Metallica Inc.

[Jon]

Just wondering, why don't Metallica usually play Leper Messiah live?

[kirk_wylde]

I wouldn't go saying that. A lot of their lyrics dig really deep and I think that that's good, it can bring the fans closer to them and them closer to the fans if you catch my drift. St. Anger wasn't all bad, it was just not what people had expected. So yea.

Well said

[bball_1523]

Just wondering, why don't Metallica usually play Leper Messiah live?


They played Leper Messiah at the fillmore show, but I don't know why they don't add it to their regular set list. I think it's a great song.

[Brahm_K]

Everyone hates St. Anger but if you think about it is pretty good compared to the rest of the stuff they have now
true its not better then the rest of the 80's rock but its pretty good compared to the songs they have now

Compared to a lot of mainstream stuff, its ok, good. Compared to a lot of underground bands, it isn't so good.

[kirk_wylde]

Yeah It's pretty good but I think they should play the Whole of seek and destroy more often, not just in the medely

Ahh two more to go and this thread will be the grand old age of 40 pages

[kirk_wylde]

*bump*

[superpeer]

IMO, yeah they are.

I like Kirks experimental side. Its really cool. They are good quality cds. But if your expecting thrash or metal, then don't bother.


No, that's not necessary, I like all music with guitars in it.
So yeah, I'll probably like them.

I'll add them to the *sigh* endless list of cd's to buy

[superpeer]

By the way, everyone feel very sorry for me
because Metallica is finally coming to Belgium and
-_____- I don't have tickets and two of my friends are going
TOMORROW.
And i'll be at home, being sad, because i'm missing one of my favourite bands playing live.

Woe is me. :(

[Jon]

OK, I'll feel sorry for you on Saturday when I'm at Earls Court headbanging to the greatest Thrash band in existance :P

Sorry about that...

[NailHead]

Compared to a lot of mainstream stuff, its ok, good. Compared to a lot of underground bands, it isn't so good.
This is so very true

[Kaden]

What a great thread:)

[NailHead]

yes, I know it's a great thread.

[PimpDaddyKabZ]

Wow.....can't believe I haven't posted in this thread yet.

I really wished Metallica would put out a studio version of -Human, and No Leaf Clover.
Anyone know if they played any of those live without the orchestra?

[NailHead]

i don't know?

[timmccarty143]

if u listen to it no leaf clover w/o the symphony would suck b/c theres less "stuff" in it
and it would aslo be sweet cuz the symphonic stuffs gay (exept battery)

and for whoever wanted to know the video were they play in the warehouse thats "one" but the real question is whats the video that they used in the background with the guy in a coma that wanted to die cuz he was so alone
does ne one know this?

and also they dont play the good songs b/c society is gay and they didnt like leper messiah enough so they didnt become singles and metallica only really plays there singles

[timmccarty143]

and superpeer why didnt u try and sneak in, if u like em that much its worth a try

[xtreme_skatah]

Who here has got the Live **** Binge & Purge dvd. Can you give me a rating out of ten 'cus i'm thinking about buying it.

[JamieSomething]

I dooo,
I've had it since last year...and dude..9...the quality of video on some parts could be better..but..it's real good..
and..yeah, they've played No Leaf Clover live before..
and my radio station's played N.L.C..

[jkusch82]

Who here has got the Live **** Binge & Purge dvd. Can you give me a rating out of ten 'cus i'm thinking about buying it.

out a rating from one to 10...11.

it kicks huge ***.

[Mustaine27]

if u listen to it no leaf clover w/o the symphony would suck b/c theres less "stuff" in it
and it would aslo be sweet cuz the symphonic stuffs gay (exept battery)

and for whoever wanted to know the video were they play in the warehouse thats "one" but the real question is whats the video that they used in the background with the guy in a coma that wanted to die cuz he was so alone
does ne one know this?

and also they dont play the good songs b/c society is gay and they didnt like leper messiah enough so they didnt become singles and metallica only really plays there singles

The Films called Johnnys Got His Gun, but its doubtful you'll be able to find it anywhere. With luck you might catch it on some old movie channel one day!

[sztum22]

Hetfield rules!!!! My fav songs.....Hit the lights,Creeping death, Am I evil...Nothing else matters :thumb:

[sztum22]

Who here has got the Live **** Binge & Purge dvd. Can you give me a rating out of ten 'cus i'm thinking about buying it.

15 :thumb:

[sztum22]

THE ORDER OF YOUR FAVORITE METALLICA ALBUMS, DO IT!
1. Black Album
2. Master of Puppets
3. Kill 'Em All
4. Ride the Lightning
5. Load
6. St. Anger
7. Garage Inc.
8. ReLoad
9. S&M


1 kill/black
2 master
3 ride
3 justice
4 garage
5 load
6 reload
7 st.anger
8s&m

[LeadGuitarist]

Best Metallica album is ...And Justice for All
Best Hammett solo is found in the song Dyers Eve
Best Metallica riff is found in the song Blackened
Best drumming by Lars is found in the song ...And Justice for All

[MrMight]

Sanituarium is a great song and so is one but i think ones a bit overated

[kirk_wylde]

and for whoever wanted to know the video were they play in the warehouse thats "one" but the real question is whats the video that they used in the background with the guy in a coma that wanted to die cuz he was so alone
does ne one know this?


To whoever asked this It's johnny got his gun form 197?

[kirk_wylde]

if u listen to it no leaf clover w/o the symphony would suck b/c theres less "stuff" in it
and it would aslo be sweet cuz the symphonic stuffs gay (exept battery)


If you buy the DVD of S&M u have the option to listen to the concert without the orchestra (and if you desperately wanted to without Metallica)

[kirk_wylde]

*Bumps in an attempt to make this 40 pages long*

[kirk_wylde]

Oh on a totaly unrelated not could anyone recomend a good pantera album to buy (Not to screamy)

[Mustaine27]

and for whoever wanted to know the video were they play in the warehouse thats "one" but the real question is whats the video that they used in the background with the guy in a coma that wanted to die cuz he was so alone
does ne one know this?


To whoever asked this It's johnny got his gun form 197?

Eh sonny! I already answered the question a few posts up! tsk, trying to steal my limelight :p

I do have a question though.....does anybody know the website where I can download the Fade To Black video from? I had it ages ago but changed computers....I remember it being something Anti-MTV, but its slipped my mind.

[Mustaine27]

Oh on a totaly unrelated not could anyone recomend a good pantera album to buy (Not to screamy)

Vulgar Display Of Power or Far Beyond Driven

[NailHead]

could pantera ever "match" metallica speed wise?

[superpeer]

I do have a question though.....does anybody know the website where I can download the Fade To Black video from? I had it ages ago but changed computers....I remember it being something Anti-MTV, but its slipped my mind.

I don't know if you can download it but you can watch it

here (http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1017874)

[TheUnavoidable]

They recently played Leper Messiah, at a gig in germany.

And Fight Fire With Fire. :cool:

[Mustaine27]

I don't know if you can download it but you can watch it

here (http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/videos.asp?artistID=1017874)

Thanks Bud, you're a Gun.

I watched the Metal Militia live vid aswell......James' voice sounds like ****. He must have got singing lessons, thats all I can say.

[Jon]

Best Metallica album is ...And Justice for All
Best Hammett solo is found in the song Dyers Eve
Best Metallica riff is found in the song Blackened
Best drumming by Lars is found in the song ...And Justice for All

I don't wanna be argueing with you, but have you listened to the drumming in Dyer's Eye :amaze:


Does anyone have Cliff 'Em All? Its so incredibly good...

If they play Leper Messiah on Saturday, I will be the happiest man alive...

EDIT: OH MY GOD I THOUGHT YOU WERE INSIDE ME.... Change your avatar...

[Metallicat]

I don't wanna be argueing with you, but have you listened to the drumming in Dyer's Eye :amaze:


Does anyone have Cliff 'Em All? Its so incredibly good...

If they play Leper Messiah on Saturday, I will be the happiest man alive...

:amaze: holy ****, 40 pages! cool :thumb:

[Jon]

32 in my display :)

[jkusch82]

If you buy the DVD of S&M u have the option to listen to the concert without the orchestra (and if you desperately wanted to without Metallica)

no ****? i didnt know that!

how do u turn them off?

[ZildjianDummer]

I don't wanna be argueing with you, but have you listened to the drumming in Dyer's Eye :amaze:

as a good drummer i can definitely tell u AJFA is pretty easy to do drums. Disposable heroes is harder, and thats not very hard. The hardest drum song is Battery, the double bass is crazy n its exteremly sincopated on the fills. What do other drummers think is the hardest song

[superpeer]

Bumping is good

[0000]

If my drummers whinings are anything to go by then i can agree with ZildjianDummer that battery is very hard to play. I think the easiest Metallica song on the drums is "For Whom The Bell Tolls". Even I can play that, and I suck pretty bad.

[kirk_wylde]

no ****? i didnt know that!

how do u turn them off?

Soz I don't know how It just said on the back of the DVD (I bought cunning stunts instead though, It was cheaper.

Oh and if anyone wants to go to the earls court concerts Ticketmaster.co.uk bought a load up and released them on wednesday. I'm going yay

[Kosmos Tree]

Battery is murder when you try to play it like it is on MoP, cymbal hit here, cymbal hit there... the double bass part is one of the easy parts of the song.

[Ramsey]

I wanna congratulate rides success in making this thread! :chug:

[Jon]

Soz I don't know how It just said on the back of the DVD (I bought cunning stunts instead though, It was cheaper.

Oh and if anyone wants to go to the earls court concerts Ticketmaster.co.uk bought a load up and released them on wednesday. I'm going yay

Aren't those the really really bad seats at the behind-side of the stage?

I'm going standing, if you were hXc like me you would have bought your tickets on the first day of the pre-sale...

[defkennedys]

with all the fuss bout st. anger not having solos,
did no1 think of no remorse? early stuff, heavy , no solo, ace song

[Mustaine27]

No Remorse has 2 solos. Every song from Kill 'Em All does, None from St. Anger do.

Metallica Fans like solos.

Metallica + No Solos = Gisgruntled Fans.

[Ramsey]

^ not to mention Metallicas solos are usually always memorable imo.

[DBGOTD]

^ not to mention Metallicas solos are usually always memorable imo.

And that nothing on St. Anger is memorable.

[Metallicat]

And that nothing on St. Anger is memorable.

true. but it's catchy as hell. My lifestyle determines my deathstyle!

[Pantalica]

amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)

Those are all really good songs but the songs from the kill em all cd are all really good.
I suggest motorbreath or Anestasia if you play bass.

[Pantalica]

true. but it's catchy as hell. My lifestyle determines my deathstyle!
thats Frantic ur singing buddy.

[Pantalica]

could pantera ever "match" metallica speed wise?
i heard them play the kill em all seek and destroy and it kicked ***. It was almost better than the origanal!

[0000]

Yeah. Frantic. Hate the lyrics to that song. In fact the whole album is quite lyrically shallow.
Its funny, Pantalica's there talking about the best bits of Kill 'em all and were talking about St. Anger and really if you played both of them for someone who'd never heard of metal or metallica they wouldnt think it was the same band....... where did it all go wrong.......

[bigf'nbird]

*DIS-gruntled....and Metallica sucks.

[superpeer]

^
Don't read this thread then, Idiot

Anyone noticed that most people with that avatar are idiots? :confused:

[Mustaine27]

^
Don't read this thread then, Idiot

Anyone noticed that most people with that avatar are idiots? :confused:

I noticed that aswell. How Childish that he had to point out such a minor spelling mistake.

[we all gonna die!]

i liked metallica's older stuff better than there new (who doesn't?), but my favorite song out of all would be master of puppets.

i like how it goes from there normal stuff in that song, to nice and soft and slow, then to unique solo's

i also like enter sandman, its a preety well balanced song.

lets try to keep this thread alive
exactly what i think

who else is going to see them in earls court on saturday?

[metallicamaster]

St Anger is in my opinon a good work of metal... sure it could use a few solos but as Kirk said they really didnt fit... its a new direction to be sure and of cource Master and Lightning are unrepetable masterpieces. Ask Divinci to repain the MonaLisa or something like that it cant be done... We should all accept St Anger for what it is... some good rock and roll... like the guy above said "its catchy as hell". Right. Hey when are we going to find the tour dates for the new US Tour I hope that Metallica does come to NC within the summer if not im going to be pissed.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

i think they had to get St.Anger out of their system and that will be the last album of that sort of sound and song writing style, maybe now they will focus more and get back to writing songs that will be considered classics rather than songs that are raw and either completly hated by the majority and loved by a few.

[RockerGav]

I got a copy of RTL today.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

what do you think of it? I bought that back in either 96' or 97' and was hooked on it then. Creeping Death, the title track, and Trapped Under Ice are still some of my favourites. really bad drumming on that album IMO, and basically the first "real" metallica cd with all the actual band members writing on it. I used to have the chorus to "escape" written on my bookbag in like 6th n 7th grade haha.

[superpeer]

I got a copy of RTL today.

That is my favourite Metallica Album !

Perhaps even my favourite album overall.

[RockerGav]

what do you think of it? I bought that back in either 96' or 97' and was hooked on it then. Creeping Death, the title track, and Trapped Under Ice are still some of my favourites. really bad drumming on that album IMO, and basically the first "real" metallica cd with all the actual band members writing on it. I used to have the chorus to "escape" written on my bookbag in like 6th n 7th grade haha.

Due to having got 5 cds in 2 days, playing guitar for 2 + hours a day, going to school, and posting, I've not listened to it all yet.

[superpeer]

^
what else did you get?

[RockerGav]

Iron Maiden - Iron Maiden
Iron Maiden - Powerslave
RATM - Battle of LA
Ozzy - Ozzmosis

[superpeer]

Sweet, is your Iron Maiden Collection completed now?

[Ramsey]

...if you play bass.


but i thought...:confused:..iliketoplaydrums10111 plays the drums, right? i could be mistaken. :rolleyes:

[RockerGav]

Sweet, is your Iron Maiden Collection completed now?

Nah, I only have 5. others being Brave New World, Dance of Death, and Best of the Beast.

That leaves me 9 more studio albums, Edward the Great (Which I won't get, who needs 2 greatest hits cds?), and the live ones, which I might get.

[NailHead]

*bump*

[Distorted Vision]

In exactly two days from now I'll be standing in front of the boys at Earl's Court!

[another guy]

awesome man. and justice for all is my favorite metallica album. they were in their prime here.

[Call of Orion]

My favorite 'tallica albums
1. S&M
2. Master of Puppets
3. Black Album
4. Ride the Lightning
5. Load
6. ReLoad
7. Kill 'Em All
8. St. Anger

But they're all very close, and I like St. Anger.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^^^

i aggree with the last two. Aside from St.Anger, Kill was always my least favourite. MOP Is my favourite as well, followd by the black albm and than load/re-load.

[GaryDaNoTrashCougar]

I put Ride The Lightning and Kill em all over the rest of their albums

[Jon]

exactly what i think

who else is going to see them in earls court on saturday?


**** ****ing **** yeah!

Standing I assume you mean?

[Cowboy from hell]

Is there a dvd or video with loads of there early live gigs on, cause all i can see in hmv is cunning stunts, binge and purge, cliff em all and somthing else. I don't know if anyones seen it, but lives like For Whom the bell tolls, w/ Cliff Burton, at fest in 1985.

cheers

[Cowboy from hell]

**** ****ing **** yeah!

Standing I assume you mean?

Gits :upset: my mates dad got the last ticket, they were sold out on the day i decided to go buy my ticket. ARGH!!!!! :angry:
but i saw em at leeds so i can't really complain and i did see maiden a couple weeks bk... still ARGH!!! hehe

[ZildjianDummer]

still havent gotten the powerchords for One, someone help. Where is Earl's court? if its ne where close to where i live they should be on tv

[Led Zeppp]

question here:

the unforgiven OR the unforgiven II... which do you prefer?

also, why did they make unforgiven II?... not that i'm complaining, cuz its great.

[bball_1523]

I like unforgiven better because it just sounds better, especially the intro.

I don't know why they made Unforgiven II but I'm guessing just to make the 'Unforgiven' title a popular song or something.

[ZildjianDummer]

does anyone know some cool riffs for guitar that arent too hard , metallica or not? if so send link

[CrOw]

And that nothing on St. Anger is memorable.

word...

[ZildjianDummer]

call me stupid, but whats bump mean

[ZildjianDummer]

thats Frantic ur singing buddy.

frantic is on st. anger, buddy.

[RockerGav]

Earls Court is in London. Someone at my school was offering me tickets, but since I'm only 14 and I can't get to London/wouldn't be allowed if I could, I can't go.

London is almost the whole of the UK away from me btw.

From what I'm hearing, I prefer Ride to MOP.

[Ramsey]

call me stupid, but whats bump mean

Ok stupid :p


We are just bumping the thread up so it stays at the top of the forum, to keep metallica thread makers at bay :cool:



A little suggestion guys. Like the death heads thread, lets do a np (now playing) thingy. I think it would be cool. It doesn't necessarily have to be metallica.

[kirk_wylde]

*bump*

[Mustaine27]

Does anyone else think Metallica ****ed up on all of the Motorhead covers they did on Garage Inc.? I really don't like them one bit.

NP - Sepultura - R.I.P. (Rest In Pain)

[14107937@sun.ac.za]

Didn't anyone else think Lars' drumming kicked on St Anger? for me, he was the only one that improved...

[superpeer]

If you like trashcans instead of drums

[Mustaine27]

^ Just what I was thinking. Lars' drumming was terrible.

[Firecracker]

i think i want to see metallica sometime.

[Mustaine27]

Is it me or does it seem like Lars struggles on the drums?

It looks like he's putting effort in yeah, but I dunno.....it seems like he can't deal with his drumming half the time. He's had an injury since the Black Album and I think it was caused by him trying to hard. I'm not trying to call Lars crap or anything but it does seem like he needs a few Drumming lessons.

Please, please give me educated views.....don't say "I'd like to see you drum as well as Lars you ****ing Dickhead!"

[Ramsey]

^ He does seriously. Besides, his beats are fairly simple.
But imo, his drumming on reload and load are some of the BEST SLOW rock drumming i've ever heard; powerful and meaningful;' just the way i like it. (just as frail said too btw)

[RockerGav]

He's ntohing special.

He does keep the beat, he's solid, not fancy.

[Squirrel]

Lars seems ok to me; not astounding but not crappy either. I also noticed that he seems to struggle to play them; he's panting, sweating, cant keep his mouth closed and he has a strained face like he can't handle it. But, meh, Metallica own most bands today anyway :thumb:

Now Playing - Children of Bodom - Sixpounder

[NailHead]

Is it me or does it seem like Lars struggles on the drums?

It looks like he's putting effort in yeah, but I dunno.....it seems like he can't deal with his drumming half the time. He's had an injury since the Black Album and I think it was caused by him trying to hard. I'm not trying to call Lars crap or anything but it does seem like he needs a few Drumming lessons.


i think because of the injury, he could use some more practice, a rotator cuff injury is something work with, he shouldn't really be playing to hard either. Drumming lessons will help him get back in the big rythem, like when he was in ...And Justice For All and stuff.

[kirk_wylde]

I agree, but overall is drumming is pretty good (nice double bass on the early albums) But yeah he does look like he's straining himself

[superpeer]

t3h bumping

[ZildjianDummer]

thanks, ***. lol jk so bumping makes the thread bigger so it makes people not want to make more threads? im sitll stupid i thnk. :wave:

[ZildjianDummer]

Didn't anyone else think Lars' drumming kicked on St Anger? for me, he was the only one that improved...

i dont think he got worse for sure... he has some crazy double bass. I dont know if you play drums, but going really fast at the rate he does makes you sweat pretty bad. Hes sticking his tounge out for fun, not cuz he cant handle it. The injury doesnt help either. obviously hes not as good as buddy rich or alot of those other guys, but hes up there.
also, a lot of his beats are simple because back in the 80's almost all rock had simple beats.

[BarraBooRadley]

Didn't see this before I posted.Yes I'm a newby but got my ticket for europe tour etc and found out Slipknot supporting in most of Europe....Should I laugh or cry

[0000]

I found that out today too. You should weep. We all should.

[superpeer]

I would not cry, I would kill for tickets

[Suffering Dead]

who cares what slipknot does, metallica still kicks ***, and i'm sure they won't play any bull**** off of st anger, or maybe one or two songs. ****, i can't wait till they come, i gotta get tickets a.s.a.p.

[timmccarty143]

i dont play drums i play guitar, but i know kirks talent stopped showing around black album, no one really knows the full potential of him. i wonder if he can talk w/ his guitar like hendrix

[timmccarty143]

and also i play some bass and if ne one has heard his bass solo u know hes good

[LeadGuitarist]

Anyone think it weird of me to like Metallica as well as AFI? I am a true Metallica fan, but I've recently been spending my time listening to AFI's new album Sing the Sorrow. Any other Metallica fans like AFI?

[Call of Orion]

If you like trashcans instead of drums

That has nothing to do with his playing, just the sound. I think his drumming is awesome on that album. IMO he hasn't played that good since ...And Justice For All.

[twood]

I've just got back from their London show. It was......amazing.

They played a really good mix, the obligatory greatest hits, and some unexpected ones. Damage Inc., for one. That was a shock to me.

They played 3 St. Anger songs. Frantic, Dirty Window, and St. Anger. And quite frankly I wanted more. I think many people would be surprised at how good those songs sounded tonight. But to be fair, they did 'fix' them. Frantic (Which I always thought was a good song anyway), is now graced by a short, sharp, bloody fast solo in the middle, plus double-timing the intro. Dirty Window also got a proper solo inserted that was surprisingly good. St. Anger didn't get a solo, but again had the riffs 'thrashed up', and the moved the chorus chords/riff down an octave, which makes a hell of a difference. This just showed me what I thought all along - St. Anger has some really great songs on it that were badly let down through some crap arrangement and production. Tone Lars' drums down, speed the riffs up and put in a solo or two and hey, look, its Metallica back to their usual immense self.

After the double-encore that you knew was coming a mile off (Hey, they're getting old, not surprised they need a rest after finishing Master of Puppets ;)), they actually did the only 'spontaneous' encore I've seen. In the middle of throwing the plectrums out into the crowd, James suddenly got behind the drums, started strumming while playing the bass drum with his foot, said 'While we're here.........', and off they went into 'Am I Evil', the only Load/Re-Load tune of the night, followed by....wait for it......Hit the Lights. Oh yes. :D

[Suffering Dead]

i dont play drums i play guitar, but i know kirks talent stopped showing around black album, no one really knows the full potential of him. i wonder if he can talk w/ his guitar like hendrix
lets not forget Peter Brampton's talking guitar :thumb:

[ZildjianDummer]

hey, thats awesome about the spiffy st. anger, id love to hear some of it.

[xtreme_skatah]

That must have been a kickass concert. I wanna see them when they come to Australia but the tickest sold out on the first day. It sucked.

The guy who said that Lars is panting, he does that only when the camera is focusing on him. I watch him sometimes when the cameras aren't on him and he plays like a normal drummer.

And I'm getting the Binge & Purge dvd for xmas yeah! Can't wait till I watch it.

[Scythe404]

I apologize if this has been discussed (im too lazy to scroll back 40 pages), but who here will be attending a concert on their upcoming tour? Despite St. Anger they are a good band and im looking forward to the show.

[RockerGav]

Anyone think it weird of me to like Metallica as well as AFI? I am a true Metallica fan, but I've recently been spending my time listening to AFI's new album Sing the Sorrow. Any other Metallica fans like AFI?

Yeah, AFI are good.

I actually listen to more pop-punk than I would admit to a lot of people in R & M. (Millencolin, Green Day, NOT Simple Plan etc.)

Oh, and The Offpsring, I ****in love The Offspring.

[Ramsey]

Anyone think it weird of me to like Metallica as well as AFI? I am a true Metallica fan, but I've recently been spending my time listening to AFI's new album Sing the Sorrow. Any other Metallica fans like AFI?


nahh don't worry about it. I love death metal, and i love load and reload, as well as the dires straits, and others (eagles, dream theatre). And metallica. :)

[benfan]

i wanna see them live so bad my parents have seen them about 3 times and they say there amazing :evil:

[timmccarty143]

whats in all these videos, like ive seen a live sanatarium in cliff em all but is there ne thng else in these videos? like the live **** and the ohter ones

[timmccarty143]

ima try and quote stuff now

[timmccarty143]

[QUOTE]ima try and quote stuff now

[bassplayer18]

today i bought tickets to METALLICA!!!! im going to be seeing them live in edmonton in march. anyone else going to the tallica concert in edm.??

[Mustaine27]

Bump.

[superpeer]

B-u-m-p

[btoto]

hey , i'm a true metallica fan and i've heard a lot of people saying hethfield is the best in galloping down or whatever you call it, like MOP verse.
so, i'm just wondering if you've ever heard any offspring songs like for examle want you bad? dexter does a very fast galloping. what do you think about it?
but please do not insult me, i am one of you.

just curious about what you all think of offspring galloping

thanks

[get_inside_03]

I went to see Metallica last night at Earls Court .. it ruled .. the 2nd best gig ive ever been to.
But I was just wondering .. if anyone else did go .. do they know the setlist ?

[Brahm_K]

They're coming to Montreal soon, I believe. Unfortunately, ticket prices are expensive as hell, those greedy bastards.

[RockerGav]

hey , i'm a true metallica fan and i've heard a lot of people saying hethfield is the best in galloping down or whatever you call it, like MOP verse.
so, i'm just wondering if you've ever heard any offspring songs like for examle want you bad? dexter does a very fast galloping. what do you think about it?
but please do not insult me, i am one of you.

just curious about what you all think of offspring galloping

thanks


Its not really galloping, galloping is more like a quarter note followed by 2 eighth notes EG Raining Blood.

but yeah, Offspring are good at fast palm muting.

[UntilItSleeps]

I heard that james writes most of the solos is that true, i always thought kirk wrote the solos and james wrote everything else

[RHCPBass]

Bump!

[ChordlessInCanada]

Im pretty sure Kirk does most of the solos but James does do a few of them. nothing else matters for example, james did that one. Metallica frickin rules, they're the reason why i started playing guitar

[kirk_wylde]

Wow, Metallica last night was amazing, only two st. anger songs and Dirty window was made good with a 30 sec hammet solo. Plus lars playing guitar and kirk on drums lol

[UntilItSleeps]

yea i thought kirk wrote all the solos

[Mustaine27]

No Kirk Doesn't write all the solos......He hardly writes any infact. I've had this discussion to many times and it bores me.

People get credited when they think of solos. Kirk isn't credited very often through the first 5 albums. Something like 17 out of 47 songs. So yeah JAMES writes most of the solos....that clear things up for you?

[ZildjianDummer]

what other songs did metallica play that night?

[RideTheSpiral]

*bump*

[kirk_wylde]

what other songs did metallica play that night?
Battery. MOP, one, Seek & Destroy, Harvester of sorrow, Motorbreath, four hoursemen, sad but true, enter sandman, nothing else matters and lar played guitar for a bit

[Ramsey]

bump.

[btoto]

i've never heard of metallica playing leper messiah live. what's really wrong with that song? i mean it's my favourite in MOP album. but i can't find any live video of it. except cunning stunts where they play only intro with jason on drums.

please tell me, don't they like that song?

[bball_1523]

i've never heard of metallica playing leper messiah live. what's really wrong with that song? i mean it's my favourite in MOP album. but i can't find any live video of it. except cunning stunts where they play only intro with jason on drums.

please tell me, don't they like that song?

they played that song live at the fillmore in May 2003.

[Bomsen]

No Kirk Doesn't write all the solos......He hardly writes any infact. I've had this discussion to many times and it bores me.

People get credited when they think of solos. Kirk isn't credited very often through the first 5 albums. Something like 17 out of 47 songs. So yeah JAMES writes most of the solos....that clear things up for you?

Well, on all the solos he play there is always his mark on them....
Are you sure he dosen't write the solos?

[Mustaine27]

Well, on all the solos he play there is always his mark on them....
Are you sure he dosen't write the solos?

I'm very sure. He writes quite a few and most of them are excellent, but he only became a Key writer after 1991.

[Distorted Vision]

I saw them Saturday night at Earl's Court. It was ****ing incredible, I was at the barrier and the feeling was great. My first time seeing Metallica and they didn't let me down!

[Mustaine27]

I saw them Saturday night at Earl's Court. It was ****ing incredible, I was at the barrier and the feeling was great. My first time seeing Metallica and they didn't let me down!

You must have got there pretty **** early to be at the barriers!

Did Kirk and Lars swap instruments? They seem to be making that a regular thing of theirs.

[borisdablade]

^^

What a crock of ****, of course kirk writes most of the main solos have you ever watched the making of the black album??? Thats all kirk does in the band, he goes off by himself to write the solo, comes back to james and lars (and from balck onwards rock too) and they **** with it till it fits the song right.

[Mustaine27]

Did you see him write all the solos by himself?

Is he credited for them?

on that exact "making of the black album" did you hear James say Enter Sandman was the first Riff Kirk wrote?

So that means if that was his first riff (which he was credited for) that would mean he would be credited for just solos before that spot in time..........right?

That would be why he's credited for writing 14 solos from Kill 'Em All to ....And Justice For All. This is why I'm making that assumption.

[kirk_wylde]

*bump*

[superpeer]

I think Kirk writes most of the solos, except where it is mentioned otherwise (Master of puppets, Nothing else matters,...)

And James writes the riffs

[RockerGav]

Yeah thats what I think as well.

Plus, most of Kirks solos don't take much writing talent as most are just wah pentatonic wankery. But on MOP it states where someone else plays a solo, meaning that it is Kirk unless otherwise stated.

[bball_1523]

Are any of you guys attending the Los Angeles Great Western Forum show on March 5th for the Metallica/Godsmack concert?

I checked ticketmaster for tickets, and apparently they sold out, which sucks because they possibly sold out in one day or something. Maybe tickets will pop up more as the weeks come.

[UnderTone]

yeah the first MOP solo was made by and played by james, and by my knowledge, that's the only solo he's got his hands on but it's illogical to think that they haven't influenced eachother on the riffs or solos somewhere along the line seeing as they are in the same band for more than 20years.

[we all gonna die!]

Whos going to see Metallica June 6 Download Festival? I know I am

[SlaveToTheGrind]

i have one small question..

who writes the metallica solos? james or kirk?

[we all gonna die!]

I saw them Saturday night at Earl's Court. It was ****ing incredible, I was at the barrier and the feeling was great. My first time seeing Metallica and they didn't let me down!
I thought they kicked *** on saturday but a lot of people said their was crap sound. I saw them at Reading and the sound was a lot better.

[jkusch82]

i have one small question..

who writes the metallica solos? james or kirk?

kirk...

james has written some. IE. Nothing Else Matter's solo.

[RHCPBass]

Bump!!!!

[timmccarty143]

this supprised me but in the one video kirk uses single coil pickups does ne one know if he did this in the studio

[MetalHitman24]

Is anyone stilll on this ne more or am I too late?

[LeadGuitarist]

I'm going to the March 5th show. I got tickets during the presale. Good seats too! Can't wait 'til the show begins. I'm looking foward to seeing Kirk for the first time.

[hex135]

i got tix right when they came out 10 AM on saturday morning for the march 5th show, and they were balcony seats. (being the forum, thats not that bad, but still). apparently the show sold out EXTREMELY FAST! i dont think more will come, unless u get em through KROQ or scalpers at the show. best advice to see metallica live........JOIN THE METALLICA CLUB! u get presale tix, which guarantees pit seats (for the most part)

[borisdablade]

On the kirk writing solos thing also on and justice it says james does all melodies, harmonies, lyrics and the second solo on to live is to die. So either lars is a closet lead guitarist or kirk writes their solos.

kirk has a fender strat and a fernandes strat (thats in the one video) that he uses for studio work at times. Also on the unforgiven in san diego on binge and purge he uses a white fender strat with singles coils. Quality single coils are good for lead work (look at hendrix, blackmore, yngwie the list goes on), you only really need the hummers for that trademark tallica crunch in the rhythm sections.

[xtreme_skatah]

Who wrote the second solo in MoP? That is some awsome song writing.

[Mustaine27]

Alright, Alright! quit with the "who did what solos" because stupid fools like me and anyone else is gonna argue back and forth and its not worth it.

As far as I'm concerned nobody is right until somebody actually asks a member of Metallica who writes what solos.

[Bomsen]

Well, It's not very hard too hear who is playing what solos. You can definitly hear
Kirks mark on most of Metallicas solos. I belive he writes most of the solos.

[kirk_wylde]

I want to try and settle this solo argument once and for all. IMO to get writing credits surley that person has to have an intregal par in the song structe or lyrics. Just coming in and doing a solo over the top would probably not get you writing credits. Plus in a recent interview james said Kirk has always done ALL of the fast solos because he can't do them himself. And on the 14 or so songs kirk gets credited on (first Four albums) it probably means he did more than just the solo

[RockerGav]

Who wrote the second solo in MoP? That is some awsome song writing.


Kirk probably, but I would argue with the awesome song writing bit. The first one and the harmony interlude are genius, both written by James.

And the guy above me has it perfectly.

[RideTheSpiral]

*pump*

[kirk_wylde]

Kirk probably, but I would argue with the awesome song writing bit. The first one and the harmony interlude are genius, both written by James.

And the guy above me has it perfectly.

Why thank ye kindly

[bball_1523]

*pump*

you mean *bump*? LOL

[Jon]

Only 1 review of the London shows :eek: ?


Gimme a minute and I'll post mine, needless to say it kicked some ***.

[Jon]

Short review

Setlist as I remember it:
Battery
Four Horsemen
Ride The Lightning
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Fight Fire With Fire
Harvester of Sorrow
Master of Puppets
Dirty Window (+ Solo :cool: )
Frantic

*Encore*
Nothing Else Matters
Creeping Death
Seek And Destroy

*Encore*
One
Enter Sandman

*Half-encore*
Disposable Heroes? 30 seconds of something, can't remember what it was, then:
Blitzkrieg


So I get there at 2:30pm (Doors open at 6), we get to queue inside. I guess there were already 100 people there. So we hang around in the queue, go off to Burger King to get takeaway Super Large XL Double Whopper's (Big hole in me wallet from that dinner), then we get to go in. So we run, and I mean ****in run so that we get stopped by the security guards. Anyway, we get there (standing, that is) and we have a lovely chat with these cool people around us, who hype us up for Godsmack, who weren't half bad.

So Godsmack play, they weren't terrible (OH MY GOD THAT LES PAUL!!!), and end their set with the infamous Drum Duel. And the vocal-type-dude from Godsmack kept reassuring us that they'd shut the **** up soon and let us listen to the Gods Of Metal.

So Metallica have the worst roadies ever who take 1/2 hour to set up their stuff, then finally Metallica break into Battery. As I said, there were two people between me and James (excluding the bouncer-dudes). I was getting ****ing crushed, so after a few songs I move back again (And start breathing again). So that was all cool, and it ****ing ruled. And I had a really cool mosh around me, but without those skinhead twats that were at the front.

*More to come in an eensey bit*

[richie_666]

metallica are ****. i quit my last band cos they all bumed them you should find some real music like Misfits and murderdolls

[Jon]

You want fries with that deathwish?

[kirk_wylde]

I saw metallica 2 (on saturday) they were awsome

[Firecracker]

i wanna see them.

[zeppelin_rules_62]

Arghh.. I couldn't get tickets. Did anyone see them at Earls Court? What did they play?

[hex135]

metallica are ****. i quit my last band cos they all bumed them you should find some real music like Misfits and murderdolls

dude, this is not the place for you to come and say what we should and shouldnt listen to, especially when ur saying not to listen to metallica. 1, we listen to whoever the fu(k we want. 2, who r u to say wats "real music". 3, i'm not gonna get into the punk vs metal argument, cause its pointless

SO....if u dont like metallica, dont post here. btw, misfits are awesome, but metallica is godly

[YDload]

I got a X-mas eve present known as "Ride the Lightning" tonight. The only song I've heard on it beforehand was "Fade to Black," and I really liked the rest of the album. Maybe I'll do a review someday after I get a better opinion of the songs.

Creeping Death=awesome
Escape= cheesy, but I still like

[timmccarty143]

the best song on that album would have to be fight fire w/ fire, cuz its thrashy or call of ktulu cuz it just kicks ***

[RideTheSpiral]

Might see Metallica at Big Day Out if I can be bothered and can spare the $110 for the ticket.

[Blitz]

my favourite songs on Ride the Lightning would have to be Fade to Black and Call of Ktulu.

[RockerGav]

Ride The Lightning is an amazing album.

I got it expecting it not to be half as good as MOP, boy was I wrong. Its my favourite thrash album I own, no question. (And I own Rust in Peace).

Escape, can't for the life of me think how that goes.....But I remember liking it.

[superpeer]

^
told you so :D

It is my favourite metallica album

[bball_1523]

Ride The Lightning is a great album. I don't have it yet but I really enjoy the songs like 'Fade To Black' and 'Ride The Lightning.'

[Jon]

Because I don't want to link other forums, here goes:


OH MY GOD METALLICA MAMBER JAMES HETFIELD HAS DIED, BREAKING NEWS:
dragonfire911

Group: Members
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HAS ANY1 BEEN LISTENING TO THE NEWS IN THE PAST 15 MIN WELL,IF U HAVENT HEARD:JAMES HETFIELD OF METALLICA HAS BEEN FOUND DEAD IN HIS HOTEL ROOM FROM UNKNOWN CAUSES:NO NEWS ON FUNERAL ARANGEMENTS



My friend just linked me that, someone please say its not true.

[Jon]

Wow, my setlist guess was so wrong. Here:


Battery
The Four Horsemen
Ride The Lightning
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Frantic
Sad But True
Dirty Window
Harvester Of Sorrow
Master Of Puppets
Fight Fire With Fire
-----
Seek And Destroy
Nothing Else Matters
Creeping Death
----
One
Enter Sandman
----
Blitzkrieg
Motorbreath



How could I have missed off Motorbreath seeing as its my favourite song?

[BlackNightFalling]

i hope james didn't die, and what does IMO mean?

[Jon]

IMO = In my opinion

Actually, I doubt he's died, because I would have put a knife in my neck if he is.

[hex135]

he's not dead. something like this happened a while ago in the punk forums where they said that blink 182's old drummer was dead or something. people who start those things are homos with nothing better to do. especially at this time of year. whoever started that should be banned

[Firecracker]

it's appalling.
pretending people are dead.
absolutely horrible.

[Jon]

It was on a different forum (which will remain nameless to benefit Jeremy), so banning won't help. Actually, I think the person was banned, but it scared the **** out of me.




Now back to reality, any one know where I can get a Metallica wrist/sweatband off the net (or anywhere in London)?

[Squirrel]

You mean like Hetfields? if you do ive got a site for that - i'll try finding it for you ( later, off to bed soon ).

[hex135]

if ur part of the metallica club, you can go to metclub.com. and go to the 'met store'. they sell EVERYTHING metallica, and its all licensed merchandise

[timmccarty143]

bump to da pump to da home jiz!!
metallica rulez!

[YDload]

Here's a really weird thing I noticed ( I may even dedicate a separate thread to this): I also got "Number of the Beast" for X-mas, and being able to listen to these two great albums (the other one is Ride the Lightning) back to back has got me thinking. The loud bell that chimes in the beginning of both "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and "Hallowed Be Thy Name" sound like they have the exact same pitch. Can anyone verify this?

[Metallicat]

Here's a really weird thing I noticed ( I may even dedicate a separate thread to this): I also got "Number of the Beast" for X-mas, and being able to listen to these two great albums (the other one is Ride the Lightning) back to back has got me thinking. The loud bell that chimes in the beginning of both "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and "Hallowed Be Thy Name" sound like they have the exact same pitch. Can anyone verify this?

I can verify that "For Whom the Bell Tolls" is better :thumb:

[btoto]

i'm going to start a new research. i don't know if this has ever been done before but...anyway. the question is:

1.which metallica song(maybe 2 or 3) you dislike the most(maybe even hate)?
2. why?

so, mine is :

the memory remains
especially i hate marian's voice !
altough the song sounds good in S&M

i'm a huge metallica fan, but when i heard this song... :(

so, please all tallica fans, answer to my question

thanks beforehand

[kirk_wylde]

Holier than thou.. dunno why just don't like it

[Jon]

Most things post-Justice, apart from NeM, Sandman and Fuel.

Because I think they suck :thumb:


You mean like Hetfields? if you do ive got a site for that - i'll try finding it for you ( later, off to bed soon ).
I have no idea if he has one, but that link would be great!

if ur part of the metallica club, you can go to metclub.com. and go to the 'met store'. they sell EVERYTHING metallica, and its all licensed merchandise
Its not on the official metallica store, and I'm not a member of MetClub (I might join though), if you are can you please tell me if they sell them.

[RockerGav]

2 or 3 I dislike....trying to pick from pre-black stuff here btw.

1. One. I know its a classic Met song, but although the intro is great I find it heavily overrated and I just don't like it.

2. The Thing that should not be. Nowhere near as good as the rest of the album.

3. St Anger. (I was struggling okay?)

[Ramsey]

Now back to reality, any one know where I can get a Metallica wrist/sweatband off the net (or anywhere in London)?

don't you ever check your posts man?


i told you in the other threads

www.infinity1.com

the biggest rock merchandise site in the world.

[Jon]

*Takes it to MSN*

[Killa_Bee]

I saw Metallica live in Earls Court on Friday the 19th! They totally kicked ***

Setlist:

Blackened
Creeping Death
Seek and Destroy
Fade To Black
The Thing That Should Not Be
Frantic
For whom the Bell Tolls
Dirty Window
Sad But True
One
Damage Inc.
-----------
Harvester Of Sorrow
Nothing Else Matters
Master Of Puppets
-----------
St. Anger
Enter Sandman
-----------
Am I Evil?
Hit The Lights

Thats a great set-list to start with!!! The guys played the songs excellently and had the whole place signing along with every song and had us bouncing around aswell!! It was a totally awesome gig! I can't wait to see them live again :D

[Jon]

I think overall we had a better setlist.

We had Battery, you had Blackened, that was the only thing you had better than us. We got Motorbreath :p

[Kickflip_Burrito]

thats so different from the 20th Dec gig. very very different! we didn't get 'st. anger', 'hit the lights', 'thing that should not be', 'damage inc.' 'am i evil?', 'blackened' fade to black'.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

oh yeh, we got Battery, motobreath, blitzkreig, ride the lightning, the four horsemen, fight fire with fire, sanitarium. so overall, we got better. i wud've loved to see Blackened tho, i always thought that'd be a good opener. Battery is better.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

hey, whatever happened to Fuel??? neither of the gigs had it!! that song rocks!

[kirk_wylde]

I agree fuel would've been a good one

[kirk_wylde]

I was wondering If you could compose a dream metallica concert what would it be like. By this I mean what support band would cover and a setlist of twenty songs to be used in the said concert.

Mine would be-
Support act - Ozzy osbourne
Songs

Open with One
Battery
Fade to Black
Escape
Master of puppets
Seek and destroy
Motorbreath
Nothing else matters
Master of puppets
Orion
Welcome home (sanitarium)
Sad but true
Unforgiven II
Harvester of sorrow
For whom the bell tolls
Ride the lightning
Sad but true
Jump in the fire
Blitzkreeg
Astronomy


Probably left out some good ones But just from 20 songs (admitedly two covers) that would be my concert

[YDload]

^ For some reason, a lot of die-hard fans don't like "Escape." It was too cheesy for Metallica at the time it came out (at least the chorus was), and it sounded to Maidenesque for their fans I guess. Either way, it's obviously not popular enough for them to put in a setlist.

[Jon]

*Ponders about dream setlist*

Blackened
Fight Fire With Fire
Motorbreath
No Remorse
For Whom The Bell Tolls
One
Ride The Lightning
Enter Sandman
*****
Battery
Dyer's Eve
*****
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
Harvestor of Sorrow
Leper Messiah
*****
Master Of Puppets
Seek And Destroy
*****

[GaryDaNoTrashCougar]

Do all of Metallica's songs have distortion. I never really payed attention until it was mentioned in a thread.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

^ For some reason, a lot of die-hard fans don't like "Escape." It was too cheesy for Metallica at the time it came out (at least the chorus was), and it sounded to Maidenesque for their fans I guess. Either way, it's obviously not popular enough for them to put in a setlist.

i always loved that song, and i do aggree that it does have more of an uplifitng Iron Maiden type chorus to it. For the time though it was one of James' better lyrical pieces though.

[FoUrStRiNgFrEaK]

The only Metallica songs I've ever heard are, in this order:

Enter Sandman
St. Anger

I've been thinking about getting Master of Puppets.

I would recommend puppets justice or lightning.They all are sweet.

[YDload]

Start with Puppets! That's what I did, and I think it worked out pretty well.

[kirk_wylde]

*bump*

[btoto]

i'm kind of curious if anyone here knows how to get the real and justice for all sound. i mean effects and pedals. i searched for their gear but i can't really find out which one is proper. kirk and james use so many effects. i know that it is almost impossble to sound like them, but maybe someone knows any effects, pedals that could sound close to justice album. ha ?

thanks

[manuscriptreplica]

Cool... a dream concert. Maybe Metallica will read this and play it at BDO! :drools:

1 Battery
2 One
3 Four Horsemen
4 Phantom Lord
5 Fade to Black
6 Master of Puppets
7 Orion
8 Ride the Lightning
9 To Live is to Die
10 St. Anger
11 Enter Sandman
12 Unforgiven 2
13 Dyers Eve
14 To Live is to Die
15 Frantic
16 Hit the Lights
17 Seek and Destroy
18 Damage Inc.
19 Motorbreath
20 Wherever I May Roam

[Squirrel]

i'm kind of curious if anyone here knows how to get the real and justice for all sound. i mean effects and pedals. i searched for their gear but i can't really find out which one is proper. kirk and james use so many effects. i know that it is almost impossble to sound like them, but maybe someone knows any effects, pedals that could sound close to justice album. ha ?

What affects would these be ...? Most of the sound on that album is generated from poor recording technique; set your gain up high, medium contour and treble and have a good deal of bass in it. The sound they got was just generated from using low/medium quality recording equipment.

[Jon]

*Is diehard Metallica obsessive*
*Doesn't mind Escape*

Its very...different to their other stuff... Just like Motorbreath for instance. Doesn't mean its bad...

[manuscriptreplica]

*downloads Escape by Metallica*
*listens to it*
*listens to it again*

i like it.

[Jon]

It doesn't fit with the album though.

[Toozey]

Its a like having a pop song on a thrash album. It was a warning of things to come (Black album stuff)

[Jon]

Exactly...



OH ****. I JUST PLAYED DYERS EVE PROPERLY (WITHOUT SOLO)

I am so god...

[Hey Kid! Im A Computer!]

Part of thier sound to would be thier amp, if your using some 8" 40 watt amp thats not going to get your sound, what do you play through? in accordance to what squirrel h4x said, you would need either a good distortion pedal with a decent amp or a marshall half

[Bullit]

Exactly...



OH ****. I JUST PLAYED DYERS EVE PROPERLY (WITHOUT SOLO)

I am so god...

:eek:

Congrabulations :p

I learning Battery at the moment. Getting that open string rhythm consistent is difficult :(

[Jon]

Indeed. The:

|-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5-|
|0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0|

Things they do take a long time to get right...

[Guerilla]

I was wondering if ne 1 knew how to get a perfect sound for the effect used on the bass at the begining of For Whom the Bell Tolls. I have a Boss GT-6b effects pedal, and i have spent a long time trying to get the effect right, but it never seems to sound right. If ne 1 else has this pedal, and has figured out a perfect sounding setting, could you please tell me it. If not then would you be able to tell me what effects are being used.
Thanks

[cliffburton2004]

Dunno, they changed alot of stuff when they did and justice... especially the drums and where in the fiery pits of hell is the bass. Poor jason

[defkennedys]

i got kill em all, puppets and cunningstunts dvd for xmas,
, this may have been raised b4 here, but who'every1s favourite bassist of the 3 that have been

[defkennedys]

congrats 2 every1, 50 pages!

[Jon]

i got kill em all, puppets and cunningstunts dvd for xmas,
, this may have been raised b4 here, but who'every1s favourite bassist of the 3 that have been

40 pages



Burton...

[superpeer]

it's 50 on mine

[defkennedys]

says 50 on mine as well

[Jon]

Yeh, but I'm so hXc that I do 25 posts per page :p

[Hey Kid! Im A Computer!]

ill say burton, i would like to hear the new bassist with some of the old metallica

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

in terms of skill, rob has cliff smashed into the ground. listen to any of robs earlier works with past bands, the man is a bass machine. its a shame james wont let him (sounds like the jason scenerio) do anything to further the bands sound, i know he joined after the latest album...but i would put money hetfield tells him what to play and how to play it.

[Bullit]

I saw a live video of Rob a while ago. The guy has a certain stage presence :thumb:

From what I could hear the playing was good too.

[ManWithDaPlan]

Rob has had more time to show off some more skill. Thing is, Cliff might have just as good or better, but since he wasnt around with the band for very long, the parts he played were prolly just to go with the song. but, rob prolly was better than cliff though anyway...

[Jon]

Rob was very good live. I have no idea if he had any stage presence, because there was a tall dude blocking my view of him, but a friend said that he was spinning and all sorts.

[superpeer]

Jason had the best backing vocals and that's final.

[BrownSugar]

I'm seeing Metallica in exactly 18 days. I can't fuc*ing wait.

[Ste]

Rob has a very good stage presence and i think hes an ace bassist,however I think all 3 of them were good in their own different ways

[naboo]

i saw a vid of Rob playing blackened with the band and he did have a good stage presence. I like Cliff for my favorite bassist of theirs, he was very creative and just soo good.


by the way, is Cunning Stunts good? I have Cliff em All and i think its great (besides the bad quality at some points).

[ZildjianDummer]

whats james problem? i think metallica's songs would be better if ucould actually hear the bass

[Jon]

James' problem is that when the whole band (+ Bob ****) jam as in St Anger, we get a really bad song. When James and Lars write the basis, we get a good song.

Go figure.

[manuscriptreplica]

^^^ hehehe bob ****

[xtreme_skatah]

I like Jason but why is it that he uses a pick instead of fingers to play. Rob and Cliff used their fingers. I think that bassist who play with fingers look alot more skilled. But i like the way how Jason plays like. He really gets into the music.

[manuscriptreplica]

I didn't like newsted at all, especially on And Justice for all, you could barely hear him! Rock's stuff is insanely simple to play (just drop every string about 10 tones) so i would say Burton. and i dont like playing with a pick, so its easier to play stuff from burtons era on my bass.

vv p.s. the 1000th post better be good!!! i could of taken it but meh. ridethespiral should have the honours