Metallica Inc.

[clown_phobia]

would you believe me if i said i am james hetfield?

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

would you believe me if i said i am james hetfield?
would you believe me if i said im outside your door? :naughty:

[GuItarFreEk]

I second that..... *starts daydreaming*

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

i thought the movie already came out? Acording to Revolver magazine.

Oh, maybe they got a sneek view or something (bastards) . Man was looking for that movie everywhere, come to find out , it hasen't even hit theaters yet. Man that sucks.

the movie opens at certain places on certain dates.
http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=3083

[Kreator]

bump.

[FrailandBedazzled1979]

the movie opens at certain places on certain dates.
http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=3083

its going to be in theatres? i thought it was just a home dvd / vhs release.

[Kreator]

that depends on the cinema companies in every countrie. if they think they can make a lot of money with this movie then it will appear in the cinemas

[ludacrishiphop]

no mettalica album is worth more than 7/10 in my oppinion

[clown_phobia]

i really like metallica but i find it hard to listen to a whole album because it goes for so long and i get sick of it. enter sandman is a great song.

[TallicaFan4life]

how can you get sick of it !?!?!

[Triangle]

i dunno!?! how!!!

[Mcpheely]

woah.. this thread is huge... anywho since i started reading this thread i bought a metallica cd and now i listen to them a lot....there awsome and so is this thread

[TallicaFan4life]

congratulations u have made a good choice :thumb:

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

woah.. this thread is huge... anywho since i started reading this thread i bought a metallica cd and now i listen to them a lot....there awsome and so is this thread
we converted one :thumb: Welcome :wave: what album did you buy?

[redoutlaw]

And justice for all is my favorite album, those are real metal songs on the album.

This thread has been ****ing awesome. Props to evryone who has kept this thing going.

Metallica is awesome, and will never die.

[redoutlaw]

I'm pretty excited to see Some Kind Of Monster when it comes out. I bet after everyone who sees it are really gonna see what metallica is about and all the **** they've gone through. People should gain a better respect from them instead of making stupid insults or just completely dissing the guys.

[DeaconPhoenix]

Nope, we'll still see insults flying at poor ol' Lars over the Napster incident.

[redoutlaw]

This thread has been awesome. I say the majority of people who have posted on this thread have been influenced and or inspired by Metallica or respect them one way or the other. I have. I hope people who have read this thread have opened their eyes or have gained a much bigger respect from it. Mcpheely right on bro getting a metallica album. Whether or not you like Metallica everyone who listens to metal or is listens to music must respect Metallica. Theese guys are on top for a reason. They are real, and ****ing have balls. They did what it took. Now that in itself should be inspirational for anyone who picks up an instrument, mic/lyrics or plays drums.

[redoutlaw]

Nope, we'll still see insults flying at poor ol' Lars over the Napster incident.


Its always easy to talk smack about the best. People now-a-days are so envyous that the find poor little excuses to ****ing chop um down. No ones perfect, get over it. I'm sure everyone has made a mistake or two in their lives. Admire the guy for what hees done. Take the good with the bad. Obviously there is more good.

[dead56k]

redoutlaw, i gotta commend you on your loyalty to the band. :chug: your allright in my book. i agree with what you said about lars, its easy as hell to bash him. however, for those of you who dont mind takin a few minutes, go to the official metallica site, and find in the news archives Lars' appeal to the supreme court against napster. His argument hits every point, it makes so much sense.

[TallicaFan4life]

thats because lars is awesome... duh.... lol

[dead56k]

lol yeah he is. only reason i brought it up is because of all the people who says he sucks just cuz of the napster thing. hes a good ****ing drummer, alot of people fail to see that after the napster thing. **** them.

[clown_phobia]

i really like lars' drumming on the black album

[TallicaFan4life]

i think he is a god when it comes to drummers

[superpeer]

I'm back guys. :)


Saw Metallica and a bunch of other bands the last 4 days.

Here's the list :

Michael Franti & Spearhead
Sean Paul
P!NK
The Cure
Basement Jaxx
The Bees
The Rapture
Admiral Freebee
Flip Kowlier
Cypress Hill
Lostprophets
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club
Monster Magnet
Dropkick Murphys
The Darkness
Korn
Metallica
Modest Mouse
Triggerfinger
The Von Bondies
Arsenal
Sugababes
Nelly Furtado
Kosheen
T.Raumschmiere
The Rasmus
Heideroosjes
Within Temptation
The Black Eyed Peas
Ben Harper and The Innocent Criminals
Wu-Tang Clan
Moloko
Muse
Lenny Kravitz
Thou
Broken Social Scene
Daan
Franz Ferdinand
Joss Stone
Zero 7
Sophia
Novastar
Magnus
Danko Jones
Zornik
Starsailor
Lamb
PJ Harvey
Pixies
Placebo
2 Many DJ's (Replacement for Bowie )
Girls In Hawaii
Sioen
Roy Paci & Aretuska
Tortoise
Wilco
Jasper Steverlinck
N*E*R*D
Air
El Tattoo del Tigre

[Squirrel]

*bumps*

Lars is no where near a god of drumming BTW.

[redoutlaw]

The best drummer from metal have been Lars and the Iron Maiden drummer period, Dave Lombardo is a pretty fast mother****er though. Still i'd go with Lars anyday.

[TallicaFan4life]

**** right redoutlaw

[Squirrel]

When you say metal; do you mean just metal or any genre of metal ?

If metal, Lombardo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lars

Other genres, lots of others >>>>>>>>> Lars.

[MurdocodruM]

lars isn't anywhere near the best metal drummer

[dead56k]

*bumps*

Lars is no where near a god of drumming BTW.

no not at all. there are alot better drummers then lars...i think even joey jordison could give him a run for his money. however, saying hes a bad drummer is completely false. Lars is a talented drummer, just not the best in the world.

[naboo]

Lars is pretty good but there are much better, check out Pete Sandoval from Morbid Angel (get the song "drum check"), or Mike Portnoy of Dream Theater, both amazing.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Bump

[Kreator]

When you say metal; do you mean just metal or any genre of metal ?

If metal, Lombardo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lars

Other genres, lots of others >>>>>>>>> Lars.
everyone > Lars

[Squirrel]

This thread really has run out of steam now :(, its page after page of little whiny bastards going *omgz best band evr*; i mean, theyre entitled to their opinion and all, but dont they get bored of driveling on and on about it ?

We may as well just keep bumping as theres crappy Metallica threads starting up again.

[Kreator]

yeah, how are you squirrel?

[JonBT]

just gotta say it....

JAMES HETFIELD IS THE GREATEST FRONTMAN OF ALL TIME!!!! HANDS DOWN!!!

[Squirrel]

yeah, how are you squirrel?

:p, im great thanks :)

How comes you arent on MSN ?

[Kreator]

don't disturb our conversation :p

[Kreator]

:p, im great thanks :)

How comes you arent on MSN ?
i'm too lazy ;)

:wave:

[Squirrel]

Okies ;)

<3

[sweet_skater1234]

amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)


Nothing else matters
Sad but true
fuel
battery
For whom the bell tolls

[youboringlittlecunt]

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[Jellyspoon]

Did anyone ever mention that it was a funny thing for metallica to influence the sound of a generation of bands, only to listen to that new generation and ripp them off, producing St. Anger?

[when_im_gone]

have any of u guys ever tried learning the outlaw torn its pretty fun at least is to me :upset:

[Squirrel]

Yus, it's very fun to play - the solo is also so great when you can get it right - his cool slide effects with wah/delay/echo are just fascinatingly good.

[superpeer]

Did anyone ever mention that it was a funny thing for metallica to influence the sound of a generation of bands, only to listen to that new generation and ripp them off, producing St. Anger?

tr00 dat

[masterpuppets21]

BEST METALLICA ALBUM
hmmmm......i think the black album or MOP

[int00bscurity]

My favorite Metallica album must be ...And Justice For All. I also like both discs of Garage Inc.

[Vai's_Jem]

My favorite is also ...And Justice For All.

[Squirrel]

Garage Inc' - The Wait = AWESOME song.

[Tenacious I]

a long time ago, james had this white guitar with the words "EET FUK" on the side...
does anyone know what it means?

Is it just Eat and ****?, like in "eat, sleep and ****", or something else?

You can see the guitar in the "Binge and Purge" movie****

[Baodegoth]

i think eet fuk means eat fvck....there's not much to it really.

[HeRoOfThEdAy1589]

die die die my darling=GREAT SONG!!!!! they did an awesome job on that one

[Jake02]

lmao... i was talkin to a guy at work today and on the radio enter sandman started playin... and you all know the lyrics but this is what he sang... "EXIT LIGHT!" "ENTER NIGHT" "AMMMMSTEERDAM!!!!" "OFF TO NEVER NEVER LAND''

ive never laughed so hard... at least not at work...

[Baodegoth]

This thread has been awesome. I say the majority of people who have posted on this thread have been influenced and or inspired by Metallica or respect them one way or the other. I have. I hope people who have read this thread have opened their eyes or have gained a much bigger respect from it. Mcpheely right on bro getting a metallica album. Whether or not you like Metallica everyone who listens to metal or is listens to music must respect Metallica. Theese guys are on top for a reason. They are real, and ****ing have balls. They did what it took. Now that in itself should be inspirational for anyone who picks up an instrument, mic/lyrics or plays drums.

It's good to be among family :p

anyway let's continue with the thread...today i've listened to reload very carefuly, analysing(sp) almost every aspect of it....and it's a kick *** album tho i think load is better...i don't really get why ppl don't like these two albums?!...it's probably the thing i most respect metallica for...their ability to change their sound and not suck!imo. you don't see many metal bands taking this kind of risk...you could lose most of your fanbase for "doing something diferent"...i think they deserve all the love for that, you gotta have the balls to do it. Ppl don't understand that has a musician you can't do the same over and over again, you HAVE to change it's crucial for your career (and mental health :lol: )...i'd go nuts if i played speed/trash metal for more than 20 years...but then again ppl don't understand it....oh well maybe someday they will, maybe someday...

BTW my favorite songs on reload are "carpe diem baby", "where the wild things are", "low man's lyric" and "fixxxer". ohh and "the unforgiven II" has the most amazing lyrics...it's very well written.

[Dooflungerfletchface]

Metallica is gay

[vote_bush04]

**** i hate them....kirk hammet is the worst guitarist since hendrix...cliff burton has ****ty bass solos ...there so easy to play..i play them with my barney magical guitar thing...band like slayer.van halen, blink 182 could **** it up the ***....metalica is the defnetion of err....uh..hm...metallica! any of yall who talk **** about them can suck my centimeter pener!! PEACE

[redoutlaw]

Like um or not, If you listen to metal you respect Metallica. They set the bar. Before it was Black Sabbath back then who basically was the **** that everyone listened to and the Metallica came in with a different sound and after awhile just blew top bands away like Van Halen, Metallica became the spotlight, and blew away up and comming bands trying to rise up like Armored Saint, that right there you must respect. People now-a-days don't appreciate ****. They'd rather listen to that nu-metal crap and death metal which is just a ****ing joke because nothing is original. But the thing is its funny that all the bands that you people listen to now, Respect Metallica, but yet moron people like Dooflungerfletchface say "Metallica's gay" What kind of **** is that? Dude your gay, let that be the last post you make.

Metallica did things that have been amazing to say the least. How many bands can play with a ****ing orchestra? Thats just ****ing awesome, like it or not. Personnally i wouldn't blast it out my car hearing Master Of Puppets and hearing violens in the back ground. But the point is I admire what they did. A lot of the greatest guitarists litened to classical and were ****ing awesome, Prime example, Randy Rhoads. YOU have to respect what they did with that, instead of it being gay.

How many ****ing hit songs did Metallica make??? Almost all of them are catchy as ****. amaore Great than satisfactory. I don't thing any of their songs is "bad", but satisfactory. The thing I admire most about them is that they always came back. After cliff passed, they came back. Drug and drinking problems, they came back. Look at the history of problems they had. They held together through Front Man James Hetfield. No other band in my opinion is as strong as Metallica, because no band has hung in there like they did and create such a ****ing Inlfuence from bands all over the world. James is a ****ing strong dude, with a take no prisoners attitude. Tell me what person that has been able to go through all that **** and still be ****ing standing tall.James held things together. The guy even pushed himself to sing so Metallica wouldn't fall apart. You gotta admire him. No other person could do that. Everytime people counted metallica out, they came back. So for people to open their mouth about Metallica is ****ing ridiculous. Get facts before you open your mouth and start bashing. People talk **** about them and yet some people don't even know anything about them, Because if anyone did know them because they've been a big root of Metals History, no comments would ever be made. You can't talk **** about a ****ing Icon band whose made hit after hit. Baodegoth said it great with the changing. Bottom Line, Metallica is #1 and thats no longer an opinion.

This thread has been awesome. Its not running out of steam. Lets keep it goin.

[Six String Fiend]

I don't like Metallica... their songs are just too simple and emotionless. I can see why they are so famous since their songs are catchy and are easy to relate too, but they are better at marketing than they are at playing. Metallica is just pop-metal ;)

-Damien

[redoutlaw]

I don't like Metallica... their songs are just too simple and emotionless. I can see why they are so famous since their songs are catchy and are easy to relate too, but they are better at marketing than they are at playing. Metallica is just pop-metal ;)

-Damien


Dude your a ****ing moron. Your like a ****ing parasite that i'm not even going to waste my time with. Obviously you know nothing about music and is jsut talking out of your ***. Simple and emotionless?? How much more of a dumbass *** can you get? Every line you've typed in more ridiculous and stupid than the other. Go to death metal where all the other ****ing people with no sign of intelligence go. Pop metal? give me a break......

[Kirk-hammet]

you ****in rock redoutlaw, i agree with everything you have said. I ****in hate death metal, sure some bands like opeth are ok, but the gay oo look at me im bad i worship satan and talk about killing myself, just gets annoying and stupid. and all the singer have to sing like they are satan asw ell, what the **** is that. Im hoping that me and my band could ever make it big, to bring back the good versatile metal that metallica is. Heavy, Fast, Slow, Melodic. Metallica does all those things, and thats one of the things that makes them the best. Go listen to you goodcharlotte six string fiend, because im sure that lyrics about ur gf dumping you, and girls sucking, are full of emotions... asshole

p.s. Kirk bring back the solo's!

[dead56k]

I don't like Metallica... their songs are just too simple and emotionless. I can see why they are so famous since their songs are catchy and are easy to relate too, but they are better at marketing than they are at playing. Metallica is just pop-metal ;)

-Damien

i might as well flame you too...3 people should do you justice.

you dont know what you are talking about. chances are, whatever you listen to, your a poser and a follower, listening to whatever your friends do, saying metallica sucks because all you have heard is st. anger. your a fool. leave this thread, and dont let the door hit you on the way out. bye bye now.. :wave:

[TallicaChic]

that guy dissing metallica has got to be one of the dumbest people I've seen on here...that's really sad. Emotionless?! Ha! I pity the fool! Especially if he ever finds himself in a dark alley with a couple of tallica fans..hehe

[clown_phobia]

or he finds himself in a dark alley with the band...

[seniledrummer]

Hello!

I started a thread a long time ago and it got a really good response. I thought that sense the thread has dissapeared I would post it hear to preserve it. Sorry it's so long!

Are Metallica really becoming sold-out, nu-metal **** heads??

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Everyone around here apparently knows everything about metallica, how bad they are, and the reasons they suck. I'm glad you have an opinion, but many of you say biased things with no support behind it. So I would like to clarify some things so that we can finally really get down to the music.

They sold out
Metallica and every other band in the world has apparently sold their soul to corporate america. Metallica is coming out with a video game and a documentary on themselves within the next couple of years, and of course, they are not allowed to do that because you don't like it. My take on these things is that they do it because they can. If you had the oppurtunity to make a videogame how you liked it, with you in it, would you pass up the oppurtunity?
And then, oh god, they changed their style to fit in with THE music today. That makes no sense, they did it because they felt like playing different music. They had no need to do that AND JUSTICE was in the top 10 and THE BLACK ALBUM was number 1. They are doing what they feel like doing. They aren't trying to please you, they are trying to please their fans, and if you don't like it you aren't a fan, they aren't worried about you.


They are *** holes
I've heard people say this, and I have no idea where they thought of this one. If you have ever seen an interview or anything with any member of metallica, you would see that they are nice people who really care about what they are doing. They tour constantly and do many things for their fans which they are very recognized for. They say thank you and show deep appreciation at all their concerts. They have done 3 gigs in one day and are touring endlessly. Sure, right now you are putting the "sold out" label on them right now, because all they are doing is trying to make money right? Wrong! They have done many free gigs just to play. For example: They did a surprise gig at a tailgate party for the oakland raiders to support the team. Back during the black album era, they would play 4 hours every night, and trust me, they didn't have to do that, they aren't paid by the hour. At a concert a few years ago, James Hetfield was sick, so all the opening acts came out and jammed with the band, and then they gave everyone free tickets to another show. They certainly care about what they are doing.


The napster incident
When this happened, I questioned it myself. And everyone gave lars a ridiculously hard time for it. But really he did it for a good reason, and I think I can prove it with this.

If you would please read this, it shows Lars' argument to the senate about Napster.
http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=514

This is part of Napster's response to the settlement
http://metallica.com/index.asp?item=502


They are nu-metal
Everyone says that St. Anger is nu-metal. It has tuned down guitars, and every once in a while they play some chunky riff, and oh god, no solos. First off, they did try to put solos on the album, but it didn't sound right with what they wrote, so they decided not to. There are actually, very many, fast, old school riffs on this album. Sure there is some wierd stuff that I don't like, but what nu-metal band makes the majority of their songs 8 minutes long with no turntable and only 1 lead singer. I've not once heard them say they are nu-metal, or have any desire to be. And they have definitely gotten back to their roots to, this is their setlist on the summer sanitarium:

Battery
Master of Puppets
Harvester of Sorrow
Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Frantic
Sad But True
St. Anger
No Remorse
Seek and Destroy
Blackened
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Fuel
Nothing Else Matters
Creeping Death
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One
Enter Sandman




All in all I am just trying to clear things up. Now maybe some of you will give reason for why say you things. You have every reason to not like their music, but don't make yourself look like an idiot. Whenever you criticise another band, say something you know is true and maybe someone will actually listen to what you have to say!

[Kreator]

Garage Inc' - The Wait = AWESOME song.
s&m - hero of the day = awesome too

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Hello!

They are nu-metal
Everyone says that St. Anger is nu-metal. It has tuned down guitars, and every once in a while they play some chunky riff, and oh god, no solos. First off, they did try to put solos on the album, but it didn't sound right with what they wrote, so they decided not to. There are actually, very many, fast, old school riffs on this album. Sure there is some wierd stuff that I don't like, but what nu-metal band makes the majority of their songs 8 minutes long with no turntable and only 1 lead singer. I've not once heard them say they are nu-metal, or have any desire to be.

Why does everyone moan about St Anger being nu-metal? So many people whinge about it, but, isn't it the best nu-metal you have ever heard? :thumb:

[Baodegoth]

seniledrummer your my ****ing hero! :p i agree w/ everything you've said, but ppl will keep saying that they're gay or soldout or whatever they're calling them these days...so they're soldouts 'cuz they changed their sound? i'm wondering what would ppl call them if the'd still have the same sound after more than 20 years... i'm beting it would be something like "oh dude 'tallica sucks cuz they have a formula and don't want to change it..."...so whatever f*** you! .|.

[drummin_666]

Metallica is gay
EAT SH!T YOU FUKIN PIECE OF CUM SUCKING A$$HOLE! THEY ARE GAY, HUH? THEY ARE ONLY THE MOST SUCCESSFUL METAL BAND OF ALL TIME AND COULD OWN ANY OF YOUR FAVORITE BANDS.
FUK YOU PIECE OF SH!T

[dead56k]

senile drummer just owned all of the metallica haters.

[Lord of Sword]

i dont care what senile drummer wrote, i like metallica, but its impossible for me to listen to st anger. i havent listened to it once without getting a headache. the songs are the same riffs over and over, the same repeating lyrics, its the most boring album ive ever heard, and i own feeder's colour in sound.

'oooooooohh, what a good boy you are', and 'PROJECTOR!!! REFLECTOR!!!! INFECTOR!!!! INJECTOR, PROJECTOR REFRACTOR DEFLECTOR!!!!.'
those 2 lines alone convinced me never to listen to this cd again.

[Paranoidd]

You guys all need to calm down and realize something:

NOBODY IS ROOTING FOR METALLICA TO SUCK

I swear, nobody listens sometimes. Bands progress, yes, it happens. Sometimes they progress in a BAD way (Rush after 1990, Pantera after Trendkill, Black Sabbath, new Slayer aint what it used to be).

You guys all think it's a big conspiracy against Metallica, like people think Metallica isn't cool anymore. Gee, lets hate on Metallica for absolutely no reason. I'm sure there are some idiots who do that, but the majority of people--gasp--actually truly dislike their modern music. I know, call us crazy.

You guys preach about "the best selling metal band of all time." Let me ask you something, who do you think made them that?

I did. So did you.

Every fan who bought an album made them successful. Personally, I stopped buying after the Black album, but some didn't. Why did I stop? I wasn't liking the music anymore. Call me crazy, but I tend to enjoy music with my ears and my mind. You guys sometimes refuse to hear ANYTHING negative about Metallica AT ALL. You go back to the same arguments, over and over again, trying to make things up to justify a flaw instead of just agreeing and admiting they aren't perfect. Example: I've heard people say there are no solos in St. Anger because "Kirk has done all he needs to do and doesn't need to prove anything to anybody." Uh, yeah, thats total BS. Do sprinters stop running after they hit their best time? Do they hang up their best shoes and JOG for the rest of their lives? Hell no. So please, lets never hear that argument again. Maybe he didn't WANT to do solos. Fine. Thats valid, but I'm gonna call him a lazy sod in that case. However, it's still a valid reason. But notice something: people want solos. We WANT good Metallica. Another example: People who blindly appreciate anything such as a BLOODY ANNOYING snare choice that Lars made for St. Anger. Speaking for myself, that was the FIRST thing I noticed on the song, and I literally said "what the fvck?" Many people share this opinion with me. But theres always one person to go "Lars is the best, that snare was so original, it sounded so good, etc." No. You may have liked it, but it didn't fit the music, period. Lars can play with a bat on a beer keg (poking fun at slipknot) if he wants do, but that doesn't make it sound good. I've never seen Lars as that good of a drummer anyways. Listen to any old Metallica, Slayer, or Sepultura recordings. If you can honestly tell me you don't think Igor Cavalera or Dave Lombardo blow Lars away, I'd be surprised. I'm not trying to turn this into a bash, I'm just making a point.

I'm going to use a comparison to Slayer, because in their early days there was a bit of a rivalry going on (not helped by the fact that Kerry King once called Kirk Hammett the most overrated guitarist in the world). Slayer has not CONSIDERABLY changed their sound since Reign in Blood. They've evolved a bit, yes, but that comes with the times/technology. And yes, there are MANY, MANY people who hate on Slayer these days because the new stuff isn't exactly the same as the old stuff. But Slayer never really compromised the sound they wanted to play. They still have retained a great deal of their original fan base (and thats a feat). I don't see a Slayer video game on the horizon anytime soon. Now don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying Metallica is a "sell out" band. They've changed their sound from thrash to be ALOT more radio friendly. If they did it of their own accord, because thats what they want to be/play, then thats fine. You can't accuse them of selling out, because as a radio band, fame/fortune just comes with the territory. It's natural. It's possible that they said "hey, screw making thrash, lets make some happier, melodic stuff so we can get radio play and be rich and famous." It could have happened. BUT YOU CAN'T KNOW THAT unless your name is James, Lars, or Kirk. I don't count Jason because by the time he joined the transition had begun. Nobody can say for sure their motives behind their sound change. That isn't the point. The point is, it happened, and it had two effects:

a) it alienated alot of their older fans who didn't want to hear more melodic, catchy songs
b) it attracted a newer fan base who weren't into the faster, thrashy stuff.

The entire argument about what genre they are? Completely idiotic. Personally, I think people who have to create a hundred sub-genres to classify everything are organizational nazis, but thats my opinion. The people who say Metallica aren't metal or are nu-metal are simply metal elitetists who don't want a radio band tarnishing their sacred genre. I don't really see how anyone can call them "nu" metal when they helped to define the entire metal genre. You can't deny their contribution to heavy music.

Metallica can play whatever music they want. They can make polka albums. It's their band and their decision. But you people really have to lighten up a bit and see things from a completely neutral point of view. Metallica was my favorite band at one point, but I always have the decisiveness to say what I like and what I don't like, and why. I think alot of you guys even lie to yourselves--its easy to see when you struggle to fabricate a justification for a blatently obvious point.

Nobody can knock you for liking a band. But you have to be man (or woman) enough to roll with the punches taken at the band. You have to see the good AND the bad. I can't think of any band in the world that has no faults, or has put out no bad songs. WE ALL WANT GOOD METALLICA, that is the bottom line. You guys just have no realize nobody is hating on St. Anger because its "new" or "it doesn't sound like the old stuff." They could have put out a crappy thrash album too. The point is (and at least most people admit) it wasn't a great album.

I know this was long as fvck, but I'm high and felt like ranting. All my points were rational, so if you wish to respond, please do so in a rational manner.

Thanks.

[clown_phobia]

that's a pretty good post. I read all of it and respect your opinions

[clown_phobia]

what does everyone think of this metallica line-up:

James on vocals & rhythm
dave on lead
cliff on bass
and lars on drums

???

[hamett]

So lets make this a cool metallica thread, were EVERYTHING is allowed. You can flame, talk about how much you love st anger, your fvorite solos, everything....this will be like the death heads thread (4500+) and everything death goes in it...
this is the same idea. i mean, **** there aren't that many death threads, and they ahve a sprecial thread, so wouldn't it make alot more sense to have a metallica Offical thread.



MY FAVORITE SOLO IS...... ALL....BUT SPECIALLY SHOREST STRAW S AND BLEDING ME S AND ONE S AND BLACKNED S :thumb:

[metalmania13]

Metallica sucks, they are horriffic. Hammet is the most overrated guitarist in the world and can suck my d1ck for all i care. Lars is the worst drummer i have ever heard, how about finding some rythym sweetcheeks, huh?? They suck and i hate all you a55holes who like them. You are all trendies trying to fit in and be "hardcore" well listen, Metallica is dead, they are gone, try listening to something good like Aerosmith or Guns N' Roses

FVCK Metallica and all you losers who like them

[Killskull]

Paraniodd, read the whole thing. Great post.

[metalmania13]

Metallica still sucks

[Killskull]

Metallica sucks, they are horriffic. Hammet is the most overrated guitarist in the world and can suck my d1ck for all i care. Lars is the worst drummer i have ever heard, how about finding some rythym sweetcheeks, huh?? They suck and i hate all you a55holes who like them. You are all trendies trying to fit in and be "hardcore" well listen, Metallica is dead, they are gone, try listening to something good like Aerosmith or Guns N' Roses

FVCK Metallica and all you losers who like them

Wow buddy. Hey, whens the last time GNR put an album out ? Oh wait, talk about being dead. And the last album Aerosmith put out, was a compilation of blues covers.
Out of the three bands mentioned in this thread whos still touring ? MetallicA, now tell me whos dead. Dont get me wrong, i love Aerosmith. GNR is alright.
How does MetallicA suck ? You only gave two examples, and they arent even valid. They are just an opinion. Hammet is overrated ? Sure lots of people say that hes really great, but THE most overrated guitarist in the world ? How so ?
And what makes Lars so bad ?You just made a very general staement about him sucking. I dont think he sucks. There thats my opinion, so it must be true, right ?
Oh, and your comment about us listening to MetallicA to be hardcore, i havent laughed like that in a while thank you. Whats so funny is that Guns N' Roses, and Aerosmith are in the next sentence. Congrats on making yourself look like a dip5hit.

[Ledhead89]

Man Metallica Rocks Hands down. No arguement.

[KiLlErC]

metallica Rocks..lol thought it was funny how that dude who just bashed metallica has a beavis and butthead icon and isnt one of them wearing a metallica shirt? - ENouGh Said... I love all theyre stuff- even anger-- Its pretty heavy i think- its missing solos tho-- with rob in the group theyll have a good bass player for the next cd... They need to bring back the solos but keep the long songs- and maybe try a new producer... maybe even try harder on the lyrics even though i like alot of angers meaning - sometimes the lyrics got lame. SKM ep out this upcomming tuesday! I cant wait, gonna get it! Rockon peeps peaceout

[Killskull]

You sound like a really cool dude. ^

[redoutlaw]

What Paranoidd said is as good as it gets. Great post bro. 1st off Kirk Hammet is not overrated. Try listining to every solo the guy has done. They blend so well with the song the majority of the time. Thats why hees rated the way he is, because he can ****ing play guitar thats a fact.

I still don't think St.Anger was that bad of an album, the ****ing thing still hit #1. Personnally i don't refuse to hear anything negative about Metallica. Its just that the negativity that Metallica recieves ultimtelty goes down the ****ter because Metallica has more positives that make it seem that the negatives don't exist. I'm not saying their perfect, but they've been more perfect than a lot of bands have been. I'm not here to justify anything, its just a mere fact if you analzye everything. Metallica played their card right and mostly everything they did raised the bar for other bands and turned to gold. Metallica is going to do what they are going to do and thats it. They are them and they do what they want, thats why they made St.Anger, they did if for them. Metallica has never been about the money, and the Napster thing, that was about principle. As far as Metallica changing their style just for more money and radio ****?? Give me a ****ing break..... They have so much ****ing money that they don't need to do that. They play and do what they want because they want to period.

I do roll with the punches. If you say that James didn't have that great of a voice on kill em all and ride the lightning then i'd agree. But truly there is nothing bad to say about them. Nothing at all. Then people come out with this stupid thing,,,, ST.ANGER, ST.ANGER LOOK AT ST.ANGER,,, give me a ****ing break. You can't just be along with those guys for that long and just jump shipp like that. Thats bull****.Tell me what band has always made an up to the always everyday peoples expectations of great? No band has. To be honest, i refuse to say St.Anger was a bad album because it wasnt. Who really has took the time to hear it all? And i never read anything lyrics for James Hetfield that weren't meaningfull and greatly written. All of his songs have meaning, thats what makes him stand out from everyone. His writting.No person as made more of a meaningful song than Nothing Else Matters.James worte about how people feel everyday and how you wish you could express the way you feel, and James did that. You guys also have to realize that people get older. Metallica arn't little kids anymore. Things change when you get older and wiser and with that everything changes. The guys are just smart talented people. I'm not in denial with anything, theese are facts.

Even if you don't like their music so ****ing what. It doesn't mean that they suck because they don't. Its your opinion of your music. Metallica doesn't suck. This St.Anger album makes me remember when Metallica 1st started. People hated their sound, then people got used to it and it changed everything. Just like St.Anger, its different. It doesn't suck, it's different. Unless you are there day in and day out doing what they were doing to make St.Anger, shut up. People don't even know what it takes to make an album, nether-the-less a good album. And for what James did with rehabb and getting a new bassist, it took a lot of guts a ****ing balls. People expected metallica to be through, and they came and made an album for THEMSELEVES. Whatever metallica makes, from now till their done playing will be whatever it is. It can be a St.Anger part 2 or whatever the hell they want. You guys should respect them, because fankly they have done it all.

Don't say they suck, because they don't. Noone else has done what they've done... No one. They are not selfish, they are not *** holes and they are not full of themselves. Never heard one time where any of the members talked about them being so ****ing awesome. They showed they were great by picking up the guitar and playing. But for people to ****ing talk trash and disrespect them is ****ing ridiclious. People might do it for attention or they might do it because their naturally morons. Regardless of different strokes for diffrent folks crap, they impacted metal tremendously, with that said should people be talking crap about them? It's always easy to talk crap about people who are #1. When your on top every one wants to bring you down.

St.Anger was made almost 2 years ago and people are still talking ****. Its shamefull and pathetic. Besides St.Anger was way much better than ****ing crap music that today is. What is today now? Jet?? ****ing death metal crap? Nu-metal? Is horrific, and terrible. How they hell do bands like that get a record label?? And yet people still have the audacity to talk crap about St.Anger?? Give me a break. Thats so hypocritical. Metal sucks right now period. I take St.Anger anyday of the week because at leat it has meaning.

The thing you have to give credit of Metallica for, is that they are ****ing original. Metal bands today arn't original... they are crap, its all the same. Its a fact. It takes more skill to play all of St.Anger songs compared to the death metal and new metal crap now. Metallica is ****ing #1 and for a reason. They are that **** GOOD. Only band that i give credit to for hanging on to the roots is Black Label Society, listen to what Zakk Wylde has to say about the bands now.

It's true people don't even probably know scales, all Barr Chords pure ****ing Barr Chords.. WOW pure skill,,,, "WOW look at me i'm dressing as if i'm from hell, i'm bruning crosses, i'm bad *** now, I can sing like i'm taking a ****, i don't know what the hell i'm saying but all of you dumb asses like it and i get paid for it."

And people say metallica sucks?? Give me a ****ing break. Every post i've made on this thread has been a fact. Try reading some if you havn't. All i have to say is that at least St.Anger was original, and thats more than half the bands out there can say. Metallica has carried this ****ing torch for a long time, its disgusting to see people try and knock them down. Next time you dis metallica, check to see if any of you have done anything like they have, Made the best selling metal album, Created the best Metal riff, or even then, sell millions of copys and become multi-millionaires. Look at yourselfves before you open your mouths. Especially if you play in a band. Because it takes a lot of hard work and sacrifice, and metallica has done it all. Respect that.

Take what I said for what it's worth. At least myself I can say i know the truth.

[Hitroshimite]

Even if you don't like their music so ****ing what. It doesn't mean that they suck because they don't. It’s your opinion of your music. Metallica doesn't suck.

So? Even if you like their music so ****ing what? It doesn't mean they don't suck because musical taste is subjective. It's your opinion of you music.

Look, no band 'sucks' or 'doesn't suck' on a universal scale because they're exists no universal scale for judging music, only individual ones.

[bigguy69]

that guys cool . i cant help but respect aguy who loves every album by met

[redoutlaw]

So? Even if you like their music so ****ing what? It doesn't mean they don't suck because musical taste is subjective. It's your opinion of you music.

Look, no band 'sucks' or 'doesn't suck' on a universal scale because they're exists no universal scale for judging music, only individual ones.


Dude obviously you didn't read about what i was saying. I was inferring to their accomplishments. Read carefully before making smart *** comments.

[metalmania13]

Metallica sucks, and Hammet is probably gay

[omica]

aerosmith and guns and roses suck big *** dude. steven tyler and axl rose are complete douchebags. metallica has much talent my friend. you are jsut way too closeminded. actualy no aerosmith and guns and roses dont suck just their vocalists. they are complete douchebags and sing like ****. aerosmith's slower stuff is pretty good. but walk this way and anything like that is annoying. axl is a douche. slash is great along with the rest of them. kik is good. hetfield has some great ****ing riffs. lars is pretty **** fine drummer. a lot better than you give him credit for. master of puppets is most excellent. too bad lars is a douchebag. cliff burton is an amazing bass player. metallica has lots of talent. hitroshimite i get what your saying. but its somewhat true and somewhat not. bands can be good or bad. but i mean it all depends on their talent. way too many people i know hate hair metal, but **** they had some rpetty fine ****ing talent. thats what it all boils down to talent. i get what your saying about judging and ****. but that all dpeends on peoples talent. people need to have respect for the greatness of certain types of music instead of just bashing on it. they need to find some good of it.

[Hitroshimite]

Dude obviously you didn't read about what i was saying. I was inferring to their accomplishments. Read carefully before making smart *** comments.

Just because they've accomplished a lot doesn't mean their music is great on a universal scale.

Also, there are plenty of Death Metal songs that are far more difficult to play than the stuff on St. Anger.

[clown_phobia]

what would you (people in general) think of st anger if it was released by another band, as their debut album?

I think people only idss st anger becuase it is inferior to metallica 83-88 (-91?)

[Kirk-hammet]

If you ask me. St. Anger was an awesome Metal album. It was one of the first Metallica albums i listened to, bcuz i never use to be big on them until a couple years ago, and I thought the album was wicked. Then i started listening to thier older CD's and i was like HOLY SH!T this is the best band on the face of the earth. so ya St. Anger may not be a very good Metallica album, but as metal album its pretty **** good. and like alot of ppl say, they tried something new.
And i gotta question for everyone, how do you think Metallica would be if Mustaine never got kicked out and Kirk never joined?

[clown_phobia]

isn't it great that people are making these nice long posts with well explained opinions?

[clown_phobia]

metallica Rocks..lol thought it was funny how that dude who just bashed metallica has a beavis and butthead icon and isnt one of them wearing a metallica shirt?

yeah beavis (blue shirt) is wearing a metallica shirt
and butt-head (black shirt) is wearing an ACDC shirt

EDIT: at least in the show that's what they wear...

[Kirk-hammet]

ya sometimes on merchandise they cant copyright the names or something, so they use 'Skull', and 'Death Rock', i think it is. ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOVE!!!

[Kirk-hammet]

I also have another question does anyone no the order of the band members cutting thier hair. like from who cut it first to last. I no its kind of a stupid question but i thought it would be interesting to know. i think james cut his last and newstead first if im correct but im not sure

[redoutlaw]

Just because they've accomplished a lot doesn't mean their music is great on a universal scale.

Also, there are plenty of Death Metal songs that are far more difficult to play than the stuff on St. Anger.


Your opnion. Your another thick-headed person.

[Killskull]

Ya, Jason cut his first. I remember watching some older vids of them doing some shows, and his hair was gone. As far as James and Lars, im not sure. Kirk only had short hair through the Load days (i beleive).

[Prattinator999]

My friend is going to one of their concerts in fall.
I told him to bring a pick to get it signed by Kirk and he said he would kill for that :thumb:

[Kreator]

i'm sure it's easy to get a signed pick of kirk :rolleyes:

[Hitroshimite]

Your opnion. Your another thick-headed person.

Your opinion. Your another thick-headed Metallica fan.

[Squirrel]

^ pwned :lol:


bumpity :eek:

[Kreator]

:eek: you got him :eek:

[Hitroshimite]

^ pwned :lol:

And how.

[Berner]

Has anyone in here ever reversed the beginning of Blackened? I just did and it is awesome.

[motorbreath53]

Metallica sucks, and Hammet is probably gay
metallica is the greatest band, if youre gonna trash metallica, then get the fuk out you coksucker, hammet if fuking amazing, all of theire music is great one way or another, youre just pissing us all off, and we will hunt you down and kill you :)
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youre probaly one of those freaks, that their only enjoyment outta music is listenin to fvckin low *** tuning, with barking like a dog as their singing

[youboringlittlecunt]

dudes just a couple of questions... what are the definitions of those little mailboxes next to every thread, and what's a "sticky thread"?

[youboringlittlecunt]

Originally Posted by Hitroshimite
Just because they've accomplished a lot doesn't mean their music is great on a universal scale.

Also, there are plenty of Death Metal songs that are far more difficult to play than the stuff on St. Anger.

Dude saint anger shouldn't even qualify as pure Metallica. It's just20% of their type. The rest is bob rock, bob rock, no alcohol, bob rock.

[youboringlittlecunt]

i say dude too much, don't i? :lol:

[superpeer]

You also post too much.

Don't triple post, especially not you.

[youboringlittlecunt]

sorry, just answer my question please...

[Baodegoth]

Nobody can say for sure their motives behind their sound change. That isn't the point. The point is, it happened, and it had two effects:

a) it alienated alot of their older fans who didn't want to hear more melodic, catchy songs
b) it attracted a newer fan base who weren't into the faster, thrashy stuff.
^^ great post i agree w/ you

i always loved 'tallica! well i'm not that old, my first 'tallica album was the black album given by my mom[luv u mom :D] then i started listening to their older stuff i was just amazed by the power of those riffs, than load came out i...[once again my mom offered(sp) me the album :D]...and i thought "wow that's strange....what a change in their sound" but i liked it and so on...i can truly say THAT I LOVE EVERY METALLICA ALBUM! the only song i don't like much is "i desappear(sp)"...other than that it's all good.

Now, of course they're aren't perfect they too are human beings and as normal ppl they have flaws...i just don't think that it has a great impact on their music...AND IF IT DOES well then i must say i like their flaws!:p

I don't know if they changed their sound for the money and to be more "radio friendly" or if they just changed it 'cuz they were sick of doing the same music. i just think that it has been a good change and a hell of a ride imo.

[Kirk-hammet]

I have an issue that most people never talk about. And its James vocal skills. If you ask me Black Album was the best album for his singing. he was so into it, and his voice was so cool. Now he doesnt emphasiz as much even though theres more actual singing now. Its just not the same "Were off to Neva Neva LAND!!!" like it used to be...

[Baodegoth]

well...james sings for the song! what i mean is...he delievers diferently(sp) for each song...the approach is never the same.he interpets(sp) the songs like no one, it's just fvucking awsome! if you ask me i think his voice is better on load than any other album. there's only 1 more singer that i like as much as james and that's sully from godsmack..you can see the styles are similar afterall sully is a big 'tallica fan :p

[motorbreath53]

i just dont like how he says baby and ends almost every word with aahhh nowadays, hes still awesome
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am i considered a noob if i have 85 posts?, like some of u people have thousands

[metalmania13]

roffle my pancakes bitch
METALLICA BLOWS

[TallicaChic]

grow up. everyone knows MetallicA is awesome rather they like it or not.

[MetallicaRULZ192]

roffle my pancakes bitch
METALLICA BLOWS

fukc you faggot go die

[Killskull]

I cant see how someone can mindlessly say that MetallicA sucks. And, on top of that, they dont even say why. Ok, so you dont like the band, doesnt mean they suck.

[sum41roxpunx]

metallica is the reason i picked up a guitar. the songs that first snatched me was just like a couple months ago and it was (i was a hardcore metal hater, and as u can see, i liked punk)(not anymore) was fade to black. it had all the elements of a good song. i'm a composer for music as a hobby and i follow that very song. Intro Melody (catch attention), Intro Solo(grab attention), Melody Change (More agressive, rock style. knock ur socks off. the main riff for the song has got to be the best i've ever heard. i can play it all day till my fingers bleed), Heavy Chorus, Melody, Change of Sound (as u can tell, i don't get very techniqual with the terms) Kick *** solo, fade out. After a long period of obsession over that song, i accidently downloaded MoP. then i had a long period of obsession over those songs. Then i listened to Ride the Lightning, the One, Enter Sandman, Unforgiven, Nothing Else Matters, For whom the bells toll and so on. Kirk Hammet is my Hero. I wanna have his charm, charisma and all around talent. James Hetfield is the coolest band member ever and has a great voice. Hez the one i wanna look like when i play live (the way he plays). when he plays, theres always something about him apart from the fact heez the main singer that everyone notices him more. Newstead's also a great player. My 2nd fav member of that band. too bad he left tho. i hate that new long haired freak. Cliff was also good. his solo's rock. and ya.... despite the fact i'm a hardcore drummer also, i hate lars. Hez just so....... repulsive. but thats just me. the old metallica was best, when they weree young. they weree so much more true to their music. see the live video's before they started making music videos. they seem much more metal and hardcore. the ideal rockstars. nywayz, i thought i'd add on to the thread and share wut i thought.

[Kreator]

the song is called one not the one

[Squirrel]

We need some rules in here: this place is being over run with these little noobs just swearing and talking incoherent crap page after page.

Motorbreath, yes, you are a noob, not just postcount but you just suck generaly.

[Mark. A]

roffle my pancakes bitch
METALLICA BLOWS

go give your opinion to people who actually care about you!!!

[superpeer]

We need some rules in here: this place is being over run with these little noobs just swearing and talking incoherent crap page after page.

Motorbreath, yes, you are a noob, not just postcount but you just suck generaly.

Once I get modded, I'll clean this thread up.

Or try anyway, if I ever get modded...

[Squirrel]

Thanks Superpeer :)

I think you'll definately make mod, youve got my vote :)

[drummin_666]

what does everyone think of this metallica line-up:

James on vocals & rhythm
dave on lead
cliff on bass
and lars on drums

???

i like the idea of having cliff in there...but kirk is sooo much better than dave.

[Hitroshimite]

kirk is sooo much better than dave.

No.

[Berner]

Has anyone in here ever reversed the beginning of Blackened? I just did and it is awesome.Anyone?

[Abbath]

Anyone?

I heard a recording of it some time ago. It didn't remind me of blackened at all. I like the one on the cd best, though. Nothing is like the blackened intro at a metallica show :thumb:

[superpeer]

kirk is sooo much better than dave.


Not really.

[Abbath]

Has anyone heard of this:
Dave suggested that Metallica and Megadeth should do a show together, where dave would sing the metallica songs and James would sing the Megadeth songs.

What do you think of that idè?? I read it on metalslug.com or something like that...

[superpeer]

Anyone?

Yes, it did sound awesome. :)

[RavenousMetalist87]

Yes, it did sound awesome. :)

I think I'm going to try that sometime lol

[HeRoOfThEdAy1589]

lars is going to be on conan o'brian tonight

[Huesy888]

lars is going to be on conan o'brian tonight

I can second that I saw it on the Metallica website.

Also, did anyone see on Lars and James on McEnroe the other night? What did you think?

[HeRoOfThEdAy1589]

id like to thank squirrel for being an awesome person he is awesome. he gave me a name called witchhunter(because i guess i did a good job dissing someone for dissing metallica) and that was kewl, man those were the good kinda ol' days before a lot of noobs came. haha yet i am pretty new but there have been tons of new people that ive never seen before come in here. also burdcheese was a pimp.....what happened to him?



metallica rocks my socks
^ i saw that everytime i get off toppic

[TallicaFan4life]

METALLICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sorry im bored

[motorbreath53]

to all metallica haters out there
get the hell out, and have a nice cup of shut the fvck up
............:chug:

drink up biach
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[QUOTE] Motorbreath, yes, you are a noob, not just postcount but you just suck generaly. [QUOTE]

what do you people got against me, so big deal, i dont have 3,000 posts, cut me some slack, im just tryin to fit in, but i gues some of you people are so into this mx world that it has to be perfect in every way, it dont... its just some stupid internet thing, who cares, you people are making this seem like its a life and death situatoin if somone triple posts, big deal. i could really give a flying **** about what i write nd how i write it, you people are just a bunch of thick-headed people who care soo much about a little chat room forum thing
thank you for your time, and METALLICA OWNS

[crossface]

http://www.sexyjameshetfield.com/fb171 :lol:

Bread or Not?

If not, Who?

:lol:

[bball_1523]

I'm not sure if someone posted about this or not, but did you guys read about Mustaine lashing out against metallica for their SKOM movie? He said they used footage of him that he did not give permission to. And Lars said it was for the better for dave.

here's the story:

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=24452

Lar's Ulrich wrote a response to:

http://www.roadrun.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=24566

I think it was wrong of Metallica to do that and if someone says no, then the answer is no.

[TallicaFan4life]

forget it being better for dave... its better for metallica... screw mustaine

[Baodegoth]

man everyone slams metallica for anything these days!...let 'em take the prize who cares?fvck 'em all

[Squirrel]

id like to thank squirrel for being an awesome person he is awesome.

:cool:, thanks man, means a lot to me :) ( seriously )


Anyone started work on their St. Anger solos ? i've written a hashed up version of a Frantic one so far, im having trouble getting a St. Anger one to work though.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

to all metallica haters out there
get the hell out, and have a nice cup of shut the fvck up
............:chug:

drink up biach

Yeah, whats with all the sudden anti-metallica threads?! Metallica rule

[superpeer]

The whole first page is sucking right now.

[-=The_Dude=-]

i cant believe this thread has 5400 posts

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Has anyone heard 'Mastertarium' ? Absolutely amazing! :thumb:

[superpeer]

Hah, no, what is it. A remix?

[HeRoOfThEdAy1589]

mastertarium?? :confused: never heard of it

[Kickflip_Burrito]

No guys, its a live recording, apparently it was done at Summer Sanitarium 2000. If you don't know, when Metallica perform Master Of Puppets, they always end it before the solo, apparently because Kirk can't play the solo properly anymore. So what they did during Master, when it got to the solo, the echoed the 'Master....master' (when hetfield's voice gets lower and lower) and there is like a second or silence then they go into Sanitarium. They play Sanitarium and just as the Sanitarium solo is done (after the heavy part) they skillfully go straight back into Master Of Puppets (the verse after the MoP solo). The transition is very smooth and sounds so good, the distortion throughtout the song is great :thumb: you can download it off of Kazaa.

[cliffburtonrules]

No guys, its a live recording, apparently it was done at Summer Sanitarium 2000. If you don't know, when Metallica perform Master Of Puppets, they always end it before the solo, apparently because Kirk can't play the solo properly anymore. So what they did during Master, when it got to the solo, the echoed the 'Master....master' (when hetfield's voice gets lower and lower) and there is like a second or silence then they go into Sanitarium. They play Sanitarium and just as the Sanitarium solo is done (after the heavy part) they skillfully go straight back into Master Of Puppets (the verse after the MoP solo). The transition is very smooth and sounds so good, the distortion throughtout the song is great :thumb: you can download it off of Kazaa.
thats not true i saw metallica live at the forum during their madly in anger tour this year and they played master of puppets perfectly kurt may not be as good as he was but he can still rock!!!!

[cliffburtonrules]

i mean that's not true that kirk cant play the solo i believe u about mastertarium and now i wanna hear cause ppl say it's good

[newstedizgod1221]

Oh man, trust me..kirk still rocks. Just the other day, I, from an "unknown" source, was listening to him mess around on the guitar in the studio, it was recorded within the lasy year, maybe it was just that tour? I don't know. Well, does anyone know of news of a new album?

Keep it thumpin'

[cliffburtonrules]

how do u think metallica would be different if cliff hadn't died.... r.i.p...... he rocked he had one of the most gifted minds in terms of writing/playing and there wouldn't be all these jason vs. cliff threads

give me ur opinion on how they would be different

[HAMMETT=GOD]

Does anyone know what is going to be on the Some Kind of Monster cd thats coming out on the 13th?

[HAMMETT=GOD]

O ya and i think that Metallica would be so much better if Cliff hadnt died but you see then we pry wouldnt have had the same AJFA or black album or load or reload and we pry wouldnt even have a st. anger. I think that they would have a completely different sound. But then again in a way jason kinda pushed the band in a different direction becuase he had a different playing style than Cliff (R.I.P). Anyway thats just my opinion.

[newstedizgod1221]

how do u think metallica would be different if cliff hadn't died.... r.i.p...... he rocked he had one of the most gifted minds in terms of writing/playing and there wouldn't be all these jason vs. cliff threads

give me ur opinion on how they would be different

With all do respect, Cliff Burton..may he rest easy...was a great bass player..an amazing bass player. If he didn't die, it would be different, way different. I think Newsted though, is an awesome player, AMAZING! Without Jason, we wouldn't have a "Blackened". I can't really say what it would be like if that ice wasn't on that road. It sure would be different though. I'm sad Jason left too..he had his reasons..I kinda agree with him..in a way..

R.I.P Cliff

[HAMMETT=GOD]

I also think that if Cliff were still with us(God rest his soul) we would have a few more instrumental Metallica tracks.

[HAMMETT=GOD]

I wonder what would come out of Metallica if Zakk Wylde were to replace Kirk Hammett for an album or 2?

Please give your opinion on the subject.

[newstedizgod1221]

If zakk wylde replaced kirk? EVIL COMMUNISTS!!! hehe im just kidding. But..it would be weird, so different sounding..very strange and uncomfortable. Interesting..but i dont think i would like it..but who knows..

Keep it thumpin'

[Hitroshimite]

I wonder what would come out of Metallica if Zakk Wylde were to replace Kirk Hammett for an album or 2?

Bob would suggest taking out the solo's and Zakk would beat him into a pulp with a length of pipe. And then I'd laugh, because the image of someone getting beaten with a length of pipe by Zakk Wylde is really funny.

[newstedizgod1221]

Here's an interesting switch-off. Ok..Rob leaves..and..lets say..I don't know..Jason Newsted took up bass? It will happen..oh yes..the 'Sted will rejoin in his rightful place..oh yes..he will :D

:wave: im alittle nutty :wave:

you cant tell me that smile is freaky kinda

[cliffburtonrules]

With all do respect, Cliff Burton..may he rest easy...was a great bass player..an amazing bass player. If he didn't die, it would be different, way different. I think Newsted though, is an awesome player, AMAZING! Without Jason, we wouldn't have a "Blackened". I can't really say what it would be like if that ice wasn't on that road. It sure would be different though. I'm sad Jason left too..he had his reasons..I kinda agree with him..in a way..

R.I.P Cliff
ya i guess ur right.....
it's too bad the bus driver fell asleep though cause i mean james and lars said there was no ice....
but i agree in the fact that tere wouldn't be many of the great metallica songs that there r today

[newstedizgod1221]

Bob would suggest taking out the solo's and Zakk would beat him into a pulp with a length of pipe. And then I'd laugh, because the image of someone getting beaten with a length of pipe by Zakk Wylde is really funny.

Yes very funny..and creepily beleivable too :naughty:

[HAMMETT=GOD]

Bob would suggest taking out the solo's and Zakk would beat him into a pulp with a length of pipe. And then I'd laugh, because the image of someone getting beaten with a length of pipe by Zakk Wylde is really funny.
-Hiroshimite

LMFAO! Bob Rock blows dogs I would pay so much to see that!

[newstedizgod1221]

I love this thread...

[HAMMETT=GOD]

We all do man, we all do.

[cliffburtonrules]

except for those punks who rite crap in here just to sound cool

[motorbreath53]

Bob would suggest taking out the solo's and Zakk would beat him into a pulp with a length of pipe. And then I'd laugh, because the image of someone getting beaten with a length of pipe by Zakk Wylde is really funny.
I WOULD LAUGH MY *** OFF IF I SAW THAT

[burtonbassist_101]

c'mon, guys...we got to keep this thread goin!

what does everybody think of the song "struggle within"?

[TallicaChic]

I never really listened to the end of the black album but ever since I did I've been obsessed with that song...especially the riff right after the solo...awesome song.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

The Struggle Within is a great song, apparently, they have never performed that song live

[metal_man]

The Struggle Within is a great song, apparently, they have never performed that song live

Master of Puppets is the best song but the strugle within is ok
THE SOLO IN MASTER OF PUPPETS IS SICK

[Kreator]

yeah the dolo :rolleyes:

EDIT: :eek: you edited it

[metal_man]

lol im not a good speller

[metal_man]

metallicas new stuff sucks comopared to there old stuff

[DimebagDarrell]

^correct :lol:

[Kreator]

you mean your not a good typ0r

[Kreator]

i like metallica's new stuff more :rolleyes:

[Triangle]

do ya reckon they'll ever release a greatest hits album?

[Kreator]

sure.

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Yes Metal_man, Master of Puppets is a good song with a good solo. I think the solo for Dyers Eve, Blackened and Ride The Lightning are their best solos

[Kreator]

no damage inc solos is teh best. OmG

[cliff_is_god]

CLIFFORD LEE BURTON R.I.P. best bassist who ever lived. no 1 today even comes close. helpin metallica out through their first 3 albums by providing lead bass tunes and kick*** solos. any1 ever wonder what metallica would be like today if Cliff was still here? all the songs would be a lot better than that newstead ****. robs good too, but.... dont u think hes got just a little too much energy? comic releif in a way. may Metallica provide us with more of there music for years to come

[timmccarty143]

john myung could slay him, as much as i like metallica, cliff burton is NOT the best bass player ever, i think rob might be better than him too actually.

[LowEndHudy]

CLIFFORD LEE BURTON R.I.P. best bassist who ever lived. no 1 today even comes close. helpin metallica out through their first 3 albums by providing lead bass tunes and kick*** solos. any1 ever wonder what metallica would be like today if Cliff was still here? all the songs would be a lot better than that newstead ****. robs good too, but.... dont u think hes got just a little too much energy? comic releif in a way. may Metallica provide us with more of there music for years to come
Thank You God for letting someone else see how much Cliff rocked, by FAR the best bassist and no one has done what he did since him or even came close. Orion is Metallicas best song in my opinion, and for any bassist wishing to get Cliff's distorted sound its pretty simple. He used a Morley Power Wah and Electronic Harmonix Big Muff distortion. I own the distorion and using a P-bass it sounds pretty amazing.

[lilpete86]

Lets not let this turn into a best bassist argument.

[Kreator]

someone close this before it gets the biggest thread

[TallicaFan4life]

while cliff was a really good bass player.. i cant deny.. i think there is no actual BEST out there anywhere i think there is just a whole bunch of very skilled people and it all depends on your own opinion to determine the best in your eyes (or ears in this case)

[Tenacious I]

Cliff was the best!
but Newsted is better then Trujillo... way better

[Squirrel]

someone close this before it gets the biggest thread

123

[selloutpunx]

suck suck suck suck suck suck

[selloutpunx]

did i mention they suck?

[UndercoreVictim]

no one can top cliff. cliff was the best bassist metallica ever had

[UndercoreVictim]

why cant you guys let poor cliff rest in peace? it must suck to be criticized even after yer ded

[MetalHead13]

Even though Metallica's old stuff is better than there new stuff, there new stuff is good compared to some of the other bands out there

[MetalHead13]

Its kinda hard for them to out-do themsleves after about 11 albums of kick *** songs

[metallica fan]

metallica rule but i was dissapointed by s.t anger

[superpeer]

Bump?

[EET_FUK]

okay, i didnt read all the 219 pages on here so this might of been discussed already but what do you all think Metallica would be like if Mustaine was still in?
why was he kicked out or whatever anyway?

[Triangle]

after Cliff went, it all went kinda downhill from there

[EET_FUK]

after Cliff went, it all went kinda downhill from there

i agree, but what about Mustaine?

[cliffburtonrules]

while cliff was a really good bass player.. i cant deny.. i think there is no actual BEST out there anywhere i think there is just a whole bunch of very skilled people and it all depends on your own opinion to determine the best in your eyes (or ears in this case)
i agree........ there are only best bass players in their own styles in my opinion the style of cliff's playin was his own so the makes him one of the best bass players

[EET_FUK]

okay, i didnt read all the 219 pages on here so this might of been discussed already but what do you all think Metallica would be like if Mustaine was still in?
why was he kicked out or whatever anyway?

abc

[cliffburtonrules]

Even though Metallica's old stuff is better than there new stuff, there new stuff is good compared to some of the other bands out there
true i just wanna know 1 thing....... WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE SOLOS?!?!?!

[cliffburtonrules]

ok does nebody realize some of the lyrics to metallica songs?

mater of puppets - about the holocaust (album cover and the phrase "i will occupy, i will help u die, i will run through u, now i rule u too"

ride the lightning- innocent guy getting electric chair (Guilty as charged
But **** it, it ain't right
There is someone else controlling me
Death in the air
Strapped in the electric chair
This can't be happening to me )

creeping death - moses and the plauges (Slaves
Hebrews born to serve, to the pharaoh
Heed
To his every word, live in fear ......
Now
Let my people go, land of goshen
Go
I will be with thee, bush of fire
Blood
Running red and strong, down the nil
Plague
Darkness three days long, hail to fire .......
Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first born man
Die by my hand
I creep across the land
Killing first born man.......
Blood
Lambs blood painted door, I shall pass)

thats all i can think of

[Hitroshimite]

Master of Puppets is about cocaine, and how it can control you. You're the 'puppet', and cocaine is your 'master'. Get it?

[Orion7]

http://www.allmetallica.com/info/songinfo.php

The site has the meanings of every song. There are some crazy ones.... like Harvester of Sorrow being about a drug addict/alcoholic dad losing it and killing his family. It also says how The Thing That Should Not Be and For Whom the Bell Tolls were taken from books.

Man, Metallica has some meaningful songs...

[Baodegoth]

"For Whom The Bell Tools" was writen by Ernest Hemmingway. "TTTSNB"...i have no idea.

[Abbath]

"the thing that should not be" is the monster in the book "the call of Ctulu".

[Sandtrap]

This thread has become meaningless!

[Paranoidd]

People complain about those of us who criticize metallica, but we keep it interesting :lol:

[bassplayer15]

SANDTRAP- your right this thread has become meaningless

[cliffburtonrules]

how has it become meaningless?

[Po0sH]

Its not meaningless, LONG LIVE METALLICA, the BEST BAND IN THE WOORRRRRRRLLLD!

[cliffburtonrules]

Its not meaningless, LONG LIVE METALLICA, the BEST BAND IN THE WOORRRRRRRLLLD!
amen brother amen

[Prattinator999]

Bump?
:confused:

[Paranoidd]

Its meaningless because there is nothing left to say. How many times can you state your favorite album, song, or solo?

[Squirrel]

mater of puppets - about the holocaust (album cover and the phrase "i will occupy, i will help u die, i will run through u, now i rule u too"

If thats what you think then,

1. You are retarded
2. You cant read or interpret the extremely obvious lyrics.

[TallicaFan4life]

i have a quick question... who knows about what happened with the pyro during "fade to black" when james got burned? Because i have heard like 6 different stories

[Squirrel]

They changed the position of the pyro thingies, James stood in the wrong place at the wrong time and had his left hand burnt.

[TallicaFan4life]

and about the song master of puppets its about drug (especially heroin) addiction and its consequences.
--------OR---------

If the song refers to the album's cover, the song could stand for how the government controls soldiers' lives and send them into death. Depending on the lyrics the cover artwork would better fit to "Disposable Heroes".

The government: The hands with strings which are connected to
-the white crosses on the ground. The hands are in the sky because
-in the figurative sense the government stands above everything.
-The government conrols - pulls the strings.

The soldiers: Stand for the white crosses which are used for the burial of
-deceased soldiers of war. At the cross on the left of the cover there is
-an army helmet and at the cross in middle of the cover there is an army
-identification tag hanging on. The high grown grass could maybe hint at
-that the graves are old or that the nameless soldiers are falling into oblivion.

[Squirrel]

^ Way to steal off of a website there ^


Also the cover refers 99% towards Disposable Heroes; the title Master of Puppets is the only thing in the song that really indicates war.

[playguitar]

For the last time master of puppets is about cocaine! how does chop your breakfast on a mirror refer to war? What about taste me you will see, more is all you need. I don't think people who taste war want more. none of those make sense about war.Disposable heroes is what the cover is about. okay?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

taste me you will see, more is all you need. - could be about power

[HeRoOfThEdAy1589]

jeeze people no its not about power.... its about cocaine and drinking go to allmetallica.com it explains everything on every song...unless ur saying that as in power the drugs and cocaine have the power over you

[Kickflip_Burrito]

Out of the 3 Metallica DVD's, which do you think is best, Live Sh*t, Cunning Stunts or S+M and why?

[Facsimile]

Live ****. I haven't seen it yet, but just yesterday, I saw Blackened, and instantly it became my favourtie.

[cliffburtonrules]

u forgot cliff 'em all
thats a kick*** dvd

[lilpete86]

I've found and am downloading a bootleg of the metallica set at download

:cool:

[Abbath]

I've found and am downloading a bootleg of the metallica set at download

:cool:

WOW! Where did you find it?? Kazaa?? I really want to see it...

[lilpete86]

Its not a video its just audio. If you have msn I could send it you. The sound quality isn't great though.

[feetus]

i am proud to say that i have every album exept s+m and Garage Revisited

[i hate yngwie]

Due to the recent influx of idiot threads regarding Metallica here is the OFFICIAL Metallica thread. Please post EVERYTHING Metallica related in this thread and DO NOT make any additional threads regarding Metallica.


Thankyou.


why not just go too www.metallicabb.com/forum to discuss metallica, anyway the musicians forum on metallicabb.com beats this one by far!!

and no, not all threads are about metallica, or stuff like "kirk hammett is the best" none of that ****, i mean im not a real huge fan of metallica, but i luv the forum!! check it out

[lilpete86]

NO ADVERTISING!!

:angry:

[Squirrel]

:eek: bump

[lilpete86]

So if anyone wants to hear a couple of those bootlegs just let me know. Their not very good sound quality but their interesting none the less

[TallicaFan4life]

^ Way to steal off of a website there ^

i know i took it right off the site because i am trying to show you guys what it means.

[TallicaFan4life]

id like to hear it lilpete could you send it to my msn name? tell me if you need it

[timmccarty143]

Cliff was the best!
but Newsted is better then Trujillo... way better

i really hate to start this up again but this pissed me off more than anything today, its comletely backwards. rob is a way better player than jason. rob's too good for a pick.

[metallica fan]

anybody got any tips on playing master of puppets solo 2nd one?

[Kickflip_Burrito]

u forgot cliff 'em all
thats a kick*** dvd

crap! sorry man, Cliff 'Em All ain't so well known in the UK, well, you sometimes see it in shops but not near as enough as the other three, hence me forgetting. :upset:

I think Cunning Stunts is the best DVD, their performance overall is f*cking great and the destruction scene is incredible :thumb:

[Prattinator999]

Just go ahead and put a sticky on this thread :thumb:

[Kickflip_Burrito]

^^ agreed

[cliffburtonrules]

crap! sorry man, Cliff 'Em All ain't so well known in the UK, well, you sometimes see it in shops but not near as enough as the other three, hence me forgetting. :upset:

I think Cunning Stunts is the best DVD, their performance overall is f*cking great and the destruction scene is incredible :thumb:
it's ok man it's just tyhat cliff is one of my favorite bassists so it stuck out u not listing it.... u should definately check it out.... the quality kinda sucks in the first few songs but it's still cool

[JumpInTheFire00]

I NEED HELP! i want to play as fast as Kirk Hammet ,but some of his solos are crazy can u ppl give me tips on

artificial harmonic-Am I Evil? and riffs/chromatics to play fast solos like one of the masters Kirk Hammet

and tips!!used by METALLICA! if you can help me i thank you.Email me at Metallica023@aol.com THANKS!

[TallicaChic]

there is really nothing to say but practice. that's the only thing that's gonna make you better...try breaking his solo's up into little pieces and mastering those with high speed then putting them with more parts until you're good at the whole thing.

[lilpete86]

id like to hear it lilpete could you send it to my msn name? tell me if you need it


Feel free to add me peter_alcock@hotmail.com

the sound quality ain't great though