Beatles or Rolling Stones?

[MBS]

So, who does everyone think is better, The Beatles, or the Rolling Stones? Personally, I think the Beatles are better. Discuss.

False paragraph to trick n00bs into reporting this into problems thread, lol

Neil Young once said in an interview: "What I've done is I've taken rock and roll and divided it into 2 sides. Beatles and Rolling Stones"

Interviewer: "Buffalo Springfield?"

Neil: "Beatles."

Interviewer: "CSNY?"

Neil: "Beatles"

Interviewer: "Crazy Horse?"

Neil: "Rolling Stones."

Interviewer: "Pearl Jam?"

Neil: "Rolling Stones."

What I'm asking you is what bands do YOU classify as Beatles or Rolling Stones and why. Also, maybe we could have a little discussion on this, and talk about it.

As per all my usual threads, I'll compile a list in this post, and the one after.

I'll kick things off with:

Radiohead : The Rolling Stones

[MBS]

The Beatles
Jack Johnson
Jeff Beck
Arcturus
Pink Floyd
Dave Matthews Band
Simon and Garfunkel
Bob Dylan
The Band
Beach Boys

The Rolling Stones
Deep Purple
Cryptopsy
Cream
Radiohead
The Who
13th Floor Elevators
John Mayall's Bluesbreakers
Creedence Clearwater Revival
Boston

[Broken Arrow]

Haha, I read this is Shaky. I brought it up in the CR thread and got owned by Badmoon. :p

[MBS]

Haha, I read this is Shaky. I brought it up in the CR thread and got owned by Badmoon.

Yeah, I was reading it in finals today, and I thought it'd be cool to get others opinions. If anyone hasn't figured out the analogy, I'll be happy to try to explain.

[TheDMV]

John Lennon: Beatles
George Harrison: Beatles

In all seriousness now:

Jack Johnson: Beatles
Bruce Springsteen: Both
Deep Purple: Stones

[Lunch]

The Who: Rolling Stones.

I think I did this correctly.

[Broken Arrow]

Yeah it's pretty tough to explain. It mostly has to do with the rawness(???) of the band. I know rawneess isn't a good word to use but I can think of any others right now.

I also think he is judging by each bands earlier careers because that's when both were both easier to classify. Beatles more of a pop band more of a good boy image and the Rolling Stones playing more blues influenced rock/pop and were more potrayed as "bad boys".

Hard to explain, but that's my idea about this.

[MBS]

Hard to explain, but that's my idea about this.

I always thought of it as your way and kind of like The Rolling Stones did whatever they wanted and they didn't really care about the critics.

[robo2448]

Jeff Beck- The Beatles (creativity)

[TheDMV]

I agree with Livewired more.

It's like whether you're on one end of the spectrum, Pop Rock, or the other end, Hard Rock. Each of these respective bands pioneered the sound in each of these sub-genres.

[MBS]

Jeff Beck- The Beatles (creativity)

I'd say Rolling Stones because he was so diversive and did whatever.

[TheDMV]

I'd say Rolling Stones because he was so diversive and did whatever.

I think Jeff Beck could go under the necessary 3rd category, Pink Floyd.

[Moon Flavor]

Cryptopsy-Rolling Stones (it's just rocking harhar)
Arcturus-Beatles (some of it is really weird)

[robo2448]

I'd say Rolling Stones because he was so diversive and did whatever.

Yeah that's why I chose Beatles. Beck's stuff with the Yardbirds and Jeff Beck group was heavy blues-rock much more similar to The Rolling Stones. But then he started experimenting with jazz-fusion and such. Now the Beatles never experimented with jazz fusion or anything like that, but The Beatles were much more experimental than the Stones. So even though Jeff Beck sounds absolutely nothing like The Beatles, he reminds me more of The Beatles because of his creative skill and constant experimentation. I don't know if that makes any sense, but whatever.

Simon and Garfunkel- Beatles

[sandbaby]

i think radiohead would be more in the beatles category. they arent that poppy but they can be pretty melodic. at least the earlier stuff. and they are more experimental like the beatles.

[BigTrav415]

Pink Floyd - Beatles
Led Zeppelin - Eh... Both, depends on what album/song in all honesty
Cream - Rolling Stones
Dave Matthews Band - Beatles
Grateful Dead - Really tough one... Beatles for creativity, experimentation, etc., Rolling Stones for straight rockingness and "rawness" or I guess less-producer'd sound.

I've done mine, let's see yours :p

[TheDMV]

Pink Floyd - Beatles
Led Zeppelin - Eh... Both, depends on what album/song in all honesty
Cream - Rolling Stones
Dave Matthews Band - Beatles
Grateful Dead - Really tough one... Beatles for creativity, experimentation, etc., Rolling Stones for straight rockingness and "rawness" or I guess less-producer'd sound.

I've done mine, let's see yours :p

Zeppelin has got to be The Stones. They have the same brash attitude and blues rock sound.

[robo2448]

This is fun and I'm bored.

13th Floor Elevators- The Rolling Stones
John Mayall's Bluesbreakers- The Rolling Stones
Bob Dylan- The Beatles
The Band- The Beatles
Boston- The Rolling Stones
Beach Boys- The Beatles
CCR- The Rolling Stones
Deep Purple- The Rolling Stones

[MBS]

i think radiohead would be more in the beatles category. they arent that poppy but they can be pretty melodic.

Exactly. They're the Stones.

[robo2448]

Exactly. They're the Stones.

I'd disagree. They're very experimental and have the same creative attitude of The Beatles. I'm not saying The Rolling Stones weren't creative, but they found success with hard blues-rock and stuck with it for the most part.

Phish- The Beatles

[MBS]

I'd disagree. They're very experimental and have the same creative attitude of The Beatles. I'm not saying The Rolling Stones weren't creative, but they found success with hard blues-rock and stuck with it for the most part.

But there's a certain feel to their music that makes them seem like the Stones, IMO.

[Broken Arrow]

If I were to pick I'd put them under Beatles. I think that the transition from OK Computer to Kid A kind of resembles the Beatles going from Help! and Rubber Soul to albums like Revolver and Sgt. Peppers. Kind of like building up a fan base on a more mainstream sound then taking their music in a whole other direction with experimentation.

Their music also reminds me more of the Beatles even though saying that seems kinda weird to me.

[superdigg]

yeah I think radiohead are definitely on the beatles side.

and hey TS, warriors avatar ftw ;D

hmm I can't decide which side Rush would be on

[MBS]

hmm I can't decide which side Rush would be on

Beatles, for sure.

[Seafroggys]

I love The Who and Deep Purple too much to put them in the Stones catagory though :( Beatles are gods!

Anyway, here's a little list of my favorites, and which catagory:

Beatles
Jethro Tull
Emerson Lake Palmer
Pink Floyd

Rolling Stones
The Who
Deep Purple
Cream

[Jacaranda]

Stones:
Bowie and Iggy.

I was hoping the thread would be about the title. It got my heart pumpin', then I got dissappointed and now I'm angry.

[Krabsworth]

I think the Who go under the Beatles because both bands actually wrote decent songs.

[Jacaranda]

I think the Who go under the Beatles because both bands actually wrote decent songs.
God another great post by you, thanks for contributing. Keep up the faggy work.

I could do this easier if both bands weren't gods... maybe if it was like some other bands...

[Krabsworth]

/puts on Forty Licks

[El_Goodo]

Big Star - Beatles
The White Stripes - Mixture Of Both
AC/DC - Rolling Stones
R.E.M. - Beatles
Wallflowers - Beatles

[Krabsworth]

Okay I did that one post to piss off Jacardanda. I'd say the Rolling Stones can go under the Beatles.

[Jacaranda]

Big Star - Beatles
The White Stripes - Mixture Of Both
AC/DC - Rolling Stones
R.E.M. - Beatles
Wallflowers - Beatles
Uh, no and a no.

Okay I did that one post to piss off Jacardanda. I'd say the Rolling Stones can go under the Beatles.
Clever.

Beatles:
Zombies
Beach Boys
Strawberry Alarm Clock
Oasis (Great Beatles cover band, check um out.)
The Kinks
Queen

Stones:
Iggy Pop
David Bowie
The Pogues
The Animals
Led Zeppelin
Jimi Hendrix
The Cure
Damned
Buzzcocks
DFA79
I'm just sorta throwing out bands that are dirty... nothing to do with sound.
Oh for the record Stones>Beatles. Its a proven fact!

[Krabsworth]

The Beatles:
The Monkees

[thickasabrick]

Haha, I love to see threads that have been taken over by the CR regs. Umm...The Doors: The Stones. Hows that sound?

[Seafroggys]

The Beatles:
The Monkees

*pukes*

you have no fricken clue what you're talking about.

It pisses me off every time someone puts the monkees and the beatles in the same sentance...instantly shows off their ignorance

[Broken Arrow]

*pukes*

you have no fricken clue what you're talking about.

It pisses me off every time someone puts the monkees and the beatles in the same sentance...instantly shows off their ignorance
I agree but he has a point, they are more Beatles than Rolling Stones.

[Jon]

Stones
New York Dolls
Hanoi Rocks
Guns N' Roses
Stooges
Bowie
Me
Anyone thats cool.

Beatles
er..

[Dragon_Prince]

I think the Who go under the Beatles because both bands actually wrote decent songs.



yeah very stupid. Especially as The Who began as The replacement rolling stones, at least that's what they say ;)

[Schyma]

The Who: Rolling Stones ;) Radiohead : The Rolling StonesNo, if anything there easily the Beatles. With their studio mastery and artistic intelligence they're definitely Beatles.

Didn't we come to the conclusion that Neil Young's classification system for Rock just doesn't work?

[Broken Arrow]

It works to a certain degree I think.

Neil's too cool to be wrong, haha.

[idspispopd]

jimi hendrix experience-stones
grateful dead-beatles
metallica-beatles
green day-stones
jethro tull-beatles
led zeppelin-beatles
motley crue-stones

just off the top of my head
the beatles are undeniably the greatest band of all time

[Dragon_Prince]

I guess the options should be more variating
- Beatles
- Stones
- Floyd
- Clapton

those 4 could do for every rock band, but there are other styles of music that need other people, probably. I've putten in Clapton 'cause he was one of the first guitar virtuoso's, probably most bands are a mix between

[Krabsworth]

*pukes*

you have no fricken clue what you're talking about.

It pisses me off every time someone puts the monkees and the beatles in the same sentance...instantly shows off their ignorance

Um the Monkees were Beatle rip offs, how can they not be Beatles?

[Broken Arrow]

jimi hendrix experience-stones
grateful dead-beatles
metallica-beatles
green day-stones
jethro tull-beatles
led zeppelin-beatles
motley crue-stones

just off the top of my head
the beatles are undeniably the greatest band of all time
Zeppelin were definetly the Stones.

[Jacaranda]

And Green Day is not the Stones... Green Day (AI at least)= Pop-Rock = Early, Later, Whenever Beatles.

[Scuba_Steve]

Beatles
prog.

rolling stones
Metal.

[Ladyshredder126]

stones were amazing at the superbowl :thumb:

[I'm Charming]

stones were amazing at the superbowl :thumb:

They were a complete mess.

It was like 80 year old men running around dressed as emo fags.

They can't sing, play guitar, play bass or drum.

Seriously, get a myspace and quit your AARP sponsered gigs.

[guitrguy]

Linking a metal band to the beatles or the stones is quite a stretch.

[Jacaranda]

They were a complete mess.

It was like 80 year old men running around dressed as emo fags.

They can't sing, play guitar, play bass or drum.

Seriously, get a myspace and quit your AARP sponsered gigs.
Hey since when were CoB at the Super Bowl?

FYI: Your a ****ing faggot, and funny as ****.

[guitrguy]

:lol: He thinks his statements have validity.

[MidnightRider]

The Beatles - Porcupine Tree, Blue Oyster Cult
The Stones - Tool, Opeth, Sabbath, Ozzy, Maiden

This is tough.

[BigTrav415]

Hey since when were CoB at the Super Bowl?
Reefl. Actually I'm gonna have to disagree though, I'm not a metalhead at all, and I think that CoB has some great instrumental talent. Lyric-wise, not a fan, but their bassist/keyboardist/drummer/guitarist syncronization is very good IMO.

[guitrguy]

I've putten in Clapton 'cause he was one of the first guitar virtuoso's, probably most bands are a mix between
Except for Carulli, Sor, and many others.

[PinkFreud]

the beatles would have the majority of softer alt/indie stuff i would think. death cab for cutie and the like i definitely associate with the beatles more.

[I'm Charming]

Hey since when were CoB at the Super Bowl?

FYI: Your a ****ing faggot, and funny as ****.


CoB wouldn't play at a super bowl because they don't have mainstream appeal, you dip****.

[PinkFreud]

CoB wouldn't play at a super bowl because they don't have mainstream appeal, you dip****.
haha. yeah, im sure THAT'S the only reason.

:thumb:

[guitrguy]

CoB wouldn't play at a super bowl because they don't have mainstream appeal, you dip****.
please would you just die.

[Jacaranda]

This message is hidden because Man_Made_God is on your ignore list.

Odd.

[PinkFreud]

haha, ive only done that with one user. i think it's funnier for me now that this guy doesnt get ignored.

[I'm Charming]

haha, ive only done that with one user. i think it's funnier for me now that this guy doesnt get ignored.

If you or anyone would like to explain how rolling stones are musically talented much less more then CoB... Please do so.

[guitrguy]

If you or anyone would like to explain how rolling stones are musically talented much less more then CoB... Please do so.
In every way you can think of. Keith Richard is considered a guitar great. What Alexi consider? Another mediocre metal guitarist. Alexi has very little originality, he relies very heavily upon old material. I really don't like the stones but the atleast have differentation between songs. Drumwise there is no contest. CoB drowns out there drums for crying out loud. Stones can keep a rythm that is contrary to the melodies rythm. Neither Mick or Alexi can sing. Lyrically Stones are amuch higher level. They right lyricals that actually have symbolism. Again CoB Drowns out there bass and even then the bassist just plays root.

[PinkFreud]

they're better songwriters. period. it's not even a question. mick jagger is and was a first class frontman. possibly the finest in rock music. hihs voice is distinctive. keith richards is a great guitarist. very influential. talented not because of his speed, but because he was experimental and played around with different tunings. much the same way nick drake is considered a great guitarist. not that i would expect you to know about that. he's tasteful. ronnie wood and mick taylor are amazing guitarists. mick played with john mayall, you know, the group that clapton was in after the yardbirds and before cream? charlie watts is a talented drummer. perhaps deceptively, but he really is. try playing honky tonk women if you don't believe me. collectively, they have a solid claim to greatest rock and roll band in the world.

any questions?

edit: regarding cob. are you honestly telling me that CHILDREN OF BODOM is a better, nay, GREATER band than the rolling stones? you're delusional.

[I'm Charming]

In every way you can think of. Keith Richard is considered a guitar great. What Alexi consider? Another mediocre metal guitarist. Alexi has very little originality, he relies very heavily upon old material. I really don't like the stones but the atleast have differentation between songs.

You have to also consider who declares which a great guitarist.

The rolling stones being so well known and mainstream.

You mention anythign about them, people know who your talking about.

You mention any metal band/band member that's out of the mainstream MTV2 crap...to most people... they will have no clue who they even are.

[PinkFreud]

You have to also consider who declares which a great guitarist.

The rolling stones being so well known and mainstream.

You mention anythign about them, people know who your talking about.

You mention any metal band/band member that's out of the mainstream MTV2 crap...to most people... they will have no clue who they even are.
you have no point. that's all i'm going to say.

[Jacaranda]

Holy **** that kids more delusional then I thought! I would post out a ten page report on why the Stones in their low still beats CoB's high any day, but I am tired and ready for bed, maybe in the morning!
And I'd love to see CoB write an album that could stand up to A Bigger Bang.
The Stones are orginal which is more then I can say about CoB.

Watch out he is hxc and doesn't like mainstream music.

[I'm Charming]

they're better songwriters. period. it's not even a question. mick jagger is and was a first class frontman. possibly the finest in rock music. hihs voice is distinctive. keith richards is a great guitarist. very influential. talented not because of his speed, but because he was experimental and played around with different tunings. much the same way nick drake is considered a great guitarist. not that i would expect you to know about that. he's tasteful. ronnie wood and mick taylor are amazing guitarists. mick played with john mayall, you know, the group that clapton was in after the yardbirds and before cream? charlie watts is a talented drummer. perhaps deceptively, but he really is. try playing honky tonk women if you don't believe me. collectively, they have a solid claim to greatest rock and roll band in the world.

any questions?

edit: regarding cob. are you honestly telling me that CHILDREN OF BODOM is a better, nay, GREATER band than the rolling stones? you're delusional.


I'd consider The Doors far more talented then the stones.

You think anyone in the rolling stones could play Janne's keyboard melodies and solos?
You think your beloved Keith Richards could play any of Alexi's guitar riffs or solos?
no.

[I'm Charming]

Holy **** that kids more delusional then I thought! I would post out a ten page report on why the Stones in their low still beats CoB's high any day, but I am tired and ready for bed, maybe in the morning!
And I'd love to see CoB write an album that could stand up to A Bigger Bang.
The Stones are orginal which is more then I can say about CoB.

Watch out he is hxc and doesn't like mainstream music.

Way to cop out.

Lets see that ten page report.

If that's you in your avatar... I have to laugh and say no wonder your such a idiot.

[Jacaranda]

The Stones kill the Doors hun.

I'd like to see Janne play anything as good as Billy Preston... FYI Mick and Ron Wood could easily play an Alexi riff, Mick can play 10x better then him. I'd love to see Alexi write anything close to what Keith has written.

And I would love to have this convo about you in 20 years from now when CoB is long dead and forgotten about while the Stones are still called one of the greatest.

And hey you got two not so big Stone fans arguing against you, you got nothing on the Stones so stop being such a fanboy.

[guitrguy]

You think your beloved Keith Richards could play any of Alexi's guitar riffs or solos?
no.
Actually yes... Alexi plays riffs are in steps and half steps and a alot of power chords. his solos are in one place on the neck and maybe some tapping that is not difficult.
Way to cop out.

Lets see that ten page report.

If that's you in your avatar... I have to laugh and say no wonder your such a idiot.
DIE ALREADY, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DEBATE USE YOUR ****ING BRAIN.

[PinkFreud]

you think anything cob write is going to stand the test of time like the stones? no.

you think children of bodom are ever going to be nearly as influential and revered as the stones? no.

you think your beloved alexi has anywhere near the talent of mick jagger? no.

i don't really care if you think the doors are more talented than the stones. that has no bearing on this conversation.

if that was the best comeback you could think of, you truly have run out of ideas.

edit: the fact that you have no idea who is in jacaranda's avatar is just more cannon fodder.

[I'm Charming]

Actually yes... Alexi plays riffs are in steps and half steps and a alot of power chords. his solos are in one place on the neck and maybe some tapping that is not difficult.


True.

Keith Richards doesn't play anything that impresses me.

I've heard plenty of rolling stones songs btw.

[PinkFreud]

what about mick or ronnie? oh wait, you probably can't differentiate between them huh?

how many is plenty?

ps: only responding to the posts you want to is fun isnt it?

[I'm Charming]

you think anything cob write is going to stand the test of time like the stones? no.

you think children of bodom are ever going to be nearly as influential and revered as the stones? no.

you think your beloved alexi has anywhere near the talent of mick jagger? no.

i don't really care if you think the doors are more talented than the stones. that has no bearing on this conversation.

if that was the best comeback you could think of, you truly have run out of ideas.

edit: the fact that you have no idea who is in jacaranda's avatar is just more cannon fodder.


For the record.
I don't think Alexi is the most talented guitarist on earth.

Okay you piece of ****?

I'd consider the guy(can't remember his name),
in Necrophagist better.
John Petrucci comes close.
Herman Li is right up there as well.

[guitrguy]

True.

Keith Richards doesn't play anything that impresses me.

I've heard plenty of rolling stones songs btw.
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it takes no skill to play.
example: I hate Yngwie but I respect his skill on guitar.


You also have no concept msuic composition either.

[I'm Charming]

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it takes no skill to play.
example: I hate Yngwie but I respect his skill on guitar.


You also have no concept msuic composition either.

I'm not a musically theory expert and never claimed to be.

[guitrguy]

For the record.
I don't think Alexi is the most talented guitarist on earth.

Okay you piece of ****?

I'd consider the guy(can't remember his name),
in Necrophagist better.
John Petrucci comes close.
Herman Li is right up there as well.
:lol: wow..... ummmm he is virtuoso..... just :lol:

I'm not a musically theory expert and never claimed to be.
So why are critiquing skill?

[Jacaranda]

Beatles > Stones, arguable. Who > Stones arguable. Grateful Dead > Stones arguable. CoB > Stones... thats like calling them the greatest band of all time. Stupid, stupid.

[PinkFreud]

For the record.
I don't think Alexi is the most talented guitarist on earth.

Okay you piece of ****?

I'd consider the guy(can't remember his name),
in Necrophagist better.
John Petrucci comes close.
Herman Li is right up there as well.
and the rolling stones are nowhere near my favorite band. and why am i suddenly a piece of ****? because i come up with points that you have no response to?

the guitarists you listed are ok. petrucci is one dimensional. what makes him super talented? why can't you just admit that the stones are talented? do that and this conversation will be over. you just need to stop being so stubborn, especially when you're wrong.

edit: i've read some of your other posts and i honestly think you need to lurk more. you seem very ignorant.

[I'm Charming]

Beatles > Stones, arguable. Who > Stones arguable. Grateful Dead > Stones arguable. CoB > Stones... thats like calling them the greatest band of all time. Stupid, stupid.

I'd put the beatles > stones

anyday.

[I'm Charming]

and the rolling stones are nowhere near my favorite band. and why am i suddenly a piece of ****? because i come up with points that you have no response to?

the guitarists you listed are ok. petrucci is one dimensional. what makes him super talented? why can't you just admit that the stones are talented? do that and this conversation will be over. you just need to stop being so stubborn, especially when you're wrong.

edit: i've read some of your other posts and i honestly think you need to lurk more. you seem very ignorant.

I think the stones are what you get for classic rock.

Compare to other classic rock, they are solid.

[guitrguy]

I think the stones are what you get for classic rock.

Compare to other classic rock, they are solid.
Normally people try to dispute accusations of ignorance not enforce them.

[PinkFreud]

wait, so now classic rock is bad? i'd like to know what classic rock you listen to.

you can't win with this. not when we're around.

[Seafroggys]

well of course The Who and The Beatles are better than the stones :cool:

naw seriously, I'm not much of a Rolling Stones fans, but they are great, and hearing them come on the radio makes me wanna dance.

Does your precious CoB do that? No way in hell.

You are truely a great musician if you can make the majority of people dance to you (with the exception of classical musicians)......oh noes, I expect a comeback of "well so-so can play 24/7 polyrhthms and he is quite happy with himself playing in his garage and in front of 10 fans at the local theatre"....well good for him, but thats nothing more than a hobby.

[BigTrav415]

Personally:

I think the Rolling Stones are an awesome band. They write great music lyrically, have great guitar talent, a relatively good drummer and bassist, and a great singer IMO. Their unbelievable longevity as a band and a pop culture icon adds to their credibility. I still don't rank them especially high compared to other bands that I personally like more (Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, The Grateful Dead, The Beatles, etc.), but that's almost like comparing triple-meat pizza to secks for me. I am really glad that the NFL let them play at the Super Bowl, it's honestly one of the best bands they could've had in my mind. Although, like I said in some other thread, The Who for '07 \m/

CoB is not one of my favorite bands. Of course I'm not a metal fan, so that obviously makes a difference. But just because I don't especially like their music doesn't mean I don't appreciate their talent. I think that the "metal" sound often overrides complex musical arrangement for straight hardness, but their speed and syncronization as a band is very admirable. I can definitely see how CoB is good, even if I don't really like them per se.

[PinkFreud]

even if we ARE judging by technical talent, cob STILL doesnt cut it.

[guitrguy]

CoB is not one of my favorite bands. Of course I'm not a metal fan, so that obviously makes a difference. But just because I don't especially like their music doesn't mean I don't appreciate their talent. I think that the "metal" sound often overrides complex musical arrangement for straight hardness, but their speed and syncronization as a band is very admirable. I can definitely see how CoB is good, even if I don't really like them per se.
Its not hard to to have every part play the same rythm.

[El_Goodo]

Uh, no and a no.

Alrighty then... AC/DC - The Beatles...I guess Day Tripper is closer to AC/DC's riff's than any of the stones? (The Beatles do have songs heavier than any of the stone's, thanks for pointing that out.)


Oh for the record Stones>Beatles. Its a proven fact!

Not if were talking about record sales and cultural impact :smoke:

[I'm Charming]

wait, so now classic rock is bad? i'd like to know what classic rock you listen to.

you can't win with this. not when we're around.


Classic rock I listen to would be,

The Doors
Pink Floyd
The Beatles are alright in small doses.

I don't listen to much though.

Eagles are good in small doses.

[guitrguy]

Id say the both had influence on the same bands. That why I didn't make a list :P

[PinkFreud]

so basically, you're assuming basing all your classic rock knowledge on those 3 or 4 bands?

great.

[I'm Charming]

so basically, you're assuming basing all your classic rock knowledge on those 3 or 4 bands?

great.

NO.

I've listened to many in my life. I gave my favs. That's all.

I also think Deep Purple and Foreigner are good. Not a huge fan of CR as I've said though.

[BigTrav415]

Didn't this thread used to be about, like, rating bands as Beatles or Rolling Stones or something?

Yes - Beatles
Counting Crows - Beatles, just because it's practically all slow beautiful ballads or catchy pop stuff :)

[El_Goodo]

You think anyone in the rolling stones could play Janne's keyboard melodies and solos?

Um, point out to me where the keyboard player in the stones is you moron.

You think your beloved Keith Richards could play any of Alexi's guitar riffs or solos?
no.

Um Keith Richard's has been playing guitar since the 60's, he's got at least 30 years on Alexi. So Im pretty sure not only could Richard's play the riff's and solo's, but I'm pretty sure they would sound better.

COB are not gonna last as long as the Stone's and that doesn't need to be argued. The Stone's were very popular in their day, COB are in there day, and they are still not popular. They are generic crap, the Stone's did something original. You probably don't think it's original cause other band's sound like them, but that's because it's been 40 years since the Stone's started.

[guitrguy]

I think the stones are what you get for classic rock.

Compare to other classic rock, they are solid.
What was this then?

[PinkFreud]

yeah, i really didnt understand that comment at all.

[I'm Charming]

What was this then?


Heres my last post relating to this.

stones are solid for classic rock , I'm not a fan of classic rock. Hardly.

I do think it's kind of stupid how anything about talent turns to "Alexi Vs the world".

If a CoB fanboy doesn't mention it, someone does.... Then the CoB fanboys arrive and notice eventually. Let the fireworks begin.

I'll try and refrain from being to much of a fanboy in threads other then CoB. :chug:

[guitrguy]

Heres my last post relating to this.

stones are solid for classic rock , I'm not a fan of classic rock. Hardly.

I do think it's kind of stupid how anything about talent turns to "Alexi Vs the world".

If a CoB fanboy doesn't mention it, someone does.... Then the CoB fanboys arrive and notice eventually. Let the fireworks begin.

I'll try and refrain from being to much of a fanboy in threads other then CoB. :chug:
I dont want to start another fight, but you bring your fanboyism in CoB thread to a point of idoicy. It helps if you are open to the fact the bands you don't like might actually have talent.

[BigTrav415]

And we bring it on home to... more ratings!

Johnny Cash - Rolling Stones
Dire Straits - Rolling Stones
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Umm.... *eeny meeny minee moe* Beatles

[PinkFreud]

no, that really didnt clear it up at all.

compared to classic rock, the stones are solid? expand please.

[I'm Charming]

I dont want to start another fight, but you bring your fanboyism in CoB thread to a point of idoicy. It helps if you are open to the fact the bands you don't like might actually have talent.


I do give many bands credit for talent, that I don't like.

It's the CoB thread... lawl... you think people in there would say anything besides praise for CoB? :p


As I said.... I'll leave my fanboyism in the right thread, or try my best.

[Illmatic]

Texas should either drift into the ocean or be given to mexico.

It's just rich white conservatives trying to force "their morals" on the whole country.... oh and world.

And the North is just rich white liberals trying to force theirs. What's the difference?

[guitrguy]

And the North is just rich white liberals trying to force theirs. What's the difference?
I actually had to keep myself from tearing into him for that
I do give many bands credit for talent, that I don't like.

Then why did you rip on the stones?

[I'm Charming]

no, that really didnt clear it up at all.

compared to classic rock, the stones are solid? expand please.


I said they are solid for classic rock.

Meaning,

Compared with other bands in that genre and music overall...

They are solid.

In other words,

I hate them but give them credit for what they are/done.

[BigTrav415]

I give up trying to hold this thread together. You guys can kill each other for all I care :sigh:

And the South will rise again or something.

[guitrguy]

I said they are solid for classic rock.

Meaning,

Compared with other bands in that genre and music overall...

They are solid.

In other words,

I hate them but give them credit for what they are/done.
You are also implying that othe CR bands aren't. The CR ands that everyone remembers are remembered for a reason.

[I'm Charming]

And the North is just rich white liberals trying to force theirs. What's the difference?

None.

My values are very liberal, therefor to hell with the conservative south. :thumb:

It's just which ever end of this your on.

*flash backs of my PS 201 class*.

[I'm Charming]

You are also implying that othe CR bands aren't. The CR ands that everyone remembers are remembered for a reason.

No.

I'm not bashing any other CR bands.

[BigTrav415]

My values are very liberal, therefor to hell with the conservative south. :thumb:
Urge to kill rising...

[Illmatic]

None.

My values are very liberal, therefor to hell with the conservative south. :thumb:

It's just which ever end of this your on.

*flash backs of my PS 201 class*.

Liberals can be every bit as moronic and annoyingly self-righteous as conservatives :)

[guitrguy]

None.

My values are very liberal, therefor to hell with the conservative south. :thumb:

do you believe in persecution?

[Illmatic]

And the North can be every bit as bad as the South. Hell, Boston is one of the most racist cities in the country.

[BigTrav415]

And the entire world can be every bit as bad as the South. Hell, [insert any country] is one of the most racist countries in the world.
Expand'd.

This poor thread :sniffle:

[I'm Charming]

And the North can be every bit as bad as the South. Hell, Boston is one of the most racist cities in the country.

Racism is everywhere, sadly.

I wouldn't be bashing the North when it comes to racism though...

haha. The south takes the cake for that.

[PinkFreud]

haha. i live in michigan and consider myself a liberal. i know friends who are hadcore, radical liberals and NONE of them would ever even CONSIDER saying anything that stupid, biased, and inflammatory.

[Illmatic]

Racism is everywhere, sadly.

I wouldn't be bashing the North when it comes to racism though...

haha. The south takes the cake for that.

oh no i'm not bashing the north.

i'm bashing retards who think that racism and intolerance in general magically disappears when you go north of the mason-dixon line

trust me i know this kind of stuff

[BigTrav415]

I wouldn't be bashing the North when it comes to racism though...

haha. The south takes the cake for that.
I can't even begin to comprehend the immense ignorance it took to genrate that gem of a statement in the dusty confines of what used to be your brain I assume. Answer me one question, truthfully.

Have you ever been to "the south"?

[Illmatic]

I can't even begin to comprehend the immense ignorance it took to genrate that gem of a statement in the dusty confines of what used to be your brain I assume. Answer me one question, truthfully.

Have you ever been to "the south"?

10 bucks says he hasn't even been to Southie in Boston (or Mt. Vernon in Chicago or some of the places in CT and upstate New York)

[I'm Charming]

haha. i live in michigan and consider myself a liberal. i know friends who are hadcore, radical liberals and NONE of them would ever even CONSIDER saying anything that stupid, biased, and inflammatory.

Yeah yeah...

Your perfect and I'm sure perfect people have perfect friends. :p

[I'm Charming]

I can't even begin to comprehend the immense ignorance it took to genrate that gem of a statement in the dusty confines of what used to be your brain I assume. Answer me one question, truthfully.

Have you ever been to "the south"?

Yah......sadly.

Edit:
Damn it... I keep accidently double posting.

[Illmatic]

I'm pretty sure he's one of those classroom liberals who talks big about how he hates intolerance but hasn't actually had experience around black people or gay people.

[guitrguy]

Racism is everywhere, sadly.

I wouldn't be bashing the North when it comes to racism though...

haha. The south takes the cake for that.
That in its self is basically racism. You believe that people from the north are superior to people from the south.

[PinkFreud]

Yeah yeah...

Your perfect and I'm sure perfect people have perfect friends. :p
close.

i'm perfect and perfect people have friends who don't make stupid statements.

[I'm Charming]

That in its self is basically racism. You believe that people from the north are superior to people from the south.


In principle your right.


To answer a post above.

I've known some lesbian and Bi people. I've known people of all races in my life.

I have nothing against them.

[Illmatic]

In principle your right.


To answer a post above.

I've known some lesbian and Bi people. I've known people of all races in my life.

I have nothing against them.

Where exactly do you live?

[BigTrav415]

Yah......sadly.
Nice try! If you had actually been to the South, you would know that the same number of people that wear white sheets and burn crosses is equal to or lower than said number in any other part of the country! :)

Not only that, but I would quite honestly like to know, if you have indeed been to the South, one true instance of racism you witnessed. Don't think too hard trying to lie, I'll know anway :)

[I'm Charming]

Where exactly do you live?

Til I was 14 in Sonoma County, CA.

Til I was almost 17, Sacramento CA

Current, Portland OR

[guitrguy]

In principle your right.

What do you mean by that? That you make bigotted statements, but your not a bigot?

[Illmatic]

Til I was 14 in Sonoma County, CA.

Til I was almost 17, Sacramento CA

Current, Portland OR

:lol: you live in hippie communes, man

[I'm Charming]

What do you mean by that? That you make bigotted statements, but your not a bigot?

No.

I meant you were correct.

[Illmatic]

Don't listen to him, people.

He hasn't been to New York or New England, therefore he doesn't know how bad the North can get.

[PinkFreud]

yeah. new england is reaaaallly bad.

[I'm Charming]

:lol: you live in hippie communes, man

haha.

I lived in Santa Rosa and Windsor in Sonoma County.
Small towns... with tourist towns around them.

Sacramento isn't exactly hippieville.
Very diverse. Mostly conservative.

Portland, seems to be fairly liberal.

[Illmatic]

haha.

I lived in Santa Rosa and Windsor in Sonoma County.
Small towns... with tourist towns around them.

Sacramento isn't exactly hippieville.
Very diverse. Mostly conservative.

Portland, seems to be fairly liberal.

whatever man youre wrong

norcal and oregon are just full of hippies

[I'm Charming]

whatever man youre wrong

norcal and oregon are just full of hippies


Talk about a ignorant statement.

The only "hippie" areas in norcal are,

Arcata and Euwreka. Those are filled with em. :p

[BigTrav415]

Still waiting :)

If you go ahead and admit that you haven't actually witnessed any racism in the South, then I'll still respect you.

[I'm Charming]

Still waiting :)

If you go ahead and admit that you haven't actually witnessed any racism in the South, then I'll still respect you.

Not in person, no.

[Illmatic]

Talk about a ignorant statement.

The only "hippie" areas in norcal are,

Arcata and Euwreka. Those are filled with em. :p

woooow

you understood my post

tool

[I'm Charming]

woooow

you understood my post

tool

Thanks cunt! :chug:

[PinkFreud]

HAHAHA. oh man. that's great.

well played, ray.

[Illmatic]

Thanks cunt! :chug:

so in this thread you have proven yourself to be a huge ****ing dumbass. what're you gonna do now?

[BigTrav415]

Not in person, no.
Post-Civil Rights Movement-era, can you think of any real racist issues in the South, besides perhaps basic discrimination in small-town privately-owned businesses or clubs, or the occasional extremist attack or statement?

[Illmatic]

Post-Civil Rights Movement-era, can you think of any real racist issues in the South, besides perhaps basic discrimination in small-town privately-owned businesses or clubs, or the occasional extremist attack or statement?

Which also happens in the Northern United States and in other Blue States (like, oh, California), by the way.

[BigTrav415]

Which also happens in the Northern United States and in other Blue States (like, oh, California), by the way.
I was going to wait and bring that up if he actually managed to think of any, specifically countering with the LAPD attacks as well as other glaring examples outside of the South. Thanks for the backup though :)

[Seafroggys]

Til I was 14 in Sonoma County, CA.

Til I was almost 17, Sacramento CA

Current, Portland OR

DUDE! Where in Portland do you live?

[I'm Charming]

DUDE! Where in Portland do you live?

haha.

Clackamas

Why?