The Wait is Almost Over! (56k Rape)

[Killer Fridge]

Yay. The wait is almost over, as eventually the final part of my new rig is almost here!

My Rig So Far

The Bass
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/Picture002.jpg

The Effects
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/Line6.jpg

The Head
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/YamahaBBT.jpg

The Cabinet

....

thats whats missing - and it will be here tomorrow after many many months of waiting to be able to afford it (its inexpensive, but all my money/birthday presents/christmas presents went into everything else), then trying to find a UK stockist, then to find some in stock, then to wait for it to be dispatched

anyway, this is what itll be

Yamaha BBT410s
http://www.bassplayer.com/Pictures/web/h/k/r/GJ7P2776.jpg


its gonna be rocking - pictures of the entire rig together will be taken tomorrow when they arrive (should be about 12 hours from now)

cool.

[Teh Glees0rz]

Holy crap, that amp looks huge!!!

Nice Thumb btw; the pickups aren't quite as slanted as others I've seen, which is nice. :thumb:

[Chris K]

Nice thumb!

[Killer Fridge]

Holy crap, that amp looks huge!!!

Nice Thumb btw; the pickups aren't quite as slanted as others I've seen, which is nice. :thumb:

the amp is actually really really really light, its something like 8 pounds

all digital, and sounds frickin fantastic!:thumb:

Nice thumb!

i thought you'd like it :D

[Akira]

the amp is actually really really really light, its something like 8 pounds

all digital, and sounds frickin fantastic!:thumb:
He meant the cab, not the head.

[PaulR]

Thats light for such a huge thing.

[Akira]

the amp is actually really really really light, its something like 8 pounds

all digital, and sounds frickin fantastic!:thumb:
I am pretty sure he meant the cab, not the head.

[Killer Fridge]

He meant the cab, not the head.

ahh fair enough, it looks even bigger when you put the head on it :smash:

[edgebass5]

I like the thumb..... I hate my guitar player's PODXT Live, so I imagine I'd hate the bass version as well..... I tried that Yamaha amp through that Yamaha 410 cab last week.... meh... it sounds VERY digital. It did an alright impression of a tube amp, but other than that I was most definitely not impressed by the tone. I am impressed with the weight of the unit versus its size and wattage, its VERY portable, and that's something I like. I also liked that it had a variable input gain with a single input jack (instead of a padded active instrument input), but didn't understand what the point of having a variable output gain AND a master volume control were... seems to me you could just control the overall output for every preset from one master and it would be a lot easier (I suppose if you want different volumes between the settings it makes sense, but that in itself doesn't make much sense to me). The compression was pretty decent at doing a complete dynamic squash, but didn't do so good at just adding a subtle compression to the upper most transient peaks.

Keep in mind I'm VERY critical when critiquing gear, so..... congrats regardless

[Teh Glees0rz]

I am pretty sure he meant the cab, not the head.

I'm pretty sure I meant the cab too. :lol:

[thelowsoundofbass]

wow nice gear

lowsound

[Killer Fridge]

I like the thumb..... I hate my guitar player's PODXT Live, so I imagine I'd hate the bass version as well..... I tried that Yamaha amp through that Yamaha 410 cab last week.... meh... it sounds VERY digital. It did an alright impression of a tube amp, but other than that I was most definitely not impressed by the tone. I am impressed with the weight of the unit versus its size and wattage, its VERY portable, and that's something I like. I also liked that it had a variable input gain with a single input jack (instead of a padded active instrument input), but didn't understand what the point of having a variable output gain AND a master volume control were... seems to me you could just control the overall output for every preset from one master and it would be a lot easier (I suppose if you want different volumes between the settings it makes sense, but that in itself doesn't make much sense to me). The compression was pretty decent at doing a complete dynamic squash, but didn't do so good at just adding a subtle compression to the upper most transient peaks.

Keep in mind I'm VERY critical when critiquing gear, so..... congrats regardless


yeah i agree completly on the whole 2 output gain and master volume, i really cannot see the point of that

and as we all know, tone is objective, but i respect your opinion completly, and i know what you mean when you say that it sounds very digital, but i quite enjoy that, it gives a slightly different tone to what im used too

also, that function button is great (although the point of the 1 band parametric EQ seems a little pointless to be honest, but im not gonna complain) and the noise gate is damn useful too because it can be quite noisy (didnt even notice the noise gate until i started randomly fiddling, and it sorted the random hissing out nicely)

cheers for the feedback people :thumb:

[Napes]

8 pounds??
Thats ridiculously light.... it'll be like carrying a second bass.

[edgebass5]

:confused: although the point of the 1 band parametric EQ seems a little pointless to be honest, but im not gonna complain) and the noise gate is damn useful too because it can be quite noisy (didnt even notice the noise gate until i started randomly fiddling, and it sorted the random hissing out nicely)

1 band parametric EQ? The one I was playing was a 5-band fixed centerpoint EQ... didn't notice anything parametric about it at all :confused: damn... I didn't notice the noise gate either

I must really be slipping if I didn't notice two very noticeable features :lol:

[thelowsoundofbass]

:confused:

1 band parametric EQ? The one I was playing was a 5-band fixed centerpoint EQ... didn't notice anything parametric about it at all :confused: damn... I didn't notice the noise gate either

I must really be slipping if I didn't notice two very noticeable features :lol:

yes you deffently are slipping

lowsound

[Killer Fridge]

:confused:

1 band parametric EQ? The one I was playing was a 5-band fixed centerpoint EQ... didn't notice anything parametric about it at all :confused: damn... I didn't notice the noise gate either

I must really be slipping if I didn't notice two very noticeable features :lol:

ahh that may be why you dismissed the compression a bit

the button on the top right changes what the 5 band knob thing does

1 press, lights above it light up and it they control the 1 band parametric

2nd press, lights above change and it controls the Compression - gives you ratio, threshold, attack, release, C.gain, knee (whatever that is, im sure you can enlighten me) noise gate and blend

barely even started to get used to all the functions and ive had it for 2 months :thumb:

ill try and pictures up in a sec of the different function lights

[Killer Fridge]

ok, this is it normally

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/Yamahabbt2.jpg

this is it after the first push (1 band parametric)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/P1010053.jpg

second push of the function button yields the compression controls

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/P1010054.jpg

ive got a poor quality video of me pressing the button to show it working and the number lights flashing, but thats pretty boring tbh

[bottlerocket]

That Warwick looks ace, man...I didn't read through the thread, so sorry if this has been answered, but is that NT or BO?

-Gav

[thelowsoundofbass]

That Warwick looks ace, man...I didn't read through the thread, so sorry if this has been answered, but is that NT or BO?

-Gav

you should be able to tell, its a BO

lowsound

[Killer Fridge]

yeah as lowsound said, its a BO (my preferred one of the two no less...although i quite liked the ebony fingerboard of the NT...might get a fretless NT actually to complement te punchyness of the BO...but thats gonna be a few years yet)

[Worrpigs]

i envy you my friend. beautiful rig. i hope you enjoy it, i sure would.

[muthafunkabass]

i want that same amp/cabinet setup. Then pair it with a Yamaha BB614.

[sixner]

wow, nice stuff man.. i've never played any Yamaha amp stuff

Nice, i assume? :lol:

-sixner

[The_Red_Death]

Awesome rig. How is the BBT500H anyway?

/Didn't really read thread, has probably been answered a thousand times.

[SlincoJ]

Very nice thumb man,and great rig,I've really wanted to try out one of those bass POD's lately,they look very nice.

[jon_slaps_bass]

Digital bleh, Yamaha bleh.......Not my style. Also I don't really see what the point of a pod is. You're a bass player you don't really need a **** load of effects....I suppose it works fine if you need to switch tones in a gig. but.....too much cash. You should have used that extra bit of money to update to the best set up around AMPEG! woot Yamaha is known in the states for ****ty equipment. And I don't really see what the big to do about warwicks are..........I was into the hype right until I played one, and I just couldn't convince myself I liked it....go figure.

[nicatterberry]

Since when is Yamaha known for ****ty equipment.

[Az_Holl]

Stereotypes ++ :lol:

[NavyBass]

Since when is Yamaha known for ****ty equipment.

I'd like to know that also. only I have another question, Since when is Ampeg considered the best set up around?
The only thing I found that Ampeg is "best" at is very limited tone amps.

They do one sound, granted it's not a bad tone, but it's very limited.

[Alma]

Nice man

[Killer Fridge]

for all those asking what the Yamaha is like - versatile - its perfect for me. It has so many great tones i can get out of it - which is great for me because im so bloody indecisive. I can never settle on one sound for more than 1 gig, and that was killing me as i was using some crappy Randall 100 watt combo that i rented. It could do muddy, and that was it. This is like a breath of fresh air to me :D

So what is the head like? I cant completly comment on it until a couple of hours when the cab arrives (last news was it was put on the van in Croyden about 2 hours ago...and thats about 2 hours away from me), but from what ive tried it with (headphones and pc) its very clean.

The line 6 is fantastic too, I only just worked out last night how to quickly turn the volume pedal into a wah (read about it, but completly forgot it!). Thats made life a bit more fun. Got some great tones out of that too, and its good fun to just add slight chorus effects on normal pieces just to sounds a little fuller.

In all, im damn pleased with the rig :thumb:

[kilian]

Hmm there are a few tones hidden in that setup. Not that I like all of them. I disliked the 'pre-mods' the Yamaha has, I briefly played on it, but it sounded not like the real deal if we can speak of that.

My oppinion: didn't quite like it when I played it alone and not with a band. I do not like to play an Ampeg SVT head with a band. Although I think their HP115 (?) combo is good enough in a band situation.


Congrats nonetheless :thumb:

[Killer Fridge]

yeah to be honest all the premods are pretty cack - it just needs a bit of time of tweaking to get the decent tones out of it

and here it is

The Box
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/P1010061.jpg

The Setup
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v67/Fridge/P1010062.jpg

[shacklecrow]

nice rig man :thumb:
i havnt tried out any pedal boards, whats it like?

[Psychopsilocybin]

that looks like a nice setup, you should get a light 1X12 as your travel cab, cause a 4x10 takes away all the smallness of that head

[Killer Fridge]

hehe, i know, it kinda ruins the point of the lightness of the head

next on the list is a Yamaha 2x10 cab as a travel one, but i need more money first :D

[darrell]

You have enough Peavey practice amps? lol...

I let someone borrow my little Hartke practice amp and they never gave it back... so for whatever I do I lug around my 410XL and my rack.

Bullshit I tell you!

[Teh Glees0rz]

Yay, it arrived! It's not as big as I thought it was going to be, but it still looks beastly. :p

What are the specs on it?

[Killer Fridge]

Well, one of the practice amps is my sisters boyfreinds (the one in the back is mine its hooked up to the pc)

And the specs? I bleive its 4 eminence speakers, 250 watts handling, 4ohms...thats about all i know! I'll see what i can find out :thumb:

[Sade]

I've been dying to try out those new yamaha digital amps. I have mixed feelings about what I'm expecting from them.

[edgebass5]

knee (whatever that is, im sure you can enlighten me)

I can and will :thumb:

There are two types of "knees" in compression, a hard knee, and a soft knee. To see what the difference between the two is, you will need to look at a dynamic signal chart. When hard knee compression kicks in, the signal dynamic hits a fixed point, and is immediately attenuated. With soft knee compression the signal is gradually attenuated up to a fixed point.

The tonal differences are pretty noticeable. Soft knee to my ears is smoother, but doesn't provide a total dynamic squash. So if a completely flat signal dynamic is your goal, use hard knee, if you're looking for subtle smooth compression, use soft knee.

[godzillarator]

Nice set up

im hopeing to get my new setup soon as well