View Full Version : Keyboards do not belong in metal, no matter what
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 04:46 PM
Do you agree or disagree? Do you think keyboards totally ruin metal or can enhance and improve metal? Any examples good or bad on how keyboards can change the sound?
Cocaine
02-03-2006, 04:48 PM
I think that's a totally ignorant statement. Keyboards if used properly totally enhance the music.
Kingofdudes
02-03-2006, 04:52 PM
Nigga please
Keyboards and Synths add a lot to bands. The keyboardist is the only good thing about Children of Bodom.
Keyboard solos in Dream Theater own.
/thread
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 04:55 PM
I think that's a totally ignorant statement. Keyboards if used properly totally enhance the music.
Of course it is an ignorant statement, but usefull in gathering opinions.
I could also say "The best music made was in the 70's" an ignorant statement but will gather lots of opinions.
Doctor Night
02-03-2006, 04:55 PM
I completely disagree.
Drunken Viking
02-03-2006, 04:58 PM
Keyboards can be good for music, but can also **** it up bad.
Cocaine
02-03-2006, 04:58 PM
So you're basically admitting to being ignorant now?
I dont know what you hope to accomplish with this thread, seriously.
Loverman519
02-03-2006, 04:58 PM
call me ignorant, fine, but i agree 100%. the sound of keyboards in metal just dont do anything for me, period. thats MY opinion.
xizoesira
02-03-2006, 05:00 PM
Keyboards can be in any genre because it's up to the artist what instruments they want to use in their presentation.
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 05:01 PM
So you're basically admitting to being ignorant now?
I dont know what you hope to accomplish with this thread, seriously.
No.......you don't get it
TojesDolan
02-03-2006, 05:01 PM
I wonder who will be the first one to say that keyboards ruined Opeth.
I wonder.
Anyhow, depends a lot on the band, but usually the more instruments, the least you notice a band is bad. You know, quantity-quality issues and that.
AA-12
02-03-2006, 05:04 PM
Keyboards can be in any genre because it's up to the artist what instruments they want to use in their presentation.
Exactly.
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:04 PM
Nigga please
Keyboards and Synths add a lot to bands. The keyboardist is the only good thing about Children of Bodom.
Are you ****ing high?
I'd break your neck if I see you in person. haha. no ****.
That's one of the most ignorant things I've read on here.
Of course it is an ignorant statement, but usefull in gathering opinions.
You could have just asked instead of making yourself seem like a moron.
Are you ****ing high?
Shut up. He's entitled to an opinion.
Cocaine
02-03-2006, 05:07 PM
No.......you don't get it
No, I don't, and I'm pretty sure I said that. You went and made a bold statement with nothing to back it up.
I personally think keyboards add depth to a band, unless of course the keyboardist is terrible. I think the Keys/Moog/Etc added a whole new dimension to Opeth, in a good way.
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:10 PM
You could have just asked instead of making yourself seem like a moron.
Shut up. He's entitled to an opinion.
His opinion is based on nothing. It's just trash.
MRDuCran
02-03-2006, 05:10 PM
I think Janne Warmen is an incredible keyboardist and adds alot to CoBs sound, even if he doesn't write some of it.
I dislike the overuse of the choir "ahhs" in black metal though.
His opinion is based on nothing. It's just trash.
You don't seem to base your opinions on anything either, IMO.
I dislike the overuse of the choir "ahhs" in black metal though.
Especially synth "ahhs". They sound really artificial and fake and take away a lot of potential from the songs.
paranoid923
02-03-2006, 05:14 PM
Keyboards can be great if used correctly, but can get cheezy and annoying if done wrong. Like any instrument, it depends on the user. For example, the keyboard use in Arcturus adds a ton to their music.
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 05:16 PM
No, I don't, and I'm pretty sure I said that. You went and made a bold statement with nothing to back it up.
I personally think keyboards add depth to a band, unless of course the keyboardist is terrible. I think the Keys/Moog/Etc added a whole new dimension to Opeth, in a good way.
You know what devil's advocate is??
I may be interested in buying a Fender P Bass, I can go to the bass forum and make a statement like "Fender P basses have a terrible tone" about 3 hours later there is a lot of usefull info stating the opposite. It is a usefull tool to gather info. I have gathered some info in this thread already so it has served its purpose.
I like:
Jordan Rudess
Rick Wakeman
Ray Manzarek
Pigpen
Keith Godchaux
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Keyboards can be great if used correctly, but can get cheezy and annoying if done wrong. Like any instrument, it depends on the user. For example, the keyboard use in Arcturus adds a ton to their music.
Arcturus is amazing. I only have sideshow symphonies though.
Kingofdudes
02-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Are you ****ing high?
I'd break your neck if I see you in person. haha. no ****.
That's one of the most ignorant things I've read on here.
No, I'm quite educated. Sorry if you don't like my opinion fanboy.
Aakon_Keetreh
02-03-2006, 05:19 PM
i disagree
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:20 PM
No, I'm quite educated. Sorry if you don't like my opinion fanboy.
Then explain how Alexi is not a amazing guitarist?
Is Roope just junk?
Jaska as well?
You live in mississippi so I don't know why anyone would take you seriously
No, I'm quite educated. Sorry if you don't like my opinion fanboy.
123
He's right :smoke:
Alexi isn't that "amazing" at guitar.
He sucks at singing.
Cocaine
02-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Then explain how Alexi is not a amazing guitarist?
Is Roope just junk?
Jaska as well?
You live in mississippi so I don't know why anyone would take you seriously
He never said Alexi wasn't talented, he said he feels the keyboards are the best part. It's called an opinion. You really should stop talking, you're digging yourself into a hole, especially with that last comment.
Kingofdudes
02-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Then explain how Alexi is not a amazing guitarist?
Is Roope just junk?
Jaska as well?
You live in mississippi so I don't know why anyone would take you seriously
Wait.... your calling me ignorant?
You know what devil's advocate is??
I may be interested in buying a Fender P Bass, I can go to the bass forum and make a statement like "Fender P basses have a terrible tone" about 3 hours later there is a lot of usefull info stating the opposite. It is a usefull tool to gather info. I have gathered some info in this thread already so it has served its purpose.
Wouldn't it be easier to just ASK us if we like keyboards in metal?
You live in mississippi so I don't know why anyone would take you seriously
You are really ****ing stupid.
Aarons, ftw!
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:22 PM
123
He's right :smoke:
Alexi isn't that "amazing" at guitar.
He sucks at singing.
Actaully his vocals are pretty solid on most songs.
Permanent Solution
02-03-2006, 05:22 PM
Art is art.
I don't care if you use your dick to draw a picture using blood on sheets. If it works it works.
Oh boy that was fun.
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:23 PM
Art is art.
I don't care if you use your dick to draw a picture using blood on sheets. If it works it works.
Oh boy that was fun.
That was a wonderful mental image :p
Cocaine
02-03-2006, 05:24 PM
I'll agree with the Arcturus statement. The keys in "Kinetic", for example, make the song.
You're playing Devil's Advocate? What's the point? This is a (for the most) well informed bunch of people, it would really just be easy and more commendable to just come out and say what you want to know.
TheDMV
02-03-2006, 05:24 PM
Keyboards have a place in metal. Guitars have a place in metal. Violins have a place in metal. Harmonicas have a place in metal. There's a place for everything, and someone will find that place.
The point is, if it sounds good, someone will figure it out, and use it.
PepsiMetal
02-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Dragonforce anyone?
Steerpike
02-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Personally, I think keyboards are no different from guitars. If you have an incompetent musician behind the instrument, it's going to suck.
Conversely, if you have someone with talent and a good feel for style, it's going to be awesome.
That said, certain music doesn't require certain elements.
Let's take for example Rhapsody. Love 'em or hate 'em, the keyboards are an integral part of their sound and add a dynamic to the music that you couldn't get with any other instrument.
On the flip side of the coin, I think everyone can agree that Saint Vitus are a band that really don't need keyboards because it wouldn't fit in with their sound.
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Keyboards have a place in metal. Guitars have a place in metal. Violins have a place in metal. Harmonicas have a place in metal. There's a place for everything, and someone will find that place.
The point is, if it sounds good, someone will figure it out, and use it.
Well said.
Anything can be used well or abused.
Cocaine
02-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Actaully his vocals are pretty solid on most songs.
I'd actually completely disagree. His vocals are the only reason I don't listen to Bodom. See, it's an opinion, what a concept.
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:25 PM
Dragonforce anyone?
Yes! :thumb:
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 05:26 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to just ASK us if we like keyboards in metal?
I could, but this way works just as well.
devils advocate
One who argues against a popular cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply to make people discuss and consider it in more detail. ...
Kingofdudes
02-03-2006, 05:26 PM
I'd actually completely disagree. His vocals are the only reason I don't listen to Bodom. See, it's an opinion, what a concept.
Ill break your neck for that statement lolololol
Permanent Solution
02-03-2006, 05:28 PM
That was a wonderful mental image :p
Yes, but the most succinct answer I could conceive. I don't care how you make the music, if it sounds good and I like it, I listen. Period.
Knifeboy
02-03-2006, 05:31 PM
The fact that keyboards can sound exactly like a guitar (see Dream Theater) completely ruins any room for discussion
I could, but this way works just as well.
Ah, but you see, this way also leaves a bad first impression among many users.
I'm Charming
02-03-2006, 05:35 PM
Ah, but you see, this way also leaves a bad first impression among many users.
Asking that just results in a flamefest.
These threads always turn into flamefests.
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 05:43 PM
You're playing Devil's Advocate? What's the point? This is a (for the most) well informed bunch of people, it would really just be easy and more commendable to just come out and say what you want to know.
I hear ya, sometimes I use devil's advocate on message boards. It is a usefull tool. More often than not I actually ask the question straight out. I have had to write 5-10 page papers arguing the opposite side of my original opinion...and it is quite interesting.
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 05:50 PM
Ah, but you see, this way also leaves a bad first impression among many users.
First Impressions:lol: :lol: Unless I am on your payroll, or have financial connections to you.....I could care less what your first impressions of me are!!
Jacaranda
02-03-2006, 05:50 PM
Ah, but you see, this way also leaves a bad first impression among many users.
He has a point. People would put more effort in getting a point across if I made a thread called "The Beatles Suck" then if I made a thread called "Beatles Rule"...
If I made a Beatles Suck thread I'm sure I'd get 10 people within 5 mins with a ten sentence reply about how good they are, rather then 10 people in 5 hours going, "Ya, they are good" with different words.
TheDMV
02-03-2006, 05:53 PM
First Impressions:lol: :lol: Unless I am on your payroll, or have financial connections to you.....I could care less what your first impressions of me are!!
You've made some valid points, but theses posts just make you lose credibility.
Nostalgia
02-03-2006, 05:53 PM
It's really up to the band, if they can make it work and sound good then keyboards should belong in metal. Take Nightwish for example.
Scuba_Steve
02-03-2006, 05:54 PM
Asking that just results in a flamefest.
These threads always turn into flamefests.
mainly cause of people like you.
Honestly, maybe if people could discuss topics like this and remain civil at the same time.
the_uber_penguin
02-03-2006, 05:57 PM
As long as the keyboards don't overpower the song, I think they can add a lot of depth and texture to the sound, and a lot of interest to the arrangement.
guitrguy
02-03-2006, 05:58 PM
mainly cause of people like you.
Honestly, maybe if people could discuss topics like this and remain civil at the same time.
:lol: I couldnt agree more.
Keyboards don't belong in metal if you don't like harmonies and addition of more musical character.
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 06:02 PM
You've made some valid points, but theses posts just make you lose credibility.
Credibility with people who don't know me, probably will never meet me or handle my immediate intrests. You would'nt know who I was if you met me.
I lose nothing of real importance.
This is just a computer screen at my house that I gain info from.
i am the robots
02-03-2006, 06:04 PM
Do you agree or disagree? Do you think keyboards totally ruin metal or can enhance and improve metal? Any examples good or bad on how keyboards can change the sound?
Anybody who says keyboards don't belong is an idiot... just a small list of some favorites... Odin's Forest, Children Of Bodom, Norther, Kalmah, In Flames, Opeth, Nightwish, Peccatum, Eternal Tears Of Sorrow, Dark Tranquillity, Soilwork, etc.
guitrguy
02-03-2006, 06:07 PM
Credibility with people who don't know me, probably will never meet me or handle my immediate intrests. You would'nt know who I was if you met me.
I lose nothing of real importance.
This is just a computer screen at my house that I gain info from.
Well good for you. You know how to point out the obvious.
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 06:08 PM
Anybody who says keyboards don't belong is an idiot... just a small list of some favorites... Odin's Forest, Children Of Bodom, Norther, Kalmah, In Flames, Opeth, Nightwish, Peccatum, Eternal Tears Of Sorrow, Dark Tranquillity, Soilwork, etc.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
RiceMonster
02-03-2006, 06:10 PM
Disagree 300%. Listen to The Raven and The Backwards Funeral by Skepticism and tell me that song wouldn't be so ****ing heavy, gloomy and just all around awesome with the meanicing church organ. That's just one small example. The amount that keyboards can add to bands is amazing. However, not all styles require this or would gain anything from keyboards.
Blizzink
02-03-2006, 06:15 PM
According to VH1's metal experts, no. I, however, enjoy their use from anything to ambience to full-out soloing in a song.
guitrguy
02-03-2006, 06:19 PM
According to VH1's metal experts, no. I, however, enjoy their use from anything to ambience to full-out soloing in a song.
VH1 knows nothing about metal. good 90% of there list are made up of Hair Metal bands.
Steerpike
02-03-2006, 06:21 PM
According to VH1's metal experts, no. I, however, enjoy their use from anything to ambience to full-out soloing in a song.
VH1's "experts" can jam rabid weasels up their *** for all I care. They have about as much authority to speak on metal as Zakk Wylde does about politics.
Unless I am on your payroll, or have financial connections to you.....I could care less what your first impressions of me are!!
Well, now I think you're a moron and that I shouldn't listen to your opinions because they don't seem valid to me.
He has a point. People would put more effort in getting a point across if I made a thread called "The Beatles Suck" then if I made a thread called "Beatles Rule"...
If I made a Beatles Suck thread I'm sure I'd get 10 people within 5 mins with a ten sentence reply about how good they are, rather then 10 people in 5 hours going, "Ya, they are good" with different words.
See, Jacaphallusmints could explain it better than you.
Britton
02-03-2006, 06:34 PM
VH1 knows nothing about metal. good 90% of there list are made up of Hair Metal bands.
That's true.
I think Keyboards are great for metal...I won't tell you why...but I think they are
TheDMV
02-03-2006, 06:41 PM
Credibility with people who don't know me, probably will never meet me or handle my immediate intrests. You would'nt know who I was if you met me.
I lose nothing of real importance.
This is just a computer screen at my house that I gain info from.
You should stop getting so defensive.
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3rdplanet
02-03-2006, 06:42 PM
nah, you need a Keytar if you're gonna be playing metal.
guitrguy
02-03-2006, 06:43 PM
nah, you need a Keytar if you're gonna be playing metal.
wow... I never thought about that.
touche
Whale and Wasp
02-03-2006, 06:45 PM
good metal songs with keyboards/piano:
opeth - silhouette
deep purple - lazy
ozzy - mr crowly
opeth - beneath the mire
Keyboards are awesome man, Wtf are you talking about?
NP: Vanden Plas - Crown Of Thorns (One of my favorite Keyboard pieces by a metal band)
xFEAR-AND-LOATHINGx
02-03-2006, 08:45 PM
depends, i think organs are cool
depends, i think organs are cool
Organs are awesome.....:naughty:
Nice username BTW fear and loathing in las vegas is such an amazing movie.
I love keyboards...for the perfect example of what keyboards do best in rock, listen to Porcupine Tree.
6stringslinger
02-03-2006, 10:16 PM
You should stop getting so defensive.
Thank You Dr.Phil, will you please sign this book for me?:wave:
Mr. Ron
02-03-2006, 10:17 PM
Keyboards can add a lot of atmosphere to the music if used properly.
I don't really like keyboards in metal. I don't think it has a strong enough sound that a heavily distorted guitar has. Sure the heavy metal bands have great keyboardists, but I don't think it should be a common metal thing.
slaughteredfirst
02-03-2006, 10:35 PM
Keyboards=ownage.
I think all of my favroite bands use them at least everyonce in a while.
Keyboards=ownage.
I think all of my favroite bands use them at least everyonce in a while.
That's the key. It's always interesting to hear a band that can incorporate several instruments into its music. I don't think it belongs in metal though; it's one of the reasons I'm not a huge Children of Bodom fan.
RiceMonster
02-03-2006, 10:45 PM
That's the key. It's always interesting to hear a band that can incorporate several instruments into its music. I don't think it belongs in metal though; it's one of the reasons I'm not a huge Children of Bodom fan.
I'm going to assume then you have no care for atmosphere or any sort of epic feeling.
slaughteredfirst
02-03-2006, 10:47 PM
That's the key. It's always interesting to hear a band that can incorporate several instruments into its music. I don't think it belongs in metal though; it's one of the reasons I'm not a huge Children of Bodom fan.
Yes once in a while is they key.
Or if it helps the music.
Good keyboards=Dark Tranqulility
Bad Keyboards=Bodom
I'm going to assume then you have no care for atmosphere or any sort of epic feeling.
Agreed 100 ****ing percent.
classicrockman
02-03-2006, 10:51 PM
Keyboards belong in metal. And like the guy above me said, there are bands with good keyboard playing (Dream Theater) and bad keyboard playing (Bodom).
Yes once in a while is they key.
Or if it helps the music.
Good keyboards=Dark Tranqulility
Bad Keyboards=Bodom
Sonata Arctica and Dream Theater have pretty awesome keys in them. The good thing about Sonata Arctica is that they don't use the keys all the time, which makes them so much better. If it helps out the music, then by all means use it. In most bands that I've heard it just makes the music more busy which doesn't usually mean good.
I'm going to assume then you have no care for atmosphere or any sort of epic feeling.
What are you talking about? I have care for "atomosphere" and "epic feeling" when it sounds good.
Most Metal = Bad keys.
Little Metal = Very well used keys
Steerpike
02-03-2006, 10:55 PM
Yes once in a while is they key.
Or if it helps the music.
Good keyboards=Dark Tranqulility
Bad Keyboards=Bodom
I actually like the keyboards in Children of Bodom. Adds a nice color to the music.
And you have to admit that Janne is one hell of a musician. I think it's great that in modern metal talented musicians other than the vocalists and guitarists can get a moment in the spotlight.
I actually like the keyboards in Children of Bodom. Adds a nice color to the music.
And you have to admit that Janne is one hell of a musician. I think it's great that in modern metal talented musicians other than the vocalists and guitarists can get a moment in the spotlight.
I agree with the second part of your statement, but in my opinion it doesn't go well with their music.
Keyboards belong in metal. And like the guy above me said, there are bands with good keyboard playing (Dream Theater) and bad keyboard playing (Bodom).
It's kind of in transition. Not many old metal bands (20 yrs ago) use keys but the ones lately have had keys in them (CoB, SA, DT, etc)
Steerpike
02-03-2006, 11:01 PM
Sonata Arctica and Dream Theater have pretty awesome keys in them. The good thing about Sonata Arctica is that they don't use the keys all the time, which makes them so much better. If it helps out the music, then by all means use it. In most bands that I've heard it just makes the music more busy which doesn't usually mean good.
Well, in the case of Rhapsody and Bodom, one could make an argument for a Baroque influence in the music.
Classical is a rather broad term for music after all. There are so many different periods it covers, including the modern day work of great composers like John Williams.
I agree with the second part of your statement, but in my opinion it doesn't go well with their music.
That's mostly chalked up to a matter of personal preference, and really is something that's pointless to debate.
It's kind of in transition. Not many old metal bands (20 yrs ago) use keys but the ones lately have had keys in them (CoB, SA, DT, etc)
I think it's largely because today's musicians are eager to experiment with the new technology available to them.
When keyboards first came about, they were ridiculously unreliable. Remember the write-up I did on Tangerine Dream?
Then a stigma got attached to them when the sound of keys and synths became dubbed "modern" and so embraced by the mainstream and the throngs of ultimately forgettable bands that used them ad nauseum.
Now, though, the technology is much more intricate and advanced and offers up possibilities that the musicians of yesteryear had at best limited access to.
heavy metal kid
02-03-2006, 11:03 PM
I'm going to assume then you have no care for atmosphere or any sort of epic feeling.
If you are good with your basic instruments(guitar, bass,drumms), you can create any kind of atmosphere.
I think any instrument can belong to any genre, the only thing that matters is the musician.
RiceMonster
02-03-2006, 11:06 PM
If you are good with your basic instruments(guitar, bass,drumms), you can create an atmosphere.
I'm fully aware of this - I'm a big black metal fan. However, one who really enjoys atmosphere would not say keyboards do not belong in metal.
slaughteredfirst
02-03-2006, 11:09 PM
I actually like the keyboards in Children of Bodom. Adds a nice color to the music.
And you have to admit that Janne is one hell of a musician. I think it's great that in modern metal talented musicians other than the vocalists and guitarists can get a moment in the spotlight.
Oh yeah, he is great, just I dont like his style.
I can't imagine saying something so close-minded as keyboards don't belong in metal. For one, they're so versatile--you can create melodies (which I don't like so much on keyboards), or be extremely sublte or create atmosphere or add depth, emotion, intensity. You can do all that and everything in between with a keyboard.
Secondly, why would you limit what any genre of music can or should be? It's a foolish notion.
I'm fully aware of this - I'm a big black metal fan. However, one who really enjoys atmosphere would not say keyboards do not belong in metal.
One who enjoys atmosphere would say a variety of instruments that sound good together belongs in metal. A variety of instruments that don't sound good together doesn't belong anywhere.
I think it's largely because today's musicians are eager to experiment with the new technology available to them.
When keyboards first came about, they were ridiculously unreliable. Remember the write-up I did on Tangerine Dream?
Then a stigma got attached to them when the sound of keys and synths became dubbed "modern" and so embraced by the mainstream and the throngs of ultimately forgettable bands that used them ad nauseum.
Now, though, the technology is much more intricate and advanced and offers up possibilities that the musicians of yesteryear had at best limited access to.
You have a point, newer and more reliable technology has made it available to use key boards and other various instruments throughout
RiceMonster
02-03-2006, 11:22 PM
One who enjoys atmosphere would say a variety of instruments that sound good together belongs in metal. A variety of instruments that don't sound good together doesn't belong anywhere.
Obviously...
And by the way, atmosphere involves more than simply 'sounding good' which you apply to just about everything. It is a feeling; a feeling that consumes you and takes you somewhere else. It allows you to really connect with the music. To explain it is not that easy...
I can't imagine saying something so close-minded as keyboards don't belong in metal. For one, they're so versatile--you can create melodies (which I don't like so much on keyboards), or be extremely sublte or create atmosphere or add depth, emotion, intensity. You can do all that and everything in between with a keyboard.
Secondly, why would you limit what any genre of music can or should be? It's a foolish notion.
Yes! This is exactly my opinion. The amount of things that can be achieved with keyboards is amazing.
Oh yeah, I forgot to point out that the idea that keyboards are not "heavy enough" is total bullshit. Keyboards can expand a bands sound immensly and create some of the biggest sounds out there. Again, I'd like to refference Skepticism - The Raven and the Backwards Funeral. I'd honestly love to see someone even attempt to argue that that keyboards aren't part of it's titanic sound. Same thing with almost any Nortt song.
Steerpike
02-03-2006, 11:35 PM
One who enjoys atmosphere would say a variety of instruments that sound good together belongs in metal. A variety of instruments that don't sound good together doesn't belong anywhere.
It's largely a matter of who can make it work.
I guarantee there's a musician out there somewhere who could find a way to make a therimin and a harmonica sound good together.
Lunch
02-03-2006, 11:38 PM
Keith Emerson belongs in everything.
Stringbreaker
02-04-2006, 12:12 AM
I like keyboards in metal it is another element that some people like and others don't. And Tony Macalpine FTW.
Sleepy
02-04-2006, 12:19 AM
Personally, I love keyboards in metal. I think they add a lot of atmosphere to the sound and can pull some mean solos when used correctly.
This was a very bad idea for a post, however. Any instrument, and any style of vocals, can either add or detract from any genre of music depending on how it is played and implemented. Why pick on the keyboards? Not metal enough?
guitrguy
02-04-2006, 12:21 AM
Personally, I love keyboards in metal. I think they add a lot of atmosphere to the sound and can pull some mean solos when used correctly.
This was a very bad idea for a post, however. Any instrument, and any style of vocals, can either add or detract from any genre of music depending on how it is played and implemented. Why pick on the keyboards? Not metal enough?
Its not tr00
Cocaine
02-04-2006, 12:28 AM
I think they're in fact too "true".
Huber
02-04-2006, 12:44 AM
Keyboards work very well in metal. Children of Bodom, Dream Theater, several power metal bands. It adds a great layer of atmosphere or leads.
Scoot
02-04-2006, 12:49 AM
I love keyboards, no matter what. They add a unique sound to the band.
Well, they did before Children of Bodom came along and now every metal band and their dogs have them.
slaughteredfirst
02-04-2006, 12:58 AM
Keyboards work very well in metal. Children of Bodom, Dream Theater, several power metal bands. It adds a great layer of atmosphere or leads.
Nile use keyboards everyonce in a while.
As well with Behemoth.
Its never anything massive though.
I think the Monolith Deathcult has a keyboardest as well.
Squidtech
02-04-2006, 01:19 AM
Are you crazy?? listen to dimmu borgir
playguitar
02-04-2006, 01:31 AM
I've never been a fan of anything more than very subtle keyboard use. Every time I hear keyboards as main component of a metal song it just comes off as cheesy to me. For some reason I just can't stand the sound of them...
yeah umm keyboards can be incredibly heavier and sometimes even darker and heavier than guitars can ever hope to attain
go listen to astral projection or infected mushroom for godsakes
Sausage_Wielder
02-04-2006, 01:34 AM
Who was it that said bands that use keyboards are gay, and the only band that uses them and isn't gay is UFO?
the2stranger
02-04-2006, 05:03 AM
This thread upsets me (certainly as me being a keyboardist)
I won't waste any words on this matter :p
Mother
02-04-2006, 05:07 AM
Keyboards have been used in metal from the sabbath days.I personally have no problem with keyboards when they are used properly like COB and Symphony X etc.
repcak
02-04-2006, 05:08 AM
Keyboards work very well in metal. Children of Bodom, Dream Theater, several power metal bands. It adds a great layer of atmosphere or leads.
i agree.
only in some bands (but there exist only a few examples) overuse keyboard-parts in their songs. but in general i like keyboard (CoB)
Mother
02-04-2006, 05:18 AM
I have a keyboardist in My Band...Its preety cool when you have a Kick *** riff and kick *** evil atmosphere for back up with the keyboard.
Arucard
02-04-2006, 05:22 AM
Oh my. This is the stupidest thread ever. Of COURSE keyboards belong in metal. Borknagar, Arcturus, Ark Storm, Vintersorgs work, the list of brilliant uses of keyboard is endless!
gah
Benzum
02-04-2006, 05:32 AM
Oh my. This is the stupidest thread ever. Of COURSE
gah
I could not agree with that anymore.
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