Metallica Inc.

[^Dream~Theater^]

its not just st anger, everything after and justice for all has been crap you fool
St.Anger was the only awful album they did and it wasn't all bad, there was a few good songs. If you dont like anything after AJFA then good for you and shut up about it, This is a Metallica thread and no one cares if you dislike it.

[Mister_Che]

its not just st anger, everything after and justice for all has been crap you fool

You sure it was ALL crap? Do you even own the cd's? Have you read the lyrics instead of worrying if it's all stick-to-your-roots Thrash?

[Mind Revolution]

i own all the cds, and have read the lyrics, yes. i stand by my statement

[Mister_Che]

i own all the cds, and have read the lyrics, yes. i stand by my statement

Then back up your statement.

[Mind Revolution]

its a simple matter of taste/ opinion, stop crying over it

[CrashcourseInBrainSurgery]

2 things, firstly is this album gonna be another downtuned, no solos, openmiced drums album? and secondly most of you people who say st anger is crap have probably just heard another person sayin its crap and thought thas the cool thing to do, f u actually listen to it its a good album( nothin compared to their other stuff tho)

[munky_magik]

its a simple matter of taste/ opinion, stop crying over it
or you could back up your statement to keep everyone happy :)

[munky_magik]

2 things, firstly is this album gonna be another downtuned, no solos, openmiced drums album? and secondly most of you people who say st anger is crap have probably just heard another person sayin its crap and thought thas the cool thing to do, f u actually listen to it its a good album( nothin compared to their other stuff tho)

[double post]*sigh* Apparently this album is meant to have a thrashier feel to it, but no one actually knows what it is going to sound like. And if people don't actually like St Anger then just leave them be, it's a good album in your opinion but it might not be in that of other's.[/double post]

[Mind Revolution]

how am i supposed to back up the fact that i dont like certain metallica albums? its a simple opinion. the only decent thing after and justice for all was garage inc, and my friend of misery

[CrashcourseInBrainSurgery]

fair enuff

[Mister_Che]

how am i supposed to back up the fact that i dont like certain metallica albums? its a simple opinion. the only decent thing after and justice for all was garage inc, and my friend of misery

Then perhaps you should say "I don't like them" instead of "They are crap." It's much simpler.

[Mind Revolution]

its just an opinion, if you dont feel that way then thats fine, its not gonna change what i think though

[munky_magik]

how am i supposed to back up the fact that i dont like certain metallica albums? its a simple opinion. the only decent thing after and justice for all was garage inc, and my friend of misery

You could say why, as in poor production, repetitive riffs etc.... If you do it this way it just looks like you aren't mindlessly flaming the band, and appears as discussion instead.

[Mind Revolution]

ill admit st anger sold better then anything i could have ever written

[Joe]

its a simple matter of taste/ opinion, stop crying over it

you were the one crying about it...

You could say why, as in poor production, repetitive riffs etc.... If you do it this way it just looks like you aren't mindlessly flaming the band, and appears as discussion instead.

exactly, you can't just go around and say it's crap unless you have reasons to say it's crap. st anger was crap because the songs dragged and there were no solos


ill admit st anger sold better then anything i could have ever written

yes it was. and why? because they had 20 years of putting out amazing hardcore rock and metal. so people bought it because they thought it would be as awesome as everything else they've put out

[Mister_Che]

^^ Good man.


Next Topic, any ideas?

[Joe]

^^ Good man.


Next Topic, any ideas?

thanks.

how about the next metallica tour??? i think it should start...now and in my backyard.

[led_zep_luvr]

thanks.

how about the next metallica tour??? i think it should start...now and in my backyard.


lol, yeah that would be great but i am thinking that they might release an album maybe towards the end of the year then go on tour

[Mister_Che]

thanks.

how about the next metallica tour??? i think it should start...now and in my backyard.

Actually it should start in my backyard. But seriously, any clue when it'll begin? I can only assume more than 2 onths from now since they are recording their next album.

[Joe]

Actually it should start in my backyard. But seriously, any clue when it'll begin? I can only assume more than 2 onths from now since they are recording their next album.

well i would assume they will tour after the next album comes out, which will probably be 1-3 years from now. last tour was my first metallica concert, i can't wait to go again

[led_zep_luvr]

well i would assume they will tour after the next album comes out, which will probably be 1-3 years from now. last tour was my first metallica concert, i can't wait to go again

you mean 1-3 months right?

[Joe]

you mean 1-3 months right?

eh depends on how long they've been working on stuff. it'll take that long if they've got a few songs done but if they don't it'll take longer

1,300 posts! does that count for anything?

[Mister_Che]

eh depends on how long they've been working on stuff. it'll take that long if they've got a few songs done but if they don't it'll take longer

1,300 posts! does that count for anything?

Someone said 1,000 posts gets you a star. Someone else said 1,000 rep points gets you a star. I believe that the rep points is what gets you stars.

[ilikeyoubetterdead]

anyone here ever given themself a tattoo?

im trying but i think im doing wrong

[munky_magik]

1,000 posts + 1,000 rep points + been a member for 3 months = 3 stars.
1,500 posts + 1,000 rep points + been a member for 3 months = 4 stars.

[Joe]

1,000 posts + 1,000 rep points + been a member for 3 months = 3 stars.
1,500 posts + 1,000 rep points + been a member for 3 months = 4 stars.

yea. not many people give out rep at all. im on 1,300+ posts and only 199 rep

[munky_magik]

A fair few people do actually give out rep. Hence why I have 3288 rep points.

[Joe]

A fair few people do actually give out rep. Hence why I have 3288 rep points.

i give out rep constantly. but not many tend to give out rep in this thread.

not many people comment either.

[munky_magik]

you only give out 2% of your total rep so with that little you're rep won't really be noticable. I always sign mine becuase I hate not knowing who I get them from, and don't want to be a hypocrite.

[Mister_Che]

i give out rep constantly. but not many tend to give out rep in this thread.

not many people comment either.

Here you go, Rep ++ :thumb:

[Joe]

you only give out 2% of your total rep so with that little you're rep won't really be noticable. I always sign mine becuase I hate not knowing who I get them from, and don't want to be a hypocrite.

true. i sign all the good rep i give out. sometimes i sign the bad rep and the other bad rep i don't sign. i mostly give out good rep though.
so wait, i only give out 4 rep? thats pretty lame...

[munky_magik]

true. i sign all the good rep i give out. sometimes i sign the bad rep and the other bad rep i don't sign. i mostly give out good rep though.
so wait, i only give out 4 rep? thats pretty lame...

this should help a bit :)

[Joe]

WHOA. you have a lot of rep...

thanks

[led_zep_luvr]

how do you give rep+?

[munky_magik]

you give rep by clicking on the little tick/cross box under their avatar.
You give positive rep for good posts, and negitive rep for idiotic posts. You don't negative rep someone because you don't agree with their opinion.

[Joe]

so now back to metallica.

what's everyones all time favorite metallica song? and why?

mine's fade to black because the lyrics and solos have a lot of soul and are really well thought out

[Leper]

so now back to metallica.

what's everyones all time favorite metallica song? and why?

mine's fade to black because the lyrics and solos have a lot of soul and are really well thought out

Disposable Heroes. Cuz IMO it's Metallica's heaviest song, and the theme of the song is so deep and full of anger.

[led_zep_luvr]

you give rep by clicking on the little tick/cross box under their avatar.
You give positive rep for good posts, and negitive rep for idiotic posts. You don't negative rep someone because you don't agree with their opinion.


is there a limit to how much rep+ you give?

and can you give rep+ to any post?

[led_zep_luvr]

so now back to metallica.

what's everyones all time favorite metallica song? and why?

mine's fade to black because the lyrics and solos have a lot of soul and are really well thought out


yea mine's fade to black too, then one :thumb:

[munky_magik]

is there a limit to how much rep+ you give?

and can you give rep+ to any post?

you can only give out so much rep in a period of 24 hours, I don't know how much. And you can rep anyone/post but not again in close sucession. so you can't rep the same person twice in a short period of time.

[metalmilitia238]

my favorite metallica song is ride the lightning i like the solos

[led_zep_luvr]

you can only give out so much rep in a period of 24 hours, I don't know how much. And you can rep anyone/post but not again in close sucession. so you can't rep the same person twice in a short period of time.


oic, how did you get those white stars?

[munky_magik]

oic, how did you get those white stars?
stars are to do with your rep.

1,000 posts, 1,000 rep points and having been a member for 3 months gives you 3 stars.
An extra 500 posts on top of that gives you 4 stars.

[led_zep_luvr]

i have -97 rep points

[Burdcheese]

Still a way to go then...
Though I'm getting there.

Favourite song: changes often - currently Call of Ktulu (S&M version); just awesome.
One is a close second

[led_zep_luvr]

^^you haven't posted here in a while^^

[JACKROXYOU]

disposable heroes or i disappear

Favs^^^

[led_zep_luvr]

fav non-metallica song?


over the hills and far away

[whatduffhuck7]

disposable heroes or i disappear

Favs^^^

what c'mon man, u gota have better thatn that crap

four horsemen, call of ktulu (s&m version, agreed with the guy up there), blackend

[JACKROXYOU]

what c'mon man, u gota have better thatn that crap

four horsemen, call of ktulu (s&m version, agreed with the guy up there), blackend

no i dont i love four horsemen but i really love diposable and i disappear

ktulu's a god **** instrumental. no ****in instrumental is gonna be my favorite

[Fernandes Power]

Woah... you dont like the Four Horsemen...?


Thats like...the song to sum up great Metallica

[killswitchlog]

i have -97 rep points

i've -93.

[Fernandes Power]

Both of you leave now, youre an embarrassment to this thread...

[Fernandes Power]

...Errrr...


Well I wasnt actually talking to you, or being too offensive... STFU

[Joe]

you gave you rights to kick people out of threads? especially one you have barely posted in

[Fernandes Power]

Although I could be rude and correct your grammar, I have to ask why none of you actually took it as a joke...? Its called being light-hearted.

Although I did partially say it because (as a Metallica fan) its a bit embarrassing to have people in here that are obviously really annoying to people in other threads (pointed out by low rep)

[Joe]

Although I could be rude and correct your grammar, I have to ask why none of you actually took it as a joke...? Its called being light-hearted.

Although I did partially say it because (as a Metallica fan) its a bit embarrassing to have people in here that are obviously really annoying to people in other threads (pointed out by low rep)

no it's ok, my grammer sucks

and i don't really mind getting a little off topic from metallica every now and then. i've been posting here for a long time and i don't know how much more there is to talk about them unless we start talking about more things from years ago. we've hit over 450 pages of metallica

[Fernandes Power]

Its hardcore stuff, for sure...


Anyone seen any Metallica cover bands?


Theres a good one...:thumb:

[Joe]

Woah... you dont like the Four Horsemen...?


Thats like...the song to sum up great Metallica

the sad thing is that Enter Sandman is what sums up great Metallica.

IMO, Seek and Destroy, One, and Master of Puppets sum up great Metallica.

Four Horsemen is also one of my least favorite Metallica songs...

[Fernandes Power]

:eek: Tut tut... 4 Horsemens amazing, I was playing it in college to annoy/amuse people today

[Joe]

:eek: Tut tut... 4 Horsemens amazing, I was playing it in college to annoy/amuse people today

how old are you??? i'm still in High School

people on my bus turn up their rap :angry: ...i was about to bring in my stereo and crank Seek and Destroy :thumb: :evil: :p :lol:

[ytsedrummer]

All hail the almighty 'Tallica. Kicks rap in the nuts.

[Fernandes Power]

I live in the UK, you start college here when youre 16 cuz its something different

[Joe]

I live in the UK, you start college here when youre 16 cuz its something different

ah ok, that's interesting. so i could be going to college next year...

[guitarcreep13]

I love fuel, although it's from Reload

[guitarcreep13]

i have a subject.
Lets talk about songs that we used to hate, but now love it.
I used to hate the four horsemen, but i now love it.
same with the call of ktulu

[Fernandes Power]

Meh, I like Load and quite a bit of ReLoad... its just their worst album is all.

Off to bed, night.

[Joe]

i have a subject.
Lets talk about songs that we used to hate, but now love it.
I used to hate the four horsemen, but i now love it.
same with the call of ktulu

i used to not like metallica when i heard sandman the first few times. then i got used to it, then friends got me onto ride the lightning and i got hooked

p.s.-try not to double post

[guitarcreep13]

i'm just startin high school, it's easy

[ytsedrummer]

Here's something I htought of last night. If you were to Metallica's last concert, what would you like to see played? It can be any amount of time you want it to be.

SET I
1. Blackened
2. The Frayed Ends Of Sanity
3. Breadfan
4. Unforgivin
5. Fade To Black
6. Frantic
7. Turn The Page
8. Some kInd Of Monster
9. The Call Of Ktulu
10. Whiplash
11. Guitar solo
12. The Four Horsemen
13. Escape
14. Battery INTERMISSION
SET II

14. The Shortest Straw
15. Master Of Puppets
16. Fuel
17. Low man's Lyric
18. Nothing Else Matters
19. Harvester Of Sorrow
20. Creeping Death
21. Ain't My Bitch
22. Until It Sleeps
23. Dirty Window
23. Enter Sandman
24. The Thing That Should Not Be
23. Leper Messiah
24. Whisky In The Jar
25. Motorbreath
26. Seek And Destroy
27. Eye Of The Beholder
28. Poor Twisted Me

ENCORES
29. Don't Tread On Me
30. One
31. To Live Is To Die
32. For Whom The Bell Tolls
33. Orion
:smoke:

[willis2441]

fav non-metallica song?


over the hills and far away
over the hills and far away is a zeppelin song man, do you even know anything about metallica?

[guitarcreep13]

what are you on?
what ever it is, you better take a lighter dosage

[MAthiAS]

over the hills and far away is a zeppelin song man, do you even know anything about metallica?
*psst*He said non-Metallica song.

[Po0sH]

over the hills and far away is a zeppelin song man, do you even know anything about metallica?
We have a genius over here.

[led_zep_luvr]

over the hills and far away is a zeppelin song man, do you even know anything about metallica?


idiot

[RideTheLighting]

We have a genius over here.

lmao :lol: nice icon!

[led_zep_luvr]

cunning stunts vs. S and M

which dvd should i get?

[Five Magics]

cunning stunts....no contest

[acdcrockr]

turn the page is a tight song by metallica

[Leper]

Metallica songs i used to hate but now like?...Hit the lights, Whiplash, Ride the Lightning, The Wait..that's all i can really think of, it was a long time ago that i didn't like these songs so im doin some hardcore backtracking here.

[metal_milita]

I've like Call of Ktulu since day one, I don't understand how you can hate it. Its so beautifuly musically structured and engineered IMO. I gotta hand it to Dave Mustaine for helping out with one of my favourite songs, although most of the song is James.

[Leper]

Call of Ktulus a pretty good song, im not a huge fan of instrumental's tho

[mprules]

best instrumental is to live is to die, argh orion also rules

[hammet_ownz]

Last Concert...

i'd have it structured like a journey from their beginnings, with Load/Reload at the end so people could go if they please lol

1. Motorbreath
2. Hit the Lights
3. Whiplash
4. No Remorse
5. The Four Horsemen
- crowd interaction -
6. Fight Fire With Fire
7. Call of Ktulu
8. Creeping Death
9. For Whom the Bell Tolls
10. Ride the Lightning


Intermission

1. Leper Messiah
2. Disposable Heroes
3. Sanitarium
4. Battery

-crowd interaction-
5. One
6. ...And Justice for All
7. Harvester of Sorrow
8. Blackened
9. To Live is to Die

Intermission

1. Nothing Else Matters
2. Enter Sandman
3. Of Wolf and Man
4. Sad but True
5. Whereever I may Roam
- crowd interaction -

Now i'd get them to play the two Unforgivens one after the other
1. The Unforgiven
2. The Unforgiven II

Now just a little bit of Load/Reload and plenty of Garage Inc.

1. Hero of the Day
2. Aint My Bitch
3. King Nothing
4. Fuel
- crowd interaction -
5. So What
6. Blitzreig
7. Last Caress
8. Turn the Page
9. Whisky in the Jar
10. Am I Evil

End

Encore
1. One
2. Master of Puppets (the full version, with all the solos)
3. Seek and Destroy (the whole version)

[Burdcheese]

^^you haven't posted here in a while^^

I've been busy - birthday, work, etc.
Looks like strange things have been happening in this thread while I was away

I need to get Kill 'Em All. Then I shall have all their albums (excluding Live ****)

[DouchePatrol]

1. Blackened
2. Trapped Under Ice
3. Metal Militia
4. Orion
5. Battery
6. Fade to Black
7. Creeping Death
8. Phantom Lord
9. No Remorse
10. Master of Puppets - only because they pretty much HAVE to play that song
11. Sanitarium
12. St. Anger - I saw that one live - you go ahead and try to tell me it sucks
13. Sad But True
14. One
15. ...And Justice for All
16. Harvester of Sorrow
17. Frayed Ends of Sanity
18. Dyers Eve
19. Damage, Inc.
20. Shortest Straw

That's like a 99% thrash set

[Joe]

I've been busy - birthday, work, etc.
Looks like strange things have been happening in this thread while I was away

I need to get Kill 'Em All. Then I shall have all their albums (excluding Live ****)

well i don't have anything after black, excluding live albums

Kill 'Em All is a lot different than Ride the Lightning, IMO. and definitely get live ****. it's a great set of concerts

[Joe]

so this past thing is making up an enormous set list for their goodbye show???

i'm at school, i'll make it this afternoon

[Burdcheese]

I've downloaded most of KEA already so I know what I'm in for - certainly different.

I certainly intend to get Live ****. Its a lot more reasonably priced now

[Joe]

ok good. KEA is a lot more thrashy metal than the kirk hammett albums. those are just metal

yea, live sh*t is a little expensive, but it's worth it

[^Dream~Theater^]

Don't forget Cunning Stunts
Nice title Caps, Rep++:)

[Fernandes Power]

To acdcrockr and lepermessiah: The Wait and Turn the page are covers :thumb:

[^Dream~Theater^]

cunning stunts vs. S and M

which dvd should i get?
S&M

[Burdcheese]

S&M is fantastic.
Get it.

Though obviously the right answer is get them all

[Fernandes Power]

They arent similar, so you cant compare which one you should get... IMO Hetfield is FAR MORE on form in S&M than Cunning Stunts

[KILO5203]

i have a subject.
Lets talk about songs that we used to hate, but now love it.
I used to hate the four horsemen, but i now love it.
same with the call of ktulu
I used to hate the album st anger just like everyone else, but now i like it. i think people who hate st anger should at least check out the unnamed feeling.

[Leper]

To acdcrockr and lepermessiah: The Wait and Turn the page are covers :thumb:

Yes thank you captain obvious. Covers still apply to the topic.

[FFbassist26]

i used to hate most of st anger, but then i saw some live, it kicked ***.

[Leper]

i used to hate most of st anger, but then i saw some live, it kicked ***.

Ya even the St. Anger tracks were pretty sweet in concert. I really don't understand tho why fans of St. Anger are so fond of The Unnamed Feeling. IMO this isn't a very good song, but maybe that's because im not a fan of St. Anger in general.

[Leper]

^^ ^^
Some Kind of Monster too.

[munky_magik]

Try the edit button sometime.

[Joe]

To acdcrockr and lepermessiah: The Wait and Turn the page are covers :thumb:

...and we were talking about covers

[Leper]

Try the edit button sometime.

How silly of me, thanks for the reminder.

[Mister_Che]

Thought you guys might like this:

http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/

Scroll to the bottom and click on the different forum characters. We've all seen people like this before.

[JACKROXYOU]

Woah... you dont like the Four Horsemen...?


Thats like...the song to sum up great Metallica

i love four horsemen

i said i dont have to include call of ktulu

[Mister_Che]

Does anybody else prefer James' voice live than in the studio?

[munky_magik]

I wouldn't say that there's a whole lot of difference between them.

[Mister_Che]

I think the most prominent example would be Master of Puppets. his vox on S&M sounded better in my opinion.

[munky_magik]

I forgot about his earlier vocals. But once his voice matured it was pretty much the same in the stucio and live.

[^Dream~Theater^]

Metallica are one of those bands that sound just as good live as they do studio. Bothers me when bands can't pull off their songs live..sounds horrible.

[Mister_Che]

Metallica are one of those bands that sound just as good live as they do studio. Bothers me when bands can't pull off their songs live..sounds horrible.

Instument wise they do a good job. Better in most cases. Same with vocals. But does anybody else get turned off when he sings Nothing Else Matters? I don't like it much live.


Hey Dream, I'm planning on getting a Dream Theater CD today after work, anything you can recommend?

[munky_magik]

Try Scenes from a Memory. or maybe Awake.
If you like heavy shreddy stuff get Train of Thought.


EDIT: just for the record, I do realise that I'm not DT. I just felt like answering

[Mister_Che]

Try Scenes from a Memory. or maybe Awake.
If you like heavy shreddy stuff get Train of Thought.

Maybe I'll get them all! Thanks bud.

[Joe]

Metallica are one of those bands that sound just as good live as they do studio. Bothers me when bands can't pull off their songs live..sounds horrible.

very true. the only thing differently nowadays is that hetfield is getting older so his vocals aren't as great as they were 20 years ago, but the music is still as good/better than the studio

[Joe]

Thought you guys might like this:

http://www.politicsforum.org/images/flame_warriors/

Scroll to the bottom and click on the different forum characters. We've all seen people like this before.

that was pretty odd/random...

[Burdcheese]

Try Scenes from a Memory. or maybe Awake.
If you like heavy shreddy stuff get Train of Thought.


Train of Thought is next on my DT buying list, though I want them all eventually.

very true. the only thing differently nowadays is that hetfield is getting older so his vocals aren't as great as they were 20 years ago, but the music is still as good/better than the studio

I personally think that Hetfield's voice sounded best on the Load era albums. In the earlier days his voice was too high, and now its starting to be more limited. But on Load/Reload/Garage Inc./S&M he has both a gravity and a maturity

[Burdcheese]

that was pretty odd/random...

Yeah I thought so too

[Mister_Che]

Random indeed, but it's pretty interesting to go "Holy crap, there ARE people like that."








meh....

[JACKROXYOU]

yea so anyways has any one seen the videos on launch there some good ones

[Mister_Che]

I would, but my work pc has no speakers. :smash:

[JACKROXYOU]

hahaha good work you aint got one at home?

[Mister_Che]

hahaha good work you aint got one at home?

again I say, :smash:

[Fight_Fire_with_fire]

Master of Puppets is such an amazing song. I love the thrashy feel to it.


I'd say one of Metallica's Thrashiest songs would have to be disposable heros.

[metallicamaniac16]

I think the most prominent example would be Master of Puppets. his vox on S&M sounded better in my opinion.
I think James's voice sounds a whole lot better in the studio. His voice is much more (how do i say this to make it sound right?) rough and hardcore in the studio. In concert he doesn't sing as forcefully as he does in the studio. Please let me know if anyone understood that. :thumb:

[led_zep_luvr]

I think James's voice sounds a whole lot better in the studio. His voice is much more (how do i say this to make it sound right?) rough and hardcore in the studio. In concert he doesn't sing as forcefully as he does in the studio. Please let me know if anyone understood that. :thumb:


i did :wave:

[Po0sH]

I'd say one of Metallica's Thrashiest songs would have to be disposable heros.
Definitely. That is one amazing song.

[broadiscool]

metallica is the best band ever. they have the best medleys and riffs ever. ive had an encounter with the band and they are all real nice guys and should deserve a lot of credit. My favourite songs are: Battery, sanitarium, nmater of puppets and seek and destroy

[Rasta Rocker]

congratulations

[led_zep_luvr]

metallica is the best band ever. they have the best medleys and riffs ever. ive had an encounter with the band and they are all real nice guys and should deserve a lot of credit. My favourite songs are: Battery, sanitarium, nmater of puppets and seek and destroy

:rolleyes:

[metal_milita]

you're rolling ur eyes at a perfectly legit, and encouraged post, whats up your ***??

[Zed_Leppelin]

you're rolling ur eyes at a perfectly legit, and encouraged post, whats up your ***??


a rather large pineapple.

[metal_milita]

We can only hope thats what he thought or meant^

[jonoslennos]

whod agree that one is their best evr, and what album does every1 rekn is best?id say s&m

[KILO5203]

whod agree that one is their best evr, and what album does every1 rekn is best?id say s&m
hard to say. the first four albums are equally good in my opinion.

[metal_milita]

if you don't want to get *** flamed around here, make the effort to spell (good tip)

One isn't their best IMO. Should be something like Ride the Lightning or MOP.
Can't say anything about their DVD's tho, i've only seen Cliff 'Em All.

[Leper]

IMO their best album is MOP, no contest.

[Freezing Moon]

I'd have to say I like MOP the best, but I respect Ride The Lightning the most out of them all because it was the first metal album I owned. My tastes have expanded, but I still respect the hell out of that album for getting me into metal.

[Leper]

What's the general opinion on how long a noob is a noob before he/she is no longer a noob?...if that made any sense..

[Huber]

I used to like MOP the best. Now I'm starting to lean towards RTL more. I don't know. I guess it isn't important. There all amazing albums.

[hammet_ownz]

i like kill em all better, but i love creeping death, fade to black and bells from RTL
from there it seemed the albums just had four or five amazing songs and the others were just filling the space

[acefrehleyjendell]

hey guys. i don't know the whole metallica fan stance on this but do any of
you guys like megadeth? i'm not into that whole fued thing and i reckon there a kick *** band.

i also love 'Tallica. My favourite album would be Kill 'EM All.

[acefrehleyjendell]

I used to like MOP the best. Now I'm starting to lean towards RTL more. I don't know. I guess it isn't important. There all amazing albums.

I thought the black album was kinda pompous.
I actually liked Re-Load better than Black.

[munky_magik]

What's the general opinion on how long a noob is a noob before he/she is no longer a noob?...if that made any sense..

you get two kinds.
a newb = someone who is new to the board.
a n00b = an idiotic poster, who doesn't know/care about any of the rules and can't type properly.

[smellslikeshoes]

Hey guys I just wanted to post this link. Some guys have put together a petition calling for metallica to sever their working releationship with Bob rock http://www.petitiononline.com/SaveMet/

[munky_magik]

what's the point? If 'tallica want to keep working with Bob Rock then the fans should respect their desires and just ****ing deal with it. I mean how ridiculosly petty minded can you get?

[floyd.the.barber]

i hope the next album is better than st anger, the songs on that go on too long and get annoying :wave:

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

"The thing that should not be" and "Of Wolf and man" sound very simular...

Sanatarium sounds alot like bleak

[acefrehleyjendell]

"The thing that should not be" and "Of Wolf and man" sound very simular...

Sanatarium sounds alot like bleak

yeah and the intro to sandman sounds like wherever i may roam

[Chu]

Best albums:
Ride The Lightning:
Just every song on this album is amazing, one of the only albums I can listen to the whole way through and not skip a second of the music. Great album 10/10
Kill em All:
Great album, definately one of my favourites, I love each song on this album, but, unfortunately, it gets a little old to me, so I find myself skipping songs... Another great album 7.5/10
Master of Puppets:
A great album - Metallica's best? No. Although this album is amazing in every way that Ride The Lightning is, if not more, but I find myself listenning to Ride The Lightning more. Every song on this album is a masterpiece, but they should have finished the album with an instrumental (Like Ride The Lightning :P) instead of having Damage, Inc after... :( 9/10

Heh, sorry, it's late I can't sleep, or maybe I can now...

[AJ Frampton]

The only song after black album that I like is The Unforgiven II, the rest sound ****ty to me..

[Shred Danson]

i hope the next album is better than st anger, the songs on that go on too long and get annoying :wave:

The songs are the same length as Metallica's older stuff. Do you think their work on AJFA, MOP, KEM, or RTL was boring?

[Leper]

speaking of songs sounding similar, anyone ever noticed that blackened and battery are very similar? My cousin and I call them the sister songs. lol

[Mister_Che]

Fade to Black, One, and Sanitarium all use the same chord in the intro/beginning.

[munky_magik]

Generally every Metallica song is written in the same key.

[Mister_Che]

Sounds like it.

[Fernandes Power]

Nah...not every. Just many...

E and F are the most common Metallica chords.

[Mister_Che]

Yep I noticed, hell Lars was ready to sue some canadian band for using the E chord too much.

"We're known for using the E chord."

[munky_magik]

Was that sarcasm?

[Fernandes Power]

...No, that was some joke started after he sued napster... that they were sueing some canadian band over use of those chords.

[munky_magik]

I know, I saw the joke site. I was just wondering If Mr. Che knew it was a joke :)

[clown_phobia]

Ride The Lightning is my opinion has too many filler tracks to be a great album.

[Fernandes Power]

:lol: Lol evidently not

[Fernandes Power]

Ride The Lightning is my opinion has too many filler tracks to be a great album.

Are you mad?!

Which ones do you like and which do you consider fillers? :amaze:

[Mister_Che]

I know, I saw the joke site. I was just wondering If Mr. Che knew it was a joke :)

Actually I didn't, considering I skimmed the article on whatever site I found it on eons ago. So now for my ignorance...

*Dips his head in acid

[jonoslennos]

I thought the black album was kinda pompous.
I actually liked Re-Load better than Black.

i c iv bn overuled by every1, i can take but im still stikn 2 s&M, anyway i actually thought that load and reload wer both pretty bad compared 2 the uthrs

[Burdcheese]

Fade to Black, One, and Sanitarium all use the same chord in the intro/beginning.

I was going to say that, but this history essay got in the way.

Filler tracks on RTL: Trapped under Ice and Escape.
Not classics like every other song on the album.


I need sleep :upset:

[Burdcheese]

i c iv bn overuled by every1, i can take but im still stikn 2 s&M, anyway i actually thought that load and reload wer both pretty bad compared 2 the uthrs

For God's sake, type properly!

Thank you

[Mister_Che]

i c iv bn overuled by every1, i can take but im still stikn 2 s&M, anyway i actually thought that load and reload wer both pretty bad compared 2 the uthrs

Come now, good sir. This isn't a race to see who can type the fastest. Take your time and type out words so noone mistakes you for a 9 year old.




























You are over 9 right?

[Fernandes Power]

I was going to say that, but this history essay got in the way.

Filler tracks on RTL: Trapped under Ice and Escape.
Not classics like every other song on the album.


I need sleep :upset:

Fair enough, but like you said... all the others are classics :thumb:

James hates Escape and Jump in The Fire :lol: Watch Live **** to see what I mean

[Mister_Che]

Fair enough, but like you said... all the others are classics :thumb:

James hates Escape and Jump in The Fire :lol: Watch Live **** to see what I mean

Everyone in the band hated Kirk's Unforgiven solo when he first played it for him.

[Fernandes Power]

Very true.

Kirk wrote the Enter Sandman riff, dontcha know...

[btoto]

Fernandes Power,
-----------------

I have Live $hit, where does he say that he hates Jump In The Fire???

[Fernandes Power]

Before one of the songs later on (I think its Master of Puppets) Kirk and Lars play the opening of both and James is just like "Haha, shut the hell up... dont play none of that pop s'hit"

[clown_phobia]

To:* James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich, Kirk Hammett, and Robert Trujillo of Metallica, Metallica Inc., and Q. Prime Inc.

Attention: James Hetfield, Lars Ulrich, Kirk Hammett, and Robert Trujillo of Metallica, Metallica Inc., and Q. Prime Inc.

We, the longtime loyal fans and friends of Metallica and their music would like to see a major change with the upcoming album. I know it will be a hard thing to do, but we feel it is time to sever your working relationship with Bob Rock.

Don’t get us wrong, some of us like a few (very few) contributions Bob Rock has made to Metallica. Unfortunately one thing we can all agree on is nothing has been the same since he joined the ranks as longtime Metallica producer. We are not criticizing Bob Rock on his technical skills as he has mastered his sound. We just feel that his contributions to help craft a Metallica song are quite wrong and have been getting worse as time goes on.

From Kill’em All through …And Justice For All, the albums are timeless and we can listen to them over and over. Although Bob Rock’s first producing effort with Metallica, “The Black Album”, may have sold the most copies worldwide, it doesn’t mean the album is the most musically pleasing. As much as we support Metallica, most of us listen to the first few albums much more. The songs were simple and overproduced.

Load and Reload were examples of not having any control. The music was all over the place and Bob Rock went with the same sound plan as he has done for all of Metallica’s albums. We heard this sound yet again on the first disc of Garage Inc. We have watched the videos of Bob Rock telling Metallica horrible suggestions in the studios while we cringe knowing it is the wrong decision. Keep in mind, Bob Rock was in a band or two himself when he was younger. The reason no one knows this is because his bands failed because he cannot craft a good song let alone a help craft a good Metallica song.

Then we are left with St. Anger. It is completely unlistenable and this is the album that Bob Rock had most of his influence. Not only in production but the songs are all a mess as well. Every song could be cut down by about 3-5 minutes simply by cutting out most of the repetition. Bob Rock didn’t realize that repetition of one riff over and over for 10 minutes doesn’t make a song a pleasingly structured song. The sound, as everyone can agree, did not break any musical barriers, it just made the album worse. Even Bob Rock can do better than this.

We understand and appreciate the time and effort Bob Rock has put into Metallica. By your own admission, you state Metallica is a hard band to work with. We appreciate him being there to keep the band together at a personal low point of their career to help them carry on as a four piece. But we feel the day has come.

We are excited to hear the next studio album with the addition of masterful bassist Robert Trujillo. We hope it breathes new songwriting life into the band. All we ask is you take our suggestion seriously for the sake of the band and your fans. Please end your working relationship with Bob Rock as producer and let’s enter into a new phase for Metallica.

Thank you,
Your Loyal and Loving Fans

Sincerely,

The Undersigned

http://www.petitiononline.com/SaveMet/
Click ^^here to sign the petition.

[Fernandes Power]

Haha... that will do nothing but send them back into therapy or something...


I think its pretty stupidly written, especially because they speak as if they have a god-like influence "We feel the day has come"

And stating themselves as Metallicas fans and not Some of Metallicas fans...

[btoto]

Before one of the songs later on (I think its Master of Puppets) Kirk and Lars play the opening of both and James is just like "Haha, shut the hell up... dont play none of that pop s'hit"

Uhhh, thanks man. I should check it out

[Mister_Che]

I could never sign that petition up there.

[btoto]

I found this letter some time ago in a met-fan site. I don't remember which one. I just remember that I liked it and decided save to my PC. I hope the author won't get angry if I copy it here. It just found it so sincere when I read it. Anyway, here you go:

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"I thank all of you that have visited my site in the past, but I have indefinitely destroyed it, and perhaps the following will explain why.

AN OPEN LETTER TO JAMES, LARS, KIRK, AND ROB OF METALLICA


To Metallica: There are many questions which need answering, so please read this entire letter.

I have stuck with Metallica for years, shunning the derision of anti-Metallica fans and X-Metallica fans who upheld the idea that you had sold out. I stuck with you through Load and Reload, two albums that people accused of being too mellow and not metal enough. I stuck with you through the Napster fiasco, upholding your views as just. I fought to defend the fact that anti-Metallica fans were nothing but ridiculous malcontents that had no true arguments against you.

For years I anticipated a new album, and when the date came near, you informed the world that St. Anger would be a return to the old school ways, a revamping of your image and the best album since KEA.

Then the album came out.

Hmmm.

You're kidding right? This is what I waited for for 5 years? This is what you call Metallica? This is what you call music that equates with KEA and AJFA?

I listened to the first 3 songs. "Ok," I thought. "Any minute now, Hammett's going to start doing something." Four more songs past...still nothing. Starting to get nervous, I checked my car stereo, making sure everything was functioning properly. "Lars drumming couldn't possibly be this bad," I thought. Then the cd reset and the first track played again. I sat for a moment in somewhat of a daze.

This was supposed to be your comeback to metal? Why didn't Kirk do anything in the entire album? Why were there no solos? Why did Lars sound like he was beating an empty trashcan instead of a snare drum? Why did the album sound like it was produced by a complete amateur?

Have you really stooped this low, Metallica?

Even when I heard of the horrendously ****ty bands you had chosen to play with you on the Sanitarium tour, I gave you a chance. Why are you touring with rap bands? Why are you trying to reach the wrong audiences? Why are you endorsing bands that couldn't play a decent song to save their lives?

But most importantly, why is St. Anger so horrificly terrible? Look back twenty years ago. Look at how you were in your youth. If I went back in time and played this album for your younger selves, would you really approve of it? How can you live with yourselves knowing that you can no longer even compose a guitar solo anymore?

There is one thing you could have done to redeem yourselves from the travesty that is St. Anger: you could have dropped the name Metallica and rennamed the band, then formed Metallica again and recorded a real album.

There is no excuse for how horrible St. Anger is and you should be ashamed of yourselves for creating such an anti-thesis to the creative muscial vision you created so long ago.

You, Metallica, taught the world what metal was. If it weren't for you, we would still be listening to hair bands and hippy music. You ushered in a grand new era and created something special.

And now, you have destroyed your own vision. I'm sure the money is ****ing great, but you sold your souls to get it. All the money in the world cannot cover the filth that you have defecated upon us. I still refuse to stoop to the level of calling you "sell outs." You are something worse than sell outs. Something I can't even find a word for.

It's pitiful that this is what you have become, and as a long-time Metallica fan, it pains me to say that. But it pains me more to have witnessed it.

You were once musicians. You are no longer. You were once creative. You are no longer. You were once worth defending. You are no more. You were once visionaries. You are no more. You were once worth paying attention to. You are no more. You were once distinctive from an otherwise pathetic genre of uninventive and brainless, generic rock music. You are no more.

You have destroyed your image beyond repair, and now there may be nothing you can do to redeem yourselves. Correction: there is something you can do. Just follow these instructions.

(Note: I wrote this when the album was released, so it's out of date, but the general ideas still hold true.)

FIRST: drop the gay-*** rap bands from the bill of the Sanitarium tour. Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park are the worst things to drip out of the *** of the music world in over 10 years. If you must, play alone, because you'll still make just as much money in tour values.

SECOND: Stop all production of St. Anger albums. The album's already been out for days, so the damage is done, but you can still help...

THIRD: Go back into the studio, delete all the songs.

FOURTH: Fire Bob Rock and hire someone who knows what he's doing, because obviously Bob had his eyes and ears closed on this one.

FIFTH: Keep the ideas for the songs you had, just adjust Lars' snare drum so it doesn't sound like he's beating a **** trashcan.

SIXTH: Write some creative music like you used to even as late as Load and Reload. Give Kirk something to do. You can't tell me for one minute that the man who plays the solos on Jump in the Fire, One, and Dyers Eve can't even write ONE new original guitar solo.

KIRK, YOU USED TO BE A GREAT GUITAR PLAYER. WHAT IN THE HELL HAPPENED TO YOU??? NOT EVEN ONE GODDAMM SOLO ON THE NEW ALBUM??? NOT EVEN ONE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

SEVENTH: Write a formal apology to the entire metal community for releasing an album like St. Anger, and top off the apology by releasing the REAL album that you created by following my steps.

Good God. I can't believe what you have done, Metallica. That's all I'm going to write. I usually go out on a rigid and uncensored outrage when I write essays like this, but your crime is so horrendous, that you're not worth another moment of my time.

Thanks for reading. Now fix the ungodly mess you have made. "

[Fernandes Power]

Wow... he kinda needs to get a life...

[btoto]

I agree with the author in a few things though. Mostly I disagree about St.Anger.

[^Dream~Theater^]

That fan has some issues but brings up some good points

[Mister_Che]

That fan has some issues but brings up some good points

This is what I wanted to say. True his paper is well composed, but deep down, he sounds like a noob here. I think he just doesn't understand that this is their most personal work yet. I agree with him about Lars' drums though.

[^Dream~Theater^]

He's just mad because Metallica did something that he didn't like. Boo Hoo, maybe he should go cry somewhere. If Metallica wants to make music like that then it's their choice, like it or don't listen, Complaining solves nothing.

[metal_milita]

Thats a fan??

Was Metallica created to impress us?? him??

What the **** makes him think hes so high and mighty and he knows everything?? I disagree with that article 110%. He calls himself a "true metallica fan." What a ****ing critisizer. I prefer Metallica doing what they want to do because that means they are true to themselves and not selling out to get their old fans (who are accusing them of selling out because they canged their music to MAYBE get new fans). Metallica is made of human beings, not ****ing machines.

[metal_milita]

However. it was very poetic and brilliant in its language, credit for that.

[Joe]

Wow... he kinda needs to get a life...

yea he sure had a lot of time to think about that. but i really agree on a lot of that letter

[Joe]

Everyone in the band hated Kirk's Unforgiven solo when he first played it for him.

that surprised me the first time i heard it. the Unforgiven solo is one of the coolest metallica solos i've ever heard

[RiceMonster]

that surprised me the first time i heard it. the Unforgiven solo is one of the coolest metallica solos i've ever heard
I agree, I really like that solo.

[Joe]

I agree, I really like that solo.

Out of all of them it's probably one of the most original i've heard from kirk

[JACKROXYOU]

wow that guy had a lot of time on his hands

i wonder how his tan is goin

[Joe]

wow that guy had a lot of time on his hands

i wonder how his tan is goin

Haha

Where you been? It seems as if I'm slowly gaining on your postcount in this thread...

Why did they not have any solos? Why isn't Bob Rock gone?

[JACKROXYOU]

i have a life sorry (just kidding i dont)

why no solos? cause kirk was savin for the miawtwt

duh

[metal_milita]

I didn't get the joke... ****.

Live **** Binge and Purge part 2 98.17% complete....... for 2 ****ING WEEKS! Its annoying me now.

But that guy is not a fan

[metal_milita]

Lars told Kirk not to put any solo's because "it was old and dead."

[JACKROXYOU]

im guessing your downloading it

i think the guy just got drunk and wrote his brains out

[bob the ripper apple.]

binge and purge is a good dvd set .

[metal_milita]

Nope he sounds very much sober for that style of writing. He just .... had lots and lots and lots of spare time.

[JACKROXYOU]

Lars told Kirk not to put any solo's because "it was old and dead."

really? :lol:

lars poll numbers are goin down

[metal_milita]

Excuse me for my ignorance, but what sparked all the hatred towards Lars?? Supposedly it was fine until Napster, and certain quotes totally ruined it.

[JACKROXYOU]

yea people try to look at a good band and say "ok whos the jerk/basterd/greedy ****"

its natural

my opinion i dont give a ****! a brotha got make some cash

[HeRoOfThEdAy1589]

i havent been in here for months but this "petition" jsut came out today n im not sure if some one has touched base on this or not. But metallica fans are signing this petition to get rid of bob rock. personally im for it even though he produced the black album. dont get me wrong i love load n re-load n sum of st anger, but come on.. since he came its been down hill. i wouldnt be sad to see him go.......BRING BACK FLEMMING!!!!

[Erquiagu28]

Let me tell you a little about MetallicA´s destiny:
As I see it, they will record their last album, which will contain the greatest songs of their entire history. It will be a double-cd or triple-cd album. After that, they´ll go on tour, the "So Goodbye Tour 2007"(jajaja). It will be the best tour.
By 2008, MetallicA will be retired. Lars will be teaching is son how to master the drums, like his daddy. James will be taking his daughter to kindergarden and Kirk will be surfing in Hawai or Australia. Of course, Rob will keep playing with Ozzy.
I would like to hear all your opinions. You can write me to: erquiagu28@hotmail.com

[JACKROXYOU]

Let me tell you a little about MetallicA´s destiny:
As I see it, they will record their last album, which will contain the greatest songs of their entire history. It will be a double-cd or triple-cd album. After that, they´ll go on tour, the "So Goodbye Tour 2007"(jajaja). It will be the best tour.
By 2008, MetallicA will be retired. Lars will be teaching is son how to master the drums, like his daddy. James will be taking his daughter to kindergarden and Kirk will be surfing in Hawai or Australia. Of course, Rob will keep playing with Ozzy.
I would like to hear all your opinions. You can write me to: erquiagu28@hotmail.com


that is almost the stupidist thing ive ever heard

you think they'll go on a farewell tour in 2007?!?!

i guess we'll see

[ThrashMaster27]

Master the Drums like his Daddy?

Hahaha. Sorry, had to laugh.

[Huber]

Let me tell you a little about MetallicA´s destiny:
As I see it, they will record their last album, which will contain the greatest songs of their entire history. It will be a double-cd or triple-cd album. After that, they´ll go on tour, the "So Goodbye Tour 2007"(jajaja). It will be the best tour.
By 2008, MetallicA will be retired. Lars will be teaching is son how to master the drums, like his daddy. James will be taking his daughter to kindergarden and Kirk will be surfing in Hawai or Australia. Of course, Rob will keep playing with Ozzy.
I would like to hear all your opinions. You can write me to: erquiagu28@hotmail.com

If I had a nickel for everytime James has said "we aren't done yet," I'd have a fortune. Your thesis is incorrect.

[metal_milita]

woah leave the guy alone, hes predicting not fcuking making a prophecy.

[Huber]

thesis /= prophecy

I didn't exaggerate.

[led_zep_luvr]

Let me tell you a little about MetallicA´s destiny:
As I see it, they will record their last album, which will contain the greatest songs of their entire history. It will be a double-cd or triple-cd album. After that, they´ll go on tour, the "So Goodbye Tour 2007"(jajaja). It will be the best tour.
By 2008, MetallicA will be retired. Lars will be teaching is son how to master the drums, like his daddy. James will be taking his daughter to kindergarden and Kirk will be surfing in Hawai or Australia. Of course, Rob will keep playing with Ozzy.
I would like to hear all your opinions. You can write me to: erquiagu28@hotmail.com


your mother :thumb:

[Freezing Moon]

Lars will be teaching is son how to master the drums, like his daddy.

Hahaha :lol:

....Nice Prophecy..... :amaze:

I doubt they're going to produce their best ever, since they haven't been great for such a long time.

[hammet_ownz]

i agree with led zep luvr

your mother mate, if they go on a final tour in 2007 im gunna come and kick your a$$

man o man am i kicking myself for not going and seeing them at the big day out 2004, they wont come back to australia for quite some time i am thinking...

[munky_magik]

A little late, But seriously...how rediculously petty minded can their "fans" be? Basically what they're saying is: "We don't like the music you're playing, so change it so we're happy. We know fine well it was your choice to create it but let's kick Bob Rock out instead".
As I said before if they were proper fans then they would respect the band's wishes to go on and create the music that they like. They might not like the music, but getting a ****ing petition to get the band, who are known for doing as they please, to go back to their old sound is just unbelivably ****ing moronic.

[Joe]

that is almost the stupidist thing ive ever heard

you think they'll go on a farewell tour in 2007?!?!

i guess we'll see

no they wont! they're going to be aerosmith and rolling stones, they're going to be rocking out on stage and have heart attacks when they're 80. the farewell tour will NOT be any sooner thatn 2010

[floyd.the.barber]

metallica would be better if there songs werent so long :wave:

[MetalCycon]

lol? one of the most things i like is, that metallica doesnt make just ****ty-3minute-music. :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

[JH LU KH RT]

Whats the deal the "the ecstasy of gold"?

Who is it originally by and how long have they been playing it before there concertS?

[Burdcheese]

Its originally by Ennio Morricone from The Good, The Bad and The Ugly soundtrack

[Bartender]

Ennio Morricone's awesome.

[btoto]

I prefer Metallica doing what they want to do because that means they are true to themselves and not selling out to get their old fans (who are accusing them of selling out because they canged their music to MAYBE get new fans)

Very well said, man :thumb:

[Bartender]

^That doesn't make any sense, though. It's looking at the concept of selling out backwards, somewhat. Congratulating them for not selling out to get back their old fans is stupid, as they shouldn't (in the old fans eyes) have put themselves in a position where they lost the old fans in the first place.

[Iceman-rocker]

here, its simple.

metallica made pretty average decent metal at a time when there werent that many popular metal bands. they rise to fame. they make a couple albums, bassist dies, they get sad, they get better, make a few more. then they get bored. so they widen the style based influnces. this new type of music is easier for them to write, so they make plenty of songs. people dont enjoy the new music as much, and accuse them of making songs just to make money and sell albums, they lose fans, they gain fans. st. anger once again they try something new. and once again people accuse them of selling out. heres a debate for you, which do u like more, load/reload? or st. anger?

[JH LU KH RT]

St anger is a million times better....
The riffs are better then length is better and they rock harder!

[Leper]

Load/Reload because of Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn, and Fuel.

[Mister_Che]

Load/Reload because of Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn, and Fuel.

Amen good sir.

[RNR]

So umm, yeah you have to be pretty easily amused to like St. Anger.

[munky_magik]

So umm, yeah you have to be pretty easily amused to like St. Anger.

:rolleyes:
Get out of here Emo kid :p

[Sandtrap]

This girl was telling me she like Metllica and all this ****, and was telling me her favorite song was about a snake...what?

Im a Metallica Fan from the 80s so I dont know what the **** shes talking about...does anyone else know what shes talking about?

[Jimmy]

Yeah, she's talking about how girls don't know **** about good music.

[Sandtrap]

she said it was a acoustic song...I almost possitive its not from the 80s!

[Mister_Che]

Yeah, she's talking about how girls don't know **** about good music.

How very educated of you to say that.

[Mister_Che]

Sandtrap, heres my conclusion:

She saw the cover to the Black Album, saw the snake, and assumed there was an acoustic song about a snake on it.

Or there might be a song about a snake out there I don't know.

[Sandtrap]

does anyone know what song shes talking bout?

[btoto]

Maybe she said "Mama Said" but you were a bit drunk and thought it was "snake" :thumb:

[RNR]

:rolleyes:
Get out of here Emo kid :p

I would like to know how my emoness is relevant here.

[MaCkCiTy]

Wouldnt she be talking about Slither... "Dont go looking for snakes you may find them..."
Although wot the hell are u doing talking to a girl about music, that just makes u want to head butt them... I got this one skank that come round and keeps asking me to play "Metallica - Under my bed" after a few minutes of wtf are talking about i work out she wants Sandman... Girls are good for one thing, its just to bad they dont often enough think im good for the same thing...

[metalli_freak89]

vvv

[clown_phobia]

Who played bass in their february '87 shows?

[Joe]

Sandtrap, heres my conclusion:

She saw the cover to the Black Album, saw the snake, and assumed there was an acoustic song about a snake on it.

Or there might be a song about a snake out there I don't know.

why would you assume that??? that's a stupid assumption

[metal_milita]

"Don't tread on me"? maybe thats the song, but im not sure. I don't even know if thats even a song, or if its about a snake. I may as well have not posted this.

But about selling out, their old fans accused them of selling out because Metallica did not do what "they" wanted them to do (Do not incorporate soft music or even experiment with it). Metallica stayed true to themselves and left for softer rock, something they said they would do during MOP. Well, now if that fan wants them to come back to Metal and "un-sell out," well that just constitutes the definition of selling out again no??
(background info about how I'm grounding this) Selling Out (to me) is to do what the fans want you to do instead of listening to yourself.

[Joe]

"Don't tread on me"? maybe thats the song, but im not sure. I don't even know if thats even a song, or if its about a snake. I may as well have not posted this.

But about selling out, their old fans accused them of selling out because Metallica did not do what "they" wanted them to do (Do not incorporate soft music or even experiment with it). Metallica stayed true to themselves and left for softer rock, something they said they would do during MOP. Well, now if that fan wants them to come back to Metal and "un-sell out," well that just constitutes the definition of selling out again no??
(background info about how I'm grounding this) Selling Out (to me) is to do what the fans want you to do instead of listening to yourself.


Yea whats the big deal about selling out? Metallica made decisions they wanted to make, not what their fans wanted them to make. reps to metal man above

[Joe]

nvm, i'll rep you when i can again

[Joe]

nice double post...

i don't make it that big of a deal. so what if they have a music video?

[Joe]

oh thanks

yea the only ones i've actually seen are Whiskey in the Jar and One

[metal_milita]

^^ What are you talking about? Music videos and double posts??

[willis2441]

Load/Reload because of Bleeding Me, Outlaw Torn, and Fuel.
dont forget until it sleeps and king nothing

[bonhams_alive]

amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)

check out
damage inc. - master of puppets
creeping death-ride the lightning
fight fire with fire-ride the lightning
four horsemen-kill em all
motor breath-kill em all
and thats to just name a few and you gotta check out garage inc. its awesome

[Joe]

^^ What are you talking about? Music videos and double posts??

yea...it's a little random, but yes

[Joe]

amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with


it's not "the one" it's one

and every metallica song i've heard is about 100x better than decent, but here are my favs

Sad but True- Black
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)- Master of Puppets
Disposable Heros- MOP
Orion- MOP
Damage Inc.- MOP
...And Justice for All- ...And Justice for All

and about 50 others i don't feel like listing

[JonG]

So far, I haven't got into Metallica, except 2 songs..the softest(I think)..

Fade To Black
Nothing Else Matters

Great songs, learning them on the guitar right now..any other of the same level that aren't the Enter Sandman type..

[Huber]

You might like there instrumentals:

Call of Ktulu
To Live Is To Die
Orion

[Joe]

So far, I haven't got into Metallica, except 2 songs..the softest(I think)..

Fade To Black
Nothing Else Matters

Great songs, learning them on the guitar right now..any other of the same level that aren't the Enter Sandman type..

You'd like "The Unforgiven" and "Welcome Home (Sanitarium)" if you like they're softer stuff. they both get pretty heavy, but it's similar to fade to black. easy intro- amazing in the middle and amazing solos