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Deconstruction
01-29-2006, 05:02 PM
Is the Father of Rock n Roll, Robert Johnson?
Blues master, soul seller, and the father of rock n roll.
Most of you probably know of him or have heard about him so feel free to start discussion here.

Britton
01-29-2006, 05:35 PM
I thought Chuck Berry was the father of Rock a Roll

Aw3someman
01-29-2006, 05:37 PM
Burned!!!!!!!!!

PinkFreud
01-29-2006, 05:44 PM
he's a big influence on many artists but i definitely wouldn't say that he was the "Father of rock 'n' roll."

thickasabrick
01-29-2006, 05:47 PM
Personally, I think Robert Johnson could have changed the musical world to a much more extreme degree had he been more exposed and well known. He only had a handful of recordings that no one even heard for years. He was amazing though.

I remember reading in Dylan's book Chronicles that the first time he had Robert Johnson he was already living in New York working as a folksinger and he was simply blown away. He said he basically started to rethink every aspect of how he was writing and playing songs. Of course, Dylan seemed to say that about everybody heh heh.

Dave de Sylvia
01-29-2006, 05:50 PM
he's a big influence on many artists but i definitely wouldn't say that he was the "Father of rock 'n' roll."
Yeah.

If you want to be really precise, that guy in Africa way back when who decided that banging on the ground made a cool sound is the real father or rock n' roll.

Still, Robert Johnson is a force to be reckoned with. Me & The Devil Blues, Crossroad Blues etc.

Edit: I saw this book a while back about a similar subject- a history of blues through rock n' roll with RJ as the central focal point. I wish I could buy it :(

hatebreeder
01-29-2006, 05:51 PM
King of the country/delta blues , yes. I dont think theres really a father of rock and roll, it came from rockin blues which was considerably before elvis or chuck berry. I love listening to stuff off of texas sessions though.

Kingofdudes
01-29-2006, 05:55 PM
Southern Mississippi :cool:

Deconstruction
01-29-2006, 06:27 PM
Eh, blues basically is the begining of Rock, JR is pretty much the begining of blues so...Eh whatever discuss his 41 recordings.

Dave de Sylvia
01-29-2006, 06:29 PM
JR is pretty much the begining of blues
Not really though.

Deconstruction
01-29-2006, 06:31 PM
Not really though.
Well not the beginning but I am going out on a limb here and just trying to make my point....He is just one of the most influential early blues artist in my opinion.

hatebreeder
01-29-2006, 06:42 PM
The very first ever recording of a person hearing blues was in 1896, im almost certain on that one. Johnson was at least some 30 years after that, there were lots of people like him such as son house, lead belly came a little later. He was pretty much the most influencial figure in blues music though.

Deconstruction
01-29-2006, 06:44 PM
The very first ever recording of a person hearing blues was in 1896, im almost certain on that one. Johnson was at least some 30 years after that, there were lots of people like him such as son house, lead belly came a little later. He was pretty much the most influencial figure in blues music though.
Ahhh, but they didnt sell their souls to the devil ;)

sketchyjoe
01-29-2006, 06:45 PM
There are several godfathers of rock and roll. Johnson was one and he's fantastic. Hank Williams was another. He's amazing too.

Shattered_Future
01-29-2006, 06:46 PM
Some said that Robert Johnson was the very first artist in the Satanic music scene as well, with his references to selling his soul to the devil.

hatebreeder
01-29-2006, 06:49 PM
May I remind you of devil got my woman - skip james b.1902, johnson was born in 1911, james' career was a bit before johnson and he brought that aspect along with son house, b. 1902 also but I cant think of any songs off the top of my head.

thickasabrick
01-29-2006, 06:54 PM
Does anyone know what the deal is with songtitles/lyrics like I Believe I'll Go Dust My Broom? Dust my broom? What a strange thing to write a song about.

JonG
01-29-2006, 06:57 PM
The very first ever recording of a person hearing blues was in 1896, im almost certain on that one. Johnson was at least some 30 years after that, there were lots of people like him such as son house, lead belly came a little later. He was pretty much the most influencial figure in blues music though.
Lonnie Johnson influenced Robert.

He wasn't the best.

thickasabrick
01-29-2006, 07:05 PM
This thread would have went much more smoothly if the threadstarter didn't put forth the Father of Rock n Roll label. Why don't we just discuss Robert Johnson instead of arguing about who was more influencial and who came first etc. I'm sure half the people in this thread have only heard a couple of his songs anyways.

hatebreeder
01-29-2006, 07:10 PM
What sucks is that one of the biggest connections for delta blues and roberts style Robert lockwood jr. isnt going to be around, and he just didnt immitate the style, being taught by robert he had it.

gillygan
01-29-2006, 07:11 PM
Theres not really a "father" of any genre of music.

Deconstruction
01-29-2006, 07:18 PM
This thread would have went much more smoothly if the threadstarter didn't put forth the Father of Rock n Roll label. Why don't we just discuss Robert Johnson instead of arguing about who was more influencial and who came first etc. I'm sure half the people in this thread have only heard a couple of his songs anyways.
I only used that because I believe him to be one of them....though there are many. Discuss any RJ, I think tomorrow I will have all 41 recordings he has put out.

JonG
01-29-2006, 07:21 PM
I have King of the Delta Blues Singer and the Complete Recordings.

=-fukifiknow-=
01-29-2006, 07:22 PM
excuse me Billy Joe Armstrong is the father of rock and roll

Britton
01-29-2006, 07:26 PM
excuse me Billy Joe Armstrong is the father of rock and roll


Wow...

Deconstruction
01-29-2006, 07:31 PM
excuse me Billy Joe Armstrong is the father of rock and roll
Thanks for the great post..

Would anyone here sell their soul to the crossroads deity to be able to play guitar amazignly?

gillygan
01-29-2006, 07:51 PM
excuse me Billy Joe Armstrong is the father of rock and roll



:lol: best post today.

hatebreeder
01-29-2006, 08:52 PM
Would anyone here sell their soul to the crossroads deity to be able to play guitar amazignly?[/QUOTE]

It depends on if you believe he actually sold his soul, no proof so I say no.

Kingofdudes
01-29-2006, 08:53 PM
It depends on if you believe he actually sold his soul, no proof so I say no.
Also, there are 3 different Crossroads that claim they are the Crossroad. For all you know you may be selling you soul to a false devil :p

Deconstruction
02-08-2006, 08:09 PM
Also, there are 3 different Crossroads that claim they are the Crossroad. For all you know you may be selling you soul to a false devil :p
It isnt actually a devil, it is the Crossroad's Deity, we just call it the devil.
It was part of the african culture.



Heh its a bump..anyone have all his works that they want to trade??

Badmoon
02-08-2006, 08:56 PM
Hank Williams was another. He's amazing too.

Yes, Hank was just as important in the creation of Rock n Roll as Robert Johnson, if you ask me.

rockinbass17
02-08-2006, 10:04 PM
Well, I'd say about 40% of rock comes from the blues, and 40% from folk. The other 10 includes classical for the few prog bands and latin for the few latin rock badns, and various other genres for the few other bands.

So, I guess I would put the blues and folk guys together. What would work better would be the "founding fathers of rock and roll" instead of just one "father".