I need a realistic price for my DW double pedal

[Flamacue]

Hey pedal experts, my student behnn, you may remember him a while back, has acquired some nice goodies today in the way of new A custom cymbals and a joey jordison signature snare drum. Anyway, he's been borrowing my old DW 5000 double pedal for a while and really likes it. He was gonna buy an iron cobra and having tried one today he said he hated it and mine was the only pedal he can play, so he wants to buy mine. Now, the thing is, I'm not in a position to spend money on a new pedal, much as I would like an iron cobra, so if my pedal isn't worth that much, I'd be left without a double bass drum pedal. He said he'd pay whatever it takes, BUT, I'm not the kind of person to take advantage so I wouldn't wanna charge more than it's worth.

So what is it worth in £?

http://freespace.virgin.net/roman.five/pedals1.jpg

[serenityNOW]

idk but it looks pretty old.... when did u buy it?

[Panopticon]

wow...didnt see that coming!...how old are those?...it looks like thos are two seperate pedals as well...

TBH i have absolutely no idea what you could get for them...

[Corkofski]

did he try a belt drive IC? or a powerglide?

that could be his problem

[-TheGlassPrison-]

I remember when you sent me this picture on msn haha.

I wish i had a quote to help you..

[metalhead72]

ask your drumstore

or ask modern drummer

[-TheGlassPrison-]

ah yes... email modern drummer.

I would grab some new beaters though!

And clean it up.

[Flamacue]

Bought this in the early 90's. I think jim once said it's a very solid pedal.
If I was to sell it, how much could I buy a good second hand iron cobra double pedal, sort of top of the range and how available are they?

[Josiah]

Wow that's an oldie...

Unfortunately I wouldn't say it's worth much as mid/low line double pedals are so cheap now. Perhaps $100, even that seems to be pushing it, though it seems like you could get away with it.

Ebay has a few IC double pedals ranging from 130-150 right now. New off MF IC' double is like 3 bills. You can grab a IC Jr double for almsot half that, just as good of pedals only lacking in adjustability. There's a ton of great double pedals out there that aren't too pricey, the Big Dog's, IC Jr's, DW7000k, Pacific, Gibraltor and Yamaha as well.

[Flamacue]

Cool, thanks josiah. Converting $100 to sterling, yea that's kind of what I was reckoning on and not much more.
3 bills, I take it that's american speak for 3 x 100 dollar bills? Well I think for adjustability I'd quite like to ultimately go for a top of the range IC.

[saars]

3 bills, I take it that's american speak for 3 x 100 dollar bills?

yeah

[Josiah]

AH yea.. everything I said was meant for US. Forgot about the UK conversion.

[Flamacue]

Hey, I just sold it for $265 ( £150 ) to him, he wanted it really bad. :) Now I can afford to look for a second hand IC. There's one on ebay, think I should go for it?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tama-iron-cobra-double-pedal-not-DW_W0QQitemZ7382960663QQcategoryZ38097QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

[saars]

wow, 265 USD for that? surprising...



anyways, the link doesn't work... most likely cause I'm in the US

[drummingducktape]

thats a pretty nice ic id go for it

[drummingducktape]

wow, 265 USD for that? surprising...



anyways, the link doesn't work... most likely cause I'm in the US
worked for me

[Flamacue]

thats a pretty nice ic id go for it

Is it completely adjustable? Some guy on the pearl forum ( darkslide if you know him, great feet), swears by his IC because it's completely adjustable.

[drummingducktape]

Is it completely adjustable? Some guy on the pearl forum ( darkslide if you know him, great feet), swears by his IC because it's completely adjustable.
well i would think that its compleatly adjustable because its one of the more advanced but i wouldnt really know

[Flamacue]

wow, 265 USD for that? surprising...




Believe me, I didn't think he'd pay that. That just goes to show when someone wants something bad enough they'll pay the money. Although had he played around with the footboard height in the shop, it might have been a different story. Luckily, he was put off the new pedals. And you know, he offered me £200 yesterday and I turned him down because I felt bad about taking that much. That would have been $354!:amaze:

[Btrutt87]

wow that kid gone done got himself ripped off mmhmmm

[drummingducktape]

wow that kid gone done got himself ripped off mmhmmm
well if he liked it more than a different pedal then it really wasnt he would have paid more for a new one and that was the only one he liked... i dont blam him.... if i relaly liked it i would take it for the same amount as a new pedal

[Flamacue]

I bid ( well my nephew did, he's more of a pro at ebay than me plus he has a good rating as a buyer) on this and I'm currently the highest bidder. I tried £150 but it was outbid and had to go to 170. Plus postage of £10 = £180. Way I see it, if I win, it's only really costing me £30 for an Iron Cobra. Bargain!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tama-iron-cobra-double-pedal-not-DW_W0QQitemZ7382960663QQcategoryZ38097QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

[puppet.master]

DUDE sell it on ebay as something vintage its prolly worth a hell of alot its looks ancient

[White]

thats an oldie lol, back when most doubles were actually two pedals lol, not just one with to boards haha

[nonsense!]

wow that kid gone done got himself ripped off mmhmmm

the right feel on your pedals is priceless.

[osiecki]

2 kilograms

[Josiah]

Wow $265 for that..


Man, that's totally taking advantage of the kid letting him pay that. I couldn't honestly gouge a student that bad.

[drummer172]

Wow $265 for that..


Man, that's totally taking advantage of the kid letting him pay that. I couldn't honestly gouge a student that bad.
Thats what I thought when I saw that.

[Flamacue]

Well he's an ex student now as he's done grade 8, is gigging with a band, and has loads of exams and stuff coming up. I already turned down his £200 offer, then I asked him again today if he still wanted it and he said yep immediately. I already tried to talk him out of it and that he should try the new pedals again but he wasn't interested. So since it's not his money but his parents who were happy to pay, and since he really wanted it, I decided to put aside any feelings of guilt and just go for it, because that would put me so close to getting an IC at hardly any cost to me. If he's happy, there's no problem.

[I'd Hit it]

ya man a little more money in the pocket never hurt anybody... I say nice profit

[aznriceball]

you can easily get DW 5002s for around 180 on ebay every few days.

[Josiah]

ya man a little more money in the pocket never hurt anybody... I say nice profit

Yea right....

Getting some kid to pay $300 for a pedal that's a decade+ old. Justifiying it because "it's his parent's money". What a joke. The $100 was a nice profit off a piece of crap pedal.

$300 is just out right stealing.


Ripping people off is ripping people off. The fact it's a student, or now former student just makes it worse. Most teachers cut their students discounts. Not **** em up the ***, or the parents.

What a pathetic display of greed and unprofessionalism.

Flamecue just made a thread who's sole intent was to make fun of somebody else on another forum, and then on this one he's talking about ripping the **** outta some kid (or his parents).

It wasn't an honest sale, the kid got totally ripped off. Even worse, by a former instructor.

[Flamacue]

lmao. It's not a ripoff to him, it's his choice, it's what he wanted. I put all the facts to him including reasons why I think he should reconsider, while his parents read what I was saying to him. It's actually not a piece of crap pedal either, even jim once said it's a solid piece of kit or something to that effect.

As far as making fun of someone else on a forum, lol, lighten up buddy. As you can see, members of this forum find it rather amusing.

[aznriceball]

so uh..back to the question. why'd u rip him off?

[Flamacue]

so uh..back to the question. why'd u rip him off?

He hasn't paid me yet. He still has time to change his mind if he wants. He has borrowed my pedal for about 6 months free of charge as well as various other cymbals I lent him so I've done him some nice favours anyway at no cost. If you think giving him free choice to buy or not, turning his offer of £200 down, and arming him with some information as to why he shouldn't buy it is ripping him off, then sue me.

[Double Bass Jim]

I will say 300 bucks is amazingly steep.

[Flamacue]

I would have to agree. I was stunned when he made me the offer. But I turned him down a few times. In the end, it came down to me thinking, well it would be really nice to have a second hand IC, he's offering the money that would buy most of that so, why not. Someone on another forum that inspired me to sell it said this, after I had said maybe I should have taken the offer:

"Maybe......

I think he would be paying well over the odds for it, but, it was an offer and if it is the pedal of his eye, what price happiness? But you have to live with it, as of course, do his parents.

Quandry my friend, quandry."

After that I thought sod it, if he still wants it at the price, I'm selling it. He had the choice to buy it or not, and likewise, I had the choice to sell it at my price or not sell it at all. After all, he came to me about it not the other way around. And it was him that initially said he'll pay whatever I need for it.

[Double Bass Jim]

At the end of the day it's him handing the cash over.

[Flamacue]

At the end of the day it's him handing the cash over.

*ding* We have a winner! :chug:

[Futuro]

Man that is dissapointing, Give him 200 bucks back.

[Flamacue]

I can't give back what I haven't been given yet. He's happy as a pig in **** about this pedal, plus he's just got a new set of A custom crashes, hihat and ping ride and new joey jordinson snare that he's just been bought so he's not exactly been hard done by. Like I said, he's borrowed good cymbals and my pedal for the last few months, so paying over the odds for this pedal is not really such a big deal considering I've been generous anyway and the fact that HE REALLY WANTS IT. If you lot think I'm changing my mind, lol, forget it. The only time that'll happen is if he changes his mind.

[Der Meister]

Don't forget, English drum pedals are usually about $70 more expensive when customs tax blah blah is added so take that off the price when going from £ to $.

[Josiah]

Is not the student a reflection of the teacher?

P.S. for those interested I looked it up, the pedal in question is from 1883/84.

[derryk]

Is not the student a reflection of the teacher?

P.S. for those interested I looked it up, the pedal in question is from 1883/84.
That's a really long time.

[Flamacue]

Is not the student a reflection of the teacher?

P.S. for those interested I looked it up, the pedal in question is from 1883/84.

1883? rofl, you're only a 100 years or so out!
And wtf does student and teacher have to do with anything right now? This is to do with simply BUYING A PIECE OF HARDWARE. I just rang a drumshop, and the guy reckons an old DW5000 even over 15 years is still worth around £100 so we're not far out. And let's not forget, things are always more expensive in the UK. Even a pair of vic firth sticks costs £9 here and about £3 in the states.

[Flamacue]

Got outbid on ebay. Anyway, I rang up a shop and they just happened to have a second hand powerglide IC at a good price! :amaze: I've just put down a non refundable deposit on a 6 month old all singing and dancing IC from this place, same model as this, the HP900PTW,

http://www.drumshack.co.uk/product.asp?numPageStartPosition=1&P_ID=641&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&strSearchCriteria=&PT_ID=289

and pick it up thursday hopefully. £179 ( $319 ). New price would have been £299 ($534 ).

[DxRocker]

People, people, people....

Flam flat out told the kid: "look around, there is much better new stuff out there today for the same price you are offering me.. this is NOT a good buy".

The kid said: "I don't care, i'll give you 200£ because I want it"

Flam replied: "No you will not, that is far to much"

So, how does this all fit into "ripping" that kid off? Flam didn't even set the price, in fact, he told the kid not to buy that pedal and look for something newer and better. As far as I am concerned, the kid should have looked up the pedal and what it is worth before giving offers to flam about how much he would pay him. If it is a rippoff, then the kid ripped off himself... End of discussion.

And also:

"A certain item is worth the price that people are willing to pay for it"

That's basic economics.

[Flamacue]

Well said DxRocker :thumb: