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SonorKen
05-04-2004, 12:31 PM
I'll tell ya what to do. Goto www.dannycarey.org
Once there enter the site then click on education
Once in the education link click on cyberclinics
Watch all 3 of those cyberclinics and then let us know what you think. Be sure to read the description about each clinic. SFK.

Photophobic
05-04-2004, 12:32 PM
ok, beats homework, thanks :thumb:

Photophobic
05-04-2004, 12:52 PM
Well, the first two were pretty good, but he's not THAT amazing. He does however compose and work with his rythm section incredibly well.The solo bit was better, but there were some annoying sounds in there, mostly the cymbal patterns.

SonorKen
05-04-2004, 12:54 PM
Tab it out and then you will see what so great about it...

Photophobic
05-04-2004, 12:57 PM
I'm not saying it wasn't great, or that I could play or compose anything like that well, but he's not as totaly awesome as you made him out to be. Something about the beats just didn't do it for me.

SonorKen
05-04-2004, 01:03 PM
I guess your last chance would be to download some of the music and listen to the full songs. Yea, go try that.....

Wierd-Shadow
05-04-2004, 01:05 PM
Is anyone here going to the Metallica concert May 9th in Winnipeg? It is going to OWN!!!

Has anyone been to there shows of the same tour? They better not of went all 'St.Anger!'

Photophobic
05-04-2004, 01:09 PM
^^geez, relax they only play like 2 or 3 songs of St.Anger because ****s like you whine about it so much. And SFK, I don't have anyway to download songs unless someone gives me a link.

livefastdieyoung
05-04-2004, 01:12 PM
Hey LFDY! Caught me over here did ya! Well the drum forum is boring today so I thought I would try to do some good over here hehe!


Yeah,it is really boring today on the drum forum :lol:
For Photophobic : try downloading Kazaa?

Burdcheese
05-04-2004, 01:17 PM
SFK: I thought better of you than to come here and start a flame-war.
Lars is by no means the greatest drummer in the world, but he is far more than competent and definately does not "suck"

Photo: As LFDY said - Kazaa

Photophobic
05-04-2004, 01:19 PM
I used to have Kazaa but when I got my new computer I didn't want to download it again, as it was slowing up my computer pretty bad and I think I got a virus through it, although that can't be proved. One of these days I may get it back I guess.

livefastdieyoung
05-04-2004, 01:27 PM
I used to have Kazaa but when I got my new computer I didn't want to download it again, as it was slowing up my computer pretty bad and I think I got a virus through it, although that can't be proved. One of these days I may get it back I guess.

Well,i use it quite a lot.I download a lot of drumming videos from it...

SonorKen
05-04-2004, 01:39 PM
SFK: I thought better of you than to come here and start a flame-war.
Lars is by no means the greatest drummer in the world, but he is far more than competent and definately does not "suck"

Photo: As LFDY said - Kazaa

Nah, I didnt come here to start a flame war, I really don't like Lars and was just shouting it out. It kind of evolved into a "discussion" then I thought I would try to sway a young drummer from his wayward path!

Now I shall clear up my Lars comments. I think he does suck. Its my opinion, everyone has one. I will say this, as I said earlier, I LOVED Lars and was a HUGE Lars fan when he actually played drums. I fear Lars has become to stagnant to ever regain his skills. It would take alot of effort on his part to get back to the skill level he was at in his early career. Being the fan I was I took all his laziness personal hence my deep seated anger towards his drumming skills. Anyway, its a dead horse, has been a dead horse for years, and this will probably be the very last time I bring it up. Now, if someone else brings it up its fair game!

youwannahitthatpost
05-04-2004, 01:46 PM
Metallica ROCK!
in my opinion the best band out
fave song has to be sanitarium (for now anyway, i change a lot)
dude there is alot better bands than metallica now...... personally i think megadeth is better...

RideThePuppets
05-04-2004, 01:55 PM
Metallica have stood the test of time. Whether you are a die-hard fan of theirs or not, you can't help but give them all the respect they deserve. It's their ability to play anything they want, (blues, thrash, rock-ballads), and play it well that I respect the most. Most of all they're an inspiration, not only to the fans but also to other bands.
Personally I prefer their older stuff, Puppets, R.T.L, K.T.A but there's nothing of theirs I don't like. :cool: <--That emoticon says it's cool, but he looks like a geek.

RideThePuppets
05-04-2004, 02:41 PM
Wow, I killed that conversation then! :lol:

Burdcheese
05-04-2004, 02:42 PM
^^Fear ye not - it shall start again!!

SlaveToTheGrind
05-04-2004, 03:07 PM
Message to SlaveToTheGrind- Your avatar rocks. Sweet guitar, is it yours? What make/model is it?

thanks :) no unfortunately, i have a bc rich warlock platinum. that's a bc rich beast.

ToolOwnz
05-04-2004, 03:50 PM
photophobic...DL kazaa...search for Kazaa lite.......uninstall kazaa...no more spyware...that said

Daney Carey puts Lars to shame as a drummer. I loved Lars drumming on the Big 3 metallica records (lightning, master, Justice.) after that i hated lars playing. watching them live was cool, Lars has good skillz, he just doesnt use them anymore, and has probably lost them. I do not listen to any new metallica, its beyond generic.

Daney Carey: im sure u have someone u know that listens to Tool. If u can find any song from Aenima and you will realize how far short Lars falls as far as technique goes. If I could recommend some songs, The grudge (lateralus) 46and2 (Aenima). <- both these 2 songs have drum solos in them and they are insane. other songs: Third eye, Undertow, Triad (instrumental)

If you do DL kazaa lite, and u search for tool, you will find a Daney Carey drum solo on there. Simply amazing ****. There is also a song on Salival called Merkaba, where he solos in 11/8, soling over a vocal phrase, keeping in time with the phrase as hes soloing.

Other drumers that I feel are way better than Lars: carter beauford (Dave Matthews Band) Check out The Dreaming tree, The Stone, Warehouse

Neil Pert (Rush) check out Natural Science, Jacobs Ladder, Subdivisions Tom Sawyer.

Mike Portnoy (Dream Theater, Liquid Tension Experiment) Check out Erotomania, A Change Of Seasons Fatal Tragedy (Dream Theater) and When The Water Breaks, Acid Rain, Paradigm Shift universal Mind. (Liquid Tension, an instrumantal project that is insane, check this stuff out regardless)

I dont think Metallica can ever redeem themselves in my eyes. How they went from a masterpiece like justice to hit singles on Black ill never get over...and Load, BlowLoad, and st anger are all piles of puss IMO...

Burdcheese
05-04-2004, 04:37 PM
I finally got round to buying myself Reload at the weekend. The first time I listened to it I hated it. However second listening it really grew on me. There's some odd stuff on there - kind of trippy in a way - but its all pretty cool. Not thrash obviously, but it shows great musical variety.

naboo
05-04-2004, 04:43 PM
^^ Dude (ToolOwnz), you didn't like his drumming on ...And Justice For All?! I think his drumming was at best on that album even though it was a little loud in the mix.

gernm17
05-04-2004, 08:59 PM
^ i agree his drumming on justice is just awesome, the whole album it's great

and master of puppets too, i dont know why people keep saying the first 2-3 albums bull****, the best one by far was ajfa(i'm talking about drumming)

the first 2 albums there was a lot of just fast playing, in mop and ajfa, there's a little of everything, and if u want fast u get the 2 fastest songs here, battery and dyers eve and blackened's drums are amazing too(love the double bass)

Scotti912
05-05-2004, 03:15 AM
I never thought his drumming was good on justice. Whenever I listen to it on my computer I hit the mouse with my thumb and it sounds like his snare.

ToolOwnz
05-05-2004, 04:59 AM
^^ Dude (ToolOwnz), you didn't like his drumming on ...And Justice For All?! I think his drumming was at best on that album even though it was a little loud in the mix.

na man i loved the drumming on justice. Ill look over my post again maybe I didnt type it right..for my 14th birthday I got a series10 (lol) jimi style flying V, a POS Gorilla amp, ..And justice for all (cassette tape w00t) and the ...and justice for all tab-book...the rest is history. Justice is my fav metallica album..Its going from Justice to Black that i have a problem with. The Sound quality on justice could have been better, you can heardly hear the bass guitar, and the mix is insane (due to james putting down like 8 rhythm guitars)...Now, I would like to hear Justice remixed like the black album was. I actually like the 'sound' of the black album, its just the songs that suck. (My Friend of misery is pretty cool)

btoto
05-05-2004, 08:57 AM
i guess St.Anger has the best drumming since Justice album.
what do you guys think?

livefastdieyoung
05-05-2004, 09:42 AM
I never thought his drumming was good on justice. Whenever I listen to it on my computer I hit the mouse with my thumb and it sounds like his snare.

The sound of his snare has nothing to do with his drumming man.
I've never really liked Lars,but his drumming fits the music,i have to give him that :) .Take for instance One.I like that song a lot.But i haven't learnt to drum it,because i think it's really boring to drum(except for the double bass part,i love that :lol: ).Lars is decent,but he is overrated.But his drumming fits the music,so...

SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 10:11 AM
i don't think hes overrated, just because most people say that he isn't a good drummer.

AND NOW THIS DISCUSSION STOPS!

we'll discuss another topic now...

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 10:17 AM
i don't think hes overrated, just because most people say that he isn't a good drummer.

AND NOW THIS DISCUSSION STOPS!

we'll discuss another topic now...

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SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 10:20 AM
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Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 10:26 AM
Touché

I am just so pissed off with all these "[insertnamehere] is overrated!!!!!!1" discussions particularly in this thread - its for people who like Metallica and the people in it.

Don't come here to say someone "sucks" - sure its your opinion, but take it elsewhere

(Just to add to what Slave said)

SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 10:57 AM
what should we talk about now?

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 11:04 AM
erm....

The musical variety of the loads
Anticipation for the new album
How great Metallica are live
How great Metallica are.

???

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 11:06 AM
Alright whats the best lesser-known Metallica song?

SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 11:06 AM
the musical variety of the loads is good

SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 11:07 AM
the most known song: nothing else matters
the least known song: leper messiah

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 11:08 AM
Or we could just wait for some n00b to come along with one of their "I love metallica my favourite songs are x,y,z" and discuss...

SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 11:12 AM
no. i don't like waiting

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 11:19 AM
Was it you who was trying to win the Metallica tickets a while back?
If so, did you win?

SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 11:20 AM
i don't know. the competition ends in 10 days..

superpeer
05-05-2004, 11:24 AM
I'm seeing them in July.

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 11:25 AM
Ooooh. Where?

SlaveToTheGrind
05-05-2004, 11:26 AM
where? :upset: i'm too slow

superpeer
05-05-2004, 11:27 AM
www.rockwerchter.be

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 11:29 AM
I'm going to try and see them in either Dublin or Paris. Still trying to persuade my best friend to come with me...

Mike the 'Tender
05-05-2004, 12:16 PM
Hi, this is my first (or second, I left my forum account sitting for a long, long time) time posting. I've found some pretty cool/odd Metallica covers, for anyone interested. The first is a group called Apocalyptica, a classically trained string quartet from Finland. In 1996, they released an album called "Plays Metallica by Four Cellos" which has covers of Enter Sandman, Master of Puppets, and Sad but True, as well as five other songs. They have also released two more cover cds, Cult and Inquisition Symphony, which does have a number of Metallica covers, but also has covers of bands such as Pantera and Faith no More. The second weird cover I have found is by the bluegrass group Iron Horse. It's Metallica played in true bluegrass form with acoustic guitar, mandolins and acoustic bass, without drums. It's a pretty interesting experience listening to Metallica's songs in such a fashion.

Steve DeBerg
05-05-2004, 12:45 PM
Hi, this is my first (or second, I left my forum account sitting for a long, long time) time posting. I've found some pretty cool/odd Metallica covers, for anyone interested. The first is a group called Apocalyptica, a classically trained string quartet from Finland. In 1996, they released an album called "Plays Metallica by Four Cellos" which has covers of Enter Sandman, Master of Puppets, and Sad but True, as well as five other songs. They have also released two more cover cds, Cult and Inquisition Symphony, which does have a number of Metallica covers, but also has covers of bands such as Pantera and Faith no More. The second weird cover I have found is by the bluegrass group Iron Horse. It's Metallica played in true bluegrass form with acoustic guitar, mandolins and acoustic bass, without drums. It's a pretty interesting experience listening to Metallica's songs in such a fashion.

yeah the bluegrass stuff us pretty neet. But that's just me, I dig bluegrass.

Mike the 'Tender
05-05-2004, 12:58 PM
Bluegrass is pretty cool, personally (check out Del Curry or Sam Bush), my CD collection ranges from Metallica to BB King, Wagner ([I]Ride of the Valkyries) to Toby Keith and everything in between, but, as I quote one of my friends, "I'm on a different wave length".

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 02:52 PM
I always meant to investigate Apocalyptica, but never got round to it... well nows the time.

livefastdieyoung
05-05-2004, 03:12 PM
www.rockwerchter.be

hey,you do you live in belgium too? :thumb:

gernm17
05-05-2004, 03:39 PM
yeah apocalyptica makes metallica sound really classical it's awesome they play every note perfectly

TheZenBassist
05-05-2004, 03:45 PM
Because you touch yourself at night.

Anyways, I'm seeing Metallica next October (I know, it's quite a ways off, still…), and I'm really looking forward to it. From what I've heard, they put on one hell of a live show.
Wow.... Real original.... A Family Guy quote.... Let me be the first to give you a bravo.... I'd even begin to CONSIDER that an insult if I didn't promptly bring up the fact, in my mind, that you're the one wasting good money to see a no-talent **** band. And... A good show??? You can go see a good show at cineplexodeon and it WON'T cost you whatever the hell you're paying to see metassica live. It won't come with a kick-*** soundtrack nor will your metallica show. I saw Iron Maiden live a couple of months ago... Now THAT is a killer concert. Quality music and quality performance. As for your band..... well.... I'm sorry for you.

Endless Obsession
05-05-2004, 03:54 PM
This is my first message in this thread but i am a huge metallica fan. I am seing them in September in Cleveland. My favorite songs are depending on what mood i am in...fade to black, one, creeping death, master of puppets, sanitarium, seek and destroy, hit the lights, ride the lightning (very underrated), blackened. And why would anyone say that Metallica is crap band if they are gonna post in this. (see last message). See ya.

serte
05-05-2004, 04:04 PM
Wow.... Real original.... A Family Guy quote.... Let me be the first to give you a bravo.... I'd even begin to CONSIDER that an insult if I didn't promptly bring up the fact, in my mind, that you're the one wasting good money to see a no-talent **** band. And... A good show??? You can go see a good show at cineplexodeon and it WON'T cost you whatever the hell you're paying to see metassica live. It won't come with a kick-*** soundtrack nor will your metallica show. I saw Iron Maiden live a couple of months ago... Now THAT is a killer concert. Quality music and quality performance. As for your band..... well.... I'm sorry for you.
and I'm sorry for you too... Go bash on other thread... If you don't like Metallica, you shouldn't read this thread... I don't like Britney Spears nor Eminem, so you won't see me bitching at them on their forums or threads...

I'm a huge Metallica fan since I was 4/5 years old, thanks to my cousins. I'm European and they influeneced me and give me the will to pick up an instrument and play. I play guitar since September (although my first option was bass, I'm still to find out why the hell did I change... I really like bass :P)

Endless Obsession
05-05-2004, 04:06 PM
Good call serte. You proved my point.

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 04:12 PM
Wow.... Real original.... A Family Guy quote.... Let me be the first to give you a bravo.... I'd even begin to CONSIDER that an insult if I didn't promptly bring up the fact, in my mind, that you're the one wasting good money to see a no-talent **** band. And... A good show??? You can go see a good show at cineplexodeon and it WON'T cost you whatever the hell you're paying to see metassica live. It won't come with a kick-*** soundtrack nor will your metallica show. I saw Iron Maiden live a couple of months ago... Now THAT is a killer concert. Quality music and quality performance. As for your band..... well.... I'm sorry for you.

As I and many others have repeatedly said - if you want to bash Metallica - take it elsewhere

TheZenBassist
05-05-2004, 04:13 PM
and I'm sorry for you too... Go bash on other thread... If you don't like Metallica, you shouldn't read this thread... I don't like Britney Spears nor Eminem, so you won't see me bitching at them on their forums or threads...

I'm a huge Metallica fan since I was 4/5 years old, thanks to my cousins. I'm European and they influeneced me and give me the will to pick up an instrument and play. I play guitar since September (although my first option was bass, I'm still to find out why the hell did I change... I really like bass :P)
Well u should. I do. If you think I'm gonna leave you alone because u think I like *** bands just because I know that you do, you are sadly mistaken. How u could think metallica is good is beyond me. You could try to bash my favorite bands on their threads but u wouldn't be able to because they have talent as apposed to other bands whose names I will not mention.... *Metallica. They have little to no rhythm section, terrible guitar and horrible vocals. So let's dedicate an entire thread to them... Hurrah!!! (Sarcasm) Anyways I think thats all I really wanted to say about this **** band. I'll talk to you as soon as you reply to this one. HUTTAH!

TheZenBassist
05-05-2004, 04:14 PM
As I and many others have repeatedly said - if you want to bash Metallica - take it elsewhere
If I took it "elsewhere" noone would care.

Burdcheese
05-05-2004, 04:17 PM
We still don't care. If you continue to post here with your only purpose being to insult bands and other members of the forum, you are on your way to a swift banning of some form.

TheZenBassist
05-05-2004, 04:18 PM
Ooooooh... band from a METALLICA thread Im so worried....

livefastdieyoung
05-05-2004, 04:23 PM
Ooooooh... band from a METALLICA thread Im so worried....

Actually,you would be banned from all forums:).And we all appreciate (well,maybe not all,but whatever :lol: ) you giving your opinion about Metallica,but would you do me one favor.You say Metallica sucks,but that's just your opninion,so would you please say 'i think metallica sucks'.Thanks.Just because you don't like them isn't a reason the rest of the world shouldn't.

fadetoblack03
05-05-2004, 04:32 PM
I love all of Metallica's work, I think everyone of their songs is a classic, that was true until i got to Load and Reload, i love Load barring a couple of songs (i know them by ear not name heheh) and for Reload i love a select few songs but not the rest, then St Anger... I think thats a great album, the no solos thing doesn't bother me, the only real thing that does is the length of the songs, it wouldnt be a problem if they didnt just cut up parts of the song and repeat them to make it longer, in all honesty this album could be like Reign In Blood or Onedice's "Life" for length.

Invisible Kid is the only poor track on there for me.

As a guitarist too, they are or were the main stuff i learn on guitar, its fun to play and Kirks solos are really difficult for a beginner, yet you want to be able to play them so u aspire to it.

Hetfield's voice has gone way downhill nowadays, but i saw this program called Headliners on C4 over here in the UK and his voice was great (it was last year about this time), so why cant he keep it like that?

IMO In Flames are the new Metallica, I just get that impression, they seem to have left their roots and gone on an artistic exploration, while keeping the music really **** good, albeit not as recognised.

Long post lol

I can just imagine Metallica's next album to be an all out metal feast, like bands like Exodus and Anthrax are producing nowadays (Tempo Of The ****ed) and even Slayer, i'm not sure why but I can just see them surprising everyone and absolutely beating the **** out of the current metal industry.

I hope it comes true:d

withoutaname_KsE
05-05-2004, 04:33 PM
metallica sucks

Hitroshimite
05-05-2004, 04:33 PM
Wow.... Real original.... A Family Guy quote.... Let me be the first to give you a bravo.... I'd even begin to CONSIDER that an insult if I didn't promptly bring up the fact, in my mind, that you're the one wasting good money to see a no-talent **** band. And... A good show??? You can go see a good show at cineplexodeon and it WON'T cost you whatever the hell you're paying to see metassica live. It won't come with a kick-*** soundtrack nor will your metallica show. I saw Iron Maiden live a couple of months ago... Now THAT is a killer concert. Quality music and quality performance. As for your band..... well.... I'm sorry for you.

Ah, an Iron Maiden fan.

Well, that explains it.

Endless Obsession
05-05-2004, 05:27 PM
Zen, why would you even come here if you are gonna bash Metallica? Its not like its cool or funny. Just stop.

Mike the 'Tender
05-05-2004, 05:31 PM
I always meant to investigate Apocalyptica, but never got round to it... well nows the time.

They are amazing for the songs they do, and even if you don't like bluegrass, check out the Iron Horse album. They have some grade A musicians doing Metallica's songs, and it's pretty crazy to hear Kirk and James's guitar riffs being played on a acoustic guitar and mandolin. The one thing that I don't like about Fade to Bluegrass is that they use a traditional bluegrass bassline, which is very simplistic, compared to the more complex riffs created by Newstead and Burton.

I've been given a Master of Puppets video by Dream Theater. Anyone know where it's from?

superpeer
05-05-2004, 05:31 PM
I wonder when they're gonna assign a new Rock & Metal moderator. :-/

Mike the 'Tender
05-05-2004, 05:36 PM
rustinpuppets, Amen. withoutaname_KsE needs to be told the same. Well consider this being told.

gernm17
05-06-2004, 12:27 AM
u dont like metallica guess what





























































we do and u r not gonna change that :naughty:

SlaveToTheGrind
05-06-2004, 09:59 AM
our n00bs are here :D

Burdcheese
05-06-2004, 11:19 AM
our n00bs are here :D

I told you - always works

Photophobic
05-06-2004, 12:22 PM
Ah, an Iron Maiden fan.

Well, that explains it.
Nothing wrong with Iron Maiden fans, boyo. :angry:
This person is a knob.

Burdcheese
05-06-2004, 12:46 PM
Agreed

seanwalkington
05-06-2004, 12:54 PM
come on how can you not like metallica
they are impossible to kill
1. load and reload (very underrated)
2. S & M see above
3. St. Anger see above

.............oh and by the way i am not being sarcastic they are great albums

livefastdieyoung
05-06-2004, 01:02 PM
come on how can you not like metallica
they are impossible to kill
1. load and reload (very underrated)
2. S & M see above
3. St. Anger see above

.............oh and by the way i am not being sarcastic they are great albums

That's just the same thing as britney spears fans don't understand you don't like britney's music(i'm not talking about her body,i think she's hot,but whatever).

superpeer
05-06-2004, 01:11 PM
'Opinion'

SonofHetfield
05-06-2004, 01:19 PM
Well u should. I do. If you think I'm gonna leave you alone because u think I like *** bands just because I know that you do, you are sadly mistaken. How u could think metallica is good is beyond me. You could try to bash my favorite bands on their threads but u wouldn't be able to because they have talent as apposed to other bands whose names I will not mention.... *Metallica. They have little to no rhythm section, terrible guitar and horrible vocals. So let's dedicate an entire thread to them... Hurrah!!! (Sarcasm) Anyways I think thats all I really wanted to say about this **** band. I'll talk to you as soon as you reply to this one. HUTTAH!
We are not askin you to leave us alone... we are however asking you to stop humiliating yourself in a thread full of metallijunkies. You seem to have no substance in this argument with which to argue. It seems as though you are just bitching because you know someone will tell you to shutup. I won't be that guy, talk all you want, haha myself and the rest of the Metallica fans will be sitting at our computers going"...hahahaha look at this moron." Everyone needs a good laugh, and if you need a good laugh then you might wanna go read the last few posts you made and pretend like someone said it about Iron Maiden or whoever it is you enoy listening to. Different strokes for different folks right, why don't you just go to some thread with more people like you where you can talk about whatever you want. Metallica FOREVER!!

Burdcheese
05-06-2004, 01:29 PM
Replying to hims not going to do any good - he's banned

UnknowN Doodl3.2
05-06-2004, 02:27 PM
We are not askin you to leave us alone... we are however asking you to stop humiliating yourself in a thread full of metallijunkies. You seem to have no substance in this argument with which to argue. It seems as though you are just bitching because you know someone will tell you to shutup. I won't be that guy, talk all you want, haha myself and the rest of the Metallica fans will be sitting at our computers going"...hahahaha look at this moron." Everyone needs a good laugh, and if you need a good laugh then you might wanna go read the last few posts you made and pretend like someone said it about Iron Maiden or whoever it is you enoy listening to. Different strokes for different folks right, why don't you just go to some thread with more people like you where you can talk about whatever you want. Metallica FOREVER!!

All bow to son of hetfield and Burdcheese
"I am not worthy!"

Burdcheese
05-06-2004, 02:38 PM
How long have I been waiting for someone to say that? :p

Sticki Fingaz
05-06-2004, 04:10 PM
How long have I been waiting for someone to say that? :p
here here! :thumb: im only a new member to the forums but im a big metallica fan, i was at one of their concerts last year, it was amazing to hear songs like creeping death, battery, sanatarium bein played live, metallica rock, has any body listened to their unnamed feeling E.P., it was recored live while they were touring in france?

gernm17
05-06-2004, 07:20 PM
^ the unnamed feeling is one of the best songs in st.anger imo

but like most songs in st.anger it has a good part and a bad part

Hitroshimite
05-06-2004, 07:39 PM
Nothing wrong with Iron Maiden fans, boyo.

I don't have problem with Iron Maiden the band (in fact, I quite like them). It's just that die-hard Maiden fans always remind me of robots. Whenever I mention that I like Metallica, despite the fact that the guys in Maiden are, in my opinion, more musically proficient, they're head explodes. They just can't fathom the possibility that even the drummer is off beat sometimes, the guitarist messes up his own solos live or the vocalist doesn't have a 12 octave vocal range, at the end of the day I'd rather listen to Ride the Lightning than The Number of the Beast. It just doesn’t computer.

Of course, it would be down right ignorant to say that all Iron Maiden fans are like that, it's just that I've met quite a few who seem to have an anti-Metallica agenda. So I tend to stay away.

UnknowN Doodl3.2
05-06-2004, 07:39 PM
^Whats the bad part? Maybe the lenght and the ending. That song would have been so much better if it had ended with a bang.
While I'm at it, my first username has a way bigger post count but if this one gets bigger I'll stay on this one. Man its been almost a 2 weeks since I last visited this thread, besides this afternoon.

EDIT: To germ17

Endless Obsession
05-06-2004, 08:15 PM
Has anyone seen the madly in anger with the world tour yet? If so how was it? I am seeing them in september here in cleveland and i can't wait? can they still rock hard @ss. and how is hetfields voice?

Metallfreak
05-06-2004, 08:19 PM
I like METALLICA alot and i think megadeth is ok but they are way better than Korn or Blink-182.

rock on!!!!!1

Endless Obsession
05-06-2004, 08:22 PM
megadeth's old stuff from like peace sells and rust in peace is awesome.

Wierd-Shadow
05-06-2004, 08:37 PM
OMG! Metallicas comming here in 3 days! w00t! Im so phyced! My 16th birthday is a day after the concert, so going to rock even more!

Hitroshimite
05-06-2004, 08:38 PM
The only Megadeth album I have is their greatest hits (Capital Punishment, I think it's called), but it kicks ***. They do take some getting used to though.

gernm17
05-06-2004, 11:33 PM
^Whats the bad part? Maybe the lenght and the ending. That song would have been so much better if it had ended with a bang.
While I'm at it, my first username has a way bigger post count but if this one gets bigger I'll stay on this one. Man its been almost a 2 weeks since I last visited this thread, besides this afternoon.

EDIT: To germ17

i dont like the intro that much yeah and the ending could've been better too

and that song ASKS for a solo :wave:

sMURFJEW
05-06-2004, 11:57 PM
Its the only song from st. anger i can listen to more than a few times. Yes a solo would fit in perfectley

Jimmerz13
05-07-2004, 12:30 AM
Metallica is one of the greatest bands to ever walk the face of the earth man they just were so good back in the days of such albums of kill em' all which is my favorite album. My favorite song is probably Anethesia (Pulling Teeth) but the new metallica just isnt the same and you all know that they still rock but just its not the same at all.

Scotti912
05-07-2004, 04:04 AM
Why do some people only like the old stuff. I know the obvious answer because of diffrent tastes but is it because your a metal head and just like fast and heavy. Im not bashing so sorry if someone takes it that way. I like some metal but only few bands like Metallica, Black Sabbath, and Megadeth. I listend too Death but I cant stand the vocals. And I really dont like the black clothes and trying to sound evil thing. The bands that I mentioned were writing about the truth.

Also my bands style is going to be Kinda like the sound of Load and mostly Reload.

I know you may be thinkin that this guy is just a n00b and has no musical knowledge but trust me Ive loved music forever and have learnt quite a bit from guitar playing to drums to piano to violin to bass to trumpet and Im self taught in all.

I also love Jetro Tull and Kansas type music.

I listend to Thick as a Brick album all the way through many times a month for those who know it.


Boy, I stray off topic a digress alot

sorry

metal_militia
05-07-2004, 06:03 AM
amen

can someone suggest more songs from metallica that are decent besides

master of puppets
fade to black
the one
enter sandman
the unforgivin

i know there is more, those are just the ones im familiar with:)

My fave songs are:

Metal militia
Jump in the fire
For whom the bell tolls
Creeping death
Battery
Master of puppets
Blackened
Eye of the beholder
My friend of misery
The struggle within
2x4
The house that jack built
Until it sleeps
and many more........

LordDargon
05-07-2004, 07:24 AM
This thread has the single greatest concentration of fanboys in the world.

If you think metallica is the best band even to walk the face of the earth, just check out some more thrash. In the end, you'll thank me. I used to think that, but after listening to extreme metal a while, I realized how wrong it was.

Happy thrashing \m/

ToolOwnz
05-07-2004, 07:42 AM
This thread has the single greatest concentration of fanboys in the world.

If you think metallica is the best band even to walk the face of the earth, just check out some more thrash. In the end, you'll thank me. I used to think that, but after listening to extreme metal a while, I realized how wrong it was.

Happy thrashing \m/

Metallica was the best thrash I ever heard. Everything else, was pretty much a copy of metallica. I dont listen to them too much anymore, but they still hold a good place in my heart. I grew up on all the old stuff. My brother remembers me blasting Orion constantly when he was like 8yrs old. (hes a badass drummer now, go figure....) Dont get me wrong, Megadeth and anthrax all kicked ***, but no one did it like metallica, the same way no one did theyre genre like Pantera. They are the Final Authority.
BTW I think my fav metallica song is that One B-side cover, the Prince.

extreme metal, death, that **** is just to, well extreme. Theres no dynamic whatsoever. thats what was so good about metallica, especially on Lightning, master and justice. Great dynamic movement. chillin parts, slammin parts, and all in between. And Im sorry to anyone that thinks otherwise, you cant get any more extreme, or a$$kicking, than Dyers eve, period. All other wannabe metal styles bow down to Justice.

The only "death" style band i appreciate, is Opeth, Why? Dynamics.

just to list my favs and get it overwith.

Anesthesia
Four Horsemen
Blitzkreig

Ride the Lightning
For Whom The Bell Tolls
Trapped Under ice
Call Of cthulu

Battery
Sanitarium
Disposable Heroes
Orion
Damage Inc.

The Eye Of the Beholder
The Shortest Straw
yea yea One.
Dyers Eve
To Live is to Die

Helpless
Crash Course In Brain Surgery
The wait
The small Hours
The Prince

My Friend Of Misery
Outlaw Torn
The God That Failed

SlaveToTheGrind
05-07-2004, 09:12 AM
This thread has the single greatest concentration of fanboys in the world.

If you think metallica is the best band even to walk the face of the earth, just check out some more thrash. In the end, you'll thank me. I used to think that, but after listening to extreme metal a while, I realized how wrong it was.

Happy thrashing \m/
he's right. go and check out the good stuff ;)

SlaveToTheGrind
05-07-2004, 09:47 AM
has anyone here heard some mistakes on s&m?

Metallicat
05-07-2004, 09:55 AM
he's right. go and check out the good stuff ;)

I've listened to other thrash. I don't care that much for thrash. I listen to music for the music, not just because it's thrash or some genre in general. I didn't start liking Metallica because they were thrash. The first cd I picked up by them was Load.

So now you know where I stand. Chances are what you call good stuff I would not consider it that great at all. It's called taste in music.

LordDargon
05-07-2004, 10:25 AM
ToolOwnz - By "extreme metal" I meatn Thrash, Black, Death and Grind/Gore. Yes thrash is extreme enough to be extreme metal. Anyways pretty much all other thrash bands thrash harder than metallica - metallica hardly did any thrash songs. Dyers Eve was one of the thrash songs they did do. But it is nowhere near as brutal as about 100% of death metal and 95% of thrash metal. Check out Dark Angel, Exhorder, of course Slayer, Sodom, and early Kreator for some really brutal thrash.

BTW If you like Orion, then thrash is probably not your style anyways. Orion is a fuc.king mellow song.

/me gets flamed to death by all fanboys

superpeer
05-07-2004, 10:43 AM
^ Kill 'em all is quite thrashy as well.

And some of ride the lightning.

sacrifice93.2
05-07-2004, 10:44 AM
I've listened to other thrash. I don't care that much for thrash. I listen to music for the music, not just because it's thrash or some genre in general.


Neither do the Titans you dumb f*cking fanboy. Old Metallica was great, but they suck now. Get over it. They're not brutal, they're not as heavy as they used to be, and they've aged greatly and show it. I waved bye-bye to the chance of Metallica ever making another great album after Reload was released, and don't tell me anything after Justice was great you tone deaf nimrod.

Here's to all those who fight against the sellouts. :chug:
\m/:evil:\m/ True Metal forever.

superpeer
05-07-2004, 10:54 AM
and don't tell me anything after Justice was great you tone deaf nimrod.

Here's to all those who fight against the sellouts. :chug:
\m/:evil:\m/ True Metal forever.

Thank you for defining our taste. :rolleyes:

Photophobic
05-07-2004, 10:57 AM
^^Why are you here?

EDIT:to sacrafice

LordDargon
05-07-2004, 11:19 AM
Because I posted about this in the titans.

"Watch out! Fanboy attack!"

heh.

Burdcheese
05-07-2004, 11:27 AM
It wasn't aimed at you 'Dragon twas aimed at the narrow-minded fool.

We're all Metallica fans - hence we have this thread - but that doesn't mean we don't like other things too.

Photophobic
05-07-2004, 11:34 AM
I thought the whole point of this thread was to keep the 'Tallica nuts away from the rest of the forum. It really pisses me off when people come in here looking for a fight. :angry:

LordDargon
05-07-2004, 12:00 PM
I'm just trying to enlighten a few poor lost souls :)

Metallica is one of the greatest bands to ever walk the face of the earth man they just were so good
Metallica was the best thrash I ever heard.
And Im sorry to anyone that thinks otherwise, you cant get any more extreme, or a$$kicking, than Dyers eve, period. All other wannabe metal styles bow down to Justice.

Photophobic
05-07-2004, 12:24 PM
Good point lord D

Burdcheese
05-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Ah! n00b enlightenment... fair enough Lord D.

Keep up the good work :thumb:

bball_1523
05-07-2004, 03:12 PM
I'm just trying to enlighten a few poor lost souls :)


two words: Who cares

music is whatever we want it to be. If those fans think metallica is the greatest then let them. Don't let it get to you, it's not like their opinions are gonna drop kick you.

That Kid
05-07-2004, 05:10 PM
im going to actually post something that isn't flaming someone, trying to tell everyone that there's better music than metallica, or say that they're the poop.

does anybody know what kirk uses for the soft solo in my friend of misery? is it a wah or volume pedal...or it could be neither-im dumb

withoutaname_KsE
05-07-2004, 05:16 PM
metallica sucks
wah

MetallicA_MaN
05-07-2004, 05:17 PM
Sounds like its just a wah to me.

MetallicA_MaN
05-07-2004, 05:18 PM
MetallicA does not suck...

withoutaname_KsE
05-07-2004, 05:19 PM
sorry my lil bro is a prick that was him...

UnknowN Doodl3.2
05-07-2004, 05:20 PM
metallica sucks
wah

sucks who?

MetallicA_MaN
05-07-2004, 05:20 PM
Ok, You had me worried for a second. :)

MetallicA_MaN
05-07-2004, 05:21 PM
Im learning to play "seek n Destroy" today. Awesome song. :D

withoutaname_KsE
05-07-2004, 05:22 PM
wah as in a wah peddle my lil bro said metallica sucks

MetallicA_MaN
05-07-2004, 05:22 PM
I'll catch you guys later, Im out.

That Kid
05-07-2004, 05:36 PM
alright thanks. does anybody know where i could get a tab of that solo?

serte
05-07-2004, 06:09 PM
If you're talking about the part when you can hear just the bass and Kirk's guitar, it's a Volume Pedal. I think it is, because in Cunning Stunts, he and Jason play the same thing and I read a chat in which Kirk said that in Cunning Stunts he used a Volume Pedal...

NailHead
05-07-2004, 08:45 PM
What is Hammet's best solo, I've got a band concert coming up in a few months and I'm the lead guitarist, so I want to pay my tributary to Hammet with a wicked solo, but I can't find one that's hella fast and like, euber cool. Help me out here guys, come on.

That Kid
05-07-2004, 09:29 PM
ive always liked the call of ktulu solo, but im not sure if hammett wrote it...it could've been dave mustaine because he wrote some of the song.

also, if you do choose that solo, don't use wah at the end like kirk does on S&M, it ruins it

ToolOwnz
05-07-2004, 09:30 PM
ToolOwnz - By "extreme metal" I meatn Thrash, Black, Death and Grind/Gore. Yes thrash is extreme enough to be extreme metal. Anyways pretty much all other thrash bands thrash harder than metallica - metallica hardly did any thrash songs. Dyers Eve was one of the thrash songs they did do. But it is nowhere near as brutal as about 100% of death metal and 95% of thrash metal. Check out Dark Angel, Exhorder, of course Slayer, Sodom, and early Kreator for some really brutal thrash.

BTW If you like Orion, then thrash is probably not your style anyways. Orion is a fuc.king mellow song.

/me gets flamed to death by all fanboys

I agree about orion.. But woudnt you say Damage, Battery, Leper Messiah are thrash? I think so..Im a Huge Slayer fan, so I can relate to thrash. But my point about dyers eve wasnt to compare types of genres, I meant extreme as just an adjective. I find most other metal bands to be sub par and generally imitating Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax and Megadeth. I don't enjoy listening to music that is only 'brutal'. Slayer can be at times, but they also had things to say about issues, esp on South of Heaven, and Seasons, the 2 albums I listen to the most, (although I enjoy some of reign in blood and decade as well). Every other brutal metal band out there (except for Opeth, that Ive seen) only sings about necrophelia, etc.. i mean come on that **** is for kids...I know its all gimmicky but i hate gimmicks. A lot of what seperates the music I listen to from the music I wont are the lyrics. I personally dont understand why anyone in their right mind could listen to something like cannibal corpse. The music aside, the lryics sound like they are written by a depressed high schooler. When I was introduced to opeth I was like, great another death band that wants to **** dead corpses. but after listening to them (Ive only heard blackwater park, ) I was impressed by them. They use death vocals, which I dont care for, but he uses them dynamically, along with his great singing voice that offsets it and sets a great mood. Besides that the music is far better than anything ive ever heard from any "deathy" band..Which brings me back to Metallica, His lyrics had substance, and passion, something I did not hear from other metal, besides the ones I quoted.

Bodies fill the feilds I see, hungry heroes end,
No one to play soldier now, no one to pretend
Running blind through killing fields, bred to kill them all,
Victim of what said should be, servent til I fall.
Soldier boy made of clay now an empty shell,
21, only son, but he served us well,
Bred to kill, not to care, do just as we say,
Finished here greetings death, hes yours to take away
barking of machine gun fire does nothing to me now,
sounding of the clock that ticks, get used to it somehow
More a man more stripes you wear, glory seeker trends
Bodies fill the fields I see the slaughter never ends.

I do not hear any other extreme metal bands writing lyrics this good.

Guts and blood, bones are broken
As they eat your pancreas
Human liver, for their diner
Or maybe soup with eyes
Cause of death, still unknown
Gnawing meat, from your bones
Bone saw binding in your skull
Brains are oozing a human stump
Needles injected, through your eyes
Puiling off flesh, skinned alive

^^cannibal corpse lyrics, like i said, depressed high schooler prolly wrote these on a bathroom wall somewhere, LAME....

ToolOwnz
05-07-2004, 09:33 PM
im going to actually post something that isn't flaming someone, trying to tell everyone that there's better music than metallica, or say that they're the poop.

does anybody know what kirk uses for the soft solo in my friend of misery? is it a wah or volume pedal...or it could be neither-im dumb
I would assume that its a volume pedal, although u could probably imitate it with your volume knob (if u dont have a noisy pot), and im not sure whether thats kirk or james, I know james likes to do the occasional solo or 2, (he plays with kirk on the harmony solo, my favorite solo on the record, only becuase i dont like any other song on the record :( )

gernm17
05-07-2004, 10:23 PM
^ yeah is just the volume knob


and yeah metallica has some sick lyrics in all of master of puppets and ajfa

UnknowN Doodl3.2
05-08-2004, 09:49 AM
Blackened is cool to sing when your alone. and don't have your guitar with you. The best way I've ever heard to explain the end of the world as we know it.

Squirrel
05-08-2004, 10:07 AM
On My Friend of Misery my tab book says... "Swell with volume knob using right hand pinky". So yes, it's just volume swelling. Using both a knob or pedal will do fine methinks.

MetallicA_MaN
05-08-2004, 02:49 PM
I got a Washburn Maverick Series Guitar a week ago, I've been trying to play some MetallicA, So far all I can play is the intro to sandman, Intro to one and the intro to Seek n Destroy. I get so discouraged my fingers wont go!..

Bon_Appetit
05-08-2004, 07:01 PM
metallica are great.. (old metallica now) Orion, master of puppets, for whom the bell tolls, creeping death are absoultly amazing

Bon_Appetit
05-08-2004, 07:10 PM
metallica are great.. (old metallica now) Orion, master of puppets, for whom the bell tolls, creeping death are absoultly amazing

freelancerf12
05-08-2004, 10:56 PM
I've been playing guitar for about 2 months, and i am absoloutely in love with Metallica. Enter Sandman changed my life, i learned to play most of it after I printed off the 14 page tab. >>still cant play solo, ugh<< stupid wah pedals and fast fingers that i dont have. get a new amp soon though so

medea
05-08-2004, 11:41 PM
I just saw Metallica last night in concert. They were awesome! Kirk Hammet was going nuts with the guitar, and Lars was insane. I don't like the new bassist though. I think anyone who puts down their guitar in the middle of a song isn't that good.

sMURFJEW
05-09-2004, 12:19 AM
yea, i dont like the new bassist either, he is scary looking. He doesnt fit in at all

ghettoeddo
05-09-2004, 12:26 AM
rob trujillo..? wasn't he the bassist for ozzy? him and jason switched places ironically. or so i hear.

someone else confirm!

sMURFJEW
05-09-2004, 12:34 AM
Yes it is true. I liked Jason more than the new guy. BUt of course cliff was obviously the best

bball_1523
05-09-2004, 01:07 AM
I wanna see Trujillo perform some bass solos and put more personal effort into Metallica, then I'll consider him a good fit into Metallica.

Wierd-Shadow
05-09-2004, 02:52 AM
W00T! GOING TO METALLICA....well....16 HOURS!

Im probly gonna stay out of the mosh....hehehe.....so excited! \m/

Photophobic
05-09-2004, 04:12 AM
^^You people make mesick :upset:

I wish I could be in a Metallica mosh.

Facsimile
05-09-2004, 04:19 AM
I wanna see Trujillo perform some bass solos and put more personal effort into Metallica, then I'll consider him a good fit into Metallica.
He did a bass solo at the Auckland Big Day Out. I can't remember it that well, but it was good I think. I agree, I can't wait until the next Met album so we can see how good his writing goes with them.

Squirrel
05-09-2004, 04:45 AM
Trujillo did a bass solo when i saw them :thumb:

Photophobic
05-09-2004, 04:51 AM
He did when I saw them too, just before For Whom The Bell Tolls. It rocked.

Squirrel
05-09-2004, 09:24 AM
Back to the front page with thee,

*bump*

DisposableHeroes
05-09-2004, 09:28 AM
have the band ever played disposable heroes live? I cant seem to find a recording of it on the metMP3 site.

Squirrel
05-09-2004, 09:34 AM
They have but i think it was only a handful of times - strange considering its better than a lot of songs thye play reguarly like Fuel etc

Burdcheese
05-09-2004, 09:36 AM
Yeah - but its much longer though

DisposableHeroes
05-09-2004, 09:37 AM
they do play long sets so i suppose it would be tiring to have too may long songs, especially at the speed some are played

Burdcheese
05-09-2004, 09:40 AM
Its the same reason why most of the songs from AJFA aren't played live very often

DisposableHeroes
05-09-2004, 09:42 AM
its a pity but also a good thing because they put a lot of energy into their shows and you wouldn't want it to get drained out after a few songs

Burdcheese
05-09-2004, 09:47 AM
Very True. I can (just) cope with never hearing To Live Is To Die live ( :upset: )

DisposableHeroes
05-09-2004, 09:49 AM
they used to play bits of it and orion with jason as a tribute, its a shame they never played to live is to die and orion fully. That bass solo still makes me all tearful

superpeer
05-09-2004, 12:59 PM
Its the same reason why most of the songs from AJFA aren't played live very often

Except 'One'. :)

Echleon
05-09-2004, 01:01 PM
hi, does anyone hav a copy of the Metallica cover of stairway to heaven, if so can u post the file here plz

Burdcheese
05-09-2004, 01:02 PM
I meant songs like TLITD, ...AJFA and The Frayed ends of sanity.
They still play some stuff from the album; Blackened, One and (now) Dyers Eve.

superpeer
05-09-2004, 01:06 PM
hi, does anyone hav a copy of the Metallica cover of stairway to heaven, if so can u post the file here plz

I don't think they ever covered that.

Echleon
05-09-2004, 01:08 PM
they did cover it, it sed on the cover of a guitar magazine i got

UnknowN Doodl3.2
05-09-2004, 01:12 PM
Very True. I can (just) cope with never hearing To Live Is To Die live ( :upset: )

I can just see it now. Jmaes starts the intro acoustic part with sll lights on him and then theirs this big explosion of lights when you haer that first powerchord of the main riff. Then rob does his crabwalk during the galloping parts. Later when we reach the emotional slow part a screen unfolds behind the band(don't know how though with the 360 degree stage thing) showing old pictures of cliff and the band...

gernm17
05-09-2004, 01:39 PM
Except 'One'. :)

they used to play ajfa completely back in the justice days, and also eye of the beholder, and of course one and harvester of sorrow and blackened, and a little bit of to live is to die

i've never heard the frayed ends of sanity fully played, and i've never heard the shortest straw at all live

sMURFJEW
05-09-2004, 04:39 PM
At www.LAUnCH.com there is a video of them playing And justice for all (the song)

xtreme_skatah
05-10-2004, 12:26 AM
When Kirk plays his solos. does he use down stroke mostly or does he alternate pick it?

gernm17
05-10-2004, 12:30 AM
^ he alternates

Zmev
05-10-2004, 12:49 AM
I have a bootleg Cd of them playing AJFA, but only half of it

*remembers*

hey gernm17, you live in RWC right?

gernm17
05-10-2004, 12:52 AM
^ yes how do u know hehe

i have a friend who has an old tape with metallica 1989 and they play the whole song ajfa and they play all their cool **** except for some songs in ajfa

gernm17
05-10-2004, 12:55 AM
i'm sorry man i never went back to classifieds i left u my aim and msn in there just a moment ago

Photophobic
05-10-2004, 04:36 AM
Don't they often play parts of long songs in medleys?

DimebagDarrell
05-10-2004, 06:43 AM
Don't they often play parts of long songs in medleys?

on live **** album they do a ajfa medley involving blackened shortest straw and others

DisposableHeroes
05-10-2004, 10:15 AM
the live sh*t binge and purge DVD rocks, you get all these cool little extras

Burdcheese
05-10-2004, 11:16 AM
I'd get it if I weren't so poor :upset:

Photophobic
05-10-2004, 11:31 AM
^^I'd get it if I weren't so poor, and if I didn't want to buy at least one of their albums first.

superpeer
05-10-2004, 12:40 PM
^^I'd get it if I weren't so poor, and if I didn't want to buy at least one of their albums first.


You don't own any Metallica Albums? :eek:

Burdcheese
05-10-2004, 01:26 PM
You don't own any Metallica Albums? :eek:

I was going to say the same thing myself, but couldn't believe it could possibly be true...:p

Mike the 'Tender
05-10-2004, 03:55 PM
^^I'd get it if I weren't so poor, and if I didn't want to buy at least one of their albums first.

What's your preference? Pre or Post Black Album? Personally I like both eras.

Mike the 'Tender
05-10-2004, 03:58 PM
I said this in a one of my last posts, but never got any response...Dream Theatre does a cover of Master of Puppets. I don't think it's anywhere near as good as the original (Dream Theatre is missing one guitar though), but could anyone tell me where it's from?

Hitroshimite
05-10-2004, 04:07 PM
If I'm not mistaken, DT released a live album (bootleg?) that was them playing all of Master of Puppets (the entire album) live.

Squirrel
05-10-2004, 04:09 PM
^ true, they also encored with the entire number of the Beast album.

Burdcheese
05-10-2004, 04:11 PM
There's a video of some of it. I found it in the guitar forums a while back (do a search for Petrucci and Master of Puppets)

Its pretty good except the singing - LaBrie normally has a good voice, but not there.

Mike the 'Tender
05-10-2004, 04:15 PM
Thanks

Mine's a video of Dream Theatre in concert, a friend downloaded it off of Kazaa. I'd expect that someone probably taped one of their Number of the Beast concerts or something (I'm not too familiar with Dream Theatre).

I love checking out Metallica covers cause some are really good, some are awful and some are just plain odd...

TheGreatOne
05-10-2004, 06:43 PM
I love the song Am I evil. Do they ever play it live, i havnt seen any live am i evil songs.

GorbAcheV
05-10-2004, 07:14 PM
They play Am I Evil live on Cunning Stunts.

TheGreatOne
05-10-2004, 09:36 PM
REALLY?? they do? I better check it out

gernm17
05-11-2004, 01:27 AM
on live **** album they do a ajfa medley involving blackened shortest straw and others


really? i really wanna get live **** i downloaded an ajfa medley from some website and it began with eye of the beholder, then a little bit of the frayed ends of sanity, then the middle part of blackened, then like 3 mins of ajfa(2 verses i think), then back to blackened and that was it i think

Photophobic
05-11-2004, 04:51 AM
You don't own any Metallica Albums? :eek:

I was going to say the same thing myself, but couldn't believe it could possibly be true... :p

Is that so hard to believe?

What's your preference? Pre or Post Black Album? Personally I like both eras.

I love all their stuff (including St.Anger) but I'm going to start with Ride the Lightening.

MetalliFanChris
05-11-2004, 05:51 AM
I love the song Am I evil. Do they ever play it live, i havnt seen any live am i evil songs.


Dude, check out www.livemetllica.com. You can download all their new shows and they play some old covers and Am I Evil once or twice! Its worth the money.

Has anyone else been to this site and downloaded any shows? My Favorite show was the first one in Calgary. Its great to hear Dyers Eve live, too bad James can't remember the words and Lars can't play the double bass the same. They are getting old, so I understand why they can't play the same as in the '80s. Kirk can still play fast as hell tho! :evil: undefinedred

superpeer
05-11-2004, 10:49 AM
Is that so hard to believe?



I love all their stuff (including St.Anger) but I'm going to start with Ride the Lightening.

Yeah, since you're such a regular in this thread.

Ride the lightning is their best, true that.

SlaveToTheGrind
05-11-2004, 11:43 AM
you're the guy that always says that's matter of 'opinion' :) i like kill em all most :)

superpeer
05-11-2004, 11:46 AM
Well yeah, I should've said, I think RTL is their best. :p

But that was pretty obvious.

SlaveToTheGrind
05-11-2004, 11:52 AM
Dude, check out www.livemetllica.com. You can download all their new shows and they play some old covers and Am I Evil once or twice! Its worth the money.

Kirk can still play fast as hell tho! :evil: undefinedred
http://www.metmp3.com

no he can't. have you ever watched or listened the rock am ring concert? he played so many mistakes. even in the last one solo

Dr CoD
05-11-2004, 02:41 PM
I wish I could see Metallica a few years ago. Im only 16, never had the chance, and don't really fancy seeing them now. So not fair =( Being able to watch enter sandman or orion live would be so great. Why couldnt my parents have ****ed a few years before =(

Dr CoD
05-11-2004, 02:41 PM
I wish I could see Metallica a few years ago. Im only 16, never had the chance, and don't really fancy seeing them now. So not fair =( Being able to watch enter sandman or orion live would be so great. Why couldnt my parents have ****ed a few years before =(

gernm17
05-11-2004, 05:33 PM
has anyone heard the original intro for blackened? i downloaded off a website and it's very cool, i hear the other intro is just the original backwards, i wonder why they did that

ToolOwnz
05-11-2004, 05:56 PM
sigh, ive seen metallica once. During the second or third leg of the long *** black tour(92 i think). It was the same stage setup as binge and purge. I got right up to the ****ing front thanks to a friend of mines cousin who was like 8 foot 500 pounds. they opened with sandman, then creeping death (as par for the course) They played the 'justice medley', and blackened, and one, master, battery, sanitarium, fade to black, seek and destroy, god im having trouble remembering, a bunch of stuff from the black album, the bass solo was based on my friend of misery, i think they did the damage/am I evil medley (like cliff em all) god i know they played tons more plus 2 f*cking encores. kick *** show, and they all still had long hair except for jason, who had just cut his off. I'll probably never see them again, so it was cool i got to before its too late. the only songs i wanted to see they didnt play. (orion, i kinda figured, and dyers eve)

if your looking for the DT bootleg you can order form DT's site. its the whole MoP recorded live.

gernm17
05-11-2004, 07:46 PM
http://metallica.mirrors.nuqe.net/Misc/Blackened%20-unreversed%20intro-.mp3

here it is the original intro for blackened tell me ur opinions people

Hitroshimite
05-11-2004, 07:50 PM
That was pretty cool :thumb:

gernm17
05-11-2004, 07:54 PM
i know isnt it? i really like it but the other one is awesome as well

I love You
05-11-2004, 08:14 PM
i like the one on the Cd better

Photophobic
05-12-2004, 04:06 AM
Yeah, since you're such a regular in this thread.

Ride the lightning is their best, true that.

Meh, I have a pretty extensive knowledge of their music (considering I don't own any albums that is). And I hope to get some soon. But it's like I'm torn between my two loves: Maiden and Metallica.

Zmev
05-12-2004, 04:10 AM
http://metallica.mirrors.nuqe.net/M...ed%20intro-.mp3

That site pwns for bootlegged downloads

Photophobic
05-12-2004, 04:29 AM
I just watched the skom promo vid. Lars Ulrich's best ever quote: "I just feel so...disresected."

And the shot of Kirk slapping his forhead when they're arguing is priceless :D

ToolOwnz
05-12-2004, 04:34 AM
i like the one on the Cd better

its not like its a 'demo' version of the original, thats just what they played for the intro, someone just took the beginning of blackened and put it in their wave editor and reversed the wave file. it is cool to hear though :thumb:

superpeer
05-12-2004, 08:19 AM
http://metallica.mirrors.nuqe.net/Misc/Blackened%20-unreversed%20intro-.mp3

here it is the original intro for blackened tell me ur opinions people

That's pretty cool. :)

Fraggy
05-12-2004, 08:44 AM
i like that better than the real blackened intro!

Photophobic
05-12-2004, 09:01 AM
^It was pretty cool

DisposableHeroes
05-12-2004, 09:42 AM
does any one here own cliff em all?

Po0sH
05-12-2004, 10:12 AM
http://metallica.mirrors.nuqe.net/Misc/Blackened%20-unreversed%20intro-.mp3

here it is the original intro for blackened tell me ur opinions people


thats so coool. then to hear it play backwards like on media player its like.the intro for actual blackened :lol:

superpeer
05-12-2004, 10:17 AM
Yeah, you figured out the concept of reversing.

LordDargon
05-12-2004, 10:38 AM
I did that years ago on ACID or something (reversed blackened so that it would play normally)

PS: Photo- get your as.s over to the titans thread and we will load you up with great thrash :)

Jon
05-12-2004, 11:39 AM
I prefer the real one.

Photophobic
05-12-2004, 11:41 AM
I did that years ago on ACID or something (reversed blackened so that it would play normally)

PS: Photo- get your as.s over to the titans thread and we will load you up with great thrash :)

I would go there, but I fear of people eating me alive :(

James' Sandman
05-12-2004, 11:45 AM
I'm very new so I didn't read all posts. Maybe it was already answered, but what do you think about "Orion"?

superpeer
05-12-2004, 11:47 AM
It's pretty good. :p

Photophobic
05-12-2004, 11:54 AM
Never heard it.

Kickflip_Burrito
05-12-2004, 01:56 PM
Has anyone been on LiveMetallica.com recently? they have started playing a song I have never seen before called 'Melbourne'. Does anyone know anything about this mysterious song?

soundcheckxx
05-12-2004, 02:08 PM
I saw that too....what is it....I may buy one of the concerts just to hear it.

sacrifice93.2
05-12-2004, 02:19 PM
Metallica was the best thrash I ever heard. Everything else, was pretty much a copy of metallica.

OH MY F*CKING GOD! The best thrash ever? Everyone is a copy of Metallica? You dumb f*cker. Let me begin to tear into your flesh.

1)Last time I checked, Kirk Hammett couldn't play even half as fast as Kerry King, Marty Friedman, Dan Spitz, Jeff Hanneman, or anyone from Dark Angel, Testament, or Exodus.
2)Metallica are good thrash, not GREAT thrash. Anyone who knows the Thrash genre well know that our genre was defined by those with a great loyalty to the thrash underground. These bands still love their original fanbase, and haven't stabbed the thrashers in the back. These bands include Anthrax, Megadeth, Slayer, Exodus, Testament, Dark Angel, Kreator, and almost every other Thrash band except for Metallica.
3)Metallica isn't a thrash band anymore. They've turned Mallcore, and I hate them for it. They still sound good live, but only when the older stuff is played. If I met James or Lars in person, I would jusk ask them why they did it. Because of fanboys such as yourself, great albums went unnoticed because of the wait for St. Anger, which was the biggest dissapointment in metal history since Halford left Judas Priest. The albums unnoticed: The World Needs a Hero, We've Come For You All, God Hates Us All, and many more.

Need I explain more? Oh, for the TRUE thrashers, feel free to put in anything that I missed.

superpeer
05-12-2004, 02:27 PM
Allow me to point out your flaws

1)Last time I checked, Kirk Hammett couldn't play even half as fast as Kerry King, Marty Friedman, Dan Spitz, Jeff Hanneman, or anyone from Dark Angel, Testament, or Exodus.

Last time I checked, making good music had nothing to do with making good music, thrash or not.

2)Metallica are good thrash, not GREAT thrash.

Come on, man, you have to be joking, how are you gonna define what is good and what is bad? Appreciating music is very subjective.

And the fact that they're not making thrash anymore doesn't mean metallica is bad nor does it mean that their old stuff isn't thrash anymore.

Hating a band for evolving, whether this means the good or the right way and that is just everyone's opinion, is just stupid.

sacrifice93.2
05-12-2004, 02:31 PM
Hating a band for evolving, whether this means the good or the right way and that is just everyone's opinion, is just stupid.

You're a cool dude superpeer, so I won't flame you, but I would enjoy an explanation of how Metallica has evolved after the Black Album's release.

To all fanboys: I would like SUPERPEER to explain this to me, because I trust him.

DisposableHeroes
05-12-2004, 02:34 PM
i agree with you there sacrifice, that metallica aren't thrash anymore(and the other things listed). I wouldn't say they turned mallcore, they just tried different things and it kinda turned out bad.

superpeer
05-12-2004, 02:36 PM
Uh, I think it's pretty obvious, the Black album was a great heavy metal album, not thrash, heavy metal or modern rock, if you prefer that.

St. Anger is on the edge of nu metal, they adapted another tuning, they ditched the solos, So I'd say they've evolved. Like I said, evolving isn't always a good thing.

In some cases it can lead to awful mutations, like St. anger. (I'm being a bit harsh on the album, it's not that bad, but I'm just making a point here)

DisposableHeroes
05-12-2004, 02:41 PM
i do like the black album, just not such a big fan of the load era. I guess when you think about it its not what everyone else wants metallica to play, but more what metallica themselves want to play.

soundcheckxx
05-12-2004, 03:02 PM
my number one rule is stay true to yourself...if people dig your music great ....if not screw them.....

LordDargon
05-12-2004, 03:13 PM
I would go there, but I fear of people eating me alive :(

HAHA... we are nice people :)


...really!


*eats a metallica fanboy*

PS: About Orion... too mellow, too little riffs.

PPS:
Last time I checked, making good music had nothing to do with making good music, thrash or not.

Heh, type much? ;)

If you meant to say "playing fast had nothing to do with good music, thrash or not" well actually, the point of thrash was actually to play as fast, loud and aggressivly as possible. And don't question my philosifies (sp) on thrash.

superpeer
05-12-2004, 03:14 PM
So the fastest thrash song is by definition the best thrash song ever? :p

LordDargon
05-12-2004, 03:29 PM
Close enough. Also, Darkness Descends is the fastest thrash album ever. Guess what, it's also the best! Ding ding, you suck at thrash! Please get on soulseek and browse my extensive thrash collection of - oh wait, I don't have that much :p

superpeer
05-12-2004, 03:31 PM
I don't know, I don't judge music by speed, After all, I like doom metal. :p

EDIT : 3,666th post. :evil:

EDIT 2 : what's your name on soulseek?

LordDargon
05-12-2004, 03:34 PM
Same as here. I'm not on right now, but you're always online on MX. So tomorrow when I have a few minutes i'll post a thread alerting you to get the fuc.k on slsk.

Ps: I have you added as Superpeer, is the capitalization alright there?

superpeer
05-12-2004, 04:01 PM
Yeps, so it seems.

Doesn'tMatter
05-13-2004, 07:50 AM
I don't know, I don't judge music by speed, After all, I like doom metal. :p

EDIT : 3,666th post. :evil:

EDIT 2 : what's your name on soulseek?

Yeah same here. Speed < quality. The thrash of Metallica is great, if it's faster, it gets annoying.

SlaveToTheGrind
05-13-2004, 08:10 AM
no speed > quality :evil:
















'opinion' :p

sacrifice93.2
05-13-2004, 10:21 AM
I prefer speed with technicality, which is why I like Anthrax and Megadeth so much, and why South of Heaven is my favorite Slayer album.

LordDargon
05-13-2004, 10:24 AM
south of heaven has no speed whatsoever... the title track is like 60 bpm or something!

Photophobic
05-13-2004, 10:33 AM
I heard a good theory as to why there are no guitar solos on St.Anger:
"Kirk couldn't be bothered to work out all his scales for drop C"

LordDargon
05-13-2004, 10:35 AM
I heard another one - solos aren't marketable. Fuc.k Bob Rock.

SlaveToTheGrind
05-13-2004, 10:37 AM
according to the german metal hammer the reason why on st anger are no solos is that they wanted that st anger sounds like a few guys that sit together and make music or something like that.. :confused:

EDIT: to lorddragon. but bob rock has produced load and reload too, hasn't he? and on load and reload are solos too :)

Photophobic
05-13-2004, 11:00 AM
^^Probably because at the time they were marketable.

SlaveToTheGrind
05-13-2004, 11:04 AM
metallica have always been marketable. and they will always be marketable with or without solos

Photophobic
05-13-2004, 11:11 AM
Not necessarily. They lost a lot of fans over Napster, then a load more over St.Anger. If thye come out with an outstanding album, and they get their fans back, then they will be marketable for ever. It all kinda hangs in the balance at the moment.

SlaveToTheGrind
05-13-2004, 11:19 AM
why have the lost a lot of fans over napster? but i know so much pop bitches that don't listen do metal but they like st anger. i don't know why but that's true.

EDIT. and i also know more metallica fans that like st anger than metallica fans that say that album is sh.it

superpeer
05-13-2004, 11:29 AM
They lost fans over napster, because everyone accused them of being 'sell outs'.

Photophobic
05-13-2004, 12:29 PM
I know one Metallica fan who like St.Anger, and none who hate it. But the prevailing opinion on these boards is that it was bad.

Burdcheese
05-13-2004, 02:59 PM
I know a fair number of people who got into Metallica (and their old stuff) because of St. Anger.

Since I'm listening to it right now i'll add that:
Its not that bad
It does get a bit repetitive - and the songs are too long based upon this - needs more variety (solos :p) and the lyrics are really nothing special

Only 9 more to go...

superpeer
05-13-2004, 03:12 PM
And like half of those 3000 posts are mine. :p

Burdcheese
05-13-2004, 03:50 PM
I'm half expecting the elusive 'Spiral to emerge at any point now...

Kickflip_Burrito
05-13-2004, 05:32 PM
Does anybody else know anything about the new song called 'Melbourne' ? its on LiveMetallica.com and they have used it a couple of times now, sorry to ask again but i kinda got faded with the whole thrash bands argument.

pennyroyaltea10
05-13-2004, 05:32 PM
MetallicA rox :wave: :thumb:

Stormrider33
05-13-2004, 09:45 PM
Whos better Kirk or James... Personnaly i say James. Because he is a master at palmmuted downstrokes and because he has a good metal voice at the same time. I dont really like Kirk to much anymore because most of his stuff is based on everyone's favorite five tone scale... He does occasionally throw in Phrygian or Blues maybe even Dorian now and then but sticks too closely to the minor pentatonic and reuses too many licks...What do you guys think?
Rider on the Storm

I love You
05-13-2004, 10:04 PM
All bands go bad eventually, metallica is no exception

Hitroshimite
05-13-2004, 10:08 PM
All bands go bad eventually, metallica is no exception

And when they do, I'll stop listening to them.

Anyways, technically speaking Kirk is better than James (that is to say, if they were to have a guitar duel, Kirk would win). But James is a better rhythm player than Kirk is a lead player, if that makese sense.

I love You
05-13-2004, 10:12 PM
Thats not nesasaraly true (Sp) just because James doesnt bust out like kirk does, doesnt mean he cant.

Hitroshimite
05-13-2004, 10:25 PM
I do recall reading an interview where he said that he left all the lead stuff to Kirk because Kirk a better lead player, and his (James's) real strength lies in coming up with riffs.