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^Dream~Theater^
01-29-2005, 04:12 PM
Of course it is, but I didn't compare it to anything else now did I? Why when someone says a good song is good that someone has to say "well this is better."
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 04:13 PM
cause i can
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 04:19 PM
i cant believe that 2x4 got #25 in Guitar Worlds worst solos
that solo gives me chills
oh and i was watching the South Park Movie and i love the part where Metallica plays while kenny goes to hell
That song is one that really accents James voice
btoto
01-29-2005, 04:19 PM
Oh guys stop that :upset:
Here are the best from Load..........IMO:
1. Ain't My B*tch
2. Until It Sleeps
3. Mama Said
4. King Nothing
5. THT Jack Built
6. The Outlaw Thorn
7. Hero Of The Day
Well, almost whole album is great :thumb:
led_zep_luvr
01-29-2005, 04:21 PM
I just bought Load 2 hours ago. After listening to it I can say that it was worth it. I loved it more than Black album.
From the songs I haven't heard before(from Load), The House That Jack Built, 2 x 4 and The Outlaw Thorn are just great.
Three more CDs to complete my 'tallica collection:
Garage. Inc, Reload and S&M :p
wow! you are lucky i still need alot more but i would suggest to get s&m next
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 04:22 PM
Oh guys stop that :upset:
Here are the best from Load..........IMO:
1. Ain't My B*tch
2. Until It Sleeps
3. Mama Said
4. King Nothing
5. THT Jack Built
6. The Outlaw Thorn
7. Hero Of The Day
Well, almost whole album is great :thumb:
Yeah i agree except i'd put Bleeding Me at the top
And yes Load is an awesome album
led_zep_luvr
01-29-2005, 04:22 PM
cause i can
:lol: rep+
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 04:30 PM
Oh guys stop that :upset:
Here are the best from Load..........IMO:
1. Ain't My B*tch
2. Until It Sleeps
3. Mama Said
4. King Nothing
5. THT Jack Built
6. The Outlaw Thorn
7. Hero Of The Day
Well, almost whole album is great :thumb:
mama said is kinda high
btoto
01-29-2005, 04:33 PM
wow! you are lucky i still need alot more but i would suggest to get s&m next
I don't know, I really want Garage Inc next but it's 2 CD's so it costs more.
Today I wanted to get Peace Sells by 'deth but I thought I'd just complete my 'tallica collection and then move into Megadeth and Maiden :)
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 04:34 PM
s&m is better
and its 2 cd's too
garage inc isnt as good either
led_zep_luvr
01-29-2005, 04:39 PM
I don't know, I really want Garage Inc next but it's 2 CD's so it costs more.
Today I wanted to get Peace Sells by 'deth but I thought I'd just complete my 'tallica collection and then move into Megadeth and Maiden :)
lol its funny you mention that cuz the same thing happens to me when i shop for music, i am always tempted to finish my zeppelin,sabbath, AC/DC collection etc. but i want to get all of metallaica's stuff first
btoto
01-29-2005, 04:40 PM
Yeah i agree except i'd put Bleeding Me at the top
And yes Load is an awesome album
Yes it is :thumb:
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I love Mama Said. It's one the first 'tallica songs heard (in 1998 I guess) and one the first songs I learned to play on guitar.
I don't really like S&M. I liked only The Thing That Shouldn't Be, Nothing Else Matters, Hero Of The Day and The Memory Remains (although I hate that song with Marianne)
So, guess I'll leave it to the end :thumb:
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 04:42 PM
well in that case
but mama said would not be on the top of most, way to country
btoto
01-29-2005, 04:47 PM
man, country is OK
Oh, anyway. Who saw James' new signature guitar???? I didn't really like it.
You can find it (article, photo) in encymet last news
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 04:49 PM
the truckster?
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 05:05 PM
what kind of guitar is it?
btoto
01-29-2005, 05:14 PM
Here:
http://www.encycmet.com/
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 05:18 PM
i knew it was the truckster
New Hetfield signature guitar
The Truckster is the fifth Hetfield Signature Series model to carry his name since James and ESP joined forces in 1991. This latest model is manufactured to the exact specifications of James’ Truckster, a modified ESP Eclipse-style stage guitar used on the St. Anger tour. It features a multi-layered finish strategically sanded through and fully distressed to simulate the original.
ESP Trucker features:
set-neck construction; 24.75” scale; mahogany body; 3-piece mahogany neck; rosewood fingerboard; flag inlays w/ESP at 12th fret; EMG 81/60 active pickups; 2 volume & 1 tone control w/2x3-way toggle (toggle in upper position is inactive); satin chrome hardware; Sperzel locking tuners; Schaller straplocks; TonePros locking bridge w/stop tailpiece; white binding on body, neck & headstock; 22 XJ frets
munky_magik
01-29-2005, 05:32 PM
So basically it's a custom Les Paul.
btoto
01-29-2005, 05:37 PM
I think it's horrible...................at least it looks so in the pic
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 05:39 PM
iif someone gave it to me i would play it
but not worth my money
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 05:47 PM
hey for any of you who have limewire go download the video of Kirks guitar solo (the seattle one) its ****in sweet
btoto
01-29-2005, 05:47 PM
exactly !
Does anyone have any 'tallica vinyls???
They're not so expensive on ebay
http://search.ebay.com/metallica_Records_W0QQcatrefZC12QQfromZR40QQfsooZ1 QQfsopZ1QQsacatZ306QQsojsZ1
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 05:51 PM
cool
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 05:54 PM
anyone else buy SKOM besides me?
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 05:55 PM
is it worth it
btoto
01-29-2005, 06:00 PM
I'd like to buy SKOM but maybe in early March (on my birthday). I can't afford it now.
BTW, anyone seen the like I gave??? There are some rare vinyls there. Arghhhh I want that Jump In The Fire vinyl :upset:
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 06:00 PM
yeah...did you ever see it in theaters? i saw it there too and i still wanted to buy it. The extra clips on the bonus dvd are cool as well.
its was only like $20 where i got it
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 06:02 PM
yea thatd be cool
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 06:03 PM
are they live clips?
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 06:08 PM
i think there might be a couple i'll check, but i think most of them are extra clips that got left out of the movie. They're all pretty interesting
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 06:16 PM
7 hours of extras and no live
of cource there are live clips
btoto
01-29-2005, 06:30 PM
Is that Dave vs Lars thing included there???
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 06:32 PM
does it go back that far
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 06:59 PM
how long has that crap been goin on
munky_magik
01-29-2005, 07:02 PM
Please use the edit button instead of Double posting :)
btoto
01-29-2005, 07:05 PM
Wait........
oh here:
http://www.encycmet.com/news/2004-11-08b.shtml
I thought it was also included
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 07:07 PM
heh treachorous little man
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 07:36 PM
yeah they have the clip where Dave and Lars talk..its actually more like Dave whining about the past 20 years and how everything he touches turns to sh*t
\m/Pete\m/
01-29-2005, 07:38 PM
the movie spans from before James enters rehab, to the time in between, and when hes out
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 08:17 PM
yea when the band was kirk and lars
KILO5203
01-29-2005, 11:19 PM
why is it that dave got kicked out anyway? ive wondered that for a long time.
Freezing Moon
01-29-2005, 11:32 PM
why is it that dave got kicked out anyway? ive wondered that for a long time.
Drugs, didn't get along with the other members, and was an *******. I believe they actually kicked him out when he got in a fight with James... I think Dave Mustaine's awesome, but as I've said before, he just doesn't fit in to Metallica IMO. Even though I'd choose him over Kirk any day, Kirk fits the band better.
Hardtail
01-29-2005, 11:36 PM
For all you bassists out there look for Amnesia solo, its one of the greatest bass solos done, alot of bass distortion
JACKROXYOU
01-29-2005, 11:44 PM
well yea
that or orian
thelittledrummerboy
01-29-2005, 11:48 PM
Started learnin Creeping Death 2day, Extremely hard 2 play on drums. N e 1 got n e tips? :confused:
Greatly appreciated
Leper
01-29-2005, 11:52 PM
the movie spans from before James enters rehab, to the time in between, and when hes out
seemed like James had a better voice when he was an alcoholic. :lol:
KILO5203
01-29-2005, 11:58 PM
Drugs, didn't get along with the other members, and was an *******. I believe they actually kicked him out when he got in a fight with James... I think Dave Mustaine's awesome, but as I've said before, he just doesn't fit in to Metallica IMO. Even though I'd choose him over Kirk any day, Kirk fits the band better.
Oh well, it works out for the best. if he stayed with metallica there would be no megadeth.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 12:02 AM
seemed like James had a better voice when he was an alcoholic. :lol:
proven fact
Drugs, didn't get along with the other members, and was an *******. I believe they actually kicked him out when he got in a fight with James... I think Dave Mustaine's awesome, but as I've said before, he just doesn't fit in to Metallica IMO. Even though I'd choose him over Kirk any day, Kirk fits the band better.
did you not see SKOM??? It was obviously because he was way too drunk too often. And yes Mustaine is awesome, but Kirk really does fit the band better
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 12:05 AM
yea cause dave+ lars is way to much bitching for one band
yea cause dave+ lars is way to much bitching for one band
lol. man i had no idea jason was that mad when he left. and i had no idea the band was doing so badly. lars and james couldn't stop bitching at each other
ThrashMaster27
01-30-2005, 12:10 AM
For all you bassists out there look for Amnesia solo, its one of the greatest bass solos done, alot of bass distortion
Change greatest with 'Most Overrated' and you might have something there.
It's Anesthesia anyway.
KILO5203
01-30-2005, 12:10 AM
im still waiting for a store to start carrying SKOM in my town. no where has it yet.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 12:10 AM
yea iheard
does it talk about when it was lars and kirk thats all
metal_milita
01-30-2005, 12:13 AM
Man, I just got into Creeping Death. That song is awsome, best I've heard in a while. A lot of songs that aren't talked about a lot are great ie, Blackened, Dyers Eve, Creeping Death, Sanitarium etc.
Anesthesia isn't overrated IMO because not enough people even know about it. Its relativley hard considering its on a bass, but I play it on my guitar and it sounds wicked enough
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 12:15 AM
dude i talk about welcome home as many times as possible
metal_milita
01-30-2005, 12:18 AM
dude i talk about welcome home as many times as possible
Wow, one person or more!! That really doesn't mean its talked about a lot. I'm comparing it to the likes of Master of Puppets or Fade to Black.
If those songs were released as singles or had albums named after them, they would be much more popular and appreciated.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 12:20 AM
yea but what are ya gonna do
you hear about the "metallica" video game
Leper
01-30-2005, 12:47 AM
yea but what are ya gonna do
you hear about the "metallica" video game
I recall hearing something about this a long time ago, like just after the release of St. Anger but i haven't heard anything about it since. Is it coming out soon or what?
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 01:06 AM
For all you bassists out there look for Amnesia solo, its one of the greatest bass solos done, alot of bass distortion
what bassist hasnt heard that song?
Wow Your Ugly
01-30-2005, 01:56 AM
I saw Metallica in San Jose back in Novemember, and in San Francisco back in March. They ruled beyond belief both times.
The SF one was better, cause they played DYERS EVE!!! Hell yeah!! That kicked some major major metal ***.
SonorKen
01-30-2005, 02:02 AM
K, saw Some Kind of Monster today. Killer movie, I reccomend it to everyone. Even if your not a huge Metallica fan I reccomend anyone who likes music to watch it. It showed alot about the personalaties of the band members. James is a man with some serious issues that he faced head on, Kudos to James. Kirk is probably my favorite member, he is the most interesting. His house was just awesome! Lars is the whiney little *** I always thought he was, but, I won't go into that!
It just shows how something as big as that can eat you up inside. AND, man, some of those concert shots were just incredible, words can't describe it.
SonorKen
01-30-2005, 02:21 AM
Oh, and if for some freakish reason Lars or someone close to him would ever read this, dude, chew with your mouth closed, its nasty!
hammet_ownz
01-30-2005, 02:26 AM
heh treachorous little man
sounds like someone is bitter about not getting a cut of tallicas money huh
megadeath arent even that good
vashts80
01-30-2005, 02:33 AM
Mustaine > Hammett.
As much as I love 'tallica, unless you're conceited, you will agree.
ThrashMaster27
01-30-2005, 02:46 AM
sounds like someone is bitter about not getting a cut of tallicas money huh
megadeath arent even that good
He got Royalties for the songs he wrote, so shut your mouth. It's Megadeth.
DETH.
How hard is it to remember. Suppose it's like trying to spell Kirk Hammetts name right eh?
hammet_ownz
01-30-2005, 02:59 AM
He got Royalties for the songs he wrote, so shut your mouth. It's Megadeth.
DETH.
How hard is it to remember. Suppose it's like trying to spell Kirk Hammetts name right eh?
shut your hole punk i admit i made a mistake
what are ya? the 27th master of thrash?
more like a supreme master of trash
ThrashMaster27
01-30-2005, 03:12 AM
Wow, someone give this man an award for comedy. You make too many mistakes, fanboy.
Megadeth aren't that good? what have you heard of theres? Evidently not a lot.
hammet_ownz
01-30-2005, 03:21 AM
fanboy? thats rich
^^
come on, did i insult your poor little megaDETH obsession by giving my opinion?
oh no, im not gunna get over that.
your a prime example of someone cant take criticism, constructive or otherwise so just turn your megaDETH up and turn down the lights in your cave youll be right mate, however hard it is to fathom that someone, somewhere doesnt like megaDETH
ThrashMaster27
01-30-2005, 03:25 AM
No, you made an idiotic and wrong statement. I was simply pointing out he was paid for his time in Metallica. His frustration towards Metallica is not on a financial level, as I'm assuming he's well off from being in Megadeth. Personally Megadeth just break my top 5 band list and I can take critisism when it's actually based on true facts and personal opinion that isn't biased.
Plus, you didn't answer my question.
hammet_ownz
01-30-2005, 03:56 AM
i bought peace sells at a garage sale thinking it would have some metallica influence in it but alas there wasnt much, in my opinion. so that cd is in a box on top of my bookcase labelled 'cra.p'
answer your question?
hammet_ownz
01-30-2005, 03:56 AM
i bought peace sells at a garage sale thinking it would have some metallica influence in it but alas there wasnt much, in my opinion. so that cd is in a box on top of my bookcase labelled 'cra.p'
answer your question?
ThrashMaster27
01-30-2005, 04:05 AM
Yeah it does. Confirms you're an idiot for listening to only one of Megadeths albums and dismissing them straight away. What if someone only listened to St. Anger by Metallica and immediately dismissed them. What would you think about that?
Change greatest with 'Most Overrated' and you might have something there.
It's Anesthesia anyway.
lol owned... rep++
But I don't agree with him being overrated, I think he's rated enough? But yeah, every 'metal' bassist has heard that song I'd say.
benfan
01-30-2005, 06:48 AM
megadeth and metallica are both equally brilliant. I think the only reason mustaine is still bitter about metallica is because of the way he was treated when they fired him, also metallica are a little more popular but only because they released mainstream albums like metallica and, well st. anger was kind of mainstream because it wasnt just the metal heads who where listening to it(well it wasnt in england anyway)
W.M.A
01-30-2005, 07:03 AM
megadeth and metallica are both equally brilliant. I think the only reason mustaine is still bitter about metallica is because of the way he was treated when they fired him, also metallica are a little more popular but only because they released mainstream albums like metallica and, well st. anger was kind of mainstream because it wasnt just the metal heads who where listening to it(well it wasnt in england anyway)
a little more popular. try 90 million albums vs 15 million. and kill em all, ride the lightning, master of puppets and ...and justice for all combined sales easily beat all of megadeths, so even before they "sold out" they kicked mustaines ***.
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 08:07 AM
i bought peace sells at a garage sale thinking it would have some metallica influence in it but alas there wasnt much, in my opinion. so that cd is in a box on top of my bookcase labelled 'cra.p'
answer your question?
Why on earth would you expect a Megadeth album to have some Metallica influence?? And if you are going to make outrageous statements like that then at least justify them.
And also, disliking an album becuase it doesn't have enough Metallica influence is bordering on being ridiculously close minded.
No, you made an idiotic and wrong statement. I was simply pointing out he was paid for his time in Metallica. His frustration towards Metallica is not on a financial level, as I'm assuming he's well off from being in Megadeth. Personally Megadeth just break my top 5 band list and I can take critisism when it's actually based on true facts and personal opinion that isn't biased.
Plus, you didn't answer my question.
ok, im not a regular in this thread, but why do people still argue over the ancient 'deth / 'tallica thing?
i like both bands. mustaine was a pain while in metallica, but they did well with him. personally i just think there was too much ego in the band with hetfield and mustaine. however as theyre now in separate bands i dont see why its still such a big issue.
punkyguitardude
01-30-2005, 11:10 AM
ok, im not a regular in this thread, but why do people still argue over the ancient 'deth / 'tallica thing?
i like both bands. mustaine was a pain while in metallica, but they did well with him. personally i just think there was too much ego in the band with hetfield and mustaine. however as theyre now in separate bands i dont see why its still such a big issue.
how true, man i agree both bands are awesome and i think they are way better separated
btoto
01-30-2005, 11:14 AM
Stop b*tching about 'deth. Both bands are fantastic.
Whoever said that Peace Sells is a bad album can kiss my white a$$ ! :evil:
btoto
01-30-2005, 11:43 AM
Hey guys, some news here:
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=32045
Please read the comments, I fvcking laughed my a$$ off...so funny
Here's one of them
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To Metallica :
Please Tune your Guitars back to 440 E or 1/2 step down = E Flat. Drop B Sucks ***!!
Crank those ****ing Mesa Boogie Amps all the way up.
Grow some ****ing Hair!!.
Listen to Kill, Ride and Master, maybe even Justice
Fire Bob Cockrock!!
Drink some Jager!!
Tell the Ape on the Bass to calm down!! and give you guys some of his hair!!??
Now call Flemming Rasmussen and Mark Whitaker
Fly to Denmark and enter Sweet Silence Studio's
Find Kirks solo channel, then turn it on, don't just stare at it!!
Write and Record the sickest **** we have ever heard!!
NOW!!!
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 11:55 AM
If people are gonna bitch so much at least they could get the technicalities right.
Also, if they dislike Meallica's current sound, then why don't they do something other than moan? If they really dislike it so much they could jsut not listen them, or be really extreme and go and write the type of music they want to hear.
I mean really, how ridiculously petty minded do you have to be to constantly moan when a band change their sound?
These people deserve a ****ing slapping.
btoto
01-30-2005, 12:03 PM
*agrees* with munky magik
punkyguitardude
01-30-2005, 12:03 PM
Write and Record the sickest **** we have ever heard!!
NOW!!![/QUOTE]
Well said, my friend Metallica has put out way too much absolute shi't lately
i_love_my_epiphone
01-30-2005, 12:05 PM
agrees with munky an helps him with the slapping
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 12:15 PM
How can Dream Theater cover the entire MOP but put 'R.I.P. Metallica 1982-1991'? I know what they mean by that but they're disrespecting the band they're paying tribute to.
http://img155.exs.cx/img155/6822/front2aq.jpg
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 12:22 PM
If you don't know what they meant by it, then how can you say that they are dis-respecting them?
I mean really, try thinking things through.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 12:23 PM
yea people like to say that they died
benfan
01-30-2005, 12:30 PM
i think that is a little tasteless, i mean im sure dream theatre have released some stuff that the fans didn't like
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 12:32 PM
They cover the MOP album, but they also put 'RIP Metallica 1982-1991' on the cover. As most fans know 1991 was the year they released 'Metallica', their last metal album. So DT considers them dead when Metallica is still an active band. I consider that an insult.
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 12:33 PM
How do you know that DT think that? You're just making wild accusations fuled by your beliefs. It might be a secret joke or something, You Do Not Know.
IMO metallica did go downhill after the self titled, although Load and Reload are still good albums, just not up to the standard of previous material. but as for St. Anger...thats one of the few albums i would never buy.
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 12:38 PM
Its not a wild accusation. I refer my comments based on this cover.
http://img155.exs.cx/img155/6822/front2aq.jpg
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 12:39 PM
As I have previously stated, you don't know why they did that.
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 12:41 PM
I just hope you're not taking my opinions as facts.
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 12:46 PM
How can Dream Theater cover the entire MOP but put 'R.I.P. Metallica 1982-1991'? I know what they mean by that but they're disrespecting the band they're paying tribute to.
sounds like you're trying to pass your opinion off as fact. Try phrases such as "in my opinion" and "I think"
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Is that a fact?
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 12:54 PM
no it isn't.
Burdcheese
01-30-2005, 12:58 PM
Well there you go then
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 01:04 PM
Ok...
dr_feelgood
01-30-2005, 01:06 PM
I think DT is not trying to disrespect Metallica. I mean why would they waste so much time covering the MOP album if they hate em...?
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 01:07 PM
that is a good point
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 01:08 PM
Still, you can't ignore what's on the cover.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 01:09 PM
of course you can
its not like it stopped the sales metallica got
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 01:12 PM
Sales have nothing to do with it.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 01:13 PM
what is it about honor?
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 01:25 PM
so did any one hear of the metallica video game thats comin out
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 01:26 PM
thanks for the add
i_love_my_epiphone
01-30-2005, 01:28 PM
Still, you can't ignore what's on the cover.
Dude i think your blowing this way out of proportion, sure you have your opinion on what it means but you need to open your mind to what else it could mean
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 01:31 PM
What do you think it means?
i_love_my_epiphone
01-30-2005, 01:35 PM
honestly i have no idea what it means im just saying to you to calm down with the accusations on DT cause you don't know if thats what it truely means
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 01:36 PM
I was always calmed.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 01:47 PM
yea how long are we gonna talk dream theater
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 02:12 PM
The converstaion involving DT has stopped already.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 02:13 PM
o good
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 02:26 PM
I like DT.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 02:30 PM
so do i but this The ***OFFICIAL*** Metallica thread
so im gonna ask again did you guys hear about the metallica supported video game
http://www.metallicavault.com/game.php
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 02:34 PM
Sheesh, if you don't allow a little bit of off-topicness then the Place will get stale. Just as long as it's limited, off-topic subjects are good in a thread dedicated solely to one subject.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 02:37 PM
i know but it was over
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 02:50 PM
Sheesh, if you don't allow a little bit of off-topicness then the Place will get stale. Just as long as it's limited, off-topic subjects are good in a thread dedicated solely to one subject.
i dont understand
munky_magik
01-30-2005, 02:52 PM
i dont understand
no?
If you have the whole thread on only Metallica related subjects then it'll become boring. If you allow a bit of off-topic posting here and there it injects life into the thread and makes it more fun, well at least so I've found.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 02:56 PM
yea but it was kinda about metallica
but it was over
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 04:12 PM
where we at now?
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-30-2005, 04:29 PM
Dt.
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 04:38 PM
is there any new news on the new album
black album did bad as hell in the polls
Err, back to the Dream Theater discussion (Sorry, I came in late :p) I'm pretty sure every member of Dream Theater credits the early Metallica as one of their main influence/s. So I definately don't think they would have meant that cover as an insult.
metal_milita
01-30-2005, 05:43 PM
I agree with Master Of Nebulah Frost, it does come across as an insult unless otherwise stated, which they didn't. Stop over-reacting munky_magik to anything anyone does. Nobody cares, and it doesn't make you cool or "EL33t" whatever it is.
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 07:05 PM
no?
If you have the whole thread on only Metallica related subjects then it'll become boring. If you allow a bit of off-topic posting here and there it injects life into the thread and makes it more fun, well at least so I've found.
yea i guess that true as long as the off-topic discussions are related some how to metallica like dream theater's MoP
so do i but this The ***OFFICIAL*** Metallica thread
so im gonna ask again did you guys hear about the metallica supported video game
http://www.metallicavault.com/game.php
thats pretty cool
yea i guess that true as long as the off-topic discussions are related some how to metallica like dream theater's MoP
well it's not that bad to go off topic a little bit every once and a while
for example for a while we were talking about rep and how im still like 500 away from getting stars
and im about to mention the post count in here once i get it
ok here we go
Who Posted?
Total Posts: 12,141
User Name Posts
Squirrel 565
Burdcheese 430
Superpeer 398
JACKROXYOU 366
Kreator 298
gocaps99 297
almost passing kreator...
damn jack, i was like 5 behind you at one point and then i didn't post for a day and your up 60
metallicamaniac16
01-30-2005, 08:01 PM
I just bought Load 2 hours ago. After listening to it I can say that it was worth it. I loved it more than Black album.
From the songs I haven't heard before(from Load), The House That Jack Built, 2 x 4 and The Outlaw Thorn are just great.
Three more CDs to complete my 'tallica collection:
Garage. Inc, Reload and S&M :p
Between S&M and Reload, I'd say get Reload.
Between S&M and Reload, I'd say get Reload.
Wow really? I'd go with S&M. S&M should have had some better songs, yes, but it's a hell of a lot better than Reload
metallicamaniac16
01-30-2005, 08:11 PM
Man, I just got into Creeping Death. That song is awsome, best I've heard in a while. A lot of songs that aren't talked about a lot are great ie, Blackened, Dyers Eve, Creeping Death, Sanitarium etc.
Anesthesia isn't overrated IMO because not enough people even know about it. Its relativley hard considering its on a bass, but I play it on my guitar and it sounds wicked enough
I think Creeping Death is better on Live Sh*t. Just my humble opinion though. Btw, Dyers Eve kicks a$$!!!!!
metallicamaniac16
01-30-2005, 08:15 PM
Wow really? I'd go with S&M. S&M should have had some better songs, yes, but it's a hell of a lot better than Reload
All things considered, S&M is a live album. So with that, Live Sh*t is better IMO, so when I want to listen to a live album, I listen to it a lot more than S&M. With that, I havent touched S&M in a long time. Besides, I think Reload is really underrated, but I've touched on that several pages back. ;)
All things considered, S&M is a live album. So with that, Live Sh*t is better IMO, so when I want to listen to a live album, I listen to it a lot more than S&M. With that, I havent touched S&M in a long time. Besides, I think Reload is really underrated, but I've touched on that several pages back. ;)
Yes, Live Sh*t is a lot better. But I don't think reload is that great of an album.
So back to the guy that is going to get an album, get Live Sh*t > S&M
metallicamaniac16
01-30-2005, 08:30 PM
Yes, Live Sh*t is a lot better. But I don't think reload is that great of an album.
So back to the guy that is going to get an album, get Live Sh*t > S&M
Just so you know, he was tryin to decide between gettin S&M, Garage Inc, and Reload.(not tryin to sound like a smart a$$) I couldnt comment on Garage Inc, cause I dont have it.
guitarcreep13
01-30-2005, 08:46 PM
You guys are smart, how is:
"The Call of Ktutu" pronunced?
1.) The call of kuh-too-loo
or
2.) The call of too-loo
or something else.
I've been wondering this
Just so you know, he was tryin to decide between gettin S&M, Garage Inc, and Reload.(not tryin to sound like a smart a$$) I couldnt comment on Garage Inc, cause I dont have it.
Ah ok. Well i don't have Garage Inc either. I've heard a few songs off of it and they're ok
You guys are smart, how is:
"The Call of Ktutu" pronunced?
1.) The call of kuh-too-loo
or
2.) The call of too-loo
or something else.
I've been wondering this
the 1st one
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 08:50 PM
You guys are smart, how is:
"The Call of Ktutu" pronunced?
1.) The call of kuh-too-loo
or
2.) The call of too-loo
or something else.
I've been wondering this
i asked that a few pages ago
more like 20 pages but neways just pronounce it
cu too loo
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 08:58 PM
the 1st one
i just saw your thread that got closed but to answer your question i would say
cyberfret.com(lessons)
wholenote.com(lessons)
mxtabs.net
musicianforums.com ( to ask people questions that aren't explained on any other site)
taborama.com (best tab site IMO)
rockmagic.net(doesn't have that many tabs but they are all accurate)
musiciansfriend.com(save you money on guitar stuff but i would never buy a guitar or amp from the internet-just picks books etc.)
thats all i can think of for now, hope i helped :thumb:
i just saw your thread that got closed but to answer your question i would say
cyberfret.com(lessons)
wholenote.com(lessons)
mxtabs.net
musicianforums.com ( to ask people questions that aren't explained on any other site)
taborama.com (best tab site IMO)
rockmagic.net(doesn't have that many tabs but they are all accurate)
musiciansfriend.com(save you money on guitar stuff but i would never buy a guitar or amp from the internet-just picks books etc.)
thats all i can think of for now, hope i helped :thumb:
ok thanks
guitarcreep13
01-30-2005, 09:02 PM
i asked that a few pages ago
more like 20 pages but neways just pronounce it
cu too loo
:thumb: sorry, never noticed it
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 09:04 PM
ok thanks
im sure you knew just about all of those sites but i just wanted to look smart and helpful
KillemAllforOne83
01-30-2005, 09:09 PM
Ok on a new topic.. at madly in anger world tour, the show i was at i couldn't hear any of kirks solos :confused: but when james played nothing else matters solo, i could hear it perfect.. did anyone hear this or am i stupid??
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 09:10 PM
Ok on a new topic.. at madly in anger world tour, the show i was at i couldn't hear any of kirks solos :confused: but when james played nothing else matters solo, i could hear it perfect.. did anyone hear this or am i stupid??
i would say you are stupid
KillemAllforOne83
01-30-2005, 09:16 PM
My bro didn't hear eaither, or my friends.. they must be stupid also..
JACKROXYOU
01-30-2005, 09:17 PM
My bro didn't hear eaither, or my friends.. they must be stupid also..
guess so cause i heard it great
guitarcreep13
01-30-2005, 09:47 PM
uhh, i just cant get this song outta my head, but i dunno the name of it. can you figure it out?
It goes something like this
|------------------------|
|------------------------|
|---2~--2~--2------------|
|---------------0-2------|
|-0---0---0---3-----3-0--|
|------------------------|
I tried it on google... nothing happened
metallicamaniac16
01-30-2005, 09:53 PM
uhh, i just cant get this song outta my head, but i dunno the name of it. can you figure it out?
It goes something like this
|------------------------|
|------------------------|
|---2~--2~--2------------|
|---------------0-2------|
|-0---0---0---3-----3-0--|
|------------------------|
I tried it on google... nothing happened
That could be any song by any band. Or are you sure its by 'tallica? I've had Californication by the Red Hot Chili Peppers stuck in my head all day. :D
guitarcreep13
01-30-2005, 09:58 PM
Yeah, it's metallica for sure. I had listenend to them today and i listener to that song and it's been stuck but i forgot the title
metallicamaniac16
01-30-2005, 10:03 PM
Yeah, it's metallica for sure. I had listenend to them today and i listener to that song and it's been stuck but i forgot the title
I got my guitar and gave it a shot, but i dunno what it is. Sorry, I tried. :thumb:
guitarcreep13
01-30-2005, 10:14 PM
OH! I made a mistake(With timing)
|------------------------------|
|------------------------------|
|----2~----2~----2~------------|
|----------------------0-2-----|
|-0-----0-----0-----3------3-0-|
|------------------------------|
- equals 1 eighth note
metallicamaniac16
01-30-2005, 10:19 PM
It might be Hero of the Day, but I just got Load today, and I'm not too familiar with that song. Anyway it's late, I'm sleep deprived, and I have school tomorrow. If all else fails, I can sleep during French class. :thumb: See ya!
guitarcreep13
01-30-2005, 10:25 PM
It might be Hero of the Day, but I just got Load today, and I'm not too familiar with that song. Anyway it's late, I'm sleep deprived, and I have school tomorrow. If all else fails, I can sleep during French class. :thumb: See ya!
RONNIE
from
LOAD!
Thats it!.
Thanks metallicamaniac for bringing up load so i skimmed through it and found it. now i go to sleep.
night.
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 10:31 PM
It might be Hero of the Day, but I just got Load today, and I'm not too familiar with that song. Anyway it's late, I'm sleep deprived, and I have school tomorrow. If all else fails, I can sleep during French class. :thumb: See ya!
lol, i always sleep through my boring classes too
shawnson
01-30-2005, 10:36 PM
lol i really didnt like load or reload.... aside from the fact of having microscopic sperm on the cover (that's what it is.... not lava), the songs just didn't have the same feel as the ones from MOP, RTL and KEA.
led_zep_luvr
01-30-2005, 10:37 PM
lol i really didnt like load or reload.... aside from the fact of having microscopic sperm on the cover (that's what it is.... not lava), the songs just didn't have the same feel as the ones from MOP, RTL and KEA.
are you serious? about the sperm?
Leper
01-30-2005, 11:09 PM
lol i really didnt like load or reload.... aside from the fact of having microscopic sperm on the cover (that's what it is.... not lava), the songs just didn't have the same feel as the ones from MOP, RTL and KEA.
How in the hell did you find that out??
lol i really didnt like load or reload.... aside from the fact of having microscopic sperm on the cover (that's what it is.... not lava), the songs just didn't have the same feel as the ones from MOP, RTL and KEA.
where the hell did you get this info? I don't think metallica is that disgusting...
And of course they don't.
1) they're 15 years older
2) cliff died. Everything changed after cliff died
Yeah, it's metallica for sure. I had listenend to them today and i listener to that song and it's been stuck but i forgot the title
how do the lyrics go?
im sure you knew just about all of those sites but i just wanted to look smart and helpful
ok come on your a very smart guy!!!
...yea i knew those
but thanks anyways
Leper
01-30-2005, 11:30 PM
where the hell did you get this info? I don't think metallica is that disgusting...
hmmm i dunno...they WERE in kind of an experimental stage of their career... :lol:
hmmm i dunno...they WERE in kind of an experimental stage of their career... :lol:
Yea i guess your right...they were some pretty weird guys on stage. but i can't really see them putting a sperm on a cover. i think that'd be something that some punk band would do
Leper
01-30-2005, 11:39 PM
Yea i guess your right...they were some pretty weird guys on stage. but i can't really see them putting a sperm on a cover. i think that'd be something that some punk band would do
:naughty:
Leper
01-30-2005, 11:40 PM
Haha, sorry, i just really wanted to use that smiley and have never gotten an opportunity like now to use it haha.
metal_milita
01-30-2005, 11:46 PM
Its true, that is sperm.
One is called Piss And Blood (Reload?) and one is called Semen and Blood (Load? One or the other). I read it off some hardcore metallica site, but it is true. Kirk saw it on the bottom of some wierd artist, and liked the images.
Wow Your Ugly
01-31-2005, 12:52 AM
I think in their VH1 interview Jason said something like...
And then we come back with our hair cut, and having sperm on album covers.
Something like that, I really forget.
\m/Pete\m/
01-31-2005, 01:56 AM
^^ Yeah
I really wanna buy Binge and Purge...how much does it run for??
Is that the set where Kirk plays that awesome solo along with Little Wing?
Leper
01-31-2005, 02:30 PM
Any other little known disgusting metallica facts that anyone wants to share?...
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-31-2005, 02:36 PM
Any other little known disgusting metallica facts that anyone wants to share?...
They cut their hair. ;)
^Dream~Theater^
01-31-2005, 02:40 PM
^^ Yeah
I really wanna buy Binge and Purge...how much does it run for??
Is that the set where Kirk plays that awesome solo along with Little Wing?
costs around $108 here.
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-31-2005, 02:47 PM
$108? Wow, I got it for around $60, new.
\m/Pete\m/
01-31-2005, 02:47 PM
that aint too bad i guess
^Dream~Theater^
01-31-2005, 02:48 PM
I've seen it cost 108 in multiple places here. Guess I dont have a choice but to get screwed on the cost.
munky_magik
01-31-2005, 02:50 PM
Amazon?
Master Of Nebulah Frost
01-31-2005, 02:51 PM
I just don't understand how the DVD box set is less than the VHS box set; $80.
\m/Pete\m/
01-31-2005, 03:01 PM
I just heard Megadeth's cover of Battery and it starts out pretty sweet but Daves voice just doesnt cut it man
EDIT: on another note Drowning Pool's Creeping Death cover is pretty good (with old vocalist) as is Machine Heads cover of Battery and Disturbed's Fade to Black
oh and its not Megadeth...its like blakk totem or something
munky_magik
01-31-2005, 03:07 PM
I just heard Megadeth's cover of Battery and it starts out pretty sweet but Daves voice just doesnt cut it man
I believe you should look at this: http://www.megadeth.com/_sections/scorpion/12_10_04.html
\m/Pete\m/
01-31-2005, 03:12 PM
I believe you should look at this: http://www.megadeth.com/_sections/scorpion/12_10_04.html
wow you're on it. I didnt even know you had posted this
mariojenkins
01-31-2005, 03:17 PM
Yeah I like the cover they do of Little Wing on Binge. I actually got it for 45. And why would Megadeth do a metallica cover lol? I'm not saying they didn't, but why would they?...
led_zep_luvr
01-31-2005, 03:50 PM
Its true, that is sperm.
One is called Piss And Blood (Reload?) and one is called Semen and Blood (Load? One or the other). I read it off some hardcore metallica site, but it is true. Kirk saw it on the bottom of some wierd artist, and liked the images.
i need proof
JACKROXYOU
01-31-2005, 04:19 PM
no way semen and blood?
metallicamaniac16
01-31-2005, 04:51 PM
RONNIE
from
LOAD!
Thats it!.
Thanks metallicamaniac for bringing up load so i skimmed through it and found it. now i go to sleep.
night.
Glad I could help. :cool:
metallicamaniac16
01-31-2005, 04:54 PM
Its true, that is sperm.
One is called Piss And Blood (Reload?) and one is called Semen and Blood (Load? One or the other). I read it off some hardcore metallica site, but it is true. Kirk saw it on the bottom of some wierd artist, and liked the images.
Awwww, dammit! I'm not gonna be able to touch the Reload case anymore! Thats not right!
\m/Pete\m/
01-31-2005, 05:03 PM
i think it'll be ok
led_zep_luvr
01-31-2005, 05:06 PM
Awwww, dammit! I'm not gonna be able to touch the Reload case anymore! Thats not right!
dude there is no proof. how could you beleive it. it might be true but i didnt see anything like that
led_zep_luvr
01-31-2005, 05:16 PM
Awwww, dammit! I'm not gonna be able to touch the Reload case anymore! Thats not right!
dude there is no proof. how could you beleive it. it might be true but i didnt see anything like that
vote me
01-31-2005, 05:22 PM
dude there is no proof. how could you beleive it. it might be true but i didnt see anything like that
i think hes being sarcastic
btoto
01-31-2005, 05:49 PM
It's true about that piss/semen/blood/sperm thing. I don't know I thing I read it in one of these interviews. It's also got an interview with Ron. You should check it out. It's very interesting
http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/Interviews/interviews.htm
JACKROXYOU
01-31-2005, 06:15 PM
which?
vashts80
01-31-2005, 06:21 PM
http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/Interviews/1996_load_perspectives.htm
" It is the ultimate subversive act. In thousands of record stores throughout the world, displayed for anyone to see, is a photograph of ejaculated sperm mixed with blood. The cover of Metallica's humorously titled Load is a 1990 photograph titled "Semen and Blood lll" by the controversial artist Andres Serrano (his 1987 work, "Piss Christ"--a cross submerged in the artist's urine-- was condemned on the Senate floor by Republican senator Jesse Helms) that Hammett found in a book of Serrano's work that he bought at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.
Neither Hetfield nor Hammett will talk about the meaning of the cover art. "I don't really want to get into exploring the deeper meaning of that image only because I don't want people to hear it and get a mindset on it and always see what I get out of that image," says Hammett. "I'd rather just explain that it's semen and blood and it's by this guy named Andres Serrano and that I think it's a really beautiful abstract image that is open to a lot of interpretation and metaphor." "
btoto
01-31-2005, 06:25 PM
Oh $hit, guys I fvcking hated James, Lars and Dave after reading interview with Ron
:upset:
It's really not that big of a deal anyone. It's just like Page being a satanist, who cares? They put out amazing music
btoto
01-31-2005, 06:47 PM
I didn't say music was bad..........it's about personalities
Some intersing moments from that interview:
--------------------------------------------------
Was James singing and playing guitar at this time?
"No. He wanted to be the singer/frontman so it was just Troy on guitar. We started working on three original tunes, one ended up to be Hit The Lights , which became a Metallica song, another song called Handsome Ransom , and a song called Let's Go Rock'n'Roll . The combined riffs from Handsome Ransom and Let's Go Rock'n'Roll became the Metallica song No Remorse . We never really played any gigs, Mulligan decided he wanted to play more progressive 'Rush' type of music, he was a real good drummer, very technical, and I guess he thought we were a little too heavy or too glam for him at the time."
So this is around mid 1981... is this when James met Lars for the first time?
"Yeah. Lars and James hooked up I believe through Hugh Tanner, Hugh brought Lars to our house and I think Troy had already quit the band so James had to go back to playing guitar. When he and Lars first jammed, I thought Lars was the worst drummer I had ever heard in my life! He couldn't keep a beat, and compared to Mulligan, he just couldn't play. So I told James, 'This guy sucks, dude'. And I told them to do whatever they wanted to do and I was just gonna stick to photography, at the time I was taking pictures for bands like Motley Crue. Anyway, Lars would come over and I would watch him and James jam together, and it got better and better but I still didn't feel like getting back into it."
So what's the story about Dave Mustaine and his dogs?
"I think it was the summer of '82. Dave had come over to my house on a Sunday afternoon and he brought his two pit bull puppies. I think I was in the shower at the time; anyway, Dave let the dogs loose and they were jumping all over my car scratching the **** out of it, I had a rebuilt '72 Pontiac LeMans. And James came out and said 'Hey Dave, get those f**kin' dogs off of Ron's car!'. And Dave said, 'What the f**k did you say? Don't you talk that way about my dogs!'. Then they started fighting and it spilled into the house, and when I came out of the shower I see Dave punch James right across the mouth and he flies across the room, so I jumped on Dave's back and he flipped me over onto the coffee table. And then James gets up and yells to Dave, 'You're out of the f**kin' band! Get the f**k out of here!'. So Dave loaded all his **** up and left all pissed off. The next day he comes back crying, pleading 'Please let me back in the band'."
So, you knew nothing of any negotiations between the other band members and Cliff?
"Things started happening back at the house... my things would be missing. The worst thing was when we played with my friend Jim's band KAOS, and ROXX REGIME (who later became STRYPER). Apparently one of Dave's (Mustaine) buddies stole my back-up Ibanez bass guitar...My leather jacket was missing...I was really getting sick of the situation. And I didn't know why this was happening because I did what I could and what they asked me to do. Lars and I butted heads a lot, I hate when people show up late and use you all the time and that's just what Lars did. I would have to drive all the way down to Newport Beach to pick him up, so I told him 'If you can't make it, it's not my problem'. Everytime we did a gig up in San Francisco I had to borrow my Dad's truck, pay for the gas, I had to rent the trailer out of my pocket, I paid for the hotel rooms on my Visa card... and San Francisco is expensive even for a cheap room. I paid for all of this and they couldn't understand why I was mad, they said 'Well, you're getting the check after the gig', and we were only getting paid a $100 per gig at the most, which didn't even cover the hotel room. Plus we drank a couple hundred dollars worth of alcohol. I always said to them, 'If I'm a part of this band, why is it up to me to pay for everything while you guys get the free ride?'. I had suggested we get a manager or somebody that could back us because I was really getting tired of this. And they just laughed about it and said 'have a sense of humor'. They just didn't understand, so they interpreted it as me having a bad attitude."
So you were just fed up with their antics and you probably didn't think that they would become successful...
"Right. I knew the way they were... Dave, at the time, was an *******, and Lars only cared about himself. But what really hurt me was James, because he was my friend and he was siding with them and I suddenly became the outcast in the band."
At the end of November '82, when you went up to S.F. for the third time, did you have any idea that they were planning on replacing you with Cliff?
"After I heard them talk about Cliff, I had some idea. I remember after that show it was raining like a mother****er and I saw Cliff, all in denim, just standing there in the rain. And I said to him, 'Hey dude, do you want a ride home', I kind of felt sorry for the guy. I kind of saw the writing on the wall...We played at the Mabuhay Gardens the next day, it was a little hole in the wall. That was the last gig I did with Metallica."
Driving back home to L.A., did you think to yourself that you were about to be replaced? "First off, let me clear something...I'm talking a long time ago, this was so long ago it doesn't even matter today. I'm just telling you what I was feeling then. I want to make it clear that it doesn't bother me now, this was 14 years ago, it's just memories. I get along with all the guys now. So, this is what happened.. On the way home we stopped at the liquor store, I was driving, and they got a whole gallon of whisky. James , Lars, and Dave were completely smashed out of their minds. They would constantly bang on the window for me to pull over so they could take a piss, and all the sudden I look over and see Lars lying in the middle of Interstate 5 on the double yellow line. It was just unbelievable! And I just said '**** this ****!'. Then one of my friends told me that they witnessed Dave pour a beer right into the pickups of my Washburn bass as he said 'I ****in' hate Ron'. The next day my bass didn't work. My girlfriend at the time also told me that she overheard that they wanted to bring Cliff in the band."
Do you think their intention was to harass you until you would quit the band?
"I don't know. If you listen to their version, they claim they kicked me out. But I never, ever heard them tell me 'You're out of the band'. What happened was, after Dave f**ked my bass up, I confronted the band when they came over for practice and said 'Get the f**k out of my house!' I turned to James and said, 'I'm sorry, James, but you have to go too'. And they were gone within the next couple of days. They packed all their gear and moved to San Francisco."
So this all happened around the first week of December '82.
"Yeah. It was right after we had returned from that trip to S.F. I was so disgusted with the whole thing that I sold all my equipment: my amps, my cases, I even sold my Les Paul which would now be worth about $1,200. I was just so pissed with the whole thing. Then in 1986, my friend Katon DePenna, who was a singer, told me that I should get back into it. I had some cash in the bank at the time so I went and bought a Fender P bass and a Marshall half stack bass amp. So Katon and I started jamming and we formed a band called Phantasm. It was more like progressive punk, it's hard to describe; the lyrics were punk but the music had tons of different changes in it. Our first two shows with Phantasm were on the same two nights as Jason's first shows with Metallica, when they played the Country Club & Jezebel's. I think November 7th and 8th. We played Fenders Ballroom in Long Beach with about ten other punk bands. We also played Fenders opening for the Plasmatics in front of 1,500 people - it was totally cool, that was actually the biggest crowd I ever played in front of. The reason Phantasm broke up is because I just kept getting bombarded with the Metallica thing and the band got sick of it. A lot of kids came to our gigs just because I had been in Metallica. When we went to play Phoenix all the guys from Flotsam and Jetsam were jumping off the stage and after the show everyone bombarded me for autographs. So it just faded away after that and I haven't been in a band since."
JACKROXYOU
01-31-2005, 06:49 PM
wow very nice
so now we know why dave was thrown out.
JACKROXYOU
01-31-2005, 07:37 PM
better i know that
i just thought he was a whiney bitch
better i know that
i just thought he was a whiney bitch
well according to SKOM, he was also a bit of a drunk, even worse than Hetfield when he checked himself into rehab
metallicamaniac16
01-31-2005, 09:20 PM
Dave was also kicked out cause he was big into drugs, and that interfered with the rest of the band.
\m/Pete\m/
01-31-2005, 09:24 PM
very interesting
metallicamaniac16
01-31-2005, 09:26 PM
It's really not that big of a deal anyone. It's just like Page being a satanist, who cares? They put out amazing music
It can be a big deal for some people if their idols are involved in stuff like satanism and painting by a guy who drew Jesus covered in piss. I don't personally agree with Page and his whole satanist deal, or with Metallica usin a painting by the likes of that artist, but the music is great and I'll listen to it.
It can be a big deal for some people if their idols are involved in stuff like satanism and painting by a guy who drew Jesus covered in piss. I don't personally agree with Page and his whole satanist deal, or with Metallica usin a painting by the likes of that artist, but the music is great and I'll listen to it.
Yea your right. I don't like the fact that metallica used that for a cover or page's satanist ways, but the music is awesome
led_zep_luvr
01-31-2005, 09:35 PM
It's true about that piss/semen/blood/sperm thing. I don't know I thing I read it in one of these interviews. It's also got an interview with Ron. You should check it out. It's very interesting
http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/Interviews/interviews.htm
i liked the interview with cliff's parents
ThrashMaster27
01-31-2005, 09:46 PM
I thought all this **** with Dave, James and Lars being arseholes to Ron was common knowledge. Anyway kids, I don't know if this link has been posted before, but if not, enjoy!
http://www.metallicademos.tk
Guitarist(AoA)
01-31-2005, 10:23 PM
Hello-I'm a big Metallica fan!!!
Favorite Song-One, Seek And Destroy, Fade To Black, or Enter The Sandman
ThrashMaster27
01-31-2005, 10:26 PM
Enter The Sandman? never heard that one before.
Guitarist(AoA)
01-31-2005, 10:26 PM
I can play most of One, Fade To Black, Enter The Sand Man, Seek And Destroy, and Master Of Puppets on guitar. :thumb: :D
ThrashMaster27
01-31-2005, 10:34 PM
There's no 'The' in Enter Sandman.
Freezing Moon
01-31-2005, 10:41 PM
I can play most of One, Fade To Black, Enter The Sand Man, Seek And Destroy, and Master Of Puppets on guitar. :thumb: :D
I don't think anyone in here can do that. Congratulations.
well according to SKOM, he was also a bit of a drunk, even worse than Hetfield when he checked himself into rehab
He went to rehab many many times I believe. I can't remember the exact number.
Leper
01-31-2005, 11:08 PM
http://www.metallicaworld.co.uk/Interviews/1996_load_perspectives.htm
" It is the ultimate subversive act. In thousands of record stores throughout the world, displayed for anyone to see, is a photograph of ejaculated sperm mixed with blood. The cover of Metallica's humorously titled Load is a 1990 photograph titled "Semen and Blood lll" by the controversial artist Andres Serrano (his 1987 work, "Piss Christ"--a cross submerged in the artist's urine-- was condemned on the Senate floor by Republican senator Jesse Helms) that Hammett found in a book of Serrano's work that he bought at the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art.
Neither Hetfield nor Hammett will talk about the meaning of the cover art. "I don't really want to get into exploring the deeper meaning of that image only because I don't want people to hear it and get a mindset on it and always see what I get out of that image," says Hammett. "I'd rather just explain that it's semen and blood and it's by this guy named Andres Serrano and that I think it's a really beautiful abstract image that is open to a lot of interpretation and metaphor." "
I get the feeling Hammett didn't want to get into it because even HE didn't know what they were thinking, but what's done is done. Maybe when it came to deciding an album cover they agreed they hadn't done anything controversial enough in their careers. :lol:
Leper
02-01-2005, 12:18 AM
uggh i just got my copy of Load (lol probly bout the first time i've touched the album since about 2 months after i got it) and all i can say is that's ****in disgusting.
led_zep_luvr
02-01-2005, 12:21 AM
its kindda funny too in a way...
metal_milita
02-01-2005, 01:24 AM
I can play most of One, Fade To Black, Enter The Sand Man, Seek And Destroy, and Master Of Puppets on guitar. :thumb: :D
i can play same list (+more) exept solo is Seek and Destroy. Haven't bothered trying yet. Kudos though
hammet_ownz
02-01-2005, 04:12 AM
i wouldnt stress out too much on the whole sperm topic, lol, metallica didnt do it, some sicko freak did.
bit of a worry that kirk bought it though :S maybe it coincides with one of his freaky religions
btoto
02-01-2005, 03:18 PM
I thought all this **** with Dave, James and Lars being arseholes to Ron was common knowledge. Anyway kids, I don't know if this link has been posted before, but if not, enjoy!
http://www.metallicademos.tk
Wow, great page dude. Thanks a lot :thumb:
i_love_my_epiphone
02-01-2005, 03:59 PM
uggh i just got my copy of Load (lol probly bout the first time i've touched the album since about 2 months after i got it) and all i can say is that's ****in disgusting.
Good for you!
JACKROXYOU
02-01-2005, 04:54 PM
yea people love to rag on post black
Mister_Che
02-01-2005, 04:57 PM
They aren't open to other sh.it. Like they can't accept that Metallica wanted to play what they wanted to play.
^Dream~Theater^
02-01-2005, 04:58 PM
They aren't open to other sh.it. Like they can't accept that Metallica wanted to play what they wanted to play.
Exactly. If you don't like what they play, then turn it off. You can do it to every other band you dislike so why should Metallica be any diffrent?
JACKROXYOU
02-01-2005, 05:02 PM
yea how many master albums can you make even with cliff?
ThrashMaster27
02-01-2005, 05:19 PM
That's what I keep saying to people. There's no consistant bands that release all quality albums over 22 years or more. Even Judas Priest can't do that.
Well actually I lie, Overkill managed it.
JACKROXYOU
02-01-2005, 05:27 PM
yea next angel of ret
but yea no one has done that except say
elton john?
That's what I keep saying to people. There's no consistant bands that release all quality albums over 22 years or more. Even Judas Priest can't do that.
Well actually I lie, Overkill managed it.
Well how long have the Chili Peppers been going on?
And Elton John? and Eric Clapton?
I can play most of One, Fade To Black, Enter The Sand Man, Seek And Destroy, and Master Of Puppets on guitar.
but the real question is can you play them right. today i actually recorded both parts of Sanitarium and Master of Puppets and it made me realize how amazing of a pair James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett are. It took me probably an hour or so to get the playing and timing right. But now i can say i can play sanitarium :thumb:
and i can play that list and then some except for the S&D solo.
...bump? this thread dies and then lives for a few hours and then falls back page by page...
what songs can everyone play?
FTB
MOP
One
RTL
Sanitarium
S&D (most)
RTL (most)
Nothing else Matters
Unforgiven (except solo)
Of Wolf and Man
Holier than Thou
Enter Sandman
Call of the Ktulu (except solos)
Huber
02-01-2005, 07:46 PM
Well on guitar I can play little bits of:
Creeping Death
MoP
Fade to Black
One
Enter Sandman
And Justice For All
On drums I can play thouroughly:
Enter Sandman
And Justice For All
Dyer's Eve (slowed down)
so slip, you pissed at this tom delonge guy too???
back to the topic
i can't play drums, but i could probably play most of them on bass (after buying a bass, practicing a lot, and slowing them down)
Huber
02-01-2005, 07:49 PM
so slip, you pissed at this tom delonge guy too???
Yes, him and that Rawkin Rob guy. Those guys have to be jokes.
Yes, him and that Rawkin Rob guy. Those guys have to be jokes.
i think they're the same dude on different names. same spelling problems
Huber
02-01-2005, 08:17 PM
Anyone have any videos or audio of the performance Metallica did with Joey Jordison. I can only find Enter Sandman. I really, really wanna see more.
Anyone have any videos or audio of the performance Metallica did with Joey Jordison. I can only find Enter Sandman. I really, really wanna see more.
Try google, like the images. they sometimes have videos
stucool37
02-01-2005, 09:27 PM
can someone tell me if there is any truth to the rumor i've heard about metallica making a new album? if they are, when is it due for release?
can someone tell me if there is any truth to the rumor i've heard about metallica making a new album? if they are, when is it due for release?
usually your supposed to read past pages, but since your a noob ill tell you. yes there are rumors, and yes they are true. metallica will be making a new album soon
and just a little advice, read the rules in the forums before you make threads. PLEASE
stucool37
02-01-2005, 09:46 PM
sry. thanx tho
Guitarist(AoA)
02-01-2005, 09:49 PM
[QUOTE=TheChoSenOnes]I don't think anyone in here can do that. Congratulations.
Thx :) :thumb:
Guitarist(AoA)
02-01-2005, 09:52 PM
but the real question is can you play them right. today i actually recorded both parts of Sanitarium and Master of Puppets and it made me realize how amazing of a pair James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett are. It took me probably an hour or so to get the playing and timing right. But now i can say i can play sanitarium :thumb:
and i can play that list and then some except for the S&D solo.
Actaully, I'm prabably not playing them perfect (ashamed) :upset:
But at least I have the basic idea :lol:
Guitarist(AoA)
02-01-2005, 09:54 PM
i can play same list (+more) exept solo is Seek and Destroy. Haven't bothered trying yet. Kudos though
I bow down to you :thumb:
Ibanex0110
02-01-2005, 10:04 PM
I can play rhythm guitar to most of the early songs
S+D
Whiplash
The Four Horsemen+ fast solo
Metal Militia
FFWF
For whom the Bell Tolls+ leads
FTB + solos
Creeping Death + solo
pretty much every song off of master of puppets, and the solos for the title track and disposable heroes
blackened
one + solos
harvester
dyers eve
W.M.A
02-02-2005, 12:37 AM
Well how long have the Chili Peppers been going on?
And Elton John? and Eric Clapton?
chili pepper released one hot minute, pretty garbage record. i like load, it isn;t a classic but i like the heavier bluesier bass and guitar and james actually using his voice. does ne1 kno y lars' drums sound like hes bashing trash cans with a golf club on st.anger, i just cant comprehend that.
Freezing Moon
02-02-2005, 12:39 AM
chili pepper released one hot minute, pretty garbage record. i like load, it isn;t a classic but i like the heavier bluesier bass and guitar and james actually using his voice. does ne1 kno y lars' drums sound like hes bashing trash cans with a golf club on st.anger, i just cant comprehend that.
Probably trying to get a "heavier" or different sound. I don't understand either, it's like he forgot how to tune drums.
unComfortablyNumb
02-02-2005, 01:51 AM
Probably trying to get a "heavier" or different sound. I don't understand either, it's like he forgot how to tune drums.
Apparently, Bob Rock convinced him that it sounded good.
appreciate_it
02-02-2005, 02:47 AM
probably. What do you think about all this **** about petitions with Bob and everyone (everyone?)
wanting him to go....???
Justice4all
02-02-2005, 04:54 AM
The petitions are useless. Metallica always do things their way and even though they care about the fans, they do what they wanna do. So metallica ain't gonna care about the petition telling bob rock to leave.
ThrashMaster27
02-02-2005, 05:07 AM
Yeah, Bob Rock is just a producer. At the end of it all Metallica writes and play the music, he just shouts at them and twists a few knobs. I'm aware he also played Bass on St. Anger aswell, but that's besides the point, I don't think even Les Claypool could have saved that album with Bass alone.
Lithium2112
02-02-2005, 07:36 AM
anyone buy the classic rock magazine issue for january? theres like 8 pages talking about cliff's death. just finished reading it its pretty good.
what i dont understand is why they put a pic of hetfield on the cover.
acefrehleyjendell
02-02-2005, 07:56 AM
Only 1 week until SKOM is out over here. I hope theres more
with Lars crying with Dave. Not because he's crying, but because
i wanna see what actually happened.
bball_1523
02-02-2005, 08:53 AM
Probably trying to get a "heavier" or different sound. I don't understand either, it's like he forgot how to tune drums.
I thought I heard Lars say he purposely left the drums un-tuned to get that so-called raw garbage sound.
Yeah, Bob Rock is just a producer. At the end of it all Metallica writes and play the music, he just shouts at them and twists a few knobs. I'm aware he also played Bass on St. Anger aswell, but that's besides the point, I don't think even Les Claypool could have saved that album with Bass alone.
The only thing was that he thought the new metallica sounded good. It wasn't bad, I admit, it just was far from the metallica i grew to love
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