Metallica Inc.

[Burdcheese]

Where are you from Burdcheese?

An obscure suburb of London that doesn't actually have an HMV

[Joe]

Amazing dvd/cd set live sh*t. Get it now if youre a metallica fan :)

really?!?! great! i about to get it for xmas

[Joe]

wow 30?? its like 50$ here

[JACKROXYOU]

that means its about the same price

30 pounds is close to 50$

[JACKROXYOU]

so does any one else have great metallica moments from concerts

or any other metallica stories they would like to share

[metallica2022]

I just need to say this.....for anyone that "hates" St. Anger or thinks it's ****....u cannot call yourself a true Metallica fan. To be a true Metallica fan, i'm not saying to have to like everything...but to put down ur "favorite" bands cd that hard, takes away your chance at being a true fan. There is my opinion, i don't love St. Anger, but it doesn't suck, you have to be a drummer to appreciate that CD anyway, c'mon, Lars hasn't played like that since Justice

[Fernandes Power]

I just need to say this.....for anyone that "hates" St. Anger or thinks it's ****....u cannot call yourself a true Metallica fan. To be a true Metallica fan, i'm not saying to have to like everything...but to put down ur "favorite" bands cd that hard, takes away your chance at being a true fan. There is my opinion, i don't love St. Anger, but it doesn't suck, you have to be a drummer to appreciate that CD anyway, c'mon, Lars hasn't played like that since Justice

Woah... dude, stfu. No-one made you an authority on Metallica, how come you 'needed' to say that anyway? Just a random n00b statement... :rolleyes:

[dielater]

who thinks lars has been a dick ever since the fuel album?

[Fernandes Power]

who thinks lars has been a dick ever since the fuel album?

Lars has been a dick since forever... neg rep for not knowing that and for not knowing its called RELOAD

[metallica2022]

I can say wtf I want, and that's what I wanted to say, this is a Metallica thread, and that is a Metallica post, so deal with it

[JACKROXYOU]

I just need to say this.....for anyone that "hates" St. Anger or thinks it's ****....u cannot call yourself a true Metallica fan. To be a true Metallica fan, i'm not saying to have to like everything...but to put down ur "favorite" bands cd that hard, takes away your chance at being a true fan. There is my opinion, i don't love St. Anger, but it doesn't suck, you have to be a drummer to appreciate that CD anyway, c'mon, Lars hasn't played like that since Justice

sure i can wtf you gonna do

kill em all :thumb:
rtl :thumb:
MoP :thumb:
AJFA :thumb:
Black Album :thumb:
load reload garage inc. mas o menos
s&m :thumb:
st anger sucks sucks sucks

i love metallica i hate st anger.

who thinks lars has been a dick ever since the fuel album?

eh ive seen worse

[Fernandes Power]

I can say wtf I want, and that's what I wanted to say, this is a Metallica thread, and that is a Metallica post, so deal with it

Hahaha... u have lots to learn n00b. :thumb:

Im not denying your freedom of speech, but youre not some kind of metallica authority... by your logic, Metallica fans should be allowed to post anything nasty about St Anger they want in this Metallica thread... :rolleyes:

[JACKROXYOU]

god bless the usa

[^Dream~Theater^]

I just need to say this.....for anyone that "hates" St. Anger or thinks it's ****....u cannot call yourself a true Metallica fan. To be a true Metallica fan, i'm not saying to have to like everything...but to put down ur "favorite" bands cd that hard, takes away your chance at being a true fan. There is my opinion, i don't love St. Anger, but it doesn't suck, you have to be a drummer to appreciate that CD anyway, c'mon, Lars hasn't played like that since Justice
I'm a die hard metallica fan, and there is a few songs off st anger that are good but the rest is complete crap, you can call yourself a true fan and still dislike an album, otherwise your a poser saying you like it if you actually don't.

[JACKROXYOU]

I'm a die hard metallica fan, and there is a few songs off st anger that are good but the rest is complete crap, you can call yourself a true fan and still dislike an album, otherwise your a poser saying you like it if you actually don't.

thats a great point

posing like you like that crap to make yourself look like ultofan just makes you a suck up

[Fernandes Power]

The n00b has given up... i dont think we need to make anymore points. :lol:

[JACKROXYOU]

sounds good im out of em

[spitfirejunky]

I just need to say this.....for anyone that "hates" St. Anger or thinks it's ****....u cannot call yourself a true Metallica fan. To be a true Metallica fan, i'm not saying to have to like everything...but to put down ur "favorite" bands cd that hard, takes away your chance at being a true fan. There is my opinion, i don't love St. Anger, but it doesn't suck, you have to be a drummer to appreciate that CD anyway, c'mon, Lars hasn't played like that since Justice

Anyone who appreciates the true potential of Metallica can never look at St. Anger and say it's even somewhat good. If a band's standards plummet over the years, it's not in the fan's place to take sh*t as it comes. Fans are supposed to be critical to prevent the downfall of the music industry to such talented artists as Evanescence (had to pull that one).

[Joe]

that means its about the same price

30 pounds is close to 50$

but like the dollar is dropping so much. how much is a pound to the euro? because a dollar used to equal a euro

[Joe]

very nice man no blackened?

but im glad to see disposable heroes so high
and would of liked to see lepers messiah

DH kicks so much as

[Joe]

very nice man no blackened?

but im glad to see disposable heroes so high
and would of liked to see lepers messiah

DH kicks so much ***
LM is just under the top 20, not one of my fav's.
to be honest, i've only heard blackened once. its been awhile too

[Joe]

sorry, sorta double post

[JACKROXYOU]

thats cool man

[Joe]

1) Seek & destroy
2) Blackened
3) ...and jusice for all
4) Creeping death
5) Fade to Black
6) Sad but true
7) Pulling teeth (Anasthesia)
8) One
9) Master of puppets
10) Welcome home (Sanitarium)

damn... your like the only person that calls it Welcome Home (Sanitarium). everyone calls it Sanitarium, when it's not the name of the song

[JACKROXYOU]

yea but its just slowly become that

[maggot4875]

wow 30?? its like 50$ here

it was 100 where i got it,i got it for last xmas

[Joe]

really??? thats quite a lot...

[Joe]

so who went to the MIAWTW tour??? what'd you all think?

[metal_milita]

can someone follow up on the pear story??

and about that "noob" mx-poster who was saying that metallica fans should like st.anger, he wasn't too off base you know, all of you guys over-reacted IMO (opinion, notice opinion dammit). We shouldn't be forced to like it, but you have to respect the music man, it IS pretty good. If any other band came out with an album like that whos name wasn't metallica, it would be pretty good. Don't hold such high expectations of metallica, its not their duty to fullfil it so that our hopes aren't crushed. they're just there to play the music they love. Despite the 90% of people who absolutley hate St.Anger, notice how metallica still regards it as their best album they've ever created and the album that had the excited the most. Metallica puts a lot of emotion into their music, and now that they are old, wiser, and sadly, sober, that emotion which used to be raw poison fueled-anger and thrill has been replaced by something more to the effect of being at peace. James just finished rehabilitation, think about it guys. Their music is NOT based on and does NOT sell on their solo's and speed if you've ever noticed. It's sold IMO on the emotion they put into their songs. Take most peoples favorite songs
fade to black
Sanitarium
To live is to die
Call of Ktulu
Ride the lightning
MOP
etc.
They all have one main similarity.

[KILO5203]

I really dont see whats so bad about st anger. i realise its not the best but its still a good album.

[metal_milita]

I really dont see whats so bad about st anger. i realise its not the best but its still a good album.
offtopic, but congratulations on your 2nd post in 6 months :thumb:

[JACKROXYOU]

so who went to the MIAWTW tour??? what'd you all think?

saw it at houston toyota center that was awsome

[KILO5203]

yeah i know huh? i signed up and just never got on till yesterday

[RiceMonster]

I really dont see whats so bad about st anger. i realise its not the best but its still a good album.
For big Metallica fans it is fine. But for those who like Metallica, but not a lot, it is terrible. I'm personally sick of all the St. Anger bitching. I don't like the album, but come on people, get over it.

[JACKROXYOU]

For big Metallica fans it is fine. But for those who like Metallica, but not a lot, it is terrible. I'm personally sick of all the St. Anger bitching. I don't like the album, but come on people, get over it.

yea really lets look toward the future

[solidsnake3725]

Personally i think St, Anger sucked. And do u wanna know why. Listen to evey one of the songs on that album. NOT ONE KIRK SOLO!!! what the heck is wrong with this!? Metallica is a great band don't get me wrong. Its just that St. Anger sucked!!!

[motorbreath53]

For big Metallica fans it is fine. But for those who like Metallica, but not a lot, it is terrible. I'm personally sick of all the St. Anger bitching. I don't like the album, but come on people, get over it.



i didnt know how to quote the message ^^

i agree man... i personally didnt love it either but i mean they were amazing back in the day and so many people dont realize that they might have not wanted to play thrashy anymore...i mean c'mon we cant live in the past... things have changed but unfortunately not for the better. but i do hear that their new album is supposed to be a bit thrashier... so thats good news
so lets look foward to the future :chug:

[Huber]

Yeah, everyone makes mistakes. I like St. Anger, but even if you see it as bad, it's just one of many. Stop crying about it.

[scrowler]

i dont like st anger.. especially the track st anger.. but i love metallica overall

i downloaded a metallica screen tattoo yesterday :D its coooool and it says "MetallicA" in their font

[JACKROXYOU]

i dont like st anger.. especially the track st anger.. but i love metallica overall

i downloaded a metallica screen tattoo yesterday :D its coooool and it says "MetallicA" in their font

cool?

[Heavy0metal0freak]

I like st. anger its not that good but it's better than the radio music

[hellraiser123]

St Anger, pretty good album, although im disappointed that it doesnt have any solos in it, its still a **** heavy album...the film 'some kind of monster' looks like a good followup. has anyone seen it? whats it like?

[RiceMonster]

It wouldn't have been any better if Kirk had done any solos in my opinion.

[JACKROXYOU]

holy **** guys stop talkin about st anger

st anger = 40-50 pages of this thread at least

[Joe]

AGREED!!!!! talk about tours, old cd's music, but just SHUT UP WITH ST ANGER. we all know it is the worst metallica cd because there are no solos and the songs are too long.

sooooo about that recent tour...or about master of puppets or rtl....something else besides st anger

[Joe]

someone above posted about the movie

has anyone seen it???

[JACKROXYOU]

no i missed the movie was it good?

i did see the miawtw tour when it was houston, and bought the concert

every band should sell thier concerts

[AngusYoung413]

does any one know any good/great bass partsd besides pulling teeth, my friend of misery, and for whom the bell tolls??

[KillemAllforOne83]

The Four Horseman

[Huber]

does any one know any good/great bass partsd besides pulling teeth, my friend of misery, and for whom the bell tolls??

I don't know the name of it, or if you named it. But there's an incredible bass solo somewhere on Kill Em' All

[Freezing Moon]

It's called "Anesthesia - Pulling Teeth".

[JACKROXYOU]

just order the houston concert and go to rob's intermission solo

it owns all

[metallicamaniac16]

I know of almost all of Metallica's cds, including Kill em all, RTL, MOP, AJFA, Black Album, Live Sh*t, Load, Reload, S&M, Garage Inc., and St. Anger, but I'm sure I'm missing one (or more). Can anyone help me? Also, does anyone know if Load and Garage Inc. are any good?

[metallicamaniac16]

does any one know any good/great bass partsd besides pulling teeth, my friend of misery, and for whom the bell tolls??
I'm a guitarist, so I may be wrong about bass, but Orion, from Master of Puppets, has a pretty good bass part to it.

[JACKROXYOU]

loads ok

garage inc is 22.99 for a cover album

[Freezing Moon]

I'm a guitarist, so I may be wrong about bass, but Orion, from Master of Puppets, has a pretty good bass part to it.

I like the part with the guitars doing slow bends over the bass riff. It isn't that hard of a riff but it fits really well.

[alcoholocaust]

does any one know any good/great bass partsd besides pulling teeth, my friend of misery, and for whom the bell tolls??

The Frayed Ends of Sanity has a bass build up similar to Four Horsemen's right before the guitar solo.

[KJSchultz]

maybe i didn't llook close enough...but i didn't see anyone mention the awesomeness of the song AIN'T MY BITCH off of Load

[Joe]

I know of almost all of Metallica's cds, including Kill em all, RTL, MOP, AJFA, Black Album, Live Sh*t, Load, Reload, S&M, Garage Inc., and St. Anger, but I'm sure I'm missing one (or more). Can anyone help me? Also, does anyone know if Load and Garage Inc. are any good?

isn't Some Kind Of Monster now a cd???

i like both load and garage inc.

[metallicamaniac16]

Does anyone know of any thrashy guitar solos that are pretty easy? I'm a guitarist, but I'm not that good. I'm workin on Motorbreath right now, but its takin some time.

[Joe]

no i missed the movie was it good?

i did see the miawtw tour when it was houston, and bought the concert

every band should sell thier concerts

agreed. it would stop people from bringing in recorders to the concerts. (you can also buy ANY set list from the whole tour) i bought the concert too, it's amazing


can you buy old tours? i wanna hear summer saniteriam from last year

[Huber]

isn't Some Kind Of Monster now a cd???

i like both load and garage inc.

There's a Some Kind Of Monster EP. I got it. Neat stuff. Live Ride the Lightning. Worth the few bucks.

[Joe]

Does anyone know of any thrashy guitar solos that are pretty easy? I'm a guitarist, but I'm not that good. I'm workin on Motorbreath right now, but its takin some time.

a thrashy solo thats pretty easy ????? actually, "one" i find fairly easy

[metallicamaniac16]

isn't Some Kind Of Monster now a cd???

i like both load and garage inc.
they probably made one of those crappy cd's with just the single on it, but i doubt its a full cd.

[Joe]

has anyone bought any of the gold cds??? it's their old stuff and their like $60 a piece. are they really worth the $60?

[Freezing Moon]

Does anyone know of any thrashy guitar solos that are pretty easy? I'm a guitarist, but I'm not that good. I'm workin on Motorbreath right now, but its takin some time.

1. The small solo at the beginning of "Jump In The Fire".

2. The ending part of the "Seek and Destroy" Solo. (First solo I ever learned.)

There are others too, just look at the tabs and see what you can do.

Edit: Actually, many of Kirk's solo's on Kill 'Em All are pretty easy as far as technicallity goes, they're just fast.

[metallicamaniac16]

a thrashy solo thats pretty easy ????? actually, "one" i find fairly easy
****, i love that song, especially when they speed it up on S&M

[Joe]

****, i love that song, especially when they speed it up on S&M

buy this past tour. i really like the one i went too, in Washington D.C. on Oct. 17th. the set list is absolutely amazing and the songs are great

[Joe]

here's what i saw and show notes

DISC ONE
Blackened
Fuel
Sad But True
No Leaf Clover
Ride The Lightning
Kirk Doodle #1
The Unforgiven
The God That Failed
St. Anger
Junglessence
I Disappear
Creeping Death

DISC TWO
Fight Fire With Fire
Fade to Black
Melbourne
Nothing Else Matters
Master Of Puppets
One
Enter Sandman
Disposable Heroes
Seek and Destroy

TOTAL RUNNING TIME 2:21:08

2nd time RTL was played
1st time God that failed has been played in 10 yrs

[Metallica Rules]

To be a true fan all you have to do is respect and them give your honest opinion about St.Anger. Indeed, it sucks but after much listening you would find the album average. That is because in your heart you are trying so hard to convince yourself that St.Anger is not a bad album, and Metallica doesn't suck. Instead take a look at first 5 to 6 albums. That is the true Metallica! 'coz by the end of the first ride of the albums, you would be addicted to it, and keep repeating it. I'm bashing Metallica only to give me honest opinion about how i feel, and Metallica had changed. But like i said i still RESPECT THEM. BECAUSE FADE TO BLACK IS THE BEST SONG EVER. FOLLOW BY ONE AND NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

[JACKROXYOU]

Blackened

Fuel

Sad But True

Wherever I May Roam

Dirty Window

Kirk Doodle #1

The Unforgiven

Holier Than Thou

King Nothing

Junglessence

Welcome Home (Sanitarium)

Creeping Death

DISC TWO
Battery

I Disappear

Melbourne

Nothing Else Matters

Master Of Puppets

One

Enter Sandman

Die, Die My Darling

Seek and Destroy

TOTAL RUNNING TIME 2:12:24

four more minutes man

[JACKROXYOU]

This was the fourth time Dirty Window was played on this leg of the Madly In Anger With the World tour 2004.


This was the first time Die, Die My Darling was played on this leg of the Madly In Anger With the World tour 2004. Prior to that it has not been performed since May 2, 2004 in Madison, WI.

*This was the 12th time Metallica has performed in Houston, TX. The most recent show was on August 2, 2003 during the Summer Sanitarium tour.

[metaldood]

does anyone know some easier metallica solos to play? Ive played 4 years and am half decent, but still cannot manage such great solos as the one on master of puppets, however i can play the ones in orion. i have a show coming up soon....any suggestions on a couple to play that woulkdnt be too hard to pull off? thanks

[Mister_Che]

After 4 years, MOP's solo shouldn't be too hard for you. I learned it in 3 days and have only been playing for one year. Try the opening solo in Fade To Black, or the short solos in Sanitarium.

EDIT: Welcome to MX byt he way. :wave:

[JACKROXYOU]

After 4 years, MOP's solo shouldn't be too hard for you. I learned it in 3 days and have only been playing for one year. Try the opening solo in Fade To Black, or the short solos in Sanitarium.

EDIT: Welcome to MX byt he way. :wave:


so che you gonna answer my question from earlier

[Mister_Che]

About the stripper and the fight?

Didn't see the stripper.

Friend says we used to know the guy that got his a.ss kicked. Not sure though.

[JACKROXYOU]

o well it was hard to miss this chick the whole stadium was watchin

thats wat everyone was cheerin about during the intermission

[metaldood]

seriously? the mop solo sounds hard...it must be easier than it sounds? as for fade to black....im lookin for a thrashier song to do live...with a 'possible to play' solo.....doesnt have to be metallica.....know any pantera solos that are 'wingable' besides this love?

[JACKROXYOU]

it is easier than it sounds but its so rewarding to know

[Mister_Che]

it is easier than it sounds but its so rewarding to know
If you mean MOP, then yeah, it is easier than it sounds.

Someone was talking earlier about Bass solo's, i don't think Call of Ktulu was mentioned. That is one hard bass line to follow.

[hellraiser123]

seriously? the mop solo sounds hard...it must be easier than it sounds? as for fade to black....im lookin for a thrashier song to do live...with a 'possible to play' solo.....doesnt have to be metallica.....know any pantera solos that are 'wingable' besides this love?

dude try 'cemetry gates' by pantera, the solo in that is awesome and with enough practise, can be pulled off.

[metallicamaniac16]

buy this past tour. i really like the one i went too, in Washington D.C. on Oct. 17th. the set list is absolutely amazing and the songs are great
wow, that is a good playlist. how can i find this cd?

[hellraiser123]

does anyone know some easier metallica solos to play? Ive played 4 years and am half decent, but still cannot manage such great solos as the one on master of puppets, however i can play the ones in orion. i have a show coming up soon....any suggestions on a couple to play that woulkdnt be too hard to pull off? thanks

Try the slow solo in puppets or the solo in sad but true. i learnt it the other day and it sounds awesome.

[JACKROXYOU]

wow, that is a good playlist. how can i find this cd?

you cant you have to buy it from them

unless its already on kazaa or imesh or any of those download sites

[\m/Pete\m/]

dude try 'cemetry gates' by pantera, the solo in that is awesome and with enough practise, can be pulled off.

5 min. Alone...easy

[FFbassist26]

on any instrument, what would you guys say is the hardest tallica song to learn and or play?

[^Dream~Theater^]

on any instrument, what would you guys say is the hardest tallica song to learn and or play?
Disposeable Heroes or Dyers Eve for guitar

[IheartSP]

on any instrument, what would you guys say is the hardest tallica song to learn and or play?
i know nothing of drums, but id say fight fire with fire sounds really hard on drums, especially in the bridge

on guitar master of puppets is extremely tiring if you play it right, with all downpicking

[leomondaine]

Blackened Bass using Fingers :amaze:
i play guitar and i cant imagine doing half of the fast metallica stuff on bass with fingers. Rob is a god

[JACKROXYOU]

yea you have to be incredibly fast player to play some of that

guitar on the end of sanitarium, end of one, and disposable heroes

[metallicamaniac16]

rhythm guitar for Whiplash isnt that hard, but around the 2nd or 3rd verse, it gets pretty tiring if you're playin it fast enough

[metallicamaniac16]

you cant you have to buy it from them

unless its already on kazaa or imesh or any of those download sites
sorry, i dont know much about gettin these cds. how do i buy it from them if i dont want to get nailed for downloadin it off the internet?

[\m/Pete\m/]

I'd have to say Blackened is one of the hardest Metallica songs to play. That last solo in it is awesome.

To Live Is To Die is no walk on the park either...maybe on the drums

[MetallicAguy]

i would have to say Dyers Eve is the hardest song to play to date.

[RiceMonster]

i would have to say Dyers Eve is the hardest song to play to date.
Bang on.

[JACKROXYOU]

sorry, i dont know much about gettin these cds. how do i buy it from them if i dont want to get nailed for downloadin it off the internet?

wow its just http://www.livemetallica.com but dont worry they dont bust recreational downloading

[JACKROXYOU]

hey i got 9,600 nice

[Burdcheese]

^^ and 9601 :rolleyes:

[appreciate_it]

[/QUOTE]does anyone know some easier metallica solos to play? Ive played 4 years and am half decent, but still cannot manage such great solos as the one on master of puppets, however i can play the ones in orion. i have a show coming up soon....any suggestions on a couple to play that woulkdnt be too hard to pull off? thanks[QUOTE]

Hit the lights or seek and destroy?

[hellraiser123]

does anyone know some easier metallica solos to play? Ive played 4 years and am half decent, but still cannot manage such great solos as the one on master of puppets, however i can play the ones in orion. i have a show coming up soon....any suggestions on a couple to play that woulkdnt be too hard to pull off? thanks

Hit the lights or seek and destroy?

seek and destroy would be far easier than hit the lights. or you could try sanitarium.

[Joe]

fade to black is fairly easy. so is nothing else matters. or you could do anything from st anger...:lol:

[zombies and robots]

My other thread with this got deleted, I didnt see th officail thread on teh first pag so:



I used to be a huge metallica fan. After I heard Megadeth I started listening to them more and more (plz do not turn this into a Megadeth vrs. Metallica thread). I eventually moved on to other types of metal, but I still listen to megadeth.

I recently went back and listen to Master of Puppets and I almost barfed, for many reasons. First of was Kirk Hammetts flashy solos. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate shred, but I think its concept is stupid. It has nothing to do with emotion and is only about playing as fast as possible. And yes many bands I listen to shred, but they do it in a way that shows some emotion or sounds interesting (Chuck Shuldiner). Kirk Hammetts Solos are all flash, no substance. They are absolutly boring. Second, the bass and scooped eq's. Metallica LOVES to scoop their eq's. This is one of the dumbest things EVER. Sure, when your playing alone it sounds awsome, but when playing with other people you cant hear the bassist. I know that Cliff Burton was a good bassist
but you cant hear him at all. Leaving out a nessisary insturment is a HUGE minus. Third, LARS. I think im better than him at drums, and I dont even play the drums. A lot of his drum beats are soo simplistic they dont fit in with the music. That not even include some of leper messiahs drum fills, where he basically hits on the snare at an 8th note rythm as hard as he can. Wow, creative lars. Fourth, uninspired chromatic riffs. I have heard many amazing chromatic riffs before (I do listen to deth metal), but come on. What the **** is so great about that master of puppets riff? I just cant stand that 2 note pattern followed by three differ asending or decending notes. Lasty they have some awful attempts at being melodic. That master of puppets solo relies so heavily on music theory its not funny. Trust me on this, im taking a thoery class right now. Every not is selected according to what theory says should sound good. All you need to write something like that is a sheet of paper and a pencil. Thats about it. Forget writing with emotion, ill write using math.

I am preparded to get flamed, but no matter WHAT DO NOT TURN THINS INTO A METALLICA VRS. MEGADETH THREAD. If you respond by correction my spelling or grammer you are obiously not smart enough to counter my statment with a short paragraph I could compose in third grade.

[Joe]

My other thread with this got deleted, I didnt see th officail thread on teh first pag so:



I used to be a huge metallica fan. After I heard Megadeth I started listening to them more and more (plz do not turn this into a Megadeth vrs. Metallica thread). I eventually moved on to other types of metal, but I still listen to megadeth.

I recently went back and listen to Master of Puppets and I almost barfed, for many reasons. First of was Kirk Hammetts flashy solos. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate shred, but I think its concept is stupid. It has nothing to do with emotion and is only about playing as fast as possible. And yes many bands I listen to shred, but they do it in a way that shows some emotion or sounds interesting (Chuck Shuldiner). Kirk Hammetts Solos are all flash, no substance. They are absolutly boring. Second, the bass and scooped eq's. Metallica LOVES to scoop their eq's. This is one of the dumbest things EVER. Sure, when your playing alone it sounds awsome, but when playing with other people you cant hear the bassist. I know that Cliff Burton was a good bassist
but you cant hear him at all. Leaving out a nessisary insturment is a HUGE minus. Third, LARS. I think im better than him at drums, and I dont even play the drums. A lot of his drum beats are soo simplistic they dont fit in with the music. That not even include some of leper messiahs drum fills, where he basically hits on the snare at an 8th note rythm as hard as he can. Wow, creative lars. Fourth, uninspired chromatic riffs. I have heard many amazing chromatic riffs before (I do listen to deth metal), but come on. What the **** is so great about that master of puppets riff? I just cant stand that 2 note pattern followed by three differ asending or decending notes. Lasty they have some awful attempts at being melodic. That master of puppets solo relies so heavily on music theory its not funny. Trust me on this, im taking a thoery class right now. Every not is selected according to what theory says should sound good. All you need to write something like that is a sheet of paper and a pencil. Thats about it. Forget writing with emotion, ill write using math.

I am preparded to get flamed, but no matter WHAT DO NOT TURN THINS INTO A METALLICA VRS. MEGADETH THREAD. If you respond by correction my spelling or grammer you are obiously not smart enough to counter my statment with a short paragraph I could compose in third grade.

oooooooooh man...
ok
1) i can tell you are hardly a metallica fan because you obviously haven't heard any solos off any other cd besides puppets. You can tell me the intros to Fade to Black and One and the solo on Nothing Else Matters are "flashy" and without "emotion" and with no "substance" whenever you decide to listen to another cd.
2) I wanna see a solo you wrote. send me an mp3 of it or something. "they are so boring" dude look at a tab, try to play it, then see it live. your full of bull ****
3) Cliff Burton was an amazing bassist. Have you ever heard Orion? You must have! the only cd you have,apparently, is MOP. The bass is amazing in Orion. Yes most of the time you cannot hear the bass, but you can in quite a number of songs.
4) yea your right, your spelling sucks ***
5) music theory is an important thing. but he doesn't write everything according to theory. but of course your whole post had to do with one song
6) just out of curiousty, whose fault was it for the riff at the end of the solo in Ride The lightning?? It's soooo sloppy...either mustaine or lars...
7) how would this get to be a megadeth v metallica thread?? one, megadeth broke up. two, mustaine's already apologized for everything
8) i notice you didn't mention james hetfield. is it because you have only heard puppets and you came to your senses and realized that is one of the greatest riffs?

[zombies and robots]

oooooooooh man...
ok
1) i can tell you are hardly a metallica fan because you obviously haven't heard any solos off any other cd besides puppets. You can tell me the intros to Fade to Black and One and the solo on Nothing Else Matters are "flashy" and without "emotion" and with no "substance" whenever you decide to listen to another cd.
2) I wanna see a solo you wrote. send me an mp3 of it or something. "they are so boring" dude look at a tab, try to play it, then see it live. your full of bull ****
3) Cliff Burton was an amazing bassist. Have you ever heard Orion? You must have! the only cd you have,apparently, is MOP. The bass is amazing in Orion. Yes most of the time you cannot hear the bass, but you can in quite a number of songs.
4) yea your right, your spelling sucks ***
5) music theory is an important thing. but he doesn't write everything according to theory. but of course your whole post had to do with one song
6) just out of curiousty, whose fault was it for the riff at the end of the solo in Ride The lightning?? It's soooo sloppy...either mustaine or lars...
7) how would this get to be a megadeth v metallica thread?? one, megadeth broke up. two, mustaine's already apologized for everything
8) i notice you didn't mention james hetfield. is it because you have only heard puppets and you came to your senses and realized that is one of the greatest riffs?

First off, I can send you midi files of thing that I have written. I am not a great songwriter, but I am getting progressivly better. The song I will send you is not done (as in im cutting out the second half because its not good enough yet). Second Eniglish is not my first language, so plz do not comment on it (i am trying very hard to learn it).

Second I know ALOT about Metallica. The only reason I didnt metion James is because I do not have as much of a problem with him as I do of the other members of the band. Yes I have heard Orion, I have Master of Puppets, and I find to be the only song I like on the album. I have the following metallica cd's: kill em all, ride the lightning, puppets, and justice for all, and S&M. And yes many things James writes while hes read the book of music theory cliches.

[Joe]

First off, I can send you midi files of thing that I have written. I am not a great songwriter, but I am getting progressivly better. The song I will send you is not done (as in im cutting out the second half because its not good enough yet). Second Eniglish is not my first language, so plz do not comment on it (i am trying very hard to learn it).

Second I know ALOT about Metallica. The only reason I didnt metion James is because I do not have as much of a problem with him as I do of the other members of the band. Yes I have heard Orion, I have Master of Puppets, and I find to be the only song I like on the album. I have the following metallica cd's: kill em all, ride the lightning, puppets, and justice for all, and S&M. And yes many things James writes while hes read the book of music theory cliches.

ok so now reply to those songs i listed and about kirk's solos

[zombies and robots]

I listen to classical music alot, so i am quite the melody snob. I cant stand noth else matters, Fade to Black is ok, and One, in my opinion, sucks. Talk about feining emotion.

Look at Kirks Crappy solos, which reach there peak of craptacularness in "Battery"

Ill continue this dicussion tommarow. Its bedtime.

[vai61]

Just cause they have some easy songs with slwoer or simple solos doesn't mean they suck. And what are you talking about craptacualr? If they're so crappy why did they last from 1983-around 1995?

[metal_milita]

My other thread with this got deleted, I didnt see th officail thread on teh first pag so:



I used to be a huge metallica fan. After I heard Megadeth I started listening to them more and more (plz do not turn this into a Megadeth vrs. Metallica thread). I eventually moved on to other types of metal, but I still listen to megadeth.

I recently went back and listen to Master of Puppets and I almost barfed, for many reasons. First of was Kirk Hammetts flashy solos. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate shred, but I think its concept is stupid. It has nothing to do with emotion and is only about playing as fast as possible. And yes many bands I listen to shred, but they do it in a way that shows some emotion or sounds interesting (Chuck Shuldiner). Kirk Hammetts Solos are all flash, no substance. They are absolutly boring. Second, the bass and scooped eq's. Metallica LOVES to scoop their eq's. This is one of the dumbest things EVER. Sure, when your playing alone it sounds awsome, but when playing with other people you cant hear the bassist. I know that Cliff Burton was a good bassist
but you cant hear him at all. Leaving out a nessisary insturment is a HUGE minus. Third, LARS. I think im better than him at drums, and I dont even play the drums. A lot of his drum beats are soo simplistic they dont fit in with the music. That not even include some of leper messiahs drum fills, where he basically hits on the snare at an 8th note rythm as hard as he can. Wow, creative lars. Fourth, uninspired chromatic riffs. I have heard many amazing chromatic riffs before (I do listen to deth metal), but come on. What the **** is so great about that master of puppets riff? I just cant stand that 2 note pattern followed by three differ asending or decending notes. Lasty they have some awful attempts at being melodic. That master of puppets solo relies so heavily on music theory its not funny. Trust me on this, im taking a thoery class right now. Every not is selected according to what theory says should sound good. All you need to write something like that is a sheet of paper and a pencil. Thats about it. Forget writing with emotion, ill write using math.

I am preparded to get flamed, but no matter WHAT DO NOT TURN THINS INTO A METALLICA VRS. MEGADETH THREAD. If you respond by correction my spelling or grammer you are obiously not smart enough to counter my statment with a short paragraph I could compose in third grade.

alright... whatever that was that I just read clearly came off a megadeth magazine. I can't stand to even think about how uninformed and clearly un-researched that anti-metallica propaganda bs was. For one, that "chromatic descending ascending riff" from MOP was invented by your precious Dave Mustaine (not made up, INVENTED. its called a SPIDER chord (or so iIve heard). Don't believe me? He's only bitched about it all his megadeth life. And I would pay you a million bucks to sit on a drumset and play "fight fire with fire" or "dyers eve" you cocky little -.

[JACKROXYOU]

welcome vai

well since zombies and robots got banned i guess i cant rebuttle

o well

[metal_milita]

welcome vai

well since zombies and robots got banned i guess i cant rebuttle

o well

He'll be back....

[Joe]

I listen to classical music alot, so i am quite the melody snob. I cant stand noth else matters, Fade to Black is ok, and One, in my opinion, sucks. Talk about feining emotion.

Look at Kirks Crappy solos, which reach there peak of craptacularness in "Battery"

Ill continue this dicussion tommarow. Its bedtime.

wow. you think one sucks?? thats like 1 in about a billion metallica fans...

how about the unforgiven? you like that song? talk about no soul. suuure... it's an amazing solo!

He'll be back....

oh yippee

[btoto]

My other thread with this got deleted, I didnt see th officail thread on teh first pag so:



I used to be a huge metallica fan. After I heard Megadeth I started listening to them more and more (plz do not turn this into a Megadeth vrs. Metallica thread). I eventually moved on to other types of metal, but I still listen to megadeth.

I recently went back and listen to Master of Puppets and I almost barfed, for many reasons. First of was Kirk Hammetts flashy solos. Dont get me wrong, I dont hate shred, but I think its concept is stupid. It has nothing to do with emotion and is only about playing as fast as possible. And yes many bands I listen to shred, but they do it in a way that shows some emotion or sounds interesting (Chuck Shuldiner). Kirk Hammetts Solos are all flash, no substance. They are absolutly boring. Second, the bass and scooped eq's. Metallica LOVES to scoop their eq's. This is one of the dumbest things EVER. Sure, when your playing alone it sounds awsome, but when playing with other people you cant hear the bassist. I know that Cliff Burton was a good bassist
but you cant hear him at all. Leaving out a nessisary insturment is a HUGE minus. Third, LARS. I think im better than him at drums, and I dont even play the drums. A lot of his drum beats are soo simplistic they dont fit in with the music. That not even include some of leper messiahs drum fills, where he basically hits on the snare at an 8th note rythm as hard as he can. Wow, creative lars. Fourth, uninspired chromatic riffs. I have heard many amazing chromatic riffs before (I do listen to deth metal), but come on. What the **** is so great about that master of puppets riff? I just cant stand that 2 note pattern followed by three differ asending or decending notes. Lasty they have some awful attempts at being melodic. That master of puppets solo relies so heavily on music theory its not funny. Trust me on this, im taking a thoery class right now. Every not is selected according to what theory says should sound good. All you need to write something like that is a sheet of paper and a pencil. Thats about it. Forget writing with emotion, ill write using math.

I am preparded to get flamed, but no matter WHAT DO NOT TURN THINS INTO A METALLICA VRS. MEGADETH THREAD. If you respond by correction my spelling or grammer you are obiously not smart enough to counter my statment with a short paragraph I could compose in third grade.

Oh man, I remeber you :thumb: Yesterday we were talking in your thread. I wrote my second post in there and when it was done, the thread was already closed :evil: :upset:

OK here it is: (yesterday's post in your thread)

To Threadstarter
-----------------

right, you were..............and you hate them because you discovered Megadeth??? I discovered 'deth a year ago. And I listened to 'tallica for 4-5 years. I admit, I loved 'deth, I fell in love with great melodies, fast riffing, awesome solos (mostly Poland's) and whole mood of their songs.

How can you say Kirk just shreds??? Yes, his solos may sound boring to some people (for example I hate almost whole of his work on Justice album), however his solos always somehow fit the certain song. There's no other band who's solos I can remember in my mind from A to Z, including every note. Kirk showed awesome work on Load or Reload. If you want emotional solos, dig into those albums......have you ever listened to them??? HELLO??? Or you just ignored them just because every "cool" 'tallica fan says they're garbage???

About Lars, I fvcking hate when people compare him to Lombardo, Cavalera, Menza or any fvcking body else ! Lars may not be a drummer virtuoso, but all of you have to realize that he's a songwriter........not just a session drummer ! If you like any 'tallica song, you have to thank Lars for it just as much you thank James ! Lars's the guy who took a huge part in songwriting, He was the guy who introduced Hethfield to Diamond Head, Motorhead, Venom, Saxon, Angel Witch and $hit like that, when James was headbanging to Kiss and Black Sabbath.

anyway.......... :upset:

[Chu]

wow. you think one sucks?? thats like 1 in about a billion metallica fans...
One does suck.... And I love Metallica...

By the way.. The bass in Leper Messiah is amazing...

[btoto]

^ yes, One is too overplayed ! I don't like it so much too

[JACKROXYOU]

One does suck.... And I love Metallica...

By the way.. The bass in Leper Messiah is amazing...


yea leper's messiah is awsome very underrated

that stinks you dont like one. o well i like it fine. is it my favorite song? no but i still think its one of their best

[Chu]

yea leper's messiah is awsome very underrated

that stinks you dont like one. o well i like it fine. is it my favorite song? no but i still think its one of their best
I was listenning to Leper Messiah as I posted, that's right :)

[JACKROXYOU]

really i started playin it when i saw your post.

i love that song

[btoto]

Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet,
Make a contribution
And you'll get a better seaaaat !
----------------------

One of my favourites too :thumb:

[DeathRattle]

undefinedamen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)
Hey, i just saw your post, and i wanted to give you some help with these songs you are looking for. I have been a Metallica fan, for years, and in my opinion, Dyers Eve, Damage Inc., No Remorse, Call of Ktulu, are my favorite songs. They combine the elements, of heavy guitars, insane solos, and just great song writing. Kirk Hammet = God of guitar

[DeathRattle]

This message is to the zombies and robots guy, first off, i know hes banned or whatever, but let me clear this up.
1) STEP OFF KIRK he is one of the best metal guitar players ever. You say he has no emotion? Let me tell you this, when a close friend of yours dies, all you have is emotion as a musician. Kirk has tons of emotion in his solos. I know, the same thing happened to me, when my friend allen died, he was the drummer from one of my bands, anyway, the no emotion line is total BS
2) Without kirk, and the work of metallica, the whole metal scene wouldn't have taken that giant step forward. Don't get me wrong, black sabbath is like the godfather of metal, but metallica perfected it.
3) If you think those solos are so bad, go learn fade to black, Master of Puppets, Dyers Eve, even the cover of stone cold crazy, though short, it was amazing.
4) Basically don't bash someone who kicks A$$ at soloing, if you yourself can't play them in the first place

[Squirrel]

i still have the most posts in here :cool:

wait, thats not an acheivement :(

[Joe]

yea leper's messiah is awsome very underrated

that stinks you dont like one. o well i like it fine. is it my favorite song? no but i still think its one of their best

yea it is underrated. i think disposable heros is underrated too. it's never on the radio.

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

lol i just downloaded Mtv Icon: Metallica, and at the end they played frantic, it was so lame. The audience was like :eek:

I also downloaded the Live **** Dvd (1989) and it rocks

[JACKROXYOU]

lol i just downloaded Mtv Icon: Metallica, and at the end they played frantic, it was so lame. The audience was like :eek:

I also downloaded the Live **** Dvd (1989) and it rocks

yea we dont like to talk about mtv icons

maybe it has to do with sum 41

[Joe]

dude, man. i kno it's expensive but ppl gota stop downloading stuff.
1 it's illegal
2 it's gunna put the entertainment business out of business

[JACKROXYOU]

dude, man. i kno it's expensive but ppl gota stop downloading stuff.
1 it's illegal
2 it's gunna put the entertainment business out of business

yea i just do it recreationally, which means i just do it if i cant find something or the rest of the cd sucks

[Joe]

yea i just do it recreationally, which means i just do it if i cant find something or the rest of the cd sucks

i used to. but when they sued napster and started arresting people that had any amounts of songs i stopped and now im anti-downloading music

[JACKROXYOU]

they never scared me away

any ways yea i think disposable heroes and lepers messiah are underated

any one think one is underrated? just kidding folks

[Joe]

any one think one is underrated? just kidding folks

no but i honestly think fade to black is underrated. what an amazing song (my personal fav) with 2 incredible solos (and one small good solo) that is rarely on the radio. they play sandman too much and one too much. i wanna hear other songs off those cd's like ...AJFA and Holier than Thou and Sad But True. i also think ride the lightning is pretty underrated, thats never on the radio and rarely played in concert

[Po0sH]

they never scared me away

any ways yea i think disposable heroes and lepers messiah are underated

any one think one is underrated? just kidding folks
Definitely those are underrated, they are awesome songs.

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

yea we dont like to talk about mtv icons

maybe it has to do with sum 41

You're stupid.

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

The Live **** DVD (1989) is awesome.

[Joe]

are you serious????? GREAT! im supposedly getting it for xmas!

[Demonstration]

Meh i didnt like it- anything post cliff isnt for me

[Joe]

Meh i didnt like it- anything post cliff isnt for me

do they have any vhs/dvd during cliff's time in metallica?

[metal_milita]

i just heard blackened for the first time. For people that have yet to download this AJFA song, DO IT. holy crap, it is one of the last true metallica songs (by true, I mean its not like 'fuel' or 'enter sandman' or heaven forbid 'st.angerish.' it actually has a story and moral to it). I've always thought AJFA was their last good album because it had only a couple of good songs (one, dyers eve) but every single song on that CD is awsome.
I sound very noobish. I guess I am

[metal_milita]

yea we dont like to talk about mtv icons

maybe it has to do with sum 41
.... I like sum41.... the new kind anyways.

don't flame me.

[Joe]

i just heard blackened for the first time. For people that have yet to download this AJFA song, DO IT. holy crap, it is one of the last true metallica songs (by true, I mean its not like 'fuel' or 'enter sandman' or heaven forbid 'st.angerish.' it actually has a story and moral to it). I've always thought AJFA was their last good album because it had only a couple of good songs (one, dyers eve) but every single song on that CD is awsome.
I sound very noobish. I guess I am

yea listen to the whole ajfa. blackened is pretty cool, AJFA is amazing, One is really amazing, and the other ones are pretty cool

[Po0sH]

I love the song The Four Horsemen, who else does?

[Joe]

.... I like sum41.... the new kind anyways.

don't flame me.

it's ok, it might be a little wiser to admit certain bands you like in those threads tho... :thumb:

[JACKROXYOU]

You're stupid.

i'm stupid?

i watched sum 41 ruin for whom the bells toll and master of puppets in less then 6 min.

[JACKROXYOU]

any ways four horse men is a great song

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

i'm stupid?

i watched sum 41 ruin for whom the bells toll and master of puppets in less then 6 min.

You're an idiot. They were doing a Metallica medley to show their respect towards them. Another reason you're an idiot is because you tryed to flame me for downloaded Metallica Icon and I said when they played Frantic it was lame. I was talking about Metallica, not Sum 41. Now go learn how to read and how to have a decent conversation with someone.

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

I love the song The Four Horsemen, who else does?

It's a great song.

[ThrashMaster27]

do they have any vhs/dvd during cliff's time in metallica?

Yeah, Cliff 'Em All has footage of the band when Cliff was in Metallica.

[Freezing Moon]

Yeah, Cliff 'Em All has footage of the band when Cliff was in Metallica.


Has anybody seen the part where Kirk puts his guitar over the crowd and they take it from him, then he sends security after it?? Funny stuff.

[metal_milita]

i'm stupid?

i watched sum 41 ruin for whom the bells toll and master of puppets in less then 6 min.
because ever OTHER band apart from sum41 can put up exact and awsome performances of that easy song right? they tried their hardest and they were pretty good. If you're bitching about sum41 killing MOP and FWTBT, how come you haven't mentioned limp bizkit butchering Sanitarium or Avril on Fuel?

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

Why did James go to rehab? He has enough money to buy alcohol for the rest of his life.

[I'mhungryForASandwich]

Has anybody seen the part where Kirk puts his guitar over the crowd and they take it from him, then he sends security after it?? Funny stuff.

:lol:

[RiceMonster]

I love the song The Four Horsemen, who else does?
I do, probably my favourite of Kill Em All.

[metal_milita]

Why did James go to rehab? He has enough money to buy alcohol for the rest of his life.
... I don't he quit the booze because he couldn't pay for it. He quit because he said it was controlling him and making him a hypocrite (think MOP)

[Burdcheese]

i watched sum 41 ruin for whom the bells toll and master of puppets in less then 6 min.

Apart from the guitar/bass tone it was actually pretty good.

Though of course my favourite part of the Icon was Snoop Dogg doing Sad But True :lol: :p


Oh and that Zombies guy was an idiot of the highest order...

[ThrashMaster27]

I've seen one MTV Icon performance and that was Avrils. I thought it was funny seeing Lars in the crowd acting like a tit. Brightened up my day I can tell you.

[Burdcheese]

I've seen one MTV Icon performance and that was Avrils. I thought it was funny seeing Lars in the crowd acting like a tit. Brightened up my day I can tell you.

And whats wrong with air double bassing?



:upset:

[ThrashMaster27]

Haha, nothing aslong as you can pull it off.

[Burdcheese]

:lol: so true

[Frobb]

but lars, despite being a "fundamental drummer in metal history" always acts like a ****. IMHO the rest of the band had to write their songs to get around his eccentricities. the best moment i've seen was when Joey Jordison sat in Lars' throne at the download festivel UK 2004 for a set.

[shortass]

I do, probably my favourite of Kill Em All.
My favourite off kill em' all would probably be Seek & Destroy

[Leatherface69]

hey I seriously hope they don't do another record like ST. ANGER...that's just cheap new metal if you ask me. SNARE DRUMS ? 7 minutes songs without solos, that must be the weakest way to fill an album - with those third class tracks. Man I'm looking back to 91 when the Black Album came out...but I guess that record was the end of the real Metallica..LOAD sucked, RELOAD sucked, ST ANGER sucked, I hope they got their vibe back on their tour when they played their old songs...

[Burdcheese]

Black, Load and Reload were good, but I'd like to see a return to the Metallica of MOP.

[Joe]

Black, Load and Reload were good, but I'd like to see a return to the Metallica of MOP.

black was actually very good, IMO. too much wah pedal, but i liked the songs a lot. it wasn't the old metallica but it was still pretty awesome. I really want whatever the next metallica cd is to be another MOP, RTL, or AJFA

[Burdcheese]

I liked a lot of the songs on it, but for me the album as a whole never really came together properly.

I wouldn't mind a new album being like AJFA either - as long as it was well produced :p

[JACKROXYOU]

because ever OTHER band apart from sum41 can put up exact and awsome performances of that easy song right? they tried their hardest and they were pretty good. If you're bitching about sum41 killing MOP and FWTBT, how come you haven't mentioned limp bizkit butchering Sanitarium or Avril on Fuel?

yea dont remind me of avril but man that sum singer blew. avril's cover used to keep me up at night

[Burdcheese]

I don't know why so many people complain about the Lavigne version of Fuel. The Band played it perfectly, she doesn't have too unpleasant a voice and the lyrics are far from the most important part of the song anyway.

I will however agree that I hate the voice of Sum41's singer. I'd forgotten all about it. But they did the music well.

[stonecoldcrazy]

Look Metallica Kicks All Other Bands *** easily (except IRON MAIDEN) without even the whole band for example it can be like James Hetfield Soloing Vs. All of Slipknot and yet james Will Kick their *** like nothing even happened!!!Now If it was Adrian Smith Vs. James Hetfield I would call it a tie!! you?

[Joe]

Look Metallica Kicks All Other Bands *** easily (except IRON MAIDEN) without even the whole band for example it can be like James Hetfield Soloing Vs. All of Slipknot and yet james Will Kick their *** like nothing even happened!!!Now If it was Adrian Smith Vs. James Hetfield I would call it a tie!! you?

thats cuz slipknot isn't good. hetfield is amazing, true, but slipknot isn't good. adrian smith vs hetfield? what about hammett?

[metallicamaniac16]

Here's my little bit on mtv icon. Sum 41, while they played the music well, his voice just doesnt match James's. Korn also played most of the music well, but they cut out my favorite part of one: the ending solo. Also, I hate their vocalist's voice. I enjoyed Staind's version of Nothing Else Matters, but they cut out half of the song including the interlude, and once again, the solo. Avril Lavienge (I dont have a clue how to spell her name) would have been good if she was a guy. Her voice just didnt fit Fuel. Limp Bizkit's performance of Sanitarium, IMO, was pretty good until Fred started to try to pump up the crowd, then it turned gay. Snoop Dogg's version of Sad But True had me in a fit of laughter for about 10 minutes, and I thank him for that. Metallica kicked a** when they played Hit the Lights, Creeping Death, Blackened, and Enter Sandman. But when they played Frantic, I just didnt like it. All things considered though, I enjoyed the whole thing, because even though the bands (and rapper) werent very good, it was all in respect for one of the greatest bands in history.

[Joe]

I enjoyed Staind's version of Nothing Else Matters, but they cut out half of the song including the interlude, and once again, the solo

hmmm i have this version of that song with no solos. and it cuts off right before the chorus before the solo. it sounds like james tho. does anyone know what it is from???

[metallicamaniac16]

I've heard several versions of what people think about Metallica's next album. While I wish I could believe that it would be a lot like MOP, I just dont think thats gonna happen. If you look at the direction they've been going in, they're starting to write grungeish, nu-metalish, sh*ttyish music. It sucks, but at least we have they're earlier albums.

[metallicamaniac16]

hmmm i have this version of that song with no solos. and it cuts off right before the chorus before the solo. it sounds like james tho. does anyone know what it is from???
Hmm, if it isnt from mtv icon, I dont know what it is.

[metallicamaniac16]

I just recently heard the song "Breadfan" on the radio, and I thought it was great. Does anyone know what album it's on? I wanna check it out.

[Freezing Moon]

^^^ Thanks for the tripple post.

I think that Metallica's new album will be somewhat along the lines of the black album. They have had a different style for such a long time that it would probably be difficult to make something similar to MoP. I believe that I read something saying St. Anger was an attempted "return to metal". I think that Metallica will read the reviews, etc. and realize that not many people liked it and try to end on a good note with their old fans.

As to St. Anger being grungeish, nu-metalish, sh*ttyish music....
Although to most Metallica fans St. Anger was a not-so-good album, to people more into nu-metal and similar stuff it was probably a great album. As a Metallica album it was horrible. As a nu-metal album it was was probably pretty good.

Also, I'm not a huge fan of grunge, but what was "grungeish" about it?

[The Fonz]

i havent really heard much of metallica in the way of albums... i have heard plenty of there songs and i think that they kick a$$ and i first got into them at camp when the kids in the dorm next to would play it all the time and id jus go over and hang out... now i just cant get enough... can ne one suggest a good album for me to bye?

[Whale and Wasp]

i havent really heard much of metallica in the way of albums... i have heard plenty of there songs and i think that they kick a$$ and i first got into them at camp when the kids in the dorm next to would play it all the time and id jus go over and hang out... now i just cant get enough... can ne one suggest a good album for me to bye?
and justice for all is really good....it got me obsessed with metallica

[Freezing Moon]

Buy all of them up to the black album. If you really like it then try some of their other stuff.

Suggested order...
1. Master Of Puppets
2. Ride The Lightning
3. ...And Justice For All
4. Kill 'Em All
5. Black Album

[Whale and Wasp]

does anyone else but me find battery, damage inc, and fight fire with fire kind of annoying?

[vai61]

I can't stand damage inc, when they came here I heard it I was like what the hell? when did they write that? I like battery and fight fire though. Fade to black is so overkilled.

[Rasta Rocker]

I can't stand damage inc, when they came here I heard it I was like what the hell? when did they write that? I like battery and fight fire though. Fade to black is so overkilled.

im a huge metallica fan, and when i heard they were coming out with st anger i was so excited, but it was a huge let down...maybe im old fashion

[Joe]

does anyone else but me find battery, damage inc, and fight fire with fire kind of annoying?

yes. they are pretty annoying


Fade to black is so overkilled.

???

[ThrashMaster27]

Look Metallica Kicks All Other Bands *** easily (except IRON MAIDEN) without even the whole band for example it can be like James Hetfield Soloing Vs. All of Slipknot and yet james Will Kick their *** like nothing even happened!!!Now If it was Adrian Smith Vs. James Hetfield I would call it a tie!! you?

I highly doubt James Hetfield could outsolo Mick Thompson. Maybe if you said Kirk Hammett, as he's the LEAD Guitarist, then I could have let you off with that one.

[shawnson]

very true. james hetfield isn't exactly highly skilled in soloing as mick thompson is, but kirk hammet is a sick soloist, so:
mick thompson solo > james hetfield solo
but
kirk hammet solo > mick thompson solo

[Freezing Moon]

Look Metallica Kicks All Other Bands *** easily (except IRON MAIDEN) without even the whole band for example it can be like James Hetfield Soloing Vs. All of Slipknot and yet james Will Kick their *** like nothing even happened!!!Now If it was Adrian Smith Vs. James Hetfield I would call it a tie!! you?

That is one of the most horrible biased/thoughtless posts ever.

How the hell could you even come up with one member of the band out-soloing a whole other band? How can you even compare the two?

[shawnson]

yeah, this is the "metallica" thread, not the "how-badly-i-think-james-hetfield-can-out-solo-slipknot" thread.

[guitarcreep13]

^^^ :lol:

[guitarcreep13]

good one

[Burdcheese]

I just recently heard the song "Breadfan" on the radio, and I thought it was great. Does anyone know what album it's on? I wanna check it out.

Its on Garage Inc.

[Chu]

I highly doubt James Hetfield could outsolo Mick Thompson. Maybe if you said Kirk Hammett, as he's the LEAD Guitarist, then I could have let you off with that one.
I once heard Mick can't alt. pick?
Now, if that is true, and only if it's true. James does own Mick.
If not well.. James still owns Mick, I'd like to see Mick do Creeping Death (Rhythm solo and all)...

[ThrashMaster27]

I once heard Mick can't alt. pick?
Now, if that is true, and only if it's true. James does own Mick.
If not well.. James still owns Mick, I'd like to see Mick do Creeping Death (Rhythm solo and all)...

Haha, there's been a vid of Mick doing a cheesy solo aswell as a ****load of otherstuff, but I forget the site it was on. James is NOT a soloist, I can play the whole of Creeping Death, it's not really that hard.

[btoto]

I once heard Mick can't alt. pick?
Now, if that is true, and only if it's true. James does own Mick.
If not well.. James still owns Mick, I'd like to see Mick do Creeping Death (Rhythm solo and all)...

Did you believe that???

I mean, the whole band must be stupid to accept a guitar player who can't alt pick. I hate when people exaggerate (spelling?) that much :upset:

[Joe]

very true. james hetfield isn't exactly highly skilled in soloing as mick thompson is, but kirk hammet is a sick soloist, so:
mick thompson solo > james hetfield solo
but
kirk hammet solo > mick thompson solo

james doesn't write fast or really skilled solos like kirk, but he writes pretty cool slower solos.

I once heard Mick can't alt. pick?
Now, if that is true, and only if it's true. James does own Mick.
If not well.. James still owns Mick, I'd like to see Mick do Creeping Death (Rhythm solo and all)...

yea if he can't alt. pick a whole lot of people own him. it'd be pretty interesting tho, it just takes practice to be able to alt pick and if your gunna be a lead and/or rythym guitarist you should be able to alt pick...

[Whale and Wasp]

james doesn't write fast or really skilled solos like kirk, but he writes pretty cool slower solos.

ive read somewhere that the only solo kirk wrote was creeping death....
i may be wrong though

[RideTheTiger]

Woooho... Just got ...And Justice For All as christmas-present from my brother :D
Now I just need RtL to complete my "Best Metallica Albums"-collection with Kill 'em All, RtL , MoP and ...AJFA : D

[JACKROXYOU]

congrads man another exaple of the joy of christmas

[KeinPlan]

Hey...
perhaps it was asked before but i'm a little too lazy to read 388 pages.
i only want to know if there will be a new album next year and what do you expect it to become?

[SoloLikeMad]

yeah i heard there was going to be one... have no clue of what its going to be like... hopefully a bit more like their older stuff.

[kirk_wylde]

Sorry have you all gone, mad James hetfield "owns"<wtf stupid net/street language Mick thompson at SOLOING.. hah u lot make me laugh my *** off. And As to "mick cant alternate pick" wtf, Mick is an outstanding guitarist one of the best of this decade and can alternate pick, if any of u saw the tg video lesson with him you'd know. > And I don't like slipknot that much. But I can tell u Mick KICKS HETFIELDS *** AT SOLOING. However. I LOVE METALLICA, and can safely say Hetfield is a very impressive rhythm guitarist and gets my greatest respect, But really Some of ur guys need to get ur facts straight before opening ur mouth.

Oh and WOW, DIAMOND HEAD are supporting Megadeth when they come to England in january/ february Soz.. only slightly metallica related but whatever.

[Fernandes Power]

I highly doubt James Hetfield could outsolo Mick Thompson. Maybe if you said Kirk Hammett, as he's the LEAD Guitarist, then I could have let you off with that one.

Then youre a fool... Mick Thompsons solos are atrocious... out of key, time and all done with a wah pedal.

[Darkness]

Sorry if this sounds stupid but I have to say that Mick Thompsons solos are complete trash, and Hetfeild is amazing compared to him. Good day.

[btoto]

Oh and WOW, DIAMOND HEAD are supporting Megadeth when they come to England in january/ february.

Oh, in early days we'd see just the opposite. i.e bands like 'tallica and 'deth supporting bands like D Head, Venom, Saxon etc :thumb:

[kirk_wylde]

I know, thats why I was like WOW.. It's completley bizzare, especially coz Mustaine orriginaly wanted diamond heads singer sean harris to sing for megadeth.

And btw the pulse of the maggots solo is amazing.. But i like hetfield better, still I stand ny what i said earlier,(althought regret the harshness of it) thompson=good player

[Joe]

ive read somewhere that the only solo kirk wrote was creeping death....
i may be wrong though

nooooo he's written every solo except ride the lightning, ktulu, and all of kill em all. he's only written one whole song, and that's sandman

[kirk_wylde]

I thought he did write the ride the lightning solo.. sounds far to complicated for hetfield
ANd Ktulu, theres a pretty complicated one in that too, are u sure kirk didn't write theese.

[Whale and Wasp]

Woooho... Just got ...And Justice For All as christmas-present from my brother :D

:thumb: have fun. its my favorite album

[Whale and Wasp]

Hey...
perhaps it was asked before but i'm a little too lazy to read 388 pages.
i only want to know if there will be a new album next year and what do you expect it to become?
they are starting it in january and it supposedly going to be like pink floyd....

[Whale and Wasp]

I thought he did write the ride the lightning solo.. sounds far to complicated for hetfield
ANd Ktulu, theres a pretty complicated one in that too, are u sure kirk didn't write theese.
dave mustaine wrote both of them

[btoto]

And btw the pulse of the maggots solo is amazing.. But i like hetfield better, still I stand ny what i said earlier,(althought regret the harshness of it) thompson=good player

I agree with you. I actually hate slipknot and didn't really hear much of their work but I say that people should stop exagerrating. If someone doesn't like a certain band it's his own problem, but saying that their lead guitarist can't alt pick.........oh come on :D

[btoto]

nooooo he's written every solo except ride the lightning, ktulu, and all of kill em all. he's only written one whole song, and that's sandman

1. He did write the lightning and ktulu solos ! Dave got credited because they used his riffs in those two songs. Dave did not write the solos on them.

2. He wrote the first Four Horsemen solo. And Hit The Lights solos were written by James and Lloyd Grant. All the rest on KEA by Dave.

3. Kirk did not write the whole Sandman. He came up with the main riff, that's all. Well, the whole song is based on that riff but anyway :upset:

4. Yes, Kirk is a very good guitarist (In case you think I hate him :p ). My favourite solos by him are: Leper Messiah, FFWF, Unforgiven II, Struggle Within. :thumb:

:wave:

[i_love_my_epiphone]

they are starting it in january and it supposedly going to be like pink floyd....[/QUOTE]


How you know they are going to be like Floyd? I hope the go back to the thrash metal they used to be like

[stdeath1101]

I thought he did write the ride the lightning solo.. sounds far to complicated for hetfield
ANd Ktulu, theres a pretty complicated one in that too, are u sure kirk didn't write theese.

in call of ktulu, its not just kirk that does soloing :thumb:

[btoto]

^ oh, how dare we forget Cliff ???!!! :thumb:

[metallicamaniac16]

(Maybe I can put this whole Slipknot thing to rest) Slipknot's guitarist is good for the music that they play, even if it doesn't sound good to someone who listens to different music. I don't like Slipknot at all, but that doesn't mean I have the right to say their guitarist sucks because I don't like the way he plays.

[metallicamaniac16]

^ oh, how dare we forget Cliff ???!!! :thumb:
Yea, Cliff kicked a*s.

[RiceMonster]

^ oh, how dare we forget Cliff ???!!! :thumb:
I love Cliff's solo in that song.

[Joe]

1. He did write the lightning and ktulu solos ! Dave got credited because they used his riffs in those two songs. Dave did not write the solos on them.

2. He wrote the first Four Horsemen solo. And Hit The Lights solos were written by James and Lloyd Grant. All the rest on KEA by Dave.

3. Kirk did not write the whole Sandman. He came up with the main riff, that's all. Well, the whole song is based on that riff but anyway :upset:

4. Yes, Kirk is a very good guitarist (In case you think I hate him :p ). My favourite solos by him are: Leper Messiah, FFWF, Unforgiven II, Struggle Within. :thumb:

:wave:

1) Well dave was in the booklet of the cd. If kirk wrote any of the song he should have been in there. And i guess your right about lightning, it sounds like a kirk solo

2) really now...

3) Yea the whole song is that riff but the chorus and pre chorus. he wrote the solo too

4) He's amazing. My favs are : Fade to Black, The Unforgiven, One, and Disposable Heros

[Joe]

I love Cliff's solo in that song.

Wasn't cliff's solo in Orion? I haven't heard Ktulu in a couple of weeks but i don't remember him with a solo in it

[JACKROXYOU]

yea dude its in orian

or unless its a hidden solo

[RiceMonster]

Wasn't cliff's solo in Orion? I haven't heard Ktulu in a couple of weeks but i don't remember him with a solo in it
You have to listen to hear it. Technically it isn't a solo because the guitars are playing during it. It starts when the distortion is turned on I believe.

[Joe]

You have to listen to hear it. Technically it isn't a solo because the guitars are playing during it. It starts when the distortion is turned on I believe.

So yea, it's not really a solo. Does he just play basically what the guitars are playing but more of what he wants or what?

[Joe]

So yea, it's not really a solo. Does he just play basically what the guitars are playing but more of what he wants or what?

ah nvm, i just looked up a few tabs and its considered a solo...just with the guitarists

[RiceMonster]

The one thing I've always wanted to know for sure is, did Mustaine write the solo for it or did Kirk? I know Mustaine co wrote it but I'm not sure who wrote the actual solo.

[Joe]

I don't know what your talking about, are you talking about Kill Em All or some of the RTL songs? or are you meaning Hetfield writing stuff for Kirk? Kirk writes his own solos

[RiceMonster]

I mean the solo on Call of Ktulu. Mustaine co wrote that song. I'm not sure If Kirk played Mustaine's solo or if he wrote his own.

[Fernandes Power]

nooooo he's written every solo except ride the lightning, ktulu, and all of kill em all. he's only written one whole song, and that's sandman

Mustaine didnt write all of the leads for Kill Em All...

He did write the one for RTL and he wrote the 3rd clean riff at the beginning of Ktulu (also heard in Hangar 18 by Megadeth). I think he wrote the solo for that too... thats the only thing im not sure on.

Cliffs solo is considered a solo... i mean the other instruments are playing during a guitar solo arent they...? :rolleyes:

And the 3rd guitar solo in Orion is actually a bass solo (with the two harmonizing lines) and the last solo was written by James

Kirk didnt play or record anything for Nothing Else Matters but he did write the main riff for Enter Sandman

[Joe]

Mustaine didnt write all of the leads for Kill Em All...

He did write the one for RTL and he wrote the 3rd clean riff at the beginning of Ktulu (also heard in Hangar 18 by Megadeth). I think he wrote the solo for that too... thats the only thing im not sure on.

Cliffs solo is considered a solo... i mean the other instruments are playing during a guitar solo arent they...? :rolleyes:

And the 3rd guitar solo in Orion is actually a bass solo (with the two harmonizing lines) and the last solo was written by James

Kirk didnt play or record anything for Nothing Else Matters but he did write the main riff for Enter Sandman

yea it is a solo

and where do you ppl find out all this stuff? i've learned it mostly over the last few months here at the forums

[Fernandes Power]

From people like me? :lol:

Various people, websites and books. Plus the section called 'Whiplash' in the Metallica fan club magazine provides alot of info. :thumb:

[Joe]

well no this is actually the first time i've seen you here in R&M. i've learned from a lot of people in these threads

I'm not in the club...i hear their are some great gift's and stuff. maybe i'll join the next year their on tour and get early tix

[Rasta Rocker]

anyone know of a new metallica cd? cause i sure hope its better than St Anger (not trying to offend anyone that likes St Anger, its just im more of the old metallica type)

[btoto]

I mean the solo on Call of Ktulu. Mustaine co wrote that song. I'm not sure If Kirk played Mustaine's solo or if he wrote his own.

Man, solo is the very last thing to write in a certain song. It's that way 99% times. If Dave wrote solo for Ktulu that means that the song was ready before Kirk joined them. But they never performed it with Dave in 1983, did they???

For the first time Ktulu was played already with Kirk. It took place in Las Cruces, NM, New-Mexico University on 08/28/1983. :thumb:

[Joe]

Man, solo is the very last thing to write in a certain song. It's that way 99% times. If Dave wrote solo for Ktulu that means that the song was ready before Kirk joined them. But they never performed it with Dave in 1983, did they???

For the first time Ktulu was played already with Kirk. It took place in Las Cruces, NM, New-Mexico University on 08/28/1983. :thumb:

you've got a point. the solo is more often than not the last thing ever written in a song...

[Helstrem00]

Metallicas changed alot over the years but atleast they kept the same style, theve gone through I think 3 bassist (correct me if Im wrong) ...

Who would you guys say is their best bassist?

My personal oppinion would be Jason :thumb:

[btoto]

^ *waits for Cliff fans to arrive*

[btoto]

^^ actually, they had 4 bassists. The first guy was Ron Welty, 1982-83 :thumb:

[JACKROXYOU]

you know ron! nobody knows ron

who was the chick that was with them for awhile?

[btoto]

I don't know any chick who was with them. Maybe you're talking about Marianne Faithful??? They recorded only one song with them

[JACKROXYOU]

i just remeber seeing this wierd live video and they're playin with a chick as the bass.

but then again it could have been rob from behind but im about 99% sure that it was a chick

[kirk_wylde]

Metallicas changed alot over the years but atleast they kept the same style, theve gone through I think 3 bassist (correct me if Im wrong) ...

Who would you guys say is their best bassist?

My personal oppinion would be Jason :thumb:

Acutally Jason is my least favourite for sum reason. At first I felt rob felt like just a session guy. But when he's played for Ozzy and BLS (wow zakk) and others i can't be bothered to mention u gotta love him. And of course (i hope)everyone loves cliff

[ThrashHead]

Yes! This Christmas is awesome! My radio station is playing 24 hours of Metallica today with no commericials! HELL YES!

I personally like Rob, when I saw them in concert I could tell a big diiference. Plus he's an awesome bassist. He was doing some crazy solos and stuff on the bass between songs.

[kirk_wylde]

i just remeber seeing this wierd live video and they're playin with a chick as the bass.

but then again it could have been rob from behind but im about 99% sure that it was a chick

Maybe one of the fans got to play with them as a fan club thing.. or it was rob. But no fulltime female basist

[JACKROXYOU]

thanks god**** clear channel my old rock station is now a latin rap station. so i get no metallica ever!!!!!!

[JACKROXYOU]

Maybe one of the fans got to play with them as a fan club thing.. or it was rob. But no fulltime female basist


o it might have been that

[btoto]

NO, Marianne is chick who sang on The Memory Remans. (worst tallica 'song)

[JACKROXYOU]

heh yea memory remains is not a shing example of james's singing

[kirk_wylde]

NO, Marianne is chick who sang on The Memory Remans. (worst tallica 'song)

yeah he was on about sum random live video, with (who he thinks is) a woman on bass.. dunno

Dosen't really matter though

[Rasta Rocker]

I think cliff was the best bassist, jason was a terrible bass player, he didn't play any of the good stuff like Kill em All or Master of Puppets, that was some good bass playing. Metallica firs did the insanely good stuff thats hard for people to cover, but then they did black album which is easy for the average schmo to play and thats with jason

[JACKROXYOU]

yea jason was just ok but thats why we have rob now

[Joe]

yea jason was just ok but thats why we have rob now

well jason didn't like bein with metallica any more. but your right, now they have rob and rob is probably the most skilled out of cliff (rip), jason, and himself. even tho cliff was the metallica bassist, he wasn't as skilled as rob is

[metallicamaniac16]

NO, Marianne is chick who sang on The Memory Remans. (worst tallica 'song)
Honestly, I like The Memory Remains, and the rest of Reload. But it definitely doesnt compare to Master of Puppets or Kill em All.

[Rasta Rocker]

rob kinda freaks me out...lose the pig tails...but metallica is back and nothing else matters

[azianmetalhead]

Yeah, atleast they're back to their heavy days. Unlike Load and Reload.

[Joe]

rob kinda freaks me out...lose the pig tails...but metallica is back and nothing else matters

he's so awesome. he's a pretty weird guy