HaVIC5 plays the Maple Leaf Rag (New Video)

[HaVIC5]

HaVIC5 here coming atcha with my latest endeavour, the Maple Leaf Rag. It's still very much a work in progress, as evident by the screw ups in the C and D sections, but whaddyagunnado. In retrospect, I also took it way too fast.

http://www.youtube.com/w/?v=1khJY8eeNWo

Enjoy!

[Sade]

How incredibly uninteresting.

[I play that funky music]

Good tapping skill though.

[Sade]

Good tapping skill though.

All the skill in the world doesn't mean **** if it sounds like the soundtrack to flies having intercourse.

[SixnStones]

thats kl, bit boring after a while i found (thats just taste, not your playing) but very well done. I like it

[SixnStones]

All the skill in the world doesn't mean **** if it sounds like the soundtrack to flies having intercourse.

flies don't have intercourse.

if you're thinking "exactly"...

[tim_commerfordism]

whats that from? its good i like it, isnt it from a game? it rings a bell.

[darrell]

It's a very famous piece of music by Scott Joplin... Maple Leaf Rag... Never heard of it? It was one of those pieces that came out of Tin Pan Alley in the late 19th century. Joplin was the one who also wrote "The Entertainer"... is that next on your to-do list, Havic?

Anyways, I thought it was awesome. I would def. love to learn that... I suck at that style though... I don't know how to practice it. Any suggestions/songs? Probably something easier to start slow.

Edit: Do you have any of this written out? Either sheet music or tab (preferably tab... won't have to decipher which strings to play each note on)?

[I play that funky music]

WOOOO

Havic vs Sade in a tap off

[sixner]

^it does ring a bell.... (edit) nvm that...(/edit)

I liked it over all, but did get a bit boring after a while... pretty great stuff though man.
-sixner

[Bass_ment]

Nice Hair cut.......NOT!

jk

Nice Tapping, but the main thought that was going through my head the whole while I was watching that was: "Man this kid just needs a piano".

[Sade]

WOOOO

Havic vs Sade in a tap off

That would be interesting, seeing as how he is a thousand times better than me.

I havn't a clue why he's not been able to write a single tune that interested me at all.

Excessive knowledge of theory is exceptionally crippling, IMO.

[darrell]

All the skill in the world doesn't mean **** if it sounds like the soundtrack to flies having intercourse.

Not a fan of Scott Joplin, eh?

[katana_manatee]

Very impressive, you might want to have a look at Adam Fulara's version of it on guitar: http://www.adam.fulara.com/e.php?g=music

Just scroll down a bit, check out his other movies too, very cool.

You have made me want to get a seven string all over again. I will buy one some day. Maybe you should do some classical piano arrangements soon? I know you have done some Bach but maybe something like Chopin's prelude #15 in Db (Raindrop Prelude) would be a good project?

When did you get the Conklin btw?

[Sade]

Not a fan of Scott Joplin, eh?

I've never heard anything about him, or by him. So I have no idea.

But this was boring, plain and simple. Sure, he's got the flashy chops and breath-taking plucking hand touchstyle technique, but it's boring as hell, and pure wank in my opinion. There is no "vibe" no "emotion" and no counter-melodic production. It's just hey, look at this boring G scale with this boring G scale on top of it.

Again, I've never once met a musician with excessive knowledge of theory that made entertaining music.

[Chameleon]

^ Or perhaps the Fantasie Impromptu should be next on his list? :lol:

[TheBassman238]

Excessive knowledge of theory is exceptionally crippling, IMO.

123... My lead guitarist in my band is a Theory Nazi it takes originality and flow out of stuff. But i have excessive theory knowledge too, but when i write peices i put it on the back burner otherwise its always to bland IMO

-TBM

[trumpeter]

^ Or perhaps the Fantasie Impromptu should be next on his list? :lol:


No, moonlight movement 3.


Oh and Havic...if you sang the words I would be more impressed.

[Akira]

The tapping is brilliant, but I am with Sade. It really seemed boring.

[Sade]

123... My lead guitarist in my band is a Theory Nazi it takes originality and flow out of stuff. But i have excessive theory knowledge too, but when i write peices i put it on the back burner otherwise its always to bland IMO

-TBM

It's something I just don't understand. Both theory and why theory makes music bad.

[darrell]

Oh and Havic...if you sang the words I would be more impressed.

Sang what words?

[darrell]

You guys have to go download the original song. Havic did not write this song. Scott Joplin did. All Havic did was play it on bass. Very well, I may add. This song is from 1899... it's originally played on piano. It's very old and is probably not going to appeal to most of you. Listen to a recording of it on piano. Havic did an awesome job playing this and theory is not an issue here.

[trumpeter]

Verse 1: I came from ole Virginy From de county Acomac
I have no wealth to speak of 'cept de clothes upon my back.
I can do de country hoe down I can buck and wing to show down,
And while I'm in the notion just step back and watch my motion.

Chorus: Oh go 'way man I can hypnotize dis nation,
I can shake de earth's foundation wid de Maple Leaf Rag
Oh go 'way man just hold you breath a minit,
For there's not a stunt thats in it with the Maple Leaf Rag.

Verse 2: I dropp'd into de swellest ball, The great exclusive it,
But my face was dead agin me and my trousers didn't fit.
But when Maple Leaf was started my timidity departed.
I lost my trepidation you could taste de admiration.

Chorus: Oh go 'way man I can hypnotize dis nation,
I can shake de earth's foundation wid de Maple Leaf Rag
Oh go 'way man just hold you breath a minit,
For there's not a stunt thats in it with the Maple Leaf Rag.

INTERLUDE WITH DANCE
Verse 3: De men were struck wid jealousy, De razors 'gan to flash.
But de ladies gathered 'round me for I'd sholy made a mash.
De finest belle she sent a boy to call a coach and four.
We rode around a season till we both were lost to reason

Chorus: Oh go 'way man I can hypnotize dis nation,
I can shake de earth's foundation wid de Maple Leaf Rag
Oh go 'way man just hold you breath a minit,
For there's not a stunt thats in it with the Maple Leaf Rag.


Those ones.

[Sade]

You guys have to go download the original song. Havic did not write this song. Scott Joplin did. All Havic did was play it on bass. Very well, I may add. This song is from 1899... it's originally played on piano. It's very old and is probably not going to appeal to most of you. Listen to a recording of it on piano. Havic did an awesome job playing this and theory is not an issue here.

Ok, so he picked a boring song from a boring musical time period that holds no contemporary significance over the musical influence of the people on this forum, to which he is appealing.

Brilliant logic.

[trumpeter]

NOTES: The song is in Eb, not Ab like the rag, and the C section is omitted. Although not the first rag written or published, Maple Leaf Rag did become the first instrumental piece to sell over one million copies. The rag was named by Joplin in honor of the venue in which it was allegedly first heard by publisher John Stark, the Maple Leaf Club in Sedalia, Missouri. The original Maple Leaf Club was actually a social club that met in a saloon run by the Williams brothers, who by some reports may have come from Canada, thus the name. It's run was essentially from December of 1898 to January of 1900. The building no longer stands.

A nice tidbit of info

[darrell]

Those ones.

I think those were added later, no?

[trumpeter]

I think those were added later, no?


They were, but, they are still lyrics. And It would be more impressive if Havic sang along.

[darrell]

Ok, so he picked a boring song from a boring musical time period that holds no contemporary significance over the musical influence of the people on this forum, to which he is appealing.

Brilliant logic.

Ok, so you believe he has bad taste in music. Still... Where is theory an issue?

[Commie Jack]

Haha, cool tune. Those piano rags translate pretty well onto solo bass. They come out sounding very carnival-esque. I had a whole book of piano rags when I played piano. They were fun as hell to play. Maybe I should bust that out and take a look at some of them.

[darrell]

They were, but, they are still lyrics. And It would be more impressive if Havic sang along.

Oh, alright. I've never heard the words to this. I always thought it was an instrumental.

[Sade]

Ok, so you believe he has bad taste in music. Still... Where is theory an issue?

Alright, HaVIC is probably the most versed in theory on this forum, would you agree? If not the most, then he is def. one of the top theory-masters around here.

Go listen to the originals on his soundclick.

He should change his name to TheArmedYawn. It's boring.

I don't mean to turn this into a tear down a forum member fest, but I find it boring, and darrel's asking, so I'm clarifying.

[Chameleon]

No, moonlight movement 3.


Nah, the Chopin.

Moonlight 3 is large and arpeggiated, and difficult but the fantasie is polyrhythmic, involves an incredible right tapping hand and a damn good left tapping hand. I don't know if it's possible, I've seen the individual parts played on guitar, but never together. In fact, the melody is two-hand tapped......especially when you get to the inverted arpeggio sections in the right hand.

[katana_manatee]

The thing with theory is the way I am being taught it is, drill it like crazy for a long while til you really get your head round it all, then forget it. Basically you end up using it like it was second nature to make what is in your head possible, and you should know when something that just sounds cool, is better than what is "right". But learn as much theory as you can, just don't be too strict on how you apply it. It is far better in the long run to know it than not, just be careful with it.

[Knifeboy]

I love this song.. Very well played :thumb:

[darrell]

Alright, HaVIC is probably the most versed in theory on this forum, would you agree? If not the most, then he is def. one of the top theory-masters around here.

Go listen to the originals on his soundclick.

He should change his name to TheArmedYawn. It's boring.

I don't mean to turn this into a tear down a forum member fest, but I find it boring, and darrel's asking, so I'm clarifying.

I haven't listened to his stuff on soundclick, so I can't say anything about that. Here in this very thread with this very recording however, theory is not an issue. He does know an excessive amount of theory, which I think is cool, but really none was required to play this.

Although I wouldn't have Scott Joplin blaring on my radio in my car, I think his music is special in that it has survived for over a hundred years and is still well known (at least, I thought it was before this thread). Personally, I would rather see Mozart or Beethoven tapped.

[cAPS_lOCK]

Haha, Havic's threads never cease to draw a crowd.

I really liked it, though I think you could've slowed it down a bit. Then again, I haven't heard the original, so this tempo is perhaps how it should be played.

And I didn't think it was boring. Then again, I like jazz and swing, so I'm used to it. :)

[boblikesjazz]

Again, I've never once met a musician with excessive knowledge of theory that made entertaining music.Wow, what an ignorant cunt you are. I suggest you stop adding to your post count unless you have something intelligent to say.

[Sade]

Wow, what an ignorant cunt you are. I suggest you stop adding to your post count unless you have something intelligent to say.

Oh wait, silly me; I forgot this wasn't an internet forum based on the exchanging of opinions on musical subjects.

Shut the **** up.

[BassVirtuoso]

Havic, you should do a 2 handed tapping version of Shaft.

[victor_claypool]

I enjoyed it. Nice job HaVIC5. What peices are you working on now (if any)?

[HaVIC5]

Ok, so he picked a boring song from a boring musical time period that holds no contemporary significance over the musical influence of the people on this forum, to which he is appealing.

Brilliant logic.
No contemporary significance? Excuse me? The Maple Leaf rag and all of Scott Joplin's rags were incredibly important in creating the entire concept of not only the genre of jazz, but the entirety of popular music as well. His music was among the first "serious" amalgamations of African and European musics, and the "oom-pah" bassline coupled with the syncopated melody continue to influence all popular music today.

I can understand you finding it boring. But really, all this thread you've been attacking me on things that have nothing to do with my playing, like theoretical knowledge and the song itself. Try not to, mkay?

Besides, you all (should) know that mostof the stuff I post here are just my technical experiments. I do play in many groups where "boring" two-handed tapping is not what I do. Here's one endeavour. http://www.myspace.com/royalflushdc

[Sade]

No contemporary significance? Excuse me? The Maple Leaf rag and all of Scott Joplin's rags were incredibly important in creating the entire concept of not only the genre of jazz, but the entirety of popular music as well. His music was among the first "serious" amalgamations of African and European musics, and the "oom-pah" bassline coupled with the syncopated melody continue to influence all popular music today.

I can understand you finding it boring. But really, all this thread you've been attacking me on things that have nothing to do with my playing, like theoretical knowledge and the song itself. Try not to, mkay?

Besides, you all (should) know that mostof the stuff I post here are just my technical experiments. I do play in many groups where "boring" two-handed tapping is not what I do. Here's one endeavour. http://www.myspace.com/royalflushdc

You never cease to amaze me with your complete lack of humility.

I said your stuff is boring. OH NOEZ.

It's becoming quite evident to me that the theory masters around here (and really, jesus christ; you know more than pretty much anybody I've ever seen) just cannot make music I enjoy listening to. Sure, that's not true for alot of classical peices/film scores/etc that I listen to, but around here, on mx, in terms of bass guitar; theory=boring.

That's just my experience.

I bring up the theory thing simply because when I see your name, I think of all the knowledge you have on the subject. I make a mental correlation between theory and your music simply because you do know it.

[darrell]

Here's a midi file for the Maple Leaf Rag... My favorite part is that ascending arpeggio or whatever that is. I would love to learn that just to incorporate it into my playing.
{link omitted}

...And here's the Entertainer. Sade, you claim to have never heard of him or anything by him, but you MUST know this song... well, I would hope you would have heard it. You probably have it on your cell phone. Check it out...
{link omitted}

Edit: Crap. I guess you can't link right to them. Go on this page and scroll down to them. http://www.fortunecity.com/millenium/quarrybank/194/music2.htm

[HaVIC5]

Thats not all you said, as evident by my attack on your attack of the contemporary influence. Read, please.

[Sade]

Thats not all you said, as evident by my attack on your attack of the contemporary influence. Read, please.

I could care less about anything you said on that subject. Knowing the specific ethnic origins of certain portions of certain modern songs isn't going to make me appriciate the sound any more. I say contemporary significance in terms of the majority of ignorant people like myself, who choose not to divulge or become interested in the origins of this "boring music" that you so eloquently attempt to edify.

It's completely subjective, dude. If you and yours get along fine with it, more power to you; I appriciate the time and effort it takes to learn this. But from my perspective, it seems like such a wasted effort.

[SixnStones]

i listened to ur myspace havic, i like it, but i dont like watching u play something as complex and talented as this Joplin and then not even being able to notice the bass parts in your band work. But otherwise, kickass songs

[Jimbobntnr]

http://www.youtube.com/w/?v=1khJY8eeNWo

Enjoy!
well played.

[darrell]

It's completely subjective, dude. If you and yours get along fine with it, more power to you; I appriciate the time and effort it takes to learn this. But from my perspective, it seems like such a wasted effort.

Meh, I thought it was pretty cool... (transition into repeating a question for HaVIC)... so cool that I was wondering if you had this tabbed (or sheet music)? Kthx. :thumb:

[Sade]

Meh, I thought it was pretty cool... (transition into repeating a question for HaVIC)... so cool that I was wondering if you had this tabbed (or sheet music)? Kthx. :thumb:

See? Subjective. This dude seems to get off on it, so...yeah. Point proven.

[Knifeboy]

i listened to ur myspace havic, i like it, but i dont like watching u play something as complex and talented as this Joplin and then not even being able to notice the bass parts in your band work. But otherwise, kickass songs

I hear the bass quite well in those myspace songs.. And I'm a dumb guitarist that have trouble noticin bass in most music

[SixnStones]

I hear the bass quite well in those myspace songs.. And I'm a dumb guitarist that have trouble noticin bass in most music

i didn't say 'hear' the bass part, i mean notice it as in it sticks out as a valuable musical contribution to the song, but yes, you are a dumb guitarist, kudos to you for getting that right :thumb:

[trumpeter]

Nah, the Chopin.

Moonlight 3 is large and arpeggiated, and difficult but the fantasie is polyrhythmic, involves an incredible right tapping hand and a damn good left tapping hand. I don't know if it's possible, I've seen the individual parts played on guitar, but never together. In fact, the melody is two-hand tapped......especially when you get to the inverted arpeggio sections in the right hand.


I agree, I just much prefer Moonlight 3 because I hear the Chopin all the time. However, I agree with your points. He shoudl do both.

[darrell]

See? Subjective. This dude seems to get off on it, so...yeah. Point proven.

I'm not sure if it's because HaVIC is just awesome at touchstyle, but it sounded as if the piece lent itself towards being tapped. If I had to pick any one song to play, this would not be my first choice, but it came out awesome.

Taste in music is all based on opinions and until you realize that, you will be considered ignorant by many. Nothing towards you... Some people will like it; others won't.

/listens to "Different Strokes."

[Chameleon]

I agree, I just much prefer Moonlight 3 because I hear the Chopin all the time. However, I agree with your points. He shoudl do both.


No.









He should do both...at the same time.

But yes, the Chopin is played rather a lot!

[Sade]

I'm not sure if it's because HaVIC is just awesome at touchstyle, but it sounded as if the piece lent itself towards being tapped. If I had to pick any one song to play, this would not be my first choice, but it came out awesome.

Taste in music is all based on opinions and until you realize that, you will be considered ignorant by many. Nothing towards you... Some people will like it; others won't.

Umm, are you saying that last bit to me? I've been saying the same thing the entire thread...perhaps you should try reading my posts.

[trumpeter]

No.









He should do both...at the same time.

But yes, the Chopin is played rather a lot!


Nearly every piaon recital I go to at my music school I hear it...I've heard moonlight 3...one time, it was amazing

[darrell]

Umm, are you saying that last bit to me? I've been saying the same thing the entire thread...perhaps you should try reading my posts.

*cough*

Taste in music is all based on opinions and until you realize that, you will be considered ignorant by many. Nothing towards you... Some people will like it; others won't.

See?


It was just a general statement to the entire forum. Don't get your panties in a bunch. :p

[katana_manatee]

^ Just like some people's opinion on my idea of a touch style arrangement of a whole new world in Disney's Alladin would be a terrible idea.

I dunno if I will do it though, might be too cheesy to attempt.

[Sade]

*cough*



See?


It was just a general statement to the entire forum. Don't get your panties in a bunch. :p

Nothing towards you implies he's saying it to me. Unless I read that incorrectly, which would showcase the beauty of miscommunication on the internet.

[Jody LeCompte]

Just to hop on sade's bandwagon for a bit. Theory is good to know if you get stuck in a tight spot but its always better to know your instrument. Going to the right place musically isnt always the most appealing. Dissonance can be used tastefully

EDIT: But like sade said, excessive theory is just useless.

[Sade]

^ Just like some people's opinion on my idea of a touch style arrangement of a whole new world in Disney's Alladin would be a terrible idea.

I dunno if I will do it though, might be too cheesy to attempt.

That would be about as cool as you can get.

Do it.

[trumpeter]

The theory argument depends on the music.


I don't really care to explain.

[darrell]

Nothing towards you implies he's saying it to me. Unless I read that incorrectly, which would showcase the beauty of miscommunication on the internet.

The latter.


I meant "nothing towards you" to state that it wasn't directed at you.

[Sade]

The latter.


I meant "nothing towards you" to state that it wasn't directed at you.

Ahh, I read that differently. My bad.

[darrell]

EDIT: But like sade said, excessive theory is just useless.

I don't think it's useless. You just have to know when to bend the rules a little bit. It, in fact, is very helpful.

[Jody LeCompte]

I don't think it's useless. You just have to know when to bend the rules a little bit. It, in fact, is very helpful.
When I say excessive theory, I mean "Your playing this note, I can play these three notes and these 4 as a passing tone to the arpegiated augmented 5th of the hypotenuse of pie"

I know chord construction, key construction, my fretboard, scales, and modes. Everything else should just be a bit of feel, IMO.

[Sade]

I don't think it's useless. You just have to know when to bend the rules a little bit. It, in fact, is very helpful.

Just to clarify my point here:

I totally agree with theory being helpful. I mean, we're musicians, right? Theory is the complex understanding of sounds and how they work. No doubt it is helpful.

What I'm seeing a trend in, though; is the use of theory so vividly that it actually starts to detract from the simple "beauty" of things. I'm referring just to this forum and the people who post on it, though; not anywhere else. Just to clear that up.

[katana_manatee]

That would be about as cool as you can get.

Do it.

Ha ha, ok, I'll get round to it when I have finished writing Evolution, my six string tapping original. Kinda sounds like a piece by the kid you would get if Wooten and Manring could have sex.

[Chameleon]

@trumpeter: Have you heard the Chopin played well? I've never heard it played very well at all...but i've never heard it at a recital either, only in practise rooms.


About the theory thing, a lot of people are saying it's "useless".

Even THAT is subjective. I know people who see no value in reading music, yet becoming a "working" musician won't work that well if you can't read music. These people normally aren't interested in session work.

Likewise, if Havic wanted to become a doctor->professor of music for example, this knowledge would be extremely useful for him.

[Jody LeCompte]

They can, it just wouldnt ammount to much

[katana_manatee]

Ha ha ha, check out this "How Adam Neely Are you?" quiz:

http://quizilla.com/users/thearmedpawn/quizzes/How%20Adam%20Neely%20are%20you%3F/

[Sade]

Ha ha, ok, I'll get round to it when I have finished writing Evolution, my six string tapping original. Kinda sounds like a piece by the kid you would get if Wooten and Manring could have sex.

They could have sex quite easily.

Manring might break and Wooten might have too much fun, though.

I can't wait to hear an original from you. I'm sure it will be top notch. Get to work!

[Soulfly666]

Haha, that was pretty cool. You just need to clean it up a little bit and work on the timing and you'll have it down for sure. You already have it down for the most part anyway. I didn't thinking it was boring, but I could see how other could think so. You almost look like a robot like you're playing. If you don't look like you're enjoying what you're playing, then others won't enjoy it either. I know it's a difficult piece, but try to liven up a bit. Great Job! :)

[Sade]

@trumpeter: Have you heard the Chopin played well? I've never heard it played very well at all...but i've never heard it at a recital either, only in practise rooms.


About the theory thing, a lot of people are saying it's "useless".

Even THAT is subjective. I know people who see no value in reading music, yet becoming a "working" musician won't work that well if you can't read music. These people normally aren't interested in session work.

Likewise, if Havic wanted to become a doctor->professor of music for example, this knowledge would be extremely useful for him.

While what you say is true, I think they're just referring to the erotic following of theory to the letter as being useless.

[darrell]

When I say excessive theory, I mean "Your playing this note, I can play these three notes and these 4 as a passing tone to the arpegiated augmented 5th of the hypotenuse of pie"

I know chord construction, key construction, my fretboard, scales, and modes. Everything else should just be a bit of feel, IMO.

Haha... I love how it turned into a math problem.

I think theory helps in letting you know what you can do. Try writing a piece of music without listening to what you are playing. Many composers never got the chance to hear what they wrote. They just wrote it with a pen and staff paper (or whatever they used back then). You have to not only have the knowledge of theory though.. you have to have common sense and a musicial ear to know what sounds good and interesting compared to what sounds boring. That's just my opinion though.

[katana_manatee]

They could have sex quite easily.

Manring might break and Wooten might have too much fun, though.

I can't wait to hear an original from you. I'm sure it will be top notch. Get to work!

It is over three quarters finished but I have still to figure out some of the parts in my head and have the ability to play them well. It is sounding pretty nice so far, it is through composed, hence the title of Evolution. It is contantly moving to other places and generally evolving. I am gonna go work on it just now. :thumb:

[Riouken]

I'm kind of disappointed.


Keep at it my dear fellow!

[Sade]

It is over three quarters finished but I have still to figure out some of the parts in my head and have the ability to play them well. It is sounding pretty nice so far, it is through composed, hence the title of Evolution. It is contantly moving to other places and generally evolving. I am gonna go work on it just now. :thumb:
It sounds like it will be great.

You should record some of that Samba (or whatever) stuff too. That was neat-o.

[Jody LeCompte]

Haha... I love how it turned into a math problem.

I think theory helps in letting you know what you can do. Try writing a piece of music without listening to what you are playing. Many composers never got the chance to hear what they wrote. They just wrote it with a pen and staff paper (or whatever they used back then). You have to not only have the knowledge of theory though.. you have to have common sense and a musicial ear to know what sounds good and interesting compared to what sounds boring. That's just my opinion though.
I understand that completely, but personally, I can see havic playing piano in a jazz trio before hes making Theolious Monk cry out from heaven with his orchestral compositions

[Pastorius]

I might be able to start recording now, I'm getting my bass amp up in Uni. I've got one complete original tapping piece, and a few unfinished.

I'm really concentrating on writing my boring prog metal at the moment.

[bbbbass]

Sade is right; when people look too into theory, the music sometimes loses emotional value. I believe that music is just another outlet of emotion. All systems, including music, will produce patterns, which is what theory studies.

Besides the point, Havic is an awesome player, I enjoyed the technique, but not the music.

[Riouken]

I didn't enjoy either.

Perhaps I'm too hungry at the moment.

[tenorbass]

I enjoyed it alot. Your tone sounded very true to the song as well did the tapping. The 7string really sounds amazing! How do you like it? Can you play more songs on it because of the added range? Could you do this on your cort or not?


P.S. Any Chance of doing some more tapping lessons/ Video lessons?

Keep up the good work :thumb:

[Phalanx]

i thought that was really good. Don't listen to Sade (i'm sure you haven't anyway)

and can I just say that the Conklin is sounding really nice :)

[Sade]

i thought that was really good. Don't listen to Sade (i'm sure you haven't anyway)

and can I just say that the Conklin is sounding really nice :)

Umm, ok? Way to be a douche bag. My points are valid, and I have explained them in a respectful, and intellectual manner. You may now take this oppertunity to edit that crap out of your post.

[Phalanx]

How incredibly uninteresting.

:wave:

personally, I would have said

I thought the tapping was good, but its not my music, but that's me

since I liked the song however, I wouldn't have said that

[Sade]

:wave:

Congratulations, you're now on ignore.

[EADG]

Anyone else think Sade is a bit jealous? Maybe it's just me.


I liked the video, your technique is even better now (although from everything I've heard, it's been great). But what was that clicking sound?

[EADG]

Umm, ok? Way to be a douche bag. .


Oh my god... think of a new insult... please...

[Sade]

Anyone else think Sade is a bit jealous? Maybe it's just me.


I liked the video, your technique is even better now (although from everything I've heard, it's been great). But what was that clicking sound?

Oh shut the **** up.

[Phalanx]

Anyone else think Sade is a bit jealous? Maybe it's just me.


I liked the video, your technique is even better now (although from everything I've heard, it's been great). But what was that clicking sound?

yeah, i've noticed the clicking sound as well, in every Havic video i've seen (i think i've seen them all) there is this clicking sound in the background like someone tapping on a keyboard

[EADG]

Alright, HaVIC is probably the most versed in theory on this forum, would you agree? If not the most, then he is def. one of the top theory-masters around here.
.


What about quatre?

[mr_coffeekiller]

But Sade, he's just voicing an oppinion...

[Sade]

What about quatre?

Read the post again moron.

[EADG]

Oh shut the **** up.


Well he's the one that always gets all of the attention and praise, and you bitch about it, what am I supposed to think?

[Sade]

But Sade, he's just voicing an oppinion...

Oh really was he?

Sounds sort of like what I was doing.

[Sade]

Well he's the one that always gets all of the attention and praise, and you bitch about it, what am I supposed to think?

What did I bitch about?

Oh yeah, that's right; the aesthetics of theory and it's application to contemporary music. NOT the "attention" he's getting.

[EADG]

Read the post again moron.


I read it just fine. This is what you wrote:


Alright, HaVIC is probably the most versed in theory on this forum, would you agree?



And I did not agree. How am I a moron?

[Sade]

I read it just fine. This is what you wrote:






And I did not agree. How am I a moron?

I'm sorry, you're not a moron. You just can't read the second half of the first post you quoted.

"If not the most, then he is def. one of the top theory-masters around here."

Omg! Could Quatre be considered one of those other top-theory experts? Nope, absolutely not. While we're at it, let's just get rid of Left_Shoe from that list, as well.

[mr_coffeekiller]

No, what you did was either order him to be quiet using swear words or insulting him (depending on your point of view). Not voicing an oppinion.

[Riouken]

Well, if anything... Sade has praised Havic in this thread also...


"Thousand times better than me."

"Theory master on mx"


etc.etc.


...

[Moon Flavor]

I thought it was cool...I don't see how you're all calling that wank...sure it'd be hard to play, but it's a damn catchy song.

havic: Unmud your tone a bit and it would be better.

[EADG]

What did I bitch about?

Oh yeah, that's right; the aesthetics of theory and it's application to contemporary music. NOT the "attention" he's getting.


But the attention is probably your motive.. I don't care, if you are jealous of him, I know you'd never admit it. It's just how I see things. If you don't like his music, you don't have to tell everyone. There's a lot of people who's music I don't like, and a lot of people who I think totally suck, but I don't have to tell them just for the sake of telling them.

[cAPS_lOCK]

yeah, i've noticed the clicking sound as well, in every Havic video i've seen (i think i've seen them all) there is this clicking sound in the background like someone tapping on a keyboard

Aha! Busted! He's playing playback, with someone in the background doing the lines on a keyboard. ^^

[EADG]

I'm sorry, you're not a moron. You just can't read the second half of the first post you quoted.

"If not the most, then he is def. one of the top theory-masters around here."

Omg! Could Quatre be considered one of those other top-theory experts? Nope, absolutely not. While we're at it, let's just get rid of Left_Shoe from that list, as well.


I did read it. And I agree that he is one of the top. But you didn't ask if he was one of the top, you asked if he was THE top. And I said no.

[Sade]

No, what you did was either order him to be quiet using swear words or insulting him (depending on your point of view). Not voicing an oppinion.

Yeah, because when people make juvinile and ridiculous claims as to the logistics of my critique, they deserve a paragraph of proper forum etiquette, not a big tall frosty glass of STFU.

[roee_co]

Very nice playing man
you need a great coordination to be able to pull off songs like that and looks like you did it. i just hoped the quality was better because after a while i kinda got sick of the quality and it made me a little bored, but if i saw u playing it live i would've definetly been more into it.

[Sade]

But the attention is probably your motive.. I don't care, if you are jealous of him, I know you'd never admit it. It's just how I see things. If you don't like his music, you don't have to tell everyone. There's a lot of people who's music I don't like, and a lot of people who I think totally suck, but I don't have to tell them just for the sake of telling them.

Just shut the **** up EADG, seriously.

[EADG]

Yeah, because when people make juvinile and ridiculous claims as to the logistics of my critique, they deserve a paragraph of proper forum etiquette, not a big tall frosty glass of STFU.


Hmm. Perhaps you should get outside more. I've had enough internet arguing for today. How old are you anyway, 24? And you argue with teenagers on forums?

[HaVIC5]

Aha! Busted! He's playing playback, with someone in the background doing the lines on a keyboard. ^^
You got me. :p

No, it's just my retarded camera. For some reason it always makes that clicking sound. I still haven't figured out how to get rid of it.

[Sade]

Hmm. Perhaps you should get outside more. I've had enough internet arguing for today. How old are you anyway, 24? And you argue with teenagers on forums?

I forgot the cut-off age for music discussion was 14.

How silly of me.

[JonG]

Congratulations, you're now on ignore.
Get the sand out of your vagina missy.

[EADG]

Just shut the **** up EADG, seriously.


Hahaha.. umm.. no. Now you know how I feel when I read your posts, at least a few times a week. However, I usually know how to keep my mouth shut, because I know that there are certain times when simply, no one cares.

[EADG]

I forgot the cut-off age for music discussion was 14.

How silly of me.


I just think your time could be a little better spent. Maybe you could go play your bass, go out with some friends? I don't know.

[Phalanx]

You got me. :p

No, it's just my retarded camera. For some reason it always makes that clicking sound. I still haven't figured out how to get rid of it.

Hey Havic, I was wondering how exactly you get your tone so clean, what EQ pickup configurations do you use?

[Sade]

Hahaha.. umm.. no. Now you know how I feel when I read your posts, at least a few times a week. However, I usually know how to keep my mouth shut, because I know that there are certain times when simply, no one cares.

What posts? I've made no posts since my unbanning outside this thread that could warrent those feelings. Unless of course you consider listing off preamps and poweramps to be incredibly annoying. In which case you should probably leave.

If you're talking about this thread, I was simply stating in the most respectful way I could, (because frankly I do respect HaVIC's skill) that I find in advanced theory knowledge, musicality is lost. I was using HaVIC as a medium for that assumption. That respect was of course lost when you came in and started accusing me of being jealous or whatever dumbass reason you think so enlightened.

[Riouken]

Wow, I mean.... wow.

How could some people (mentioning no names of course) bend to social pressures as much as that.


I mean... really.

[Jimbobntnr]

wow, not everyone is going to like the same music. As I stated previously the playing was great. Great. But the song selection is not one that is going to be appreciated by all. really. It's a rag song, challenging to play but not what everyone wants to hear. I'm not sure that pleasing everyone was Havic's intent anyway.

[Phalanx]

I was simply stating in the most respectful way I could, (because frankly I do respect HaVIC's skill) that I find in advanced theory knowledge, musicality is lost.

How incredibly uninteresting.

That's really respectful

[Sade]

That's really respectful

How is it not? It isn't interesting to me at all, which is my point. Funny how you leave out my further explanation throughout the rest of the thread in an effort to make me look bad.

[Sade]

Just to clarify my point here:

I totally agree with theory being helpful. I mean, we're musicians, right? Theory is the complex understanding of sounds and how they work. No doubt it is helpful.

What I'm seeing a trend in, though; is the use of theory so vividly that it actually starts to detract from the simple "beauty" of things. I'm referring just to this forum and the people who post on it, though; not anywhere else. Just to clear that up.

jeez Sade, you're such an asshole.

[Phalanx]

How is it not? It isn't interesting to me at all, which is my point. Funny how you leave out my further explanation throughout the rest of the thread in an effort to make me look bad.

actually, i haven't read further because i'm too lazy...

Still, why don't you delete that post since it's so controversial.

Why haven't you ignored me?

[Sade]

actually, i haven't read further because i'm too lazy...

Still, why don't you delete that post since it's so controversial.

Why haven't you ignored me?

I'm not going to delete a post that I think to be valid because you do not agree with its reasoning.

[Phalanx]

I'm not going to delete a post that I think to be valid because you do not agree with its reasoning.

meh, just like i'm not going to read an entire thread which should just be about congratulating and giving advice to a bass player

[darrell]

This thread was once about the Maple Leaf Rag and two-handed tapping, believe it or not.

[Sade]

meh, just like i'm not going to read an entire thread which should just be about congratulating and giving advice to a bass player

You're not going to read the thread? Ok. Then try not calling me down on something you just admitted to knowing nothing about.

[Sade]

This thread was once about the Maple Leaf Rag and two-handed tapping, believe it or not.

People like to call me a jealous asshole for not being social.

Oh well.

[Jimbobntnr]

meh, just like i'm not going to read an entire thread which should just be about congratulating and giving advice to a bass player
123, sade. we should shield this young man from reality and let him figure it out for himself when he gets into the real world.

[Sade]

123, sade. we should shield this young man from reality and let him figure it out for himself when he gets into the real world.

He's from the UK. They don't experience reality over there.

[Tryxx]

Let's recap: It's taken 5 pages for people to learn that Sade finds the music uninteresting because of personal tastes. w00t. How about not being an asshole on both sides and just shut the **** up about it, and get on with the constructive criticism?

[thelowsoundofbass]

that was very impressive, i want to learn to tap like that but i doubt that ill ever be that good. sade and everyone else that is arguing pointlessly, just be quite and get back on topic before a good thread gets closed

lowsound

[Sade]

Let's recap: It's taken 5 pages for people to learn that Sade finds the music uninteresting because of personal tastes. w00t. How about not being an asshole on both sides and just shut the **** up about it, and get on with the constructive criticism?

Thank you so much.

You will now recieve an emoticon heart, made famous by the MySpace scene kids.

<3

[Phalanx]

I really wanna know how Havic gets his tone, I dig it

[sheephead]

Good job havic, that's jaw droppingly awesome man. Seems the conklin is at home in your hands. :thumb:

[Jim Hull]

Not to my taste but impressive none the less.

[burtonbassist_101]

very very nice havic :thumb:

i enjoyed that quite a bit...well played, very catchy

good job

[ranger_duex]

RAAWRRRR!!!!!

I HATE YOU ALL!

Oh damn, too late....





/sarcasm

[gregulus]

I enjoyed it, man. Good playing.

[naut]

i'm not usually into stuff like that, but hey, i thought it was neat.

[faelun]

wow nicely done Havic5 grats

[Left Shoe]

i dont like the song, but very impressive

[DNAsWhiteShadow]

I enjoyed the song. I have begun to enjoy the thought more and more of getting back to the old school music roots.

[The Maggot]

you were o, but that video of the kid playing canon in d on guitar just blew you away and got my undivided attention

[darrell]

you were o, but that video of the kid playing canon in d on guitar just blew you away and got my undivided attention

You really think so? He had a nice tone, but it wasn't THAT great. A lot of his notes were blah-sounding.

[bass&cookies]

parts were a bit boring, but mostly i found it rather catchy.
i know i have heard that before. on a video game, i think
i think it was an old tom & jerry game on my snes

[HaVIC5]

You really think so? He had a nice tone, but it wasn't THAT great. A lot of his notes were blah-sounding.

The arrangement at least is good. The original is boring and uninspired. I have no idea why it's so popular.

[Munky_Jam]

Hey Havic I hate to say it but you've gotten even better. Man when i first signed on here a few years ago, you just kicked my head in with your various tapping. I still don't like tapping music and think it by and large fairly useless to me as i really only enjoy playing in a band setting and have no desire to pursue solo bassmanship (not to be confused with loving playing solos that i do), but i still really enjoy the majority of your pieces.
Well done man

[MasterofBass]

NIICE!!!

I really liike that song, and what you did with the tapping is great!

:thumb: :thumb:

[Munky_Jam]

I do kind of agree with the piano comment though, and thats generally why i don't like tapping, its trying to do asimilar job to piano but not as good GENERALLY Havic however you are cool

[Sade]

The arrangement at least is good. The original is boring and uninspired. I have no idea why it's so popular.

I actually laughed out loud at that. Haha, kudos. :thumb:

[Yman]

awesome stuff.

[fingerstyle]

Really good stuff, Havic. Joplin is the shiznitz, but my fave is the Entertainer... it's just sooo... soo.. ragtime!

[:amaze:]

"You're not Adam Neely in the slightest. You probably stand for everything Adam Neely does not, and therefore you are his mortal enemy. You are likely one of the following - environmentalist, vegatarian, hippy, goth, dumbass in general or a dead baby. You make Adam Neely sick. "

lolz.




:amaze:

[iceman3019]

a bit to boring and technical for me, but a nice take nonetheless :thumb: . . .


















PS: i liked your version of charlie parker's "donna lee" better, do more stuff like it :p . . .

[irishslappop]

well i thought it was awesome, i dont understand why he is getting flack for transcribing a song and playing it. and for anyone who says that the song means nothing, rag-time, thought it didn't last long, brought us from classical music to more contemporay, swing and jazz. its also the song the ice cream man plays, so stfu.

[super deluxe]

I actually didn't think the tempo was too quick. The oldest recordings I've heard of it were even a bit faster. Bit of a historic choice, for sure.

[Mailman]

Typical honkeys with their straight notes and speed.

[Linkinbassist]

Why is Havic so good at tapping...?!?

Good job, Havic, i love it...!

[Mailman]

Why is Havic so good at tapping...?!?

Good job, Havic, i love it...!
Because he practices a lot?

[fingerstyle]

Didn't he play piano a lot before he picked up bass? That would explain the proficency in part of his tapping technique, the finger and hand independance.

[HaVIC5]

"You're not Adam Neely in the slightest. You probably stand for everything Adam Neely does not, and therefore you are his mortal enemy. You are likely one of the following - environmentalist, vegatarian, hippy, goth, dumbass in general or a dead baby. You make Adam Neely sick. "

lolz.




:amaze:
Haha, most of the quiz is assuming you know me personally or at least live near me. Otherwise, you won't get some of the jokes. :thumb:

[Az_Holl]

Haha, most of the quiz is assuming you know me personally or at least live near me. Otherwise, you won't get some of the jokes. :thumb:
I am somwhat Adam Neely...so, you masturbate 4-6 times a week? :lol:

[Sade]

You know what's funny?

I just re-listened to it. For some reason, maybe my computer speakers were crappy before? But it sounded much better. That wasn't nearly as boring as I originally thought it was. Sure, it's still not exactly my cup of tea, but your technique is just so god damn amazing it makes up for it.

You really should do something a little more contemporary, that'd be fun.

[Duncster]

After reading the first two pages (I couldn't stand to read anymore of sades bullshit remarks) I've come to a couple conclusions.
1) Havic rules
2) Sades a ****ING MORON

Now I'm going to try and not enter this thread again so I don't have to argue with sade for an hour.

[Sade]

After reading the first two pages (I couldn't stand to read anymore of sades bullshit remarks) I've come to a couple conclusions.
1) Havic rules
2) Sades a ****ING MORON

Now I'm going to try and not enter this thread again so I don't have to argue with sade for an hour.

D00d ur juz jealous LOMYALE.

[Duncster]

....
well played


:p

[Left Shoe]

....
well played


:p
you said you werent coming back O_O

[Duncster]

I said I would try and not enter it so I wouldnt have to argue with sade. I saw he replied so I checked and it wasn't an argument so I replied.

[irishslappop]

THE ICE CREAM MAN. does the ice cream man only play this song in my area? its probably why i love it so much.

[Tryxx]

After reading the first two pages (I couldn't stand to read anymore of sades bullshit remarks) I've come to a couple conclusions.
1) Havic rules
2) Sades a ****ING MORON

Now I'm going to try and not enter this thread again so I don't have to argue with sade for an hour.

I should ban you for ignorance. Seriously, read the thread. ESPECIALLY if you're going to make some shitty insulting remark.

[Chameleon]

I should ban you for ignorance. Seriously, read the thread. ESPECIALLY if you're going to make some shitty insulting remark.

Don't worry Tryxx, i've never seen the guy before and I already know he's a dumb****. Let's not hold it against him, some people are just born that way.

[Tryxx]

Don't worry Tryxx, i've never seen the guy before and I already know he's a dumb****. Let's not hold it against him, some people are just born that way.

He's been around awhile. I know him... it's just annoying that we had 5 pages of stuff already said, then get it quiet... but 'lo and behold, someone who reads TWO pages trys to screw that up. Just annoying.

[Chameleon]

He's been around awhile. I know him... it's just annoying that we had 5 pages of stuff already said, then get it quiet... but 'lo and behold, someone who reads TWO pages trys to screw that up. Just annoying.

I feel your pain. And as a result, I feel I should be granted a modship.

[MyFriendOfMisery]

Great tapping, although its not my type of music.
I also liked the guitar video right below it.

[Manticore Guy]

Very nice Havic, like all of your work.

[Sade]

He's been around awhile. I know him... it's just annoying that we had 5 pages of stuff already said, then get it quiet... but 'lo and behold, someone who reads TWO pages trys to screw that up. Just annoying.

Tryxx, it's so painfully obvious he's just a social outcast and jealous of my amazing powers.

[Visti]

I admire your technique and your freaking dedication for memorizing that stuff and actually, it thought it was pretty entertaining the first time around. It just felt pretty repetitive and I couldn't watch it all the way through, but that's not your fault. Impressive, though, that's for sure.

[Akira]

This is compeltely unrelated, but Havic, were the the MXer who used to own the Fender Rhodes piano? I was wondering what they are worth.

[Visti]

Yeah, HaVic used to have a Fender Rhodes.

[Bass_guy333]

Haha, most of the quiz is assuming you know me personally or at least live near me. Otherwise, you won't get some of the jokes. :thumb:

Very nice dude, it sounds good, altho I lost my patience with youtube... Haha.

And PLEASE tell me I influenced you to do this...you know what piece I'm talking about :cool:

[HaVIC5]

You did, you did. :thumb: I wanted to at least be somewhat original so I took the other of the two famous Joplin rags and made it mine, rather than doing what you had done with the Entertainer.

[Bass_guy333]

You did, you did. :thumb: I wanted to at least be somewhat original so I took the other of the two famous Joplin rags and made it mine, rather than doing what you had done with the Entertainer.

Solid piece dude, it was a good call on the song choice. I haven't played the Entertainer in a while either.

[YDload]

Nice job Havic. I haven't listened to one of your performances in a while, so it was nice to see you turn a 7-string bass into an electric piano with one of the most famous songs ever. I don't really care about theory or lack of emotion that Sade was decrying, I just wanted to see something impressive. You've already accomplished so much in terms of technical feats that eventually you'll have to take a different direction and start making truly beautiful music. One that will silence all the doubters :)

[kilian]

Two thumbs up for the amazement :thumb: :thumb:

Altough I will only watch it a few times because I didn't like the song, I can not say other than: that was great.

[popinfresh]

Nice work havic, very solid. Enjoyed it alot, my teacher was running through entertainer the other day with me..

I do find it funny though, that even after all this time gone by, Sade is still here being an unhelpful arsehat, who has no life (at least it seems) and nothing better to do other than insulting others on the internet in a lame effort to get attention directed towards himself.

Must have real emotional problems.. Get out there and enjoy life sade, no need to be a negative sad sack all the time :)

I thought he would of grown up by now.. (My opinion of course.. That's what this place is for right?) ;)

[Sade]

Nice work havic, very solid. Enjoyed it alot, my teacher was running through entertainer the other day with me..

I do find it funny though, that even after all this time gone by, Sade is still here being an unhelpful arsehat, who has no life (at least it seems) and nothing better to do other than insulting others on the internet in a lame effort to get attention directed towards himself.

Must have real emotional problems.. Get out there and enjoy life sade, no need to be a negative sad sack all the time :)

I thought he would of grown up by now.. (My opinion of course.. That's what this place is for right?) ;)

Feel better now that you've dropped your ignorant little 2 cents in?

I'll ask you to please explain where, in this thread, I was being "an unhelpful arsehat" before several individuals started throwing idiotic claims around with absolutely no logical backing other than the fact they don't "agree" with my opinion. Seems to me I was simply proclaiming a general observation on the music. (that I admitted with a decent level of humility). A simple observation was all it was: the topic of theory being readily persued to no end, creating un-interesting music.

I've praised HaVIC in all the areas I feel he deserves as a player, stating he is a more acomplished player, both technically and theoretically, than I am. Also, I've stated several valid justifications as to the logistics of my arguement, where-as you people have done nothing but throw childish insults at me.

Yeah, you're soooo the better person. I think I'll keep my isolation, thanks.

[Alma]

Shane? on MX?

haha.

[martin_sane]

Feel better now that you've dropped your ignorant little 2 cents in?

I'll ask you to please explain where, in this thread, I was being "an unhelpful arsehat" before several individuals started throwing idiotic claims around with absolutely no logical backing other than the fact they don't "agree" with my opinion. Seems to me I was simply proclaiming a general observation on the music. (that I admitted with a decent level of humility). A simple observation was all it was: the topic of theory being readily persued to no end, creating un-interesting music.

I've praised HaVIC in all the areas I feel he deserves as a player, stating he is a more acomplished player, both technically and theoretically, than I am. Also, I've stated several valid justifications as to the logistics of my arguement, where-as you people have done nothing but throw childish insults at me.

Yeah, you're soooo the better person. I think I'll keep my isolation, thanks.

You said it was boring and said that someone who is accomplished in theory tends to make boring music when in fact, Havic was just reciting a piece of music that he didnt even write?

THEN you're completely rude to everyone who dares to challenge you and your internet tough guy-ery. It's not big and it's not clever - random insults from some anonymous person are just laughable. Grow up please, it's really childish. Maybe you could go get laid or get some friends or something.

I do agree with your general comment though, ive never found 'technical' music very interesting, stuff like instrumental jazz or even Vai and Satriani sound so bland.

I can still congratulate Havic on his awesome technique though :chug: - although i did like his band stuff a lot more than the joplin cover.

[Sade]

You said it was boring and said that someone who is accomplished in theory tends to make boring music when in fact, Havic was just reciting a piece of music that he didnt even write?

THEN you're completely rude to everyone who dares to challenge you and your internet tough guy-ery. It's not big and it's not clever - random insults from some anonymous person are just laughable. Grow up please, it's really childish. Maybe you could go get laid or get some friends or something.

I do agree with your general comment though, ive never found 'technical' music very interesting, stuff like instrumental jazz or even Vai and Satriani sound so bland.

I can still congratulate Havic on his awesome technique though :chug: - although i did like his band stuff a lot more than the joplin cover.

I am not completely rude to those who challenge something I say in a respectable and intelligible manner. Darrell is one example. Does he jump all over me for having that opinion? No, he attempts to explain his case in a way that's conductive to a musician. What about you? Saying I don't have friends or telling me to go get laid? What the **** does that have to do with anything? You think yourself so superior morally to me, yet you say crap like that? You tell me to grow up, and then tell me to "go get laid?"

You know what I say to that?

I say shut the **** up.

Why do I say this vulgar, rude comment? Because it's all you deserve for your blatant lack of decency. If you read the thread, you'll notice I gave equal respect to anybody who expressed general respect towards my opinion. It's how I work. I'm only giving you what you give me.

It's only until people come in here, telling me "I'm just jealous lawl!" or "omg go get laid LOMYALE!" that I get a little irritated. I don't see why you're putting this all on me. Probably because I'm significantly outnumbered. I only become bitter when people are complete morons. People were complete morons in this thread.

And guess what? You're no exception. You probably didn't even read the thread, just the recent posts completely bashing me for idiotic reasons.

[Sade]

On a side note, I'd like to proclaim that I wasn't really referring to the piece HaVIC performed touchstyle, (in all honesty, it impressed the crap out of me. But impressing me really doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy listening to it.) I was simply using him as a medium to express my opinion on the theory masters of this forum. I've explained that already. If you read the thread, guess what? You'd know that. I've explained myself about 5 times already about the same stuff to the same type of people who neglect to read any of the thread but what they see of people tearing me down.

[Chameleon]

http://www.funny-games.biz/pictures/owned/cycle-owned.jpg

[Pastorius]

Jeez, someone close this thread already.

I'm on Sade's side

[BassVirtuoso]

I have an idea let's have the same argument over again that will be so productive and everyone will realize how helpful you're being by doing it good idea guys I'm so glad you thought of it because I wouldn't have

[Duncster]

Bassguy do you have that recording of the entertainer still? Or did you make one? I checked you soundclick but didnt find it.

[Bass_guy333]

Bassguy do you have that recording of the entertainer still? Or did you make one? I checked you soundclick but didnt find it.

I played it live in a YIM jam, I don't think I ever recorded it though.

[snewo531]

Havic, dont listen to the nay-sayers, that was awesome. And for the record, i do like the song.

[YDload]

On a side note, I'd like to proclaim that I wasn't really referring to the piece HaVIC performed touchstyle, (in all honesty, it impressed the crap out of me. But impressing me really doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy listening to it.) I was simply using him as a medium to express my opinion on the theory masters of this forum. I've explained that already. If you read the thread, guess what? You'd know that. I've explained myself about 5 times already about the same stuff to the same type of people who neglect to read any of the thread but what they see of people tearing me down.

In all honesty, I can understand that because sometimes I tend to go off on a tangent when typing up posts, and it ends up confusing people because they think I'm referring to them. But really, I was probably just turning my post into some other topic that's been on my mind for a while.

Maybe you should make a separate thread for discussion on why too much theory is bad :)

[boblikesjazz]

oh man we need more threads like this

I really don't care about being rude or insulting to Sade, particularly as he has no idea how ignorant his original statements were.

[YDload]

oh man we need more threads like this

I really don't care about being rude or insulting to Sade, particularly as he has no idea how ignorant his original statements were.

You shouldn't keep trying to bring this flame war back to life. Your comments are just going to start more **** so you should probably just shhh!

[pukeboy66]

oh man we need more threads like this

I really don't care about being rude or insulting to Sade, particularly as he has no idea how ignorant his original statements were.



........why the hell?

[BassVirtuoso]

oh man we need more threads like this

I really don't care about being rude or insulting to Sade, particularly as he has no idea how ignorant his original statements were.

Please ban this idiot.

[Sade]

oh man we need more threads like this

I really don't care about being rude or insulting to Sade, particularly as he has no idea how ignorant his original statements were.

Let's see if you can understand this, you arrogant little piece of ****:

Shut the **** up.

[boblikesjazz]

lolz

u really dont have a clue

[Sade]

lolz

u really dont have a clue

Yeah? Well, I guess this entire forum doesn't, either. So...hey! Here's an idea.

Leave.

[boblikesjazz]

Being a guitar player means I'm not here much anyway.

edit: Excessive knowledge of theory is exceptionally crippling, IMO.umm the entire Western classical tradition means you're wrong.

[Sade]

Being a guitar player means I'm not here much anyway.

edit: umm the entire Western classical tradition means you're wrong.

Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you left.

Bye-bye, douchenugget.

[YDload]

Too late, looks like we've got renewed hostilities in this thread :(

The only positive thing is that more people will see the video again.

[boblikesjazz]

i think you ignored my point

[BassVirtuoso]

i think you ignored my point

The point is that you play guitar and know nothing about the bass so stfu and gtfo.

[YDload]

i think you ignored my point

everything about you should be ignored http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/profile.php?do=addlist&userlist=ignore&u=216153

[boblikesjazz]

The point is that you play guitar and know nothing about the bass so stfu and gtfo.this isn't really about bass. Well done.

[BassVirtuoso]

The thread about a bass player playing a song on a bass has nothing to do with bass. Ok I get it.

[muthafunkabass]

this isn't really about bass. Well done.
You're annoying.

[boblikesjazz]

The thread about a bass player playing a song on a bass has nothing to do with bass. Ok I get it.No you don't, actually.

Keep trying.

[muthafunkabass]

No you don't, actually.

Keep trying.
No you dont? He wasnt talking about himself at all.:confused:

what do you want him to keep trying?

Btw, Bass Virtusuo, if you dont mind me asking, why did you step down from mod?


P.S. Havic i think i never commented. Obviously it was amazing. The ending was really cool when you combined the the two parts of the song.

[BassVirtuoso]

I'm just not mod material :thumb:

[pukeboy66]

No you dont? He wasnt talking about himself at all.:confused:


OK i get it

yep...

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

No you dont? He wasnt talking about himself at all.

what do you want him to keep trying?wtf try reading

[muthafunkabass]

That's cool. I was just wondering.

EDIT: to virtusuo

[muthafunkabass]

yep...
thanks i didnt see that last part.

wtf try reading
you were banned why cant you just deal with it and wait until your ban is over?

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

you were banned why cant you just deal with it and wait until your ban is over?because I have numerous other accounts which take all off 10 seconds to log on to.

[muthafunkabass]

because I have numerous other accounts which take all off 10 seconds to log on to.
why do you have so many accounts? One of them was banned so obviously you're not supposed to be here utnil the ban is over. Why is this forum so important in your life?

[BassVirtuoso]

Don't even ban him this time, let's just put him on our ignore lists.

[muthafunkabass]

i could never put anyone on my ignore list, it would just pop-up and say "read post" and i would be too tempted to click it.

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

Why is this forum so important in your life?ono im a noob irl, u win

[EADG]

Grow up you guys.

[Sade]

Grow up you guys.

You're just jealous.

[EADG]

You're just jealous.


That's good for a laugh.

[irishslappop]

You're just jealous.
damnit, i saw your name in the "last post by 'Sade'" and i had planed to respond to what ever you said with "stfu your just jealous."

good job ****ing up my day asshole.

[fingerstyle]

And yet another good intentioned Bass Forum thread falls into a stinking pile of flaming and immaturity.

[Chameleon]

You're just jealous.

Hey sexy. Let's turn this thread into a Casual and see how long it takes us to get bitched at. If they threaten to ban us, we can just say we were testing to see how thoroughly the mods check the threads.

[irishslappop]

If they threaten to ban us, we can just say we were testing to see how thoroughly the mods check the threads.
like we always do?

[Chameleon]

like we always do?

You know :) Except this time it's better because...I dunno...I guess it's not really any better...


Ok, i'm lame, ****ing sue me. A small fat man tried to sue me once. I laughed at him.

[irishslappop]

did you oink at him? if i was fat i would find someone oinking at me to be very damaging.

[Sade]

I'm watching internet porn right now, Bob. I can't be bothered to spam!

[nowhesingsnowhesobs]

i can

[Chameleon]

I'm watching internet porn right now, Bob. I can't be bothered to spam!


Oh come on, gimme some e-sugar. At least tell us what genre's this porn encompasses?

@irish: Well it wasn't quite like that. On my bands website, I put a complete blank, white page simply saying "John's gay.". He sent me a 'formal' e-mail saying he would assault me with legal action for 'slander' and various other things. He misspelled half the e-mail and it didn't make sense for the most part. I sent him a very long, very formal e-mail back which I believe culminated in something like "So suck my balls.".

My sister's a lawyer, I got all the jargon from her.

[irishslappop]

nicely done. i yelled at a man a 10" shorter then me once. i got fired for it though.
on that note. im out.

[Sade]

Oh come on, gimme some e-sugar. At least tell us what genre's this animal photographs encompasses?

@irish: Well it wasn't quite like that. On my bands website, I put a complete blank, white page simply saying "John's gay.". He sent me a 'formal' e-mail saying he would assault me with legal action for 'slander' and various other things. He misspelled half the e-mail and it didn't make sense for the most part. I sent him a very long, very formal e-mail back which I believe culminated in something like "So suck my balls.".

My sister's a lawyer, I got all the jargon from her.

What's that? You wrote a letter to Spring Thomas saying you want to take over for her? What?!?