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vocman
02-07-2006, 05:52 PM
This is my first attempt at writing lyrics, and It would be nice if you guys could help me out a little.
thanks :thumb:
Under The Crimson Sky
Oppressing the hate
Cleaning the slate
Filled with cryptic etchings
Catatonically twitching
Perception with red haze vision
Under the Crimson Sky
You took what was mine
Is it just a mammalian drive
Aphrodite’s breath down my neck
Or are the emotions anchored
Like neuro-linguistic programming
Trashed and scattered in my head
Under the Crimson Sky
You say your last goodbye
intense revulsion taking control
Distorted images of ‘us’ haunt my insides
philosophical debates concerning your disguise
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger
Perhaps It will wait a little longer
Under the Crimson Sky
Hope slowly dies
vocman
02-10-2006, 08:54 AM
*bump*
nonsense!
02-10-2006, 03:46 PM
Such big words. Are they really needed? You shouldn't have to pull the thesaurus out for your songwriting.
I'm going to be quite honest. I don't know what "Like neuro-linguistic programming" means. Brain-Language programming?
Too wordy. If this is your first attempt it was pretty good, but I'd stick to some simpler lyrics if I were you. 4/10
The_Red_Death
02-10-2006, 11:56 PM
I agree. It seems a little wordy and pretentious. Most of the time it just alienates the reader/listener, it makes it harder to "connect to". Still, it's far better than my first attempt, despite being a little hard to follow.
4/10
vocman
02-11-2006, 11:56 AM
thanks, I'll try to get rid of some of the big words :)
deathscreamingsheep
02-11-2006, 12:03 PM
No really don't get rid of them. Only lose them if you're looking at this song as a purely commercial thing rather than art. Currently for me the vocabulary you use and word choice creates the imagary essential to the piece.
Oppressing the hate
Cleaning the slate
Not the best start, but the next few lines of the stanza are good.
Is it just a mammalian drive
Aphrodite’s breath down my neck
Or are the emotions anchored
Like neuro-linguistic programming
Trashed and scattered in my head
I like this stanza again. It's a good contrast between the brutish, poetic and then the cold feel of human technology. I don't think the last line is very good though, it doesn't sum the stanza up well and seems just tacked on the end. Also, trashed and scatterd... isn't that an Avenged Sevenfold song?
intense revulsion taking control
Distorted images of ‘us’ haunt my insides
philosophical debates concerning your disguise
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger
Perhaps It will wait a little longer
Maybe include some punctuation to show some form of direction and also tell a reader what is a statement or whether something remains unsaid etc etc... I didn't really like your rhyme scheme, but the 3rd and 4th lines were good. The last two were pretty mediocre though.
I'll give it a 6.5-7/10. It needs improvement but it's got potential.
Can you crit my song 'Notes of a Contemporary'.
vocman
02-11-2006, 12:20 PM
thx, I'll jump to it
slack
02-11-2006, 12:50 PM
Anymore, it seems pretentious when writers drop names from ancient mythology into their works without fleshing the relevant ideas out, and giving it more context. So it is with Aphrodite. It comes out of nowhere and is gone just as quick, and for what purpose? To give this credibility?
This sounds like something KMFDM would write, only slightly better. The verses are grammatical nightmares, but it probably works well with the music, so whatever. Second verse is probably my favorite in terms of substance, despite the pet peeve I have with name dropping. And then the last verse is again generally solid.
It's decent. Not atrocious, but nothing to scream and shout about either.
DeadReligion
02-11-2006, 02:53 PM
Neuro-linguistic, was the only word that I think should be changed. The rest goes with the subject matter nicely, however, in most pieces, you shouldn't try to use that many big words. They are like any other words...too much of them makes them lose their punch/value.
linamarquez
02-12-2006, 08:57 PM
if this song has music attached to it, don't change a thing. leave it the way it is.
vocman
02-14-2006, 06:37 PM
Neuro-linguistic, was the only word that I think should be changed. The rest goes with the subject matter nicely, however, in most pieces, you shouldn't try to use that many big words. They are like any other words...too much of them makes them lose their punch/value.
I used that word to get a contrast between passion & feeling and thinking & talking, so I needed a word that included thinking and talking.
the whole stanza means something like:
is it passion, love, or am I just thinking and talking my way into an idée fixe to be found everywhere in my mind
I tried to make that a bit more poetic, and came up with:
Is it just a mammalian drive
Aphrodite’s breath down my neck
Or are the emotions anchored
Like neuro-linguistic programming
Trashed and scattered in my head
but know that I think about it, "neuro-linguistic programming" is an ugly word.
thanks everyone for the help :thumb:
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