Metallica Inc.

[JACKROXYOU]

The guitar Jaymez uses with the choppers inc. logo on it had a great sound but my favourite would be the white E.S.P with EET FUK written on it, the Flying V with green flames from the Whiskey in the jar video is pretty cool also...

:thumb:

[MoX_KIll]

i just finished watching some kinda of monster and i gotta say after watching it I respect St.Anger and Dave Mustaine more. Good movie


Congrads on your stars JACKROXYOU :thumb:

[JACKROXYOU]

i just finished watching some kinda of monster and i gotta say after watching it I respect St.Anger and Dave Mustaine more. Good movie


Congrads on your stars JACKROXYOU :thumb:

hard work

[MoX_KIll]

Lets see if you guys Know metallica as much as you think you do.

Before The black album what song dident have a solo in it *Rep++ to whoever gets it

(*= I already rep++ some of you if i did i'll rep you later)

[JH LU KH RT]

No problem. :)

/me wanted postcount ++, and I wan't involved in the arguement.

What is everyone's favorite guitar that Kirk and/or James uses? (to give this a point)


James - White esp explorer with the EET FUK in the corner, original gibson white flying v used in the early 80's

Kirk - Black Jackson V, and the custon ESP like the red and yellow one with the wierd skull on it

[JH LU KH RT]

Lets see if you guys Know metallica as much as you think you do.

Before The black album what song dident have a solo in it *Rep++ to whoever gets it

(*= I already rep++ some of you if i did i'll rep you later)


for whom the bell tolls

[MoX_KIll]

yea thats right....i already rep++ you so ill write it down and give u some more once i spread some more

[willis2441]

Lets see if you guys Know metallica as much as you think you do.

Before The black album what song dident have a solo in it *Rep++ to whoever gets it

(*= I already rep++ some of you if i did i'll rep you later)
escape?i cant really think of which songs have solos(99% of metallica songs b4 load have a solo)and which dont.

[willis2441]

for whom the bell tolls
oh yea thats right,i never really bitched about that song not havin a solo cuz its so awesome.no rep 4 me *cries*

[JACKROXYOU]

to bad no solos

o well

[MoX_KIll]

Oh well u tried

[KillemAllforOne83]

escape?i cant really think of which songs have solos(99% of metallica songs b4 load have a solo)and which dont.

It's for whom the bell tolls

[JACKROXYOU]

Oh well u tried

all about trying

[Joe]

i just finished watching some kinda of monster and i gotta say after watching it I respect St.Anger and Dave Mustaine more. Good movie


Congrads on your stars JACKROXYOU :thumb:


Hey jack got stars??? congrats man

And I now have a ton of respect for Mustaine. He really is an amazing guitarist that couldn't control his addicitons. I feel bad for him. What would it feel like being the number 2 knowing you were the number one and kicked out?

[JACKROXYOU]

Hey jack got stars??? congrats man

And I now have a ton of respect for Mustaine. He really is an amazing guitarist that couldn't control his addicitons. I feel bad for him. What would it feel like being the number 2 knowing you were the number one and kicked out?

no thanks to you

mustaine= crackwhore

[Joe]

no thanks to you

mustaine= crackwhore

hey i've repped you before. every time was+


why mustaine=crackwhore. i like hammett better, but mustaine is still good

[MoX_KIll]

Oh Well if they dident kick him out we wouldent have Megadeth :cool:

[JACKROXYOU]

hey i've repped you before. every time was+


why mustaine=crackwhore. i like hammett better, but mustaine is still good

he likes a the drugz

[Joe]

Oh Well if they dident kick him out we wouldent have Megadeth :cool:

im glad there's megadeth, because then there wouldn't be kirk hammett

[Huber]

I really, REALLY hope Mustaine continues to act the way he did in that message he wrote after he did the Dimebag Headbanger's Ball. I hate knowing there's fueds between bands I like. Lars isn't helping with that either :/

[Freezing Moon]

I think Mustaine>Hammett, but not in Metallica. Hammett fits the style so much better.

[Joe]

I really, REALLY hope Mustaine continues to act the way he did in that message he wrote after he did the Dimebag Headbanger's Ball. I hate knowing there's fueds between bands I like. Lars isn't helping with that either :/

Did you see SKOM? They had like a four hour therapy session with Lars and Dave and they worked a lot of things out. I think the sessions like that led to the apology Dave made

[MoX_KIll]

im glad there's megadeth, because then there wouldn't be kirk hammett

kirk would have been in another band cause he was already in one at the time he enterd metallica

[Joe]

I think Mustaine>Hammett, but not in Metallica. Hammett fits the style so much better.

Well, they would have a different style with Mustaine. I think Mustaine made Kill 'Em All more of a thrash-metal cd and Ride the Lightning with Hammett was a more metal cd which I and apparently 90 million other people think

[Joe]

kirk would have been in another band cause he was already in one at the time he enterd metallica

True but Hammett and Hetfield are amazing. The duos they write are just unbelievable. They're not like crazy solos, but it's two completely different guitar parts that sound so perfect together. I even get non-Metallica fans to agree that they are technically amazing

[MoX_KIll]

Mustian did work on ride the lightning aswell

[Freezing Moon]

True but Hammett and Hetfield are amazing. The duos they write are just unbelievable. They're not like crazy solos, but it's two completely different guitar parts that sound so perfect together. I even get non-Metallica fans to agree that they are technically amazing

I think it's a good duo too. To your other post, like mox_kill said, Mustaine did a lot of work on RTL too.

[Joe]

Mustian did work on ride the lightning aswell

Yes, RTL and Call of Ktulu, both of the thrash metal songs on that album (there are more, but i dont think as much)

[Freezing Moon]

Yes, RTL and Call of Ktulu, both of the thrash metal songs on that album (there are more, but i dont think as much)

Fight Fire with Fire and Creeping Death are just as thrashy, IMO.

I forget what point I'm trying to prove. :)

[led_zep_luvr]

anybody seen kirks picture when he was little?

[Freezing Moon]

anybody seen kirks picture when he was little?

No. Link?

[MoX_KIll]

yea but have u seens lars ...haha! he looks like a 7 year old girl in the 50's

[Joe]

Fight Fire with Fire and Creeping Death are just as thrashy, IMO.

I forget what point I'm trying to prove. :)

I don't know either. Yes they're thrashy, but Kirk brought in his own taste and style of soloing which led to Fade to Black, MOP, etc

anybody seen kirks picture when he was little?
why do you ask?

[MoX_KIll]

ill get one

[MoX_KIll]

http://metallica.com/timeline.asp?page=gallery&n_categoryid=2729&year=1960

[Joe]

it's actually a cool timeline

[MoX_KIll]

yea ,it's alright gets kinda boring towards the end

they should add 2005 soon

[JH LU KH RT]

http://metallica.com/timeline.asp?page=gallery&n_categoryid=2729&year=1960

HAHAHA

The baby picture of rob looks exactly like he does today with short hair, its quite scary.

[Freezing Moon]

http://metallica.com/timeline.asp?page=gallery&n_categoryid=2729&year=1960

Ha, cool thanks. Good timeline thing.

[Joe]

that timeline has a lot of interesting pictures...

so new topic...

before the guys got married...how many groupies do you think they each had

[Freezing Moon]

that timeline has a lot of interesting pictures...

so new topic...

before the guys got married...how many groupies do you think they each had

I bet they had a few per show. :)

[Eitri Is Berserk]

Are all of the members of Metallica married?

[Joe]

I bet they had a few per show. :)

it'd be awesome having as many groupies as like the beatles did or some big band like metallica with crazy girls

[Huber]

Are all of the members of Metallica married?

I don't know about Rob, but the others are for sure.

[Joe]

Are all of the members of Metallica married?

the two originals have wife and kids. kirk has at least a wife, i dont know about kids. and i dont know about rob

[Huber]

Did you see SKOM? They had like a four hour therapy session with Lars and Dave and they worked a lot of things out. I think the sessions like that led to the apology Dave made

I thought that just pissed Mustaine off more? Didn't he try and get that out of the movie?

[Joe]

I thought that just pissed Mustaine off more? Didn't he try and get that out of the movie?

No, Dave agreed to have the cameras on while he was talking to Lars

[Huber]

Hm....maybe I should pick that up....

[willis2441]

hey chosenones, you have 666 posts

[willis2441]

I don't know about Rob, but the others are for sure.
rob is currently single cuz hes one ugly a$$ bass player(but hes good at bass so thats a plus).

[Freezing Moon]

hey chosenones, you have 666 posts

Yeah, I made the post in the Community Thread. I also used the word "hell" in it without even knowing what number post it was.

it'd be awesome having as many groupies as like the beatles did or some big band like metallica with crazy girls

That would rule so much. I'd love that.

What do you guys think Kirk's best, not most technical, solo is?

I'd have to say the Creeping Death solo. It fits so well, and is highly original.

[metal_milita]

^^ tut so harsh. Cheapshot at his looks, but 2 to 1 your uglier

[Huber]

Yeah, I made the post in the Community Thread. I also used the word "hell" in it without even knowing what number post it was.



That would rule so much. I'd love that.

What do you guys think Kirk's best, not most technical, solo is?

I'd have to say the Creeping Death solo. It fits so well, and is highly original.

I'm a real sucker for that solo at the begining of Trapped Under Ice. I don't know almost anything about guitar soloing so I don't have much a reason except I really like it. heh.

[willis2441]

Yeah, I made the post in the Community Thread. I also used the word "hell" in it without even knowing what number post it was.



That would rule so much. I'd love that.

What do you guys think Kirk's best, not most technical, solo is?

I'd have to say the Creeping Death solo. It fits so well, and is highly original.
i like the solo for one(the main solo. the one before hetfields solo)

[led_zep_luvr]

what was the first metallica song you learned on guitar or bass or drums? this question is for everyone

[ArcLite]

Enter Sandman was the first I believe, followed closely by many other challenging black album favorites.

[led_zep_luvr]

i like the solo for one(the main solo. the one before hetfields solo)
fight fire with fire is my favorite solo

[Six Foot Revolver]

what was the first metallica song you learned on guitar or bass or drums? this question is for everyone
For whom the bells toll on bass

[Freezing Moon]

what was the first metallica song you learned on guitar or bass or drums? this question is for everyone

Jump in the Fire. I still love the first riff in that song.

[Huber]

On drums:
...And Justice For All

Guitar:
Sad But True

[NIRVANAforLIFE98]

what was the first metallica song you learned on guitar or bass or drums? this question is for everyone
One

[Death Unlimited]

on bass- anesthesia

[NIRVANAforLIFE98]

Hey does anyone happen to live in Arizona and play drums, preferrably in the west Phoenix area?

[demon_LLAMA]

Yeah, I made the post in the Community Thread. I also used the word "hell" in it without even knowing what number post it was.



That would rule so much. I'd love that.

What do you guys think Kirk's best, not most technical, solo is?

I'd have to say the Creeping Death solo. It fits so well, and is highly original.

There aren't many very technical kirk solos, but the best metallica solos were the ones Dave mustaine wrote on kill 'em all

I'd take James' picking hand over hammet's anyday

[Huber]

Hey does anyone happen to live in Arizona and play drums, preferrably in the west Phoenix area?

That was so Metallica related.

[CreepingDeath~]

what was the first metallica song you learned on guitar or bass or drums? this question is for everyone

For Whom the Bell Tolls on drums (non live version)

[CreepingDeath~]

I don't know about Rob, but the others are for sure.

Didn't Lars get divorced though?

[vashts80]

Lars got divorced, but he has 2 kids (3? I can't remember)
Kirk is divorced with no kids AFAIK.
James is marries with 1 or 2 kids
I dunno about Rob
Jason was married as well but got divorced, I believe.

Edit: First Metallica song I learned on bass was Whiplash..I can play the entire thing except the solo, I just haven't practiced that as much as the other riffs. I'd like to do Bells, but I don't have a wah-wah (or distortion for that matter)..speaking of which, I've gotta get my dad to go through his garage; he might have some pedals that I could use. 30 year old ones, but still.

[Freezing Moon]

Lars got divorced, but he has 2 kids (3? I can't remember)
Kirk is divorced with no kids AFAIK.
James is marries with 1 or 2 kids
I dunno about Rob
Jason was married as well but got divorced, I believe.

Edit: First Metallica song I learned on bass was Whiplash..I can play the entire thing except the solo, I just haven't practiced that as much as the other riffs. I'd like to do Bells, but I don't have a wah-wah (or distortion for that matter)..speaking of which, I've gotta get my dad to go through his garage; he might have some pedals that I could use. 30 year old ones, but still.

Whiplash is pretty sweet. Even though it's not very hard at all, its still an awesome song.

I love finding cool things in the garage. It's always fun to try to find old CD's and stuff like that. Half of the Classic Rock I have comes from random boxes in my garage.

[hammet_ownz]

first song creeping death on bass. oh yeah.

die, by my hand, i creep across the land.

just those notes you cant stand still while playing

[Godmic]

First song I learned of Metallica's was Welcome Home (Sanitarium) on my craptacular electric guitar.

[Darkest Hour]

For Whom the Bell Tolls on drums (non live version)
Hey everbody im new but yeah i'v been playing guitar for a few years anyways thats the same song I first learnt by Metallica ^^

[crossface]

welcome!

the first metallica song i learned was nothing else matters

[DMUSIC]

St Anger is on of the worst songs I've ever heard. These guys have been writing the same song over and over for 15 years. If you like crap these are your guys.

[ArcLite]

What a beautiful contribution to the thread **** eater. Go cry somewhere else.

[shadow_stalker]

St Anger is on of the worst songs I've ever heard. These guys have been writing the same song over and over for 15 years. If you like crap these are your guys.

wow your rep is going down :thumb:

[Six Foot Revolver]

wow your rep is going down :thumb:
Hell yeah!

[Josh]

St Anger is on of the worst songs I've ever heard. These guys have been writing the same song over and over for 15 years. If you like crap these are your guys.
unfortunately i cant derep anyone right now as ive given out too much reputation. but im sure someone else will do it.
and by the way metallica actually released their first album 22 years ago.

[KILO5203]

for whom the bell tolls
didnt for whom the bell tolls have a solo at the very end? all hes really doing is jacking off the wammy bar, but isnt it still considered a solo?

[Disposable_Hero]

First metallica song i learnt on guitar was seek and destroy, took me a bit of time to get the solos though!!!

[i_love_my_epiphone]

First metallica song i learnt on guitar was seek and destroy, took me a bit of time to get the solos though!!!

good song, i was just playing it no more than 2 minutes ago

[fenderbender89]

St Anger is on of the worst songs I've ever heard. These guys have been writing the same song over and over for 15 years. If you like crap these are your guys.

Oh go cry me a river.
Get off the thread retard!!!!!

[Chu]

didnt for whom the bell tolls have a solo at the very end? all hes really doing is jacking off the wammy bar, but isnt it still considered a solo?
He does in some Live concerts...

[Joe]

Lars got divorced, but he has 2 kids (3? I can't remember)
Kirk is divorced with no kids AFAIK.
James is marries with 1 or 2 kids
I dunno about Rob
Jason was married as well but got divorced, I believe.

Edit: First Metallica song I learned on bass was Whiplash..I can play the entire thing except the solo, I just haven't practiced that as much as the other riffs. I'd like to do Bells, but I don't have a wah-wah (or distortion for that matter)..speaking of which, I've gotta get my dad to go through his garage; he might have some pedals that I could use. 30 year old ones, but still.

well i know he has one...i thought it was funny when miles ulrich played drums on SKOM.

The first whole metallica song i learned was Fade to Black. the first riff i knew was Enter Sandman

[Leper]

He does in some Live concerts...

I wish they had played For Whom the Bell Tolls when i saw them. Towards the end of the concert James was like "what song haven't you heard tonight that you've got to hear?" and i figured oh good, this has gotta be it..then he's like "ya i know what song you wanna hear....SO WHAT!" It got a cheer as you'd expect, but meanwhile i was just standing there thinking to myself "So What??? Are you kidding?" It was disappointing, but at least they made up for it somewhat by playing Dyers Eve :thumb:

[Leper]

First Metallica song i learned to play was Wherever I May Roam.

[KILO5203]

First one i learned all the way through was seek and destroy.

[KILO5203]

First one i learned all the way through was seek and destroy, minus the solos.

[Leper]

All you gotta do is click the edit button kilo.

[KILO5203]

All you gotta do is click the edit button kilo.
oh i see what you mean. i didnt know you could do that. thanks

[Joe]

oh i see what you mean. i didnt know you could do that. thanks

and when it says reason for editing, you dont really need to put anything in there, unless you want

ok back to metallica. new topic???

[KILO5203]

which album do yall think has the best solos? i would say AJFA

[Six Foot Revolver]

I got one. Which album of Metallica do you think SHOULD have got through to the top four albums thread?

[Joe]

I think RTL should have. In my opinion, it has the best song (fade to black) and the best songs overall

[Joe]

which album do yall think has the best solos? i would say AJFA
MOP. even tho FTB is my favorite solo, MOP, Sanitarium, Orion, Disposable Heros, TTTSNB and the rest of the songs have amazing solos

[Six Foot Revolver]

I reckon Kill 'em all should have gone through. My favourite album but not many people will agree with me there

[Huber]

I like Ride The Lightning and Master of Puppets for solos, I can't decide between the two

[Leper]

MOP. even tho FTB is my favorite solo, MOP, Sanitarium, Orion, Disposable Heros, TTTSNB and the rest of the songs have amazing solos

i dunno about TTTSNB. I love the song, but everytime i listen to the solo it sounds like Kirk tried his best to come up with a solo that fit the song, but then just said f*** it. :lol:

[Leper]

I reckon Kill 'em all should have gone through. My favourite album but not many people will agree with me there

Pretty much everyone in this thread will agree with you :thumb:

[Joe]

Pretty much everyone in this thread will agree with you :thumb:
most of the people would agree not AJFA, but i wouldn't say most people agree KEA. i don't i said RTL

[Six Foot Revolver]

Pretty much everyone in this thread will agree with you :thumb:
Yey! Other Kill 'em all fans!

[shawnson]

kill 'em all was the 4th metallica album i heard (before was black, mop, and rtl) and i still like it the best. most bands release great songs on their albums, then they slowly become not so great... metallica was great until black album, where there were only a few great songs, then re/load.... which was pretty bad, then finally what me and my friends refer to as **** anger.

[Joe]

I like Kill 'Em All too, it's just not there absolute best. That's why I didn't say that's the other one i wanted to go through

[AimlessDave]

I personally think Kill 'Em All is their worst album. Kirk is far from being at the top of his game (this was before he got lessons from...uh, Satriani? [I think]), plus James apparently is still learning how to sing. It's still a good album, but not my favorite.

[Huber]

If Metallica were to have an album win that thing, it should be Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning.

[Joe]

i put one out when i was only a 100 or 200 posts old...it got smashed and flamed

[MoX_KIll]

Master of Puppets IMO it's one of the best metal cd's ever

[Burdcheese]

I got one. Which album of Metallica do you think SHOULD have got through to the top four albums thread?

MOP definately - it is a classic metal album.

I want to know who exactly has been voting for AJFA above
a) all other Metallica albums
b) all other albums in R&M

I'm not even going to vote in that poll...

[FateisCold]

....and justice for all isn't there best, but I think that album deserves a lot more credit. I mean come on it had One and ajfa, great cd. Anyways, everyones right, metallicas best album was master of puppets.

[MoX_KIll]

I voted for ...And Justice for all when/if no other metallica cd was in that poll...im sick of seeing Pink Floyd and Tool all the time so i voted for It

[munky_magik]

I voted for ...And Justice for all when/if no other metallica cd was in that poll...im sick of seeing Pink Floyd and Tool all the time so i voted for It

You mean you're sick of seeing those bands as others are of seeing Metallica?

[MoX_KIll]

yea pretty much

[Joe]

You mean you're sick of seeing those bands as others are of seeing Metallica?

Oh man am i sick of tool. They win everything.

[LarsAgi007]

Oh man am i sick of tool. They win everything.



I voted Metallica myself, maybe some other competitors are great and maybe we are not all fond of the load + but i can still listen to seek and destroy and be amazed to this day... Metallica is a band with so much material i can never get bored! lol, thats my opinion, we are all different remember

[Burdcheese]

Oh man am i sick of tool. They win everything.

Ditto - Until I can get one of their albums and judge differently, I really can't see what the fuss is about.

APC seem much better - better tunes for a start.

[munky_magik]

Oh man am i sick of tool. They win everything.

What exactly have they won?

[Joe]

What exactly have they won?

they win a lot of polls. they have so many fanboys that they beat out a lot of good albums. (not that metallica doesn't have fanboys) but in the polling a little while ago for the best song didn't tool come in number two. NUMBER TWO?!?!?! how can it be possible that tool came in number two for the BEST song.

and they've beaten out so many good albums in these polls and it just sickens me that all those guys vote for is tool

[munky_magik]

they win a lot of polls. they have so many fanboys that they beat out a lot of good albums. (not that metallica doesn't have fanboys) but in the polling a little while ago for the best song didn't tool come in number two. NUMBER TWO?!?!?! how can it be possible that tool came in number two for the BEST song.

and they've beaten out so many good albums in these polls and it just sickens me that all those guys vote for is tool

So you don't like Tool. Deal with it.

[LarsAgi007]

MOP definately - it is a classic metal album.

I want to know who exactly has been voting for AJFA above
a) all other Metallica albums
b) all other albums in R&M

I'm not even going to vote in that poll...


And Justice for all... I must say myself i personally do not think it is Metallica's best album musically, i would say as far as instruments go, some of the material on there is very complex and difficult (From a drummers eyes) i also think that it is the complex drum structures that accually destroy the power of this album, just because it is played fast does not mean to say that it is better, just because its hard to play, does not mean it is any better either....
All the same it is still a great album, although i would say Ride the lightning definatly comes above ajfa although i prefer jayme'z vocals on the justice album...
Thats my opinion, what do you guys think???

[willis2441]

i think ajfa is their best album.it has classic songs like one,harvester of sorrow(their best song),shortest straw,blackened,dyers eve,to live is to die.although i like cliff over jason and robert.most people dis on ajfa but its a great album.

[Joe]

i think ajfa is their best album.it has classic songs like one,harvester of sorrow(their best song),shortest straw,blackened,dyers eve,to live is to die.although i like cliff over jason and robert.most people dis on ajfa but its a great album.

yes i think it's a great album, i just don't think it's there best. they've produced better songs than the ones on ajfa. yes, i like most of the ones on ajfa, but i like the earlier songs better

[LarsAgi007]

i think ajfa is their best album.it has classic songs like one,harvester of sorrow(their best song),shortest straw,blackened,dyers eve,to live is to die.although i like cliff over jason and robert.most people dis on ajfa but its a great album.



I agree with the Cliff part there, i prefer him over jason and rob any day, and Harvester of sorrow would probably be my favourite song of the justice album also, with close competition from Blackened hehe...
On shortest straw, is that Larz doing backing vocals, or is it my ears... i have wondered that for years???

[Burdcheese]

AJFA used to be my favourite, but then the production really started to get on my nerves to the extent that it actually detracts from the quality of the songs themselves. I find most of the tracks quite boring really.

For example, AJFA (the song) really drags, yet its great live - though sadly they don't play it very often.

The only songs on AJFA I actually actively like are One (The definitive Metallica song?), TLITD and Dyers Eve.


I know a lot of people feel the same way which is why I can't understand how that of all Metallica's albums made it into the final.

[Joe]

AJFA used to be my favourite, but then the production really started to get on my nerves to the extent that it actually detracts from the quality of the songs themselves. I find most of the tracks quite boring really.

For example, AJFA (the song) really drags, yet its great live - though sadly they don't play it very often.

The only songs on AJFA I actually actively like are One (The definitive Metallica song?), TLITD and Dyers Eve.


I know a lot of people feel the same way which is why I can't understand how that of all Metallica's albums made it into the final.

i like the riffs in ajfa, but your right. the song is about 3 mins too long.

the sad thing is is that Enter Sandman is the definitive Metallica song because it's the only song half of the Metallica "fans" have ever heard.
But besides that, I go with One or Master of Puppets

[Mister_Che]

Definitive Metallica Song = Enter Sandman


Admit it, it's true, :upset:

[willis2441]

Definitive Metallica Song = Enter Sandman


Admit it, it's true, :upset:
no,good song but overplayed to the point that you want to kill the radio.id say their best song is harvester of sorrow or dyers eve

[LarsAgi007]

[QUOTE=gocaps99]i like the riffs in ajfa, but your right. the song is about 3 mins too long.

I couldn't agree with you more there, and those extra three minuites of the song sound like a totally different song, have you noticed that???
Its like they have got a totally different song, intergrated the AJFA lyrics and glued it to the end...!

[Joe]

no,good song but overplayed to the point that you want to kill the radio.id say their best song is harvester of sorrow or dyers eve
no but definitive song means when you ask people about a metallica song the answer you get will be enter sandman from most people

[willis2441]

no but definitive song means when you ask people about a metallica song the answer you get will be enter sandman from most people
oic, or st anger lol!

[i_love_my_epiphone]

nothing else matters is well known as a metallica definitive song

[willis2441]

sad but true too,basically anything on the black album is definitive for them.

[Joe]

nothing else matters is well known as a metallica definitive song

yea, pathetic isn't it? not that they're bad songs, it's just they're far from the best

[LarsAgi007]

nothing else matters is well known as a metallica definitive song


Yes true, i have used that song to suck so many people into the world of Metallica, if you know someone who dislikes metal, sofen them up with nothing else matters lol....
Then move onto sanitarium, and maybe call of ktulu??? intersting hmmmm

[LarsAgi007]

Speaking of definitive songs.... Ok what song of Metallica's did you first hear??? And what made you come about hearing it???

[Mister_Che]

To be honest, I love the acoustic part on To Live Is To Die more than most of Nothing Else Matters.

[Mister_Che]

Speaking of definitive songs.... Ok what song of Metallica's did you first hear??? And what made you come about hearing it???


Ride the Lightning. My uncle had a tape in his car. I was.... 8 maybe? Hmmm, I wonder where the hell he is.

[Joe]

Speaking of definitive songs.... Ok what song of Metallica's did you first hear??? And what made you come about hearing it???

ok so they first metallica song i heard was enter sandman, but i didn't know it was metallica at the time. i found out it was metallica when my friend asked me to do the wah part in the intro and so he showed me everything and i found out it was metallica. so then i started playing enter sandman in another class and this other dude started playing fade to black so i downloaded fade to black and then bought RTL and it all went uphill from there...


you?

[JACKROXYOU]

yea, pathetic isn't it? not that they're bad songs, it's just they're far from the best

if someone mentions nem in their favorite five metallica songs...

shoot them!!

[JACKROXYOU]

Speaking of definitive songs.... Ok what song of Metallica's did you first hear??? And what made you come about hearing it???

seek & destroy

hooked eversince

[shawnson]

my dad played the black album when i was around 5 years old. been hooked since.

[LarsAgi007]

ok so they first metallica song i heard was enter sandman, but i didn't know it was metallica at the time. i found out it was metallica when my friend asked me to do the wah part in the intro and so he showed me everything and i found out it was metallica. so then i started playing enter sandman in another class and this other dude started playing fade to black so i downloaded fade to black and then bought RTL and it all went uphill from there...


you?


I was about 8 years old and kept getting dragged to all these Metal concerts by my dad, i think i was a robbie williams fan then lmao k/d and most evenings my dad would put on some music, i liked one song inparticular and it was called dont tread on me by metallica obviously, i then went out and bought the black album, and one week later got blown away when i bought the ride the lightning album, this was in about november, i asked for the remaining metallica albums for x.mas in which i got :)

[willis2441]

the first metallica song i heard was one,in my step dads car,and i thought the double bass part was so cool,i was tellin all my friends about it.

[^Dream~Theater^]

My friend put on the RTL cd at my friends house one time and FFWF sold me.

[JACKROXYOU]

heh

awsome

[LarsAgi007]

I would probably not put nothing else matters in my top 5 or even top 10, but one song that i would put in my top 5 would be fade to black, it has its gentleness but it has triplets on snare and bass drum and heavy riffs that make it kick *** when it gets going. definatly a song with soul and emotion though... I believe it was written just after all Metallica's equipment was stolen from a lorry in boston!!! so that grey tama kit from the 'One' video has to be somewhere!!!!

[Mister_Che]

I would probably not put nothing else matters in my top 5 or even top 10, but one song that i would put in my top 5 would be fade to black, it has its gentleness but it has triplets on snare and bass drum and heavy riffs that make it kick *** when it gets going. definatly a song with soul and emotion though... I believe it was written just after all Metallica's equipment was stolen from a lorry in boston!!! so that grey tama kit from the 'One' video has to be somewhere!!!!

You realize Fade To Black came before One was written right? So the drumkit in the video was not the one that was stolen.

[JACKROXYOU]

what?

[Joe]

You realize Fade To Black came before One was written right? So the drumkit in the video was not the one that was stolen.

yea fade to black was on RTL which came years before AJFA and Fade to Black was written about the stolen equipment

[LarsAgi007]

You realize Fade To Black came before One was written right? So the drumkit in the video was not the one that was stolen.



I like you, you look into messages deeply.... The kit that was stolen was the same model as in the One video though not that exact one though, new equipment was ordered of course and everything got back on track, Lars chose to use the same kit yet again as he seems to like the double bass starclassic tama kits, hence the grey one in 'one' the silver glittery one in S&M and the Green glittery one in St Anger!!!

[Mister_Che]

I wish I had a green glittery guitar. Well, at lest green. Like that guy from Atreyu.

[LarsAgi007]

I like you, you look into messages deeply.... The kit that was stolen was the same model as in the One video though not that exact one though, new equipment was ordered of course and everything got back on track, Lars chose to use the same kit yet again as he seems to like the double bass starclassic tama kits, hence the grey one in 'one' the silver glittery one in S&M and the Green glittery one in St Anger!!!



I think there is a white tama starclassic kit used in live binge and purge also....

[Huber]

I wish I had a green glittery guitar. Well, at lest green. Like that guy from Atreyu.

I just wished I had a guitar that was decent. I'm currently saving for a better one. Hopefully I'll get one soon.

[LarsAgi007]

I just wished I had a guitar that was decent. I'm currently saving for a better one. Hopefully I'll get one soon.

Hey good luck with the new guitar... It seems so hard to get a decent guitar these days.. I am a drummer, but i also have a Gibson epiphone, its a pretty good guitar for me, not sure if its good in general though, i just like learning riffs on it so i can record them and play drums to them....

[Huber]

Reason for not having a good guitar: 99% of my money goes to drumming.

[MoX_KIll]

I gave up on music...i dont have the talent,the patience or the time

[Mister_Che]

I've gotten a few Metallica songs down nicely on my B.C. Rich Platinum Mockingbird.

[Fernandes Power]

I think there is a white tama starclassic kit used in live binge and purge also....
Wow...you have your info a bit mixed up. :rolleyes:

Lars' first Starclassic was the Silver Sparkle one...

And of course he uses the Blue Sparkle Starclassic one in conjunction with the Silver for recording.

His kit in Live **** Binge & Purge is a custom Tama Artstar II with Granstar II lugs...

:thumb:

AND, the kit Lars used during RTL was a chrome Imperialstar (which wasnt stolen I dont believe)...

He upgraded to the white custom Artstar II around MoP time and hung onto it up until the end of the Black Album tours (where he had acquired another one, possibly two)...

And the loss of equipment when recording RTL was not so easily fixable for James at least, who had lost a very rare and beloved Marshall amp.
He spent ages searching as much of Europe as he could for one and had to settle on a similar model that he found in Copenhagen (or somewhere of the sort).

:thumb:

[Fernandes Power]

yea fade to black was on RTL which came years before AJFA and Fade to Black was written about the stolen equipment
Actually... Lars and James (as said themselves) were obsessing about death and suicide back then and thought it would make a good song, and the equipment being stolen just kinda... pushed it along I guess.

[LarsAgi007]

Wow...you have your info a bit mixed up. :rolleyes:

Lars' first Starclassic was the Silver Sparkle one...

And of course he uses the Blue Sparkle Starclassic one in conjunction with the Silver for recording.

His kit in Live **** Binge & Purge is a custom Tama Artstar II with Granstar II lugs...

:thumb:

AND, the kit Lars used during RTL was a chrome Imperialstar (which wasnt stolen I dont believe)...

He upgraded to the white custom Artstar II around MoP time and hung onto it up until the end of the Black Album tours (where he had acquired another one, possibly two)...

And the loss of equipment when recording RTL was not so easily fixable for James at least, who had lost a very rare and beloved Marshall amp.
He spent ages searching as much of Europe as he could for one and had to settle on a similar model that he found in Copenhagen (or somewhere of the sort).

:thumb:


Well hey man, you know your stuff.... as i said.... I am led to believe lol...
Also i set no order in which lars had the drums, just what drums i have seen him use, and yes there is a blue kit also.... *Recording kit*
The main thing Lars did change over the years, not counting the colours... was the amount of rack toms he uses.... 4 rack toms then and not its normally two placed between the two bass drums, however now he uses two floor toms also...

[Fernandes Power]

Well hey man, you know your stuff.... as i said.... I am led to believe lol...
Also i set no order in which lars had the drums, just what drums i have seen him use, and yes there is a blue kit also.... *Recording kit*
The main thing Lars did change over the years, not counting the colours... was the amount of rack toms he uses.... 4 rack toms then and not its normally two placed between the two bass drums, however now he uses two floor toms also...
Heh, fair enough...

Lars did have 4 rack toms from the start and 2 floor toms, he took off the other 2 toms towards the end of the Black Album tours.

[led_zep_luvr]

i don't know anything about drums

[Fernandes Power]

i don't know anything about drums
Im a bassist. :confused: :lol:

[led_zep_luvr]

Im a bassist. :confused: :lol:


guitarist :wave:

[CreepingDeath~]

Actually... Lars and James (as said themselves) were obsessing about death and suicide back then and thought it would make a good song, and the equipment being stolen just kinda... pushed it along I guess.

I thought Fade To Black was about the urge to not continue playing music after they had their equipment stolen....

[Fernandes Power]

I think that ties in with what I was saying...

[CreepingDeath~]

I think that ties in with what I was saying...
Okay

[willis2441]

lars had a bigas$ set on the black album and he didnt even use half of it.

[Joe]

lars had a bigas$ set on the black album and he didnt even use half of it.

well when you have that much money you can do those kinda things, like buy things you never use.

did you purposly spell believe wrong on yor title?

[willis2441]

well when you have that much money you can do those kinda things, like buy things you never use.

did you purposly spell believe wrong on yor title?
yup

[Fernandes Power]

lars had a bigas$ set on the black album and he didnt even use half of it.
Are you serious...??

Have you even watched Live Sh*t??

[Freezing Moon]

Are you serious...??

Have you even watched Live Sh*t??

Ah, I really want to see that. I can't find it anywhere in my town though.

Do you guys think Metallica would be better or worse if Lars were an excellent drummer, and added all kinds of complicated fills and rhythm?

[Andrue]

Favorite song stuff....

I never really liked heavy metal music until one day I caught the video for Enter sandman on mtv (i think). I am seriously scared of falling and that video just locked the song in my head for a bit.

After hearing it a bit more I decided to listen to other albums. I didn't like any of the other albums up to that point but like Load & Reload. Hero of the day is another of my favorites.

I hadn't thought about playing any metallica until about 2 weeks ago I relistened to reload and decided Slither was something I liked and could handle.

I don't really like any other metal bands other than Metallica, they seem to be getting better.

[Fernandes Power]

Favorite song stuff....

I never really liked heavy metal music until one day I caught the video for Enter sandman on mtv (i think). I am seriously scared of falling and that video just locked the song in my head for a bit.

After hearing it a bit more I decided to listen to other albums. I didn't like any of the other albums up to that point but like Load & Reload. Hero of the day is another of my favorites.

I hadn't thought about playing any metallica until about 2 weeks ago I relistened to reload and decided Slither was something I liked and could handle.

I don't really like any other metal bands other than Metallica, they seem to be getting better.
Slither was voted the least liked Metallica song. :lol:

[alcoholocaust]

Favorite song stuff....

I never really liked heavy metal music until one day I caught the video for Enter sandman on mtv (i think). I am seriously scared of falling and that video just locked the song in my head for a bit.

After hearing it a bit more I decided to listen to other albums. I didn't like any of the other albums up to that point but like Load & Reload. Hero of the day is another of my favorites.

I hadn't thought about playing any metallica until about 2 weeks ago I relistened to reload and decided Slither was something I liked and could handle.

I don't really like any other metal bands other than Metallica, they seem to be getting better.

You're dyslexic, right?

[JACKROXYOU]

Favorite song stuff....

I never really liked heavy metal music until one day I caught the video for Enter sandman on mtv (i think). I am seriously scared of falling and that video just locked the song in my head for a bit.

After hearing it a bit more I decided to listen to other albums. I didn't like any of the other albums up to that point but like Load & Reload. Hero of the day is another of my favorites.

I hadn't thought about playing any metallica until about 2 weeks ago I relistened to reload and decided Slither was something I liked and could handle.

I don't really like any other metal bands other than Metallica, they seem to be getting better.

stuck in load years

poor poor man

[metal_milita]

Gotta question lots of you will find funny.

Did Metallica ever make an unreleased song called "Pain for Pleasure" that was taken by Sum41??

I read on a site that it was credited to them, but PFP has been a Sum41 song (to public)

Dumbass question about what you may find a dumbass band, but all the same, I just want to know. PFP was what I thought Sum41's greatest metal achievement, so it seems big to me.

[Fernandes Power]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Andrue]

Stuck in "load years"... well, that's actually an upgrade from normally being stuck in the 70's which is really where I usually am.

[Huber]

Favorite song stuff....

I never really liked heavy metal music until one day I caught the video for Enter sandman on mtv (i think). I am seriously scared of falling and that video just locked the song in my head for a bit.

After hearing it a bit more I decided to listen to other albums. I didn't like any of the other albums up to that point but like Load & Reload. Hero of the day is another of my favorites.

I hadn't thought about playing any metallica until about 2 weeks ago I relistened to reload and decided Slither was something I liked and could handle.

I don't really like any other metal bands other than Metallica, they seem to be getting better.

My first response to you was going to be:
"Saying Metallica is getting better is closed minded because that is your opinion. Metallica was better in the 80s."

Then I realized how hypocritical that was.

Just realize that saying "they're getting better" is only by your standards. They are in fact "Metallica" not "Alternativica". I like those albums myself, but they don't really do Metallica they're justice.

[JH LU KH RT]

Favorite song stuff....

I never really liked heavy metal music until one day I caught the video for Enter sandman on mtv (i think). I am seriously scared of falling and that video just locked the song in my head for a bit.

After hearing it a bit more I decided to listen to other albums. I didn't like any of the other albums up to that point but like Load & Reload. Hero of the day is another of my favorites.

I hadn't thought about playing any metallica until about 2 weeks ago I relistened to reload and decided Slither was something I liked and could handle.

I don't really like any other metal bands other than Metallica, they seem to be getting better.

I command u to go buy there first 4 cds. Listen to them front to back dont skip the song if you dont like the intro. I guarentee u will come back and be like "slither is probly one of the worst of metallicas songs"

Ive met people that like there new stuff but never before have i seen anyone that doesnt like there old stuff if they like them at all.

u have to understand that OLD METALLICA = BEST MUSIC ON PLANET EARTH!

[ExitSandman]

Slither was voted the least liked Metallica song. :lol:

Votes are nothing but opinions.

You're dyslexic, right?

No, he just doesn't like same songs as you.

Do you guys think Metallica would be better or worse if Lars were an excellent drummer, and added all kinds of complicated fills and rhythm?

No.

Drumming doesn't make a song sound totally different. If you add a simple or complex beat, the song's melody and such will still be the same. I think lars' playing fits metallica perfectly. It's nothing crazy as in dragonforce, but it's alot more complex than pop punk bands.

I command u to go buy there first 4 cds. Listen to them front to back dont skip the song if you dont like the intro. I guarentee u will come back and be like "slither is probly one of the worst of metallicas songs"

Ive met people that like there new stuff but never before have i seen anyone that doesnt like there old stuff if they like them at all.

u have to understand that OLD METALLICA = BEST MUSIC ON PLANET EARTH!

WTF?

I listened to all metallica's albums, and I must say I like st. anger more than load, and reload. I like black album more than any others. Aww, **** it, just shoot me because I like newer and older metallica stuff. I forgot it's forbidden to like newer metallica.

[^Dream~Theater^]

I command u to go buy there first 4 cds. Listen to them front to back dont skip the song if you dont like the intro. I guarentee u will come back and be like "slither is probly one of the worst of metallicas songs"

Ive met people that like there new stuff but never before have i seen anyone that doesnt like there old stuff if they like them at all.

u have to understand that OLD METALLICA = BEST MUSIC ON PLANET EARTH!
Just because you think old Tallica is unmatched, dosen't mean its the best music on the planet, its just an opinion.

[JH LU KH RT]

I listened to all metallica's albums, and I must say I like st. anger more than load, and reload. I like black album more than any others. Aww, **** it, just shoot me because I like newer and older metallica stuff. I forgot it's forbidden to like newer metallica.


I never said that u cant like there new stuff im just saying that there old stuff is better. I liked st.anger too a lot better than load/reload.

And i guess i should consider black to be there old stuff to i just never got real into it.

[Andrue]

I currently have these:
Master of puppets
Ride the lightning
Kill 'em all
The black one
Load
Reload

Not dislexic, getting better is my opinion only based on what I usually listen to.
I will review the other cd's and see what I missed the first time through them.

[ExitSandman]

I never said that u cant like there new stuff im just saying that there old stuff is better. I liked st.anger too a lot better than load/reload.

And i guess i should consider black to be there old stuff to i just never got real into it.

Yes, but just because you like older tallica more than newer doesn't mean it's best of metallica, or best music on the planet for that matter. I mean I can find a person that likes newer tallica more than older, so his opinion would be the opposite of yours. Nobody's wrong here, there is just no best music. It's all opinions and what you like or not.

[Freezing Moon]

Just because you think old Tallica is unmatched, dosen't mean its the best music on the planet, its just an opinion.

123. Opinions don't make it the best music on the planet.

No.

Drumming doesn't make a song sound totally different. If you add a simple or complex beat, the song's melody and such will still be the same. I think lars' playing fits metallica perfectly. It's nothing crazy as in dragonforce, but it's alot more complex than pop punk bands.


Of course it's more complicated than pop punk. I never said it had to be anything crazy like Dragonforce, I just think it would be cool if he added some more complicated stuff. The drumming obviously wouldn't change the melody, it would just add another element to the song, which could be cool.

[ThrashMaster27]

I agree, kind of. The Drumming in the first 3 albums is amazingly simplistic, especially in Kill 'Em All. It matters little though as it keeps the Rhythm together and sounds alright. It would be nice if he used complicated stuff now and again, but is he capable?

[Freezing Moon]

I agree, kind of. The Drumming in the first 3 albums is amazingly simplistic, especially in Kill 'Em All. It matters little though as it keeps the Rhythm together and sounds alright. It would be nice if he used complicated stuff now and again, but is he capable?

He probably could be, I was just wondering what it would be like if he had added complex drumming though, not necessarly if he could.

[ThrashMaster27]

Oh I know, but I'm considering stuff like Dyers Eve which he couldn't actually play. I'm not trying to put him down as a Drummer, even though I don't think he's very good...but anyway, yeah I think it would be interesting if he did try something complex in his Drumming, but not something different! Don't want the St. Anger garbage can Drumming again.

[HeRoOfThEdAy1589]

im not sure if i sent out my message a while back. i know i wrote it....im jsut not sure if i sent it.....but if i did you guys already saw it, if i didnt, well here it is again.....metallica fans are signing a petition to get rid of bob rock 'n hopefully change metallica's minds. now i dont mind bob rock cuz i like load/re-load n yes...a lil of st anger. but i wouldnt be sad to see him go. yes he produced the black album..great album but its not a MASTER OF PUPPETS. so yeah thats my thought on this. oh yeah...BRING BACK FLEMMING!

[Freezing Moon]

Oh I know, but I'm considering stuff like Dyers Eve which he couldn't actually play. I'm not trying to put him down as a Drummer, even though I don't think he's very good...but anyway, yeah I think it would be interesting if he did try something complex in his Drumming, but not something different! Don't want the St. Anger garbage can Drumming again.

Yeah, I heard they had to record Dyer's Eve in pieces because Lars couldn't do it for the whole song. I don't think he's great either, but he does keep the beat. I still think it would be cool if he did and was capable of doing some cool complex stuff.

[ThrashMaster27]

im not sure if i sent out my message a while back. i know i wrote it....im jsut not sure if i sent it.....but if i did you guys already saw it, if i didnt, well here it is again.....metallica fans are signing a petition to get rid of bob rock 'n hopefully change metallica's minds. now i dont mind bob rock cuz i like load/re-load n yes...a lil of st anger. but i wouldnt be sad to see him go. yes he produced the black album..great album but its not a MASTER OF PUPPETS. so yeah thats my thought on this. oh yeah...BRING BACK FLEMMING!

We saw it, we just didn't care.

[willis2441]

lars has no accentation on his hats,he has never had a lesson,hes not very good at double bass(besides those stupid little flams with his feet before he hits the snare),he never incorperates double bass into his beats, overall he is about a 6 on a scale of 1-10,but hey, hes better than me!

[rock_star_malky]

well im new here so i dont know whats going on in this thread newayz does ne one know when the new album is gona be released?

[willis2441]

well im new here so i dont know whats going on in this thread newayz does ne one know when the new album is gona be released?
use the search button,nOOb

[metal_milita]

He did find the right thread "newb." He didn't create an entire new one where you can flame him.
Or what is the search button going to lead him directly to the page where it was last discussed (~500). If your gonna try to burn someone, at least it makes sense dip****.
Some peoples attempts at "pwning" or w/e the **** you call it is sad

[Freezing Moon]

Both of you are pretty new, and so am I. Don't call people "n00b" until you aren't one yourself. Just be nice and help him out. Willis, sorry but that earns some - rep. Redeem yourself by not being a jackass, and I'll + you later.

Back to Metallica.

How did you get into Metallica in the first place?

I was into punk, and I needed something more challenging to play. Metallica seemed like the way to go, because I had heard some of it through my friends. I went out and bought RTL, and just went further into metal from there.

[metal_milita]

I got into Metallica through St. Anger, so I'm an embarassment to real metallica fans lol but I don't care, I can play almost all their songs (attempts) and know almost as much as them.

[willis2441]

Both of you are pretty new, and so am I. Don't call people "n00b" until you aren't one yourself. Just be nice and help him out. Willis, sorry but that earns some - rep. Redeem yourself by not being a jackass, and I'll + you later.

Back to Metallica.

How did you get into Metallica in the first place?

I was into punk, and I needed something more challenging to play. Metallica seemed like the way to go, because I had heard some of it through my friends. I went out and bought RTL, and just went further into metal from there.
i remember i was at my friends house and he put in RTL.the acoustic part for ffwf was so panzee(at least thats what i thought back then)and then BAM!!!!!!!that bada$$ guitar riff came in and i was sold right there.a week later i bought MOP and then a month later i bought RTL.then my friend burned me the black album,and i stole my friends load and my step dads KEA and AJFA,and my mom had reload so i was pretty much set.i just recently got s&m.anyone else??

[rock_star_malky]

i first got into metallica a couple years ago when i was working on the road and my co-workers onlylistened to metallca non stop 8 hours a day so i kinda got brainwashed and was hooked from ther but i didnt like st.anger so much and wilis try not being such a dick :lol:

[led_zep_luvr]

i slowing got into metallica,
not sure wich song(s) made me like them this much though but i know the first songs by them i heard were fade to black,sandman,unforgiven,St. Anger etc.

i like metallica alot but i haven't even been listening to them for that long
maybe like half a year

[KILO5203]

first song i heard was nothing else matters. i went and bought the black album, and loved it. then i really got into them when i got the first four albums.

[metal_milita]

NEM is such a good song its amazing. I'm obviously not talking about a metal song, but just a regular song.

Beats pop, punk, pop/punk, rap, raggae any day

[Huber]

NEM isn't something I listen to, but it is a great song. It was written by Hetfield to his girlfriend but then someone (Ulrich? I can't remember) told him to use it for the Black Album instead.

[Freezing Moon]

NEM isn't something I listen to, but it is a great song. It was written by Hetfield to his girlfriend but then someone (Ulrich? I can't remember) told him to use it for the Black Album instead.

That's a great song, even though I don't listen to it much. One of the things off the Black Album that I didn't mind as much. For the most part I don't mind the CD, but I just don't like it nearly as much as their previous stuff.

[KILO5203]

NEM is such a good song its amazing. I'm obviously not talking about a metal song, but just a regular song.

Beats pop, punk, pop/punk, rap, raggae any day
I agree. That was the first song by them i heard though, and it surprised me actually. Back then i didnt figure they did any slow songs like that.

[MetallicA]

I'm going to change the topic forgive me for this but I have a question. I find I'm a good guitar player. Most of my solo's are Kirk Hammett solo's I just need a good warm up and I can play just like him. I only have one trouble thought regarding the essence of thrash metal. When I palm mute and I strike low e really fast it sounds good but MetallicA sounds so much better (faster). How do they do it is it both James and Kirk's speed put together, or is it just James, maybe is it something I need to practice? Please any tips on this?

[metal_milita]

A lot of the great clean guitar riffs that james writes are when he is alone and just with himself. Its when he involves everyone else in one big jam session where riffs like "st.anger" are born.
edit: Clean riffs/solo's for One were written by him in 85~ in a truck while he was on break at some cement site/building site.

[metal_milita]

I'm going to change the topic forgive me for this but I have a question. I find I'm a good guitar player. Most of my solo's are Kirk Hammett solo's I just need a good warm up and I can play just like him. I only have one trouble thought regarding the essence of thrash metal. When I palm mute and I strike low e really fast it sounds good but MetallicA sounds so much better (faster). How do they do it is it both James and Kirk's speed put together, or is it just James, maybe is it something I need to practice? Please any tips on this?

Uptil Black Album, James played all the riffs and Kirk just recorded solo's. Then it was Bob rocks turn to step up and let Kirk do rythm to get the live feel of Metallica, and to let him contribute to the music writing. they've gone downhill since. Kirk is too jazzy and classical to be able to come up with riffs like Creeping Death, RTL etc that are Metallica's classics.

As for the sound, James uses ESP'S live that are famous for palm mutes quality (right?) and they always have the ever so useful sound editor for albums to really make the palm muted E sound out.

[Freezing Moon]

I'm going to change the topic forgive me for this but I have a question. I find I'm a good guitar player. Most of my solo's are Kirk Hammett solo's I just need a good warm up and I can play just like him. I only have one trouble thought regarding the essence of thrash metal. When I palm mute and I strike low e really fast it sounds good but MetallicA sounds so much better (faster). How do they do it is it both James and Kirk's speed put together, or is it just James, maybe is it something I need to practice? Please any tips on this?

A lot of it has to do with the pickups and amps. Turn it way up, and it will probably sound better. :)

Also, James does a lot of downpicking, and that has a different sound than alternate picking.

[MetallicA]

What do you think it mostly is the equipment or James that get's that good sound.

[metal_milita]

A lot of it has to do with the pickups and amps. Turn it way up, and it will probably sound better. :)

Also, James does a lot of downpicking, and that has a different sound than alternate picking.

Ya, down picking has a much better sound to it IMO than alternate picking on the low strings. But for the spider chord riff from MOP, I have no clue how Jamez can pull it off so easily while doing all his crazy performance faces. I have to concentrate like a bitch to just get it while alternate picking.

[MetallicA]

OH ok thanx never mind my last post then thanx "the chosen one". By the way I like down picking more it does have a better sound.

[metal_milita]

What do you think it mostly is the equipment or James that get's that good sound.

James. You can hand Petrucci the same equipment as James, but he'll never get that copyrighted feel and excitement that James can create.

[KILO5203]

Ya, down picking has a much better sound to it IMO than alternate picking on the low strings. But for the spider chord riff from MOP, I have no clue how Jamez can pull it off so easily while doing all his crazy performance faces. I have to concentrate like a bitch to just get it while alternate picking.
Yeah me too, i have to concentrate. He plays while running around, and not evening paying attention to his guitar.

[Freezing Moon]

Ya, down picking has a much better sound to it IMO than alternate picking on the low strings. But for the spider chord riff from MOP, I have no clue how Jamez can pull it off so easily while doing all his crazy performance faces. I have to concentrate like a bitch to just get it while alternate picking.

Yeah, no kidding. I can alternate pick it just fine, but there is no way I can downpick it that well. It would take so much practice for me to get it like that.

Spider Riff? Is that what Mustaine made up? I always wondered what that was.

[MetallicA]

Al right then thanks for the help. New questiong it's just opinion. I'm thinking of what Metallica solo to learn but I can't decide just name one so I can get started.

[KILO5203]

can anyone play the ...and justice for all solo? i love that one

[Freezing Moon]

Al right then thanks for the help. New questiong it's just opinion. I'm thinking of what Metallica solo to learn but I can't decide just name one so I can get started.

Creeping Death, Ride the Lighting, or Blackened. Go.

[metal_milita]

Yeah, no kidding. I can alternate pick it just fine, but there is no way I can downpick it that well. It would take so much practice for me to get it like that.

Spider Riff? Is that what Mustaine made up? I always wondered what that was.
Ya well theoretically, if what Mustaine is true about how he made it up. otherwise its credited to James.
I don't exactly know what a spider chord is, and I'm sure its not even a chord but just a left hand "moving" pattern. I guess if you do it really fast, it looks like a spider is crawling..... Thats my theory, because I asked once and no one really responded back.

[MetallicA]

can anyone play the ...and justice for all solo? i love that one

I know the interlude and solo. Lot's of fun.

[MetallicA]

Creeping Death, Ride the Lighting, or Blackened. Go.

Thanks I'll go with Ride. :thumb:

[led_zep_luvr]

Creeping Death, Ride the Lighting, or Blackened. Go.
fight fire with fire, one, the unforgiven etc.

[metal_milita]

Creeping Death, Ride the Lighting, or Blackened. Go.
Holy crap, you must be some guitarist if those are the solos you start on. I don't even want to know what you would end on.

If you're not a crazy *** mother****er like the chosenone, then try something like
Sanitarium
NEM (doesn't get any easier really)
One (sounds hard, really isn't)
Fade to Black
Practically any other Metallica songs exept for the ones chosenone mentioned + dyers eve.

[MetallicA]

fight fire with fire, one, the unforgiven etc.

Already know one and unforgiven.

[Freezing Moon]

Holy crap, you must be some guitarist if those are the solos you start on. I don't even want to know what you would end on.

If you're not a crazy *** mother****er like the chosenone, then try something like
Sanitarium
NEM (doesn't get any easier really)
One (sounds hard, really isn't)
Fade to Black
Practically any other Metallica songs exept for the ones chosenone mentioned + dyers eve.

They aren't that hard. They just take some practice to get down well. I'm not crazy, my friend who nailed Creeping Death in a half an hour is crazy. I have to try to keep up with him becaues I'm in his band. That helps make me a lot better.

Thanks I'll go with Ride.
Good choice.

[metal_milita]

The funnest metallica song I have learned to play has to be the four horsemen. Something about that song is just so....... appealing. Lyrics/message/music/structure, who knows. Its just awsome.

[Freezing Moon]

The funnest metallica song I have learned to play has to be the four horsemen. Something about that song is just so....... appealing. Lyrics/message/music/structure, who knows. Its just awsome.

I like playing that song, but I mainly learned it so I could play Mechanix. :)

I want to learn that solo, but I haven't gotten around to it yet.

[metal_milita]

Its easy, reminds me a lot of Sanitarium with its bends and random speed changes

[led_zep_luvr]

AJFA must win

i know some of you have other accounts log in and vote for AJFA i want it to win so bad

[Freezing Moon]

AJFA must win

i know some of you have other accounts log in and vote for AJFA i want it to win so bad

If only the bass was better on that album, then I would. I might anyway though.

[metal_milita]

The bass thing is made too big of an issue. Its bad, but the album is still the best representation of Metal i have heard yet

[led_zep_luvr]

i didn't really notice the lack of bass until people mentioned it hear but it doesn't matter to me that much

[Freezing Moon]

The bass thing is made too big of an issue. Its bad, but the album is still the best representation of Metal i have heard yet

I think their albums before that were better. I don't try to make a big deal of the bass. I just don't like the fact that it's lacking it, because it could have been so much better. That said, Blackened owns.

[CreepingDeath~]

I Wonder what AJFA would sound like with bass.....

[led_zep_luvr]

it wouldn't sound that much different

[rock_star_malky]

okay i know im new and all but can i make a topic change? whats ur favorie album?
i cant realy decide i like prety much all of them but i just cant get into the stanger cd no matter how hard i try it feels like somethings lacking i think rob (new bassist) is better suited for old metallica

[CreepingDeath~]

okay i know im new and all but can i make a topic change? whats ur favorie album?
i cant realy decide i like prety much all of them but i just cant get into the stanger cd no matter how hard i try it feels like somethings lacking i think rob (new bassist) is better suited for old metallica

My favorite would either be Ride the Lightning or Master of puppets.

I really like St. Anger, even though the majority of Metallica fans hate it.

Also, Rob never played on St. anger, if you meant something is lacking on St. Anger because of the bass.

[rock_star_malky]

My favorite would either be Ride the Lightning or Master of puppets.

I really like St. Anger, even though the majority of Metallica fans hate it.

Also, Rob never played on St. anger, if you meant something is lacking on St. Anger because of the bass.

i know rob never played on saint anger but i meant for his style the way he plays int the words of metallica "he reminds them of cliff"

[CreepingDeath~]

Ok I see what you mean now

[rock_star_malky]

does neone think rob will have an effect on where metallica is going?

[led_zep_luvr]

does neone think rob will have an effect on where metallica is going?
hopefully not but i am sure he will affect how the new album will sound

[rock_star_malky]

hopefully not but i am sure he will affect how the new album will sound


but do u think he will change them for better or worse?

[led_zep_luvr]

but do u think he will change them for better or worse?
probably better than jason but if cliff was in the band he would make them play good music

[led_zep_luvr]

g'night everyone.

[ExitSandman]

does neone think rob will have an effect on where metallica is going?

I doubt it. Most people say it's good, so I wouldn't mind if he does have an effect on their next album.

g'night everyone.

Peace. :wave:

[hammet_ownz]

of all the songs you can play by metallica, what would you choose if you had the chance to play it on a stage with the guys with 20 000 fans watching?

fade to black cos im a bassist and theres less chance i would muff it up, and i could cruise around a bit hey

[W.M.A]

id have to say master of puppets or creeping death

[ArcLite]

Master of Puppets or Blackened I would very much enjoy laying down on stage. MOP would probably be the best crowd pleaser.

[led_zep_luvr]

fade to black