to notice it.

[metal_milita]

top 5 vocals

1)NEM- Beautiful Voice
2)Fade to Black- Makes me very scared
3)Unforgiven- Just plain nice singing
4) (tie) Creeping Death/Blackened/Dyers Eve- His perfect metal voice IMO
5) Ride the Lightning- haha, young james. When I first heard the opening word *Guitly*, I thought it was going to be a guitar solo

[metal_milita]

AJFA does have bass, I can hear it on my discman so easily. Its not that loud obviously, but to say things like "maybe they never recorded it" is stupid, i can hear it

[led_zep_luvr]

everyone check your rep, i just gave alot of people positive rep in this thread, i signed it..........


random rep for metallica fans - led_zep_luvr

[led_zep_luvr]

/ hopes for some pos rep in return :D

[Freezing Moon]

/ hopes for some pos rep in return :D

Going rep fishing, eh?

[Chu]

top 5 vocals

1)NEM- Beautiful Voice
2)Fade to Black- Makes me very scared
3)Unforgiven- Just plain nice singing
4) (tie) Creeping Death/Blackened/Dyers Eve- His perfect metal voice IMO
5) Ride the Lightning- haha, young james. When I first heard the opening word *Guitly*, I thought it was going to be a guitar solo
Bah, can't give you rep, but yeah man :)
Love Ride The Lightning, also agree with you on the ...AJFA bass thing.

On a side note, not about to commit suicide soon?
The songs you picked are pretty depressing.
Although, I think I might understand Fade To Black (Like what the lyrics mean).

[Chu]

/ hopes for some pos rep in return :D
I returned the favour man :)

[led_zep_luvr]

I returned the favour man :)
:thumb:

[Britt420]

oh i love metallica. easily my favorite band. i've got all the albums. just can't get enough of them. i like the old stuff, and even the new stuff.

i'm not surprised that my first post on here was about metallica!!

[led_zep_luvr]

oh i love metallica. easily my favorite band. i've got all the albums. just can't get enough of them. i like the old stuff, and even the new stuff.

i'm not surprised that my first post on here was about metallica!!

welcome to the forums :thumb:

[Britt420]

hey thanks man. music is my passion, i had to sign up. ;)

[CreepingDeath~]

hey thanks man. music is my passion, i had to sign up. ;)

Welcome to the boards: :D :chug:

[Britt420]

hey thanks. some of you guys are pretty chillin! :thumb:

[Deth]

some of them...

But try playing bass along to AJFA, it gets old really fast. You can't make out fills and stuff.

[supra_speed]

I'm a real sucker for that solo at the begining of Trapped Under Ice. heh.

Your not the only one. :)

[supra_speed]

oh i love metallica. easily my favorite band. i've got all the albums. just can't get enough of them. i like the old stuff, and even the new stuff.

i'm not surprised that my first post on here was about metallica!!


Good on ya. Welcome to the f0rums. :thumb:

[metal_milita]

Bah, can't give you rep, but yeah man :)
Love Ride The Lightning, also agree with you on the ...AJFA bass thing.

On a side note, not about to commit suicide soon?
The songs you picked are pretty depressing.
Although, I think I might understand Fade To Black (Like what the lyrics mean).
lol no those aren't my "favorite" songs, those are the songs i believe james sang the best.
Thats the thing about james, he uses his singing voice (lol) only in the songs hes put a lot of emotion and thought into.

[Britt420]

i love james' voice. from the growling, to the screaming, to the singing. i think he's a great frontman. lars is amazing on drums.

[Joe]

ok so my little step sister bought a ouija board...weird kid

so she tried it with my sister and my sis said "let's talk to cliff burton!" so they "talked" to cliff burton. the mysterious thing is that neither of them knew he died in 1986, and the ouija board said that cliff died in 1986.

so i tried it, and talked again to cliff burton. i asked where he died, and he said "sweden." i asked how he died, he said "bus accdent" (notice the spelling, my sis's are very good spellers). i asked who is a better guitarist, he said "kurk" (once again, notice the spelling). i asked if dave was kicked out because of alcohol, he said "yes." i then asked who he was better friends with, dave or kirk. he said "dave"

(and apparently hendrix died of pot and heroin in 1970, which neither of my sis's knew)

does anyone think this is really weird? like ouija boards could be real? i think it's pretty odd. i don't believe in ouija boards, but this is a little weird

[BurtonChancellor]

Well, personally, I think that if Cliff Burton's spirit is floating around somewhere and it has the ability to communicate with the living, it'd probably have better things to do than talk to a bunch of kids playing with a board game.

[Joe]

Well, personally, I think that if Cliff Burton's spirit is floating around somewhere and it has the ability to communicate with the living, it'd probably have better things to do than talk to a bunch of kids playing with a board game.

i know that makes sense, but isn't it a little odd?

oh yea btw, he also said ride the lightning was his favorite album to make out of MOP, RTL, and KEA

[CreepingDeath~]

ouija (sp?) is a mystery to me... I have never played it but heard stories about it and it doesn't make sence. You put your hand on a pointer and it "magically" goes to the letters? and they actually come out with words? How does it work?

[llauoykcuf]

I have to say Metallica is definitly my favorite band of all time. I have all their albums and I actually even like Load/Reload/St Anger (No where near Master of puppets, Ride the lightening of AJFA though) just had to say that

[Joe]

ouija (sp?) is a mystery to me... I have never played it but heard stories about it and it doesn't make sence. You put your hand on a pointer and it "magically" goes to the letters? and they actually come out with words? How does it work?

spells out words. read my post awhile ago, he spelled accident wrong (accdent) and kirk (kurk)

it was weird

[CreepingDeath~]

wierd... I have heard stories about it like people would ask the board "show me that you are actually a ghost" and then a lamp would fall over or something...

[Joe]

wierd... I have heard stories about it like people would ask the board "show me that you are actually a ghost" and then a lamp would fall over or something...

i'm never going to do that, i wouldn't sleep for months. i like knowing info about them. but i'm not even sure if i can believe it yet

[CreepingDeath~]

yeah I don't get it. I don't believe in ghosts at all, but how couldve all of that cliff burton things be correct?

It's so confusing.. :confused:

[JACKROXYOU]

what ghosts where?

[Thor]

/ hopes for some pos rep in return :D
I would like some rep as well, :lol:

[Joe]

what ghosts where?

read my post about ouija boards, it's really weird

[clown_phobia]

Metallica should make a greatest hits CD, it would be so awesome :thumb:

[CreepingDeath~]

Do you mean greatest hits or best of? cause greatest hits are the ones that made it on the top 15 (or a certain #, I don't know which) on the charts.. so a greatest hits would be like...

1. Enter Sandman
2. Nothing else matters

:rolleyes:

A best of would just be their best songs.

[clown_phobia]

Do you mean greatest hits or best of? cause greatest hits are the ones that made it on the top 15 (or a certain #, I don't know which) on the charts.. so a greatest hits would be like...

1. Enter Sandman
2. Nothing else matters

:rolleyes:

A best of would just be their best songs.

Yeah best of is what I mean.

[Joe]

well best of would have better songs than enter sandman

but enter sandman would be on there just cuz it was there greatest hit

[CreepingDeath~]

yeah... but there are just to many really good metallica songs...

Maybe the greatest hits can be a 4 disk set :rolleyes:

[JACKROXYOU]

no disposable heroes though :upset:

[clown_phobia]

I'd get metallica best of because I want their best songs without buying 8 albums or something.

[Chu]

I would like some rep as well, :lol:
Repped.

[JACKROXYOU]

well every **** album is good


every song almost

[CreepingDeath~]

I don't know if I'd get it cause I already have all of their albums, so it would be pointless... (unless there was some bonus stuff on it or something)

EDIT: 100th post! :smoke: :chug:

[Chu]

Best of CD would be like:
Kill 'em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and maybe St. Anger.

Wouldn't need to include anything else.

About the oiuji (sp?) board thing, that's ****en sick if it was true, however with my faith in Science I kinda doubt it. But it is Cliff Burton so I want to believe it.
Argh!!!!

Edit: Congrats CreepingDeath~

[CreepingDeath~]

Best of CD would be like:
Kill 'em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and maybe St. Anger.

Wouldn't need to include anything else.

Yeah.. basically their best of right now is Master Of Puppets...

[willis2441]

yeah... but there are just to many really good metallica songs...

Maybe the greatest hits can be a 4 disk set :rolleyes:
congrats on 100 posts! :chug:

[Joe]

Best of CD would be like:
Kill 'em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and maybe St. Anger.

Wouldn't need to include anything else.

About the oiuji (sp?) board thing, that's ****en sick if it was true, however with my faith in Science I kinda doubt it. But it is Cliff Burton so I want to believe it.
Argh!!!!

Edit: Congrats CreepingDeath~

i don't know about. i don't really believe it.

what'd creepingdeath do?

and the best of cd should be about $50 (more like 3 cd's, 2 live footage dvd's, big book of stuff, and more stuff)

[clown_phobia]

Best of CD would be like:
Kill 'em All, Ride The Lightning, Master of Puppets, and maybe St. Anger.

Wouldn't need to include anything else.

About the oiuji (sp?) board thing, that's ****en sick if it was true, however with my faith in Science I kinda doubt it. But it is Cliff Burton so I want to believe it.
Argh!!!!

Edit: Congrats CreepingDeath~

What about songs off And Justice for All?

:confused:

[clown_phobia]

i don't know about. i don't really believe it.

what'd creepingdeath do?

and the best of cd should be about $50 (more like 3 cd's, 2 live footage dvd's, big book of stuff, and more stuff)

reached his 100th post

[Chu]

Yeah.. basically their best of right now is Master Of Puppets...

Well, you'd have to include the band's highest point/s (First 3 albums) and then you include the last work the band did, because that's their personal fav as a band. And of course, they'd redo St. Anger, better drums, Kirk would put in his solos (I'm sure by now he's written like 100 solos for every song on St. Anger) and james would pick up drinking again, and maybe get back some of his voice at least, also maybe smooth out the rhythm a bit, I dunno if it should just drag on like that.

Well to tell you guys the truth, ...And Justice is the only Metallica album I wish I didn't buy, apart from two, maybe three songs from it (Which I could have downloaded) I don't think it was worth my money at all.
It just completely lacks anything that says Metallica to me.

[Joe]

Well, you'd have to include the band's highest point/s (First 3 albums) and then you include the last work the band did, because that's their personal fav as a band. And of course, they'd redo St. Anger, better drums, Kirk would put in his solos (I'm sure by now he's written like 100 solos for every song on St. Anger) and james would pick up drinking again, and maybe get back some of his voice at least, also maybe smooth out the rhythm a bit, I dunno if it should just drag on like that.

they should do something like linkin park did, St Anger Reanimation

no, they shouldn't.

they need a better album in a year and they also need a greatest hits with good songs, not just the radio hits

[Joe]

reached his 100th post

good job creepingdeath :thumb:

[clown_phobia]

I really like that harmonised solo in Master of Puppets.

[metal_milita]

about the ouiji board thing, if gocaps99 is telling the truth, i'm freaked out. ouiji boards are real because i've had my own experiences. We used to have one (we bought one in 95, didnt make one) and when we asked what cousins fiances name is (we didn't know), it gave us the correct name. At first we looked at this name and went "ok...." but 3 weeks later we got the invitation to the wedding, and it had the exact name + correct surname. Then in canada once (i moved in 99) we made one out of paper and coins at 3 in the night. We takled around for a while and he made fun of us, but then when we asked if we could leave, he woudn't let us (if you leave without permission or take your fingers off, the spirit is within your fingers forever or something. Basically, you get haunted or possessed). We stayed up all night and we kept asking till it got so mad. It was half swearing (shutup, **** you) the entire time. eventually it went...

but i don't think you can call in your own spirits like "cliff burton" etc. you get whoever you get. you're supposed to ask who the spirit was, about its life, what it did etc its really cool.

Now disregarding that little bit of my history (making me paranoid again), the best of metallica DVD should be a song from every album, liver performances from every tour and interviews from every album (duh). thats the biggest chance knowing the music industry and its love of creating everything about a person/s into a 4 dvd box set costing nothing less than $100...

[Chu]

[T]he best of metallica DVD should be a song from every album, liver performances from every tour and interviews from every album (duh). thats the biggest chance knowing the music industry and its love of creating everything about a person/s into a 4 dvd box set costing nothing less than $100...
This man's a salesman!
Serious, you deserve rep!

[JH LU KH RT]

the best of dvd should be there first 4 cds minus escape.

and like frantic, st anger, sweet amber, dirty window, am i evil, sandman, holier than thou, nem, wherever i may roam, fuel

it should then also come with a dvd of all these songs being performed live in there entirety, if they can find 1 of all the early ones.

and maybe like a 30 page booklet.

the Metallliboxset. Most likely 85-100$.

[Chu]

the best of dvd should be there first 4 cds minus escape.

and like frantic, st anger, sweet amber, dirty window, am i evil, sandman, holier than thou, nem, wherever i may roam, fuel

it should then also come with a dvd of all these songs being performed live in there entirety, if they can find 1 of all the early ones.

and maybe like a 30 page booklet.

the Metallliboxset. Most likely 85-100$.
Escape is awesome....
This guy's not a salesman.

[led_zep_luvr]

about the ouiji board thing, if gocaps99 is telling the truth, i'm freaked out. ouiji boards are real because i've had my own experiences. We used to have one (we bought one in 95, didnt make one) and when we asked what cousins fiances name is (we didn't know), it gave us the correct name. At first we looked at this name and went "ok...." but 3 weeks later we got the invitation to the wedding, and it had the exact name + correct surname. Then in canada once (i moved in 99) we made one out of paper and coins at 3 in the night. We takled around for a while and he made fun of us, but then when we asked if we could leave, he woudn't let us (if you leave without permission or take your fingers off, the spirit is within your fingers forever or something. Basically, you get haunted or possessed). We stayed up all night and we kept asking till it got so mad. It was half swearing (shutup, **** you) the entire time. eventually it went...

but i don't think you can call in your own spirits like "cliff burton" etc. you get whoever you get. you're supposed to ask who the spirit was, about its life, what it did etc its really cool.

Now disregarding that little bit of my history (making me paranoid again), the best of metallica DVD should be a song from every album, liver performances from every tour and interviews from every album (duh). thats the biggest chance knowing the music industry and its love of creating everything about a person/s into a 4 dvd box set costing nothing less than $100...


you are probably my favorite poster here on MX, not becuase you gave me rep but because you make good productive posts in complete senteces, and you are not a post whore

[Chu]

you are probably my favorite poster here on MX, not becuase you gave me rep but because you make good productive posts in complete senteces, and you are not a post whore
We agreed!

[led_zep_luvr]

my throat hurts

/spam

[Leper]

i could never get that frigin ouija board to work for me. My sister always got it to work but i never could. :upset:

[_xxBLACKENEDxx_]

Whats up bitches, i saw ur thread and i had to join. Metallica is by far my favorite band. KICK ***!!

[CreepingDeath~]

i could never get that frigin ouija board to work for me. My sister always got it to work but i never could. :upset:

I've never done it before... :upset:

From what people have posted before, it looks pretty freaky....

[CreepingDeath~]

Whats up bitches, i saw ur thread and i had to join. Metallica is by far my favorite band. KICK ***!!

Welcome to the forums :thumb:

[led_zep_luvr]

Whats up bitches, i saw ur thread and i had to join. Metallica is by far my favorite band. KICK ***!!


welcome :thumb:

[Hardest_Rocker]

Any word on a new album or recording for it? There site says nothing bout it and it's past early January 2005. And has anyone seen SKOM? I liked it but I guess I'm biast since I like Metallica.

[CreepingDeath~]

I think they're recording a new album, but I'm not sure.

[Leper]

Ya for whatever reason it seems to be quite the difficult task to get any kind of info on Metallica's current studio progressions.

[clown_phobia]

What did everyone think of the meeting beetween Lars and Dave Mustaine in the Some Kind of Monster film?

I think Dave needs to move on.

[PepsiMetal]

What did everyone think of the meeting beetween Lars and Dave Mustaine in the Some Kind of Monster film?

I think Dave needs to move on.

Yea, he definetely needs to move on. I watched the movie about a week ago. I mean it's his own mistake he got kicked out of metallica, so he shouldn't really be mad at them. They didn't want to risk going down so they kicked him out. Did anyone watch that part where lars and james were arguing. LMAO. Lars said like you're acting like a d*ck and james replied with something and lars just shut up. funny part.

[6stringslinger]

Do Unto others

As they've done to you

But what the hell is

This world coming to??

[Leper]

What did everyone think of the meeting beetween Lars and Dave Mustaine in the Some Kind of Monster film?

I think Dave needs to move on.

A shortage in funds has left me without a copy of SKOM for now. So what happens when they meet??

[6stringslinger]

Blow the Universe

Into to nothingness

Nuclear Warfare

Shall lay us to Rest!!!!!

[Leper]

Blow the Universe

Into to nothingness

Nuclear Warfare

Shall lay us to Rest!!!!!

Is there a point to these posts or are you just really bored? :p

[6stringslinger]

Soon to fill our lungs the hot winds of DEATH
The Gods are laughing, So take your Last Breath!!!

[I_love_cheesy_poofs]

Hey Guys, I'm gonna join this thread cause metallica is absolutely f##king awesome

[I_love_cheesy_poofs]

Death of mother earth,
never a rebirth, evolution's end,
never will it mend,
NEVER!!!

(God I love that song)

[6stringslinger]

FIRE!!

To Begin Whipping Dance of the Dead
Blackened is the End
To Begin Whipping Dance of the Dead
Color our world Blackened!!!

Blackened!!!!

BAD *** SONG

[Huber]

A shortage in funds has left me without a copy of SKOM for now. So what happens when they meet??

Dave lets Lars know that he's had to live for so long knowing what he did. Metallica basically let him rot, and dragged on and on. He spoke of people seeing him in the streets giving him some \m/ horns and yelling Metallica. It makes you think higher of him.

[Huber]

Thunder and lightning the gods take revenge
Senseless destruction
Victims of fury are cowardly now
Running for safety
Stabbing the harlot to pay for her sins
Leaving the virgin
Suicide running as if it were free
Ripping and tearing

My Kill Em' All came in the mail today ;)

[metal_milita]

you are probably my favorite poster here on MX, not becuase you gave me rep but because you make good productive posts in complete senteces, and you are not a post whore
heh flattered, but your pretty good poster yourself. :thumb: I just try to say things that are fair, imformative and based on something that contributes to my point or post.

I thought that Daves encounter with Lars in SKOM didn't leave either of them looking bad. Dave confessed to himself that it was his fault "I ****ed up... and I have to live forever knowing i'll be second." Either I'm missing a huge clip, but I was very impressed by the open-mindness of Dave and Lars. I've heard lots of things before watching that clip about how Dave acted very childish and such, but it seemed fine to me. Something I can relate to because in his shoes, Im sure I would have reacted like that.
One of the things that I thought was cool about SKOM was Jasons departure. It wasn't as simple as everyone thought. Poor guys was bullied by James for so long before he snapped. Jason is one of my favorite members of any band (I say "any" band because saying "last person out of metallica" means I see him as the worst one in the band and therefore as a person in general. But in comparison to every other band, I see all members of Metallica at top 6 (no rob yet, i don't know him) so it could be misleading to people and make them think I hate Jason)(that was a long backet). How many people here prefered Jason to Rob?

*Quietly raises hand. I thought Jason had the best performance out of all (save maybe James) and could pump anyone up. Sure he used picks and he wasn't the greatest bass shredder, but I loved his solo's in Live ****. And just his all around presence and rythmic playing in the background always made Metallica feel complete to me (misleading, from watching videos and performances Metallica felt complete to me. I only got into Metallica after Jason left). Rob doesn't seem to fit in all that well... He's too... different. There was Cliff who was just a god. Then there was Jason, the man who took on the responsibility and pressure of filling Cliff's shoes admist a choatic period in time for Metallica, headbanging all the way. And then theres Rob whos the only man I've seen in pony-tail (volunatarily) and walks on stage likes hes trying to fart or take a turd...

You?

[willis2441]

guilty as charged,
but **** it aint right

[hammet_ownz]

**** dude you know your shiite

i watched a craappy metallica doco called dark souls or something and it showed a bit on how jason was tormented in the early stages of his involvement and how he was treated like craap by the fans after cliff died. i think jason is a top bloke, down to earth and genuinely a funny guy, and can be serious and get his @ss into gear when he needed to

robs a good bassist, but cqant compare to either jason or cliff. i know im gunna ge -repped for this, but him in there with the ponytail and the shorts and craap makes it look like he;s just come out of some california skate band

craaps me off

ah well at least he can play the riffs in the background at concerts so tallica keep rockin out live

peace

[Kyle]

yeah the other metallica players used to tkae the piss out of jason on stage! i never liked jason but i consider that really unfair.
Jason may have completed the band but i dont think he brings aything extra to the band like rob and cliff did. Considering Bob Rock wrote most of the bass in st Anger i think in the next record we will see rob at his best.

[Chu]

Back on the Topic of Mustaine.

I agree Mustaine should just get over it.
But what Metallica did to him (As in wake him up, drive him to a bus stop, he's quite high at the time :p, give him a bus ticket and say **** off) is pretty tight.

On another note, I urge anyone who's a fan of Metallica to give Megadeth a listen :thumb:
Great band, Metallica are and always will be my favourite band, but Megadeth are great.

[Joe]

What did everyone think of the meeting beetween Lars and Dave Mustaine in the Some Kind of Monster film?

I think Dave needs to move on.

Ok heres what I think

I don't blame him at all. He was the guitarist of the soon-to-be greatest metal band in the world. He got kicked out. Now he will always be the number two.

Would Metallica still have been the greatest metal band ever with Dave? No one will ever know. What we all know is that Kirk replaced Dave in what is now the greatest metal band ever (not sayin IMO, it's more than just my opinion).

Considering Metallica has sold 90,000,000+ albums, and Megadeth has only sold 15,000,000+ albums, how do you think Dave feels walking through a world of Metallica fans making fun of him for being kicked out?

Yes it has been 20 years since he was kicked out, but he's always going to be number two.

[Burdcheese]

Ok heres what I think

I don't blame him at all. He was the guitarist of the soon-to-be greatest metal band in the world. He got kicked out. Now he will always be the number two.

Would Metallica still have been the greatest metal band ever with Dave? No one will ever know. What we all know is that Kirk replaced Dave in what is now the greatest metal band ever (not sayin IMO, it's more than just my opinion).

Considering Metallica has sold 90,000,000+ albums, and Megadeth has only sold 15,000,000+ albums, how do you think Dave feels walking through a world of Metallica fans making fun of him for being kicked out?

Yes it has been 20 years since he was kicked out, but he's always going to be number two.

I'd agree with that. In fact, given all that happened to him back then, I'd say it's admirable he kept going at all and moreover, produced work of as high a calibre.

I have great respect for Dave. Even more so since I saw Megadeth live - he struck me as a really amiable guy.

I suspect he's changed a great deal in 20 years.

[Joe]

I'd agree with that. In fact, given all that happened to him back then, I'd say it's admirable he kept going at all and moreover, produced work of as high a calibre.

I have great respect for Dave. Even more so since I saw Megadeth live - he struck me as a really amiable guy.

I suspect he's changed a great deal in 20 years.

Dave recently left Megadeth, right?

I'd like to see Dave go on tour with Metallica, but I don't know if the crowd will appreciate it..

[Chu]

I'd agree with that. In fact, given all that happened to him back then, I'd say it's admirable he kept going at all and moreover, produced work of as high a calibre.

I have great respect for Dave. Even more so since I saw Megadeth live - he struck me as a really amiable guy.

I suspect he's changed a great deal in 20 years.
I can't rep you, but yeah.. I'm jealous, seeing Megadeth live would be great (To be honest, I want to see Megadeth live more so then Metallica Live).

[munky_magik]

Dave recently left Megadeth, right?

I'd like to see Dave go on tour with Metallica, but I don't know if the crowd will appreciate it..
Megadeth are still together, but this is there last tour.
Even then it's more like Dave & friends than Megadeth.

[Chu]

Dave recently left Megadeth, right?

I'd like to see Dave go on tour with Metallica, but I don't know if the crowd will appreciate it..
Well, Megadeth more so broke up, but they finished their contract with (Insert their music label) so yeah. I believe Mustaine shoudl go on a solo project, would be pretty cool imo.

And yeah Dave Mustaine on tour with Metallica, playing Kill 'em All through Ride The Lightning (Chucking in his own improvised solos!) would ****en rock.
I would pay with my life to see that.

P.S. I can't rep you again, but I would! :p

Edit: To whoever neg repped me, yeah it was pointless, but going by now, half the posts in this thread woudl be pointless, so...

[Joe]

Well, Megadeth more so broke up, but they finished their contract with (Insert their music label) so yeah. I believe Mustaine shoudl go on a solo project, would be pretty cool imo.

And yeah Dave Mustaine on tour with Metallica, playing Kill 'em All through Ride The Lightning (Chucking in his own improvised solos!) would ****en rock.
I would pay with my life to see that.

P.S. I can't rep you again, but I would! :p

Dave's solo career would be awesome

And i would too, I would love that tour.

poo

[Joe]

Edit: To whoever neg repped me, yeah it was pointless, but going by now, half the posts in this thread woudl be pointless, so...

I'm pretty sure I rep+ you... didn't I?

[Britt420]

watching some kind of monster, and seeing dave was quite interesting.

a part of me couldn't help but feel a tad bit sorry for him.

[Joe]

watching some kind of monster, and seeing dave was quite interesting.

a part of me couldn't help but feel a tad bit sorry for him.

I feel sorry for him. Even thought I like Kirk more, I still feel sorry for Dave

[Chu]

I'm pretty sure I rep+ you... didn't I?
Yeah, but before you did, someone neg repped me, it's cool.

Edit: Well 2 people repped me, and between them I got 33 rep from it, you were the only one who signed the rep, so thanks :D
And to the mysterious repper, thanks man :)

[Britt420]

was it just me, or did he really seem hammered out of his skull???

it seemed like he was trying to make lars feel sorry for him, but lars didn't take the bait.

[Britt420]

and i'm a bit confuzzled by this whole rep thing.

[Chu]

was it just me, or did he really seem hammered out of his skull???

it seemed like he was trying to make lars feel sorry for him, but lars didn't take the bait.
I wanna see it :D
It's available in Australia from shops now, but I can't be screwed going out and buying it :P
But I really wanna see it!! Hahaha..

[Britt420]

its really good. showed a lot of the fighting between james and lars. i never thought it was that bad.

[Joe]

and i'm a bit confuzzled by this whole rep thing.

the middle box (check and a -) under someones name in their post. click that and type something and click one of the options, postitive rep or negative

it seemed like he was trying to make lars feel sorry for him, but lars didn't take the bait.

I thought Lars was feeling pretty bad, but that he made a good decision at first

[Britt420]

alright thanks. i just rep+ you

yeah well i do think lars had made a good decision. i just thought he didn't look like he cared how hurt dave was in the film. could be very mistaken though. there were a lot of bad vibes in it. but the film rocks!!!

[Thor]

alright thanks. i just rep+ you

yeah well i do think lars had made a good decision. i just thought he didn't look like he cared how hurt dave was in the film. could be very mistaken though. there were a lot of bad vibes in it. but the film rocks!!!
well thats good. should i watch it?

[Chu]

alright thanks. i just rep+ you

yeah well i do think lars had made a good decision. i just thought he didn't look like he cared how hurt dave was in the film. could be very mistaken though. there were a lot of bad vibes in it. but the film rocks!!!
Well you also know that the film didn't show the whole meeting between Lars and Dave, only the parts which kinda made Metallica looked better (Well, as I haven't seen it myself, my opinion doesn't go far, but this is what I have heard, and from alot of the 'non-Metallica' fans I know irl this is the same thing I expected happened, they all tell me how much of a ***** Mustaine was in the film, since they have seen it).

[Joe]

well thats good. should i watch it?


YES! WATCH IT!

it's a great documentary. My mom is so sick of Metallica and she even thought it was well done. you'll love it if your a metallica fan

[Britt420]

lots of stuff was cut out of the film actually. it is a must see even if you hate metallica. you can get a better understanding of the band as a whole.

[JH LU KH RT]

Yeah i personally liked the special features section better than the movie, it had a lot of cool stuff about the album and random cool sh1t.

[munky_magik]

It's not a very good documentary becasue it doesn't present the truth, but is edited to make the band look good.
I imagine the way things are, and they way they appear in the film are rather different.

[JACKROXYOU]

It's not a very good documentary becasue it doesn't present the truth, but is edited to make the band look good.
I imagine the way things are, and they way they appear in the film are rather different.

what truth is that?

[munky_magik]

what truth is that?
I don't know, but it won't be the way shown in the film

[FreeTheNeonLights]

Hey, A few months ago, i saw a metallica music video, i diddnt catch the name of the song. It had an orchestra playing with them. I reallyed liked it. Can someone tell me the song name?

[houses_of_holy]

Hey, A few months ago, i saw a metallica music video, i diddnt catch the name of the song. It had an orchestra playing with them. I reallyed liked it. Can someone tell me the song name?
It was probably 'no leaf clover'

[btoto]

I agree with Munky Magik. First of all if they (Jaymz&Lars) did have arguements about something, they must have talked about it alone, in privacy. But as the movie shows, the camera is everywhere. I haven't seen the whole movie but I saw many cut pieces from it, I think it is indeed shot to be sold well.

Well Lars, you're a marketing genious. You knew that the part with Dave will make even higher sells. Some 'deth fans of course wanted to watch it because of Dave, and I'm sure they did. More money??? Oh yes !
A 'tallica movie featuring a respected musician i.e Mustaine. More arguements??? Oh Yes !

I'm sure it was meant to be well sold. Maybe in some parts Jaymz was sincere...I'm sure he was because that man's eyes never lie. But the rest....NO!

It is indeed a very interesting film and I will buy the DVD for my birthday in early March. But to tell you the truth, I don't think this is what we wanted to see....this is what Mr.Ulrich wanted us to see.

:wave:

[vashts80]

Hey, A few months ago, i saw a metallica music video, i diddnt catch the name of the song. It had an orchestra playing with them. I reallyed liked it. Can someone tell me the song name?

You're gonna have to be more specific...they did a 20+ song set with a symphony. What were some of the lyrics, etc?

[FreeTheNeonLights]

I dont remember it was moths ago.


I remember a bit of the vocal line, and in a part the lights cut out and came on a again.


Ill check iif it was no leaf clover.

[btoto]

Lights went out during For Whom The Bell Tolls

[Burdcheese]

Anyone else think SKOM was every bit as funny as Spinal Tap? :p

[JACKROXYOU]

I agree with Munky Magik. First of all if they (Jaymz&Lars) did have arguements about something, they must have talked about it alone, in privacy. But as the movie shows, the camera is everywhere. I haven't seen the whole movie but I saw many cut pieces from it, I think it is indeed shot to be sold well.

Well Lars, you're a marketing genious. You knew that the part with Dave will make even higher sells. Some 'deth fans of course wanted to watch it because of Dave, and I'm sure they did. More money??? Oh yes !
A 'tallica movie featuring a respected musician i.e Mustaine. More arguements??? Oh Yes !

I'm sure it was meant to be well sold. Maybe in some parts Jaymz was sincere...I'm sure he was because that man's eyes never lie. But the rest....NO!

It is indeed a very interesting film and I will buy the DVD for my birthday in early March. But to tell you the truth, I don't think this is what we wanted to see....this is what Mr.Ulrich wanted us to see.

:wave:

wow you thought about this for long time didnt ya

[JH LU KH RT]

I agree with Munky Magik. First of all if they (Jaymz&Lars) did have arguements about something, they must have talked about it alone, in privacy. But as the movie shows, the camera is everywhere. I haven't seen the whole movie but I saw many cut pieces from it, I think it is indeed shot to be sold well.

Well Lars, you're a marketing genious. You knew that the part with Dave will make even higher sells. Some 'deth fans of course wanted to watch it because of Dave, and I'm sure they did. More money??? Oh yes !
A 'tallica movie featuring a respected musician i.e Mustaine. More arguements??? Oh Yes !

I'm sure it was meant to be well sold. Maybe in some parts Jaymz was sincere...I'm sure he was because that man's eyes never lie. But the rest....NO!

It is indeed a very interesting film and I will buy the DVD for my birthday in early March. But to tell you the truth, I don't think this is what we wanted to see....this is what Mr.Ulrich wanted us to see.

:wave:

I think we all wanted to see Mr.Ulrich, (is in his father).

HAHA what a funny looking man.

[JH LU KH RT]

Anyone else think SKOM was every bit as funny as Spinal Tap? :p

No not at all what are u thinking.

[FreeTheNeonLights]

Lights went out during For Whom The Bell Tolls


I think thats what it was called.
thanks

[Joe]

I don't know if I've asked yet, but on one of the DVD's of Live Sh*t there's one clip where Lars was talking on stage about James going to the hospital. Does anyone know what happened?

[houses_of_holy]

I don't know if I've asked yet, but on one of the DVD's of Live Sh*t there's one clip where Lars was talking on stage about James going to the hospital. Does anyone know what happened?
he was injured during a pyrotechnics accident(in fade to black) and he couldnt play his guitar for some time(cant remember how long). His guitar tech stood in for him.

[CreepingDeath~]

I think that happened in Montreal but I'm not sure.

[Hardest_Rocker]

Dave recently left Megadeth, right?

I'd like to see Dave go on tour with Metallica, but I don't know if the crowd will appreciate it..

I dont see why metallica cant have 3 guitarists like Iron Maiden or Lynyrd Skynyrd...

[tom delongg>jimi nigger]

MeTaLlIcA sUx

[munky_magik]

^^
This guy is obviously out to annoy people so do not rise to him, just ignore him please.

thank you, that will be all :)

[Pisungen]

Dave recently left Megadeth, right?

I met with Dave in Copenhagen a week ago... Together with Megadeth, and i asked him if he planed to leave... he said "Why would i leave this music machine?" Guess that's a no ;)

[Kyle]

I dont see why metallica cant have 3 guitarists like Iron Maiden or Lynyrd Skynyrd...
mustaine...hammett...and hetfield in one band... :)....... :D ..it wouldnt work though, lol. Firstly it would turn into a big old guitar mess G3 style and the heavy metal style would be lost. Secondly there would be so much competition between Hammett and Mustaine it wuld cause friction. And lastly and most importantly as SKOM demonstrates it is bad enough having 2 huge egos (lars and james) without adding Mustaine...it would be chaos!! nice idea tho :naughty:

[btoto]

I think thats what it was called.
thanks

Anytime :thumb:

[btoto]

I dont see why metallica cant have 3 guitarists like Iron Maiden or Lynyrd Skynyrd...


I can tell you what will happen if they tour with Dave:
------------------------

The first song of the show starts !

James: By the last breath of fourth wind's blow....
Dave(kicks him in the a$$): You fvcker ! It was my song ! I fvcking wrote it ! You stole it from me ! *steps up to microphone* : Imagine you were at my station and you brought your motor......*suddenly feels James' explorer on his forehead*

Kirk runs to stop the the fight:
Kirk: Guys, stop it please, we can solve it peacefully
Dave: Shut up Kirk !
James: Yeah, shut up Kirk !
Kirk: Robert, please help me !!!!!
*Robert headbangs and plays with such a passion that doesn't even know what's happening*
Lars: Hey, why I hear no guitar???
Dave: Shut up d!ck !
James: Yeah, shut up d!ck !
Kirk: hey Lars, help me !!!
Lars: uhhmmm, I just remembered, I had to call my girlfriend an hour ago
Dave: come here you Mr.Forehead !

Bob c0ck runs from backstage.
Bob: hey guys stop it, I'M LOOSING MY MONEY :upset:

[Kyle]

:lol: i love the way you have captured Kirks annoying "stop the fight" attitude.

[led_zep_luvr]

I can tell you what will happen if they tour with Dave:
------------------------

The first song of the show starts !

James: By the last breath of fourth wind's blow....
Dave(kicks him in the a$$): You fvcker ! It was my song ! I fvcking wrote it ! You stole it from me ! *steps up to microphone* : Imagine you were at my station and you brought your motor......*suddenly feels James' explorer on his forehead*

Kirk runs to stop the the fight:
Kirk: Guys, stop it please, we can solve it peacefully
Dave: Shut up Kirk !
James: Yeah, shut up Kirk !
Kirk: Robert, please help me !!!!!
*Robert headbangs and plays with such a passion that doesn't even know what's happening*
Lars: Hey, why I hear no guitar???
Dave: Shut up d!ck !
James: Yeah, shut up d!ck !
Kirk: hey Lars, help me !!!
Lars: uhhmmm, I just remembered, I had to call my girlfriend an hour ago
Dave: come here you Mr.Forehead !

Bob c0ck runs from backstage.
Bob: hey guys stop it, I'M LOOSING MY MONEY :upset:

LMFAO

rep+++

[JACKROXYOU]

kirk kinda comes off as a wuss... anyone else agree?

not like there is anything wrong with that

[btoto]

What does "wuss" mean???

*cough* not a native english speaker *cough*

[JH LU KH RT]

What does "wuss" mean???

*cough* not a native english speaker *cough*

It means like not tough, a little b1tch, "pansy"

[Freezing Moon]

kirk kinda comes off as a wuss... anyone else agree?

not like there is anything wrong with that

I agree.

[Chu]

I met with Dave in Copenhagen a week ago... Together with Megadeth, and i asked him if he planed to leave... he said "Why would i leave this music machine?" Guess that's a no ;)
That's awesome!
I'm totally envious of you :D
Would have been a great moment.

[led_zep_luvr]

kirk kinda comes off as a wuss... anyone else agree?

not like there is anything wrong with that

he's not a wuss, but he knows lars, james, or rob can kick his ***. i think even if he was stronger he wouldn't like fighting. it's just that way he was brought up i guess

[btoto]

It means like not tough, a little b1tch, "pansy"

OK, I got it....like the guy with micro-sized balls.

Thanks a lot

*jots the new word down into self-made pocket dictionary*

[JACKROXYOU]

hes a surfer man

did you guys know that james broke his wrist abunch skateboarding around the master of puppets album

[Last Ditch Effort]

hes a surfer man

did you guys know that james broke his wrist abunch skateboarding around the master of puppets album
I didn't even know he skateboarded.
Thought that was more of GnR's thing :p

[btoto]

Yes, I even have a photo from MOP tour where James is just singing and rhythm guitarist I guess is the guy who went to Metal Church.

All of them (5 men) are on the photo during the performance. Except lars is as usualy behind his drumset

[led_zep_luvr]

Yes, I even have a photo from MOP tour where James is just singing and rhythm guitarist I guess is the guy who went to Metal Church.

All of them (5 men) are on the photo during the performance. Except lars is as usualy behind his drumset

pics please.........

[metal_milita]

There was a link that someone posted a while ago with interviews of Metallica and people about Metallica. Its awsome to read, but I forget what it was. James mentions in there how they started skating and such.

Anyone remember link?

[_xxBLACKENEDxx_]

yea i heard james just signed some kind of deal and he had to agree not to skateboard.

[alcoholocaust]

Does this have to do with when James broke his wrist skateboarding back in 1986?

[CreepingDeath~]

yea i heard james just signed some kind of deal and he had to agree not to skateboard.

Why?

[JACKROXYOU]

theres a timeline on thier website

go check it out

www.metallica.com

[_xxBLACKENEDxx_]

Ok, i just looked it up, whenever james signs a contract to go on tour there is a "no skateboarding clause."

[Huber]

Kirk just doesn't have the "I'm a badass" attitude, which I think is a good thing.

Edit: Sorry that was kinda late and off topic, but it lagged and all I saw was the post on Kirk.

[Fernandes Power]

he's not a wuss, but he knows lars, james, or rob can kick his ***. i think even if he was stronger he wouldn't like fighting. it's just that way he was brought up i guess
Kirks childhood:
Parented by an Irish man and Filipino woman, the father would regularly beat up Kirks mum... and therefore Kirk.

Kirk also had an abusive next door neighbour that raped him and his dog.

When Kirk took up guitar, he was offered the choice of giving up guitar and staying at home or sticking with it but leaving the house.

Guess what he chose? :thumb:

His on stage (and frequently off-stage) character seems a very timid, and rather camp one... this is true.
But hey, they have Hetfield and Ulrich to be the loud ones.

His demeanour and the fact that he doesnt like to be touched by people he doesnt know and trust very well probably came from his upbringing...

During Black album-ReLoad era, Kirk was quite a druggy.

He has been surfing* along with yoga and Lacto-Ovo Vegetarianism to help cleanse himself of all drugs and cravings... and as he said himself, (according to his girlfriend) "being a Lacto-Ovo makes my sperm taste better!"

:thumb: Nice Kirk...



*Rob is also an avid surfer and snowboarder and regularly surfs with Kirk... thats actually how Rob got to hear from Metallica, cuz Kirk knew him from surfing.



I am actually a fountain of knowledge, all hail me...

[Chu]

Sometimes when Kirk's on stage especially For Whom The Bell Tolls Woodstock '99 I reckon he's showing off :p
There's one part during the first 'solo' where he's walking down the front of the stage, and you just know he's struting. :p
Sorry, kinda worthless...

But to the guy above me, that was awesome know any history on the other guys? (Including Mustaine, hahaha :D).

Edit: I don't quite understand the raped his dog part though :/

[I_love_cheesy_poofs]

Lars is in my opinion the craziest guy in the band and probably the craziest drummer ever

[I_love_cheesy_poofs]

I reckon one of their best songs is the memory remains but all my friends think it's crap. I need some support...

[Huber]

Lars...craziest drummer ever? Crazy could be explained in a few ways so I guess I have nothing more to say to that.

The Memory Remains is alright. The vocals at the end killed it. Most people will disagree with you because it isn't the old Metallica, and as almost everyone agrees, old Metallica is the best Metallica.

[vashts80]

I just don't like Memory Remains because the song is generally crap.
I don't like much of ReLoad, though...Unforgiven II, Carpe Diem Baby, Low Man's Lyric and Fixxxer are the only songs I like off ReLoad.

[Avellin]

The one that says "MORE BEER" right? Man thats a beaut.


Probably the one off of the Seattle vid. The one that says EET FUK....I liked that one. I'd like to see how a double neck Explorer plays....

[Joe]

It's not a very good documentary becasue it doesn't present the truth, but is edited to make the band look good.
I imagine the way things are, and they way they appear in the film are rather different.

Have you even seen it? Your far from correct. It makes the band look terrible over the past 5 or 6 years and then shows the truth about how they came back together and put out an album the sold millions a copies.

THEN they went on two tours. so it's showing their hell, and their struggles and how they got out of it

[Joe]

I reckon one of their best songs is the memory remains but all my friends think it's crap. I need some support...

I think it's far from their best. It's good, just way far away from best

[vashts80]

I do agree that it shows the inner workings of the band, but in some scenes, it makes them look like gold. For example, the Mustaine scene (both cuts)..

[^Dream~Theater^]

Lars is in my opinion the craziest guy in the band and probably the craziest drummer ever
Craziest drummer ever? :rolleyes:

[Fernandes Power]

Probably the one off of the Seattle vid. The one that says EET FUK....I liked that one. I'd like to see how a double neck Explorer plays....
Theys the same, just different stickers. :p

More Metallica knowledge: Hetfield was wearing a double neck explorer and playing Fade to Black during that famous pyro incident... the guitars inlays were ducks and its torched now.
:lol:

Chu; Thanks :D . Youre right about Kirk, he shows off a fair bit, he and Rob sang a verse each during Seek and Destroy at a show in Pensacola recently (also the first time theyd played Call of Ktulu since '85, excluding S&M).


And the film is most certainly not edited to make them look good... what about that scene with Lars selling his paintings?? His management told him not to put that in cuz it makes him look all greedy and stuff and he said they had to put it in there or it was denying the fans the true Lars.

[Fernandes Power]

Craziest drummer ever? :rolleyes:
Crazy doesnt necessarily equal good... he is a pretty crazy drummer, or at least he used to be.

Youd best not say Mike Portnoys better... :lol:

[Joe]

I dont see why metallica cant have 3 guitarists like Iron Maiden or Lynyrd Skynyrd...

it wouldn't be as cool. you don't need three guitarists.

[Fernandes Power]

it wouldn't be as cool. you don't need three guitarists.
True. Most of Maidens best stuff was written on 2 guitars...

[^Dream~Theater^]

Crazy doesnt necessarily equal good... he is a pretty crazy drummer, or at least he used to be.

Youd best not say Mike Portnoys better... :lol:
I was going to say Bonzo but Portnoy blows Lars out of the water anyday as well and your in denial if you can't see that.

[metal_milita]

Kirks childhood:
Parented by an Irish man and Filipino woman, the father would regularly beat up Kirks mum... and therefore Kirk.

Kirk also had an abusive next door neighbour that raped him and his dog.

When Kirk took up guitar, he was offered the choice of giving up guitar and staying at home or sticking with it but leaving the house.

Guess what he chose? :thumb:

His on stage (and frequently off-stage) character seems a very timid, and rather camp one... this is true.
But hey, they have Hetfield and Ulrich to be the loud ones.

His demeanour and the fact that he doesnt like to be touched by people he doesnt know and trust very well probably came from his upbringing...

During Black album-ReLoad era, Kirk was quite a druggy.

He has been surfing* along with yoga and Lacto-Ovo Vegetarianism to help cleanse himself of all drugs and cravings... and as he said himself, (according to his girlfriend) "being a Lacto-Ovo makes my sperm taste better!"

:thumb: Nice Kirk...



*Rob is also an avid surfer and snowboarder and regularly surfs with Kirk... thats actually how Rob got to hear from Metallica, cuz Kirk knew him from surfing.



I am actually a fountain of knowledge, all hail me...
I'd say that was a crazy bit of knowledge from you, but your too busy saying it youself :lol:
But I love how Kirk performs, no one can copy him. Anyone can get up and do a James (Lower mike, bend knee's and neck when you sing, and constantly tilt your head while doing a greedy and evil smile) , Jason (Run around the stage and headbang like a crazy mother****er), Rob (Just take a **** on stage and headbang side to side istead of up and down) or Lars (Moon the crowd constantly, keep hitting cymbals etc). But KIRK, its just amazing how much of Kirk he puts into his performance and playing. They way he taps his foot during slow parts, sticks out his middle finger, constantly lean back and forward with his back, run around stage really fast (seriously, in live footage, one camera angle will have Kirk by Lars, but the next second on a different camera, hes headbanging away by James). And his face when he plays his solos.... So much of Kirks emotions go into his solo's and its a beaut to see them live while hes performing. And then there are times when Kirk is just funny (Solo with his *** in Live **** San Diego) and when he just head bangs. And he has his own way of headbanging also. His neck doesn't move, his whole body does. And he doesn't use his hair in headbanging like Jason or James. The good part of that was once he lost his hair, he didn't stop headbanging like James. And Kirk plays in such a way thats like hes challenging his fans as he looks around during songs. That guy is great. I could go on forever. In fact, if i wasn't so busy, i would.

(you'll notice I left Cliff out becaue thats a topic on its own)

[Chu]

I'd say that was a crazy bit of knowledge from you, but your too busy saying it youself :lol:
But I love how Kirk performs, no one can copy him. Anyone can get up and do a James (Lower mike, bend knee's and neck when you sing, and constantly tilt your head while doing a greedy and evil smile) , Jason (Run around the stage and headbang like a crazy mother****er), Rob (Just take a **** on stage and headbang side to side istead of up and down) or Lars. But KIRK, its just amazing how much of Kirk he puts into his performance and playing. They way he taps his foot during slow parts, sticks out his middle finger, constantly lean back and forward with his back, run around stage really fast (seriously, in live footage, one **** will have Kirk by Lars, but the next second, hes headbanging away by James). And his face when he plays his solos.... So much of Kirks emotions go into his solo's and its a beaut to see them live while hes performing. And then there are times when Kirk is just funny (Solo with his *** in Live **** Sand Diego) and when he just head bangs. And he has his own way of headbanging also. His neck doesn't move, his whole body does. And he doesn't use his hair in headbanging like Jason or James. The good part of that was once he lost his hair, he didn't stop headbanging like James. And Kirk plays in such a way thats like hes challenging his fans as he looks around during songs. That guy is great. I could go on forever. In fact, if i wasn't so busy, i would.

(you'll notice I left Cliff out becaue thats a topic on its own)


No one can beat Cliff headbanging, well no one from Metallica at least :P
Nah man! Neither of them can beat their original selves headbanging, even Lars looked 'cool' when he had long hair!!! :P

[metal_milita]

Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :(

[willis2441]

Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :(
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[JACKROXYOU]

totally man i saw that too

[Chu]

Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :(
Hell yes! The guy was just a genius all around.

[Joe]

Agreed. But Cliff... o man, his headbanging was so random and so beautiful it makes me practically pop a boner (exageration, but you know what i mean). He uses his face and hands to imitate the song. Its just... words can't describe it, so I won't bother. Just get a copy of Cliff 'Em All and you'll understand. It actually makes me mad at my parents for not reproducing me eariler so I could have gone to the concerts :(

He was amazing on stage. He had so much energy on stage

[Joe]

I agree

Rob- a gorilla, wild.
Jason- what a headbanger
Cliff- can't catagorize

[Joe]

I can't find Cliff Em All anywhere. Where can I get it?

[Freezing Moon]

I can't find Cliff Em All anywhere. Where can I get it?

I don't know about legally, but there is a torrent.

[Chu]

Buy it!
One of the few things Metallica I'd say buy don't download.

[BurtonChancellor]

I can't find Cliff Em All anywhere. Where can I get it?
If you're looking to buy it, pretty much the only place you're going to be able to get it from is online. That's where I got my copy from. Two places to look:

Barnes & Noble (http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=85364010629&userid=T28JKwyAjY&frm=0&itm=1)
Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305633177/qid=1108972400/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0536636-6702562?v=glance&s=dvd)

[munky_magik]

what? you can buy it from HMV.

[Joe]

If you're looking to buy it, pretty much the only place you're going to be able to get it from is online. That's where I got my copy from. Two places to look:

Barnes & Noble (http://video.barnesandnoble.com/search/product.asp?ean=85364010629&userid=T28JKwyAjY&frm=0&itm=1)
Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6305633177/qid=1108972400/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/102-0536636-6702562?v=glance&s=dvd)

Ah ok. I've been looking around in stores and stuff. I'll check out the internet.

(But I'm about to buy a new amp, I don't think i'll be buying Cliff Em All anytime soon)

[hellraiser123]

yeh hmv sell it, so do some other shops, online isnt the only place to get it

[Deth]

I got it from best buy. Yay best buy.

[Metallica Rules]

Cliff was the best bass man no one can ever replace it in my heart.

[WarlockMan4389]

you guys do know that most of metallicas best songs were actually written and thought up by dave mustaine of megadeth right. if you dont believe me just listen to The four Horsemen and then listen to Megadeth - Mecanix. dave mustaine originally wrote that but metallica stole it so mustaine had to rewrite the words and intro but most of it is note for note (megadeths is faster and much much better though)

[Chu]

you guys do know that most of metallicas best songs were actually written and thought up by dave mustaine of megadeth right. if you dont believe me just listen to The four Horsemen and then listen to Megadeth - Mecanix. dave mustaine originally wrote that but metallica stole it so mustaine had to rewrite the words and intro but most of it is note for note (megadeths is faster and much much better though)
Metallica didn't steal it.. Mustaine wrote it while he was IN Metallica...
But yeah Mustaine writes some good songs, the best Metallica songs? Nah...

[munky_magik]

Yes, everyone in this thread is aware that Dave had a hand in writing some of their earlier material.
That they are Metallica's best songs is your opinion, not others.
The songs weren't stolen, Dave gave them permission to use them which is why his name appears on the writing credits.
The two versions of the song show how Dave and James had different ideas as to how it should go.

[WarlockMan4389]

:lol: you really think hettfeild had anything to do with the writing of the four horsemen :lol: an example of hettfeilds writing is St. Anger. its pretty sad when your drummer is your main song writer, he doesn't write for a day and St. Anger is what comes out. and metallica sued dave mustaine for the writes to his songs and he finally just let them have the songs to avoid a court case. look up your facts metallica is a bunch of scumbags. :thumb:

[Chu]

Yes, everyone in this thread is aware that Dave had a hand in writing some of their earlier material.
That they are Metallica's best songs is your opinion, not others.
The songs weren't stolen, Dave gave them permission to use them which is why his name appears on the writing credits.
The two versions of the song show how Dave and James had different ideas as to how it should go.
can't get enough of this guy, pure genius.

[Chu]

:lol: you really think hettfeild had anything to do with the writing of the four horsemen :lol: an example of hettfeilds writing is St. Anger. its pretty sad when your drummer is your main song writer, he doesn't write for a day and St. Anger is what comes out. and metallica sued dave mustaine for the writes to his songs and he finally just let them have the songs to avoid a court case. look up your facts metallica is a bunch of scumbags. :thumb:
You're wrong in almost everything you just said, THAT's quite sad.

[munky_magik]

:lol: you really think hettfeild had anything to do with the writing of the four horsemen :lol: an example of hettfeilds writing is St. Anger. its pretty sad when your drummer is your main song writer, he doesn't write for a day and St. Anger is what comes out. and metallica sued dave mustaine for the writes to his songs and he finally just let them have the songs to avoid a court case. look up your facts metallica is a bunch of scumbags. :thumb:
Why yes, yes I do. Hence why his name appears on the writing credits, The Four Horsmen is slower and it has the whole breakdown section in the middle.
St Anger is one example of Hetfields writing, but he has many, many more.
Basing your opinion solely on one album makes you a moron.
I imagine that Dave wouldn't want to avoid a court case, he was hurt by them and would want to fight them and also he doesn't have any problems going to court(see Dave Ellefson).

Anyone else smell Megadeth fanboy? :rolleyes:

[Chu]

Why yes, yes I do. Hence why his name appears on the writing credits, The Four Horsmen is slower and it has the whole breakdown section in the middle.
St Anger is one example of Hetfields writing, but he has many, many more.
Basing your opinion solely on one album makes you a moron.
I imagine that Dave wouldn't want to avoid a court case, he was hurt by them and would want to fight them and also he doesn't have any problems going to court(see Dave Ellefson).

Anyone else smell Megadeth fanboy? :rolleyes:
Hey, we're not all THAT bad :P

Edit: Well he can't even be that much of a Megadeth fanboy, his post in the Megadeth thread was completely wrong.

[Freezing Moon]

Anyone else smell Megadeth fanboy? :rolleyes:

I do.

I would have to say I personally like Megadeth better, but I have to give credit where credit is due. Metallica got me into metal, and I respect them very highly for that. They wrote a lot of good stuff.

[Thor]

Cliff was the best bass man no one can ever replace it in my heart.
I'm sorry, but this is just not true. Cliff Burton is good, yes, but definetly not the best. You probably need to listen to more music before you go and say that he is the best, because he definetly isnt. Just because he made "Pulling Teeth", which is a kick *** bass solo, doesnt mean that all other bassists cannot compare to him. Listen to Victor Wooten, Ryknow, Les Claypool, and Flea. They can give Cliff a run for his money. :thumb:

[WarlockMan4389]

Hey, we're not all THAT bad :P

Edit: Well he can't even be that much of a Megadeth fanboy, his post in the Megadeth thread was completely wrong.

wow chu and munky magik you must be retarded, if you knew anything you would see that i am right with all i have said. just look at metallica live and look at megadeth live (live im right). look up the reason mustaines name is there (mustaine settled for money outside of court). next time you think of writing think and research plz. im going back to the guitar thread where there aren't any retards like you guys.

[munky_magik]

Hey, we're not all THAT bad :P

Edit: Well he can't even be that much of a Megadeth fanboy, his post in the Megadeth thread was completely wrong.
Who said fanboys need to know what they're talking about?

[Chu]

Who said fanboys need to know what they're talking about?
Very true :P

[munky_magik]

wow chu and munky magik you must be retarded, if you knew anything you would see that i am right with all i have said. just look at metallica live and look at megadeth live (live im right). look up the reason mustaines name is there (mustaine settled for money outside of court). next time you think of writing think and research plz. im going back to the guitar thread where there aren't any retards like you guys.
What has their live show got to do with anything?
And you're going to believe random sources from where?
Give me sources and I'll happily stand corrected.

[WarlockMan4389]

What has their live show got to do with anything?
And you're going to believe random sources from where?
Give me sources and I'll happily stand corrected.

i used to get my sources from the official megadeth thread but those assfaces metallica whined and said that he couldn't post on his website about what happenned with those songs so now i dont know where you can get the info try looking it up on google.

[munky_magik]

The official Megadeth thread? as in the one on this forum?

[WarlockMan4389]

i meant to say website sorry my bad

[munky_magik]

The content of the Megadeth website pretty much comes from Dave I think.
And he is one hell of a bull shitter.

[WarlockMan4389]

The content of the Megadeth website pretty much comes from Dave I think.
And he is one hell of a bull shitter.

really well say hi to dave for me b/c it seems you know him b/c your calling him a bull****ter. guess what ive met dave mustaine and i asked him about the metallica songs that sound the same and he used to have it written on the site but the retards of metallica whined and got their way just like the napster thing, everytime you dl a song that takes money away from lars ulrich getting a solid gold toilet and matchin shower. :lol: :thumb:

[Fernandes Power]

I was going to say Bonzo but Portnoy blows Lars out of the water anyday as well and your in denial if you can't see that.
Sorry its just that everyone says Portnoy... Hes so painfully over-rated.
Lars could play alot of Bonzo stuff (including Moby Dick), but I agree his writing is usually very simplistic.

[JH LU KH RT]

Sorry its just that everyone says Portnoy... Hes so painfully over-rated.
Lars could play alot of Bonzo stuff (including Moby Dick), but I agree his writing is usually very simplistic.

Yeah dream theater fan boys are extremely annoying cause there are millions of them on these forums.

OMG john petrucci is amazing yay!!!john myung i love u!!

[Leper]

OMG john petrucci is amazing yay!!!john myung i love u!!

..That was a little strange.. :lol:

[Fernandes Power]

..That was a little strange.. :lol:
I think he was impersonating DT fan-boys.

[Leper]

I think he was impersonating DT fan-boys.

aaaahhhhh, gotcha :thumb:

[vashts80]

:lol: you really think hettfeild had anything to do with the writing of the four horsemen :lol:
Yes, I do, otherwise his name wouldn't appear on the writing credits, would it?

an example of hettfeilds writing is St. Anger. its pretty sad when your drummer is your main song writer, he doesn't write for a day and St. Anger is what comes out.
One of many songs that Hetfield wrote. He wrote Enter Sandman, the song that brought Metallica to commercial sucess, he wrote One; he, Cliff, Kirk, and Lars wrote Fade to Black...he wrote The God That Failed, about his mother being a Christian Scientist and not believing in doctors and believing that God will heal you..

and metallica sued dave mustaine for the writes to his songs and he finally just let them have the songs to avoid a court case. look up your facts metallica is a bunch of scumbags. :thumb:
Umm, no, dick...Mustaine wrote the songs. Why would he want to avoid a court case?
In any case, they took the riffs Mustaine wrote, slowed them down, re-wrote the lyrics, added an interlude, and retitled it The Four Horsemen. Mustaine released his original as the Mechanix.

you guys do know that most of metallicas best songs were actually written and thought up by dave mustaine of megadeth right.
Wrong, right there. The Unforgiven and Fade to Black were NOT written by Dave Mustaine.

if you dont believe me just listen to The four Horsemen and then listen to Megadeth - Mecanix. dave mustaine originally wrote that but metallica stole it so mustaine had to rewrite the words and intro but most of it is note for note (megadeths is faster and much much better though)
Umm, no. Mustaine wrote that WHILE he was in the band. After they kicked him out, Hetfield and Ulrich re-wrote the lyrics, slowed it down, and added the interlude and solo that's in Four Horsemen. Mustaine, meanwhile, kept the original and released it on his debut album in 1985, "Killing is My Business...And Business Is Good!"

Hey, douche, get YOUR facts straight.

[Leper]

Wow thanks for clearing all that up lol, rep+

[metallicakikarse]

I think the unnamed feeling is like, the best song ive ever heard, its mint. anyone agree?

[CreepingDeath~]

people don`t seem to know much about metallica
And the unforgiven is terrible i feel

I like the unforgiven...

I think the unnamed feeling is like, the best song ive ever heard, its mint. anyone agree?

I like the unnamed feeling a lot, probably the best song off of St. Anger, but it's not the best song I've ever heard.

[Chu]

people don`t seem to know much about metallica
And the unforgiven is terrible i feel
Unforgiven isn't anything special... I agree...

[Leper]

I don't think the Unforgiven is their best song, but it's still a pretty **** good song.

[CreepingDeath~]

The black album is good, but I think it's pretty overrated, with enter sandman and nothing else matters being on it and all. Yeah, and the 1st 4 albums are pretty sweet.

[Chu]

On a side note: I might be the only one, but recently I've been listenning to alot of St. Anger, and it's pretty good, I dunno the song, but something about "Shoot me again I ain't dead yet!" :p

Edit: When I listen to an album, I don't look at the names of songs, I just put it on from the start and listen to the whole thing, eventually I will get the names...

[Rasta Rocker]

people don`t seem to know much about metallica
And the unforgiven is terrible i feel

people don't...a lot of people at my school think they're satanic....wtf mate?

[JH LU KH RT]

I don't think the Unforgiven is their best song, but it's still a pretty **** good song.

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[handicap$]

well you gotta love them and i am having a prolem laying master of puppets can someone help me write me back at paintballshawn3@aol.com spank you very much :thumb:

[RiceMonster]

Yeah dream theater fan boys are extremely annoying cause there are millions of them on these forums.

OMG john petrucci is amazing yay!!!john myung i love u!!
There is far more Metallica fanboys...

I like both bands, so don't get pissed at me for this.

[RiceMonster]

I guess Im a fanboy...
By fanboy I don't mean someone who likes the music of that band/artist. I mean someone who refuses to see the faults of the band, say anything even slighty negative about them, or see differing opinions.
For example:
Person: "Metallica rules, but I don't see Lars as much of a drummer.
Fanboy: "OMG!! Lars is the best drummer ever, I'd like you to show me someone better!!"

[Joe]

:lol: you really think hettfeild had anything to do with the writing of the four horsemen :lol: an example of hettfeilds writing is St. Anger. its pretty sad when your drummer is your main song writer, he doesn't write for a day and St. Anger is what comes out. and metallica sued dave mustaine for the writes to his songs and he finally just let them have the songs to avoid a court case. look up your facts metallica is a bunch of scumbags. :thumb:

ok you know what? I'm really tired. I see you were already shoved out and thank god you were. None of your facts are right, at all. I'm just doing this post to be another one in this thread that knows you are a complete dumbass :thumb:

rep -

[Joe]

Yeah dream theater fan boys are extremely annoying cause there are millions of them on these forums.

OMG john petrucci is amazing yay!!!john myung i love u!!

i hate to admit it, but Metallica has a ton of them too...

but the Tool ones just piss me off. Now if Tool was a good band, I would understand it. But i don't like them period.

[munky_magik]

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't a good band.

[Po0sH]

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't a good band.
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I too don't like Tool's music, but I know that they are very good musicians.

[RiceMonster]

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't a good band.
It's sad that so many people find that concept so hard to grasp.

[CreepingDeath~]

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I too don't like Tool's music, but I know that they are very good musicians.

Yeah that's the same for me for lots of "oldie" bands, (The rolling stones, for example), I don't enjoy their music that much, but I respect them for what they have done for music, and because they are talented musicians.

[munky_magik]

It's sad that so many people find that concept so hard to grasp.
Such is life :(

[JACKROXYOU]

It's sad that so many people find that concept so hard to grasp.

the fanboys wars have been going on for years and they will never end

[Rasta Rocker]

Exactly, I don't like the Beatles at all. Their music just doesn't suit my tastes. But I have a a great deal of respect for their musical inspirations and attainments.

[JACKROXYOU]

Exactly, I don't like the Beatles at all. Their music just doesn't suit my tastes. But I have a a great deal of respect for their musical inspirations and attainments.

yea but thats nothing like the blood that has been shed in the megadeth/metallica/slayer wars

[munky_magik]

yea but thats nothing like the blood that has been shed in the megadeth/metallica/slayer wars
That's because they're two seprate thigns.

[JACKROXYOU]

well right

[JH LU KH RT]

yea but thats nothing like the blood that has been shed in the megadeth/metallica/slayer wars

Wait, what does SLayer have anything to do with metallica and megadeths fued.

[JACKROXYOU]

megadeth vs slayer was happening at the same time

slayer vs metallica has never really happend

[Mister_Che]

Someone told me Lars (and Alex Van Halen) have used, and DO use electric drums now. Is this even remotely true? It doesn't sound right at all.

[Joe]

Someone told me Lars (and Alex Van Halen) have used, and DO use electric drums now. Is this even remotely true? It doesn't sound right at all.

I doubt it, unless it's changed since St Anger and it's changed sicne this past tour. He didn't use electric drums on either

[Mister_Che]

I doubt it, unless it's changed since St Anger and it's changed sicne this past tour. He didn't use electric drums on either

The drummer of my ex-band assured me he saw lars use an electric kit on the One video.

[Joe]

yea but thats nothing like the blood that has been shed in the megadeth/metallica/slayer wars

But that's kinda over now isn't it? Didn't Mustaine apologize for everything?