View Full Version : Dave Navarro vs John Frusciante
MuRd0K
02-14-2006, 05:35 PM
This IS a bass related question.
With which guitarist, do you feel Flea worked the best with? I have heard a lot of critiques, read a lot of reviews, saying that Dave navarro was too weak for RHCP, and John Frusciante is better.
While I LOVE Frusciante, I feel flea's best work came with Navarro. Aeroplane, Coffee Shop, blah blah. That album has some of my favorite basslines.
Which one do you prefer? As a guitarist, I like Frusciante the best. But as working with Flea, I liked Navarro the best.
Naveed Afzal
02-14-2006, 05:36 PM
Closed!!!
Frusc
BassVirtuoso
02-14-2006, 05:37 PM
There's no question it's John Frusciante.
MuRd0K
02-14-2006, 05:40 PM
Closed!!!
Frusc
If what you meant by closed was "ILLEGAL TOPIC! NO VS. THREADS ALLOWED!!", it's more of Flea question and what do you think is his best material. Not the usual "John Frusciante is better because he HAS RHYTHM!" or blah blah.
If what you meant was a "Frusciante, /close" answer. STFU :p.
sixner
02-14-2006, 05:41 PM
i think frusciante... i like their styles together.. like on their pre-californication jam Video...... it's at Launch.com
any word on release date on new chili's?
-sixner
Akira
02-14-2006, 05:43 PM
Wow, this is really tough. I mean Frusciante is by far my favorite of the two. I love his style. But like you said, Flea's awesome slap grooves like Aeroplane came from the time with Navarro. I am going to say John, because while Flea had great lines without them, they are such an amazing duo. They pair awesomely.
PaulSimonon
02-14-2006, 05:45 PM
I think that with Navarro Flea had more room to play with and had to assume a bigger role, and his playing was better. I personally hate Navarro, but I feel that his best lines came from that era. I think Flea works better with Frusciante though, they're pretty nifty as a pair.
Munky_Jam
02-14-2006, 05:45 PM
I'm going to say navarro, truly their last funky album, but that aside, navarro's playing is a bit more sparse allowing (and kind of forcing) flea to move into a more rythmic and funky as hell style
Naveed Afzal
02-14-2006, 05:46 PM
If what you meant by closed was "ILLEGAL TOPIC! NO VS. THREADS ALLOWED!!", it's more of Flea question and what do you think is his best material. Not the usual "John Frusciante is better because he HAS RHYTHM!" or blah blah.
If what you meant was a "Frusciante, /close" answer. STFU :p.
More like... CASE CLOSED... Frusciante.
kilian
02-14-2006, 05:51 PM
I will react tomorrow on this. :smoke:
Interesting!
Tonys_Theme
02-14-2006, 06:10 PM
I think that Flea played stepped more into the spotlight with Navarro because he had no choice, however, with Frusciante there is an undeniable chemistry that has produced some great, great stuff.
All in all, Frusciante comes out on top.
TerryThorne
02-14-2006, 06:27 PM
Frusciante I think also acted as a pretty big creative influence to Flea's playing. It's obvious to hear that they're both thinking on the same level in BSSM, MM, and Californication and Flea's basslines just have a lot to work with over John's playing
edgebass5
02-14-2006, 06:33 PM
I really think Frusciante's playing has more soul than Navarro's.... coincidentally, Navarro's playing seemed a lot more sparse on One Hot Minute than typical Frusciante stuff, so Flea had more room to run.... that being said, the soulfulness of Frusciante seems to keep Flea in the pocket to some degree, and my favorite Flea basslines are the ones that are grooved based and in the pocket, not flashy and over the top...
moral of the story, Frusciante.
FenderSRX
02-14-2006, 06:33 PM
just because flea wrote more complex stuff with Dave doesnt mean it makes him a better guitarist for flea to work with. I feel that Dave doesn't compare to the stuff that John worked out with flea.
i hope i'm the first guy from the guitar forum to post in this
zink182
02-14-2006, 06:39 PM
John is without a doubt better..
Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik..
John leaves shortly after that record comes out..
nothing happens until
Californication
John back on guitar :D
moghes69
02-14-2006, 06:40 PM
any word on release date on new chili's?
-sixner
i heard this spring
Flea and Frusciante were made for each other, and you all know it.
thelowsoundofbass
02-14-2006, 06:59 PM
john by far and may 9th is the release date for the new cd
lowsound
Efrim
02-14-2006, 07:07 PM
John.
don't discuss.
he just is.
Tonys_Theme
02-14-2006, 07:10 PM
Because of the way Navarro played, Flea had to step into the spotlight a little more. He and Frusciante have an undeniable chemistry though and it brings out Flea's true talent.
So, duh, Frusciante.
Mr. Pickle
02-14-2006, 07:40 PM
well, one hot minute was a spectacular album.
BenJammin
02-14-2006, 07:53 PM
I like One Hot Minute, and I love Dave Navarro's guitar playing, but John and Flea just groove together so well; they are an amazing duo. No contest, in my eyes.
MuRd0K
02-14-2006, 07:56 PM
That's the thing! John Frusciante is awesome. I mean, definetely one of my favorite guitarists, and if somebody was to say "John Frusciante is the weakest link from the RHCP", they would get a mad rant from me.
However, that is not to say that Flea will adapt better to it just because he's a better guitarist. What would happen if you would join Pat Metheny and Les Claypool? I doubt there would be any chesmistry between them, as say Pat Metheny - Jaco Pastorius, or Les Claypool - Buckethead.
Flea did had to become, to a certain point, a "better" bassist on "One Hot Minute" because of the simple way that Dave Navarro plays. That's what I loved, and why i always wanted, at least, a second RHCP with Navarro on it.
So?
John Frusciante > Dave Navarro
However
John Frusciante with Flea < Dave Navarro with Flea
Bass-talking. If I was to judge from a fan point of view, it's Frusciante/Flea. If I judge as a bassist, it's Navarro/Flea
omgwtfboogie
02-14-2006, 07:57 PM
John Frusciante for every reason mentioned above.
Just to stick up for Navarro, I love Jane's Addiction and he was a strong element in that configuration.
Tonys_Theme
02-14-2006, 07:59 PM
And he's knocking boots with Carmen Electra, makes him a cool guy by me.:smoke:
Mr. Pickle
02-14-2006, 08:06 PM
honestly, john could probably be the weakest link in RHCP. dont get me wrong, it would suck if he left and hes a very sweet guitarist, but RHCP would be nothing w/o flea, chad and anthony.
MuRd0K
02-14-2006, 08:10 PM
Sometimes, I want to say the weakest link is Chad.... but oh god, it's just not fair =(. All of them contribute heavily to the band, and Chad is AMAZING on the drums.... but I love John over Chad....
Does that make me bad? =(
BenJammin
02-14-2006, 08:12 PM
Sometimes, I want to say the weakest link is Chad.... but oh god, it's just not fair =(. All of them contribute heavily to the band, and Chad is AMAZING on the drums.... but I love John over Chad....
Does that make me bad? =(
I think Chad is the weakest, honestly. It's not that he's bad, or anything, but he's easily replaceable. My opinion. John > Chad.
Mr. Pickle
02-14-2006, 08:14 PM
not me. even though one hot minute and every other chili pepper album are really uncomparable, anthony, chad, and flea still managed to make a spectacular album w/o john.
jollygiantchris
02-14-2006, 09:01 PM
didnt flea also play bass on the first mars volta album a little and didnt he play with fear for an album or 2? :O
RHCP with john is infinitely better than with dave period
Carpe Noctis
02-14-2006, 09:10 PM
didnt flea also play bass on the first mars volta album a little and didnt he play with fear for an album or 2? :O
RHCP with john is infinitely better than with dave period
Flea played almost the entire album (DeLoused in the Comatorium), and Frusciante stepped in to play guitar on one song (Cicatriz ESP).
What about Hillel Slovak :amaze: !?
:p In pertaining to this though, JOHN!!
Tonys_Theme
02-14-2006, 09:15 PM
From what I've seen, the Chili Peppers aren't the Chili Peppers without the members right now.
There have been so many line up changes but this is the one that has, for the most part, been able to keep it together.
One Hot Minute was by no means a "bad" album but I don't really consider it a Chili Pepper's album.
officer doofy
02-14-2006, 09:47 PM
honestly, john could probably be the weakest link in RHCP. dont get me wrong, it would suck if he left and hes a very sweet guitarist, but RHCP would be nothing w/o flea, chad and anthony.
pickle, your dumb. Dave Navarro sucks and one hot minute was the worst album the chili peppers made. I can't believe you can say john is the weakest link even though heim and anthony are basically the reason they are where they are today (can you say "under the bridge" or "can't stop" or "californication" anyone?). Chad is EASILY the weakest link in the band, they would be just as good without him.
Naveed Afzal
02-14-2006, 10:13 PM
if u listen to Frusciantes Solo album dude plays bass kind like flea.
:amaze:
02-14-2006, 10:19 PM
pickle, your dumb. Dave Navarro sucks and one hot minute was the worst album the chili peppers made. I can't believe you can say john is the weakest link even though heim and anthony are basically the reason they are where they are today (can you say "under the bridge" or "can't stop" or "californication" anyone?). Chad is EASILY the weakest link in the band, they would be just as good without him.
i would agree that chad is the "weakest link" if there was one, but there are some good songs on one hot minute (aeroplane might be my all time favorite chilis song). i like it more than their older ones ... i dont dig freakey stiley, mothers milk, or their self-titled as much as one hot minute.
:amaze:
Mr. Pickle
02-14-2006, 10:33 PM
pickle, your dumb. Dave Navarro sucks and one hot minute was the worst album the chili peppers made. I can't believe you can say john is the weakest link even though heim and anthony are basically the reason they are where they are today (can you say "under the bridge" or "can't stop" or "californication" anyone?). Chad is EASILY the weakest link in the band, they would be just as good without him.
wow, your opinions change too much. now you think one hot minute was the worst albums they've ever made? considering you've heard half of their albums, i wont think much of that statement. watch some flea and chad jams, i dont think any other drummer could fit a bassist so perfectly.
keep in mind this is the bass forum, this is asking which guitarist suits flea the best. some of the more popular flea pieces around here is coffee shop and aeroplane, which were both on the one hot minute album. dave gave flea much more room as a bassist than john ever has.
i think you just dont like the one hot minute album, because it so different then all the other albums. it's much more 'rock' driven and has much more 'variety' than any other chili pepper album out there. (excluding their old crap, which by the way are all much worse than one hot minute) i honestly think that this album was really a turning point for flea. i think with every album fleas playing gets more and more uncomparable to this album. he is still great on every album, but not nearly as good as he is on this one. it seems that every new album gets more guitar driven and less emphasis on bass. of course there is still plenty of tracks set aside for flea, but this album seemed to have great bass playing followed by great guitar playing in EVERY song, instead of have strong emphasis on one or the other.
this is IMO of course so take it how you will.
Efrim
02-14-2006, 10:35 PM
if u listen to Frusciantes Solo album dude plays bass kind like flea.
which album? some dont have any bass at all...
Naveed Afzal
02-14-2006, 10:41 PM
I only own, The DC Ep, Shadows collide with People, and The Will To Death...
DC Ep is my favorite Dissolve is a such a cool tune.
roee_co
02-14-2006, 10:45 PM
Hillel slovak in my opnion is the reason why the chili peppers still exist.
with no hillel, john wouldn't be the same since hillel was his favorite guitarist and he learned a lot from him.
I would say that i think dave gave a new sound to the chili peppers and made a great album with them. but live the group was, although still great, not having the same energy as they had with hillel or john. even flea, anthony and chad said that they thought dave doesn't suit their style of playing, although they do have a lot of respect to him.
hillel slovak only had the opportunity to make 2 albums with the chili peppers(3 if you include the first one but he didn't record the songs). these 2 albums are amazing(UMPP is my second favorite after BSSM) i think and flea was flourishing in them just as much as he did on one hot mintue or blood sugar sex magik. they had this energy, on stage and on the records, that just made them so unique and still do.
john and hillel both fit the band perfectly in my opnion and since hillel is gone, without john i think the chili peppers will quit. also i think people who try and say whos the weakest part of the band are wrong. without chad or john or flea or anthony that chili peppers now will quit and no one can ever replace the chemistry and the exprience that they have together after 15 years.
flea got the groove and the soul, chad can follow flea like no one else can, john can add to the harmony of their jams like no one can and anthony is just soulful with his singing and lyrics. they're the perfect band
Efrim
02-14-2006, 10:47 PM
I only own, The DC Ep, Shadows collide with People, and The Will To Death...
DC Ep is my favorite Dissolve is a such a cool tune.
yeah, on the DC EP, John plays the bass. If you go find Ataxia, whih is a band he formed for one album during the same period, Joe Lally does some sweet bass on it.
The Maggot
02-15-2006, 12:22 AM
i think john in the long run is the better suited guitar player for flea. when you stant aside from the music, his style keeps flea in check, and while it doesnt give flea much of a chance to go crazy, it makes him get creative with the slot he has, and truely challenges him to step up his playing a bit.
IMHO, chad is the best drummer for rhcp, his weird *** style is just insane. he has horrible technique, but he kicks ***. i can play drums pretty well and i cant touch a chilli peppers song worth a damn. navarro did well with the band, but the lineup now is as it will always be, the vide they all give off is just uncomparable. but seeing another album with navarro on it would be sweet
Mailman
02-15-2006, 12:35 AM
can play drums pretty well and i cant touch a chilli peppers song worth a damn.
Uhh, you mustn't be very good at drums. I think you need to get some perspective and see some other drummers your age.
I voted nevarro, didn't read question. But yeah, I'd say Omar from TMV is who I'd jam with over John and Dave.
blacktop_21
02-15-2006, 01:16 AM
sorry if i offend anyone but i really think john f. is highly overrated. i think navarro is a bit more original to be honest. however they both kick *** & will be better musicians than i will be so they both rock & deserve their places in the RHCP.
neatobassman
02-15-2006, 01:28 AM
Flea played almost the entire album (DeLoused in the Comatorium), and Frusciante stepped in to play guitar on one song (Cicatriz ESP).
in remembering this, I would like to change my answer to "he has worked with better" and choose Omar...
JeBuSrOcKs
02-15-2006, 03:42 AM
I believe that John is the better of the two guitarists with flea. I would say that One Hot Minute is one of their worse albums compaired to the stuff they have done with John (excluding By The Way as I didnt like that album much at all) and I just feel that John Frusciante helps to make RHCP who they are
Akira
02-15-2006, 06:08 AM
I have been thinking. I agree with you guys in thinking that Flea had good lines in the Navarro days because he took the spotlight, for better or for worse. I mean I don't pay attention to Navarro's playing all that much, it is kind of in the background. With Frusciante, Flea was out of the spotlight. His playing wasn't as showing, but he and Frusciante play together wonderfully.
fingerstyle
02-15-2006, 06:09 AM
I agree with Akira. I knew I loved One Hot Minute for a reason.
cAPS_lOCK
02-15-2006, 07:01 AM
Fleas bass riffs on OHM are really great, but what makes Chilipeppers excel is the tight, intertwined playing between bass and guitar, something that is a bit lacking on that album, imho. I mean, Flea has a great riff, Navarro has a great riff, but do they harmonize so brilliantly as in, like, Californication? Nah.
Frusciante all the way.
The Maggot
02-15-2006, 09:17 AM
Uhh, you mustn't be very good at drums. I think you need to get some perspective and see some other drummers your age.
I voted nevarro, didn't read question. But yeah, I'd say Omar from TMV is who I'd jam with over John and Dave.
have you ever really listened to it. he does some off beat stuff, its weird. and you can see alot of drummers my age tearing up a john mayer song, or worse, labamba :rolleyes:
Visti
02-15-2006, 09:19 AM
I think Flea worked really well with Omar on Deloused..
*hides*
That being said, I think his RHCP stuff with John is way superior.
CombatRocker
02-15-2006, 10:15 AM
Frusciante is the better guitarist, hands down. Navarro is pretty damn good but I think John takes the cake on this one. I also think that John and Flea play much better together also, from seeing them live and watching their DVD's you can just feel the creative energy in the air, their jams are literally breath taking. One Hot Minute was a bad *** album, Flea's basslines were ****ing nuts. But I think that Californication and By The Way were better albums, One Hot Minute just didn't really seem like much of a Peppers album to me, it seemed to be lacking something, and that something was FRUSCIANTE! Also, I don't think that there is a weakest link in the Peppers. Chad Smith is one talented drummer. His drum solo on Live At Slane Castle is pretty bad ***, and his improvisations on songs are pretty awesome as well.
LONG LIVE THE PEPPERS!!!
RoadGear
02-15-2006, 10:22 AM
John Frusciante!!!
MuRd0K
02-15-2006, 11:41 AM
Omar? Omar Rodriguez!?
Give me a break... I love TMV, but Omar is nothing but a fret wanker of random notes at random times. His playing is annoying as hell, how the hell could he fit with Flea?
d-basser
02-15-2006, 12:20 PM
Flea actually ended up writing some of the guitar on OHM cos dav joined kinda at short notice, so flea with flea hehehe
def John, saw them live the day after they played slane and it was brilliant, him and Flea are psycic or summit they just know wat the other will do and it is seamless
Esp Griffyn
02-15-2006, 12:24 PM
I dont really care who Flea has worked better with, as I have yet to be interested by anything he has done, but as far as technical ability goes, Navarro is superior, and imo he is a better soloist too.
PaulSimonon
02-15-2006, 01:20 PM
Jack Irons>all other drummers for RHCP.
Damn straight, I love that man.
RoadGear
02-15-2006, 01:44 PM
Hillel slovak in my opnion is the reason why the chili peppers still exist.
with no hillel, john wouldn't be the same since hillel was his favorite guitarist and he learned a lot from him.
I would say that i think dave gave a new sound to the chili peppers and made a great album with them. but live the group was, although still great, not having the same energy as they had with hillel or john. even flea, anthony and chad said that they thought dave doesn't suit their style of playing, although they do have a lot of respect to him.
hillel slovak only had the opportunity to make 2 albums with the chili peppers(3 if you include the first one but he didn't record the songs). these 2 albums are amazing(UMPP is my second favorite after BSSM) i think and flea was flourishing in them just as much as he did on one hot mintue or blood sugar sex magik. they had this energy, on stage and on the records, that just made them so unique and still do.
john and hillel both fit the band perfectly in my opnion and since hillel is gone, without john i think the chili peppers will quit. also i think people who try and say whos the weakest part of the band are wrong. without chad or john or flea or anthony that chili peppers now will quit and no one can ever replace the chemistry and the exprience that they have together after 15 years.
flea got the groove and the soul, chad can follow flea like no one else can, john can add to the harmony of their jams like no one can and anthony is just soulful with his singing and lyrics. they're the perfect band
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MuRd0K
02-15-2006, 06:08 PM
Any reccomendations of RHCP with Jack Irons and/or Hillel Slovak?
BenJammin
02-15-2006, 08:50 PM
Jack Irons>all other drummers for RHCP.
Damn straight, I love that man.
Agreed. Is his solo album out yet?
PaulSimonon
02-15-2006, 08:55 PM
Yup, it's ben out for a year... I'll YSI if you'd like?
*intended pun*
BenJammin
02-15-2006, 08:58 PM
Yup, it's ben out for a year... I'll YSI if you'd like?
*intended pun*
That pun was so lame, it made FDR look healthy.
But, yes. I would love you forever.
officer doofy
02-15-2006, 09:57 PM
wow, your opinions change too much. now you think one hot minute was the worst albums they've ever made? considering you've heard half of their albums, i wont think much of that statement. watch some flea and chad jams, i dont think any other drummer could fit a bassist so perfectly.
keep in mind this is the bass forum, this is asking which guitarist suits flea the best. some of the more popular flea pieces around here is coffee shop and aeroplane, which were both on the one hot minute album. dave gave flea much more room as a bassist than john ever has.
i think you just dont like the one hot minute album, because it so different then all the other albums. it's much more 'rock' driven and has much more 'variety' than any other chili pepper album out there. (excluding their old crap, which by the way are all much worse than one hot minute) i honestly think that this album was really a turning point for flea. i think with every album fleas playing gets more and more uncomparable to this album. he is still great on every album, but not nearly as good as he is on this one. it seems that every new album gets more guitar driven and less emphasis on bass. of course there is still plenty of tracks set aside for flea, but this album seemed to have great bass playing followed by great guitar playing in EVERY song, instead of have strong emphasis on one or the other.
this is IMO of course so take it how you will.
first of all, my opinions haven't changed, I said its the worst album which in no way means I don't like it, its all RELATIVE. Second of all you said John is the weakest link of the chili peppers and that was the only thing I was arguing with you about. By referring to him as the weakest member of the band, you were implying that he was holding them back from success, or from reaching their own personal goals. Seeing as how One Hot Minute Was their least successful post BSSM album, and the only one with Dave Navarro, it would be obvious, by following the rules of deduction, that Dave was the weakest member. if you add the fact that most of RHCP's biggest hits were heavily guitar driven, you may conclude that he is, in fact, one of the STRONGEST members (I guess the rest of the band agrees with me, seeing as they so enthusiastically accepted John back, effectively getting rid of Dave, as soon as he got over his drug addiction). I rest a large part of my argument on these two words; weak, and strong, because these two words throw opinion out the window. i don't care if you like John or not, but if you don't, say he's you're "least favorite" member not the "weakest" member. You may say Dave gave flea more room, but he also brought RHCP in a direction that they were niether meant to, or wanted to, go in.
You said I don't like the One Hot Minute Album because it's different than all the rest. Now you're putting words in my mouth because I never said I don't like the One Hot Minute album, but for the sake of your argument, lets say I did say I don't like that album. Why shouldn't I? I fell in love with the Chili Peppers because of what I heard on BSSM, Californication, and By The Way, something that One Hot Minute in no way resembles. Sure they were the same band in name, but in no way musically. I guess by you're reasoning I should like every Steven Spieldberg movie because I liked War of the Worlds...
Mr. Pickle
02-15-2006, 10:23 PM
first of all, my opinions haven't changed, I said its the worst album which in no way means I don't like it, its all RELATIVE. Second of all you said John is the weakest link of the chili peppers and that was the only thing I was arguing with you about. By referring to him as the weakest member of the band, you were implying that he was holding them back from success, or from reaching their own personal goals. Seeing as how One Hot Minute Was their least successful post BSSM album, and the only one with Dave Navarro, it would be obvious, by following the rules of deduction, that Dave was the weakest member. if you add the fact that most of RHCP's biggest hits were heavily guitar driven, you may conclude that he is, in fact, one of the STRONGEST members (I guess the rest of the band agrees with me, seeing as they so enthusiastically accepted John back, effectively getting rid of Dave, as soon as he got over his drug addiction). I rest a large part of my argument on these two words; weak, and strong, because these two words throw opinion out the window. i don't care if you like John or not, but if you don't, say he's you're "least favorite" member not the "weakest" member. You may say Dave gave flea more room, but he also brought RHCP in a direction that they were niether meant to, or wanted to, go in.
You said I don't like the One Hot Minute Album because it's different than all the rest. Now you're putting words in my mouth because I never said I don't like the One Hot Minute album, but for the sake of your argument, lets say I did say I don't like that album. Why shouldn't I? I fell in love with the Chili Peppers because of what I heard on BSSM, Californication, and By The Way, something that One Hot Minute in no way resembles. Sure they were the same band in name, but in no way musically. I guess by you're reasoning I should like every Steven Spieldberg movie because I liked War of the Worlds...
wow, some BS in this statement. first you said it was their worst album. have you heard their earlier records? i've heard one and believe me, i have a general idea of your taste in music, and those were crap. secondly, you said dave sucked at guitar or something to that effect and i know you have said before that you liked him.
as far as saying john was the weakest, i still stand behind that 100%. The other three made an album with a different guitarist and i thought it still kicked ***. as a matter of fact it is one of my favorite albums, tied with blood sugar. next, comapring weakest to least favorite makes no sense. john is BY NO MEANS my least favorite, chad probably is, this is just another one of the many examples of you either butchering, rewording, or assuming something i said. however flea and chad have great chemistry and are so tight together and like i said before, if the three of them can still make a kickass album w/o john, he's the weakest link IMO. in fact, how can anyone really say chad is the weakest link, or anthony and flea for that matter? if they've's been on all the albums, how can anyone know what will happen if one left? John left, so you can see what happend.
also, being the weakest member has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with holding them back. So please dont put words in my mouth.
(I guess the rest of the band agrees with me, seeing as they so enthusiastically accepted John back, effectively getting rid of Dave, as soon as he got over his drug addiction)
ohh yeah, that statement is really dumb BTW. they wanted to get rid of dave so bad that they took the time to make an album with him, instead of just waiting for john to get out.
PaulSimonon
02-15-2006, 11:22 PM
BTW, Flea and Claypool both play on Attention Dimension, along with a lot of other notables (Eddie Vedder ring a bell?)
Dannyboy15
02-16-2006, 03:46 AM
To the thread i'd say John but after BSSM his riffs are significantly weaker.
OHM was the best album for Chad. He's more of a hard rock drummer. Most of the stuff that the chili's play don't really land in the catagory anymore.
ScorpSath
02-16-2006, 07:31 PM
John by so far.
motogrifo
02-16-2006, 08:35 PM
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MuRd0K
02-16-2006, 09:07 PM
Murdok says he is a bassist, but I''ve seen him playing other stuff.
lol at his face :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/?v=hOgMsPZhJhw
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:rolleyes:Pendejo.
rhcp pman
02-17-2006, 02:48 AM
didnt flea also play bass on the first mars volta album a little and didnt he play with fear for an album or 2? :O
RHCP with john is infinitely better than with dave period
On De-Loused, Flea played bass. On Frances the Mute, he played trumpet (he's a very good trumpet player).
ToughGuyMcGee
02-17-2006, 10:18 AM
your jokin right?
dave navarro's a freakin joke
no way did he work better with flea then john did
Mr. Pickle
02-17-2006, 10:40 AM
your jokin right?
dave navarro's a freakin joke
no way did he work better with flea then john did
yeah, you make a valid point there...
pukeboy66
02-17-2006, 10:50 AM
pickle, your dumb. Dave Navarro sucks
.....
wtf
Roo_bass
02-17-2006, 01:09 PM
The intro to Californication on Live at Hyde Park is proof that Flea's best work is with Frusciante.
Radiobass81
02-17-2006, 04:09 PM
John is without a doubt better..
Blood, Sugar, Sex, Magik..
John leaves shortly after that record comes out..
nothing happens until
Californication
John back on guitar :D
Nothing happened :rolleyes:?
Not only did they have their biggest hit, but, even if they didn't, it doesn't make Flea's playing any worse with him or not,.
Radiobass81
02-17-2006, 04:13 PM
BTW, Flea and Claypool both play on Attention Dimension, along with a lot of other notables (Eddie Vedder ring a bell?)
Vedder, Flea, Claypool; seriously, the worst combination available (musically).
They do not match at all.
PaulSimonon
02-17-2006, 05:12 PM
Vedder, Flea, Claypool; seriously, the worst combination available (musically).
They do not match at all.
They're not all on the same song....
It's great music... :upset:
Okay, so Claypool and Vedder are both in the same song, and Stone Gossard and Flea play together on a track, but it really is killer.
You can't resist Jeff Ament man... he plays on a track... One of my favorite basslines too...
Radiobass81
02-17-2006, 10:14 PM
Can you send it?
Gossard + Flea must sound wicked.
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