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Steerpike
01-27-2006, 06:30 PM
Well, here we are. Starting the final chapter of year 1 in the series. It's a real milestone.

But I'm not going to waste time stoking my ego. We're going to take the customarily look back on the last chapter before moving on.

Kamelot - Real American Power Metal
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=415201

Blackmore's Night - A Match Made In Heaven
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=417518

Michale Graves - Dig Up Her Bones for Witch Season!
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419906

Melechesh - Sumerian Black Metal
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422394

Darkest of the Hillside Thickets - Ia! Ia! Cthulhu rocks!
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=424234

Tangerine Dream - The World's Greatest Synth Band
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426021

Sabaton - This Means War
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=428552

After Forever - A New Generation of Gothic Metal
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=430938

Epica - Life After Forever
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433562

Primal Fear - Metal Eagles of Sci-Fi
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=436163


Christmas Special: Trans-Siberian Orchestra - A New Christmas Tradition
http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=426215

Well, that's taken care of. Now, let's go forward. Ironically, we began chapter two of the series with a doom metal band, and now we repeat that theme.


Biography

One of the more interesting practices of Christianity is the creation of saints. Now, regardless of your thoughts on religion, the creation of saints was the church's response to polytheism. The saints weren't gods, but they were a pantheon of holy individuals who blessed certain areas of creation. Some were probably just made up. I mean let's face it, where in the Bible are you going to hear mention of Saint Elmo and Saint Blayze? One of the more obscure saints in this little pantheon was Saint Vitus, the patron saint of dancing and dogs... y-y-y-yeah. Ironic that a doom metal band used his name, isn't it?

Saint Vitus is one of the earliest doom metal bands, and largely regarded as a founder of the genre. They formed in the late 70's in Los Angeles under the original name Tyrant and helped to popularize the dirge approach to metal that Black Sabbath originally devised and Pentagram later expounded on. This wasn't too good for them at first, because the West Coast was the hub of the thrash metal surge. Metallica, Megadeth, Antrhax, Exodus... the list goes on. All based in California and founded in the 80's.

Add to the fact that the quartet had limited funds which resulted in very raw production, and they were fighting an uphill battle of apathy and bad reviews.

On the upshot, they always stuck to their guns and had the fortune of their only line-up change being a rotation of vocalists, all of whom have been regarded in modern days as classic doom metal vocalists.

Their self-titled debut left most critics stunned with the very balls-y decision to play so slow it made you want to slash your throat from the oppressive sound. Greg Ginn, founder of SST Records and guitarist for the highly influential punk band Black Flag, was the one who provided them with this chance. The then-vocalist was Scott Reager.

Reager recorded one more album and an EP with the group before he left and was replaced by the equally impressive Scott "Wino" Weinrich. Wino turned out to be the group's longest lasting vocalist, staying with them from Born Too Late in 1986 to 1990's release of Live, the band's first and only live album.

After Wino left, Christian Lindersson, whom Saint Vitus met when his band, Count Raven, were opening for them, joined up for the release of the Children of Doom album in 1993. Don Dokken himself liked their work so much he helped produce the album, but even his word and promotion were not enough to help, and the band split up.

They reunited with Scott Reagers to record one last album not long after, the 1995 release entitled Die Healing. Once it was complete, Saint Vitus was no more.

The band members have since drifted in and out of various projects, though in 2003 they held several reunion concerts from the Born Too Late era, much to the delight of doom fans across the world. They also rereleased their fifth album, V, and sold it at the concerts.

Recently, there has been a resurgence of interest in doom metal. This is largely spearheaded by the reunion of Candlemass and their new self-titled album, regarded by many as their best yet. Perhaps this means there will be more interest in Saint Vitus? Perhaps there will be more reunion concerts to come? Hard to say. But it should be interesting to watch and see what happens.

Sadly, this band has no official web site at this time.

Steerpike
01-27-2006, 06:32 PM
Last Line-Up

Scott Reager - vocals
Dave Chandler - guitar (Debris Inc.)
Mark Adams - bass
Armando Acosta - drums


Last Label

Hellhound


Discography

Saint Vitus (1984)
Hallow's Victim (1995)
The Walking Dead (1995, EP)
Born Too Late (1986)
Thirsty and Miserable (1987, EP)
Mournful Cries (1988)
V (1989)
Live (1990, live)
Heavier Than Thou (1991, compilation)
Children of Doom(COD) (1993)
Die Healing (1995)

Mailing List

Unfortunately, the list this week will be only 4 songs instead of the usual 5. For some reason, the file I have of Clear Windowpane is a file compatible with all of my media players, but it flat out refuses to admit that. I only have a few mp3s of this band at the moment, and for some reason, only these four work outside of Limewire. I'm not kidding, it's really weird.

Children of Doom
The Creeps
Born Too Late
Look Behind You

GenuineImitation
01-27-2006, 06:36 PM
They seem really intersting. Can I have some samples?

rock15guitarist@aol.com

Shattered_Future
01-27-2006, 06:38 PM
I've heard much about this band, mainly from my book (which is ungodly) The Encyclopedia Of Heavy Metal.

I'd be interested in a few samples when they get up too (I know they will. :p)

anemiate@yahoo.com, but you knew that already.

Great job again, as usual. :thumb:

Apocalyptic Raids
01-27-2006, 06:39 PM
Nice write up, as usual.

I've been meaning to check these guys out for ages (along with most other Doom bands).

If there are going to be uploads, then sign me up jonhislop@gmail.com

guitrguy
01-27-2006, 06:43 PM
Nice Job. Guitrguy@gmail.com

I hope im not the only vote for Buddy Holly

Apocalyptic Raids
01-27-2006, 06:48 PM
I was going to vote for Buddy Holly, but I want to find out about Darkwave, since I know nothing about it. So I voted The Cruxshadows.

Bartender
01-27-2006, 07:00 PM
Darkwave can go suck a lemon, I voted Buddy Holly.

Nice write-up. Though my experience of Vitus is limited, I like what I've heard. One of many doom bands I keep intending to buy things by, and yet never have. I like Wino as a vocalist, anyway.

guitrguy
01-27-2006, 07:01 PM
Darkwave can go suck a lemon, I voted Buddy Holly.

Nice write-up; though my experience of Vitus is limited, I like what I've heard. One of many doom bands I keep intending to buy things by, and yet never have. I like Wino as a vocalist, anyway.
Bartender is now teh c00lz0rz.

Apocalyptic Raids
01-27-2006, 07:02 PM
:'(

Steerpike
01-27-2006, 07:28 PM
Finished.

Anyway, I'm hoping to get some more interest in doom going around here.

I put Buddy Holly and The Ventures up there because I figured after all the new bands I've been doing, I should throw the classic rock fans a bone this time around.

And The Cruxshadows and The Hippos are for the sake of broadening a few horizons. Darkwave isn't for everybody, but it's still worth looking into just to see what sort of things are going on in modern music. And The Hippos are a rather unusual third wave ska band, but still worth looking into for anyone who calls himself a music fan.

Werny
01-27-2006, 08:13 PM
Anyway, I'm hoping to get some more interest in doom going around here.


I never thanked you for the Cathedral write-up you did months ago (...it was you, right...) for this series. It got me into Doom and Stoner, and I've never looked back.

I've never got around to checking out Saint Vitus... I'd love the sampler;

werny89@hotmail.com

milkman41
01-27-2006, 08:41 PM
I'd love to check them out, sparklepinknick@gmail.com, thanks.

tehfilter
01-27-2006, 09:33 PM
I could attempt to upload COD and Die Healing for you if youd like.

ValeOfShadows
01-27-2006, 09:34 PM
Id love some archenemy_28@hotmail.com

Kage
01-27-2006, 11:08 PM
Great read as always. Doom is becoming one of my favorite metal genres, something that started long ago with a spotlight on Candlemass ;). I love the slowness and the dark atmosphere of it, so this sounds really good.

saydstrings@gmail.com

blackthorne
01-28-2006, 07:28 AM
nice write up they sound intriguiging must hear more blackthorn574592@aol.com

jugganaut5
01-28-2006, 08:41 AM
Could you send some my way jugganaut5@hotmail.com
I've been meaning to check these guys out for a bit now, but never have

Txus
01-28-2006, 08:48 AM
Nice write up as usual man, I would love some samples.

Txus.mx@gmail.com

Vortigon
01-28-2006, 09:18 AM
St Vitus am teh rocks0rz

Iron Bars
01-28-2006, 09:55 AM
Never got into Doom Metal though I like Pentagram, but if you keep doing these write ups about doom bands I'm probably going to roll into it sooner or later so sign me up too: jvm360@hotmail.com

Voted The ShadowCrux. Some anoying guy who always hangs around in my local rock bar was talking about darkwave and it sounded interesting (the first time he sounded interesting).

Kage
01-28-2006, 10:24 AM
Voted The ShadowCrux. Some anoying guy who always hangs around in my local rock bar was talking about darkwave and it sounded interesting (the first time he sounded interesting).
If what he's talking about is anything like the bands I've heard be called Darkwave before (namely Puissance), then it is a very, very cool genre.

Ve Das
01-28-2006, 10:26 AM
St Vitus am teh rocks0rz

The mang says it all :-)

ve-das@gmx.de

Iron Bars
01-28-2006, 10:44 AM
If what he's talking about is anything like the bands I've heard be called Darkwave before (namely Puissance), then it is a very, very cool genre.

Their now ahead in the poll so hopefully we'll get a review next week.

Steerpike
01-28-2006, 10:55 AM
I never thanked you for the Cathedral write-up you did months ago (...it was you, right...) for this series. It got me into Doom and Stoner, and I've never looked back.

Yeah, that was me. Longest spotlight I've ever written.

Great read as always. Doom is becoming one of my favorite metal genres, something that started long ago with a spotlight on Candlemass ;). I love the slowness and the dark atmosphere of it, so this sounds really good.

There's plenty of atmosphere here. The only doomier material I've ever heard is Cathedral's debut album.

If what he's talking about is anything like the bands I've heard be called Darkwave before (namely Puissance), then it is a very, very cool genre.

For now, suffice to say that fans of Depeche Mode should be intrigued.

Lord Abortion
01-28-2006, 11:22 AM
I'm always up for doom!

olliethegreat_6@hotmail.co.uk

Doom dancing is copyright Messiah Marcolin...

Freezing Moon
01-28-2006, 12:37 PM
Saint Vitus is awesome. Great writeup.

I bought Born Too Late a while ago and I can't get enough of it. I've got others downloaded but I haven't listened to them as much.

ghettoeddo
01-28-2006, 01:27 PM
if it's not too late, i'd like a gander at em too.

ghettoeddo@gmail.com

Steerpike
01-28-2006, 04:16 PM
Okay the uploads are out, and given the massive response this week, I expect a lot of feedback.

Lord Abortion
01-28-2006, 04:18 PM
/Feedback

Awesome is an understatement

Kage
01-28-2006, 04:24 PM
Listening to Children of Doom right now, and I like it quite a bit, but something about it just isn't sitting right with me. I need to listen more. I think I could get into them, though.

Lord Abortion
01-28-2006, 04:26 PM
One problem I have...
The recording quality is a little off, but the intro riff to Born too late is Doomy as ****

Steerpike
01-28-2006, 04:30 PM
As I mentioned in the write-up, the production is very raw and minimalist. The band had a very low-budget to begin with, so...

If you've listened to black metal, it's easier to wrap your mind around.

Still, despite the raw production, the talent comes through pretty clear. In Born Too Late, when Wino sings that first verse, you really can see him trudging through a legion of grey, featureless faces pointing and laughing at him.

Lord Abortion
01-28-2006, 04:33 PM
As I mentioned in the write-up, the production is very raw and minimalist. The band had a very low-budget to begin with, so...

If you've listened to black metal, it's easier to wrap your mind around.

Still, despite the raw production, the talent comes through pretty clear. In Born Too Late, when Wino sings that first verse, you really can see him trudging through a legion of grey, featureless faces pointing and laughing at him.
"They say my songs are much too slow...but they don't know the things I know..."

That line is awesome, I really like this

Steerpike
01-28-2006, 10:40 PM
Quick bump. Hoping for more feedback and we need someone new to see this and help break up the tiebreaker in the poll.

GenuineImitation
01-28-2006, 10:43 PM
I just downloaded the songs, but didn't get a chance to listen to them yet. I'll post my opinion in the morning, but it should be very positive. You have very good taste in music.

Lord Abortion
01-29-2006, 08:05 AM
Darkwave sounds interesting

Txus
01-29-2006, 08:11 AM
Born Too Late is pure ace man, some great Traditional Doom Metal here. Great band, Thanks for the uploads.

Bartender
01-29-2006, 08:23 AM
Could I get the links, if they're still active/you still have them?

eruantien@gmail.com, as always.

Txus
01-29-2006, 08:30 AM
Could I get the links, if they're still active/you still have them?

eruantien@gmail.com, as always.
I can send you the links since Steerpike is offline.

SENT.

-Listy-
01-29-2006, 09:55 AM
Am i too late?

l0stprophet@hotmail.com

Steerpike
01-29-2006, 10:06 AM
Nope. Check your inbox.

Bartender
01-29-2006, 10:09 AM
I can send you the links since Steerpike is offline.

SENT.

Thanks.

IAJP
01-29-2006, 10:24 AM
Great band, great write up.


Do Buddy Holly next! :D

Kage
01-29-2006, 11:59 AM
Good, The Cruxshadows are ahead.

I like this band, but I can't stop myself from returning to Electric Wizard as my main doom outlet.

Steerpike
02-01-2006, 08:48 PM
Okay, giving this a quick bump because I need someone to bust up the tiebreaker in the poll above.

guitrguy
02-01-2006, 09:59 PM
:upset: I wanted to learn about Buddy Holly.

Kage
02-01-2006, 10:00 PM
yeah! I'm really glad Cruxshadows won, I can't wait for that one.

Jondur
02-06-2006, 03:39 AM
Can't believe I missed this! One of my favourite bands!!

You mentioned the name St Vitus. Well as far as I know the main inspiration was the Black Sabbath song St Vitus Dance which itself is named after the disease which makes people shake and convulse as if they were dancing.

If you enjoy Wino's vocals in Vitus then you should also check out his previous band The Obsessed.

Apocalyptic Raids
02-06-2006, 03:45 AM
I though something was wrong when you didn't post here :P

Werny
02-06-2006, 04:20 AM
/gives feedback

My computer likes little boys so I couldn't download all the songs, but Children of Doom... woh. The riffing is more than the typical chugga-chugga of Candlemass etc., it's great. The vocalist annoys me a bit... sounds like Glenn Danzig.

Steerpike
02-06-2006, 08:06 AM
I'll see if I can get some of the uploads with Wino on vocals up for you this evening, Werny.