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cliff solos for all
02-02-2005, 03:30 PM
i think they should have put on i dissappear,-human and no leaf clover

Mister_Che
02-02-2005, 03:31 PM
i think they should have put on i dissappear,-human and no leaf clover

But why? It takes away the magic of the original. Most people claim to be massive Metallica fans yet they haven't heard these songs.

Huber
02-02-2005, 03:35 PM
Yeah, Bob Rock is just a producer. At the end of it all Metallica writes and play the music, he just shouts at them and twists a few knobs. I'm aware he also played Bass on St. Anger aswell, but that's besides the point, I don't think even Les Claypool could have saved that album with Bass alone.

Yeah, and Les Claypool is like, Superman

cliff solos for all
02-02-2005, 03:36 PM
But why? It takes away the magic of the original. Most people claim to be massive Metallica fans yet they haven't heard these songs.

i am a massive fan
but i dissappear wasnt on an album and -human and clover would be good with out orchestra

Mister_Che
02-02-2005, 03:52 PM
i am a massive fan
but i dissappear wasnt on an album and -human and clover would be good with out orchestra

I WOULD love a studio version of Clover. Think about it though, the material for those songs predates Load, to have them bring it now would be seen as a sad attempt to return to what they used to be by many fans.

Leper
02-02-2005, 04:03 PM
The only thing was that he thought the new metallica sounded good. It wasn't bad, I admit, it just was far from the metallica i grew to love

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Leper
02-02-2005, 04:13 PM
I WOULD love a studio version of Clover. Think about it though, the material for those songs predates Load, to have them bring it now would be seen as a sad attempt to return to what they used to be by many fans.

i wouldn't mind at all seeing an attempt to return to what they used to be. :p

Mister_Che
02-02-2005, 04:21 PM
i wouldn't mind at all seeing an attempt to return to what they used to be. :p

Yeah, but using these songs wouldn't be right, they've been played at their concerts for years.

Leper
02-02-2005, 04:29 PM
Yeah, but using these songs wouldn't be right, they've been played at their concerts for years.

That's very true, and as much as i like AC/DC, i hate how they've re-released old songs on new albums time and time again, and i'd hate for Metallica to follow that trend, tho it wouldn't quite be the same, but still bad enough.

JACKROXYOU
02-02-2005, 06:05 PM
that would suck to see master on the new album

Joe
02-02-2005, 07:18 PM
that would suck to see master on the new album

I think this new album should be all new songs and the album after that needs to be greatest hits 1981-1991 then the one after greatest hits 1991-200? (?=whenever next album comes out)

FlyingPaul_83
02-02-2005, 07:27 PM
Metallica needs to come out with another ride the lightning type album. IMO that is thier best album

Joe
02-02-2005, 07:29 PM
Metallica needs to come out with another ride the lightning type album. IMO that is thier best album

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but we know that they won't. i also don't think they physically can, i don't think kirk can solo that fast anymore

just pray to god it's no st anger

Eitri Is Berserk
02-02-2005, 07:31 PM
I think this new album should be all new songs and the album after that needs to be greatest hits 1981-1991 then the one after greatest hits 1991-200? (?=whenever next album comes out)

New recordings or first recordings?

Joe
02-02-2005, 07:33 PM
New recordings or first recordings?

Original. If you want new recordings of all their old stuff go buy one of their concerts

Eitri Is Berserk
02-02-2005, 07:35 PM
It'd be a good idea, but if they did it.. I wonder if they would choose their true great hits.. Or just the most well known.. Some of the best songs (RTL, Harvester of Sorrow) arn't their best known songs.

willis2441
02-02-2005, 07:36 PM
metallica will never be as popular as they used to, i dont think they can play as good as they used to.

mtlibnzplyr
02-02-2005, 07:42 PM
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but we know that they won't. i also don't think they physically can, i don't think kirk can solo that fast anymore


yeah i herd that kirks starting to get arthritis

Joe
02-02-2005, 07:43 PM
It'd be a good idea, but if they did it.. I wonder if they would choose their true great hits.. Or just the most well known.. Some of the best songs (RTL, Harvester of Sorrow) arn't their best known songs.

well...here are my 18 for a cd (not in my fav order, but would make a good cd)

1) Battery
2) Master of Puppets
3) Ride the Lightning
4) The Four Horsemen
5) Fade to Black
6) ...And Justice for All
7) Enter Sandman
8) One
9) Creeping Death
10) Nothing Else Matters
11) Sanitarium
12) Sad But True
13) For Whom the Bell Tolls
14) Disposable Heros
15) Fight Fire with Fire
16) Harvester of Sorrow
17) Seek and Destroy
18) Call of the Ktulu

it's ok, the first ones are good and i like the end, but i was on the phone and thinking of this at the same time

Joe
02-02-2005, 07:51 PM
yeah i herd that kirks starting to get arthritis

that sucks. he's a great guitarist

Eitri Is Berserk
02-02-2005, 07:55 PM
well...here are my 18 for a cd (not in my fav order, but would make a good cd)

1) Battery
2) Master of Puppets
3) Ride the Lightning
4) The Four Horsemen
5) Fade to Black
6) ...And Justice for All
7) Enter Sandman
8) One
9) Creeping Death
10) Nothing Else Matters
11) Sanitarium
12) Sad But True
13) For Whom the Bell Tolls
14) Disposable Heros
15) Fight Fire with Fire
16) Harvester of Sorrow
17) Seek and Destroy
18) Call of the Ktulu

it's ok, the first ones are good and i like the end, but i was on the phone and thinking of this at the same time

:amaze: Nothing off of Kill 'Em All? Some of the best tracks they have are on that cd.. "Am I Evil", for one.

Joe
02-02-2005, 08:03 PM
:amaze: Nothing off of Kill 'Em All? Some of the best tracks they have are on that cd.. "Am I Evil", for one.

you seemed to miss numbers 4 and 17

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 08:05 PM
well...here are my 18 for a cd (not in my fav order, but would make a good cd)

1) Battery
2) Master of Puppets
3) Ride the Lightning
4) The Four Horsemen
5) Fade to Black
6) ...And Justice for All
7) Enter Sandman
8) One
9) Creeping Death
10) Nothing Else Matters
11) Sanitarium
12) Sad But True
13) For Whom the Bell Tolls
14) Disposable Heros
15) Fight Fire with Fire
16) Harvester of Sorrow
17) Seek and Destroy
18) Call of the Ktulu

it's ok, the first ones are good and i like the end, but i was on the phone and thinking of this at the same time

yea that is a good list :thumb: ....but i would replace Call of Ktulu with Orion (it's better IMO)

Joe
02-02-2005, 08:06 PM
yea that is a good list :thumb: ....but i would replace Call of Ktulu with Orion (it's better IMO)

well im thinking about the majority of the people. i like orion better too

Freezing Moon
02-02-2005, 08:39 PM
well im thinking about the majority of the people. i like orion better too

I used to like Orion better, until I had to play it for some school project. We never finished because the person I was playing with sucked, and didn't learn half the song. The result was that I over-played it and got tired of it.

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 08:42 PM
i listen the Orion just to hear the solo at the end....for some reason i really like it

Joe
02-02-2005, 08:44 PM
I used to like Orion better, until I had to play it for some school project. We never finished because the person I was playing with sucked, and didn't learn half the song. The result was that I over-played it and got tired of it.

oooh, i think Call of Ktulu is so much easier to learn. it repeats riffs constantly for 9 mins, but it kicks ***

Orion i think is just cooler. it's not as repetitive. i haven't decided which solos i like better

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 08:46 PM
I found out tonight that metallica was mentioned on an episode of Seinfeld dident know that...

Joe
02-02-2005, 08:47 PM
I found out tonight that metallica was mentioned on an episode of Seinfeld dident know that...

cool, what was the context?

FlyingPaul_83
02-02-2005, 08:48 PM
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but we know that they won't. i also don't think they physically can, i don't think kirk can solo that fast anymore

just pray to god it's no st anger

True.... I just hope they make a new cd that's leaned towards their earlier days.. none of this ST. ANGER Crap

Joe
02-02-2005, 08:50 PM
True.... I just hope they make a new cd that's leaned towards their earlier days.. none of this ST. ANGER Crap

i wouldn't call it crap, it's just not the good metallica. and after the 6th minute of each song it becomes crap

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 08:55 PM
Some cab driver was talking about how he went to a heavy metal concert and said "metallia" and kramer correct him by saying "ca"

nothing much

Joe
02-02-2005, 08:57 PM
Some cab driver was talking about how he went to a heavy metal concert and said "metallia" and kramer correct him by saying "ca"

nothing much

oh. eh, nothing much.

willis2441
02-02-2005, 09:00 PM
my list for a cd would go
1. creeping death
2.fade to black
3.the four horsemen
4.hit the lights
5,metal militia
6.the call of ktulu
7.master of puppets
8.disposable heroes
9.leper messiah
10.orion
11.damage inc.
12.one
13.dyers eve
14.to live is to die
15.the unforgiven
16.sad but true
17.enter sandman
18.until it sleeps
19.king nothing
20.fixxxer
21.the unforgiven ll
22.turn the page
23.some kind of monster
24.st. anger

Joe
02-02-2005, 09:04 PM
my list for a cd would go
1. creeping death
2.fade to black
3.the four horsemen
4.hit the lights
5,metal militia
6.the call of ktulu
7.master of puppets
8.disposable heroes
9.leper messiah
10.orion
11.damage inc.
12.one
13.dyers eve
14.to live is to die
15.the unforgiven
16.sad but true
17.enter sandman
18.until it sleeps
19.king nothing
20.fixxxer
21.the unforgiven ll
22.turn the page
23.some kind of monster
24.st. anger

no RTL or Sanitarium??? no Seek and Destroy???

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 09:09 PM
i liked gocaps99's better

Joe
02-02-2005, 09:17 PM
cool, i win.

i'm tryin to think of a new topic we haven't talked about...

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 09:21 PM
Did you Guys Know That The Album "Kill Em All" was Recorded In 17 Days

I think Thats Good For Such A Great Album

Joe
02-02-2005, 09:24 PM
Did you Guys Know That The Album "Kill Em All" was Recorded In 17 Days

I think Thats Good For Such A Great Album

well see what happens is they were all ready. they new all of their songs that they wanted to record when they first walked into the studio. they only reason st anger took so long is because they went into the studios with absolutely no work done.

Joe
02-02-2005, 09:24 PM
Did you Guys Know That The Album "Kill Em All" was Recorded In 17 Days

I think Thats Good For Such A Great Album

well see what happens is they were all ready. they knew all of their songs that they wanted to record when they first walked into the studio. they only reason st anger took so long is because they went into the studios with absolutely no work done.

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 09:26 PM
True i guess

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 09:33 PM
What song do you think has to most catchy lyrics ?
Disposable Heros
Battery
and Hit the lights

JACKROXYOU
02-02-2005, 09:35 PM
disposable ive listened to so many times

but battery is really catchy

metal_milita
02-02-2005, 09:43 PM
well...here are my 18 for a cd (not in my fav order, but would make a good cd)

1) Battery
2) Master of Puppets
3) Ride the Lightning
4) The Four Horsemen
5) Fade to Black
6) ...And Justice for All
7) Enter Sandman
8) One
9) Creeping Death
10) Nothing Else Matters
11) Sanitarium
12) Sad But True
13) For Whom the Bell Tolls
14) Disposable Heros
15) Fight Fire with Fire
16) Harvester of Sorrow
17) Seek and Destroy
18) Call of the Ktulu

it's ok, the first ones are good and i like the end, but i was on the phone and thinking of this at the same time

No Blackened? Dyers Eve? Good list, and actually its hard to replace any of the songs with those. I would consider trading NOM (2 slowish songs already) and Enter Sandman for one. Or even Sad But True for "To Live is to Die"

JACKROXYOU
02-02-2005, 09:47 PM
put enter sandman for one?!?!

how bout you trade nem for trapped under ice or escape

varsis
02-02-2005, 10:08 PM
Well, as I am new here and was not here to experience all 493 pages of metallica stuff I am going to post this I am sorry if there is already a post like it. Well I have just started to learn some of the metallica Solo's but they seem all over the place and wacky some of the "cords" don't seem right, does any one have any ideas about the solo in Blitzkrieg, I would really like to learn how to play solo's good,if any has any suggestions on how to learn solo's quick and painless as possible please tell me! any way is better then no way, I know a few solo's and metallica has some of the best solo's out there from what I like for music. I have been playing guitar for about two years and have really fast fingers but the solo's seem all jumbled up all over the place.... Thanks to all replies in advance

Joe
02-02-2005, 10:54 PM
Well, as I am new here and was not here to experience all 493 pages of metallica stuff I am going to post this I am sorry if there is already a post like it. Well I have just started to learn some of the metallica Solo's but they seem all over the place and wacky some of the "cords" don't seem right, does any one have any ideas about the solo in Blitzkrieg, I would really like to learn how to play solo's good,if any has any suggestions on how to learn solo's quick and painless as possible please tell me! any way is better then no way, I know a few solo's and metallica has some of the best solo's out there from what I like for music. I have been playing guitar for about two years and have really fast fingers but the solo's seem all jumbled up all over the place.... Thanks to all replies in advance

the best way to find out what james is playing during solos is to buy the music books. when i was recording sanitarium myself i had no idea what to play during the solos. the book tells you what riffs to play when

get like the real album ones tho, don't get like "ledgedary guitar riffs: Metallica" or stuff like that

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 11:13 PM
What are your thoughts on the Metallica Based Video game ?

Huber
02-02-2005, 11:16 PM
Is there some kind of demo for it? I think it's gunna be just some other game with the name Metallica on it.

Freezing Moon
02-02-2005, 11:16 PM
What are your thoughts on the Metallica Based Video game ?

That could be sweet, or completly lame, depending on how they do it. Link to information?

It sounds like a money-making scam or something to me.

MoX_KIll
02-02-2005, 11:23 PM
here's the link
sounds like a twisted metal rip-off i still wanna try it
http://www.allmetallica.com/other/

i_love_my_epiphone
02-03-2005, 07:24 AM
has anyone saw some kind of monster? I want to buy it altho i have no money and dont get payed untill friday :upset: , is it worth buying?

Death Unlimited
02-03-2005, 07:26 AM
its worth a watch

i_love_my_epiphone
02-03-2005, 07:44 AM
well thats me convinced

VHRocks
02-03-2005, 09:16 AM
Metallica is the f--king orignal, first and last, best and brightest. But what the hell. I know this is old news and all but Jason getting the shaft. Thats some bullsh-t! He is the number one bassist in the f--king free world! Just listen to that riff in "The God That Failed" tell me that isnt one of the best riffs you've ever heard. That new guy is alright but, I aint going to wait in line to get Metallica tickets to see that guy. I want Jason!

God Bless You, Jason,

VHRocks

P.S. "Some Kind of Monster" is the f--king bomb! Kill'em All!

munky_magik
02-03-2005, 09:19 AM
Metallica is the f--king orignal, first and last, best and brightest. But what the hell. I know this is old news and all but Jason getting the shaft. Thats some bullsh-t! He is the number one bassist in the f--king free world! Just listen to that riff in "The God That Failed" tell me that isnt one of the best riffs you've ever heard. That new guy is alright but, I aint going to wait in line to get Metallica tickets to see that guy. I want Jason!

God Bless You, Jason,

VHRocks

P.S. "Some Kind of Monster" is the f--king bomb! Kill'em All!

Actually, that isn't one of the best riffs I've heard. Far from it.

Eitri Is Berserk
02-03-2005, 09:41 AM
Actually, that isn't one of the best riffs I've heard. Far from it.

I've read two of that guys posts.. He thinks he knows everything about music. In The Black Sabbath thread he said 'Tony Iommi and Randy Rhoads are the best guitarists ever' :rolleyes:

The God tha Failed isn't the best riff ever. Not by a long shot.

Leper
02-03-2005, 01:50 PM
I've read two of that guys posts.. He thinks he knows everything about music. In The Black Sabbath thread he said 'Tony Iommi and Randy Rhoads are the best guitarists ever' :rolleyes:

The God tha Failed isn't the best riff ever. Not by a long shot.

I think a couple IMO's here and there would really help save his reputation..then again he only has 17 posts so what's to save?

Joe
02-03-2005, 01:55 PM
I've read two of that guys posts.. He thinks he knows everything about music. In The Black Sabbath thread he said 'Tony Iommi and Randy Rhoads are the best guitarists ever' :rolleyes:

The God tha Failed isn't the best riff ever. Not by a long shot.

Randy Rhoads and Iommi kick major ***, but i wouldn't call them the best.

and no, it's far from the best. i'd say the best riff was the entire MOP intro or fade to black

Joe
02-03-2005, 02:12 PM
What are your thoughts on the Metallica Based Video game ?
You could like be there manager, expect somewhat them too. You buy their guitars and clothes n ****. You manage their tours and their groupies and their equipment. Then you control the studio, and you hold back production of St. Anger

Leper
02-03-2005, 02:32 PM
You could like be there manager, expect somewhat them too. You buy their guitars and clothes n ****. You manage their tours and their groupies and their equipment. Then you control the studio, and you hold back production of St. Anger

nice finish! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Joe
02-03-2005, 02:35 PM
nice finish! :lol: :lol: :lol:

lol thanks. i think i'd finally put out the greatest hits cd

and i'd make arthritis illegal, so now kirk can play forever

Joe
02-03-2005, 02:53 PM
see this is the thing with this thread. it's the one i post in the most and there's only 5 or 6 regular posters and they're never on. the RM community theres always ppl talking and here im just kinda bored...

Leper
02-03-2005, 02:55 PM
Ya a greatest hits cd would be sweet, tho there'd definitely be huge descrepancies over the songs on it. It'd have to be 2 maybe even 3 discs.

Joe
02-03-2005, 02:55 PM
Oh yea. I'd expect a four cd set

Mister_Che
02-03-2005, 03:09 PM
You people are insane. I'd say 4 and a half with the other half being a DVD.

Huber
02-03-2005, 03:10 PM
They might as well just re-release KEA, RTL, MOP, and AJFA in the same set. I'm not saying that there isn't any better Metallica, but that's what people would cut it down too.

S&M is good enough for me right now.

Joe
02-03-2005, 03:13 PM
They might as well just re-release KEA, RTL, MOP, and AJFA in the same set. I'm not saying that there isn't any better Metallica, but that's what people would cut it down too.

S&M is good enough for me right now.


Ok here's what it should be

3 CD's of hits, all of the cds.
1 DVD of music videos
1 DVD of Cliff footage
1 DVD of post-Cliff footage

and then a bigass poster with a 30 page color booklet

Mister_Che
02-03-2005, 03:21 PM
and then a bigass poster with a 30 page color booklet

You do mean 300 right? And it shoudl be a book, not a booklet. :thumb:

Leper
02-03-2005, 03:21 PM
Ya but if we're gonna logically consider this we have to think of what Metallica considers as their best material. We all love Kill em All on this forum but does Metallica consider it some of their best material? Who knows, but what i do know is that when I went to see them in concert, much to my dismay, they ignored KEA entirely. I know in other sets they added in some KEA here and there, but this is why i think that realistically Metallica probably wouldn't consider more than 2 or maybe 3 discs for a greatest hits album. I would love to see more, but IMO it would be 2 or 3.

Joe
02-03-2005, 03:24 PM
Ya but if we're gonna logically consider this we have to think of what Metallica considers as their best material. We all love Kill em All on this forum but does Metallica consider it some of their best material? Who knows, but what i do know is that when I went to see them in concert, much to my dismay, they ignored KEA entirely. I know in other sets they added in some KEA here and there, but this is why i think that realistically Metallica probably wouldn't consider more than 2 or maybe 3 discs for a greatest hits album. I would love to see more, but IMO it would be 2 or 3.

Your right. I would, logically, assume it would consist of what they play most at concerts

Huber
02-03-2005, 03:34 PM
Ok here's what it should be

3 CD's of hits, all of the cds.
1 DVD of music videos
1 DVD of Cliff footage
1 DVD of post-Cliff footage

and then a bigass poster with a 30 page color booklet

That sounds kool. they should do that.

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 03:36 PM
see this is the thing with this thread. it's the one i post in the most and there's only 5 or 6 regular posters and they're never on. the RM community theres always ppl talking and here im just kinda bored...
Believe it or not, this is the only thread I post in, but I just don't have time to be online all the time. Because of that, I miss all the interesting stuff!!! :evil:

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 03:44 PM
Oh my God, I'm playin the acoustic right now, cause my electric is in the other room. Don't play Of Wolf and Man on the acoustic. It sounds like poo.

Burdcheese
02-03-2005, 03:48 PM
OT: but congrats on the stars gocaps

Joe
02-03-2005, 04:08 PM
Oh my God, I'm playin the acoustic right now, cause my electric is in the other room. Don't play Of Wolf and Man on the acoustic. It sounds like poo.

Acoustic... only play Unforgiven, FTB intro, FFWF intro, One Intro, and Nothing else matters on acoustic

OT: but congrats on the stars gocaps

thanks :thumb:

rep+ to you, you've broken 1000 posts

JACKROXYOU
02-03-2005, 04:12 PM
Ok here's what it should be

3 CD's of hits, all of the cds.
1 DVD of music videos
1 DVD of Cliff footage
1 DVD of post-Cliff footage

and then a bigass poster with a 30 page color booklet

sounds good where do i sign?

JACKROXYOU
02-03-2005, 04:13 PM
Acoustic... only play Unforgiven, FTB intro, FFWF intro, One Intro, and Nothing else matters on acoustic



thanks :thumb:

rep+ to you, you've broken 1000 posts

wheres mine dude?

Joe
02-03-2005, 04:25 PM
wheres mine dude?

up your ***, you double posted


i'm just jokin, rep+

JACKROXYOU
02-03-2005, 04:28 PM
what the hell is that?

Joe
02-03-2005, 04:30 PM
what the hell is that?
it's like xanga in another language or something...

JACKROXYOU
02-03-2005, 04:34 PM
fun

sounds great

Joe
02-03-2005, 04:39 PM
fun

sounds great

what's your rep now?

Burdcheese
02-03-2005, 04:45 PM
Cheers - still a long way to go though.

Only 457 atm

lightningmetal666
02-03-2005, 04:48 PM
i liked metallica's older stuff better than there new (who doesn't?), but my favorite song out of all would be master of puppets.

i like how it goes from there normal stuff in that song, to nice and soft and slow, then to unique solo's

i also like enter sandman, its a preety well balanced song.

lets try to keep this thread alive

I totally agree with you there but I'm more into Kill 'em All and Ride The Lightning than anything else. That's not to say I won't listen to
And justice or the older albums, (hell the first cd i ever owned to
was ...And Justice for All), but from Puppetz and below was and will always
be Metallica at their best

JACKROXYOU
02-03-2005, 04:49 PM
what's your rep now?

659

FFbassist26
02-03-2005, 05:18 PM
i say they sell all the cds, some music videos, some live stuff, some stuff about cliff, the 300 page book and poster, and then we get to listen to lars ulrich(still an awesome drummer) bitch about not getting enough money for it all.

Mister_Che
02-03-2005, 05:28 PM
i say they sell all the cds, some music videos, some live stuff, some stuff about cliff, the 300 page book and poster, and then we get to listen to lars ulrich(still an awesome drummer) bitch about not getting enough money for it all.

It'll happen no matter what. :cool:

Master Of Nebulah Frost
02-03-2005, 05:51 PM
......courtesy of MetalliGreed!!!

lightningmetal666
02-03-2005, 05:58 PM
Well if people want to talk about Metallica songs outside the fade to black, master of
puppets, etc box, then lets talk about songs like Fight fire with fire, Orion, Blackened,
and Wherever I may roam. First off, songs like fight fire w/ fire and blackened are the
epitome of what (Just my opinion, I don't want to
start no fights) Metallica should sound like. They started off as thrash and should end as thrash. I love the intro to fight fire with fire. It starts off as a soft melody that masks the brutal grind that follows. I LOVE when metal bands do that. I try to implement in my own song whenever possible.
Next, Songs like Orion are just ****ing awesome. I noticed that clear up to the
black album, every album had an instrumental piece.
(My Personal favorite Instrumental is The Call of the Ktulu.) This is a clear example of
musicianship that so many other bands lack. I think that metallica's popularity
with some of their more hardcore fans dwindled when they stopped doing these.
Lastly, Songs like Wherever I May Roam really drive the musicianship point home.

JACKROXYOU
02-03-2005, 06:35 PM
good for you :thumb:

but people like fade, master, etc

myself i love the tracks you mentioned, just dont forget disposable heroes

orian rocks

JH LU KH RT
02-03-2005, 06:59 PM
I think that the perfect example of what Metallica should be is the ...and justice for all cd. You have the thrash on blackened and dyers eve, one and ...and justice for alll are just 2 amazing songs that have quiet, loud, fast, and slow parts, and then theres the instrumental with a little acoustic part, to live is to die. People say that there only good albums were there first three but i highly disagree.

Freezing Moon
02-03-2005, 07:05 PM
I think that the perfect example of what Metallica should be is the ...and justice for all cd. You have the thrash on blackened and dyers eve, one and ...and justice for alll are just 2 amazing songs that have quiet, loud, fast, and slow parts, and then theres the instrumental with a little acoustic part, to live is to die. People say that there only good albums were there first three but i highly disagree.

I'd have to say that I'd disagree, but only because of the lack of bass on that album. Blackened is a sweet song though, I haven't listened to it for a long time.

MoX_KIll
02-03-2005, 07:27 PM
i say they sell all the cds, some music videos, some live stuff, some stuff about cliff, the 300 page book and poster, and then we get to listen to lars ulrich(still an awesome drummer) bitch about not getting enough money for it all.

Hasent that been done before ? :confused:

Slash
02-03-2005, 07:27 PM
Who has seen some kind of monster it kicks *** its worth every penney

MoX_KIll
02-03-2005, 07:32 PM
I wanna rent it before i buy it ,gotta get some monney though

Freezing Moon
02-03-2005, 07:44 PM
I want to see it, I hear they got a cheap shot on Mustaine in it though..

I don't understand the rivalry. I don't see why Dave is so sore, but I don't see why its a big deal in the first place either. I'd be pissed if I was kicked out of Metallica, but I wouldn't care like 20 years later, especially if I created Megadeth.

MoX_KIll
02-03-2005, 07:58 PM
Very true.....Megadeth is my 3rd favourite band they can make just as good music as metallica...but he may be jealous of their popularity and their $$$$

Huber
02-03-2005, 08:34 PM
Dave Mustaine in my eyes is a good musician, but nothing more as a person. If he shows more of what he did after he hosted the Dimebag headbanger's ball than maybe I'll give him some more credit.

A 20 year fued is just ridiculous. I think we can all agree that Slayer, Metallica, and Megadeth are all Thrash pioneers. I don't think Mustaine realises how much better it'd be to have a good relationship with them.

Joe
02-03-2005, 08:40 PM
I wanna rent it before i buy it ,gotta get some monney though

no don't bother. it's a waste of 3 dollars. just go buy it

Dave Mustaine in my eyes is a good musician, but nothing more as a person. If he shows more of what he did after he hosted the Dimebag headbanger's ball than maybe I'll give him some more credit.


A 20 year fued is just ridiculous. I think we can all agree that Slayer, Metallica, and Megadeth are all Thrash pioneers. I don't think Mustaine realises how much better it'd be to have a good relationship with them.


i think it came to an end. he came to grips with everything with lars in SKOM

Eitri Is Berserk
02-03-2005, 08:41 PM
Dave Mustaine in my eyes is a good musician, but nothing more as a person. If he shows more of what he did after he hosted the Dimebag headbanger's ball than maybe I'll give him some more credit.

A 20 year fued is just ridiculous. I think we can all agree that Slayer, Metallica, and Megadeth are all Thrash pioneers. I don't think Mustaine realises how much better it'd be to have a good relationship with them.

Well.. Some people are just like that. Mustaine can't help that he's a dick sometimes. Or for 20 years.. Imagine being kicked out of Metallica yourself, you'de more than likely be pissed you got kicked out of a sucessful band..

Joe
02-03-2005, 08:42 PM
Very true.....Megadeth is my 3rd favourite band they can make just as good music as metallica...but he may be jealous of their popularity and their $$$$

your avatar kicks ***

Huber
02-03-2005, 08:42 PM
20 YEARS MAN! 20! I haven't even experienced that many years of existance and I know I'd probably forgive by now!

Joe
02-03-2005, 08:47 PM
20 YEARS MAN! 20! I haven't even experienced that many years of existance and I know I'd probably forgive by now!

But the pain he's gone through. He's just been number two all these years. He's been through 20 years of being the number two guy. He was the guitarist of the greatest band ever, and just effed himself up

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 08:49 PM
what's your rep now?
10, I'm climbin the charts baby!!!

Joe
02-03-2005, 08:50 PM
i was actually talkin to Jack, but here ya go. you shuold be up tooo 30? i think? i think you give 2% rep

Eitri Is Berserk
02-03-2005, 08:52 PM
20 YEARS MAN! 20! I haven't even experienced that many years of existance and I know I'd probably forgive by now!

Yeah hes kinda odd like that. I'm sure I'd forgive someone after 20 years.. But you gotta take into concideration what gocaps said about always being number 2..

Joe
02-03-2005, 08:54 PM
waaahoooo repping spree! guys on page 495 got some, now i can't rep for 24 hrs

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 08:55 PM
i was actually talkin to Jack, but here ya go. you shuold be up tooo 30? i think? i think you give 2% rep
I know you were talkin to Jack, but I thought I'd throw it in there anyway for a laugh. Btw, thanks man; you rule!!! :thumb: I'm up to 34 now, thanks to you.

MoX_KIll
02-03-2005, 08:58 PM
Does Mustaine get any of metallica's money for helping with some songs and such ?

Joe
02-03-2005, 08:59 PM
Does Mustaine get any of metallica's money for helping with some songs and such ?

I would definitely assume so. He did all of Kill 'Em All and a bit of RTL. Metallica would probably get sued if Mustaine wasn't being paid

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 08:59 PM
I want to see it, I hear they got a cheap shot on Mustaine in it though..

I don't understand the rivalry. I don't see why Dave is so sore, but I don't see why its a big deal in the first place either. I'd be pissed if I was kicked out of Metallica, but I wouldn't care like 20 years later, especially if I created Megadeth.
IMO, Mustaine can write some kick a$$ guitar riffs and solos, but I really don't like the way he sings, except on Countdown to Extinction. I like that album.

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:00 PM
IMO, Mustaine can write some kick a$$ guitar riffs and solos, but I really don't like the way he sings, except on Countdown to Extinction. I like that album.

I'm not a big Mustaine fan because of this 20 year fued, but I admit he is an abso****inlutely amazing guitarist

varsis
02-03-2005, 09:01 PM
the best way to find out what james is playing during solos is to buy the music books. when i was recording sanitarium myself i had no idea what to play during the solos. the book tells you what riffs to play when

get like the real album ones tho, don't get like "ledgedary guitar riffs: Metallica" or stuff like that

hmm il look into it, I have to wait tho till I go to the city next, which might be awhile, also, is there and good way to learn just any solo, easily..? I look at the tabs but alot of them get distorted and are hard to read...

ThrashMaster27
02-03-2005, 09:02 PM
Does Mustaine get any of metallica's money for helping with some songs and such ?

Yes, he got royalties for the songs he wrote.

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:03 PM
your avatar kicks ***
Yours ain't too shabby either.

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:04 PM
hmm il look into it, I have to wait tho till I go to the city next, which might be awhile, also, is there and good way to learn just any solo, easily..? I look at the tabs but alot of them get distorted and are hard to read...

What songs are you trying to learn? I have the MOP and RTL books if you want me to look them up. I won't be able to get back to you until tomorrow night (USA time) or Saturday however, they're at a band member's house

ThrashMaster27
02-03-2005, 09:06 PM
hmm il look into it, I have to wait tho till I go to the city next, which might be awhile, also, is there and good way to learn just any solo, easily..? I look at the tabs but alot of them get distorted and are hard to read...

Use powertabs, man. I find it to be the easiest way of learning solos.

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:06 PM
hmm il look into it, I have to wait tho till I go to the city next, which might be awhile, also, is there and good way to learn just any solo, easily..? I look at the tabs but alot of them get distorted and are hard to read...
What I do is I learn bits and pieces of the solos, then put them together, but you might wanna take someone else's advice first, as I'm not the best guitarist in here. ;)

thelittledrummerboy
02-03-2005, 09:06 PM
Does anyone else think that Jason Newsted is the best bass player metallica have had cause i do. It's just his stage presence

varsis
02-03-2005, 09:07 PM
heh, well il see what other post, I can play alot of stuff, i also play acustic, I just need to learn solo's then im set, i can make up my own stuff just off the top of my head but probably can never play it exactly agian lol

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:08 PM
Does anyone else think that Jason Newsted is the best bass player metallica have had cause i do. It's just his stage presence

No. He used a pick, so i don't call him the best. I think Rob is the best in skill and Cliff is just the original

ThrashMaster27
02-03-2005, 09:08 PM
Does anyone else think that Jason Newsted is the best bass player metallica have had cause i do. It's just his stage presence

He's very good. The stuff he did with Flotsam & Jetsam was awesome. I think his talents were wasted in Metallica.

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:08 PM
Does anyone else think that Jason Newsted is the best bass player metallica have had cause i do. It's just his stage presence
I've heard that he's the best on stage, but Cliff is the original Metallica, and Rob just blows everyone away in talent.

Eitri Is Berserk
02-03-2005, 09:09 PM
No. He used a pick, so i don't call him the best. I think Rob is the best in skill and Cliff is just the original

Until Rob writes something like Anesthesia, I'm going to have to disagree.

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:10 PM
Until Rob writes something like Anesthesia, I'm going to have to disagree.

Well Rob was a lot better this past tour on his soloing than jason was on Live Sh*t

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:10 PM
I hit 100 posts! Too bad it took me over 6 months.

varsis
02-03-2005, 09:11 PM
lol, iv been here for a day now and have 4 post with this lol

drum_player4life1
02-03-2005, 09:12 PM
Love Metallica's old stuff, but the new stuff really dissapointed me...



Alex

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:12 PM
Well Rob was a lot better this past tour on his soloing than jason was on Live Sh*t
Aaarrgghh! I wanna see them live soooo bad! I haven't yet, and I'm still pissed I missed them on Summer Sanitarium.

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:12 PM
I hit 100 posts! Too bad it took me over 6 months.

yea and like 30 today. just do that more often and you'll pass me soon

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:13 PM
Love Metallica's old stuff, but the new stuff really dissapointed me...



Alex

how original


Aaarrgghh! I wanna see them live soooo bad! I haven't yet, and I'm still pissed I missed them on Summer Sanitarium.

that sucks, they kick live

JH LU KH RT
02-03-2005, 09:13 PM
Well Rob was a lot better this past tour on his soloing than jason was on Live Sh*t

Yah im a lil to young to have seen cliff in concert but from the videos ive seen he just stands there and headbangs, which is fine cause he pwns.

But yeah i agree robs stuff that he plays like junglessence and those type of things are awesome. I also love his show the way he twrills around and gets himself and the croud really into it.

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:14 PM
Love Metallica's old stuff, but the new stuff really dissapointed me...



Alex
Agreed. Btw, who's Alex?

varsis
02-03-2005, 09:14 PM
okay how about we get back to metallica... lol not just talk about post this is a metallic thread...

MoX_KIll
02-03-2005, 09:15 PM
i was going to see them in november but the tickets sold out in 4 days and i couldent find some one to go with me...oh well they'll be back

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:16 PM
okay how about we get back to metallica... lol not just talk about post this is a metallic thread...

well see, this thread has been around for almost 500 pages.

so how about since your the noob and hasn't been around for the 500 pages of convo you come up with a metallica related topic to talk about

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:16 PM
Yah im a lil to young to have seen cliff in concert but from the videos ive seen he just stands there and headbangs, which is fine cause he pwns.

But yeah i agree robs stuff that he plays like junglessence and those type of things are awesome. I also love his show the way he twrills around and gets himself and the croud really into it.
And his whole crab walking deal, but there's only one thing I don't get about Rob. How the hell does he reach his bass? It's all the way down at his knees! :confused:

Eitri Is Berserk
02-03-2005, 09:17 PM
Well Rob was a lot better this past tour on his soloing than jason was on Live Sh*t

I like Live Sh*t. I havn't heard Rob play, so I can't say much about him.

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:17 PM
well see, this thread has been around for almost 500 pages.

so how about since your the noob and hasn't been around for the 500 pages of convo you come up with a metallica related topic to talk about
Nicely done. :thumb:

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:18 PM
yay, 12402th post in metallica thread

watch rob footage

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:19 PM
And his whole crab walking deal, but there's only one thing I don't get about Rob. How the hell does he reach his bass? It's all the way down at his knees! :confused:

wait until he starts slap bass with both hands

Joe
02-03-2005, 09:19 PM
goodnight! long live 'tallica!

1800!

metallicamaniac16
02-03-2005, 09:21 PM
Anyone else here like Bleeding Me? When I'm done listening to it, I think dang, that was 8 min? The solos are great too, not too much wah, like in other stuff Hammett wrote around this time.

MoX_KIll
02-03-2005, 09:24 PM
i havent seen/heard live sh!T but i want too

JH LU KH RT
02-03-2005, 09:26 PM
i havent seen/heard live sh!T but i want too

Live sh1t is awesome, but if you are into the old stuff get cliff em all, that dvd is amazing.

MoX_KIll
02-03-2005, 09:30 PM
i want Cliff em all .. But I cant find it anywhere

Freezing Moon
02-03-2005, 09:46 PM
I haven't seen live sh*t, but I havne't listened to Metallica as much lately either. I think I'm going to try to track down a copy and watch it, since everyone seems to think it's sweet.

Master Of Nebulah Frost
02-03-2005, 10:18 PM
It's a sweet DVD more because of the Seattle 2-day show,...well at least for me. '...And Justice For All' is such a great, under-rated album.

pollack_drummer
02-03-2005, 10:37 PM
Does anyone know an allaround easy song to play by metallica for a band starting out besides for whom the bell tolls ?
:wave:

Joe
02-03-2005, 10:56 PM
Does anyone know an allaround easy song to play by metallica for a band starting out besides for whom the bell tolls ?
:wave:

enter sandman would be fairly easy. so would most things off the black album

i havent seen/heard live sh!T but i want too

get it. i'm dead serious. go on amazon.com right now and buy it

Joe
02-03-2005, 10:56 PM
i want Cliff em all .. But I cant find it anywhere

yea i've been looking for that. all i've seen are S&M and Live Sh*T. I want Cliff Em All

Po0sH
02-03-2005, 11:08 PM
Cliff em all is cool, but after a few times around, i got bored, maybe it was the bad quality videos, since they weren't filmed amazingly.

Freezing Moon
02-03-2005, 11:13 PM
I d/led Cliff 'em All off of Bit torrent, I'd like to buy it now because its pretty good.

metal_milita
02-03-2005, 11:13 PM
Hey gocap99 got stars! good for you man, you've earned it. Lol I'm the first one that gave you your points so smooth.

Cliff 'Em All isn't GREAT although it is good. Live **** is just amazing to me, and I'm watching SKOM so I'll comment on it after I know what I'm talking about :D

acefrehleyjendell
02-04-2005, 12:15 AM
What do you guys think of Blackened?
Personally it is fast becoming my favourite Metallica song.

I got AJFA once again, my FIFTH copy since 1993.

I also dowloaded a video of the Reload tour which i was at in Sydney.
You can see me for about 5 seconds six times roughly when they play
One and Battery. I think i was about 11.

ArcLite
02-04-2005, 12:17 AM
Heh, I'm only on my 2nd copy of AJFA. Blackened, also one of my favorite Metallica songs. Seems to me like one of their more driving and powerful songs.

blue3
02-04-2005, 12:22 AM
I like One and Harvester of Sorrowfrom that AJFA CD..

acefrehleyjendell
02-04-2005, 12:33 AM
Heh, I'm only on my 2nd copy of AJFA. Blackened, also one of my favorite Metallica songs. Seems to me like one of their more driving and powerful songs.

Yeah and i think the intro is probably the best peice of music ever written.
It's so emotinal and when it kicks in it just goes balls to the wall.

I reckon the chorus is their best also, except for puppetts of course.

Do they still play Blackened live?

If so i hope they don't butcher it like they have with One.

I've only heard it from my video and S&M live. But they don't even
play it thrashy in the thrashy parts, which to me is what Metallica were
all about.

Once again, Blackened is so underrated. Top Song.

ArcLite
02-04-2005, 12:38 AM
Blackened is so underrated.

Not really chief. Most fans agree its one of their best.

opeth_oasis
02-04-2005, 12:42 AM
everything before the black album and the black album is absolute gold, not a fan of the newer stuff but i wouldnt say it was crap

acefrehleyjendell
02-04-2005, 12:45 AM
Not really chief. Most fans agree its one of their best.

Yeah i know, but i am so in love with it that i'm praising it everywhere. :thumb:

metal_milita
02-04-2005, 12:51 AM
everything before the black album and the black album is absolute gold, not a fan of the newer stuff but i wouldnt say it was crap
thats a good summary

W.M.A
02-04-2005, 06:32 AM
everything before the black album and the black album is absolute gold, not a fan of the newer stuff but i wouldnt say it was crap

i think load wouldve been a classic id theyd just combined it with reload and ditched all the b-grade filler that both r riddled with. eg. cure, poor twisted me, fixxer

munky_magik
02-04-2005, 06:35 AM
i think load wouldve been a classic id theyd just combined it with reload and ditched all the b-grade filler that both r riddled with. eg. cure, poor twisted me, fixxer
Reload is compiled from the songs that the band felt weren't good enough to be on Load.

EMILY
02-04-2005, 10:28 AM
What Do You Think Is Best:
King Nothing
Vs
Nothing Else Matters

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 10:31 AM
Reload is compiled from the songs that the band felt weren't good enough to be on Load.

i thought fuel, memory remains and unforgiven 2 were great songs, but im nbot that fond of the rest of re-load

munky_magik
02-04-2005, 10:35 AM
i thought fuel, memory remains and unforgiven 2 were great songs, but im nbot that fond of the rest of re-load
Either the band didn't think they were that good, or they decided to save some strong songs for ReLoad.

And I would pick King Nothing over NEM. I hate that song. It's a mediocre ballad but for some reason everyone believes to to be the best.

ReturnToRock
02-04-2005, 10:44 AM
good idea for a topic. things need organizing.

my view on metallica is that they should become a strictly live band. i know sometimes bands need a little different twist and that it must suck to have to sing and play «creeping death» in every show for over 20 years now. but nothing can excuse what they did with «st anger», which i can only call «selling out». nobody needs metallica to sound like Korn.
i am an open minded guy and i respect bands who change their sound, like slayer did with their last album, but metallica went a tad too far. i wouldn't suggest they call it a day because they're still in good health on stage, but they could become a strictly live band like the Stooges or the Doors are now.

these are my two cents, flame at will. and remember....«RTL» lives on.

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 10:44 AM
king nothing is a brilliant song, dont get me wrong nothing else matters is good but it just gets kind of boring after awhile

also Live **** is brilliant, if your a metallica fan you should get it. I think it's a load (get it 'load'?) better than cunning stunts :thumb:

ReturnToRock
02-04-2005, 10:46 AM
oh yeah - and speak no evil of the greatest ballad ever - «nothing else matters»!!!
i also love «low man's lyric» from ReLoad, but that one is just the best (not considering Fade to Black because it's not a «real» ballad, and the same goes for «The Thing...» and «Sanitarium» )

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 10:48 AM
good idea for a topic. things need organizing.

my view on metallica is that they should become a strictly live band. i know sometimes bands need a little different twist and that it must suck to have to sing and play «creeping death» in every show for over 20 years now. but nothing can excuse what they did with «st anger», which i can only call «selling out». nobody needs metallica to sound like Korn.
i am an open minded guy and i respect bands who change their sound, like slayer did with their last album, but metallica went a tad too far. i wouldn't suggest they call it a day because they're still in good health on stage, but they could become a strictly live band like the Stooges or the Doors are now.

these are my two cents, flame at will. and remember....«RTL» lives on.

for gods sake leave st anger alone! i know its your opinion and i respect that, but comments like this make is argument which just get annoying for everyone

ReturnToRock
02-04-2005, 10:50 AM
Does anyone know an allaround easy song to play by metallica for a band starting out besides for whom the bell tolls ?
:wave:


creeping death.

munky_magik
02-04-2005, 10:51 AM
good idea for a topic. things need organizing.

my view on metallica is that they should become a strictly live band. i know sometimes bands need a little different twist and that it must suck to have to sing and play «creeping death» in every show for over 20 years now. but nothing can excuse what they did with «st anger», which i can only call «selling out». nobody needs metallica to sound like Korn.
i am an open minded guy and i respect bands who change their sound, like slayer did with their last album, but metallica went a tad too far. i wouldn't suggest they call it a day because they're still in good health on stage, but they could become a strictly live band like the Stooges or the Doors are now.

these are my two cents, flame at will. and remember....«RTL» lives on.

You can't call it selling out because you don't have a single clue as to what thier motivations were behind changing their sound. ok?
Try listening to the album somtime, it sounds nothing like Korn.
You're an open minded guy who thinks they should become a live band because you don't like the way they changed their sound? :rolleyes:

hellraiser123
02-04-2005, 10:52 AM
creeping death.

yeh, if you can play the over ridiculously hard solo,

id say puppets

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 10:55 AM
Does anyone know an allaround easy song to play by metallica for a band starting out besides for whom the bell tolls ?
:wave:

sad but true and wherever i may roam would be my suggestions :thumb:

ReturnToRock
02-04-2005, 10:59 AM
munky - to me st anger sound nu-metallish in some parts, but i'm shutting up now :p
creeping death has an easy bassline, i forgot about the guitar part of it...sorry.
try nothnig else matters or jump in the fire, then

munky_magik
02-04-2005, 11:01 AM
munky - to me st anger sound nu-metallish in some parts, but i'm shutting up now :p


Define nu-metallish.

hellraiser123
02-04-2005, 11:04 AM
nu-metallish.....crap

ReturnToRock
02-04-2005, 11:04 AM
well, to me they sound like a bunch of beginner kids in a garage trying to define their sound, which they shouldn't by now.

nu-metallish as in «influenced by the new metalcore scene»

munky_magik
02-04-2005, 11:06 AM
nu-metallish.....crap
*sigh*
Just because don't like it doesn't mean that it is crap. It just means that you don't like it.
I really wish people would stop trying to dictate their ****ing music tastes to the world.

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 11:07 AM
well if thats true it would take a bunch of very talanted kids to make stuff like that

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 11:08 AM
nu-metallish.....crap

there is no such thing as crap music, it is just not to your taste

hellraiser123
02-04-2005, 11:09 AM
*sigh*
Just because don't like it doesn't mean that it is crap. It just means that you don't like it.
I really wish people would stop trying to dictate their ****ing music tastes to the world.

Hmm...nice one

*sigh*

DBoons Ghost
02-04-2005, 11:15 AM
Hmm...nice one

*sigh*

It's true though.

You might sigh all you want, but as much as I despise Metallica, it would be more prudent for you to say "it's not my cup of tea" as opposed to saying they suck. That's like a 3 year old temper tantrum. If so many other people still dig it, and they still sell millions of records, clearly, they don't suck. You just don't dig em anymore.

The same applies to every band out there you don't like. You don't like em. But your authority to say such things in a blanket manner is not higher than anyone else. Your ears hear crap, other's hear awesomeness. Your opinion is just that, an opinion. Old saying.. "opinions are like assholes, everyones got em".

So you see? You can think it sucks, but it won't. It just means you don't like it anymore. If you come off with that attitude, where you think everyone you don't like sucks, you won't last long here.

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 11:16 AM
Hmm...nice one

*sigh*

you know i really cant tell if you were being sarcastic :lol:

*is stupid and knows it* :upset:

hellraiser123
02-04-2005, 11:21 AM
It's true though.

You might sigh all you want, but as much as I despise Metallica, it would be more prudent for you to say "it's not my cup of tea" as opposed to saying they suck. That's like a 3 year old temper tantrum. If so many other people still dig it, and they still sell millions of records, clearly, they don't suck. You just don't dig em anymore.

The same applies to every band out there you don't like. You don't like em. But your authority to say such things in a blanket manner is not higher than anyone else. Your ears hear crap, other's hear awesomeness. Your opinion is just that, an opinion. Old saying.. "opinions are like assholes, everyones got em".

So you see? You can think it sucks, but it won't. It just means you don't like it anymore. If you come off with that attitude, where you think
everyone you don't like sucks, you won't last long here.

Yeh that was a nice speech, metallica are my fav band, my opinion is just thatthe music out today known as 'nu-metal' has absolutly no originality to it, all the riffs and licks are taken, or stolen from previous successful bands. Yeh you might dig back at me for this, but i just dont believe that todays music is unique at all...

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 11:25 AM
It's true though.

You might sigh all you want, but as much as I despise Metallica, it would be more prudent for you to say "it's not my cup of tea" as opposed to saying they suck. That's like a 3 year old temper tantrum. If so many other people still dig it, and they still sell millions of records, clearly, they don't suck. You just don't dig em anymore.

The same applies to every band out there you don't like. You don't like em. But your authority to say such things in a blanket manner is not higher than anyone else. Your ears hear crap, other's hear awesomeness. Your opinion is just that, an opinion. Old saying.. "opinions are like assholes, everyones got em".

So you see? You can think it sucks, but it won't. It just means you don't like it anymore. If you come off with that attitude, where you think everyone you don't like sucks, you won't last long here.

you outstaged what i said :upset:

munky_magik
02-04-2005, 11:33 AM
you outstaged what i said :upset:
Heh, don't feel bad. Dboon has a lot more experience at this.

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 11:37 AM
fair enough, i'll try not to.


i got the 'justice' guitar book a couple of weeks ago, for a sequencing thing that im doing for music tech, harvester of sorrow sounds pretty good played with violins and other orchestral instruments (that is until it gets to the parts with heavy distortion).

just thought i would share that with everyone

Bartender
02-04-2005, 11:39 AM
Apocalyptica manage the whole thing pretty well, I thought.

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 11:58 AM
yeah the album of metallica covers they did was brilliant

cant really see why they did 'sad but true' it doesnt have the brilliant sound that the others do...then again on one of their other cds the had a cover of fight 'fire with fire' so...


also apocalyptica had proper instruments and are competant musicians i was doing it on cubasis vst (think thats it), and the midi sounds arent brilliant on it

disturbedrocker4868
02-04-2005, 12:07 PM
dude who saw the metallica movie and does anyone own it yet tell me if its good or not ive seen the one in theater but is it better on dvd with the extras or what?

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 12:12 PM
i havnt seen it but i really want it, maybe i'll buy it from amazon tonight

Anubis_1
02-04-2005, 12:26 PM
amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)
One of my Favorites has always been creeping death.

Anubis_1
02-04-2005, 12:30 PM
I think its this next album (after st. anger) and they'll call it a day. It will prolly be somehting epic like black album, possible like reload....but i doubt it will go back tothe old days...i thin metallica want to put those days behind if i'm not mistaken.
I dont think James can ever sing like he did in the 80's because his voice has became deeper than then. You can start to hear the change in And Justice For ALL.. :) Its Sad but True......

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 12:46 PM
I dont think James can ever sing like he did in the 80's because his voice has became deeper than then. You can start to hear the change in And Justice For ALL.. :) Its Sad but True......

i think he sounded best during the 'justice' period, but now he could never sing something like hit the lights the way he used to, which is quite sad really

also that was a bad joke, but you can have rep for the attempt :thumb:

vashts80
02-04-2005, 02:51 PM
IMO, James's best vocal period was during the Justice and Black album period...it started to get deeper after that. S&M is prolly the peak of him being able to hold the notes etc..like on St. Anger, some places seem like his voice is about to break..on S&M, it didn't really sound like that.

bassdudeok
02-04-2005, 04:49 PM
when do metallica start new album is bob rock producing it

Mister_Che
02-04-2005, 04:57 PM
They're already recording it.

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 04:57 PM
i've heard that they are going into the studio at the start of summer, but this could be bull ****

Bob Rock probably will produce it

bassdudeok
02-04-2005, 04:59 PM
They're already recording it.


do when it could be out

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 05:02 PM
They're already recording it.

hmm so what i said was bull **** :lol:

they probably won't be done for sometime yet...when did they star? if it's less than 6 months they will be on for quite a while

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 05:03 PM
If they are recording now it'll be out around October maybe September

Mister_Che
02-04-2005, 05:07 PM
Recording began this year I believe. They'll tour before they release it though.

bassdudeok
02-04-2005, 05:10 PM
Recording began this year I believe. They'll tour before they release it though.

around december than

shadow_stalker
02-04-2005, 05:14 PM
the release date depends on weather they had material going into the studio or not, if they don't then they will be starting from scratch but if they have the material then they just have to record it and then its done

willis2441
02-04-2005, 05:16 PM
i think that they will comeback with another load-type album.

bassdudeok
02-04-2005, 05:19 PM
i think that they will comeback with another load-type album.

i hope its a mix of load and justice

JACKROXYOU
02-04-2005, 06:45 PM
i hope its good to say the least

but as long as they come to houston on their tour ill be happy

Pelaox
02-04-2005, 07:05 PM
best songs: Seek N' Destroy, Four horseman, ride the lightning, for whom the bell tolls, dade to black, the call of ktulu,batter, the thing that should not be, MASTER OF PUPPETS; SANITARIUM; ORION,enter sandman, sad but true, unforgiven, nothing else matters, of wolf and men, and justice for all, one, king nothing, hero of the day, fuel, the memory remains, st anger, frantic.

THATS ALL :D

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 08:02 PM
best songs: Seek N' Destroy, Four horseman, ride the lightning, for whom the bell tolls, dade to black, the call of ktulu,batter, the thing that should not be, MASTER OF PUPPETS; SANITARIUM; ORION,enter sandman, sad but true, unforgiven, nothing else matters, of wolf and men, and justice for all, one, king nothing, hero of the day, fuel, the memory remains, st anger, frantic.

THATS ALL :D

thats it? :confused: there's alot of others you missed that should be up there

guitarcreep13
02-04-2005, 08:14 PM
(Sorry if i double post, but i have 2 ideas i must mention that wont make sense in the same post)

Question: "Do you play a bass guitar? Do you like Master of Puppets? Would you like to have the Master of Puppets Sheet Music? But no... you cant afford it can you? I see, no money huh. Well come to
http://alufis35.uv.es/~jose/transcripciones/metallica/metallica.html
where some dumbass actually post his book up." :naughty:
I'm not kidding friends, free MoP sheet music at this website! :wave:

guitarcreep13
02-04-2005, 08:18 PM
I have a real question now. (For gtr players and bass) the verse in mop on gtr in eight notes right? and the song has a tempo of 312, but i saw some jackass say the notes are 1/16 and the tempo is in the 100s, but in s&m, lars does the 312 tempo. What is it?

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 08:24 PM
This thread is dead so i decided to do this:

Name all the Metallica albums and name 2 of your favourite songs and then list your least favourite songs. Put a "+" for the songs u like and a"-"for the dislikes...

Kill em all
+Hit the Lights
+The four Horseman
-Seek and Destroy
-Phantom Lord

Ride the Lightning
+Ride the Lightning
+For whom the bells toll
-Traped Under Ice
-Escape

Master of Puppets
+Battery
+Disposable Heroes
-The thing that should not be
-Welcome Home (Sanitarium)

...And Justice For All
+shortest straw
+Blackend
-Dryers Eve
-Frayed Ends Of Sanity

Metallica
+Enter Sandman
+Wherever I May Roam
-The God That Failed
-The Struggle Within

Load
+Hero of the Day
+King Nothing
-Mama said
-Ronnie

Reload
+Fuel
+The memory Remains
-Fixxer
-Prince charming

St.Anger
+Some Kind of Monster
+Frantic
-st.Anger
-My world

JH LU KH RT
02-04-2005, 08:29 PM
Kill Em All
+ Hit The Lights
+ The Four Horsemen
- Motorbreath
- Phantom Lord

Ride The Lightning
+ Fade To Black
+ Creeping Death
- Escape
- For Whom the Bell Tolls

Master of Puppets
+ Master of Puppets
+ Orion
- Lepper Messiah
- The Thing That Should not be

...And Justice For All
+ And justice for all
+ One
- Harvester of Sorrow
- Shortest Straw

Those are the only cds i have listened to enough to do that for. But i love all those songs those are just what i love more.

guitarcreep13
02-04-2005, 08:33 PM
...thanks.........thanks a lot

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 08:41 PM
no problem

Epicurus
02-04-2005, 08:42 PM
i fink kerk iz reelli pwnd bi petuccri

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 08:45 PM
ok?

JH LU KH RT
02-04-2005, 08:45 PM
^^^i think u should never post in the metallica thread again if u are just gonna suck and bash hammet

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 08:53 PM
or cant type in english

vashts80
02-04-2005, 09:14 PM
Guys, chill the **** out. It was sarcasm.

Kill "Em All
+ Whiplash
+ Motorbreath
- Four Horsemen
- Hit the Lights

Ride the Lightning
+ Fade to Black
+ For Whom the Bell Tolls
- Trapped Under Ice
- Escape

Master of Puppets
+ Master of Puppets
+ Orion
- Battery
- Disposable Heroes

...And Justice For All
+ Blackened
+ ...And Justice For All
- Shortest Straw
- Frayed Ends of Sanity

Metallica
+ My Friend of Misery
+ Unforgiven
- Nothing Else Matters
- Enter Sandman

Load
+ Bleeding Me
+ Outlaw Torn (more-so S&M than Load)
- Until It Sleeps
- Poor Twisted Me

ReLoad
+ Devil's Dance
+ Fixxxer
- Unforgiven II
- Fuel

St. Anger
+ Sweet Amber
+ Some Kind of Monster
- Invisible Kid
- My World

Edit: And for the record, I don't think Hammett is such a good guitar player compared to Petrucci, Gilmour, or Murray, or hell, even Hetfield.

JACKROXYOU
02-04-2005, 09:22 PM
it will pick back up when the album is released

Kill em all
+seek & destroy
+4 horsemen
-motor breath
-Phantom Lord

Ride the Lightning
+Call to Ktulu
+For whom the bells toll
-Traped Under Ice
-Escape

Master of Puppets
+Welcome Home
+Disposable Heroes
-The thing that should not be
-Damage inc.

...And Justice For All
+shortest straw
+one
-Frayed Ends Of Sanity
-dyers eve

Metallica
+N.E.M.
+Wherever I May Roam
-The God That Failed
-The Struggle Within

Load
+King Nothing
-Mama said
-Ronnie

Reload
-Fuel
-The memory Remains
-Fixxer
-Prince charming

--St.Anger

guitarcreep13
02-04-2005, 09:30 PM
500 Pages!

Huber
02-04-2005, 09:55 PM
Kill Em' All
+Seek and Destroy
+Four Horsemen
-Hit the Lights
-Phantom Lord

Ride the Lightning
+Trapped Under Ice
+Creeping Death
-Fight Fire With Fire
-Escape

Master of Puppets
+Leper Messiah
+Battery
-Damage, Inc.
-Thing That Should Not Be

...And Justice For All
+Blackened
+Dyer's Eve
-Harvester Of Sorrow
-Shortest Straw

Black Album
+Wherever I May Roam
+Holier Than Thou
-Nothing Else Matters
-My Friend of Misery

Load
+Aint My Bitch
+Hero Of The Day
-Outlaw Torn
-Thorn Within

Reload
+Fuel
+Memory Remains
-Bad Seed
-Better Than You

Garage Inc.
+Last Caress/Green Hell
+Stone Cold Crazy
-It's Electric
-Turn the Page

S&M
+Battery
+Master of Puppets
-Of Wolf And Man
-Outlaw Torn

St. Anger
+Some Kind of Monster
+Sweet Amber
-Invisible Kid
-Unnamed Feeling

willis2441
02-04-2005, 10:45 PM
heres my list
kill em all
+hit the lights
+the four horsemen
-seek and destroy
-phantom lord

ride the lighnting
+fight fire with fire
+creeping death
-escape
-trapped under ice

master of puppets
+orion
+master of puppets
- -the thing that should not be
-leper messiah

...and justice for all
+one
+dyers eve
-the frayed ends of sanity
-blackened

metallica
+sad but true
+the unforgiven
-holier than thou
-of wolf and man

load
+king nothing
+until it sleeps(s&m version better)
-aint my bitch
-2x4

reload
+fixxxer
+unforgiven ll
-fuel
-devils dance

st anger
+some kind of monster
+st anger(after you listen to its a couple of 100 times you will like it)
-dirty window
-my world

metallicamaniac16
02-04-2005, 10:47 PM
Kill 'em all
+ Horsemen
+ Motorbreath
- No Remorse
- Metal Militia

RTL
+ Fade to Black (favorite song, period)
+ RTL
- Escape
- For Whom the Bell Tolls

MOP
+ all of 'em

AJFA
+ Frayed Ends of Sanity
+ Dyers Eve
- Shortest Straw
- Harvester of Sorrow (I like this song, but havent had the urge to listen to it lately)

Black Album
+ Through the Never
+ Sad But True
- Don't Tread On Me
- Struggle Within

Live Sh*t
+ Creeping Death
+ Sad but True
- MOP (Why the f*ck did they cut out half the song?!?!?!)
- For Whom the Bell Tolls

Load (I haven't listened to the whole cd yet)
+ King Nothing
+ Bleeding Me
- Cure
- Poor Twisted Me

Reload
+ Low Man's Lyric
+ Carpe Diem Baby
- Slither
- Where the Wild Things Are

S&M
+ MOP
+ One
- Devil's Dance
- Outlaw Torn

Thats all the albums I got.

metallicamaniac16
02-04-2005, 10:52 PM
How come no one put Live Sh*t in their lists? ^^

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 10:59 PM
I Never heard anything from live ****

S&M
+ Battery
+One
-Outlaw Torn
-Devils Dance

Some kind of monster
+Four horsemen
+Damage inc
-Some kind of monster
-Leper Messiah

Joe
02-04-2005, 11:00 PM
i fink kerk iz reelli pwnd bi petuccri

you talk like your five. grow up.

How come no one put Live Sh*t in their lists? ^^

i will, happy?

Kill 'em all
+ Horsemen
+ Seek and Destrpy
there aren't any i don't like

RTL
+ Fade to Black (favorite song, period)--metallicamaniac16 said that earlier. i agree. rep + to you
+ Ride the Lightning
- Fight Fire with Fire
- For Whom the Bell Tolls

MOP
+ MOP
+ Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
-Leper Messiah
-Thing That Should Not Be

AJFA
+ One
+ ...AJFA


Black Album
+ Holier than Thou
+ Unforgiven
- Don't Tread On Me
- Through the Never

Live Sh*t
+ Fade to Black
+ Seek and Destroy (best version of the song, period)
- MOP (Why the f*ck did they cut out half the song?!?!?!) more rep to metallicamaniac16
- Through the Never

S&M
+whole thing
-needed fade to black

MoX_KIll
02-04-2005, 11:07 PM
What about Some kind of Monster ? Nobody did that

Joe
02-04-2005, 11:09 PM
What about Some kind of Monster ? Nobody did that

i don't have it. the ones that i have are the only ones i've listed. although i could probably put +Fuel, +Unforgiven 2, +Whiskey in the Jar, etc

Huber
02-04-2005, 11:10 PM
Oh yeah

I completely forgot about the SKOM EP. It's a good one too.

Joe
02-04-2005, 11:25 PM
Who Posted?
Total Posts: 12,495
User Name Posts
Squirrel 565
Burdcheese 432
Superpeer 398
JACKROXYOU 385
gocaps99 365

so where's jack? i was down by like 60 yesterday

KILO5203
02-04-2005, 11:28 PM
[/U]Kill Em All
+Seek and Destroy
+4 Horsemen. pretty much all of them except,
-Phantom Lord

RTL
+Fade to Black
+For Whom The Bell Tolls
-Trapped Under Ice

[U]MOP
+all

AJFA
+dyers eve
+eye of the beholder
-shortest straw
-frayed ends of sanity

Black
+My Friend Of Misery
+The God That Failed
-The Struggle Within
-Enter Sandman (heard it way too many times)

Load
+Bleeding Me
+King Nothing
-Mama Said
-Ronnie

Reload
+Carpe Diem Baby
+Unforgiven II
-Fuel
-Slither

St. Anger
+The Unnamed Feeling
+Dirty Window
-Invisible Kid
-Shoot Me Again

Joe
02-04-2005, 11:31 PM
[/U]Kill Em All
+Seek and Destroy
+4 Horsemen. pretty much all of them except,
-Phantom Lord

RTL
+Fade to Black
+For Whom The Bell Tolls
-Trapped Under Ice

[U]MOP
+all

AJFA
+dyers eve
+eye of the beholder
-shortest straw
-frayed ends of sanity

Black
+My Friend Of Misery
+The God That Failed
-The Struggle Within
-Enter Sandman (heard it way too many times)

Load
+Bleeding Me
+King Nothing
-Mama Said
-Ronnie

Reload
+Carpe Diem Baby
+Unforgiven II
-Fuel
-Slither

St. Anger
+The Unnamed Feeling
+Dirty Window
-Invisible Kid
-Shoot Me Again

it looks as if someone had a bit of underlining trouble. highlight what you want underlined then click underline

Joe
02-04-2005, 11:33 PM
Guys, chill the **** out. It was sarcasm.
Edit: And for the record, I don't think Hammett is such a good guitar player compared to Petrucci, Gilmour, or Murray, or hell, even Hetfield.

1) you don't need to underline ****
2) yes petrucci is currently the fastest guitarist, no doubt. but don't you think petrucci had some influences
3) hetfield's solos are fairly weak compared to hammett's. hammett is a lead guitarist, not a rhythm

KILO5203
02-04-2005, 11:34 PM
it looks as if someone had a bit of underlining trouble. highlight what you want underlined then click underline
yeah i never tryed underlining before. thanks though

Joe
02-04-2005, 11:42 PM
no prob

so back to the listing of favs on albums

2 "+" songs and 2 "-" songs for each album

Freezing Moon
02-04-2005, 11:50 PM
Kill 'em All
+ Jump in the Fire
+ Four Horsemen
- Phantom Lord
- No Remorse

Ride the Lightning
+ Creeping Death
+ Call of Ktulu
- Trapped Under Ice
- Escape

Master of Puppets
+ Master of Puppets
+ Battery
- Thing That Should Not Be
- Disposable Heroes

...And Justice For All
+ Blackened
+ Dyer's Eve
- ...And Justice For All
- Eye of the Beholder

Didn't really like much after that.

Joe
02-04-2005, 11:52 PM
- Disposable Heroes


wow really?!?! i thought everyone liked that song

Freezing Moon
02-05-2005, 12:02 AM
I think almost everyone does. I'm not a heavy Metallica listener, just casual, but I used to listen non-stop. That song just never stuck out for me. I was having trouble thinking of a minus, and that was the first thing that came to mind.

Joe
02-05-2005, 12:16 AM
I think almost everyone does. I'm not a heavy Metallica listener, just casual, but I used to listen non-stop. That song just never stuck out for me. I was having trouble thinking of a minus, and that was the first thing that came to mind.

It does get pretty old, but I really think it's awesome. I first liked Metallica for the lighter stuff like Fade to Black but then when i grew onto the heavier stuff I liked Disposable Heros

Freezing Moon
02-05-2005, 12:21 AM
It does get pretty old, but I really think it's awesome. I first liked Metallica for the lighter stuff like Fade to Black but then when i grew onto the heavier stuff I liked Disposable Heros

I definitly over-listened to that album back when I was a HUGE fan. I started out with Ride the Lightning, and then bought the rest of their CD's up to the Black Album in one go. I used to listen to the whole MoP CD on the way to school, so I've definitly given that song a fair chance. I guess I'm either just sick of it, or over it.

Joe
02-05-2005, 12:21 AM
ok i'm tired, goodnight metallica fans

Joe
02-05-2005, 12:22 AM
I definitly over-listened to that album back when I was a HUGE fan. I started out with Ride the Lightning, and then bought the rest of their CD's up to the Black Album in one go. I used to listen to the whole MoP CD on the way to school, so I've definitly given that song a fair chance. I guess I'm either just sick of it, or over it.

agreed. there are some songs that just get old. i really like almost every song and don't get sick of them (by every i mean 1981-1991) the only one i got sick of was Enter Sandman

ok everyone, now goodnight :wave:

Freezing Moon
02-05-2005, 12:26 AM
agreed. there are some songs that just get old. i really like almost every song and don't get sick of them (by every i mean 1981-1991) the only one i got sick of was Enter Sandman

ok everyone, now goodnight :wave:

:wave: 'night.

Yeah, I don't mind the Black Album, but I am definitly sick of Enter Sandman. I just don't listen to that CD as much because I have lots of stuff I don't listen to nearly often enough that I would rather listen to.

ibanezplaya
02-05-2005, 01:10 AM
aahh well even if metalllica dieds there legend lives on
but if they make a new ablum like the olds it would be great cause all of the music is starting to go back taht way anyways

Chu
02-05-2005, 03:36 AM
You all hate the best **** songs.
Not one song from the first 3 albums do I ever skip if it's playing.
Every single song is amazing.