Metallica Inc.

[Metallica Rules]

I believe every band and songs should be appreciated. No songs is composed in any easy manner, it takes time and hardwork. And every song is a masterpiece. I also believe music is universal. Although different people have different perspective into looking things such as musics, I do advice every one of u to appreciate all kinds of musics around. And those people out there who hates Metallica, at least shut the **** up if u don't appreciate.

K since it's getting abit boring, why don't we discuss about tabs and songs. Many Metallica tabs here aren't that accurate or played as their style. People improvised to easy methods which change the creator's way of playing.

[Metallica Rules]

No man is better than Cliff. Cliff 'em all and Cliff was god. If he was still alive, im sure he would have been god of bassist.

[Paranoidd]

its good to see that paranoidd has stfu for a bit.


Don't speak too soon.

I wish Metallica would get a new fvcking producer.

[jackz53]

i have 3 questions for you guys: (dont think im making fun of metallica, im personally a big fan myself)

1. why dont they solo anymore
2. why does Lars's snare sound so bad in the st anger album?
3. why is st anger dedicated to the prisoners of st quentin?

[Kingofdudes]

1. The solos they had "Dont fit with the music on St. Anger"
2&3 I dunno

[Paranoidd]

i have 3 questions for you guys: (dont think im making fun of metallica, im personally a big fan myself)

1. why dont they solo anymore
2. why does Lars's snare sound so bad in the st anger album?
3. why is st anger dedicated to the prisoners of st quentin?

Oh oh, me me!

1. Kirk feels he "doesn't have to prove anything to anybody." Funny, I thought the whole point of a solo was add to the music, not to make yourself out to be a guitar hero. I guess we don't think the same.

2. Well, there are two possible reasons, both concluding with Lars being an idiot. Either Lars used that snare by choice (idiot). Or, Bob Rock set up the snare, and Lars didn't change it (idiot).

3. No clue, but my guess is Metallica is having a mid-life crisis and trying to appear hardcore again.

[Squirrel]

St Anger is about pent up anger, something you get a lot of in prison.

[Paranoidd]

They could have called the album St. Anal then.

[Kingofdudes]

They could have called the album St. Anal then.
:naughty:

[Squirrel]

Yes.

Or any of the other words one may associate with prison.

Or not.

[\m/Pete\m/]

Oh oh, me me!

1. Kirk feels he "doesn't have to prove anything to anybody." Funny, I thought the whole point of a solo was add to the music, not to make yourself out to be a guitar hero. I guess we don't think the same.

2. Well, there are two possible reasons, both concluding with Lars being an idiot. Either Lars used that snare by choice (idiot). Or, Bob Rock set up the snare, and Lars didn't change it (idiot).

3. No clue, but my guess is Metallica is having a mid-life crisis and trying to appear hardcore again.

After watching the movie i can answer no.1

1.Kirk wrote a solo (kicked *** btw) came in to tell the others about it and Lars said that solo's out-date the music and make it sound out-dated. Kirk (and i totally agree with this) told him "By not soloing it lumps us into the same place as the ****ty trend with bands today. And I hate that trend" So they decided to have neither a rule of soloing nor a rule of no soloing. It just got left up to Kirk

2. You know throughout the movie his snare NEVER sounded like that, but i dont mind it so I cant really answer this one.

3. St. Anger was a saint that james had created in his anger managment class while he was in rehab to help with his anger problems

[guitarfrog]

After watching the movie i can answer no.1

1.Kirk wrote a solo (kicked *** btw) came in to tell the others about it and Lars said that solo's out-date the music and make it sound out-dated.
lars is a ****ing asshole!

[adamthebassist]

well, adamthebassist, i'm glad you think the thread is so cool. i'm starting to get tired of it. i think the idea is great, i love metallica, but you have to be careful about saying that or you might get called a "lapdog." the problem is that most of the people on here get way too defensive if you don't agree with their opinion, and then there's those others that come on here and say something just to purposely piss people off. but the worst is those that feel the need to "educate" us. it usually happens when another band is thrown into discussion (i.e. megadeth). Person 1: "I think Metallica is better than Megadeth." Person 2: "Oh no, no, no, Person 1 you are so wrong. Megadeth is so much better. In fact, I'm so much better! And this is why..." one band can sound better to YOU, but you can't say that one is better. it's like saying a turkey sandwich is better than a ham sandwich. wow, i could really go for one of those right now... oh yeah, anyways, they're different, it all depends on your taste. and some people try to say that one band is better because of the way they use scales or certain song-writing techniques or whatever. so what? just because a band doesn't use certain scales or write in different modes doesn't mean they can't do it, maybe they just don't like the way some of that stuff sounds. and just because you don't like to listen to what a band likes to play doesn't mean they suck. some of you try to compare bands and their music like it's a judged olympic event, something that has specific parameters and requirements and where precision can be measured. if you do that with music then you don't really understand it at all.

I totally agree with you. (sorry to quote the whole thing)

[ForTheMusic22]

ham > turkey
me > you



thanks for proving my point.

dumb@ss

[adamthebassist]

why does saint anger have that weird sound? I think everybody knows what i mean. The guitar's are weird, you can hardly hear the bass, and the drums..(oh, god the drums!!!)?? WTF??

[adamthebassist]

thanks for proving my point.

dumb@ss

:thumb: :lol:

[Kingofdudes]

thanks for proving my point.

dumb@ss

oh you owned me :rolleyes:

me > crap > vomit > St. Anger >>>>>>> you + adamtheretardedbassist

[adamthebassist]

oh you owned me :rolleyes:

me > crap > vomit > St. Anger >>>>>>> you

lol so you're one step above crap.......woohoo!

[ForTheMusic22]

oh you owned me :rolleyes:

me > crap > vomit > St. Anger >>>>>>> you

oh and again with the quick wit! ladies and gentlemen, we are truly in the presence of greatness! make sure you watch out for KingofDudes new album hitting stores soon! well, actually, no store would want to sell it, nor would anyone want to buy it, but hell, it MUST be better than anything metallica could put out! my god man, i thought paranoidd was getting annoying but at least he sounds intelligent.

[Kingofdudes]

lol so you're one step above crap.......woohoo!

dont worry I included you in it

[Kingofdudes]

oh and again with the quick wit! ladies and gentlemen, we are truly in the presence of greatness! make sure you watch out for KingofDudes new album hitting stores soon! well, actually, no store would want to sell it, nor would anyone want to buy it, but hell, it MUST be better than anything metallica could put out! my god man, i thought paranoidd was getting annoying but at least he sounds intelligent.

"B-b-b-b-b-but, St. Anger is still a good album, because it is METALLICA!!!!" St. Anger is a crap album. It sold on Metallica's name alone, if i made the album it wouldnt sell crap. There is nothing good about it, except maybe the vault pass. A lot of the songs are 2 minutes pieces of crap repeated 4 times to make them seem long. The guitar work on the album sucked, the drums are annoying as hell, and the bass..... no comment.


About me "proving your point". I really dont give a crap about your bitching which is why I put "ham > turkey".

[adamthebassist]

dont worry I included you in it

:p :lol:

[The Bell Tolls]

oh you owned me :rolleyes:

me > crap > vomit > St. Anger >>>>>>> you + adamtheretardedbassist
yea well, thats your opinion

St. anger > crap > "me"(you)> adamtheretardedbassist > the "you" guy i cant remember who it is > vomit.



because crap rules obviously. and St. anger has the unnamed feeling so..... yea.... but ya see they all suck goat balls and St. anger is. ok. ish. abit.

[CrAzYmEtaLLiCaFaN]

how can st anger be ok??? it has no solos!

[Squirrel]

Yes, because any music without solos is instantly crap.

Tard.

[dougefresh]

I can't wait for Metallica to come to Detroit!!! I'm seeing them October 1st which is in like 2 weeks minus 2 days. :thumb:

[CrAzYmEtaLLiCaFaN]

i didnt say it was crap. i meant that IN MY OPINION its crap because i love solos
could everyone stop with the unnecessary insults. its really childish to call someone names because they said something u dont completely agree with. no one said u had to agree with me?
(and yes to me, music without solos is instantly crap.)

[Squirrel]

I can't wait for Metallica to come to Detroit!!! I'm seeing them October 1st which is in like 2 weeks minus 2 days.

2 weeks = 14 days

14 - 2 = 12

So ... you saw them yesturday ?

i didnt say it was crap. i meant that IN MY OPINION its crap because i love solos
could everyone stop with the unnecessary insults. its really childish to call someone names because they said something u dont completely agree with. no one said u had to agree with me?
(and yes to me, music without solos is instantly crap.)

It was necessary, you made a dumb comment like that with no backup or reasoning.

You say im childish when youre the one that types likean idiot andcant evenback up his own opinion.

Also, "music to me without solos isinstantly crap", i dont even have to say anything about that - it's simply insults you without me having to try.

[CrAzYmEtaLLiCaFaN]

huh? why does my opinion make me stupid? and i type like an idiot? what?
man, people on this site are so irritating! they think they know it all. just because i didnt back it up, so what? does everything i say have to be a full essay? and i think everyone knows st anger isnt that good anyway, so even if i did back it up, it would merely be repeating what has already been rehashed a million times.
i guess some people have nothing better to do than sit on this site all day and think of ways to get at people.

[Squirrel]

Yes, i evidently sat on this forum all day waiting to take a stab at someone.

Well there's 2 ways this works -

1. Because of your lame reasoning you wont give a reason why you hate the album; hence making it a pointless and rather stupid looking statement.

2. We should assume you mean your opinion - which there is no hint of in your post - in which case youre pretty pathetic for hating music with out guitar solos.

[CrAzYmEtaLLiCaFaN]

ok i apologise for not saying IN MY OPINION i think music without solos is pretty crap. and i also apologise for generalising; obviously not all music fits into that category. but i think st anger without solos IS crap because solos were a major part of what metallica were all about and without them they've just become another "modernised" rock band.
happy? and i dont think u should have jumped down my throat like that. some of us dont have time to do majorly long posts giving 4 reasons for every statement we make. and no, we arent pathetic just for giving a reason.

[CreepingBlack]

ok i apologise for not saying IN MY OPINION i think music without solos is pretty crap. and i also apologise for generalising; obviously not all music fits into that category. but i think st anger without solos IS crap because solos were a major part of what metallica were all about and without them they've just become another "modernised" rock band.
happy? and i dont think u should have jumped down my throat like that. some of us dont have time to do majorly long posts giving 4 reasons for every statement we make. and no, we arent pathetic just for giving a reason.

Squirrel is right. I love solos, but saying any given piece of music is crap without a solo is a stupid and ignorant comment. If you say stuff like that on this forum, you will get flamed.

And by the way, i like St. Anger a lot.

[chuckles the silly piggy]

St Anger by alot of other bands would a good album and if you listen to it as an album its grand.But Metallica have such other good matreial that you are all compairing it to.

Any way would t you prefer hard 'n' heavy St anger to another soft Load album?

[Paranoidd]

I don't want another anything, I just want an album that doesn't suck.

[adamthebassist]

music without solos is crap......LMFAO. Thats like saying music without bass is good (god**** white stripes)

[chuckles the silly piggy]

It did 't suck all that hard.Its just lars s snare + no solos + songs that repeat over and over

Yeah the white strips do suck

[Paranoidd]

1.Kirk wrote a solo (kicked *** btw) came in to tell the others about it and Lars said that solo's out-date the music and make it sound out-dated. Kirk (and i totally agree with this) told him "By not soloing it lumps us into the same place as the ****ty trend with bands today. And I hate that trend" So they decided to have neither a rule of soloing nor a rule of no soloing. It just got left up to Kirk



And this is why Metallica sucks these days.

Lars is more worried about what everyone will think about the solo than the actual sound of it. How about you just play the music and stop worrying about what everything will think?

[chuckles the silly piggy]

maybe OR maybe its the fact tha Lars is a control freak and wont let any thing done aginst his wish
Kirk has the right idea but wont stnd up aginst Lars

[Kingofdudes]

yea well, thats a fact

"me"(you)> my mom


because crap rules obviously. and St. anger has the unnamed feeling so..... yea.... but ya see they all suck goat balls and St. anger is. ok. ish. abit.

Unnamed Feeling is mediocre at its best. But enough about St. Anger...

I really wish ticket prices were a tad bit cheaper, chances are I wont have the money to see them when they come to New Orleans.

[nicksilver101]

What tracks/cds does dave mustaine play guitar for in metallica?

[Lateralias]

What tracks/cds does dave mustaine play guitar for in metallica?

He wasnt on any CDs except for the Hit The Lights single I'm pretty sure. So yeah, he played Hit The Lights and I dunno the others, if there were any.

[ThrashMaster27]

He played in a couple of demos for them but aside from that he never recorded a full length CD with Metallica, he just contributed to a fair bit of Kill 'Em All and a touch of Ride The Lightning.

[CreepingBlack]

music without solos is crap......LMFAO. Thats like saying music without bass is good (god**** white stripes)

Yeah, youre right. Beetovens fifth symphony kinda sucked. It would have been great though if some random wanker would have put a solo in there. thanks, the world is now stupider. God, that is the single-worst statement i have ever heard. And its coming from a guy with a frickin Godsmack avatar. How can anybody be that stupid. Im asking you "Adam the bassist", how are you so stupid? Answer me. I can't wait, this is gonna be funny.

[CreepingBlack]

i have 3 questions for you guys: (dont think im making fun of metallica, im personally a big fan myself)

1. why dont they solo anymore
2. why does Lars's snare sound so bad in the st anger album?
3. why is st anger dedicated to the prisoners of st quentin?

1. = probably cause its against the trend. standard tuning is also against the trend nowadays too, and thats why i think 'tallica droptunes.
2. = probably to expiriment. Dont really know.
3 = i think cause they went there and it changed their lives in a positive way. Not 100% on that one either.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

saturday night...look for my Metallica review :) this is my 4th time seeing them and i hope it to be the best. the setlists have been looking fantastic as of late!

[adamthebassist]

Yeah, youre right. Beetovens fifth symphony kinda sucked. It would have been great though if some random wanker would have put a solo in there. thanks, the world is now stupider. God, that is the single-worst statement i have ever heard. And its coming from a guy with a frickin Godsmack avatar. How can anybody be that stupid. Im asking you "Adam the bassist", how are you so stupid? Answer me. I can't wait, this is gonna be funny.

Dude, I mean not every song has to have a solo to be good..... and actually i listen to more Tchaikolvski or however the heck you spell his name than beethoven so **** off. Im talking about modern music, not classic stuff. And, honestly, i dont give a **** if you like godsmack or not. You sound like a snooty little asshole that thinks the only good kind of music is 200 years old, so go take your dads **** up your *** you little bitch. Im sick to death of people like you.

[adamthebassist]

saturday night...look for my Metallica review :) this is my 4th time seeing them and i hope it to be the best. the setlists have been looking fantastic as of late!

Where are you seeing them at? Im gonna see them friday night at the newport. and where can you look at the setlist?

[CreepingBlack]

Dude, I mean not every song has to have a solo to be good..... and actually i listen to more Tchaikolvski or however the heck you spell his name than beethoven so **** off. Im talking about modern music, not classic stuff. And, honestly, i dont give a **** if you like godsmack or not. You sound like a snooty little asshole that thinks the only good kind of music is 200 years old, so go take your dads **** up your *** you little bitch. Im sick to death of people like you.


You're so dumb. You say something stupid, and then you take it back and make exceptions. I said something about your Godsmack Avatar because they rarely solo, and that means you think they suck, but you still have their avatar.

I sound like I made a good arguement to your horribly stupid comment. You can say a lot of insults, but you can't admit you said something stupid.

So wait, youre saying that only parts of songs that have solos in it are cool. So, if you minus the MOP solos, that song would suck? Right?

For future reference, you can't say stupid comments like that and expect not to get flamed. Its gonna happen. And next time don't be like,"Take you dads **** up your ***!!!!" cause thats really immature. I really didn't think your comeback was gonna be just a bunch of shafting and no valid arguement. Why don't you tell us all what you were saying when you said,"music with no solos is crap." Tell us what drove you to make that stupid comment, mr Godsmack avatar.

[Metal G]

Some kind of monster :
Hey all, i was just wondering if anyone here has seen the metali-movie yet?
i really wanna see it, but i dont know where and how :confused:
any sugestions ( im in the UK )

[jaymz_is_god]

I've heard its out in the UK in October, but I'm not 100%

[\m/Pete\m/]

Some kind of monster :
Hey all, i was just wondering if anyone here has seen the metali-movie yet?
i really wanna see it, but i dont know where and how :confused:
any sugestions ( im in the UK )

I've seen it but im not in the UK

Its worth the watch. very good documentary and i loved it

[Triangle]

Cool, im looking forward to it.

[speedmetalguitar]

Yeh It was A sik movie... I likes it heaps im goin to see it again
On the way to the cinemas i didnt even like st anger that much compared to their old stuff, then in the car with it cranked right up i realised it was really good headbangers music....Even their onld stuff wasnt as good head bangers music. Its not as good as their old stuff by any means, but its alot better than the way peaople make it out to be. Then after i saw the movie, i liked even more
Anyway i advise everyone to go see it

[lemoley]

Kiss Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuule

[Niklas]

whats your opinion on the really old mustine stuff like no life till' leather and that shi...
....personly i like it even more

[adamthebassist]

music without solos is crap......LMFAO. Thats like saying music without bass is good (god**** white stripes)

Ok, do you not know what sarcasm is??Good God. Here Ill simplify it for you. " HAHA Music without solos' is crap?? (L)aughing (M)y (F)ucking (A)ss (O)ff. Thats like saying bands that dont want/have/think they need a bass player are good." If you actually read what was going on at the time you'd know what i was talking about.UNDERSTAND??? I guess from now on Ill put (SARCASM) by stuff i write so idiots like you dont flame me because YOU DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT WHAT I MIGHT BE SAYING!!!

[Diatonic Dissonance™]

he didnt alter it
Oh, my bad. It's just everyone was talking about it. Sorry.

Favourite member? James.

[GlassJAw]

I like\liked Metallica, at least the old Metallica. Metallica now seems lame, boring and annoying, but that's just my opinion.

[Paranoidd]

Not just yours.

[Kingofdudes]

I like\liked Metallica, at least the old Metallica. Metallica now seems lame, boring and annoying, but that's just my opinion.

Wow, such an original opnion :rolleyes:

[splashfreak]

WOW! This is the biggest thread i have seen... since... eva!

Anyway, i was just wondering, if i know nothing at all about metallica, but like hard rock/metal, which of their albums should i get?

[Paranoidd]

If you like all hard rock/metal, then get them all.

If you are a little more specific, stick with their earlier stuff, it's better.

[The Bell Tolls]

look at this whiney (yet talented) bitch :p



MEGADETH mainman Dave Mustaine has spoken to Canada's Chart Attack about the inclusion of a scene in METALLICA's "Some Kind of Monster" documentary in which METALLICA drummer Lars Ulrich sits down with Mustaine for a one-on-one therapy session.

"Everyone says how the part with me [in the movie] is the most intense. Yeah, because I'm the only one who thinks Lars is a punk," Mustaine said. "Everyone else is afraid of him. He looks like a ****in' Eminem wannabe right now. Anyone who watches that movie and doesn't realize that whoever comes into contact with Lars hates him… If you watch the movie closely, you see that Lars treats everyone so badly. They all end up in therapy! Even the counselor ended up in therapy!

"For years [METALLICA] said I wasn’t important to them; that I was a temporary guitar player or they never said anything about me," he continued. "But now all of a sudden I'm so important that they need me in their movie. Were you lying then or are you lying now? Why am I so important that I need to be in your stupid movie? And when I told them I didn't want it used — I told the director I didn't approve of it — and they went ahead and used it. Then Lars goes online and says he doesn't understand why I’m so pissed off. You didn't listen to me! Then when he catches wind that I’m getting sick of his crap he says, 'Aww, I just want to hug Dave. I'm sexually attracted to him.' What the hell happened to you?"

Mustaine also said that classic METALLICA songs such as "Jump In The Fire" and "The Four Horsemen" are his. Along with a number of others.

"Not only [the songs on] 'Kill 'Em All', but 'Ride The Lightning' title track, 'Call Of Kthulu', parts of 'Leper Messiah'... Listen to parts of 'Leper Messiah' and then 'Ride The Lighting'. It's that same spider chord. I invented that! How the hell can you not credit me for writing that?"

Mustaine has his own answer.

"James [Hetfield] didn't want to give me credit because he's jealous of me. His whole frontman persona he copped from me. In the beginning of the band, he just sang and I did all the guitar work. When he was done singing, he'd walk away from the microphone and I had to walk up to the mic and talk. I'm like, 'What's wrong with this picture? I'm getting your beer tonight!' I think the most disappointing thing out of all of it is that when you look at all of the accomplishments they've made over the years, people are trying to make me invisible. My career's been successful; I've had a blast while I'm here but it would have been nice if METALLICA fans really knew what my contribution was instead of them saying there wasn't any.

"I don't want to look bad on anybody (God forbid, Dave), but it's like the Flight Of Icarus: if you fly too high, you'll melt your wings," Mustaine concluded. "I think there are so many people that are happy it's over; that they're failing. I don't wish that on James at all. I really don't care about Kirk [Hammett] — he stole my job, but at least I got to bang his girlfriend before he took my job — how do I taste, Kirk? I do miss James though, even though we'll never work together again. With the silence, it's like, what are you afraid of? If I have to be in the movie, then obviously I mattered. Why didn't you say in the movie, 'Hey listen, I've been a twat because for 20 years. I pretended you were invisible.' Then I would have been like, 'OK! You can put my part in!'"




thats just mean.

[Jamie FT]

I'd say for getting into them get the black album, but if you want a very good metal album get master of puppets or if your feeling a bit adventourous get ride the lightening or ...and justice for all (my favourite album)

[Niklas]

WOW! This is the biggest thread i have seen... since... eva!

Anyway, i was just wondering, if i know nothing at all about metallica, but like hard rock/metal, which of their albums should i get?
Ride The Lightning, Kill em all and Master of Puppets these are the must have albums

[Paranoidd]

look at this whiney (yet talented) bitch :p

thats just mean.

He's a funny guy. I thought that was really good.

[The Bell Tolls]

I really don't care about Kirk [Hammett] — he stole my job, but at least I got to bang his girlfriend before he took my job — how do I taste, Kirk?
thats eevil

[Niklas]

Mustaine also said that classic METALLICA songs such as "Jump In The Fire" and "The Four Horsemen" are his. Along with a number of others.

"Not only [the songs on] 'Kill 'Em All', but 'Ride The Lightning' title track, 'Call Of Kthulu', parts of 'Leper Messiah'... Listen to parts of 'Leper Messiah' and then 'Ride The Lighting'. It's that same spider chord. I invented that! How the hell can you not credit me for writing that?" [QUOTE]

The mechanix (pre-version of the fourhorsemen much better imo)
Call of kthulu (check out Hangar 18 by megadeth)

[Shred Danson]

I have a question: Why do so many people talk **** about Load and Reload? True, it was WAY different and uncomparable than anything they've done, but I think the music on it was actually pretty awesome.

[\m/Pete\m/]

thats eevil

I agree that is downright and just plain mean

[Shred Danson]

Emo, man, your avatar is disturbing me :lol:

[Paranoidd]

I have a question: Why do so many people talk **** about Load and Reload? True, it was WAY different and uncomparable than anything they've done, but I think the music on it was actually pretty awesome.

Well, you pretty much answered your own question...

You like them, everyone else thinks they suck.

[DisposableHeroes]

i agree here:

"If I have to be in the movie, then obviously I mattered. Why didn't you say in the movie, 'Hey listen, I've been a twat because for 20 years. I pretended you were invisible.' Then I would have been like, 'OK! You can put my part in!'"

i hope they can settle differences

[NailHead]

Okay...do you think that the band could of moved into the Black Album with Cliff Burton as their bass player. Or do you think that they would have stuck with their old stuff for that. I mean...I personally think that Cliff's death allowed the band to take their music in a new direction. But that's just my opinion.

[Shred Danson]

Well, you pretty much answered your own question...

You like them, everyone else thinks they suck.

Wow.

[adamthebassist]

I have a question: Why do so many people talk **** about Load and Reload? True, it was WAY different and uncomparable than anything they've done, but I think the music on it was actually pretty awesome.

I agree. I love Reload, and Load is pretty good as well. Ride the lightning and justice for all are their best work tho (imo). actually i havent heard anything by metallica i havent liked.....

[Niklas]

I agree. I love Reload, and Load is pretty good as well. Ride the lightning and justice for all are their best work tho (imo). actually i havent heard anything by metallica i havent liked.....
man come on, st anger?

[Badranger69]

The Load album was pretty good. It had some great songs like King Nothing, Hero of the Day, Until it Sleeps, Mama Said, and Ain't My Bitch.

[adamthebassist]

man come on, st anger?

Well, yeah, some of it sucks. If saint anger was like 3:45 and not 5 minutes long it would be a decent song, and i like that "tick tick tick tock" song, whatever it's called. but i havent heard all of the cd, so im not gonna judge the whole thing...altho i dont like the way it sounds (it sounds like the audio is from a video recording of a performance or something)

[adamthebassist]

The Load album was pretty good. It had some great songs like King Nothing, Hero of the Day, Until it Sleeps, Mama Said, and Ain't My Bitch.

I LOVE playing the bassline to King Nothing. I wish Newstead still played for them... although i dont blame him for leaving. Lars seems like a *** to me. (imo).

[Paranoidd]

I personally think that Cliff's death allowed the band to take their music in a new direction. But that's just my opinion.

True, but you say it like it was a good thing.

[Paranoidd]

Wow.

I was talking about the albums, and not the band. That wasn't clear.

[Niklas]

Well, yeah, some of it sucks. If saint anger was like 3:45 and not 5 minutes long it would be a decent song, and i like that "tick tick tick tock" song, whatever it's called. but i havent heard all of the cd, so im not gonna judge the whole thing...altho i dont like the way it sounds (it sounds like the audio is from a video recording of a performance or something)
the metallica albums now days tend have to many songs
i mean 75 min!!! way to much
what? should i buy the album that is great but only has 40 min
or the album thats not so but has 75 min of music
Quantity or quality

[Niklas]

Well, yeah, some of it sucks. If saint anger was like 3:45 and not 5 minutes long it would be a decent song, and i like that "tick tick tick tock" song, whatever it's called. but i havent heard all of the cd, so im not gonna judge the whole thing...altho i dont like the way it sounds (it sounds like the audio is from a video recording of a performance or something)
the metallica albums now days tend have to many songs
i mean 75 min!!! way to much
what? should i buy the album that is great but only has 40 min
or the album thats not so good but has 75 min of music
Quantity or quality

[Niklas]

^^
why the hell did I post that twice

[adamthebassist]

the metallica albums now days tend have to many songs
i mean 75 min!!! way to much
what? should i buy the album that is great but only has 40 min
or the album thats not so good but has 75 min of music
Quantity or quality

Yeah, i know what you mean. Is saint anger 75 minutes long? Good Lord... I would choose quality everytime, although a nice mix is always good.

[Niklas]

It has a sticker on the front saying:
"11 New songs over 75 minutes of music"

[BlinDecsent]

ya and about 50 of those minutes arent worth a whole lot either. There are SOME good points to that cd. But over all not worth it.

[adamthebassist]

Thats really too bad. When i heard metallica was putting out a new cd, i couldnt wait for it to drop. Now that ive heard some of it.....Im pretty disappointed. like ive said before, I respect them for doing something different, i just wish it they did it a little better.

[chuckles the silly piggy]

The songs on Load That everybody seems to never mention are the best on the album:
Bleeding Me
Outlaw Torn

[schweinhunt]

ya and about 50 of those minutes arent worth a whole lot either. There are SOME good points to that cd. But over all not worth it.
If "good points" equals content, then you could also say that there is SOME content on every Slimp Blizkit cd. If I'm supposed to enjoy 70 minutes of music, I expect more than 3 minutes of content.

They already set the new world record of repetitiveness, so why couldn't they have been even MORE repetitive, and extended it into a double-disc containing 300 minutes of that monotonous noise? Because I bet their cocksucking-imbecile fans would have been even happier about getting MORE.

[guitarfrog]

the metallica albums now days tend have to many songs
i mean 75 min!!! way to much
what? should i buy the album that is great but only has 40 min
or the album thats not so good but has 75 min of music
Quantity or quality
quality

i'd rather have 40 minutes of wonder ful music than sitting there for a torturesome 70 minutes or whatever listening to some bull****

[guitarfrog]

Talent wise (comming from a bassiest of close to a decade) hes far more creative and well rounded than Cliff whom was never in his wildest dreams gods gift to bass guitar.
rob is probably a good bassist, but id have to disagree with that.
show me any song that rob composed that is as impressive as anesthesia or the bass solo in orion or the lead bass in ktulu, etc. ....and then i might agree.

[Metal-Militia77]

Metallicas, older stuff is soo much better than their new stuff, i was dissapointed when i got st. anger. stuff like the black album and load and reload isnt that bad but Kill 'em All and Ride the Lightening are amazing!!!
The call of the ktulu is an amazing instrumental song. Ride the lightening is my favorite overall cd.

[adamthebassist]

The songs on Load That everybody seems to never mention are the best on the album:
Bleeding Me
Outlaw Torn

Those songs are both ****ing awesome. I always forget that's the cd they're on.

[BlinDecsent]

[/QUOTE]They already set the new world record of repetitiveness, so why couldn't they have been even MORE repetitive, and extended it into a double-disc containing 300 minutes of that monotonous noise? Because I bet their cocksucking-imbecile fans would have been even happier about getting MORE.[/QUOTE]


Set the record for repetitiveness? What the hell kind of comment is that. I beleive Load and Reload should have been a two disk set. Other then that what repetitiveness have they done? Kill em All was a 100% thrash cd. Very raw and heavy. Not the kind of heavy they would produce with RTL and MOP, but a very heavy feel none the less.

In Ride the Lightening they expanded upon that thrashy feel and added alot more diversity with songs such as Fade to Black and Call of the Ktulu. Master of Puppets was similar to Ride the Lightening but lost almost all the pure and raw elements of thrash. After only two cds they went from a thrash style garage band to a more mature and complex tradtional sounding heavy metal band. There are alot of subtle things on MOP but they are noticable. Such as the drumming on the bridge of Master of Puupets the song, The Thing that Should not be is very different from any thing they had previously put out or anything they would in the future. The dominant bass in orion was never seen before and wouldn't be seen again until my friend of misery. Over all these subtleties add up and produce a differnt feel.

AJFA was the album where the band really put their oponions into song writing about issues they felt strongly about (or James did anyways). Songs like Blackened, And Justice for All, One and Dyers Eve all dealt with things in a more upfront nature than previous songs did. Also AJFA is no where near the sound they had with Kill em All. Heavy but no longer thrash

Black Ambum is where the band decides to go for a mainstream sound and ditches much of their metal roots. Same idea with the next two albums Load and Reload. Like i said, should have been a two disk set. They have now gone from the un radio friendly sounds of the Four Horsemen and Whiplash, to the catchy and groovy King Nothing. They even did a cover album and played with a freakin' symphony orchestra! Now how different of a sound do you want? This era of Metallica may not be the best music wise but they are trying new things. More so in the last ten-fifteen years than ever. St. Anger was not a good cd. But as I said it had some good points. And NO I don't mean it had CONTENT. Everything in the world has content! Have you heard the whole cd? Frantic, St. Anger, Some Kind of Monster and Invisible Kid are good songs I feel. The drums may be tuned a little differently and there may be no solos but so what? Music is music even though you probably wouldn't agree. Oh and The Unnamed Feeling I think is some of Metallica's best work.

The thing with St. Anger is that people seem to dislike because it is new. Not just this cd but alot of things in general. If Metallica released a cd they wrote back in 85 and just preformed all the songs today for recording, I seriously wonder how people would react to it. I think it would find the same reception St. Anger did because "they will never be as good as they were with cliff and back in the eighties blah blah blah".

And as for the "cocksucking imbecile fans" remark, I'm not gonna try and change your views on that. If thats the outlook you choose to have on the topic than whatever. It just seems that you didn't put alot of thought into that statement. This is hardly the place to be insulting Metallica fans, and most fans are only fans of the band still because they hang on to that faint memory of the first time they heard the opening accoustic riff to Fight Fire with Fire. And how it all went from there. Or maybe they are like me; saw them live recently and were blown completely away. After hearing live versions of St.Anger songs I have a new respect for them. They are heavy and catchy and just very appealing IMO.

But like I said, just remember where you posted "cocksucknig imbecile fans". I'm sure not too many people are going to agree with you on several of your points but what ever.

[adamthebassist]

BlinDecsent.....That was beautiful. Very well put. I agree 100%

[clown_phobia]

http://www.geocities.com/rokmet/metallicamusic

for metallica bootlegs

^^ good site

[schweinhunt]

Set the record for repetitiveness? What the hell kind of comment is that. I beleive Load and Reload should have been a two disk set. Other then that what repetitiveness have they done? Kill em All was a 100% thrash cd. Very raw and heavy. Not the kind of heavy they would produce with RTL and MOP, but a very heavy feel none the less.

In Ride the Lightening they expanded upon that thrashy feel and added alot more diversity with songs such as Fade to Black and Call of the Ktulu. Master of Puppets was similar to Ride the Lightening but lost almost all the pure and raw elements of thrash. After only two cds they went from a thrash style garage band to a more mature and complex tradtional sounding heavy metal band. There are alot of subtle things on MOP but they are noticable. Such as the drumming on the bridge of Master of Puupets the song, The Thing that Should not be is very different from any thing they had previously put out or anything they would in the future. The dominant bass in orion was never seen before and wouldn't be seen again until my friend of misery. Over all these subtleties add up and produce a differnt feel.

AJFA was the album where the band really put their oponions into song writing about issues they felt strongly about (or James did anyways). Songs like Blackened, And Justice for All, One and Dyers Eve all dealt with things in a more upfront nature than previous songs did. Also AJFA is no where near the sound they had with Kill em All. Heavy but no longer thrash

Black Ambum is where the band decides to go for a mainstream sound and ditches much of their metal roots. Same idea with the next two albums Load and Reload. Like i said, should have been a two disk set. They have now gone from the un radio friendly sounds of the Four Horsemen and Whiplash, to the catchy and groovy King Nothing. They even did a cover album and played with a freakin' symphony orchestra! Now how different of a sound do you want? This era of Metallica may not be the best music wise but they are trying new things. More so in the last ten-fifteen years than ever. St. Anger was not a good cd. But as I said it had some good points. And NO I don't mean it had CONTENT. Everything in the world has content! Have you heard the whole cd? Frantic, St. Anger, Some Kind of Monster and Invisible Kid are good songs I feel. The drums may be tuned a little differently and there may be no solos but so what? Music is music even though you probably wouldn't agree. Oh and The Unnamed Feeling I think is some of Metallica's best work.

The thing with St. Anger is that people seem to dislike because it is new. Not just this cd but alot of things in general. If Metallica released a cd they wrote back in 85 and just preformed all the songs today for recording, I seriously wonder how people would react to it. I think it would find the same reception St. Anger did because "they will never be as good as they were with cliff and back in the eighties blah blah blah".

And as for the "cocksucking imbecile fans" remark, I'm not gonna try and change your views on that. If thats the outlook you choose to have on the topic than whatever. It just seems that you didn't put alot of thought into that statement. This is hardly the place to be insulting Metallica fans, and most fans are only fans of the band still because they hang on to that faint memory of the first time they heard the opening accoustic riff to Fight Fire with Fire. And how it all went from there. Or maybe they are like me; saw them live recently and were blown completely away. After hearing live versions of St.Anger songs I have a new respect for them. They are heavy and catchy and just very appealing IMO.

But like I said, just remember where you posted "cocksucknig imbecile fans". I'm sure not too many people are going to agree with you on several of your points but what ever.
Thanks for the history lesson, but I don't remember having criticized any of the pre-Load era albums. I was obviously talking about a specific album, so I apoligize for the useless effort you made to write all that.

Music is just music? And at least so far, music with substance has been music with substance. See what the dictionary has to say about this ->

tau·tol·o·gy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tô-tl-j)
n. pl. tau·tol·o·gies
1. a. Needless repetition of the same sense in different words; redundancy

^^^Well, close, anyway. You're just as repetitive as the album you're defending. Playing all music you have written twice IS repeating yourself. You can make a 10 minute song with 5 minutes of actual content, but why is listening to it worthwhile? Also, what's worthwhile about 70 minutes of monotonous drumming and other instruments mostly containing simple and distorted noises?

[Shred Danson]

I think BlinDescent is a ****ing genious, man, and speaks for all metallica fans

[Kingofdudes]

I think BlinDescent didnt say anything new.

[Shred Danson]

well thats your opinion.

[Kingofdudes]

No, Ive seen a million responses like that. So it isnt an opnion, it's an observation. gg

[Elstelladorian Highlander]

No, Ive seen a million responses like that. So it isnt an opnion, it's an observation. gg

it was a good post, but didnt' need to be done. It seems like he likes rating cds though. It was too much, yeah.

[IKilledMyValentine]

metallica rules...end of thread.

[Kingofdudes]

you arent allowed to reproduce...end of thread.

[ForTheMusic22]

^^^Well, close, anyway. You're just as repetitive as the album you're defending. Playing all music you have written twice IS repeating yourself.
well, i don't know if you've noticed, but repetition is common in pretty much all music (i.e. the chorus). not to bore you with another history lesson, but a lot of bands have done similar things; the beatles (that Hello song, which may not be a good example to defend my point, cuz that song drives me crazy); a lot of punk rock is just the same 3 or 4 chord combination being repeated over and over; classical composers could even be accused of this (beethoven's Fur Elise repeats the same part a fair number of times).

and he wasn't really repetitve in his post, he was just setting a broad foundation for his argument. true, it seemed more like an argumentative essay written for an english class, but maybe he's seen how quickly people get flamed on here for not defending their statement's well enough, which is something you definitely can't accuse him of this time.

[ForTheMusic22]

does anyone know the part kirk plays during the chorus of sad but true? it's not on the tabs here or even in the music book. it sounds like just some simple single note stuff with some pick trills but i'm having trouble figuring it out. i need to get some new strings though, the ones i got don't hold tuning very well when i tune down that far, which makes it hard to tell if i'm playing the right frets or not.

[Squirrel]

Kreator posted it in here ages ago.

It involves the open high e ( d in this case ) played with 5/6 etc frets on the b ( a ).

Meh, you work it out, something like that.

[Shred Danson]

well, i don't know if you've noticed, but repetition is common in pretty much all music (i.e. the chorus). not to bore you with another history lesson, but a lot of bands have done similar things; the beatles (that Hello song, which may not be a good example to defend my point, cuz that song drives me crazy); a lot of punk rock is just the same 3 or 4 chord combination being repeated over and over; classical composers could even be accused of this (beethoven's Fur Elise repeats the same part a fair number of times).

and he wasn't really repetitve in his post, he was just setting a broad foundation for his argument. true, it seemed more like an argumentative essay written for an english class, but maybe he's seen how quickly people get flamed on here for not defending their statement's well enough, which is something you definitely can't accuse him of this time.

AC/DC also made the same song over and over, but they were still a great band.

[Shred Danson]

does anyone know the part kirk plays during the chorus of sad but true? it's not on the tabs here or even in the music book. it sounds like just some simple single note stuff with some pick trills but i'm having trouble figuring it out. i need to get some new strings though, the ones i got don't hold tuning very well when i tune down that far, which makes it hard to tell if i'm playing the right frets or not.

Isnt that song tuned down a whole step? You should get some .12 strings then.

[Squirrel]

12 gauge for D standard ?! ?! :lol:

... :lol:

[Shred Danson]

12 gauge for D standard ?! ?! :lol:

... :lol:

Hey, it works. Pikachu.

[Squirrel]

Wow, nice comeback ****wad.

.12s for D standard is a retarded idea.

[Shred Danson]

Suuuuure. And that wasn't a comeback. I've always used .12s for tuning down to D (or C) So nuts to you. And what the **** is a ****wad?

[Paranoidd]

A wad of fvck, obviously.

Adding "wad" to any cuss makes it better.

Shytwad, a$swad, dickwad, etc.

[Shred Danson]

Just playing down a whole step (or more) with standard .09's and .10's makes the strings feel too floppy(for me). Especially when playing with Super-Slinkies.

[Shred Danson]

A wad of fvck, obviously.

Adding "wad" to any cuss makes it better.

Shytwad, a$swad, dickwad, etc.

But they make no sense!

[Shred Danson]

And do you have to have a certain number of posts before you can say "****" without it being censored?

[kadafreak666]

BlinDecsent........

i love you lol

well said bro i saved it on my comp so i can send it to or have them read it if anyone tries to talk **** about MetallicA.. (it says Originally Posted by BlinDecsent so dont worry lol)

[Squirrel]

A wad of fvck, obviously.

Adding "wad" to any cuss makes it better.

Shytwad, a$swad, dickwad, etc.

Speaker of truth.

[Shred Danson]

Here we are in an "Official Metallica Thread" talking about fvckwads, dickwads, and asswads...

[Squirrel]

Yes, good analysis.

[Paranoidd]

Here we are in an "Official Metallica Thread" talking about fvckwads, dickwads, and asswads...

Well, the thread is full of them...

[ForTheMusic22]

lol

[ForTheMusic22]

yeah, i need to get heavier strings, i was only thinking about .10s though. i got 9's on right now because before i came to korea guitar center had a sale on some GHS Fatties, 10 packs for $15. and they sound pretty sweet on my schecter with standard tuning, and actually aren't too bad down a half step with a few quick adjustments, but a whole step down and they just feel and sound sloppy. i can't even adjust my bridge high enough to get rid of all the fret buzz when they're like that.

[AngusGuitar357]

^^ You too?

To iliketoplaydrums: sanitarium, seek and destroy, ride the lightining, the unforgiven 2 (the best metallica song IMHO!!)

dude Ramsey you've posted like 100 post's in this thread, go to another thread dude, and yes metallica rocks.

[Squirrel]

Angus, i have the most posts in this thread :)

Ramsey hasnt posted here in like 13 years.

[schweinhunt]

well, i don't know if you've noticed, but repetition is common in pretty much all music (i.e. the chorus). not to bore you with another history lesson, but a lot of bands have done similar things; the beatles (that Hello song, which may not be a good example to defend my point, cuz that song drives me crazy); a lot of punk rock is just the same 3 or 4 chord combination being repeated over and over; classical composers could even be accused of this (beethoven's Fur Elise repeats the same part a fair number of times).
Classical composers didn't come up with leitmotifs so they could be used to replace songwriting effort. Fight Fire With Fire doesn't have a verse-chorus combo for the sake of being repetitive and monotonous; that's the theme of the song, which gives the songwriting a sense of coherence - they don't repeat EVERY other section twice on RTL. (Dream Theater's Images and Words is an album which isn't concerned of coherence, and I consider that to be monotonous wankery unlike RTL.)

And a lot of punk songs don't last for EIGHT ****ING MINUTES. The Ramones mostly wrote 2 minute songs. They didn't make a brainless eight minute songs out of them, and didn't dilute their quality by repeating everything over again. Even if they would have, the drumming isn't anywhere near as monotonous and the riffs aren't nearly that similar.

Although even The Ramones had some solos (Metallica defenders tend to think SHRED when someone mentions 'solo' - probably because they when they think 'solo', they think Hammet - but I don't hear much shred in "Somebody to Love"), the real problem with the lack of solos is that St. Anger has LONG songs, and longer songs tend to have solos to keep themselves interesting - or if not solos, at least plenty of variation in the riffage. But I find nothing on St. Anger which can hold my attention past the middle of the songs. Because there aren't many intense metal riffs found there like the well-developed riffs of RTL, and more importantly all the riffs sound extremely similar. Chunk-chunk. Not a slightest bit of variation in the drumming either, what's there which is worthwhile for me to listen to it entirely through - for the fifth time?

Since you're the smart one, explain.

[Otherside]

Classical composers didn't come up with leitmotifs so they could be used to replace songwriting effort. Fight Fire With Fire doesn't have a verse-chorus combo for the sake of being repetitive and monotonous; that's the theme of the song, which gives the songwriting a sense of coherence - they don't repeat EVERY other section twice on RTL. (Dream Theater's Images and Words is an album which isn't concerned of coherence, and I consider that to be monotonous wankery unlike RTL.)

And a lot of punk songs don't last for EIGHT ****ING MINUTES. The Ramones mostly wrote 2 minute songs. They didn't make a brainless eight minute songs out of them, and didn't dilute their quality by repeating everything over again. Even if they would have, the drumming isn't anywhere near as monotonous and the riffs aren't nearly that similar.

Although even The Ramones had some solos (Metallica defenders tend to think SHRED when someone mentions 'solo' - probably because they when they think 'solo', they think Hammet - but I don't hear much shred in "Somebody to Love"), the real problem with the lack of solos is that St. Anger has LONG songs, and longer songs tend to have solos to keep themselves interesting - or if not solos, at least plenty of variation in the riffage. But I find nothing on St. Anger which can hold my attention past the middle of the songs. Because there aren't many intense metal riffs found there like the well-developed riffs of RTL, and more importantly all the riffs sound extremely similar. Chunk-chunk. Not a slightest bit of variation in the drumming either, what's there which is worthwhile for me to listen to it entirely through - for the fifth time?

Since you're the smart one, explain.



My theory on St. Anger: Metallica made a album that appeals to all the current nu-metal kids, who have no idea what real music is. And then their next album will be pure thrash, and all the nu-metal kids will go holy ****!!!

Or maybe it's just my dream :upset:

[Chu]

My theory on St. Anger: Metallica made a album that appeals to all the current nu-metal kids, who have no idea what real music is. And then their next album will be pure thrash, and all the nu-metal kids will go holy ****!!!

Or maybe it's just my dream :upset:

I want that dream too :upset:

[guitarfrog]

Although even The Ramones had some solos (Metallica defenders tend to think SHRED when someone mentions 'solo' - probably because they when they think 'solo', they think Hammet - but I don't hear much shred in "Somebody to Love"), the real problem with the lack of solos is that St. Anger has LONG songs, and longer songs tend to have solos to keep themselves interesting - or if not solos, at least plenty of variation in the riffage. But I find nothing on St. Anger which can hold my attention past the middle of the songs. Because there aren't many intense metal riffs found there like the well-developed riffs of RTL, and more importantly all the riffs sound extremely similar. Chunk-chunk. Not a slightest bit of variation in the drumming either, what's there which is worthwhile for me to listen to it entirely through - for the fifth time?

i think thats wonderfully put. for a song as long as to live is to die, its amazing how interesting and new each part becomes. i can listen to the full 10 minutes or so and it would feel like 2 minutes. this also applies to other metllica songs like ktulu, orion, justice, disposable hereoes, etc. etc.
i sort of compare a song to a book
if the song is well-written and not that repetitive, you want to keep on listening to it, just like a good suspenseful story
however, the opposite is just a plain, bland story. sure its still a story and st. anger is still a song (no matter how boring it is)....but after a while the song becomes so predicatble and you just dont feel like listening to it anymore.

i remember from school my english teacher told me to make my stories more interesting by adding more details and suspense to them. usually if there are some "suddenlys" and perhaps some unexpected turning points in a story, it is more suspenseful. that is what i like when it happens to songs. for examples, in the justice song, you hear this wonderfully beuatiful beginning and then there is that "suddenly", were the song changes melody a bit (but still nice and flowing together). that makes me want to hear more. all those "suddenlys" make the song more interesting. st, anger is usually the smae, not many turning points in the song which makes you go "i wanna hear more!"

now i dont thinkthat st anger is a terribly horrible album. there are some nice riffs here and there, but theyre only some riffs with some useless boring filling in between them so it makes a song. i think that metallica should work on the details and suspense some more, just like my english teacher always said, to make the songs more suspenseful. personally i dont think they put all the thought they could into the album.

[Squeaky]

now i dont thinkthat st anger is a terribly horrible album. there are some nice riffs here and there, but theyre only some riffs with some useless boring filling in between them so it makes a song. i think that metallica should work on the details and suspense some more, just like my english teacher always said, to make the songs more suspenseful. personally i dont think they put all the thought they could into the album.

I think that St. Anger was just a rushed album. I mean there a few cool songs on it but really nothing great.

[FateisCold]

An official Metallica thread wow this is great. However I'd like to first say that I agree with many in the idea that St. Anger was garbage. Maybe if it was a completely new band the music wouldn't have sucked so badly but the fact that Metallica used to play real music and now plays this junk makes it that much worse. I mean come on there is so much talent in Kirk and Lars and even James but they are just playing what the radio likes which is strange because the radio liked what they did before too. I think the greatest song is Hit the Lights but probably because I am a guitarist and love the solos on that song cause they are intense! RIP Metallica...maybe its time to throw in the towel.

[CreepingBlack]

I think that St. Anger was just a rushed album. I mean there a few cool songs on it but really nothing great.
yeah, "My world", and "the unnamed feeling" are both great songs.

[CrosbyX910]

Guitarfrog and sweinhunt both made great points about the band i mean the more variety in a song that there is, the more interesting, as long as the variety isnt just random (aka I hate Mr Bungle). All of metallicas instrumentals are amazing and beautiful and all of their guitar solos are pretty crazy too. And yes when i think solo i do think shredding :lol: but i try not to too much.

About St Anger, there are some good songs on it like, as said, the unnamed feeling and my world and I also think that Sweet Amber is pretty good

One last thing did anyone notice that there are lyrics in St Anger that are also in Damage Inc...

St Anger: "**** it all, ****in no regrets / Ive hit the lights on these dark sets"
Damage Inc.: "**** it all and ****in no regrets / Never happy endings on these dark sets"

It kinda makes me think that he went back to maybe an old state of mind at some point, like something pushed him over the edge at some point. Then again he probably came up with a lot of his ideas while in rehab...

[Zmev]

Woah, i just found out today my friend in english class has the coffin thing they made only 500 of

Eh, i thought it was cool

[Kirk's Puppet]

yeah, "My world", and "the unnamed feeling" are both great songs.

<life>PHAIL</life>

The Unnamed Feeling is good though.

[clown_phobia]

compare megadeth vs. metallica from a metallica fans perspective

*please*

[Shred Danson]

Isnt Metallica comin out with a new CD with the songs from St. Anger that they threw away or something?

[Paranoidd]

I HOPE you're joking.

Putting out a CD of St. Anger rejects...wow...

[Shred Danson]

Hey, that's what I heard.

[Paranoidd]

Did they not get bad enough reviews with St. Anger? What the hell are they doing?

I'd say they were on drugs, but we can only hope...with drugs would come some good tunes.

[Shred Danson]

I don't know, maybe it was the better stuff that they came up with, but decided not to put it on the album...

[Squirrel]

Yes, that makes a lot of sense .. putting your worst efforts onto your first album in like 5 years.

[ForTheMusic22]

well, maybe they were only rejects because lars didn't want them, in which case they may actually be good

[ForTheMusic22]

and schweinhunt, i was in no way defending st anger as being a classic piece of art, but your initial statements about the repetition seemed a little too generalized. but you clarified yourself well, very nice. and i'm assuming that your comment about c0cksucking-imbecile metallica fans were directed at the ones that would be considered "lapdogs" (i hope you don't mind me using your term paranoidd); the ones that like anything just because it has the name "metallica" on it.

[CreepingBlack]

and schweinhunt, i was in no way defending st anger as being a classic piece of art, but your initial statements about the repetition seemed a little too generalized. but you clarified yourself well, very nice. and i'm assuming that your comment about c0cksucking-imbecile metallica fans were directed at the ones that would be considered "lapdogs" (i hope you don't mind me using your term paranoidd); the ones that like anything just because it has the name "metallica" on it.

I think that almost anyone would like material done more if their favorite band did it.

[Paranoidd]

"lapdogs" (i hope you don't mind me using your term paranoidd)

You'll be hearing from my lawyers.

[Shred Danson]

Yes, that makes a lot of sense .. putting your worst efforts onto your first album in like 5 years.

Wasn't it 8 years?

[Squirrel]

I said like ie: about.

Read.

[Shred Danson]

sorry, man. Geez.

[MetallicaRULZ192]

metallica is the greatest there ever was and the best there ever will be

[Paranoidd]

No way. The Osmonds > Metallica.

Have you ever heard Donny Osmond's downpicking? It's amazing.

[Blanka Flip]

I want that dream too :upset:

i want that dream three :upset:

[\m/Pete\m/]

well, maybe they were only rejects because lars didn't want them, in which case they may actually be good

When i watched the movie they had a few songs they played for the label manager or whoever he was that didnt make it. They were kinda cool

One was called Temptation and it had this really dark sound to it

[guitarfrog]

well, maybe they were only rejects because lars didn't want them, in which case they may actually be good
good point :thumb:
ive heard that kirk came up with a kickass solo but lars rejected it cause he though it was too "outdated". who the hell does he think he is?!?!?!? lars should be more concerned with making his drum set sound less like a trash can than with a guitaring part

[turkeyjerky]

I used to be really into metallica but I just don't like them to much anymore but my musical taste changes a lot and i get a lot of **** for not liking metallica but o well I think they are talented musicains but i just don't care for there type of music but for some reason I get reminded of them everytime i listen to Pantera or Avenged Sevenfold and i like both of them so i really don't know

[SJS1323]

Im going to have to disagree

[HNLzero]

Im going to have to disagree
failed

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

good point :thumb:
ive heard that kirk came up with a kickass solo but lars rejected it cause he though it was too "outdated". who the hell does he think he is?!?!?!? lars should be more concerned with making his drum set sound less like a trash can than with a guitaring part

Why couldn't lars die instead of cliff?

[clown_phobia]

on the bus before cliff died, they were playing cards. whoever won got to choose which bed they wanted. Cliff won, and chose Kirk's bed. Later that day/night, cliff died.

imagine what could have been?

source: Metallica: Lost Souls DVD

[metallovinbastrd]

on the bus before cliff died, they were playing cards. whoever won got to choose which bed they wanted. Cliff won, and chose Kirk's bed. Later that day/night, cliff died.

imagine what could have been?

source: Metallica: Lost Souls DVD

your source is unofficial which means basically half is lies.

[Kingofdudes]

I used to be really into metallica but I just don't like them to much anymore but my musical taste changes a lot and i get a lot of **** for not liking metallica but o well I think they are talented musicains but i just don't care for there type of music but for some reason I get reminded of them everytime i listen to Pantera or Avenged Sevenfold and i like both of them so i really don't know

Avenged Seven fold reminds you of Metallica because they are influenced by metallica.

[JH LU KH RT]

your source is unofficial which means basically half is lies.


i have seen metallica saying that....its true.

I think that better cliff die than kirk...

[Kingofdudes]

i have seen metallica saying that....its true.

I think that better cliff die than kirk...

Wow.... Just wow.

Kirk hasnt really been much of an innovator, many people shred, he would have been easy to replace.

But Cliff has influenced many bassists, and who knows what he could have done on the bass in the future?

[CreepingBlack]

I like Newsted more than Cliff. The misery bass line is better than anything Cliff ever did.

[Thrasheer]

I love Metallica's old stuff and some new, The Black Album was great, Ride the Lightning is my favorite,I respect the members of the band, but Kirk's solo's can get repetitive and annoying, I used to be a huge Metallica head, but not so much anymore, nothing is really challenging, and it seems like they're getting worse with each new album. Metallica just isn't cool anymore.

[BlinDecsent]

I like Newsted more than Cliff. The misery bass line is better than anything Cliff ever did.


Anesthesia dude? come on that was awsome you have to admitt. What else did Newstead do that was so great? He was a good player don't get me wrong but I don't think he didn't innovate as well as Cliff. He lives on in so many ways.

[ForTheMusic22]

i think it's kinda sick to say that it's better if one guy died more than another. it's a tragedy that Cliff died, but i think Jason was a pretty good replacement. and though it's true that Kirk isn't responsible for anything that can be considered landbreaking, i think he melded well with the band. relative to most other rock stars, Kirk isn't arrogant, which if he was, throwing that in with Lars and James could have been disastrous. he knew his role and did what he was told. some could say that's spineless, but you need people like that sometimes. it's like basketball, if all five players on the court want to be the star, then you're not nearly as effective (or successful) than a team that has players that will make a pass, or set a screen, instead of demanding the ball all the time.

[clown_phobia]

kirk talks like a girl... :)

[obscured_by_the_sun]

This just in: Metallica are perhaps the most over-rated band metal has to offer.

[The Bell Tolls]

shut up and go away

[Master-of-bates]

I concurr. Metallica kicks ***.

[Metallica52190]

kirk talks like a girl... :)

I agree so much...Did you ever see That 2 part documentary for the black album? "Whenever I touch it it shocks me" "Then don't touch it"...Haha dumass...But tallica kicks ***.

[Metallica52190]

Why couldn't lars die instead of cliff?

Why the hell not?

[Squirrel]

Lars writes and produces ALL their music with James.

You'd like to kill off one ofthe 2 main writing components of Metallica ?

Good call.

[Kingofdudes]

This just in: Metallica are perhaps the most over-rated band metal has to offer.

Wow, you must be a rocket scientist. Wait, nevermind. You just enjoy the ****.

[obscured_by_the_sun]

Wow, you must be a rocket scientist. Wait, nevermind. You just enjoy the ****.

Of course I enjoy my ****. It's what differentiates a male from a female. And we all know that men are the stronger, superior gender. The hunters, the alphas, the soldiers, and untill the 1900's the workers. And you're defending Metallica.... I can see why you must shun yours.

[Kingofdudes]

Ok, you like other people's cocks in your mouth, maybe if you had a reading level higher then a 3 year old you would know I meant that.

Im not denying they are overrated either, everyone in this thread will agree with that. But you really dont need to point out the obvious.

Or, do you think that saying that made you a rebel?

[UnknowN Doodl3.2]

Lars writes and produces ALL their music with James.

You'd like to kill off one ofthe 2 main writing components of Metallica ?

Good call.

I always thought cliff was a huge influence on metallicas writing... o well, guess none of them should have died then...

[obscured_by_the_sun]

Ok, you like other people's cocks in your mouth, maybe if you had a reading level higher then a 3 year old you would know I meant that.


Admit it.... you walked right in to that one. And you're calling me a 3 year old? :lol: You're the childish ***, that uses lame *** cliched insults. :rolleyes:

[guitrguy]

Admit it.... you walked right in to that one. And you're calling me a 3 year old? :lol: You're the childish ***, that uses lame *** cliched insults. :rolleyes:
Actually you walked into his insult.

[Kingofdudes]

blah blah wakkargersergersa egtqevqegfq3tq:

Yeah whatever, bottom line saying Metallica is overrated doesnt make you some rebel, and it doesnt make you cool.

[obscured_by_the_sun]

Yeah whatever, bottom line saying Metallica is overrated doesnt make you some rebel, and it doesnt make you cool.

UUUUUUUUU SUK COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!! ROFL ROFL LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!

[guitrguy]

UUUUUUUUU SUK COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!! ROFL ROFL LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!! :lol: And you don't deserve any insults.

[Kingofdudes]

Banned4spam

[obscured_by_the_sun]

Oh yeh! Well my peenis is bigger than yourz!11

[obscured_by_the_sun]

Actually you walked into his insult.

Really? Because I really don't see any connection between disliking Metallica and "enjoying the ****". Oh wait there is none. Way to go on the observation Jeffro. Quit riding peoples nuts. And WTF is a "guitr". I'm guessing it's not smart pills.

[guitrguy]

Really? Because I really don't see any connection between disliking Metallica and "enjoying the ****". Oh wait there is none. Way to go on the observation Jeffro. Quit riding peoples nuts. And WTF is a "guitr". I'm guessing it's not smart pills.
You = ignorant poser. You are not the first person to say that metallica is overrated. You should try to post an insult that makes sense.

[obscured_by_the_sun]

Poser? WTF are you babbling about? You know next to nothing about my musical preferences. You're just pulling observations out of thin air.... yeah that makes alot of sense.

[guitrguy]

Poser? WTF are you babbling about? You know next to nothing about my musical preferences. You're just pulling observations out of thin air.... yeah that makes alot of sense.
Yes you are a poser, reread your posts. I honestly dont want to know you "musical prefrences".

[obscured_by_the_sun]

Define poser John Nash.

[guitrguy]

This just in: Metallica are perhaps the most over-rated band metal has to offer.
Right here
Oh yeh! Well my peenis is bigger than yourz!11
here
UUUUUUUUU SUK COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOXXXXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!! ROFL ROFL LOLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111!!!!
here too...

[eggs'n'spam]

oh shut up prick, no one cares what you have to say except you. make fun of metallica elsewhere, like alone in a corner.

[eggs'n'spam]

good, he got banned :D

[The Bell Tolls]

haha, i hope he falls over as he leaves his computer.

[bigguy69]

u guys r 2 of the biggest asses ive read about in my life

[Kingofdudes]

u guys r 2 of the biggest asses ive read about in my life

r u g0nn4 g0 cry?

[RiceMonster]

can we get back to talking about metallica?

[guitrguy]

u guys r 2 of the biggest asses ive read about in my life
:lol: Like I'm going take someone who types like you seriously.
can we get back to talking about metallica? Usually starting a conversation works.

[CreepingBlack]

Of course I enjoy my ****. It's what differentiates a male from a female. And we all know that men are the stronger, superior gender. The hunters, the alphas, the soldiers, and untill the 1900's the workers. And you're defending Metallica.... I can see why you must shun yours.

wow. I didn't know Metallica sucks. Thanks for showing me the way, O' enlightened one.

[eggs'n'spam]

hehe dude i bet bigguy is that dude who got banned!

[ummm :s]

ok well u guys sound like jerks but thats sweet so r u gonna talk bout metallica or not?

[metallovinbastrd]

ok now if some people can let their balls drop and grow some arm hair, maybe this can be about metallica again. so whoever reads next, whats your favorite metallica tack for drums. i think one is excellent.

[metallovinbastrd]

track*

[guitrguy]

track*
You do have an edit button.

[metallovinbastrd]

You do have an edit button.

haha, thanks i'll use it next time

[RavenousMetalist87]

obscured by the sun has a serious problem...

anyways, I haven't touched my metallica Cds for a week x_x

I dunno why...

[KenBoston]

Metallica are ****ing awesome.... Can't wait to see them here in San Diego Nov. 24 with Godsmack.. it's most likely going to be the best concert I've been to.

[sHaZaM11]

aww....at least they are coming to your area...the ONE time they come here...I couldn't make it..
STUPID SCHOOL AND YOUR MANDATORY CAMP TRIP!!!!
ARGGGGGGGGGGH

[metallovinbastrd]

Metallica are ****ing awesome.... Can't wait to see them here in San Diego Nov. 24 with Godsmack.. it's most likely going to be the best concert I've been to.

dude!!!! i'll see you there, im goin too. its going to insane.

[BlinDecsent]

Ya Metallica definately can get it done live, I saw them back in March with Godsmack and it was amazing. I hope they come back here. Soon.

[sHaZaM11]

all you people going to see metallica...you're all making me sad..*bullies*

[guitarfrog]

i live in cincinnati an d they came here in may with godsmack but i had no money to buy any tickets.....

[guitarfrog]

ok now if some people can let their balls drop and grow some arm hair, maybe this can be about metallica again. so whoever reads next, whats your favorite metallica tack for drums. i think one is excellent.
basically all of the songs from and justice for all have impressive drumming

[Squirrel]

The drums have never really impressed me in any of their songs.

[chuckles the silly piggy]

To get my metallica ticket i got my friend (who had a job)to buy it for me,then i paid him 2.50 every day for a month,it was worth it though

[eggs'n'spam]

yea, at least you get to go, they were here friday, and im F**KING BROKE! so i didnt get to go..:( who was at the colombus ohio show? thats the one i missed

[The Bell Tolls]

heh heh heh. i found a picture of bob rock and then i drew on it. he is now satan with glasses with 'ghey' and 'anal' written on his jaket. heh heh heh.

[MasterofBass]

Lucky people, something always comes up when metallica comes to my area, and it never works out so I can see them.

[chuckles the silly piggy]

For Shame,no One Has Mentioned That:

Cliff Burton Is Dead 18 Years Today

[CreepingBlack]

Id like some serious responses on which cd do you think Kirk excelled the most on.

[RiceMonster]

heh heh heh. i found a picture of bob rock and then i drew on it. he is now satan with glasses with 'ghey' and 'anal' written on his jaket. heh heh heh.

:lol: thats awsome

[RiceMonster]

Id like some serious responses on which cd do you think Kirk excelled the most on.

I think he had the best solos on RTl, more intense than any of his other work, even though mustaine did write Call of Ktulu and Ride The Lightning.

[eggs'n'spam]

I think he had the best solos on RTl, more intense than any of his other work, even though mustaine did write Call of Ktulu and Ride The Lightning.

agreed

[eggs'n'spam]

For Shame,no One Has Mentioned That:

Cliff Burton Is Dead 18 Years Today

Really? i thought it was tommarrow..that just makes today seem worse.. :upset:

[Syncratic]

I'm not sure if someone already posted this (and if they did, I apologize) but I read somewhere that Metallica is recording a new album in early 2005....I just hope it's better than most of St. Anger.....

[DisposableHeroes]

For Shame,no One Has Mentioned That:

Cliff Burton Is Dead 18 Years Today

'tis tommorow actually, the 27th

[Po0sH]

RIP Cliff

[Cosmic Assassian]

Cliff, we hardly knew ye. oh how much all of us would have given for one more solo, one more interlude, one more chance of stunning us all as the true four string mutherf***er.

[eggs'n'spam]

Cliff, we hardly knew ye. oh how much all of us would have given for one more solo, one more interlude, one more chance of stunning us all as the true four string mutherf***er.

Well put..May Cliff arise again and show Rob the meaning of bass..over and over..on the head.. :evil:

[mudvayne15923]

IMO Metallica is the best band that has ever been created, (i d/c if st.anger was bad or not) these guys are metal, without them we`d all be jerkin off to fat joe or 50cent or someting, while most of these guys grew up on lets say.. barney and stuff my dad gave me metallica - black album on cassette and i listend to entersandman for ever, i like how they tryed new things in st.anger but i think they should at least fall back onto the black album, i hope they keep making music cause ill listen :)

[mudvayne15923]

Id like some serious responses on which cd do you think Kirk excelled the most on.



its a tie between master of puppets and the black album

[eggs'n'spam]

mudvayne, what do you think of early metallica (RTL and kill em all)?

[andrew246]

Id like some serious responses on which cd do you think Kirk excelled the most on.

I think he is best on justice for all.

[ummm :s]

yer justice for all has good guitar man and screw all u ppl hu get to see metallica no one ever comes to new zealand :(

[ummm :s]

my bad im so tried i ment guitar but yer dw

[Kingofdudes]

People seriously under estimate Rob.

[ummm :s]

yer even thoug hes ugly hes still gd

[guitrguy]

yer even thoug hes ugly hes still gd
English man ENGLISH. I can barely understand that.

[ummm :s]

sorry even though rob is fugly hes still good

[CreepingBlack]

I think he is best on justice for all. well, i guess there is no right answer, but if there was this guy got it. AJFA man. Blackened, One, Shortest Straw, and Dyers eve are my four favorite Hammet solos, and they're all on Justice.

[ummm :s]

yer one is good

[CreepingBlack]

yer one is good
Hammet hit a muffled note in ones third solo. The last part, the first note in the tremelo sequence is muffled.

[ummm :s]

im a bassist really so that crap goes ova my head lol but uh yeahh

[Zmev]

I think he is best on justice for all.


*...And

oh and 123

[\m/Pete\m/]

^^ditto

You can really tell his Satch lessons paid off there

[Paranoidd]

Please don't mention the fact that Hammet learned from Satch. That's a blemish on Hammet if anything.

[Zmev]

Please don't mention the fact that Hammet learned from Satch. That's a blemish on Hammet if anything.

Satch > Hammet

truth be told