View Full Version : Spector legend 5 bubinga top?
Bassinator89
02-13-2006, 03:21 PM
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Electric?sku=517432
Would it sound anything like a warwick because it has the bubinga? what do you guys think, has anyone tried one?
LewsTherin
02-13-2006, 04:11 PM
The top isnt very thick, and wont affect tone all that much.
Theyre pretty solid. The only complaint I have with them is the basswood body. However, they still manage to be pretty good despite it. Very bright sounding, with a halfway decent growl.
bottlerocket
02-13-2006, 04:16 PM
I don't think it will sound like a Warwick at all. Warwick Corvette standards are solid bubinga. I think these just have a bubinga top. You'll hardly get the "Warwick growl" from it. :(
I could be wrong, though, about it not being solid bubinga, but I highly doubt you'll get the Warwick tone from it.
Features include:
Original NS body shape with carved top
Available in 4, 5 and 6 string models
Exotic wood tops in select highly figured maple or bubinga
EMG/HZ pickups made in USA
EMG 3 band Active EQ system
Gold plated hardware
Spector heavy duty locking bridge
24 fret 3 ply rock maple bolt on neck w/ rosewood fingerboard
Yeah...looks like no dice according to the specs the way I'm reading them...
-Gav
Psychopsilocybin
02-13-2006, 04:20 PM
looks like a burnt peanut
which came first the warwick streamer or the spector?
bottlerocket
02-13-2006, 04:21 PM
^ They buy their designs from the same man, if that's what you're trying to get at. Warwick and Spector both buy their designs from the same guy. :thumb:
-Gav
LewsTherin
02-13-2006, 04:23 PM
looks like a burnt peanut
which came first the warwick streamer or the spector?
Idk, the Spector came out in 1977, and apparently Ned Steinberger built the first one in the Spector factory himself (its his design).
LewsTherin
02-13-2006, 04:24 PM
^ They buy their designs from the same man, if that's what you're trying to get at. Warwick and Spector both buy their designs from the same guy. :thumb:
-Gav
But the question is, when did Warwick buy the NS design?
moghes69
02-13-2006, 04:39 PM
my guess would be after spector because the streamers are discontinued and the spectors aren't
LewsTherin
02-13-2006, 04:42 PM
my guess would be after spector because the streamers are discontinued and the spectors aren't
oh, right, the streamers are discontinued.
thats why Warwick just introduced 2 new streamer models?
Body wood has little to do with tone in my opinion. And no, it wont sound like a Warwick. Warwicks are solid bubinga, and that one is only a top. Think of a top as a paint coat. Doesn't add much to the tone.
Plus, the pickups are different, everything is different. If you want a Warwick tone, get a warwick.
moghes69
02-13-2006, 07:08 PM
oh, right, the streamers are discontinued.
thats why Warwick just introduced 2 new streamer models?
my bad... i always thought they were discontinued. other than the p-nut signature at least (i don't know much about warwicks so sorry if i was wrong)
Would it sound anything like a warwick because it has the bubinga? what do you guys think, has anyone tried one?
hmm...judging by the hot electronics coming off 'em emgs, and with the density of the bubinga....nah, doubt it's sound like a warwick. if it were solid though, then maybe, forgive me for saying, but just maybe it'll sound better than a warwick. cuz them mec's aren't really all that great. they sound great, but just not the most versitile one out there.
bottlerocket
02-13-2006, 08:47 PM
^ EMG Hz's aren't "hot" at all...their output is actually pretty mild. I find them to be very brittle and flimsy in the low end area. It's mainly just twangy highs in my opinion. :p
Also, MECs aren't what makes the Warwick tone. It's their exotic woods. MECs are sorta bland sounding as well but I think they have more character than EMG Hz pickups...now EMG DCs are another story...:D
I still think if it was solid bubinga it wouldn't sound as good as a Warwick to me, although it may to others...it's all interpretation and preference. :thumb:
-Gav
Asyd309
02-13-2006, 10:54 PM
^ EMG Hz's aren't "hot" at all...their output is actually pretty mild. I find them to be very brittle and flimsy in the low end area. It's mainly just twangy highs in my opinion. :p
Also, MECs aren't what makes the Warwick tone. It's their exotic woods. MECs are sorta bland sounding as well but I think they have more character than EMG Hz pickups...now EMG DCs are another story...:D
I still think if it was solid bubinga it wouldn't sound as good as a Warwick to me, although it may to others...it's all interpretation and preference. :thumb:
-Gav
I'ma gonna go ahead and agree. I owned a Legend 5 for abuot 8 months, and the output, despite having a preamp, was not as hot as you might think it would be. And there was a noticable lack of low-end too. You will get that classic "spector sound", not a Warwick sound. It does growl with a fresh set of strings on, but it really lacked thump. That warwick tone is really a result of the high-quality woods it is constructed of.
People, you're confused. Warwicks do not "growl" because they're made of bubinga. Bodywood has a very small affect on tone.
zink182
02-14-2006, 05:55 AM
Don't get why people buy a thousand dollar warwick and the first thing that comes to mind is to change the electronics.. why buy a bass you don't like :/
Psychopsilocybin
02-14-2006, 06:08 AM
Don't get why people buy a thousand dollar warwick and the first thing that comes to mind is to change the electronics.. why buy a bass you don't like :/
you can like it but still improve it
bottlerocket
02-14-2006, 06:43 AM
People, you're confused. Warwicks do not "growl" because they're made of bubinga. Bodywood has a very small affect on tone.
No, body wood has a large effect on tone...play a Warwick made of bass wood and then play one made of bubinga and it will sound completely different.
-Gav
No, body wood has a large effect on tone...play a Warwick made of bass wood and then play one made of bubinga and it will sound completely different.
-Gav
Sure, I'll agree with you that bodywood does start the "general" tone, but once you factor in amps, pickups, onboard electronics, and strings, the wood basically becomes irrelevant.
I garuntee you I could make a basswood Warwick sound like a real Thumb with enough electronics and the right strings.
Major companies are starting to realize this, and are using different (and cheaper, might I add) woods with hotter electronics, etc. Simply because tonewood just doesn't mean what it used to back in the days of uprights and acoustics.
bottlerocket
02-14-2006, 06:54 AM
^ Hrm...fair enough. :p
Makes perfect sense...
-Gav
^ Hrm...fair enough. :p
Makes perfect sense...
-Gav
There are certain tonewoods that have greater affect than others. Walnut, I find, has a greater influence over tone than Alder or Bubinga. But, that still is changable with all the new fangled pickups, strings, and preamps available.
Jahmez
02-14-2006, 07:06 AM
At this point, there are pickups that can make your bass sound like a trumpet, violin, or even a clarinet. Find me a piece of wood that can do that.:amaze:
bottlerocket
02-14-2006, 11:04 AM
^ Obviously pickups have a large influence on the tone...modern electronics and science will obviously have a bit more influence...
-Gav
^ Obviously pickups have a large influence on the tone...modern electronics and science will obviously have a bit more influence...
-Gav
Strings still get my vote for biggest influence over tone. Some rusty, old, crappy flatwounds are going to sound immensely different than fresh ProSteels.
TheBassStylee
02-14-2006, 02:39 PM
that is a beautiful wood.. id get a 4 string if i were to buy one, but i dont know if its offered. also, id say strings do have the biggest influence over tone and pickups are a close second (you couldnt play with no strings, but you could play with no pickups, though it would be awfully quiet.. this really doesnt tie into the debate though so its pointless and i dont know why im typing it.)
> mike
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