I'm probably gonna get flamed...

[Kainen]

...but its a serious inquiry.

Why does it seem like everyone hates Travis Barkers playing because he's Travis Barker?

It's like theres some kind of "Travis Sucks because he's made a living playing drums and i haven't" Bandwagon going on in these forums.

And as far as i'm concerned, he plays drums better than most "punk" bands i've heard.

and don't give me that "punk drumming is bland" response either

I want solid concrete reasons why you think he sucks.

I was just listening to the last blink album (which is the only one I can tolerate) and well he has some pretty creative grooves, that he plays SOLID.


So could someone please explain to why its so concrete that he sucks?

[Tim]

people hate him here because hes extremely overrated. and yes its not his fault hes overrated..its his fans. all the people that come here trying to be like him and then they argue back when people are jsut trying to point them in a different direction and help them out by expanding their knowledge.

[Kainen]

people hate him here because hes extremely overrated. and yes its not his fault hes overrated..its his fans. all the people that come here trying to be like him and then they argue back when people are jsut trying to point them in a different direction and help them out by expanding their knowledge.


he is over rated, but thats no reason to hate him. The guy CAN play the drums and in my opinion he plays them well - Not great, but well.

[Tim]

he is over rated, but thats no reason to hate him. The guy CAN play the drums and in my opinion he plays them well - Not great, but well.

that is your opinion and you have every right to have that. Same with the people that dont like him. I mean dont get me wrong he does fit the music...i dont really like the band much its just not my type of music but i mean he does fit the music. But other than that hes just not a drummer i would follow to expand my learning at all. A lot of people jsut tend to follow drummers from big bands wich dont really help them with their learning at all. they are just playing the same beats and everything that the person they are following is playing. Yes its good to get ideas from other drummers but when you base your playing style on just 1 person and its just a "punk" drummer.....youre not going to advance much. You might advance with speed but thats it and speed isnt all that important.

[Futuro]

There has actually been alot of thses threads. Heh, They all normally end the same way....

[Josiah]

I want solid concrete reasons why you think he sucks.

I was just listening to the last blink album (which is the only one I can tolerate) and well he has some pretty creative grooves, that he plays SOLID.

So could someone please explain to why its so concrete that he sucks?


The last blink album, since it's the example, was almost entirelly sampled drumming.

The video accounts of this were aired on MTV's show wich follwoed blink on the making of the album.

Secondly. He's demonstrated a rather horrible attitude for being who he is. His interviews, and very much lack there of in major drumming mags. Have been nothing but pompus crap.

Thirdly. He's a backstabber. He ditched his old band mid tour to play with blink. Leaving them high and dry. He also has lied repeatedly in interviews.

Fourthly, the company he endorses and now owns a chunk of, OCDP, is about the biggest rip off in drums there is.

Generally speaking, in most cases where he has the opportunity to be in public light. He makes an *** of himself.

Considering the stark difference between that, and most other famous drummers positive attitudes, etc.. has gained him a rather nasty reputation.

[Drum Phil]

Thirdly. He's a backstabber. He ditched his old band mid tour to play with blink. Leaving them high and dry.

The Aquabats were clearly better than blink anyway.

[black guy]

I like a lot of the things he plays. Don't like him much as a person though.

[RushHourSoul]

The last blink album he multitracked each drum part. So he did the hihats, then recorded snare etc, all seperatly. I'm not sure how many songs it was on but i'm sure I read it somewhere, maybe in the album sleeve. Unless thats what you meant by 'sampled' josiah.

Anyway, I think hes a complete arse. He looks like a tool, has horrible technique and sets his kit up pretty nasty. A lot of kids look up to him and most of them get the impression that looking cool (having your kit setup like his, using OCDP kits, Zil A custom cymbals, stupidly high hihats etc) is more important that actually learning to play properly.

Apart from that, I like his playing sometimes.

[Tim]

I laugh when I see people trying to set their kits up like barker. their cymbals too high for them to hit. kinda funny.

[Phototropic]

He thinks hes a ****ing OG

Who's he kidding? White trash

[DxRocker]

1. what Josiah said

2. are other reasons required?

3. fair enough: compared to the attention he gets, the amount of albums they sell, the stages they are on... his playing is all but special. He'ld get burried by every drumteacher I have ever had. And half of them never even played on a serious international album.

Yes, he can play some drums. It would be kinda ridiculous if he (playing for most of his life) would get burried by me (playing only 8-9 years). But the thing is... on his "level" (wich is professional) he... SUCKS.

And you say he's one of the best "punk drummers"? First of all, he should be a "drummer", not a "punk drummer". If punk is all he knows, that, on its own, is allready enough to point and laugh at him.
Second, put him next to Bad Religion's drummer and watch him go down like a bird that's just been shot.

His technique is a nightmare. And his attitude is far worse.

If he were just a member of this forum and would post an audio clip, we would praise him for sure. But the thing is... he is a "professional" player/musician and he simply does not live up to the level he should be on after all those years and all those albums.

[DrOctagon]

i hate him because i see like 200 of these stupid *** threads every single week. i wouldnt give a **** so much, but it seems like you guys are the ones who really talk about him the most. please o ****ing please let this be the last tavis/joey thread. this **** is done to death. i suggest you all try to remove travis barker and joey jordison from your vocabulary and perhaps this forum will be just that much better for it.

edit= and who cares about the kind of person he is? im never going to meet him. his drumming is pretty decent
but really......who ****ing cares?

[Futuro]

i hate him because i see like 200 of these stupid *** threads every single week. i wouldnt give a **** so much, but it seems like you guys are the ones who really talk about him the most. please o ****ing please let this be the last tavis/joey thread. this **** is done to death. i suggest you all try to remove travis barker and joey jordison from your vocabulary and perhaps this forum will be just that much better for it.

edit= and who cares about the kind of person he is? im never going to meet him. his drumming is pretty decent
but really......who ****ing cares? That would have been more powerfull if you read it over once....

[DxRocker]

Maybe we should start a subforum called "The Flame Corner" where all these threads can be moved to :)


o wait... that would be the pit :lol:

[crazyguy832]

1: Blink Sucks

2: Travis Sucks

3: Avenged Sevenfold owns

4: The Reverend owns

5: Reverend/Barker

[Ming-a-Ling]

I don't like him because he has a really long neck. Or at least it looks that way. Maybe it's the tattoo's that do it.

Just kidding...my problems with him, like Josiah said, is that he just seems like a jerk. And all the little fan boys bug me too, but I suppose that's not really his fault.

[Talos]

I dont really like him but I do own a lot of Famous Stars and Straps items of clothing and accessories.

[DrOctagon]

That would have been more powerfull if you read it over once....

oh yea for sure, but thats not how i roll

[Killjoy]

what a bummer

not again...

[$D$2]

I think he's a great drummer... certainly not the best but a very skilled musician. I'd listen to a Blink 182 song just to hear him drumin'-it-up!

[dairyairman]

like him or not as a musician, he's definitely a good showman. crowds go nuts over him, that's for sure. and he's one of the few drummers out there whose name is recognized by regular music fans.

[Canadian_Drummer]

I hate because hes overated people thinks he sucks, Hes Good lets leave it at that, dont say oh he sucks just because little kids say oh hes the best ever, and stupid kids dont say OMGOMGOMG TRAVIS BARKER = GOD hes just a drummer in a band gawd, thats what i think anyway

[Sthrudel]

I downloaded 2 blink albums and listened to them so I could get a feeling what this travis really is.

I know you can't judge musicians by the albums because everything can be done in the studio nowdays, but after a while a was really surprised what he does. I like his playing. I don't care what he is in the real life really.

I also like this interview: http://www.blink-182.org/facts.interviews.html?show_interview=13

I didn't know he plays jazz and I bet everyone wants to have a mother like he had...

[2112drummer]

He's good to the untrained ear. Passive music fans just think he's awesome because they don't know any better. they think that fast + tatoos = godly drumming. people like you guys on the board, you know better. most of you are drummers and you know that there are countless drummers who are better musicians than Barker. He's ok when the music fits but it's those damn little kids who make up most of his fanbase, and their Dickies, who elevate him to such a position.

[PrinceOfDarkness]

3: Avenged Sevenfold owns
he he he.... i just had to laff at that - they look as bad as travis :thumb:

anyway, back on topic...
this is boring, we get a million of these posts all the time - check the archives - i posted something similar when i first started and i didn't realise why people were fed up of it, like i am now :)

he can play drums OK, but he doesn't deserve the recognition he receives. HAVING ALL THE POSTS ABOUT HIM ON HERE IS A FINE EXAMPLE! also, he annoys me and many other people because he looks like and acts like a bit of a w*nker when he should be acting like a role model...

however, to be fair, he's obviously done something right to be in the position he is in, maybe if he wasn't a w*nker he wouldn't have loads of kids thinking he was cool??? :confused: but the bottom line is that it's not down to the quality of his drumming...

he got voted Best Punk Drummer in Rhythm or something the other month - I would love to see the justification for that! i don't listen to punk but i'm sure he's can't be the best in the world!!!

[Arucard]

1: Blink Sucks

2: Travis Sucks

3: Avenged Sevenfold owns

4: The Reverend owns

5: Reverend/Barker


I would say Travis 'sucks' but other than that, tr00 dat. The Reverend is brilliant.

And i say hes an alright drummer, who occasionally does something interesting. People hate him because hes in a succesful band, when better drummers than him have to scrape a living through local bar gigs and teaching.

[Kainen]

First off I don't care about his interviews or anything like that. I KNOW he's an ***. I met him and i've talked to him a lot of times (his hometown is riverside/corona.. look at my home town) my band used to practice at his HORIFFIC clothing line's original store (famous stars and straps). It was cheap and we needed the space.. he used to be there often enough when he wasnt touring. Yeah he seemed like a nice guy at first but when you started talking to him ... you knew he was a money hungry self centered ***.

I wanted to know why his playing sucks so much to everyone.






And you say he's one of the best "punk drummers"? First of all, he should be a "drummer", not a "punk drummer". If punk is all he knows, that, on its own, is allready enough to point and laugh at him.

Yeah thats what he's known for.. I wanted to know why he sucks for being a known punk drummer. (aside from the transplants who I think are horrible)

Second, put him next to Bad Religion's drummer and watch him go down like a bird that's just been shot.


Yes Brooks Wackermann OWNS travis barker. Hes amazing.

[Josiah]

Lets not forget the other wackermann! Chad's a great players as well. Super super nice guy too.

[Double Bass Jim]

Yeah you don't see chad mentioned to much around here.

He's got quite a repitore under his belt too, played with tons of people!

[SkaRabbit]

Barker had potential.....

Most people hate it when non drummers say "omgz lik3 h0w Co0l iS DIS dude?"

When you just wanna say check out akiro jimbo or peart etc and they say " who are they i betz dey iS n0t as F4st as Teh Barker"
At which point i want to belt them.

[SkaRabbit]

Chad is the sex

[The Ska Man]

And as far as i'm concerned, he plays drums better than most "punk" bands i've heard.


Have you heard ANY "punk" bands?

[drummer_mp3]

This thread sucks!

[aznriceball]

threadstarter:

this is why ud be flamed. u dont use the search button. as a result, ur question hardly deserves a response, be happy for thread bump

[DxRocker]

Yeah you don't see chad mentioned to much around here.

He's got quite a repitore under his belt too, played with tons of people!

talk about an UNDERrated drummer!! It's true man. Chad doesn't get the respect and recognition (no way that's spelled like that :p ) he deserves

As for the interview where Travis said he plays jazz... I'll believe that when I see it...

[Josiah]

The only thing travis knows how to swing is a needle into his arm... hahahaha come on really. How do you grow older, yet smaller and skinnier?! Gosh I wonder.

He must have hyperthyroidism... yea that's it. It's his thyroid acting up....

[DxRocker]

bwahaha!

ps J: http://www.musicianforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=438310

sorry for whoring that, but I'ld like your opinion on that one :p

[Panopticon]

just because he studied jazz it doesnt mean he remembers any of it anymore:smash:

nor does it mean he applies it, shows it, or uses it at all in anyway.

[Canadian_Drummer]

HA you guys are lame, if other people didn't like him so much you'd be like oh yea check it this guy hes pretty good, and hes probebly laughing at people like you, what are you doing complaining on a forum, while hes rollin in the G's

[Kainen]

Have you heard ANY "punk" bands?


ahahah. are you kidding me?

I only spent my youth at the showcase theatre in corona california.. look it up.

Yes I think he's more creative and solid than the drummers from..


DK
Screeaching Weasel
Ramones
GBH
GERMS
Minor Threat
c0ck Sparrer
The Business (although the business' drummer is really awesome live)



AZNriceball :

I did a search, and the threads I looked through were nothing but bashing him, yet none said WHY.



And yes, Chad is awesome.. probably more so than Brooks.

[Futuro]

Isn't Josh freese in a punk band? I really like his style, I wouldnt mind hearing him play some punk.

[Panopticon]

HA you guys are lame, if other people didn't like him so much you'd be like oh yea check it this guy hes pretty good, and hes probebly laughing at people like you, what are you doing complaining on a forum, while hes rollin in the G's


you know...i'm really starting to not like you...

[styler]

...but its a serious inquiry.

Why does it seem like everyone hates Travis Barkers playing because he's Travis Barker?

It's like theres some kind of "Travis Sucks because he's made a living playing drums and i haven't" Bandwagon going on in these forums.

And as far as i'm concerned, he plays drums better than most "punk" bands i've heard.

and don't give me that "punk drumming is bland" response either

I want solid concrete reasons why you think he sucks.

I was just listening to the last blink album (which is the only one I can tolerate) and well he has some pretty creative grooves, that he plays SOLID.


So could someone please explain to why its so concrete that he sucks?
im sure its been set in concrete already why....you could of searched it up, theres atleast 100 threads like this out there.

and punk drumming is bland, also, blink182 isnt punk, there pop rock. pop punk if your that picky.

we hate him because he made a living off of something hes not great as, and he gets the fame of someone whos the best in the world, when there are people like thomas lang, johnny rabb, etc out there that are a million times better, and anything travis can play, can be played better, and more solid by almost any other players...

[FarFromElysium]

the funny thing is that travis could own 90% of the people on this forum

[Talos]

the funny thing is that travis could own 90% of the people on this forum

In what? Speed? most probably but I bet a lot of people could pwn him in a solo or something of the likes

[FarFromElysium]

In what? Speed? most probably but I bet a lot of people could pwn him in a solo or something of the likes

at being as solid a drummer as he is for blink, boxcar, and the transplants

[Futuro]

the funny thing is that travis could own 90% of the people on this forumMaybe, Not being over confident, But im fairly sure in a few years I could take him.

Also there is a huge difference in being on a forum, than being a professional drummer.

at being as solid a drummer as he is for blink, boxcar, and the transplants I play solid every gig. Playing solid doesn't make you good.

[FL3P]

I play solid every gig. Playing solid doesn't make you good.

I would say it does if anything does. Having chops doesnt necessarily make you good either, you have to be able to use them.

[\m/-CHeV-\m/]

the reason he plays solid ( and ALL other drummers on records) is because every (intelligent) band plays to a clicktrack when they record an album :/

[Futuro]

I would say it does if anything does. Having chops doesnt necessarily make you good either, you have to be able to use them. Being solid is only the first step. Creativity plays a huge role.

the reason he plays solid ( and ALL other drummers on records) is because every (intelligent) band plays to a clicktrack when they record an album :/ What a bad post. You can play to a click and still pull or push the time and make it feel like crap.

[Tyr]

Of course he's solid. Drumming is his job! 'Solid' does not equal 'good'. He's been playing for most of his life, so he should have left 'solid' behind and at least started moving towards 'good' or 'groovy', or something like that. Sure, he's quite fast, but he can only play in one way. It's always the same, all the time.:(

I mean, I'm solid, but not good. I'm not better than him, but I dont play drums for a living either. And I have only been playing for two years.

[chickensandwiches]

Hes overrated and anybody who sticks to drumming even halfassedly can reach his level with worries of failing

[Kainen]

Well I appreciate everyones response. I think you guys covered a decent amount of it. Thanks.

I dont like who he is, But I can't say I don't like his playing.










why do people feel the need to point out "this threads been done before"? If its been done, why waste your time pointing it out?

Maybe I should say "theres a 'back' button" use it.

[Futuro]

why do people feel the need to point out "this threads been done before"? If its been done, why waste your time pointing it out?

Maybe I should say "theres a 'back' button" use it. How I said it was not in a demeaning manner. I was informing you.

Personally I don't care if you like him or his drumming.

[FL3P]

Of course he's solid. Drumming is his job! 'Solid' does not equal 'good'. He's been playing for most of his life, so he should have left 'solid' behind and at least started moving towards 'good' or 'groovy', or something like that. Sure, he's quite fast, but he can only play in one way. It's always the same, all the time.:(

I mean, I'm solid, but not good. I'm not better than him, but I dont play drums for a living either. And I have only been playing for two years.

My definition of someone who is "solid" is having good time and good feel and being an all around good drummer even if not flashy. I always assumed it was a compliment.

[spirit]

the funny thing is that travis could own 90% of the people on this forum

I don't see that as the point. Yes, perhaps if people just say "Travis suk0rZ", but usually that's just a lazy way of saying "Travis receives too much recognition for what is, in the grand scheme of things, a career in mediocrity."

[DxRocker]

the funny thing is that travis could own 90% of the people on this forum

You know what the funny part about that is?

That it is only 90%, and not 100% Could you say the same about Chad, Gadd, Lang, Bozzio, Vinnie, Schack, Minneman, ..... and about 10.000+ other drummers?

And personally, I think it's even less then 90%, but that's just my opinion.

HA you guys are lame, if other people didn't like him so much you'd be like oh yea check it this guy hes pretty good
No, we wouldn't. Trust me on that one. Compared to the level he is supposed to be on or compared to what people make him out to be, he is UTTER crap. Like Obscurity once said (I believe it was him)
"The only thing Travis showed the drumming community, is that it is a bad idea to tattoo your arm pits..." :smash:

and hes probebly laughing at people like you
probably, but I bet he is crying inside when he hears the groovy licks Flam and Josiah are posting :lol:

hes rollin in the G's
So is Britney Spears, and it doesn't prevent her from squeeling off key.

[Blank]

GOD!
All of you keep repeating the same post.
This thread is boring.And repetitive.

/thread

[DxRocker]

All of you keep repeating the same post


You'ld think they'ld get it by now...

[Blank]

Yeah im gonna make an interesting thread!
With blackjack...and hookers! >.>

[Futuro]

Yeah im gonna make an interesting thread!
With blackjack...and hookers! >.>Count me in!

[styler]

My definition of someone who is "solid" is having good time and good feel and being an all around good drummer even if not flashy. I always assumed it was a compliment.


being solid is his job. its expected of him. a good beginner drummer is solid.

its the drummers who go one step farther and add there own flavour, there the good drummers. travis is just a mediocre drummer who got famous for being in a pop-punk band, and getting lucky by signing with a big label.

that doesnt make him any better than someone whos been playing for 3 years. except the fact that hes got an escalade collection and is dating a supermodel.

but someone without the record label could have those exact same things, without the fake fame and over-praise


also, im up for that ryan. actually, screw the thread and the blackjack :smash:

[FL3P]

I wouldnt consider most beginners to be very solid but maybe the defenition of solid varies from person to person. I have always thought of myself as a solid drummer first and foremost and been proud of it

[DxRocker]

actually, screw the thread and the blackjack :smash:


meh... forget the whole thing.... :lol: :lol:


Bender owns :chug:

[Loyton]

"I prefer As, but I break them" <---talking about why he uses Z's.

"You have to practice drums before you do anything. Do your homework and your drums, and you can go out and skateboard and hang out with your friends."

"I wanted to be a pro skateboarder, but it was too hard. I was trying, but it wasn't going to happen."

[The Philosopher]

I'd have to say it was his "solo" that ruined it for me.

[Canadian_Drummer]

If any one can copy his solo on video and upload it, if they can do it i'll shut up, but if not then you should shut the **** up

[FL3P]

Tried that already, dont bother

[Futuro]

If any one can copy his solo on video and upload it, if they can do it i'll shut up, but if not then you should shut the **** up Sloppy singles, and easy 4/4 grooves?

[chickensandwiches]

^---soo true

[Blank]

Im so tired of this thread >.>

We have to understand.He's washed up right now right?
Blink broke up so were not gonna see him for awhile....right?

[Massik Kretal]

Ryan! Wheres the avatar I made you!! I can't believe you... *sobs*

[Blank]

Im going through changes....and I don't see you in them.

Im leaving you MK.Take a hint.

[Massik Kretal]

Well I dont need you...I dont need any of you!!:angry:

Just.....go...and leave me alone!! wahhh

[Blank]

:upset:

......
ok! :D *leaves*

:p :thumb:

[Loyton]

Im so tired of this thread >.>

We have to understand.He's washed up right now right?
Blink broke up so were not gonna see him for awhile....right?

*cough* transplants *cough*

[Blank]

So..Travis Barker....is never going to leave?
:upset:

*Cries in corner cleaning shotgun*

[Massik Kretal]

Yayy shotgun!

[chickensandwiches]

Rainbow Suicides!!!!!!























TRAVIS is here to STAY :DUN DUN DUN: the world shakes in terror

[styler]

If any one can copy his solo on video and upload it, if they can do it i'll shut up, but if not then you should shut the **** up
why would we bother?when we can make a better one.


also, im saying this specifically to diss the transplants...but who the **** are they?there more washed up than blink182.
and theyve never even had a hit.

[10571z]

I dont see how you can say travis barker is a arsehole when none of you have met him..... All i ever see is him being quite and like on meet the barkers he seemed fairly nice

[styler]

he didnt an interview as the drummer for the transplants on much music, nardwuar or w/e, him and the other guy were total asses.

[Blank]

Damn That Other Guy!

[Seafroggys]

I dont see how you can say travis barker is a arsehole when none of you have met him..... All i ever see is him being quite and like on meet the barkers he seemed fairly nice

yes, because reality shows are perfect representations of real life.... :rolleyes:

seriously man, how can you be so dumb? I'm willing to bet he's a producer on that show....do you think he's gonna air scenes of him being an ***?

[Motleyguy]

If any one can copy his solo on video and upload it, if they can do it i'll shut up, but if not then you should shut the **** up

how about...
you shut up
you n00b

[FockerTheLopper]

We hate him because of threads like this.

Thats not all of it off the top of my head I can think of 7 maybe 10(faith, billdrum, yeti)(the 7 are josiah, ken, jim, damo, matter, bone, and dx) that can smoke Travis. Most don't do it for a living either and don't get half of the exposure and all are much better people then him.